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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode the Gangs the Chronicles podcast, broadcasting
Speaker 1: from the mother Flipping Coin Academy with my guys, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and my man is soaring Baker. You got to start
Speaker 1: saying your own name, so.
Speaker 3: All right, Soren Baker. I'm in the buildings. Thanks for
Speaker 3: having me.
Speaker 1: Off journalists extraordinary super journalists. And my man a was
Speaker 1: out last week. How you feeling, you're good, man? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm straight. Everything good for sure? For sure. Man, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of real interesting shit going on in that list.
Speaker 1: Don't have a few of the rapper only's upset dog.
Speaker 1: They ain't nobody, you know. I haven't heard any comments.
Speaker 1: I've seen a few comments. But you know, the funniest
Speaker 1: thing is when they get mad and because they missed
Speaker 1: their name on the list, and I'm like, well you
Speaker 1: on that, bro, you don't see it. You're right down
Speaker 1: at number twenty six, twenty seven.
Speaker 4: They said, both of y'all fucked up for y'all crazy
Speaker 4: is hell? Y'all ain't got no Sebo y'all craze.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's one of the He's one of the greats,
Speaker 3: that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Like that, what thk you?
Speaker 4: The bowl is a gangster? How How how come Siebo
Speaker 4: had no album on the list?
Speaker 1: Hey man, Siebo? For me, Sebull came in like rong,
Speaker 1: number fifty three, fifty four. He was close to here.
Speaker 1: But you gotta understand something. If you put Sebull in here.
Speaker 1: If you bump somebody out and put him in, then
Speaker 1: you have another person. But why you didn't have him?
Speaker 3: You can't.
Speaker 1: Everybody can't be in the top fifty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think people's opinion of when you say
Speaker 4: and gangster rap, how can you not consider Cio he is?
Speaker 4: He is the most West Coast gangster gangster gangster? You know,
Speaker 4: how can you now?
Speaker 1: Seboll do great work? But you know what I got
Speaker 1: for all the.
Speaker 4: Can you have somebody like the Loonies or mob deep
Speaker 4: over somebody who represents criptit as far as a gangster?
Speaker 1: So because every nigga is a criminogous had the album
Speaker 1: and the Tough Fi because.
Speaker 4: Well that's because people are saying, y'all are calling it
Speaker 4: gangster rap.
Speaker 1: Well, who's who's gangster?
Speaker 4: So you're saying a nigga in New York is gangster
Speaker 4: more than a nigga claiming a crypt set in Sacramento. Well,
Speaker 4: you know the thing is, And I'm just saying because
Speaker 4: this is what this is what the the questions that
Speaker 4: are being presented as far as you know, because niggas
Speaker 4: just they have their opinions about what's a gangster rap album?
Speaker 1: And I have a solution for all them people out there. Listen,
Speaker 1: I got this, I got I got no. I ain't
Speaker 1: gon get a nigga a solution for all of them.
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna get a niggave because that's what it is.
Speaker 1: It just an opinion, right right, Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you the secret to all this, big dog and
Speaker 1: this this is solvet everything. Go one bit sual pin.
Speaker 1: Pick up a piece of paper and you can write
Speaker 1: your own list and you can have wherever you want
Speaker 1: to in there.
Speaker 4: But as a normal citizen and a motherfucker who don't
Speaker 4: have a billion download platform podcast.
Speaker 1: Has they're a gangster chronic like Sawing Baker.
Speaker 4: Who's been on all kind of you know, platforms, and
Speaker 4: you know, got a book out about rap and all
Speaker 4: of that. I'm just a regular truck driving nigga who
Speaker 4: go to work from nine to five. I'm not making
Speaker 4: no gangster. You the expert. How can you not have
Speaker 4: ce ball?
Speaker 1: I feel like you know what, man, And don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, A lot of thought went into this shit though.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm gonna get'm I'm gonna get on you too.
Speaker 1: So and because a lot of the unins had to
Speaker 1: bend it about how can you not have dog pounds
Speaker 1: the fuckers when you know what? And that's what I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read my list first of all. Right now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read the list.
Speaker 5: Well as far as dog pounds, Dazz is like nigga,
Speaker 5: I'm gangster rap, well, dad, and you have a list
Speaker 5: is on the chronic ands on doggys now not as.
Speaker 4: All get out here, I'm the dog pound, Dazz, Dillagers, gangster,
Speaker 4: Long Beach, twenty first Street cripping.
Speaker 1: Again, these are what.
Speaker 4: People look at as y'all niggas talking about where does
Speaker 4: gangster come from?
Speaker 1: Right right?
Speaker 4: Because that's their opinion. Like I said, we got gangster
Speaker 4: shit that I felt like. I listened to gangster records
Speaker 4: from here to New York. In my opinion, ghetto boys
Speaker 4: gripping on another level that was gangster to me. Absolutely
Speaker 4: home the three two, the convicts, that was gangster shit
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 1: But you know how some people feel like.
Speaker 3: You know we from right now?
Speaker 1: I got you.
Speaker 4: We're from the West Coast. We from Compton, Lone Beach,
Speaker 4: Watts South Central.
Speaker 1: Fuck it.
Speaker 4: Even if you want to go up to the Bay
Speaker 4: Area in Oakland and Sacramento. You know, we are the
Speaker 4: epitome of gangsters, cripping blood.
Speaker 1: And you know, on wax, banging on wax.
Speaker 4: So how you know that's the opinions again of some
Speaker 4: other cats who feel like but the niggas from the beach, me.
Speaker 3: From the East Siders are on my list.
Speaker 4: East Side they was twenty first Street, you know, insane
Speaker 4: rolling twenties, like, how can they not be in your
Speaker 4: consideration of the fifty top gangster rapp Right?
Speaker 1: So, I don't know if we give more gangs in
Speaker 1: this This is top ten number one Snoop Dog Doggy
Speaker 1: Style two Ice Cube Death Certificate, three Doctor Dreda Chronic
Speaker 1: four Easy Easy does It? Five n w A Niggas
Speaker 1: for Life? Six ghetto Boys, We Can't be stopped. Seven
Speaker 1: fifty cent get Richard Trump, which was a gangster them Hey,
Speaker 1: doctor Dreda chronic in two thousand and one, nine ice
Speaker 1: Cube America's most TEENA scarface to fix, eleven n w
Speaker 1: A three out of Compton m C eight we Come Strapped,
Speaker 1: Ice t Ryan pays fourteen bone Thugs Harmony East nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety nine Eternal that was a gangster am what you
Speaker 1: consider that more gangster than a dog food No, but
Speaker 1: let me finish. No, I'm just saying, thought those.
Speaker 4: Are your top fifteen whatever. But you con consider bone
Speaker 4: Thugs more gangster than the dog pound, dazz and corrupt?
Speaker 3: This is music.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not who's more gangs and it's still music
Speaker 1: because because still in the aspect of the dog pound
Speaker 1: versus ball thugs and harmony, dog pounds still is more gangster.
Speaker 3: But that's a different conversation here.
Speaker 1: That's a different conversation. Now, if I'm picking some motherfuckers,
Speaker 1: do you.
Speaker 3: Know who represents cripping the hardest? Then that's a different
Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, that's a different question.
Speaker 1: And then this is what I say. Right here, they
Speaker 1: talked about three shit.
Speaker 4: You know you've got the first or maybe maybe maybe
Speaker 4: the aspects should have been more on street records instead
Speaker 4: of gangster because when you go gangster, niggas are gonna go.
Speaker 4: How can you say bone Thugs is more gangster than us? Right,
Speaker 4: you get me, because that's what they consider gangster rap.
Speaker 4: Let's let's put it, let's go to West Coast in general.
Speaker 4: Feet all straight up. Absolutely, they didn't start saying gangster
Speaker 4: rap because of us, right, if Bone Thugs in Harmony
Speaker 4: came out whatever, they would never been called gangster rap.
Speaker 4: They would beat Bone Thugs in Harmony, right, you give me.
Speaker 4: But because the symbolization of gangsters came from West Coast
Speaker 4: niggas going with crips and bloods. Okay, So niggas like
Speaker 4: Easy started talking about boys in the hood because we
Speaker 4: were hood niggas. You're right, you saw the aspect of
Speaker 4: some people. The generalization is I love bone Thug bang
Speaker 4: the fuck out of East nineteen ninety nine, But when
Speaker 4: you go put it up against somebody who's supposed to
Speaker 4: be a gangster fucking rapper, people are gonna question that. Like,
Speaker 4: I never considered bone Thugs gangster.
Speaker 1: Was they street? Yeah? They were smarter niggas, but they
Speaker 1: did know.
