1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's Josh and Chuck your friends, and we 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: are here to tell you about our upcoming book that's 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: coming out this fall, the first ever Stuff you Should 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Know book, Chuck. That's right. What's the cool, super cool 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: title we came up with. It's Stuff you Should Know colon, 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: an incomplete compendium of mostly interesting things. That's right, and 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: it's coming along so great. 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Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: a production of My Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Yeah, hey, 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh and there's Chuck 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: and we are Macha Macha man. We are some Macha man. 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: And Jerry's out there too. That's very cute. You mean's 22 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: um iTunes? I guess on her phone is stuck on 23 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: Macho Man like anytime she plugs it in the car, 24 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: that's what comes up. I guess the deal with that? 25 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: What like that? At the same first song starts off 26 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: and it varies. It's annoying. I don't know what it is, 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: but that's the way it is. Because Tim Cook said so. 28 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: By the way, if I may here at the beginning, 29 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: I joined Instagram finally because of that Gwyneth Paltrow. Thank 30 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: what or is this totally unrelated to machaly related? Okay, well, welcome. 31 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: Do you thought I joined Instagram because of Gwyneth Paltrow. 32 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: I thought that this was a segue into the Macha episod. No. 33 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: I just finally got on Instagram because I loathe Facebook. 34 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: And the only thing I will do on Facebook now 35 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: is I do not pass go. I go straight to 36 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: movie Crush and movie Crushers, which is a great community 37 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: of really awesome people. Um it's a little wonderful corner 38 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: of Facebook that's not snarky and fun and supportive and 39 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 1: movie talk mostly. But I finally got on Instagram because 40 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: everyone was like, dude, you just get on Instagram because 41 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: it's not like that, even though Facebook on Instagram. Um, 42 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: and so I did. So if you want to follow me, 43 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: you can find me at Chuck the Podcaster. I thought 44 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: there was That was a pregnant pause. Check. I'm I'm 45 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: gonna say mine too. I'm at josh um Clark. Yeah, 46 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: it's you know, I'm I'm posting a few personal pictures. 47 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: I'm posting some movie crush stuff and these shirtless ones. 48 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: Not yet, I'm posting some you know, I've always kind 49 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: of considered myself an amateur photographers with just things I 50 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: find beautiful or funny or fun or interesting. U um, 51 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: not a ton of stuff, but you know, I'm there now. 52 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: It sounds like you've got it all figured out, Chuck. 53 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: How many followers do you have? How many do I 54 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: need to beat? I think I'm at about I think twenty. 55 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: You'll make it today. I'll never make it there, you 56 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: will to. I think I'm at about that, and it's 57 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: kind of good little crew going. Um, what kind of 58 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: stuff I need to follow? Better? Uh? Post some momo pictures? Um? 59 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: What else do I postmo pictures? Pictures of me with food, um, pictures, 60 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, you know, the usual Instagram stuff. 61 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: I don't know how personal to get as as much 62 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: as you want to be. I mean, if you do 63 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: like confessional videos where you're crying, it might freak people 64 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: out a little bit. Oh can you do video? Oh yeah? Okay, 65 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: Well you are new, aren't you. I think I might 66 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: just keep it very basic and just do the old. 67 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: Here's a picture, okay, okay. I predict that that will 68 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: change eventually, you think, cut to me crying. I'm gonna 69 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: go follow you right now. I'm at seven point nine 70 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: by the way. Oh wow, chuck the podcast or go ahead. 71 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: I haven't announced it yet, so don't make fun of 72 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: my numbers. I'm following. You probably got no more than 73 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: a couple of hundred. Uh you've got that's pretty good. 74 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: Not bad pre announcement. Well, yes, that is not bad 75 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: at all. Wow. So the reason I thought let me 76 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: do this, okay, because I have some explaining to do. 77 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: The reason I thought you were talking about Gwyneth Paltrow 78 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: is because Gwyneth Paltrow is the person that the current 79 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: um deep and abiding love for all things macha that 80 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: a mayor has Gwyneth Paltrow is the person that is 81 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: chalked up. Is kicking that off back in two thousand fifteen, 82 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: did you know that? Yeah, they lay it at her feet. 83 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: Is that fair because I feel it's not at all fair. Yeah. 84 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: I feel like the mucha um sort of hipster macha 85 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: boom happened before that. But I think what they're saying 86 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: is like she popularized it and it was no longer 87 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: just relegated to hipsters because you know, hipsters are so rare. 88 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: They're rare creatures and they don't have much much reach 89 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: in the popular culture. It takes a Gwyneth Paltrow to 90 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: really spread an idea these days, Thank God for her. 91 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: But there was a post that she made back in 92 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen that says that um oh, chilot 93 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: chill late h A l A I T Yeah, chill 94 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: late Macho Latte was a dreamy new discovery on Instagram 95 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: and that apparently made people go start drinking macha because 96 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: she discovered in an eleventh century tee powder. That's right. 97 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: Good for her. I'm glad we're doing this because first 98 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: of all, I love macha. Yeah, I do too, and 99 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: I think I got into it. I've fallen out of it, 100 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: but this made me buy some more that I bought 101 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: online as being shipped now as we speak. Oh yeah, 102 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: so I got out of it a little for a 103 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: little while. I guess maybe because I can't go to 104 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: my little Japanese store and get it in person. But um, 105 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: what kicked off my love of Macha was my friend 106 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: p J and Los Angeles. So it was a while ago, 107 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: and then I was reminded from the uh watching Top 108 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: Chef the other night they did. They had a you 109 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: know how much I love that show. They had a 110 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: a challenge where it was they had to prepare a 111 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: traditional Japanese kaiseki, which is a progressive taste, not not 112 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: quite a tasting, men you, but a progressive dinner, formal dinner, 113 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: which is very much reminded me of the Macha formal 114 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: tea ceremony, right, which we'll talk about, But I just 115 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: want to say that I think it would be deliciously 116 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: ironic if you learned about Macha from PJ, and PJ 117 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: learned about it from Gwyneth Paltrow's Instagram. This is way 118 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: pre two thousand fifteen, So, um, what about Macha everything, Chuck, 119 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: what about Macha kickcats? Are they your favorite kickcat flavor? 