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Speaker 1: Five minutes early. Right, how's everyone doing? Welcome? This is.

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Speaker 2: This to me, there's nothing like watching our guys compete

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Speaker 2: on Sundays or Thursdays or Mondays. We play a lot

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Speaker 2: But to me, this is really my favorite time of

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Speaker 1: As much as anything we do.

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Speaker 2: When you look at you know, the guys I call

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Speaker 2: our unsung heroes, our scouts, our R and D department,

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Speaker 2: our salary cap people, our medical our player engagement, our

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Speaker 2: video people. Everyone is involved, our coaches, our personnel. Everyone

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Speaker 2: is involved, everyone has heard. Everyone comes together, and I'm

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Speaker 2: really proud of the process and proud. I do want

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Speaker 2: to mention some of those scouts because they, like I said,

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Speaker 2: they often go unnoticed behind the scenes. And we've got

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Speaker 2: a tremendous college scouting staff. So we'll start with the

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Speaker 2: guy who now is our director player personnel. But tarka Maud,

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Speaker 2: you know, for this draft class, has really been the

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Speaker 2: director of college scouting, and Tark does a tremendous job.

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Speaker 2: Or Jay Gillen has really contributed in a big way

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Speaker 2: to this. Our assistant director of College Scouting, Justin Chabbott,

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Speaker 2: has been with the Niners forever. Our national Scouts, Chip Flanagan,

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Speaker 2: Josh Williams, and Dom DeCicco Area Scout starting on the

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Speaker 2: scouting assistants. They're too young to get a shout out,

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Speaker 2: but they do a tremendous job. And Jesse Sayamalu, our

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Speaker 1: Uh. They they work tirelessly on this.

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Speaker 2: And you know the reason being, you know, when I

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Speaker 2: what happens if a game breaks out and that's the

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Speaker 2: same thing as the draft. You've got to be nimble,

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Speaker 2: you've got to be flexible so that you can react

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Speaker 1: And that's why you have to be prepared.

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Speaker 2: And we're extremely prepared and ready and looking forward to

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Speaker 2: the opportunity. You know, to me, what the draft signifies,

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Speaker 2: it's an opportunity to improve your organization, to infuse youth,

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Speaker 2: to infuse competition, to infuse speed, to infuse toughness, dependability,

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Speaker 2: all the things that we really covet. This is an

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Speaker 2: And uh with that, you know, I'll open up questions

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Speaker 2: and before you know, questions, you know, I know a

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Speaker 2: couple of years ago, there was a lot of talk

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Speaker 2: we're working through that. And you know as such, you know,

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Speaker 2: I was a player once and I never liked my

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Speaker 2: to respect that. I'm not going to speak for their side.

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Speaker 2: Can say we're having good talks and I'm just going

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Speaker 1: The draft here today.

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Speaker 2: But that's that's just want to understand you guys have

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Speaker 2: with that, open up for questions.

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Speaker 1: There you go the first question.

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Speaker 2: We communicate well, and we love the guy, so thank you.

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Speaker 1: He is not Yeah, he's not here right now now.

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Speaker 4: At all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, we received calls about a lot of players.

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Speaker 2: To I'm not I'm not going to get in all

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Speaker 4: Said years of our contract.

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Speaker 5: They went into the summer later, they impacted the way

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Speaker 2: Get something done with that, Yeah, I think that's important.

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Speaker 1: So those guys said that, you know, it kind of

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Speaker 4: Guys that are back in the building.

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Speaker 6: And you guys being back, you're not that far removed

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Speaker 4: Do you feel a sense of excitement? Is there any

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Speaker 2: No, And that's that's important. Tracy of the We've got

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Speaker 2: You know, our our organization was heartbroken, but like I

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Speaker 2: And the players, you know, they they went through the

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Speaker 6: Spot at thirty one where sometimes teams try to trade

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Speaker 6: Have you had any sort of ground laying the groundwork

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Speaker 2: My experience, Matt is that that happened some owners meetings,

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Speaker 2: be an interesting year. I think it's an interesting draft class.

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Speaker 2: I was just looking at my notes and you know,

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Speaker 2: going to be in this draft. So eighty three players

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Speaker 2: And how that affects this draft, it's it's going to

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Speaker 2: but it is providing competition, and you know, that's that's

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Speaker 1: Three in addition to that, you know.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, but you know, it's a it's a different dynamic,

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Speaker 2: and it's it's something the whole league's going to deal with.