Speaker 3: But that's that's like. But that's the thing of different
Speaker 3: people looking at different things. We you and I didn't
Speaker 3: think the Loonies were against the rap album still did.
Speaker 3: But that's still's opinions. So it's not a to me.
Speaker 3: That's one part of us that dude.
Speaker 4: Do you like does it go to the aspect of
Speaker 4: so when you bang Operation Stackola.
Speaker 1: Which is a phenomenal accent to the loonies that you
Speaker 1: think they were gangster niggas or you just felt they
Speaker 1: were some street niggas. Well, this is what I feel
Speaker 1: like this, I feel like anything with CATS's talking about
Speaker 1: some street ship. I think.
Speaker 3: See that's what we disagree those I disagree with you.
Speaker 3: Still I don't think of it that way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because that's I don't think of it. I don't
Speaker 4: think that niggas who's everyone who talks street ship is
Speaker 4: a gangster rap.
Speaker 3: But that's why I said.
Speaker 1: And here's the songs on the album. On Louise album
Speaker 1: number two, on which album Operation Stack Older you got.
Speaker 1: The intro number two is put the lid on. You
Speaker 1: talked about busting on somebody.
Speaker 3: But that's not that's not gang banging those that's Mars Street.
Speaker 3: It's not gang but it's not gang ba it's street ship.
Speaker 1: It's not what they're saying. They from or they claim
Speaker 1: they're not in the ville. They claim in the ville.
Speaker 1: What's what's the ville? The vill is the neighborhood where
Speaker 1: they're from, the Ville was up in the other one,
Speaker 1: one of the artists neighborhoods, and the one the West
Speaker 1: Coast is up there. They do their ship. They selling
Speaker 1: dope up there, they're selling pussy, they're doing some everything.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's getting shut. There's some gamester shit.
Speaker 4: To me, it's just it's just the aspect of where you,
Speaker 4: like I said, like you saying west coast, West coast
Speaker 4: artists are gonna always fit, especially if they in that field.
Speaker 4: But because like I said, we've had niggas outside of
Speaker 4: gangster shit. We've had hieroglyphics, we've had fucking the all
Speaker 4: the funky homo sapey, and we've had the alcoholic and
Speaker 4: I wouldn't the album no, and that's what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: but they still talk to street shit. I bang the
Speaker 4: alcoholics because it's street shiit to me. The niggas ain't
Speaker 4: talking about motherfucking you know, riding hot air balloons and
Speaker 4: niggas talking about nigga we getting drunk in the neighborhood
Speaker 4: and you know bitches and that's some street shit to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the alcoholics always represent themselves as a hip
Speaker 1: hop group. There was more like of.
Speaker 3: Course, I think too. This is another big thing that
Speaker 3: I think, kind of building off what E's saying, is
Speaker 3: that when we go to other cities, Chicago got a
Speaker 3: lot of gang banging music. But because the media or
Speaker 3: the fans or whatever. Nationally the West Coast, however, don't
Speaker 3: look at it like, oh, these dudes are representing gd
Speaker 3: These dudes are representing whatever. They represent, Latin kings, whatever,
Speaker 3: vice lords. They're not looked at as gangster rappers to
Speaker 3: the average person, even though if you listen to a
Speaker 3: lot of their music it's super gag bang.
Speaker 4: They would be considered gangster to them. And here's because
Speaker 4: you have the niggas talking about we from sixty this, yeah,
Speaker 4: sixty that, we from this, we from Tucaville, we from one.
Speaker 1: Of saying this.
Speaker 3: Back in the day, nobody looking back, No, no, they were.
Speaker 1: Banging on their records because back.
Speaker 4: In the day when you got when you listening to
Speaker 4: Hey in the barn, right, Oh, but niggas going there,
Speaker 4: them niggas the street. I knew Cruise Show, did a
Speaker 4: lot of songs with I knew a lot of shows
Speaker 4: with them. But nobody would go all their niggas gangster rappers.
Speaker 3: But they knew that in Chicago because you understood the slang,
Speaker 3: and you have to understand the slang in order to
Speaker 3: be able to look at them as gangster rap rappers
Speaker 3: was good street. But yeah, the Chicago image to us
Speaker 3: was common and ship like that. So but then, like
Speaker 3: I said, when you go down south, there was the
Speaker 3: ghetto boys. There was fucking Willie B. Scarface Bushwick. It
Speaker 3: was fucking big Mic, it was fucking three two. It
Speaker 3: was fucking against the nip and you know.
Speaker 1: It was it was it was well, you knew. I
Speaker 1: had a conversation, was fucking slim thug you know, it
Speaker 1: against the rap to me in the North, the North,
Speaker 1: the Boss of the North and a w F the
Speaker 1: North North, Big Boss of the North, slim Thuger, slimp
Speaker 1: Thugger has some dope as albums.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh that's that's all I was saying. You know,
Speaker 4: the opinions of and I feel that the opinions of
Speaker 4: certain certain consumers and fans as opposed to you know,
Speaker 4: because then that's gonna be the controversy. Oh how can
Speaker 4: you not have this? So and still how can you
Speaker 4: not have this record? But you got this wreck and
Speaker 4: I think my list is gangster.
Speaker 1: Then the motherfucker fifteen DJ Quick Quick as the name,
Speaker 1: sixteen Snoop Dog the last meal said, all you let
Speaker 1: me acts this. I'll do it both of y'all out
Speaker 1: of the top fifty.
Speaker 4: Gangster rap records. What did you not consider about c
Speaker 4: BO not making the top fifty. Oh you said he's
Speaker 4: fifty two. He had it all, he had like three albums.
Speaker 1: You as your list go, he ain't gangster enough to
Speaker 1: make my top fifty. Well, see, first of all, I
Speaker 1: didn't engaged Muster for who the Heart because if it
Speaker 1: was based off who the artist motherfucker was, that's a
Speaker 1: different need. You knowing a lot of these people first
Speaker 1: need a lot of these motherfuckers on here. I ain't
Speaker 1: saying in bed, but they ain't this to the artist,
Speaker 1: be a different.
Speaker 3: List, be a different list.
Speaker 1: I questioned it, Uh, we all want to question your
Speaker 1: your heart miss authenticity right now? Buenis.
Speaker 4: I ain't saying them right, They just saying this is k.
Speaker 4: This is just like like, yeah, we we got questioned
Speaker 4: your hood is or whatever. We just I'm just asking them,
Speaker 4: you know, and this is that this is their personal
Speaker 4: opinion because it's not about your your stripes, and it
Speaker 4: hat about how many times you got down with the
Speaker 4: opposition or if you're a crip, if you ever u
Speaker 4: you know, got into some blood ship or if you're
Speaker 4: a blood, if you ever got into some crip shit.
Speaker 1: We're not We're not question in that.
Speaker 4: I'm just asking his opinion because of his top fifty,
Speaker 4: why didn't he consider see bowl inside that fifty?
Speaker 1: Actually, you know what I'm gonna tell you Where I
Speaker 1: originally had Sea Boot Dog, I had the mob Father
Speaker 1: in there, right, Okay, I originally had the mob Father
Speaker 1: in there. But I originally had that at number forty one. Okay,
Speaker 1: So what made you say I had to go back
Speaker 1: and ruder? You have as forty one? I got Coolia
Speaker 1: It Takes a Thief. That was a hard ass album.
Speaker 3: And I just say, to those two albums, I go
Speaker 3: with the mob Father, not because it's cool, yeah, but.
Speaker 4: What's gave me a choice? And COOLi, oh, restern peace
Speaker 4: was my peoples.
Speaker 1: You know, I would go with the my fther all
Speaker 1: day or that one direction going on quality of not
Speaker 1: quality of music, but not necessarily still yeah, okay, let me.
Speaker 1: I want to hear this. I want to hear this
Speaker 1: on the thing is I'm gonna I'm gonna acknowledge y'all
Speaker 1: both about something about Kolier. It takes it because it
Speaker 1: sounds like you're sleeping on homie. No, that's not it.
Speaker 3: Never let me remind you.
Speaker 1: All about something looking at I'll hurt all y'all out,
Speaker 1: I'll hurt all yo. Let me put my track listen
Speaker 1: up all right, talk about the County Line of Will's
Speaker 1: fair office that don't like it, don't have nothing? What
Speaker 1: what the fuck did this? She gotta do with gangs?
Speaker 1: Banger so a motherfucker have a reality.
Speaker 4: Saying then why then why didn't we do a list
Speaker 4: that says reality rap records or street influence records?