120 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: Did not care for those? Uh? I had had them? Yeah, 121 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: did not like him at all. Do you have Have 122 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: you had like a good macha latte from Starbucks? Have 123 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: not had a match a latte? It's pretty good. I 124 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: think it's just like macha tea. So you like the 125 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: traditional macha powder and hot water stirred together, there's your tea. Yeah, great, 126 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: I mean that's the that's the purest approach there is. 127 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: And that's like what you said, people have been drinking 128 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: that since like the eleventh century. Yeah, or added to 129 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: um like it just a regular steeped green tea might 130 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: add a little dash of macha, or to a smoothie, 131 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: which I had a smoothe almost every morning. Yes, okay, 132 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of different ways that you can 133 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: enjoy macha. And I think, ye know, we're about to 134 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: I think we should also say that we're not invested 135 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: in any kind of macha outfit or anything like that, 136 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: because we're talking it up a bit like we are, 137 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: like we're in the midst of a pumping up scheme 138 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: or something like that. We're just fans, right, match is 139 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 1: just great. So um, we should say, like you're saying, 140 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: macha is t but it's t empowdered form, and it's 141 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: specifically a very um distinct type of tea grown in 142 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: a very distinct way and processed in a distinct way, 143 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: and that it's really unlike any other kind of tea, 144 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: so much so that it's a really weird thing if 145 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: you think about it. But then it's an also a 146 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: very delightful and calming, soothing thing to to learn about. 147 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: Two I found yeah and big thanks to how stuff 148 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: Works dot com, Maurice he hunt uh, the American Specialty 149 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: t Alliance and then this great article on a good 150 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: and proper from Emily Holmes. Help help me out for 151 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: this one. But yeah, so the macha is the these 152 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: tea leaves that have been steamed then dried, and then 153 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: you get those stems out and you want, yeah, the 154 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: seeds now, stems and seeds, that's the rule. You don't 155 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: want any any swag tea. So you get that stuff 156 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: out of there, and then you grind that stuff into 157 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: a fine powder. And we'll talk about the different places 158 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: where it's grown, but and then about the history. But 159 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: what you end up with is this ideally very bright 160 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: bright chlorophyll green powder almost neon green. Yeah, if it's 161 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, the good stuff, right, Yeah, the greener the 162 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: the greener, the brighter that the almost day glory, it 163 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: is usually the better the actual macha is. And we'll 164 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: see exactly why. But somewhere along the way about the 165 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: eleventh century, UM or the twelfth century, I guess it 166 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: would be UM. I think back in the Japanese imported 167 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: this idea from the Chinese, and we it's weird to 168 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: think like there was a point in time where they're like, Okay, 169 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna start powdering teeth from this process, and then 170 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: this will be go on to become macha. Were up 171 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: to that. Nobody made tea like that. They made tea 172 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: like you would think they grew tea. They kind of 173 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: packed it into cakes or bricks, and they sold it 174 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: like that, and you would steep it and you would 175 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: drink the liquor is what they call it, um, and 176 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: you would remove the tea leaves. That's not at all 177 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: what matches. Matches straight up ground powdered tea leaves, and 178 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: you're drinking the tea itself, not like steep tea. That's 179 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: that's come out of the tea and you're throwing the 180 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: tea leaves away. You're drinking the whole kitten caboodle, as 181 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: they say Japan, which is why there are so many 182 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: great health benefits which we'll get to. Uh. Yeah, there 183 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: was a well, first of all, it's in Japanese mott 184 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: means powdered and cha means tea, so being bad a 185 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: boom macha powdered tea. But there was a zen monk 186 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: name uh s I, I believe, so okay, who brought 187 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: these tea seeds after going on a trip to China. 188 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: And I think this is the person who in started 189 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: what I say, sorry, it was seven years uh started 190 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: cultivating this stuff and then had a pupil. And this 191 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: this stuff was very popular with the monks because they 192 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: could get caffeine loaded and stay up all night and pray. 193 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: But I had a pupil name Mioi, who was a 194 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: Buddhist monk there in the mountains northwest of Kyoto. And 195 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: I think this is the person that really took this 196 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: cultivation seriously and started to sort of make it a 197 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: larger scale operation. Yeah. Um, the Buddhist temple that Mioe 198 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: lived at I think was in charge of it's called 199 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: kozon g on the Tonga No Mountain. I checked with 200 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: you me. I was like, do you say both those? 