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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, there's a little bit

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Speaker 1: more activity around the building. Players are back working out,

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Speaker 1: some of been here, others are returning, and yes, not

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Speaker 1: everyone is here. Let's remember it is voluntary. The offseason

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Speaker 1: strengthen conditioning program is not a requirement. The players who

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Speaker 1: are here, like a James Conner, AJ Green, JJ Watt,

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Speaker 1: last season, specifically how last season ended weighs heavily on

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Speaker 1: their minds. But first a new face and a heck

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Speaker 1: of a new name to learn. It's Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: episode five fifty five, and it starts now. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two with Craig grigolew and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals

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Speaker 1: in a touchdown, DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolu and Mike Jareckie.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to do my best here, MJ. And

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Speaker 1: this is where all these years in the business should

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Speaker 1: come into play. All right, here goes hey guy, chase

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Speaker 1: him undubc. How do I do very well? All right?

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Speaker 1: Because I went to a pronunciation and that was exactly

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Speaker 1: how the last name was, I guess, not spelled, but

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Speaker 1: how it was worded. All right, pronunciation. Bottom line. The

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Speaker 1: this young kid out of Nigeria, twenty one years old. Yes,

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Speaker 1: bird gang, he is very very raw. But the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: he is and literally that's like that that's his first name.

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Speaker 1: derogatory or anything like that. Hey guys, that's how he

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Speaker 1: Hey guy, all right, So maybe that sticks started playing

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Speaker 1: football only five years ago. But the story behind the

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Speaker 1: story is fascinating. It is up on asy cardinals dot com.

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Speaker 1: Embedded in the story is a ten minute video on

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Speaker 1: the Uprise Academy in Africa. Again, I'll say it, he

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Speaker 1: gag much like Bernhard Psychovits a year ago, that you

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's not this season, but perhaps practice squad or

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Speaker 1: which this means everything to this young kid. Now he

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Speaker 1: news is, you know, he's young. Obviously he started playing

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Speaker 1: Now is that week one potential? I don't think so yet.

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Speaker 1: and upcoming episodes of Cardinals Flight Plan presented by Sea Geek.

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Speaker 1: Episode one here of season five has been published has

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Speaker 1: been released. If you will you go to the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: episode one, titled card cores the beginnings of this offseason

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's you know, and he's a great leader

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Speaker 1: on and off the field. And you know, I like

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Speaker 1: what he said. You know, he wants this the stadium

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Speaker 1: to be like family on game day. He wants you

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Speaker 1: to go out there and be like family. This is

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Speaker 1: we're all in this together, so to speak. According to

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Speaker 1: JJ Wytte quote, I love it here. He talked about

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Speaker 1: the weather being a huge factor working on natural grass,

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Speaker 1: things that you have continually brought up as far as

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Speaker 1: why veterans like to play in this state or with

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Speaker 1: this team because of the weather and you're in natural

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Speaker 1: grass and your home games are indoors. Sure you can

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Speaker 1: open up the roof, but bottom line is everything is

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Speaker 1: controlled and four players that want to extend their career

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Speaker 1: or maybe have another body of the apple, if you will,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals are a very attractive destination. Yeah, and and

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Speaker 1: really it's besides the weather. And obviously you know you

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Speaker 1: look at Aj Green, he dealt with foot issues and

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Speaker 1: ankles because they're playing on turf. And obviously, you know,

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Speaker 1: I had a still had an outstanding career here. I

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Speaker 1: just feel like, you know, and we've been here long

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Speaker 1: enough to where I don't know if it's three hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty five days, but when you walk outside and

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Speaker 1: you feel that sun on it, you feel good. Like

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland it's snowing, Green Bay it's snowing, and you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously you got to go where you're wanted. But I

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Speaker 1: do think the lifestyle and bringing their families here. It's

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Speaker 1: Zach Kurtz loves it, Green loves it, what loves it,

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Speaker 1: So that got a lot going for him. But at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's about fit and asking price.

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Speaker 1: By the way, MJ, we are just days days, a

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Speaker 1: little more than a handful of days away from the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two NFL Draft and a reminder Bird Gang.