Speaker 1: And he says, when you go gangster, niggas is gonna
Speaker 1: go no way. Toulio's music is more gangster than ce
Speaker 1: Bowl and it has nothing to do with because he
Speaker 1: talking about the County Line and welfare with a gangster
Speaker 1: and the album went two times latinum because of Gangster's Paradise. Well, no,
Speaker 1: that was on the next album. I'm just saying, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying. Still it takes a thief.
Speaker 3: Gangster's Paradise on it takes a thief.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, but thank you. When you heard that ship,
Speaker 4: he'll be thinking either county line be checking me.
Speaker 1: Actually, hold on, man, I'm a brother, tell you well
Speaker 1: need you. We want you to know why you went
Speaker 1: with It takes a thief mob Father. Hold on, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you if something gainst Paradise wasn't on, it
Speaker 1: takes a thief. It is, brother, show you something, Brother,
Speaker 1: show you something.
Speaker 4: Why can't you just answer the question and stop trying
Speaker 4: to compare your songs? This is what what made you
Speaker 4: pick It takes a thief over the mob.
Speaker 1: Father because I thought it was a better body of work.
Speaker 1: Not like that right there. I thought it was overall
Speaker 1: a bitter fun So what just production and publicity and
Speaker 1: all of that. No, not just that man right there.
Speaker 1: See I looked at the broad appeal of it, and
Speaker 1: the mob Father album was the ship it is. I
Speaker 1: lost like I ain't gonna say I lost sleep over
Speaker 1: this ship.
Speaker 3: But this was hard.
Speaker 1: I went back and forth up to the last minut
Speaker 1: over this ship. It was a lot of shit that
Speaker 1: guy switched out. And I remember them songs.
Speaker 3: My father was one of them.
Speaker 6: Uh, gas chamber for me is up there. Almost almost
Speaker 6: put up the casket drops. Come on, man, almost put
Speaker 6: FBI by my guys from out of Flint, Dayton family,
Speaker 6: Dayton family, almost put FBI.
Speaker 1: Feel real strongly about that.
Speaker 3: That's a great album.
Speaker 1: Almost put that up in there, and I almost put
Speaker 1: the Almys up in their top authority. That was one
Speaker 1: of the most some to blaze too. That Michigan Flint
Speaker 1: had some cold ass gamester shit jumping. Let me hear
Speaker 1: your shit. From forty to fifty, from forty to fifty,
Speaker 1: Here you go right here forty brother Lin Shawn, Season
Speaker 1: of the Sickness. I'll take that. Forty one Coolie or
Speaker 1: it takes a Thief forty two Spice one self titled
Speaker 1: forty three Big Mic some serious number forty four do
Speaker 1: or Die? Picture this number forty five young Jeezy. Let's
Speaker 1: get a thug motivation one on one forty six but
Speaker 1: of Law, Living like Us forty seven scar Faced The
Speaker 1: World is Yours forty eight Thug Life, Thug Life Volume one,
Speaker 1: forty nine, Doug Life, Yeah, a thug Life, Big Psyche
Speaker 1: or a little liquor, Well lit it on there. Don't
Speaker 1: blame mama, you can't blame my daddy, Big psych and
Speaker 1: all of them.
Speaker 4: I know they were in his favorites then his personal favorites.
Speaker 4: Forty No disrespect to thug life.
Speaker 1: I never listened to that record. I like that record.
Speaker 1: I like I never listened to that rap forty nine
Speaker 1: And y'all might disagree with this, but I thought mag
Speaker 1: Dra was a gangster. Mag Dre's stupid dude who dumb
Speaker 1: and number fifty mc breeds a new breed eight steal.
Speaker 3: Half of those I wouldn't say are even gangster rapper.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, y'all basing everything off of
Speaker 1: a motherfucker's a cripple.
Speaker 3: Blood No, I'm not. No, we're banged, ye, don't They
Speaker 3: have to be it? So they have.
Speaker 1: In order for you to be a gangster rapper, you
Speaker 1: have to be a member of an organization. That's what
Speaker 1: it is. Blood and that's what I swept that. That's
Speaker 1: what said that against him. Thereforece coalition. He was with
Speaker 1: the funks from the Crest.
Speaker 4: Listen, and I can get it, like you know, everybody
Speaker 4: does against the rapper. Everybody doesn't have cripping and blood
Speaker 4: and I get that. So the aspect of when you
Speaker 4: say gangster rat.
Speaker 1: And almost puts juvenile up in that more for the
Speaker 1: form of the degrees juvenile in against the rapper, Nah
Speaker 1: jay Z, reasonable dol. That's not a lot of records.
Speaker 1: I wanted to put in here, I didn't put in because, yeah,
Speaker 1: right there, I didn't put jay Z's reasonable.
Speaker 3: That's not a gangster rapp is a gangster rapper.
Speaker 4: That's to me that street sh is street street ship
Speaker 4: is different from gangster ship. Still, it's different, and I
Speaker 4: get it. You come from the side where you feel
Speaker 4: like nigga gangster is a gangster. It don't matter if
Speaker 4: he claiming the hood. But you can't tell that to
Speaker 4: niggas who claimed hoods and who are gangst the rapper.
Speaker 1: I understand that. That's why, that's what I'm saying. On
Speaker 1: the West Saw, everybody has their opinion like that. That's
Speaker 1: their opinion, that's their stances.
Speaker 4: No, even if you go to the East Coast, you
Speaker 4: go to the East Coast, they called us gangster rappers.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you. This is Benny Sigel against
Speaker 1: the rapper. Not to me, his his song should have
Speaker 1: been on this. I didn't put him in there because
Speaker 1: I knew you all would be coming with this ship
Speaker 1: like that. Right there, Benny Siegel had water and he
Speaker 1: was hood Benny hood Is. I thought he was hood.
Speaker 1: I thought he was hood.
Speaker 4: What I put him in the category because of seeing
Speaker 4: how you step in, then he would probably make my
Speaker 4: list for gangster rap records.
Speaker 1: And I thought I could swirl all these people gonna
Speaker 1: hear his gangst rappers to me and my my humble opinion.
Speaker 1: And I didn't have a whole I just crossed streets.
Speaker 1: It with with with with gangster rappers, two different things.
Speaker 1: I don't know, and a lot of people do that.
Speaker 1: That's why when you when you can say.
Speaker 4: I thought it takes a thief was more gangster than
Speaker 4: the mob father, You're never gonna get that fucking.
Speaker 1: See see not in base mind old because if it
Speaker 1: was based on the criteria who the hardest motherfucker is
Speaker 1: the two motherfuckers at the top, the list would have
Speaker 1: been se boll and Trade or something.
Speaker 4: You know, but but but the nigga wouldn't have a
Speaker 4: nigga wouldn't have second gainst. You a Nick and tradey
Speaker 4: hard as a mother fucker can rank.
Speaker 3: Nig can rhyme like the mother let me go rhyme.
Speaker 3: And you know why.
Speaker 1: It's a difference. And I'm gonna tell you this, you
Speaker 1: know why. You know why I got the East Siders
Speaker 1: and their self titled album in there because they both
Speaker 1: rhyming like a motherfucker. Se Bull was rhyming like a
Speaker 1: motherfucker on the gas chain, Brad, motherfucker. Everything Seball put
Speaker 1: out was a one. I'm not saying he wouldn't they one.
Speaker 1: It was just in my personal opinion.
Speaker 4: Is, come on, take a ride on the fantastic voyage.
Speaker 4: It's like, compare that to a ce Bowl song where
Speaker 4: Sea Bows standing on the block.
Speaker 3: With nig In fact, still, if I remember correctly.
Speaker 4: That a nigga's riding around on bike wheels and shit
Speaker 4: and making shit comical, you're never gonna get a nigga
Speaker 4: do well?
Speaker 1: You feel me? Hey?
Speaker 3: What is Coolio?
Speaker 1: Oh no?
Speaker 3: What does Coolio say on Gangster's Paradise. Ain't no blooding,
Speaker 3: ain't no cripping, Ain't no punk ass brother set tripping.
Speaker 3: He's actually saying, I know what he's saying. But it's
Speaker 3: also like, come on.
Speaker 1: It was a different see y'all taking it from the
Speaker 1: stands many but he says it on the song still yo,
Speaker 1: But the brother is saying that ain't no set tripping
Speaker 1: going on that day. Brothers have a good time. Niggas
Speaker 1: ain't just hard twenty four motherfucker, siven.
Speaker 4: If if you want, if you if you want to,
Speaker 4: if you want to give that on the aspect, because
Speaker 4: Coolio was from the West Coast, he came up with.
Speaker 3: Dub you know, and any damn thing changes on my list.