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Speaker 4: What's your philosophy on trading down in the draft, particularly early?

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Speaker 2: good thought. But those are the things you got to

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Speaker 2: prepare for all these scenarios, and we'll see where that goes.

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Speaker 2: I think thirty one is an interesting spot kind of

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Speaker 2: where Matt was going. I think the end of day one,

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Speaker 2: imagine there'll be some calls and we'll be open and flexible.

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Speaker 2: We've done it, you know, both ways, in a variety

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Speaker 2: only way you do that is being prepared for everything.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Nick.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you guys always say you don't have thirty two

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Speaker 4: How many guys do you have with first round grades

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Speaker 8: And does that the fact that you're unlikely to have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not at thirty two this year.

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Speaker 2: But still, I mean, when you know, when we like players,

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Speaker 2: we basically we get out and run and we ask

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Speaker 2: our guys we don't want any hesitation. We want you

439
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Speaker 2: going and being the initiators. And that's not a lot

440
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Speaker 2: of what you're seeing in college football. So you're absolutely right.

441
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Speaker 2: There is a lot of projection when it comes to

442
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Speaker 2: a line play. And so, yeah, identify the traits that

443
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Speaker 2: we want. You identify the spirit of the players that

444
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Speaker 2: are the guys that we want. But offensive line, I think,

445
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Speaker 2: league wide, not just with us, it's becoming tougher. I

446
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Speaker 2: think the tempo with which teams play, it's not a

447
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Speaker 2: lot about finishing the.

448
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Speaker 1: Play they're on.

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Speaker 2: It's about let's get back to the line of scrimmage

450
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Speaker 2: so we can look over and read this card they're

451
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Speaker 2: holding up to see what play we're running next. It's

452
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Speaker 2: not a lot of beautiful football being played there. And

453
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Speaker 2: and so you know that that is tough. And John Feliciano,

454
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Speaker 2: what we did know is that he every place he went,

455
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Speaker 2: he seemed to make that organization a little bit better.

456
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Speaker 2: Offensive line is a group where it takes a special breed,

457
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Speaker 2: a human being, and John is is that guy, and

458
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Speaker 2: he connects people at that spot and he's got a

459
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Speaker 2: lot of versatility. He's been a real good player for us.

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Speaker 11: There was kind of a trend in football where the

461
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Speaker 11: defensive line athleticism. There was outpitcing what was happening on

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Speaker 11: the offensive line. But do you see kind of a

463
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Speaker 11: reversion now with offensive linemen. You've mentioned you liked a

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Speaker 11: lot of offensive linemen now.

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Speaker 2: Is there Yeah, I hope so, because it's a real,

466
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Speaker 2: you know issue, it did. It did feel for a

467
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Speaker 2: long time man, the guys on the defensive side of

468
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Speaker 2: the ball, and I think a lot of it was

469
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Speaker 2: just the way we train our old lineman now, you know,

470
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Speaker 2: they because I think developing offensive linement helps with a

471
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Speaker 2: lot of grassroot fundamentals, you know, physicality in the youth

472
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Speaker 2: is we're probably getting smarter and taking a lot of

473
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Speaker 2: contact and a lot of the old school drills that

474
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Speaker 2: build offensive line play and the running game and playing

475
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Speaker 2: not the spread out game that you see so much

476
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Speaker 2: and everything being about how many plays you can run

477
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Speaker 2: instead of how well you can run those plays. I

478
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Speaker 2: think offensive line play did take take its lumps. I

479
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Speaker 2: do feel like there's a little bit of a comeback happening,

480
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Speaker 2: and it's probably survival.

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Speaker 1: We're paying these guys that much. We understand the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We can't.

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Speaker 2: This isn't sustainable, and you know, I think you always

484
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Speaker 2: follow the money to an offensive linemen are getting played

485
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Speaker 2: paid pretty well, and kids kind of gravitate towards the

486
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Speaker 2: position where that happens. And maybe we're getting some basketball

487
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Speaker 2: players starting to do that and a bunch of different vehicles.

488
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Speaker 2: But I hope that's the case, because it did feel

489
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Speaker 2: for a while like we're not gonna be to do this.

490
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Speaker 1: And us.

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Speaker 9: Outside of all of us feeling very old with all

492
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Speaker 9: the legacy guys coming out, what is your thought on

493
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Speaker 9: guys like Jerry Rice's.

494
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Speaker 4: Son, Yeah, and at MacCaffrey son coming out.