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Speaker 1: For the first time since twenty nineteen, the Cardinals are

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Speaker 1: hosting a draft party presented by Arizona four Dealers, on

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Speaker 1: the Great Lawn outside State Farm Stadium Thursday, April twenty eighth,

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Speaker 1: from four to nine. Admission parking are both free. There'll

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Speaker 1: be a kids interactive zone, autographs, entertainment. There will be

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Speaker 1: a special post draft fireworks show following the completion of

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Speaker 1: the first round. But for the first time in three years,

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Speaker 1: Bird gang can gather celebrates and welcome the Cardinals first

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Speaker 1: round draft pick. Yeah. The last time was Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: and of course they had the first overall pick, and

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Speaker 1: then following year they had the eighth overall pick and

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Speaker 1: they took Simmons, and then last year the sixteenth overall pick.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be twenty three got away a little while. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And will they move up? I think it's gonna be pricey.

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Speaker 1: Would they move back to pick up an extra third

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Speaker 1: round pick? Now? This is fascinating. It's just from field

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Speaker 1: y eights. Eight teams with two first round picks Lions, Texans, Jets, Giants, Eagles, Saints, Packers,

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Speaker 1: and Chiefs. Eight teams with no first round picks, Rams, Browns, Broncos, Barris, Colts,

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers. Maybe that changes Dolphins, Raiders. Yeah, tomorrow's

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Speaker 1: a week away, Craig. It's unbelievable because at one time

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Speaker 1: the Eagles did have three first round picks and the

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Speaker 1: Saints only one. Now the Eagles with two and the

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Speaker 1: Saints with two. But yeah, eight teams don't have a

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Speaker 1: first round draft pick, and eight teams have two first

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Speaker 1: round drafts, and the Lions have two and thirty two,

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Speaker 1: Texans have three and thirteen, Jets have four and ten,

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Speaker 1: Giants five and seven. Man you can get some plug

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Speaker 1: and play players there. Eagles fifteen and eighteen, Saints sixteen

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Speaker 1: and nineteen. Do they move up, Packers twenty and twenty

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Speaker 1: eight just before the Cardinals picking at twenty three and

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs twenty nine and thirty. So these teams will

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Speaker 1: be wiggling. If there's a certain player they want, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna take it. But the teams that have these four

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Speaker 1: and ten and five to seven, fifteen and eighteen, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get a quality player because I think when you

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Speaker 1: get to twenty twenty five you can probably get the

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Speaker 1: same player, maybe a different position. At forty five. You

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Speaker 1: mentioned the forty nine ers. Don't forget also the Rams

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Speaker 1: do not have a first round draft pick. When you

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Speaker 1: look within the division now, once upon a time, the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals are the only team without a first round draft pick.

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Speaker 1: That changed with the Russell Wilson trade to the Denver

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Speaker 1: Broncos to the Seahawks selecting number nine overall. So if

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Speaker 1: you kind of want to pay attention to what the

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Speaker 1: rest of the division is doing. I'll have to do

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Speaker 1: is pay attention to the Seahawks at least on day

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Speaker 1: one now with respect to the draft and activity going

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Speaker 1: on out near State Farm Stadium Saturday April thirtieth, the

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Speaker 1: Draft weekend Country Concert on the Great Lawn at State

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Speaker 1: Farm Stadium for more information and go to Sportsmen's Park

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Speaker 1: AZ dot com in attendance or performing, I should say,

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Speaker 1: Ryan heard Lanko and Callista Clark again. That is Saturday,

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Speaker 1: April thirtieth, the Great Lawn at State Farm Stadium. Go

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Speaker 1: to Sportsmen's Park AZ dot com. All right, we continue

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Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday, proud partner

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. A little bit of a detour,

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Speaker 1: if you will, when we talk about the draft with

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Speaker 1: the respects to the Cardinals and what they may or

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Speaker 1: may not do. If you missed any of our countdown

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Speaker 1: Mike Drecki's top fifth the Draft prospects his big board,

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Speaker 1: and go back into the archives. We will do more

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Speaker 1: draft obviously, but because that the offseason strengthen conditioning program

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Speaker 1: has begun. Because aj Green addressed the media, we had

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Speaker 1: a chance to hear from James Connor and JJ Watts.