201 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: And she said yeah, And I practiced and it's not 202 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: coming out right, But Taga No Mountain m outside of 203 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: Kyoto and um mioe just so happened where where he lived, 204 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: where he started planting this tea had these incredible, like 205 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: um natural conditions that just so happened to come together 206 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: that that produced exactly the kind of tea leaf that 207 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: you would want for macha. But it's it was just 208 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: a basically a freak of nature that it happened that way. Yeah, 209 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: He's like, you know, we got this great soil, super 210 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: fertile um, we have this morning dew that comes in 211 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: because of the river nearby, and that that really rest 212 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: on those tee eaves and just makes it all pop 213 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: with chlorophyll. And it became more popular. And as it 214 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: became more popular, it was the third show gun of 215 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: the Ashikaga Shogunate, and his name was Ashikaga Yoshi. Meet 216 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: Sue Beautiful. I love Japanese. Well it's wonderful, isn't it. Yeah, 217 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: there's something about it. It just appeals to my eyeballs, 218 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: and it's appeals to my tongue when I can manage 219 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: to get it out of my mouth correctly. There's just 220 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: something about it. I really like it. But um, he's 221 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: the one that said, all right, we gotta get more 222 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: of this stuff and fast because people love this macha. 223 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: So uh, let's get it going here in the Uji 224 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: era era area right outside of Kyoto. So it was 225 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 1: originally just on Tokenah Mountain and then it was expanded 226 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: to a wider area and it was there when they 227 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: expanded to Uji, and Uji is now like the place 228 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: where you get the world's greatest ma chu, they decided. 229 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: But at first the tea that they were starting to 230 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: produce an Uji when they first expanded it. Um, but 231 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: they were like, this is this is not nearly as 232 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: good as as the stuff that they're making over there 233 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: on Taga Mountain right um And they could not figure 234 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: out why. And then they went back and they looked 235 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: and they realized that on the mountain there was a 236 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: lot of forests that was naturally shading these tea bushes, 237 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: and that that was the big difference. Than they started 238 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: to study it more and more and more, and they 239 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: realized that they could kind of mimic this forest shading it, 240 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: and that if they did this at at certain amounts 241 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: or certain certain times during the growing season, um, they 242 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: could actually force the tea to produce exactly the kind 243 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: of leaves that they would want to um to turn 244 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: into macha because it takes a very specific kind of 245 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: um growth pattern and it's just so beautiful and zen 246 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: especially because these were zen monks who were figuring this out. 247 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: But it's just like this like delicately manipulating the plant 248 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: to get it to do what you want so you 249 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: can get the most remarkable leaves to use for macha. 250 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: I just find it seriously, Like when I was researching 251 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: this and studying this, I was just so much just 252 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: it was just calm and like really soothing, you know. Yeah. 253 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: I don't think we said with the name of it, 254 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: but it's called tincha before it becomes much much as 255 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: that final ground up powder. Yeah, everything leading up to 256 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: that is is like you said, tencha. So technically you 257 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: don't grow macha. So we'll talk about exactly how it's 258 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: cultivated later, but the upshot of it is that by 259 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: noticing that the forest around these um. These plants shaded them, 260 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: they figured out how to simulate it by building structures 261 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: around them, and what they've come up with finally, in 262 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: Uji is what you would call ceremonial grade pacha. Yeah, 263 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: and you know what, I looked that up and saw 264 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: a couple of things. I saw that ceremonial grade UM 265 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: was used to be reserved for royalty, and that it's 266 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: the you know, kind of the best stuff out there 267 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: as opposed to culinary grade, which you cook with. But 268 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: then I also saw other places that said that's sort 269 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: of a tag you can't even trust anymore, that's sort 270 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: of thrown on there for Americans. So I don't really 271 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: know what to believe. I do know that UM, like 272 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: a high quality Japanese macha, is not cheap, so that's 273 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: that can always be a decent guide if you're online 274 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: trying to buy some. If you see something super cheap, 275 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: it's probably not great. But there are four regions in 276 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: Japan where it's produced Uji, uh Fukuoka, Nishio, and Shizuoka, 277 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: and Uji is the most renowned. Obviously. The article from 278 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: Eater that I saw said it's sort of like seeing 279 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: Bordeaux on a wine label the net. The best would 280 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: be uh Fukuoka, which is on the island of Kyushu, 281 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: and they're sort of newer in the last like ten 282 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: to twenty years, but apparently are putting out some really 283 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: really good stuff. Uh Nicio is the largest by volume 284 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: of macha uh and they're sort of the more mass 285 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: market style and if you get that in the US, 286 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: it's not going to be very good apparently. And then 287 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: the last one is the Shizuoka, and they're the largest 288 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: producer of all green tea by volume, and it's not 289 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: very well regarded as like really good macha. So go 290 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: for that Uji or go for the Fukuoka if you 291 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: want the good stuff. Um So, I say we take 292 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: a break and then we'll come back and talk about 293 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: maybe the tea ceremony. How about that? Yes, let's take 294 00:17:47,240 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: a break. Okay, okay, chuck. So apparently ceremonial grade is 295 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: totally made up. But if you were going to I 296 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: don't think it's necessarily true. But I could Okay, I 297 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: could see people abusing that. How about that? Now I 298 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: could see non non Japanese retailers abusing that. How that? So? 299 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: Um But if you went to a tea ceremony um, 300 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: that would if if there is such a thing as 301 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: ceremonial grade, that probably would be the kind of tea 302 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: that they would serve you, and ceremonial grade tea, or 303 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: I should say that the tea ceremony um is called 304 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: the Chotto, which means the way of tea, because again 305 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: chaw means tea and dough means way, So this is 306 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: like the way of tea. And just the name of it, 307 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: of the tea ceremony being called that kind of gets 308 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 1: you this idea that there's like a zen vibe to it. 309 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: And their most decidedly is oh yeah, like if you 310 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: just watch one of these, it's just super calming. Everything. 