495
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Speaker 1: Well, I believe in bloodlines, I really do.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's uh, I think there's evidence

497
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Speaker 2: that you should now that can't then you've got to

498
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Speaker 2: step away from that and you gotta, uh, you got

499
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Speaker 2: to evaluate it.

500
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Speaker 1: And that's sometimes difficult to do.

501
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Speaker 2: And that's why a lot of different eyes, a lot

502
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Speaker 2: of different uh perspectives, And that's that's what we try

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Speaker 2: to do when we when we have our R and

504
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Speaker 2: D look at it, we have our coaches look at it,

505
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Speaker 2: we have our scouting look at it.

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Speaker 1: You know, we try to hit it from a variety.

507
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Speaker 2: Of of of measuring points and inflection points as to

508
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Speaker 2: how you grade these guys because you don't want to

509
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Speaker 2: do it just off that that that wouldn't be smart.

510
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Speaker 2: But you know, these guys, you know that, Yeah, there's

511
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Speaker 2: some inherent pressure on who their dad is, but there's

512
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Speaker 2: also some good genes and and uh, you know, and

513
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Speaker 2: I think that matters. And so, uh, it's exciting that

514
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Speaker 2: you have all these great I mean, we're talking Hall

515
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Speaker 2: of Fame players and great players and you know, brothers

516
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Speaker 2: of players, and it's it's really fun.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 2: T O was out here at the local pro day

519
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Speaker 2: and his son Tarika, you know, performed really well and

520
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Speaker 2: that was that was pretty cool. And you could I

521
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Speaker 2: saw him running at me and I played against t

522
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Speaker 2: O a lot, and there was some in that stride.

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Speaker 1: That was very familiar, you know.

524
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Speaker 2: It was it was something about the gate and it's

525
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Speaker 2: crazy how those things translate.

526
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Speaker 1: You know. It's is that just gene pool?

527
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Speaker 2: Is that modeling that they watched their dad? You know,

528
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Speaker 2: it's just it's interesting to me and uh, but it's

529
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Speaker 2: a fun element to this year's draft that I that

530
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Speaker 2: I think is it's going to be interesting to watch

531
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Speaker 2: to see how it unfolds.

532
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's up?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, contract questions, I was going to ask wrong.

534
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Speaker 4: Any chance he is not on this roster of.

535
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Speaker 2: Friday, I wouldn't anticipate that. You know, Yeah, Larry.

536
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Speaker 8: You were a big hitter as a player, and I'm

537
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Speaker 8: just kind of wonder safeties evolved. When you're watching film,

538
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Speaker 8: are you looking for a guy that detonates and blows

539
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 8: people up like you were? Or's the game now changed

540
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Speaker 8: where you're looking for coverage guys?

541
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I might be in jail if you know if

542
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: with today's rules, so like you have to change. But

543
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Speaker 2: I always believe, you know, people say oftentimes like you

544
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Speaker 2: couldn't play in today's Well that goes for a lot

545
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 2: of players, and I think players that are good players,

546
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Speaker 2: they adjust to the rules. That's how we played then,

547
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Speaker 2: so is phyl Physicality is still part of that absolutely,

548
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Speaker 2: and you know kind of an are who we are

549
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Speaker 2: as a team. We're a physical team, and so you

550
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Speaker 2: stay out like a sore thumb when you're not physical

551
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: and you don't play physical, And so I think there

552
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 2: has to be now there's a proper way and a

553
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: proper technique that guys have gotten a lot better.

554
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Speaker 1: Now you're seeing this hip drop.

555
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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's physical, I think it's actually

556
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 2: because they've taken so many different elements. If you can't

557
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 2: hit them from the front, people are going to come

558
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 2: up with different ways. They started selling and teaching rugby

559
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 2: style technique. Well a lot of that rugby style technique

560
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Speaker 2: that the league was trumpeting has led to this technique

561
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Speaker 2: called the hip drop. That is it's a real thing.

562
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Speaker 2: It's happening, and so you know the you know the

563
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Speaker 2: I understand it. There are some players that play extremely

564
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Speaker 2: physical physically and are big players, and it's been a

565
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 2: challenge for him in today's football, so you have to

566
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: factor that in. But I think the best players find

567
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: ways to play within the rules and still make their

568
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 2: presence known on that field. And that's part of being

569
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Speaker 2: a good player.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so thank you, Alfred.

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Speaker 3: Yeah,