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Speaker 1: What those three players mentioned and what they said on

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Speaker 1: all three, Let's repeat at MJ, because you've been on

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Speaker 1: this from the get go, all three, James Conner, AJ Green,

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Speaker 1: JJ Watt going into their second year with the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Year one, JJ Watt, Yeah, he got hurt. But outside

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Speaker 1: of that, I think it was a solid first year

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Speaker 1: for all three. Can they repeat that? Maybe not so

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Speaker 1: much in numbers, but I do believe they'll be more comfortable,

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Speaker 1: more confidence and what is being asked to them within

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Speaker 1: this offense and defense respectively. Yeah, they're more familiar with

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Speaker 1: each other, and I think, you know, we talk about

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Speaker 1: guys making a junk from year one to two as

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Speaker 1: a draft pick and then from year two to three,

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Speaker 1: and I think we've seen that from Jalen Thompson and

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Speaker 1: Byron Murphy. Hopefully that happens with a guy like Marco Wilson,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a second or third year. Zach Allen's ready

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Speaker 1: to come in and start on the defensive line. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's to a situation where I'm curious to see,

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Speaker 1: you know, by them having Jeff gladdenee on the rosters

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Speaker 1: is a corner or priority, because I've been fixated on

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Speaker 1: you gotta be able to cover that eleven personnel with

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Speaker 1: the rams. You can not let these guys get right open,

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Speaker 1: and then you got to get pressure up front. So

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Speaker 1: it'd be interested to just see how they they decide

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Speaker 1: to do things. But you know, according to Steve Kim

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Speaker 1: in the flight plan, he thinks Gladden he can be

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Speaker 1: a starter. Now the good news is he could play

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Speaker 1: inside and outside. So if they want to move Murph inside,

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Speaker 1: then you have Marco Wilson, and then hopefully they'll retain

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Speaker 1: Robert Alford and then all of a sudden you have four.

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Speaker 1: But I do think you're gonna have to draft a

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Speaker 1: corner at some point because Murphy's contract will be coming up.

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Speaker 1: How much you want to pay him is see a

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Speaker 1: number one corner and see more of a slot corner.

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Speaker 1: And slot corners are getting paid too, because you got

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Speaker 1: to cover that slot receiver. It's it's an old adage,

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Speaker 1: but you can never have enough corners, and that's truer

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Speaker 1: now than it maybe has ever been. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: back to something that you asked James Connor about that

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Speaker 1: year two and how much better heat could be and

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Speaker 1: not that he dismissed it. He did say quote could

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Speaker 1: be big, meaning year two of the offense, but then

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Speaker 1: he added, it's super super early. Yes, it's day one,

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Speaker 1: we're in the middle of April. But I do think

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Speaker 1: you hit onto something that a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: going to recognize. Not only is it year four with

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury and Kyd the Murray, so you think that

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Speaker 1: should be like a well oiled machine. But going back

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Speaker 1: to have a James Connor year two, how about Zach

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Speaker 1: Ertz and DeAndre Hopkins playing together more than just a

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Speaker 1: handful of two games. That's all they played together. It

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Speaker 1: was two games. All of this should and we say

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Speaker 1: should because we don't know. We project, and we project

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Speaker 1: that year two based off the number of players that

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Speaker 1: are returning from a year ago. You would hope maybe

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Speaker 1: it doesn't translate and the win lost column, but perhaps

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Speaker 1: you're playing better, you're performing better overall to allow for

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Speaker 1: a sustained run into the postseason. Yeah. The only thing is,

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Speaker 1: you know, we know J. J. Watt's history. You know

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Speaker 1: he did play sixteen games before the Cardinals signed him.