311 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: It's sort of like that formal meal I was talking about. 312 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: Everything is just very exact and purposeful. Um, yeah, those 313 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: are the two words. Exact and purposeful is what it's 314 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: all about. You're not You're not just throwing tea around. 315 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: I mean everything from the folding of the napkin to 316 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: how you sit, it's all just very much planned out, 317 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: and uh, it's just super relaxing to be a part of. 318 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: I think it really is. I was talking to you 319 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: me about it because she she was trained in it 320 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: um and she said, it's super stressful while you're learning 321 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: because every single step in, every single hand movement, every 322 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: sound that the that you make, like the the whisk 323 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: clinking up against the bowl, um, all those things are 324 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: meant to to be a certain way, and so much 325 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: so that there's like different schools that do the the 326 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: ceremony slightly differently. But the ultimate point of the whole 327 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 1: thing is that it's meant to draw you into the moment. 328 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: It's meant to be a really meditative experience, not just 329 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: for you, the person making tea, but the person who's 330 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: being served tea. And it's it's um it is when 331 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: like you were saying, when you watch one of these 332 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: things there there's plenty of them on YouTube, it's real quiet, 333 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: really silent, and it's really meditative, even just to watch 334 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: a video of. But it's it's cool the idea that 335 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: there's this whole process planned out and that it's meant 336 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: to make you observe the moment. It also really shows 337 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: you how um this this whole thing has its roots 338 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: and Zen Buddhism, green tea does or macha. Yeah, even 339 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: the white lady in San Francisco, and that video you 340 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: sent me was relaxing. It was. But then did you 341 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: see the with the French one too, And that was 342 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: just like I was like in my chair drooling while 343 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: that one was going on because it was just totally quiet. 344 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: But when you watch a tea ceremony, you see that 345 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: that there's a specific way that you're supposed to to 346 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: um produce to make green tea, like the way that 347 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: you drink it macha um where it's just powder and 348 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: hot water mixed together and then there's your tea. But 349 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: then so you're supposed to use two scoops. If you've 350 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: ever seen like one of those little bamboo hook skewer 351 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: kind of things, it's called a cho shooka yeah, chuku 352 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: okay um. Those are equal to about a third of 353 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: a teaspoon, and you want two of those, so roughly 354 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: half a teaspoon if you don't have one of the 355 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,239 Speaker 1: bamboo scoops for green tea. And then um, you put 356 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: in a little bit of water um and you stir 357 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: it together with the bamboo whisk until a froth forms 358 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: and then there you go. You've got your your macha prepared. 359 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: The traditional way, and you're supposed to drink in about 360 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: three SIPs from what I understand. Yeah, and it's um. 361 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: You know, you can get more detailed than that if 362 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: you want to. If you want to get out a 363 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: strainer to keep it from lumping up, you can do that. Um, 364 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: the water should be warm. You don't want to just 365 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: throw boiling water in there. Apparently anything over eighty degrees 366 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: will scorch it, and that will increase the bitterness. Unless 367 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, you really like a bitter macha. I 368 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: guess that could be a a call you could make. 369 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: But there's a fine line. I think bitterness is a 370 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: part of macha to a certain degree, but it's not. 371 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: It shouldn't be the overriding characteristic. No, No, it's meant 372 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: to be balanced out by a sweetness because I mean macha. 373 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: It's like, if you've had tea but you've never had macha, 374 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: you you can't guess what macha tastes like just by 375 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: having had any other kind of tea before. It's got 376 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: its own flavor for sure. Yeah, I mean, green tea 377 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: will give give you a hint, like, if you really 378 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: like green tea, you'll probably like macha. But it's still 379 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: not quite the same thing. No, because the other thing 380 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: about macha too is it foams when you whisk it, 381 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: which um indicates that's got a mouth feel to it 382 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: that tea doesn't have. Like green tea is like tea. 383 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: The consistency of tea macha is almost like um creamy. Yeah, 384 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: it has a creamy ins to it, even though it's 385 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,239 Speaker 1: just powdered tea. There's no cream in it, but it 386 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: has a creamy consistency to it too. It's basically magic 387 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: green potion from japan Land. Yeah, and it's differentiates. There's 388 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: another type of tea called hoji cha, which is um 389 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: reddish brown, and they get that from smoking it, So yeah, 390 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: it's a It has sort of a earthy, smoky aroma. 