Speaker 4: But to me, Coolio wasn't crazy once he touched that
Speaker 4: pop side. I'm not tripping off of that. I'm not
Speaker 4: finna rap now wrapped on colorblinde. So let me ask
Speaker 4: you all this. I'm finna rap about having fun par
Speaker 4: address code and you get me, nigga, we finna be one, two,
Speaker 4: three four, get ya? You know nobody's gonna.
Speaker 1: Come ask y'all. List down, Hey, Hey, balling MJG on there,
Speaker 1: coming up hard. They're not gangster. The album one Gangster.
Speaker 3: That's a gangster album. Bank Robbery, mister Big, that's some
Speaker 3: street ship. It's some street ship. Yeah, Man's Street. That's
Speaker 3: where I'm coming from. I got dubb C. The Shadi
Speaker 3: is on there, y'all. Don't think Mob Deep murder music, y'all.
Speaker 3: I think that's gangster shit. I put Mob Deep on
Speaker 3: my list. I think they're gangster for real, for sure.
Speaker 1: I mean, and the thing is, I don't know what
Speaker 1: products you getting old boy is the hardest motherfuckers in
Speaker 1: the world. I don't think about it is just a
Speaker 1: hard ass out and that shit used to be qual.
Speaker 1: You know, they got some.
Speaker 4: People like I said, it's it's the difference of opinion
Speaker 4: of what motherfucker's gonna say gangster shit is, because if
Speaker 4: you never came from the gang bang life, you gonna
Speaker 4: consider anything a nigga talking about pulling a pistol I
Speaker 4: saw dope, you know whatever whatever to.
Speaker 1: You that niggas is gangster. I want to ask because
Speaker 1: I don't can't, I don't clean crippled blood, and I
Speaker 1: think I've done everything damn near every every other motherfucker
Speaker 1: from other neighborhood don't did except for gang bang. I wanna.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna see something real quick, cold on, real quick.
Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm gonna ask the motherfucker a nigga is
Speaker 1: really from the motherfucker and I know you're really from
Speaker 1: the soil, But I just want to see all sides
Speaker 1: to a nigga's opinion, right, it's really from the ood.
Speaker 1: A fady, I got you on a Gangster Chronicles live
Speaker 1: right now. I want to ask you question, right, I
Speaker 1: gotta ask you a question. So I'm gonna be doing
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of customers.
Speaker 4: You know, all this nigga do, man, he all we
Speaker 4: gotta put his he already gotta do his live call
Speaker 4: leans or some ship when we get to when we
Speaker 4: get to digging and steals ass.
Speaker 1: That's what he got the call for backup right quick. Hey,
Speaker 1: when we was kids, dog was all the eighty five six.
Speaker 3: You was doing.
Speaker 1: I was doing it with you, right, I'm gonna let yeah,
Speaker 1: he did you steal the He don't be thinking, man,
Speaker 1: he he just just know I'm talking about as far
Speaker 1: as the ship that we begt you know, like a
Speaker 1: nigga was selling dope, a niggas was still wants it.
Speaker 1: Still wants to know the difference.
Speaker 3: Let me know. I'll be check it out.
Speaker 4: Still wants to know the difference of gang of gang
Speaker 4: ship and street ship. Is there a difference?
Speaker 1: Thank you you go. We talked about some music. It
Speaker 1: don't matter if it's music or if it's it's nice.
Speaker 1: Difference between gangster shit and street ship exactly.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then it's still got if I wouldn went
Speaker 7: to the Bennett Pintree end up being from the set
Speaker 7: that was so different but yeah, you know, nigga bus
Speaker 7: some niggas up, nigga pistol on your set, acting funny
Speaker 7: with your money and sit look get that about this
Speaker 7: thing and free with nigga was going about it.
Speaker 1: But you just you just heard him. If I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have went it a being you would have went, you
Speaker 1: would have got put on the hood is a difference.
Speaker 3: You aren't you.
Speaker 1: You know you ain't from the hood. You ain't from
Speaker 1: the hood. Yeah, you were selling. I know plenty of.
Speaker 4: Niggas right now who don't claim shit and still do
Speaker 4: street ship. I still serve, I still get my whatever,
Speaker 4: but I'm not going around claiming a particular spot.
Speaker 1: And we did that. It's a difference between gangster ship
Speaker 1: and street ship. Can I do?
Speaker 8: That would have coupled you if you're the claim and
Speaker 8: said what I mean by that, you was able to
Speaker 8: cause tyresending line fuck with niggas from the Red from
Speaker 8: different sets.
Speaker 9: You were able to mingle on going around and not
Speaker 9: have a h you know protocol that's ad to do
Speaker 9: some he'll back there. If you saw a nigga from
Speaker 9: another set and they were any it was a little dude.
Speaker 1: If you were the act of Live day when you
Speaker 1: got crackled on that nigg off the dribble and we
Speaker 1: were doing that in a long sight, really, nigga get
Speaker 1: properly with the gas.
Speaker 3: Famish went to the brother's WoT they're gonna get pumping.
Speaker 1: But are you not being.
Speaker 4: You wasn't affiliated, so you can still go out there
Speaker 4: and cop dope and sell and do all that. But
Speaker 4: when you see a nigga from the other side, you're
Speaker 4: gonna be like, hey, what's up on me? You're gonna
Speaker 4: be like, what's up?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 4: It ain't gonna be like nigga, this is the who
Speaker 4: that on sight, it's a difference between gangster ship and
Speaker 4: street ship. I know plenty of niggas who from the
Speaker 4: streets who have who you so? So you crossed that
Speaker 4: over into these albums too.
Speaker 1: Are is there difference between street records and gangster records?
Speaker 1: Do you could sit probably let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: Would you consider Rick Ross against the rapper? What you what?
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Thank What you consider se Bowl against the rapper?
Speaker 4: Is he a gang member? Yeah, it's a difference between
Speaker 4: games in the street of ship. It's a difference just
Speaker 4: saying you just put.
Speaker 3: The cripping all up in the music. It's not.
Speaker 4: About blood, it's it's it's about the name gangster compared
Speaker 4: to just street s w we call homelimited.
Speaker 10: I don't when the Funks came out, they wouldn't put
Speaker 10: on niggas know what it was, Well, you got it
Speaker 10: new thin niggas a fuck.
Speaker 8: Well you know what's there?
Speaker 3: Raguelser than me.
Speaker 4: They didn't give a fuck. They didn't give a fuck nigga.
Speaker 4: On my first album cover, I had a Nike jacket on.
Speaker 1: You give me. I didn't have all the blue bandannas
Speaker 1: and whatever. Whatever. It's just because niggas knew I was
Speaker 1: from Tragnu. That's a gangster rapper.
Speaker 4: When I went out of town in New York and
Speaker 4: I went to promo, shit and woomti woom, and niggas
Speaker 4: see us jump out with sweatshirts on and blue khakis
Speaker 4: and blue Nikes with strings in them. Shit, they go
Speaker 4: them niggas gangsters. Now, I could have jumped out in
Speaker 4: some guest jeans and a regular button down and been like, yeah, nigga,
Speaker 4: I'm from Compton. They'd have been like, oh, yeah, that's
Speaker 4: the he from the streets. But nah, Now when I'm
Speaker 4: jumping out Nigga with the jury curl Nigga and the
Speaker 4: tea hat on and motherfucking the khakis and the blue
Speaker 4: converts with pot of blue strings in them. When I
Speaker 4: walk up in that corporate office, them Nigga's going, that's
Speaker 4: Agates the rapper. They're not going that Nigga street.
Speaker 1: It's a difference.
Speaker 3: I just could have done at Nigga.
Speaker 1: Man, I've been fucking dad became when a producing all that,
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Perfect perfect, perfect example, perfect example. Coolio
Speaker 1: from Campton, which you consider Coolio gates the rappers.
Speaker 8: Before I knew he was a rapper, I knew he
Speaker 8: was a cold and then I know he messed with
Speaker 8: in the mass he cogy to him rescue. So when
Speaker 8: you when you put on a Coolio record compared to
Speaker 8: a Ceball record, who would you say was more gangster?
Speaker 1: Didn't know balk Our feeled you man, Yoga ostracized me.
Speaker 1: So I ain't got no Sea Ball on this business.
Speaker 3: Time to start sucking with him.
Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying though, just like I just saying,
Speaker 4: you know I got the same thing for Soaring though,
Speaker 4: because so I got his list.
Speaker 1: What I will admit Sea Ball probably should have been
Speaker 1: on this list somewhere. But now do we take one
Speaker 1: of Scarface's albums off? Now, it's just it's to let
Speaker 1: me tell you what happens with that type of ship?