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Speaker 1: He's missed thirty two in the last five and then

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Speaker 1: you're throwing AJ Green. I mean he was able to

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Speaker 1: play in fifteen games. It was sixteen games, and he

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Speaker 1: was COVID for one. You gotta just stay healthy, and

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Speaker 1: it's something that you can't predict. It's just then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're questioning your your depth there. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I think, you know, depending if they want

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Speaker 1: to play man and man or a zone. I like

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Speaker 1: the rotation. I would like to see them get another

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Speaker 1: defensive line here and possibly an outside linebacker. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get into what AJ Green had to say, because

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Speaker 1: I think he was very honest with the media and

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Speaker 1: maybe that was a result the amount of time taking

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Speaker 1: away from the game itself. As far as how the

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Speaker 1: season ended, and we've talked about his numbers, they don't

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Speaker 1: need to be repeated, but what this Ardinal's team paid

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Speaker 1: him to do. As far as numbers, he put up numbers.

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Speaker 1: He put up very good numbers. Although Green said quote

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Speaker 1: it was an okay season for him, and he mentioned

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Speaker 1: how the season finished for him, did not finish as

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Speaker 1: well as he wanted to and then was very I

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Speaker 1: think honest about the communication and the lack of communication

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Speaker 1: where more communication is needed between him and Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: quote what I see, or what he wants me to do,

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Speaker 1: how he wants me to run this route. And I

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Speaker 1: think last year there was lacking on my part. I

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Speaker 1: didn't really communicate with him about the stuff I like

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Speaker 1: because I didn't want to put a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: on his plate. And I do think you know, as

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Speaker 1: the quarterback, yeah there's a lot on your plate, but

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Speaker 1: when you're Aj Green, you have the cashier to go

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Speaker 1: up and say this is what I like, or tell

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Speaker 1: me what to do. And I do think it's part

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Speaker 1: of that maturation process, also of Kyler Murray learning how

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Speaker 1: to walk up on a guy, as Ron Wilfley likes

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Speaker 1: to say, get in his face, not make it personal,

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Speaker 1: but understand, I'm the quarterback, I'm the leader. This is

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Speaker 1: what I need you to do. I think we saw

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Speaker 1: it a couple of times last season, one in particular

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Speaker 1: Darell Daniels, who wasn't doing what he was supposed to do.

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Speaker 1: Some words were exchanged and then after after a while

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Speaker 1: it's like, okay, Kumbaya moment, everything is fine. But that

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Speaker 1: is what I think people want to see from Kyle

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Speaker 1: the Murray, and it's what Aj Green wants to see

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Speaker 1: more out of Kyler Murray. This week, AJ Green, a

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Speaker 1: guest on The Big Red Rage, talking about Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: He's not a guy that's going to be in your face,

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Speaker 1: but we got to make him be in your face

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Speaker 1: because this is his team and we go as he goes.

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Speaker 1: So again, more communication, more attention to details, which Kyle

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Speaker 1: Murray has always talked about over the last couple of season.

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Speaker 1: Little things, yes, little things, and that those little things

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Speaker 1: got up exactly now. You know, if you've watched the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals this year and everyone's going to go back to

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Speaker 1: the Packers game and there was a miscommunication, I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to point the finger either or and then and

638
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: the Colts game, you know, they weren't on the same page. Kyle.

639
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: I wanted him to come back for the route. So

640
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm glad that he could discuss this because that's what

641
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: the fans in the meeting were able to see. And

642
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: he's a great locker room guy. He's a true pro.

643
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: You know, he goes to work every day, just keeps

644
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: his head down. But I'm glad that. You know, when

645
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: he said I don't want to put a lot on

646
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: his plate, I mean Kyle is going into his fourth year,

647
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: maybe your third year, first got the first time here

648
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: on the roster. Maybe you're just like, I'm just gonna

649
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: fit in and stay in my lane versus, you know,

650
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: be a guy that Hey Thor Toball to Meat that's

651
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: not him And he said to him and Hopkins, they

652
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: don't want they both want to win. They're both unselfish

653
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: when it comes to who gets more targets. I just

654
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: you would have hoped that some of these conversations had

655
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: happened after games, exactly during the week. That's on me,

656
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: before the game begins or before next week starts, and

657
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: you learn from what happened the week prior, And maybe