391 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: They both have that umami, those umami undertones um. But 392 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: the hoji chaw is not gonna be bitter because that 393 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: roasting process. I think I said smoking they actually roasted 394 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: um makes a little different. And I think hogi cha 395 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: doesn't have nearly as much caffeine as macha, much as 396 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: about three point two grams per grams of caffeine. It's 397 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: a lot of caffeine and hogias point one three if 398 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: that tells you anything, Holy cow, And it's three point 399 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: to wow. And again that's because you're drinking. You're drinking 400 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: the tea leaf itself, not just the liquor of the tea. Yeah. 401 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: But and I found this to be true. It's it's 402 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: not a it's not a super jittery caffeine. You know, 403 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: we'll talk about exactly why, but no, it's it's world 404 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: renowned because it's not a jittery caffeine feeling, even though 405 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: there's so much caffeine. It has what's called like an 406 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: alert um calmness or a calm wakefulness, something like that, 407 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: where it's like you're not jittery, but you're kind of 408 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: in the zone. Is how a lot of Westerners describe it. Yeah, 409 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: Like the samurai drank it for a reason because they 410 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: could they could meditate, but also know when someone was 411 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: fifty ft behind them with a sword, right, you know, right, yeah, exactly, 412 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: because they would sprout eyes in the back of their heads. Right. 413 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: The other thing, too, is I'm I don't want us 414 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: to make this sound exotic or unattainable, like people have 415 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: been drinking macha for a thousand years, more than a 416 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,959 Speaker 1: thousand years now, or about a thousand years um. And 417 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: it's it's like it's powdered tea mixed with hot water 418 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: and then you drink it and it's wonderful. That's it. Like, 419 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: you don't have to have the ceremony. No, you don't 420 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: have to. There's a purpose to the ceremonies to take 421 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,239 Speaker 1: time out from your busy life. But if you just 422 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: want some good macha, buy some good macha, get a 423 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: half of a table or a half of a teaspoon, 424 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: some warm water, stir it together and enjoy your matcha. 425 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be some You don't have to 426 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: be pretentious about it. No one does. And let's not 427 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: say the Japanese are pretentious about it, but just talking 428 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: about it like this can come off as pretentious, even 429 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: though it's not meant to be that way at all. 430 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: And I don't want to like scare anybody off or 431 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: make it sound like it's unattainable. It's super attainable, and 432 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: it's it's it's really beneficial to which is why I'm saying, 433 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 1: go try it if you haven't sure. I think it's 434 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: the same um sort of inaccessibility that some people might 435 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: feel about wine and a wine tasting can be intimidating 436 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: for people, or you know, if you go to a 437 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 1: place that has the pour over coffee and you know, 438 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: there are lots of different ways to skin the cat 439 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: and you can. You can, certainly, I mean, I think 440 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow showed us that it was accessible right a 441 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: dreamy new discovery. She gooped it up for everyone. Yeah. 442 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: Uh and by the way, you said that to drink 443 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: it in the three slurbs. Apparently that last one is 444 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: when you turn that bowl fully up in sort of 445 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 1: the point of that is you're you're sort of in 446 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: that bowl with the t everything else is blocked out 447 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: around you because it's completely held up to your face. 448 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: Just savor that last that gulp and that last bit 449 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: of sereneness before you know, you get on Facebook and 450 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: talking about that's the That's that we didn't say. You're 451 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: supposed to traditionally drink it out of a t bowl 452 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: called called the chawan. And that's another thing too, Like 453 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: it's nothing to go to your local Japanese store and 454 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: say do you have stuff I need for macha and 455 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: they will say, here's the bamboo whisk, here's the bamboos 456 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: coop here's your T bowl, give us twelve dollars please. 457 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,479 Speaker 1: It's not hard to get into it all, even in 458 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: the traditional ceremonial way. But it's, like you said, drinking 459 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: it out of that T bowl is it's a different 460 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: experience than just drinking out out of a mug, you know, 461 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: And it's meant to be that way. And there's you know, 462 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: you don't have to be pretentious about it, but there's 463 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: also something he said for honoring the tradition in whatever 464 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: way you feel comfortable doing. Yeah, because I mean, I 465 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: was reading about this um this morning drinking coffee and 466 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, Macha and the experience of mant is basically 467 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: the opposite of coffee. Yeah, there's not It's not meant 468 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: to be like go go, go, let's go, let's get 469 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: the day started, right exactly. It's meant to be like, 470 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,239 Speaker 1: let's take some time out of that day and just 471 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: like reflect and chill out for a minute, but get 472 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: a little buzz going. Yeah exactly, you can have it all. 473 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: So one we kind of like just glanced over the 474 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: fact that like Macha has grown in a really unusual way. 475 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: I feel like we should talk about that a little bit. 476 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: You want to yes okay so um. When they figured 477 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: out that there was a uh that the forest shading 478 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: the tea bushes were doing something special to it. When 479 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: they started growing at an Uji and the macha they produced, 480 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: or the tencha I should say, um wasn't nearly as good. Um, 481 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: they started really studying what was going on, and they 482 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: figured out that if you deprive the tea of the 483 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: tea bush of light at certain times and in certain amounts, 484 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: the tea bush will respond by producing exactly the kind 485 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: of leaves that you want to turn into macha. Eventually, 486 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: that's right, you're affecting the light cycle. Uh. And you 487 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: start this in about mid April. Then they figured out 488 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: what you do is you just build a little covering, 489 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: a little hut over these bushes, and you can apply straw, 490 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: more or less straw to allow more or less light 491 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: in to the bush. And around mid April you cut 492 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: that light down by about sixty to sevent and then 493 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: I think ten or twelve days after that you cut 494 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: it down almost a darkness to And that's sort of 495 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: where you get your good money chlorophyll and macha going on, right, 496 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: And so I mean, what's neat though, is like, we 497 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: can explain this now, but these guys figured this out centuries, 498 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: almost a thousand years ago, how to do this. But 499 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: now we understand that two things that give macha it's 500 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: sweet taste and it's bitter taste, or theonine and catkins. 