Speaker 1: What the face.
Speaker 3: We got scar Face in the GETTLEP network.
Speaker 1: What happens with Sea Ball is because Sea Bowl got
Speaker 1: you got eight on that. Let's just face it.
Speaker 3: He was an underground rapper, never made it volume teen.
Speaker 3: I was Volume teen against the repor I know he
Speaker 3: had the one song pistol Dude, I was a jack
Speaker 3: of album nigga.
Speaker 1: I was was out it off.
Speaker 3: There's some cutting my lap all the time. I've been
Speaker 3: checking for other foods, gonna be chacking from my.
Speaker 7: Ris.
Speaker 1: That is probably the most gags on pistol rip my
Speaker 1: But was this album like where's the body of work at?
Speaker 10: With no?
Speaker 3: It's called hip hopraa, it's not a gangster rap out.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, some dudes didn't want the gangster rap title, right.
Speaker 1: A lot of niggas didn't want it. A lot of
Speaker 1: niggas didn't want it because, like I said, it was
Speaker 1: a different time back then.
Speaker 4: Now you can say you're a gangster. Talk about you
Speaker 4: from Trag New we shot up a gang of niggas
Speaker 4: and then you get twenty million downloads and shit, you
Speaker 4: give me.
Speaker 3: But back in argument, it was getting banned not playing videos.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people did not like us. You know why should
Speaker 1: have liked this though? Me knowing a lot of rappers
Speaker 1: that call theirself gangsters and some niggas from even hood,
Speaker 1: I feel like I was more active than they.
Speaker 4: Was when we was younger, you know, And I get
Speaker 4: what you're saying to that still, but now you like
Speaker 4: a oh the fun we get this off from the ord.
Speaker 10: We had.
Speaker 8: I think the way artists like yourself and uh, the
Speaker 8: artists who did not come out and say what he
Speaker 8: was from on their record, but niggas we knew where
Speaker 8: he was from, I think you made more money doing
Speaker 8: it that way then the way niggas put their set
Speaker 8: out there. Now, I think you eliminate yourself of making
Speaker 8: some kind of moneyless because you're signifying where you're fun of.
Speaker 8: Back then, I don't think that the major Jung Leney
Speaker 8: seeing out where he was fun by you not signified
Speaker 8: word about where were you're from over and over in
Speaker 8: the song.
Speaker 1: I think you made more money like that. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that person made more money like that.
Speaker 3: That's why everybody wore neutral colors for years on the
Speaker 3: album covers and the videos, all that you were married
Speaker 3: and you know, I never met you personally.
Speaker 1: They shouldn't give me.
Speaker 8: We thought we knew where he was fun, you know what,
Speaker 8: Milton puzz They won you so in any other artists.
Speaker 4: That we came out with a blue cassette tape. Man,
Speaker 4: my first album on cassette tel was a blue the
Speaker 4: blue tape.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, me, I was bang man, I'm on
Speaker 1: you going. I didn't give a fuck. Sure, but I
Speaker 1: didn't give a fuck. Nigga.
Speaker 4: I was gang banged, central nigga. Nigga Blue tape, nigga
Speaker 4: camped in high school nigga. I had nigga about twenty
Speaker 4: track new niggas in the video like.
Speaker 1: See shit we It was always my aspect of shit,
Speaker 1: right because that was shit I was doing already before.
Speaker 3: That's who you were, Yeah, that's who you were.
Speaker 4: That's why it's the difference of being street, because I
Speaker 4: could have been a nigga who was living in Campting,
Speaker 4: never gang banging. I still had to skial the write
Speaker 4: and do music, So I could have just been a
Speaker 4: nigga just you know, But for the fact that I
Speaker 4: came up game banging, I started gang banging and from
Speaker 4: singing the fucking an oppression from being a gang banger
Speaker 4: and the like a nigg I got the rights about
Speaker 4: this shit, like because as I saw no way, you know.
Speaker 4: But like I said, it was plenty of niggas who
Speaker 4: records that I banged. I didn't consider gangster, just considered
Speaker 4: the street shit. Fucking like you said, a reasonable doubt.
Speaker 4: I banged the fuck out that shit. It gave me
Speaker 4: street vibes, you understand me. Niggaing the projects, hustling, try
Speaker 4: to get his money. Can't knock the hustle. You know,
Speaker 4: politics as usual. You know, it's nigga from the streets.
Speaker 4: He ain't from no hood, but he from the streets.
Speaker 1: Well you know, And that was the aspect I took
Speaker 1: on it. I said, Okay, these are hard albums to
Speaker 1: me because I never liked soft music. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying and cooliod shit wasn't the most aggressive in
Speaker 1: the world. But I feel like he has some jamin
Speaker 1: ass music on there. It's a lot of great music
Speaker 1: on this So I was just basing it. I based
Speaker 1: my list basically off of if there's some street shit.
Speaker 1: To me, that was some gas and shit because even
Speaker 1: though I wasn't never no qriipp of blood and I
Speaker 1: don't talk about that shit, I did the same shit
Speaker 1: everybody else.
Speaker 4: I mean, but that's just like, that's like any out
Speaker 4: of town you know, affiliate who knows about neighborhoods and whatever.
Speaker 4: You came from Cleveland, you got down with my nigga,
Speaker 4: and to you, there's no symbolization. You ain't got to
Speaker 4: have a band downer. I don't got one, and I'm
Speaker 4: still out here doing the same what it was. It's
Speaker 4: a lot of niggas who come from out of town
Speaker 4: who set up shop or whatever, grow up whatever.
Speaker 1: You ain't gotta get put on you. You ain't got to.
Speaker 4: Claim the hood. You get me, But that aspect still is.
Speaker 4: You consider nigga that nigga street where you can see
Speaker 4: a nigga pull up jump out of his motherfucking Mercedes
Speaker 4: and he got a strap on him and he liked
Speaker 4: nick nigga. That's that's gangster shit, right, That's some gangster
Speaker 4: shit instead of that, because you like I don't symbolize
Speaker 4: with the color aspect.
Speaker 1: So whether it's gangster or street.
Speaker 4: But the whole aspect is when you come from the
Speaker 4: West coast, up and down a little bit over in Arizona,
Speaker 4: and then you go up to Nevada, them niggas is
Speaker 4: game banging. So when you go gangster rap, they're looking
Speaker 4: for the niggas. Who oh, that nigga was from sixties,
Speaker 4: That nigga was from tragnw Oh. Sebo was banging up
Speaker 4: in Sacramento garden block shit, brother lynch Hunt.
Speaker 1: Even though he don't fucking nigga, I chopped your fucking
Speaker 1: cause you're digging your guts. He was cleaning garden blotting block.
Speaker 4: That's a gangster rapper. Even though niggas go, nigga, what
Speaker 4: is this horror movie shit? This nigga rapper, He's still
Speaker 4: considered a gangster rapper because he told nigga, I'm from
Speaker 4: garden Block rep. So it's a difference from going or
Speaker 4: E forty a gangster rapper. No E forty a hustler street. Nigga,
Speaker 4: you're getting me. We come from for Lao. We did
Speaker 4: our thing with it. But E forty ain't telling you, nigga,
Speaker 4: I'm finna go bust on the nigga who got red
Speaker 4: or blue on?
Speaker 1: You know what it was with me, man, And the
Speaker 1: reason the reason why I never got into the game
Speaker 1: banging shit because I had too many other homeboys. And
Speaker 1: that's one thing I saw because that chick, you know,
Speaker 1: you better remember I came out to this motherfucker eighty
Speaker 1: eight eighty nine. It was serious back then, oh definitely,
Speaker 1: And I saw motherfuckers. I said, Okay, so if I'm
Speaker 1: over here, I can't be cool with the homies. No,
Speaker 1: oh you can't. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So I was like, damn, man, I'm a lot of
Speaker 3: child from a lot of.
Speaker 4: Childhood friends separated because you know, we played from you
Speaker 4: football together and we all went to the same school
Speaker 4: until it came time to go to high school. And
Speaker 4: so now nigga, you going over there, I'm over here.
Speaker 4: We no longer can be friends, right you from over there?
Speaker 1: And it was like that, man, because I had a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of casts up from twenties. I was cool
Speaker 1: with in the motherfucker and they was trying to do
Speaker 1: the same shit. That's what fun. But you know, was
Speaker 1: us them niggas go my house. All they was like, man,
Speaker 1: you mother would be from this. I mean, I expect
Speaker 1: this to recruit. I don't give fuck the Army, the Navy,
Speaker 1: any sports team. Nigga.