658
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: there was some of that not enough. Who knows. We're

659
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: not in that locker room yet. What we're hearing now is, yeah,

660
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: things unraveled later in the season, and even aj Green

661
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: again on The Big Red Rage this week, mentioned quote

662
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: things were a little off when Murray returned from the

663
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: injury and de Hoop got hurt for a second time,

664
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals were never able to get that train

665
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: back on the track, so to speak. All Right, so

666
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: what happens when things don't go well? One happens when

667
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: adversity hits this team. Obviously, there was a lot of

668
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: adversity last season. Everyone dealt with COVID nineteen. The Cardinals

669
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: did not have their head coach and a number of

670
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: players in Cleveland won that ball game, So they did

671
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: deal with adversity at times. But when certain players were

672
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: not on the football field ie DeAndre Hopkins JJ Watt

673
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: on defense, there was something, in aj Green's words, a

674
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: little off. Things didn't look to us as media and

675
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: the fans from the outside, and obviously, as Green said

676
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: this week, weren't looking good from the inside either. Yeah,

677
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: and again for everyone listening to the podcast, I mean,

678
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: we talked about this during the season, and you know,

679
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: I'm glad that he you know, he can have said it.

680
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: You know, we all got to get better, and you know,

681
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: I'll take responsibility. I had an okay year, but he know,

682
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: he was straight forward saying this is what happened. And

683
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: you know, we're never gonna know what happened and how

684
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna fix it until they fix it in later

685
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: in the season. But I'm glad he opened up and

686
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: he was very, very honest, and that's why we want

687
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: from any athlete, let alone a cardinal player. We all

688
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: want answers. I mean, we've been talking about the issues,

689
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: the questions, and I don't know if those coaches, if

690
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: those players even have the answers as if yet, but

691
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: they're trying to figure it out and the self scouting

692
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: looking back, That's why I say, yeah, it's each season

693
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: is as its own separate season. But for me, I

694
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: think twenty twenty two might have started at the end

695
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one, that final, not the Rams game,

696
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: the playoff game, but how that season ended. And I think,

697
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, I was maybe lulled into a little bit

698
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: false sense of security when they went into Dallas beat

699
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, all right, you got that when you stopped

700
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: the losing streak, right, you can get back on track.

701
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: And it just never happened. Lose the Seattle at home

702
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: and they're playing for nothing. Well, Pride and guys were

703
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: free agents, and obviously Russell Wilson that he played his

704
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: first game at in Glendell and he played his last

705
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: game at State Farm Stadium. I mean, it's just when

706
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: I look at it from a just a standpoint of

707
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: and James Conner, he was asked about it but every

708
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: every coach I've talked to it, and you know, I'm

709
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: we're fortunate enough to you know, being the lunch room

710
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: and sometimes they'll come in there. Obviously if they're busy,

711
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 1: I don't I don't true the air off. It's quick conversation.

712
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: But when they said they went back into the deep dive,

713
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: they mentioned the injuries, but they mentioned that they didn't

714
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: have enough depth on the back end of the roster.

715
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: And we liked the roster coming out of training, yes,

716
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: but when you start losing your number one right a receiver,

717
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: the guy you brought in J. J. Watt, Jordan Phillis

718
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: wasn't playing up the par and then you know, the

719
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: offensive line went through different nine different line common canations,

720
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: but injuries are part of They got to figure it out.

721
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: But you just can't get to ten and two and

722
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: then finish with eleven wins. It's it's the season that

723
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 1: I think people are not going to forget until twenty

724
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: twenty two, the end of twenty twenty to see how

725
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two finishes. And then you look back and

726
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: you're right, that's where you can pinpoint where things turned

727
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: around or they didn't turn around, and it just is

728
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: the same same thing happening once again. Good start, poor finish. Yeah,

729
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: I'll say this though, they could have a better team

730
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: on paper, just who they retained and they know the

731
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: system and we haven't even you know, figure out who

732
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: the eight draft picks are. When you look at that,

733
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: they have a really difficult record, so they may only

734
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: win a loving diffic schedule schedule. Sorry, it's it's a

735
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: tough schedule. It's a really tough schedule, and at least

736
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: as we speak right now, who knows what happens, right

737
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: but you're playing the AFC West and then you got

738
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: my homes and obviously you know Brady coming in and

739
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: justin Herbert. But they may have a better record, but

740
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: it maybe the only be eleven wins. But maybe they'll

741
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: be able to play well down the stretch so they

742
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: can parlay that. Because I think we're being honest here.