501 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: There are two different compounds that are found in green 502 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: tea and macha um and theonine gives it its sweet flavor. 503 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: Catakians give it it's bitter flavor, and that through photosynthesis, 504 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: theonins become catkins. So if you can keep the plant 505 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: from photosynthesizing as much, there's fewer theonins that are going 506 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: to be turned into the bitter catkins. So that's one 507 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: reason you're depriving it of light. It's a pretty big step. 508 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: The other step, Chuck, is that they figured out that 509 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: chlorophyll is related to the amount of theenins. I don't 510 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: know if one produces the other or what, but they're 511 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: they're related to one another. So the more chlorophyll there is, 512 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: the more theenans are going to be. Hence the sweeter 513 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: the match is going to be. And that if you 514 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: deprive the tea bush of light, it's going to produce 515 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: more chlorophyll. To try to carry out photosynthesis. So not 516 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: only does it's it's color get greener, um, it produces 517 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: more theenans as a result. So by depriving it of 518 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: light at certain times and then using the tea bush, 519 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: that's um that comes out of like winter and has 520 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: like a bunch of nutrients packed down in its roots 521 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: and it's now sharing them with the the young buds um. 522 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: And that's what you harvest is the first leaves of spring. 523 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: That's how you get the tension that will turn into 524 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: the best kind of macha. Yeah, and you also get 525 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: those good the leaves get wider, you get those broad 526 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: leaves because they're seeking out the light they're not getting. 527 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: It's actually very cruel. I thought about that too. I 528 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: was like, the Japanese know how to torture some plants. 529 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: Between this and bonds eye, you know, yeah, it reminded 530 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: me of the marijuana podcast to the cultivation one, because 531 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: that's um. It's another plant that you know, you can 532 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: just throw a seed in the ground and grow tea 533 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: or grow marijuana and not worry about it because it's 534 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: just a plant. But if you alter the light cycles, Uh, 535 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: they both do something extraordinary. In the case of marijuana. 536 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: I believe altering the light cycles is what causes it 537 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: to bud at specific times. And it's kind of really 538 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: similar with the macha. It's kind of the same process. 539 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: So with marijuana, is it kind of like you're you're 540 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: making it think like the days are getting shorter and 541 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: so it needs to start budding or they think so longer. Okay, 542 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: I got to say, you're artificially manipulating what would naturally 543 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: play out over probably a longer period of time. Is 544 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: my is my guess grow marijuana. But I'm just kidding, right, 545 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: You're like there was a high times at my dentists. 546 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: That's ababily about right. Um. So, yeah, so they figured 547 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: all this out, like to do this with tea, and 548 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: they started out by by adding like little bamboo or 549 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: reed covers to deprive some light, and then they would 550 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: put straw mats over that. Now they use aluminum structures 551 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,239 Speaker 1: around the bushes, and then they use just kind of 552 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: that black cheesecloth fabric that you see to like, um, 553 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: sometimes people put it down to keep weeds from growing 554 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: up in the right exactly, that's exactly what it's called. 555 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: Now they use that to cover up the the tea bushes. 556 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: They've got it down kind of pat but it's remarkably 557 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: similar to the same techniques they've been using since the century. Yeah, 558 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they made the switch to aluminum 559 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: because they would have to take these wooden frames out 560 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: and care for them in the off season, and um, 561 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: I think the same holds true with the straw. I'm 562 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: sure there are probably some traditionalists that are doing it 563 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: in the old way, but yeah, aluminum in landscape fabric 564 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: is sort of the modern version. Have you ever smelled 565 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: musty straw? It's not a good smell. M M. I 566 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: believe I've been on a hay Rider two. Is that 567 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: what you mean? Yes? Yeah, basically, but when you make 568 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: it something out of straw, like a something to cover 569 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: over shrubs with or whatever you should be out in 570 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: the rain, roll it back up, Oh yeah, yeah, it's 571 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: not a good smell when you unroll it again. Yeah. Like, 572 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: if you have a straw hat that falls in a 573 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: body of water, it's never gonna be the same again. 574 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: Has that happened to you, Tom Sawyer? Yeah? Emily, I 575 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: mean Emily has. He's she's a gardener, so she has 576 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: these huge straw hats okay, and if they get wet, 577 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: they get kind of stinky. You're right, Um, So you 578 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: want to take another break and then we'll talk about 579 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: health benefits of macha. Okay, We're going to do that everybody, 580 00:33:49,680 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: and we'll be right back. So I think we should 581 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: say chuck before we get before we get into the 582 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: health benefits. Um. When when tencha is produced, apparently all 583 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: of it is brought to one market in Kyoto. Um. 584 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: And Kyoto is like one of the greatest cities on 585 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: the entire planet. And it's just perfect that they have. 586 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 1: The macho market is in Kyoto, and people go there 587 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: and say, I really like this leaf, and I'm going 588 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: to buy your entire stock. Yeah, they have an auction. 