Speaker 4: We gang bangers niggas. So how do we sustain and
Speaker 4: how do we last forever? We got recruit, right, if
Speaker 4: we gotta recruit. So you out of town ass, nigga,
Speaker 4: and you done came out of here and now you're
Speaker 4: on the block with a serving and you know, if
Speaker 4: we fight a nigga, you fight. You know whether you
Speaker 4: came at the football shit and new niggas from all sides,
Speaker 4: like nigga, we gonna fight. Oh, come over here with
Speaker 4: us and then them nigga's gonna be And then one
Speaker 4: day when you go kick it with the twenties, nigga.
Speaker 1: Nigga, you need to be from over here, right, and
Speaker 1: then you gonna go across. You go across the tracks
Speaker 1: and got a couple of blood friends and they gonna
Speaker 1: do the same thing.
Speaker 3: Nigga.
Speaker 1: You need to be from with us. It's the nature
Speaker 1: of the beasts. Nigga. This shit, we gonna recruit your
Speaker 1: country ass, and we gonna call you country loke, and
Speaker 1: you gonna be from the hood, nigga country and we'll
Speaker 1: put your ass. It's a workmen, dickies and overalls, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna be on the block with us, and what
Speaker 1: niggas come through. Nigga. That's big country right there. From
Speaker 1: the hood, nigga, Nigga, Man, we was out there doing
Speaker 1: some every motherfucking things. You would have got put on. Nigga.
Speaker 1: We don't give a fuck. You was in the hood
Speaker 1: with us.
Speaker 4: He gonna be with this nigga living over here playing football. Please, nigga,
Speaker 4: you hanging out with us? What they spoke it? Niggas
Speaker 4: gonna be three niggas just go jump oh your ass.
Speaker 4: Next thing you know, you're gonna be like, what the
Speaker 4: fuck are you official?
Speaker 1: Now? Still big country nigga track new. I wasn't going
Speaker 1: from shit. He good?
Speaker 3: You you good?
Speaker 1: You're glad niggas respected you.
Speaker 4: To let you like, I want to get a fit
Speaker 4: because us, Nigga, we would have stuck your big country
Speaker 4: ass and have been like, Nigga, you would have been like, oh,
Speaker 4: ain't what you up?
Speaker 1: It was? What day you came over into the backyard.
Speaker 1: You're to see about five six niggas in the backyard.
Speaker 1: You'd have been like, what's up? Eight Nigga today is today. Man,
Speaker 1: You know how they got the homies that boys today?
Speaker 1: They got the homie from Florida. So cold with that
Speaker 1: ship one time man, because he liked to go drinking
Speaker 1: with the motherfucker. See, I knew enough, we gonna go
Speaker 1: do this and do that. But certain situations, I'm not
Speaker 1: going over nobody's cribs at the barraecut in the backyard.
Speaker 3: He came home, Man, I didn't go. He came home.
Speaker 3: His eyes was swollen up.
Speaker 1: I said, what the fuck happened to you? Motherfucker? I
Speaker 1: want to grab my look.
Speaker 4: He said, no, Nigga's apcial now motherfucker's bank and with
Speaker 4: and I'm from the other now nigga, now what?
Speaker 1: And he was out there putting all kind of I
Speaker 1: think that motherfucker might have could have been out here
Speaker 1: like nigga. You could have been big, big country nigga,
Speaker 1: Nigger country Nigga. For you to play football over the country,
Speaker 1: large beach, insane nigga. Ad you and you you was
Speaker 1: raiders out wasn't you don't play? I ain't you had
Speaker 1: no raiders? You had nothing raiders Nigga over there with Fombi,
Speaker 1: I had a couple of baseball catch Ah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't know, mother for the exactly there he's an insane.
Speaker 1: Don't trip you big country insane.
Speaker 3: I still got my Raiders startersack shit, what man?
Speaker 1: The one thing about it ever? Did you ever wear
Speaker 1: some Steelers? I ain't. I'll see, so there it is.
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't like see that.
Speaker 1: Whyot, he's offessial insane. He wore he wore Raiders over
Speaker 1: there hanging with old bunch, and I got an old
Speaker 1: bunch of you know, and I ran with a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of blood class for a long time over there,
Speaker 1: but crawl from the members of my nigga crass for
Speaker 1: back my brother. But like I said, niggas usually got
Speaker 1: into the game banging shit because because.
Speaker 4: Usually when you get to when you get to mingling around,
Speaker 4: and especially when you wouldn't play in sport, because you know,
Speaker 4: out here the hood niggas be in the sports like
Speaker 4: a motherfucker, the youth sports and football and all that shit.
Speaker 4: Sot a lot of niggas, you know, the sons, and
Speaker 4: they shit. I didn't got into pretty plenty of confrontations
Speaker 4: at the youth games over the all mad filiations shit.
Speaker 1: Thinging is all lower youth football out and this motherfucker
Speaker 1: we was playing, motherfucking not Mona Park. What's the other
Speaker 1: neighborhood over the motherfuckers to wear the green ni the
Speaker 1: green and gold. What's the name of what's the name
Speaker 1: of the motherfucker's dog. I thought a motherfucker was gonna
Speaker 1: get the blowing out there that day. Dog. It was
Speaker 1: so thick dog the only big Bruce Say had his pistol. Women,
Speaker 1: it wasn't more, It's serious. It wasn't Mona Park, I forget.
Speaker 1: And this one motherfucker dog was walking across the motherfucker
Speaker 1: field looking at me like this, and I swear this
Speaker 1: motherfucker had a k up under his jacket. I looked.
Speaker 1: I said, man, we was about to get cracking. I
Speaker 1: grab homeyer, I said, no, that niggai, it's serious. Out
Speaker 1: of here.
Speaker 4: Shit up in there, man like that soul like just
Speaker 4: like I said, the gang banging and street ship. So
Speaker 4: when you consider gangster rap and street affiliated rap, I
Speaker 4: guess we try to change that narrative, uh to go
Speaker 4: to you know, we were just spitting reality because we
Speaker 4: caught a lot of uh, we caught a lot of
Speaker 4: flack and hard ship for not even Claytman shit Satan,
Speaker 4: We was gangster rappers. That was the title that you know,
Speaker 4: the media and people gave us. I never, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm a gangster rapper, just like Fownby said, I came
Speaker 4: out as counts most wanted now for the fact.
Speaker 1: That we were all just local little niggas. Yeah we know.
Speaker 1: The niggas was.
Speaker 4: Claiming track knew over there or gang banging or whatever.
Speaker 4: So it was no question, never no question about uh,
Speaker 4: you know, where was eight from was dubbed from? Where
Speaker 4: was Snoop or Dazz or corrupt or quick or you
Speaker 4: get me? Because niggas knew you lived here all your life.
Speaker 4: Niggasknew shit a lot of niggas. You start off you
Speaker 4: game bang.
Speaker 1: You speaking of Dazz that was kind of hogh that
Speaker 1: you so on? He said, yeah, fuck Dazz. Fuck I
Speaker 1: want to ask you that. Why you put dog Pune
Speaker 1: on your list?
Speaker 3: Oh, like I said, I thought the Chronic and Doggy
Speaker 3: Star are better than.
Speaker 1: Than dog Food. Yeah, well they was just guests on there,
Speaker 1: though I thought.
Speaker 3: I thought that to me, it is a big album,
Speaker 3: but to me, the other albums were better, and they're
Speaker 3: on them a lot, and they dazz In Corrupt in particular, made.
Speaker 4: Those albums and dyel that out of your top fifty
Speaker 4: their dog Food album wasn't sufficient enough to you as
Speaker 4: a top fifty gangster rap record because of their appearances, No.
Speaker 1: No, no Chronic. So you're saying those to you were
Speaker 1: better than your presentation of just y'all by y'allselves.
Speaker 3: I felt that the Chronic is better than and Doggy
Speaker 3: Style are better than dog Food, and so to me,
Speaker 3: to me when I heard them, that was to me
Speaker 3: them at their prime as far as those three albums.
Speaker 3: And then when I also thought that dog Food, I
Speaker 3: thought the other albums on my list I think are
Speaker 3: better albums. Doesn't mean I think dog Food's a bad
Speaker 3: album because it's a great album. I just thought that
Speaker 3: when I hear them, I don't feel like they're not included,
Speaker 3: because they are included. They're on two of the highest
Speaker 3: rited ranked albums on my list. So I never would
Speaker 3: have thought like dazs In Corrupt or not on here,
Speaker 3: because they are. They're on there multiple times, and they
Speaker 3: appear and help make those albums classics. They're part of
Speaker 3: the reason why I love those albums. So I didn't
Speaker 3: look at it like they're not represented, because they are represented.