743
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: I think everyone's playing for second place inside the NFC

744
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: West right now with the Rams unless they have an injury.

745
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question. I'm always of the

746
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: opinion and mindset that if you win the championship, if

747
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: you win the division, you are number one, no matter

748
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: what your record says during that following season until you're

749
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: knocked off, and the Rams will always be that team

750
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: until they're knocked off. Yeah, and then we'll find out

751
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: what's going on in San Francisco. I mean, obviously, Deebo

752
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: Samuel's in the news, Um, you know these receivers. And

753
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 1: the funny thing is, I don't know if if he's

754
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: aware that, you know, I guess they could bring Garoppolo back.

755
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: They could. You can actually trade Garoppolo and Deebo Sammue

756
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: to one team. You could package it to try to

757
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: make it more enticing. But I mean, so I don't

758
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: know if it's Trey Lance or Garoppolo. Right now, it's

759
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: Drew Lock and Geno Smith. Did they take a quarterback

760
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: in the second round? Clearly they're not going to start

761
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: a rookie. I wouldn't assume unless you get out of

762
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: the race early. And the Rams they don't have a

763
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: you know, a ton of picks, so the forty nine

764
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: ers are not picking until like the third round or

765
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: something like that. So again, it's a crapshoot, but you

766
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: got you gotta somehow figure it out. And if you

767
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 1: draft eight guys, you hope maybe four or five, especially

768
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: the top three or three rounds, and you hope to

769
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: get some flyers in those on the third day rounds

770
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: if they can move up fourth, five, six, and seven.

771
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday Proud partner the Arizona Cardinals.

772
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: Continuing to discuss what we heard over the last couple

773
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: of days from players, and we have not heard from

774
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: players very often this offseason. The good news JJ Watt,

775
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: he is, as he said, great regarding his injury. He

776
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: has no issues, so I'm guessing he'll be I don't

777
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: know if they'll monitor him at all this offseason. I

778
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: don't think he needs a lot of reps. It is

779
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: hard to keep him off the field even during practice,

780
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 1: hard to keep him out of the weight room here

781
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: as he has been a steady present for presents for

782
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: much of the offseason. But said something on Tuesday that

783
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: I think and at least I'm going to continue to

784
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: bring it up because I do believe that it is

785
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: going to be hopefully a lesson learned with respects to

786
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: last season and how last season ended. JJ Watt asked

787
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: specifically about lessons learned, quote, you got to play your

788
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: best football at the most important times of the year,

789
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: and I obviously don't think we did that last season.

790
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: I think that's the key to this league is finding

791
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: your stride at the right time. And MJ. He did

792
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: mention that he hopes his teammates use last season as

793
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: motivation because they're going to be As we keep talking about,

794
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: there are a number of teammates from last year. It's

795
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: not a new roster. There is going to be more

796
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: of the players that were aparts and had had a

797
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: hand and not only the eleven wins, but also the

798
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: disappointments ie that Rams playoff game. There are gonna be

799
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: more of those players playing key positions in twenty twenty

800
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: two to where I do believe in the back of

801
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: their minds they have to have twenty twenty one always

802
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: as a reminder as a motivator to do better, to

803
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: make sure, as we always like to say, history doesn't

804
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: repeat itself. Yeah, referring to J. J. Watt, I mean, clearly,

805
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: you know no one is happy what happened last year.