589 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: It's amazing that they do this this way. They have 590 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: an auction. Uh. I think once a year at the 591 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: Kyoto Tea market, which opened in seventy four. And I'm 592 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: getting all my centuries wrong, but this was four and uh. 593 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: Like you said, these wholesalers and vendors they come in 594 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: and they do blind tastings, which is really cool. So 595 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: you can't say, like, you know, you're just not acquainted 596 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: with the brand before you taste it. Because every year 597 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: is going to be a little different, even if you're 598 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: trying to produce a consistent product here over year. You know, 599 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: every year brings a little different thing, just like the 600 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: wine business. So they go in there, they blind taste 601 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: the stuff and they're looking for kind of uh, you know, 602 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: you end up mixing these things together to get your 603 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: matcha at the end you I had no idea, did you. Yeah? 604 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: I think I've heard that that it's not just one 605 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: kind of tea leaf. You want a variation for fragrance, 606 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: for flavor, and for color. And these tea masters pick 607 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: this raw attention leaf um blindly and just say, hey, 608 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 1: this is what I'm looking for and looking for this one, 609 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: and I'm looking for this one, and I'm gonna get 610 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: all three of those, and I'm gonna bid on them 611 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: at this auction and then dry it up, stone grind 612 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: that junk into good, good green powder, magical Japanese powder. Yeah, 613 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: and then blended together and there Drmancha pal. Yeah, that's 614 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: the slogan. So the reason we keep calling this magic 615 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: powder is not just because of the ceremony and like 616 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: the whole zen vibe that it has to It definitely 617 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: has all that um but it it is verging on 618 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: magical as far as the health benefits that it bestows 619 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: on humans goes. At the very least, it is very 620 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: clearly qualifies as a super food. If there is such 621 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: a thing as a super food, green tea and specifically 622 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 1: macha definitely is that. Yeah, and you talked already about 623 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: the the anine a little bit. Um. They've been using 624 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: this in Japan and China for a stress remedy for thousands, 625 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: literally thousands of years. They say that it can help 626 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: with aging, um, with memory and recall. Apparently, if you 627 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: drink uh, gentlemen, if you drink five to seven cups 628 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: of macha day, you can really reduce your chances of 629 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: prostate cancer. That's what they say. Yeah, and and um, 630 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: and all green tea is good for you, we should 631 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 1: point out, but this is just like on steroids. Yeah, 632 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: that's the thing. Like macha is green tea. But most 633 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: of the time when you drink green tea, again, you're 634 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 1: steeping green tea leaves and you're not actually ingesting the 635 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: leaves themselves with maucha powder. You are, And so you're 636 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: getting exponentially more of this stuff, including the anine, including 637 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: the catkins um, including something called uh epic gallo catekin galit, 638 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: which is um been shown to improve memory mood along 639 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: with althenin. And then one of the other things is 640 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: these cateakins are antioxidants, Chuck, which I know you're kind 641 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: of chomping at the big to give a bit of 642 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: an overview of how antioxidants how help us um combat disease. Backstory, 643 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 1: we were poking fun at each other because you sent 644 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: me a thing, a primer on antioxidants. It's like, this 645 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: is like the fifth or sixth time we've probably given 646 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: an overview of antioxidants. Right, But but out of that 647 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: back and forth, we agreed to finally do an episode 648 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: on antioxidants in aging? Right? Did we agree? I suggested it. 649 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: I just assumed that you didn't respond that you were agreeing. No, No, 650 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,959 Speaker 1: we should do that, and then we'll never talk about 651 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: it again. Right. I can't guarantee that, no, but that 652 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 1: that may be the last overview. So this may be 653 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: the last overview, how about that? Okay? Sure? So in 654 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: your body you have something that are called free radicals, 655 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: which is a type of molecule that UM have an 656 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: extra electron or missing an electron either way, they like 657 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: to go around and bind other stuff, and when they 658 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 1: do that, something called oxidation occurs in your body. Right, 659 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: an oxidation could be good UM in that like you 660 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: might have a pathogen floating around your body. These free 661 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: radicals UM, which are naturally occurring, can bind to these 662 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 1: pathogens and neutralize them, and you don't get sick from 663 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: a pathogen, so it's good. The problem is is you 664 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: can have too many free radicals in your body, and 665 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: so when you're when you're out of balance you have 666 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 1: too many free radicals, you suffer what's called oxidative stress, 667 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: where the free radicals start attacking stuff you need like lipids, fats, 668 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: like d NA, like proteins in your body, and that's 669 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: not good. So you have antioxidants in your in your body, 670 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: but if you're not producing enough antioxidants, your free radicals 671 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: can get out of balance. And it's good to do 672 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: things like drink green tea, which introduces a ton of 673 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: antioxidants to your body, and then they seek out those 674 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: free radicals, they bind with them and neutralize them. But 675 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: the thing about antioxidants is they don't lose their stability 676 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: themselves when they bind it. They just keep on keeping on. 677 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: But now they also have this free radical attached for 678 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: a ride, and everything's all good. So that's why they 679 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: think that UM antioxidants are that kind of the key 680 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: to healthy aging, because when those free radicals start attacking 681 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: your DNA, it can lead to things like tumors and cancer, 682 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: I can lead to all sorts of other problems, breakdown 683 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: of cells and tissues, UM and just general disease. They 684 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: think like that is the basis of aging, is oxidative stress, 685 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: and antioxidants can counter that. And MACHA in particular is 686 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: lousy with antioxidants like catkins. Yeah, and macha I mean 687 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: is literally good for almost every organ in your body, 688 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: and it's certainly not bad for any of them. It 689 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,760 Speaker 1: helps with your liver, I think we already mentioned the kidneys, 690 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: certainly the brain, UM and memory, and the combination of 691 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: that alfy anne and caffeine supposedly actually helps you multitask 692 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,760 Speaker 1: and like to go back and forth between tasks more easily. 