Speaker 3: So I also happen to think that the other albums
Speaker 3: I named I Feel are better than dog Food.
Speaker 1: I thought dog Food was the ship man it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll have dog Food in my top fifty if
Speaker 4: I had a list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think dog Food, though I just think Man
Speaker 1: because me and Brown. Actually, you know, I can't remember.
Speaker 1: Behind the scenes, we were talking about that and he
Speaker 1: mationed one. What was the other album you mentioned, Brian,
Speaker 1: I could just think of that shit Nigga don like
Speaker 1: and I said that dog Brown was just thigging good
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 4: But you can't see me. I see through you so clearly.
Speaker 4: Think about what you gonna make me. I ain't not
Speaker 4: on the way home right there.
Speaker 3: I just remember that man, that beat us, That beat
Speaker 3: us incredible.
Speaker 1: That motherfucker shit. Have you ever heard of water?
Speaker 4: That's that ship was the ship I was getting paid,
Speaker 4: the fucking psycho, lighting nigga, that.
Speaker 1: R and slipping the slide, big pimp and let's play
Speaker 1: house all that ship man, Yeah, some bomb ass pussy
Speaker 1: all that man. That ship was hard. So loop Dash
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't sleep on your own, boy, I had,
Speaker 1: I liked. I like, I keep what you're saying because
Speaker 1: there was some songs that I could probably but I
Speaker 1: like the fucking living like Gangsters out from the Doll.
Speaker 1: That Motherfucker's Dog Pound had some ship dog dog Pound.
Speaker 1: I think, man dazzn't corrupt. Man.
Speaker 4: I say, if if I had a my top fifty,
Speaker 4: I would definitely have Sea Bowl in there. I would
Speaker 4: definitely have Dog Pound in there. It's it's hard, though, yeah,
Speaker 4: because you want to like, you don't want to disrespect
Speaker 4: no one, but you want to stay on that you know,
Speaker 4: that gangster you know, because like I said, that's the
Speaker 4: title they gave us. So we don't want to take
Speaker 4: nothing away from nobody who we feel has a street
Speaker 4: mentality album.
Speaker 1: You know, not more or less targeting the gangster shit.
Speaker 1: But no.
Speaker 3: Plus, I mean, I've spent a lot of time with
Speaker 3: let me listen.
Speaker 4: First of all, niggas need to you know, really be
Speaker 4: able to value criticism. Oh yeah, for sure, our people's
Speaker 4: opinions of what music meant to them growing up through
Speaker 4: the life. You get me more fucking you know, Soaring
Speaker 4: came from you know, Maryland. You know, he he you know,
Speaker 4: he really put his you know, his thought and what
Speaker 4: he felt like.
Speaker 1: To him. You get me.
Speaker 4: This ship don't necessarily mean, but I think Brian him
Speaker 4: or any other motherfucking nigga who doesn't put a list
Speaker 4: up on these Rolling Stone pages. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: because I sat and seen some ship like that and
Speaker 4: was like, oh, these motherfuckers are dumb.
Speaker 1: The fucker that that would definitely say that Me and
Speaker 1: sore As listen way more efficient than anyone member.
Speaker 4: Well, I think because y'all basically we try to touch
Speaker 4: on not so much of the commercialism of hip hop.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I look at it purely for the art.
Speaker 4: When you get with these motherfuckers like the Rolling Stones
Speaker 4: and the motherfucking and you know, the big play to
Speaker 4: play advertisements and shit, it's kind of hilarious because some
Speaker 4: of these motherfuckers don't even be past thirty years old,
Speaker 4: so for them to be able to judge the history
Speaker 4: of hip hop, Hey, fuck it, it's your personal favorite.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not value as far as law. You
Speaker 1: get me.
Speaker 4: It ain't like, oh fuck it, they put up this
Speaker 4: list and it's just solidified, like the fucking Ten Commandments.
Speaker 4: You get me, and what we say here is presented
Speaker 4: the top fifty and niggas you can't you can't break
Speaker 4: the combatant if they say this is this fuck it,
Speaker 4: he just hit the.
Speaker 1: Computer in the beg and turned the damn thing. Then
Speaker 1: get about yeah yeah what luck?
Speaker 4: Wait yeah, well we ain't doing the uh the ocean,
Speaker 4: pacifics and ship. You know, I where where them niggas at? Man,
Speaker 4: they got oceans and clefts and ship behind them.
Speaker 1: It would be nice like a nigga, what a hood?
Speaker 1: This nigga? What streets? Ship? Them niggas allgas? And that's
Speaker 1: what I want to say to to me, there could
Speaker 1: be no wrong or no right list because music is
Speaker 1: such a personal experience, man. I mean yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, like some of them albums
Speaker 1: in there, man, like touch my Bike, because I could
Speaker 1: think about whenever I listen to any one of them
Speaker 1: albums on there, I could think about specific moments in
Speaker 1: my life right to where I might have been doing something,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, whether that's me riding with
Speaker 1: one of my kids or whatever, or just hanging out
Speaker 1: one of the homies who may not be here no
Speaker 1: more like uh, And I will say the thug life
Speaker 1: out of meals and personal shit. For me, me and
Speaker 1: Big Psych was really good friends. Cycle was like my brother.
Speaker 1: Definically we was like that was like my It was
Speaker 1: a time a to where I swear if I wouldn't
Speaker 1: hid in Psych, Psyche was hit me big still with
Speaker 1: a dowe baby.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's just how it is about me and
Speaker 4: Scarface and me and Spice, or me and DJ Premier,
Speaker 4: our personal relationships with my niggas. So I'm gonna be
Speaker 4: biased when they come to Spice, Scarface, h and Gang Starre,
Speaker 4: DJ Premier.
Speaker 1: You get me. You can't. You can't fight me on that.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 4: So of course, you know you got personal relationships. You know,
Speaker 4: used to be around niggas all the time, so you
Speaker 4: you valued they motherfucking music being in the studio recordings
Speaker 4: or so why wouldn't you recognize thug life?
Speaker 1: You feel me? But you know what I got, And
Speaker 1: I got two of Spice's albums in there. I mean
Speaker 1: I got the first one and I got one of
Speaker 1: the siven Proof I always go almost slipping the self
Speaker 1: titled one.
Speaker 3: That was hard as that.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 1: The one eighty seven record was the ship Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: spicyes O motherfucker vote verst one one.
Speaker 4: I mean the second one was the Ship too that
Speaker 4: we did the murder show on he had He had
Speaker 4: the motherfucking the song with motherfucking Boss on there and
Speaker 4: Banks with when.
Speaker 3: That's a great album and I just love especially because.
Speaker 1: With the clip and the trigger screaming like eight yelling
Speaker 1: come on nigga, and.
Speaker 3: He had the stutter flow on there. That was so crazy.
Speaker 4: One eight one at seven and this is that murder,
Speaker 4: that murderer he wrote one man, come on man. Spikes
Speaker 4: had some ship on the album. The first album was
Speaker 4: The Killer, the one eighty seventh Proof, the Young Nigga,
Speaker 4: The in My Neighborhood.
Speaker 3: Is Man Spicy album.
Speaker 1: His first album was the Spice is gonna hit you
Speaker 1: with two or three different flows. He hits you with
Speaker 1: a little study step. I got to get the gout
Speaker 1: to get the going. Now that ship with the actor
Speaker 1: has heard that.
Speaker 4: I said, I'm the crag House, the crack house. They
Speaker 4: can running out the crack house Nigga. That nigga has
Speaker 4: some ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Man, Spicy, it's classic spice Pie has some classic
Speaker 1: dog And that's aeother thing if you if you're an
Speaker 1: artist and now on this list. That don't mean that
Speaker 1: we don't think.
Speaker 4: How nigga sent us your lists, Ship and anybody. That's
Speaker 4: our telling, nigga, it's just our opinion. Like I said,
Speaker 4: we I've done records for thousands of years, Sowing has
Speaker 4: done interviews and written still has been in the publishing
Speaker 4: and fucked with motherfuckers, and so we just feel out
Speaker 4: our opinions we have, you know, not an advantage, but
Speaker 4: niggas's knowledge.
Speaker 1: You know what I don't like because I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you this. You know who had a cold lass? Who
Speaker 1: got classics too? Jay? Your feeling? I saw him, you know,
Speaker 1: Jail was up in there. He said they had project
Speaker 1: pat twice. I can see Jail right now. I can
Speaker 1: see him all going on, man, fuck that cud. This
Speaker 1: is the thing, and this is what I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: This is the thing.
Speaker 4: When you do a list and the list is coming
Speaker 4: from significant West Coast representation hip hop, a lot of
Speaker 4: West Coast artists is gonna probably be a little offended
Speaker 4: when they go, how can you say gangster rap?
Speaker 1: Nigga? And you ain't gonna know this. You ain't gonna
Speaker 1: know this, right, Nigga.
Speaker 4: I'm from San Diego from forties and I'm from path
Speaker 4: in this and I'm from Long Beach this and Nigga,
Speaker 4: my records was on point.
Speaker 1: Everybody aldy motherfucker dog jay Ao Asid Waller, he has
Speaker 1: their pity me of gangster shit. That's all I say.
Speaker 1: You can do records like sharms stick and shit like.
Speaker 3: That, focus on the focus on his.
Speaker 1: Own has hood shit, man, Niggas don't niggas niggas in
Speaker 1: the hood. Doug at shurance and she got me, nigga,
Speaker 1: go Joiner's cigarette right now and be on the block
Speaker 1: high as a motherfucker.
Speaker 4: You know, it's certain songs that niggas knew. You get
Speaker 4: me like, oh, this is gonna resonate good with the
Speaker 4: neighborhood because even though a nigga talking about some dope shit,
Speaker 4: just like you know how the youngsters do now talk
Speaker 4: about popping you a perky or fucking whatever, dang banging
Speaker 4: ass niggas not all of us, but it was a
Speaker 4: lot of niggas in the hood were smooking shining. So
Speaker 4: for somebody who you know is significantly spoke on West
Speaker 4: Coast gang culture, you feel me. Of course you're gonna
Speaker 4: get a job like nigga project Pat nigga. I'm from
Speaker 4: San Diego, nigga forty this nigga, what the fuck? So,
Speaker 4: you know, no disrespect like I said, all my camrades, crips, bloods,
Speaker 4: you know, no disrespect. Still got his opinion. He's a
Speaker 4: Cleveland native, but he done stomped around this motherfucker long
Speaker 4: enough to where you know his opinion is his nigga fuck.
Speaker 4: You know, same thing with sowing, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: radio shit, numerous interviews, videos, blogs, fucking whatever. He's then
Speaker 4: met a.
Speaker 1: Lot of us as far as it's hitting that way,
Speaker 1: ain't And you know what, man, the thing fields like,
Speaker 1: especially you know, just going back to jail right for
Speaker 1: a minute, right, I don't think people understand when you're
Speaker 1: putting these lists together how hard that shit is, because.
Speaker 4: You take, honestly, some niggas might just be just I
Speaker 4: forgot damn you get it because you really be trying
Speaker 4: to put your thinking in.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm thinking, and I'm not gonna lie because
Speaker 1: I thought about you know, how you writings. I had
Speaker 1: about it eighty songs. When that motherfucker I was going
Speaker 1: back and forth.
Speaker 3: I was like, what, man, all this and that I
Speaker 3: came up with about seventy seven right off the top
Speaker 3: of my head, like it was nothing.
Speaker 1: And then you gotta push the visions and like I
Speaker 1: told somebody because somebody said, man, you didn't put master
Speaker 1: p Ghetto d on there this, And I said, you
Speaker 1: know what, man, I had the motherfucker their dog.
Speaker 4: But just as that nigga hit me about my nigga threat,
Speaker 4: like I ain't got deadly thread up there.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, that's what I wouldn't go do.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of cast now. I when we was
Speaker 1: doing singles, it'd be a lot of people that got
Speaker 1: classic songs, right, but they don't necessarily have classic albums.
Speaker 1: And that's's just the.
Speaker 3: Other thing too. It's like these are when I was
Speaker 3: looking at the list and I'm coming up with my ideas,
Speaker 3: these are albums. So if it's got twelve songs, ten songs,
Speaker 3: eighteen songs, the all eighteen gotta be of the caliber
Speaker 3: of the other fifty albums. So like when you listen
Speaker 3: to you know, music to drive By or the Chronic
Speaker 3: or Death Certificate, what songs are you cutting off those
Speaker 3: to say, oh, these aren't good songs?
Speaker 1: Like you can't do it.
Speaker 3: Whereas some of the albums that didn't make my list,
Speaker 3: that might have been in the fifties or the sixties
Speaker 3: or the seventies, there's three or four songs some of
Speaker 3: them maybe five songs where I love ten of them,
Speaker 3: but these other songs, I'm like, eh, I would miss them.
Speaker 3: Whereas on my top fifty and the higher you get,
Speaker 3: there's fewer and fewer instances where Man, those three or
Speaker 3: four songs or we all know, some people be like, man,
Speaker 3: I even listen to the first half of the album, Well,
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: Even when I wrote songs, man, I wasn't thinking about
Speaker 4: the other crowd. I was thinking about gang banging, niggas
Speaker 4: in the hoods struggling, right, I never because they were focused.
Speaker 4: I didn't try to you know, Oh fuck it. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna get the white people, the Chinese. I'm gonna get
Speaker 4: mess sykins, nigga. I'm like, nigga, whoever struggling, can't you
Speaker 4: get a job and over on the block every night
Speaker 4: selling got niggas enemy shooting at you. That's who I'm
Speaker 4: miting music for cause I'm fella.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I feel you, man. And one thing I
Speaker 1: was gonna say before I forget on that thud Wife album,
Speaker 1: I had the privilege actually hearing the unedited version, because
Speaker 1: you know, Interscope butchered that album and it was really
Speaker 1: a short album too. Yeah, I was surprised, No, but
Speaker 1: they had a lot of songs that was took off
Speaker 1: of there. Like you gotta remember Spice one was on
Speaker 1: that motherfucker. They had songs with Spice. They had a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of shit that wasn't doing that because you
Speaker 1: gotta remember, at that time, Interscope was scared than the motherfucker, right,
Speaker 1: You had a bunch of shit going on, and they
Speaker 1: was like, hey, oh no this motherfucker man, sight played
Speaker 1: me that motherfucker.
Speaker 7: Dog.
Speaker 1: We's on our way over to Dubai. We's in the plane,
Speaker 1: and I heard the whole motherfucker, like, just all the
Speaker 1: songs from them sessions. Dog. They asked some dope ass
Speaker 1: motherfucker songs. Dog. Really, you got to hear a shell
Speaker 1: of what the album was. Hmm.
Speaker 11: Too bad they had some dope ass records. I wish
Speaker 11: I could have heard the real the intended version, intended version,
Speaker 11: you know what, man, and I had to put all
Speaker 11: lives on me on that Dog.
Speaker 1: I actually went back and revisited that Dog. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that should have been one album, to be honest
Speaker 1: with you. But they had a bunch of dope songs
Speaker 1: on there, absolutely, And what was crazy is some of
Speaker 1: the most banging his songs on that album was really
Speaker 1: songs that was gonna be for Dash and Corrupt Carol
Speaker 1: Mine made Up? Was Mine? Made Up?
Speaker 3: Was a dog Pound song? Makes sense.
Speaker 1: Dads was just on his ship at that time. Man
Speaker 1: Dad is still a very underrated producer.
Speaker 3: I think absolutely well, Like I have said, what would
Speaker 3: you do? Nothing but the Calvey hit, Dad's got some
Speaker 3: some hitters.
Speaker 4: Hey, you ain't ever gotten no knew with Dash? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I've gotten I Gotta saw, I got a single. Me
Speaker 4: and Dads did a video on everything when I was
Speaker 4: signed The Sauny hit the Floor. And then I was
Speaker 4: on Dasher's album Retaliation, Revengeine Get Back. That was a
Speaker 4: great alt him and uh Me, him and Badass got
Speaker 4: a song together, Retaliation Revenge and get Back with the
Speaker 4: ultimate come up Nigga, nigga, get out, get in, get up,
Speaker 4: get your.
Speaker 1: Money the man. That whole video is gonna be fucked up.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Man, Get in, get up, get your money. It's the
Speaker 4: ultimate come up. He'll slanging and banging all my ConA
Speaker 4: fucker ground and you might be a doling nigga. Get out,
Speaker 4: get in, Get up, Well, man.
Speaker 1: I guess suh, that's it. I guess that's the end
Speaker 1: of the show for the night. We gonna check y'all
Speaker 1: out next week. Man, you know Thanksgiving next week, so
Speaker 1: we still will have something in store for you, specially
Speaker 1: little three. We gonna put something together, real special, man,
Speaker 1: to get you to your holiday and everything else. Man,
Speaker 1: we out here. Well. That concludes another episode of the
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