693 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: So uh, like we mentioned earlier, you're alert, but you're 694 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: still calm. It's it is a bit of a miracle. 695 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: Powder it is because that althening can cross the blood 696 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: brain barrier. So it goes right to your brain and 697 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: starts pushing it around like do this, do that. But 698 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: it works synergistically with caffeine and that it also releases GABBA, 699 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: which is a calming um I guess inhibitory molecule. I'm 700 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 1: not sure it works together with with um with caffeine, 701 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: so that like you were saying, like you have all 702 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 1: of the all of the focus, but none of the jitters. 703 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:34,240 Speaker 1: It's just amazing stuff. It's great to mail. It fights 704 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: cancer and it puts you in the zone. Although be 705 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: aware of one thing if you if you like macha 706 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: with like a latte with milk, that milk binds with 707 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: antioxidants very easily, so it neutralizes a lot of the 708 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: antioxidant effect in Macha. Yeah, Emily said. I told her 709 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: that I was going to get some in it had 710 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 1: been a while, and she said something about making me 711 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: a Macha latte, and I was like, I don't think 712 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: I want that. I think it just either dump it 713 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 1: in a smoothie or or just make my tea. Okay, 714 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: it's worth trying though. It's very good. Maybe Okay, whatever 715 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,439 Speaker 1: you want to do. I'm I just think it's top 716 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: notch that we're drinking much of these days, we're gonna 717 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: live to hud thirty forty maybe do you have it 718 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: every day? Do you drink much every day? No? I 719 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: don't drink nearly enough, Macha, but this has gotten me 720 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: back into it as well. I made a little bit, 721 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: had the little uh bamboo scoop the cha shako, and 722 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: I started making myself some and Yumi Soda is doing 723 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: so she came over and finished making it for me. 724 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: It was very sweet. She said, here's what you're doing wrong. 725 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: She said, move dummy, but she said in Japanese and 726 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: I was like, what do you say and she said nothing. Yeah, 727 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: well it sounded nice because it's right exactly. And then 728 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: I think we should finish with this great quote from 729 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: why it's so popular these days? Um? And who is 730 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: this from? This is from Anna Calls of Green Gables, 731 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 1: who is a health coach and co authored Macha Colon, 732 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: a lifestyle guide. She says, this, the kermit the frog 733 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 1: color just made it so instagrammable that that we have 734 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 1: gooped to thank for it. That's right. Uh, let's see, 735 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: that's it for Macha. Go back and um, maybe go 736 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: try it yourself. It's totally worth it. And we hope 737 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: you like it. Uh. And since I said that it's 738 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: time for a listener mail, I'm gonna call this my 739 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: tapeworm experience from Travis. Hey, guys, big fan of the show. 740 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: Loved the one on tape worms, and it gave me 741 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 1: flashbacks to my own experience. Four years ago. I was 742 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: working at a fishing lodge in Ontario, Canada. Had severe 743 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 1: gastro intestinal issues for several weeks over the summer, and 744 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,800 Speaker 1: I visited a doctor and after a stool sample, discovered 745 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: I had a fully mature fish tapeworm inside of me. 746 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: It made for a pretty miserable summer. The doctor helped 747 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: me trace the timeline back to infection, and the likely 748 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: culprit was a batch of cevica that a guest had made. 749 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,280 Speaker 1: Oh no, And for those of you listening to Vicha's 750 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: prepared by soaking fish in citrus juices overnight, essentially cooking it, 751 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 1: ideally cooking it, chemically cooking. I was to be just great. 752 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: Love it. Um. I was prescribed one pill to paralyze 753 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: the worm so it would release its hold and my 754 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 1: body could get rid of it. But I had to 755 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 1: wait in agonizing three days for the pill to arrive 756 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: due to my remote location. Nothing like knowing there's a 757 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: thirty inch tape worm inside of you, leaching away at 758 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: your bodies and nuturious. I can't imagine. Can you imagine 759 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 1: just a little bit? Like all right, three days? I 760 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: just got to know this about myself. I can't. I can't. 761 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what I would do to numb that pain. 762 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: He said. It took a year of supplements to get 763 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 1: my weight back, and he lost twenty pounds and beat 764 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: twelve back to normal. Word of caution, the doctor told me, 765 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,359 Speaker 1: if you plan to eat any raw fish, to make 766 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 1: sure it has a hard freeze for at least twenty 767 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 1: four hours to kill any tape worm eggs. A lesson 768 00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: I will not soon forget. That is from Travis in Bend, Oregon. Man, Travis, 769 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: that was a cruel summer. Indeed, I'm glad you made 770 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 1: it out, though, buddy, Apparently it takes forever to get 771 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 1: stuff in Bend, Oregon. I didn't realize that. I think 772 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 1: he was not in Bend, Oregon at the time. Okay, yeah, 773 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: he was at a fishing lodge in Ontario, Canada. Okay, okay, okay, okay, 774 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 1: um great, well, thank you for that story that was 775 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 1: just magnificent. It really is a good accompaniment to the 776 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 1: actual episode two, don't you think If you want to 777 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: get in touch with this, like Travis did, you can 778 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 1: send us an email send it off to Stuff podcast 779 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: at iHeart radio dot com. Stuff you Should Know is 780 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 1: a production of iHeart Radio's How Stuff Works. For more 781 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 1: podcasts for my heart Radio is at the iHeart radio app, 782 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever he listened to your favorite shows.