806
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: But I mean, I know what you're saying, they should

807
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: use it as motivation, but I think you got to

808
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: put it in the very mirror. I know they're human,

809
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: they're not robots. Like when when I asked James Connor

810
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: to the question about second year and he said, you know,

811
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: his first day of strength and conditioning and it was

812
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: in Darren's Like I think, is do you feel like

813
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 1: it's football? And then J J. Watt, Oh, it's football

814
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: when I'm in the building, this is football. And we

815
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: know we've we've seen him when he's not traveling outside

816
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: the country or going to die, burse he's been in

817
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: the facility like twenty four to seven. The only and

818
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: it's not pushback, but the only thing I'll say on

819
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: why I do think that twenty twenty one is going

820
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: to keep getting brought up. This team gets off to

821
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: a great starts in September four o four and one,

822
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: whatever it is, there's always going to be a segment

823
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: of the population. And I might even be leading the charge,

824
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Great congratulations, put you in a good position.

825
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: Tell me what your record is in December. Tell me

826
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: how you're playing in December. Not tell me how you're

827
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: playing in December, not in September. Yeah, I mean you

828
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: and I you have to respect the process. But the

829
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: way it's happened in the last three years, I mean

830
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: it can happen. I mean not in year four. I

831
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: mean just team should not take a step back. You

832
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: had you had eight players in the draft and maybe

833
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: four or five make the team, and then you retain

834
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: a lot of your players that were eleven wins tending

835
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: to at one point seven and oh so it's just that,

836
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, health is obviously always an issue. But I

837
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: like the chemistry of this team, and they work hard

838
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: and you could see that. You know, even Zach Allen,

839
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: he was excited to get to offseason workouts. Zach Ertz.

840
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: They were excited out and they are lifting weights and

841
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: are going out, they're running gassers and you know, sometimes

842
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: the offense is on the field, sometimes the defense is

843
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: on the field. So this is where it starts. You

844
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: put the work on now and hopefully the dividends will

845
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: pay off during the season. More from JJ Watt with

846
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: respect to last season as a catalyst for this season. Quote,

847
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: if you can't look at that game he's referring to

848
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: the playoff loss of the Rams, and you can't walk

849
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Speaker 1: out of that stadium feeling motivation and wanting to work

850
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: harder and wanted to be better and wanted to do

851
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: everything that you can you're probably in the wrong business.

852
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more. And once we get done with the draft,

853
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: and once we get done with I guess maybe the

854
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: second or third wave a free agency and some other

855
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: players are added, or maybe some other players are retained.

856
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: Love to see Robert Alford come back. It's going to

857
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: all right. Let's look at projected starters last season versus

858
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: this season, and my guess is there's gonna be a

859
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: huge chunk. I don't want to put a percentage on it,

860
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: but a huge chunk of starters on both sides of

861
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: the ball that it's gonna be the same that you're

862
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 1: gonna roll out Week one against whomever in twenty twenty

863
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: two and you're gonna look and say, that looks exactly

864
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: like last season's team. Yeah. The only difference right now,

865
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: if depending on what they do in the draft is

866
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: will Hernandez. They resigned AJ Green, they got Rondel Moore,

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Speaker 1: got George Hops coming off an injury, They retain Max Williams,

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00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: retained you know, Zach Ertz. So yeah, again, I just

869
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: think the schedule and to me, I mean, you'd like

870
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: to see this team stack wins, but we didn't know

871
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: what was going to happen in Detroit. They wanted the

872
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: game more than the Cardinals. Obviously the Panthers game, they

873
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: got some juice from Cam Newton. Even though they were

874
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: going against PJ. Walker. They couldn't cover McCaffrey. So but

875
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Speaker 1: to me, the NFL is a week to week proposition.

876
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: You think you know and you don't know. Yeah, you

877
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: can never assume that what you did the week prior

878
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: is going to carry over. Now. For a while there

879
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: this team was rolling and then things stopped and they

880
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: couldn't get it back going again. And we always like

881
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: to you know what, Buddha Baker always says one in Oh, Well,

882
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: the goal is to be one in oh and at

883
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: some point maybe that goal disappeared, it got away from

884
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: him at the end of last season. I don't like

885
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: talking about the season prior because you want to move forward.

886
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: But I think it's gonna be very difficult for this

887
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: team upcoming to move forward until they get dark near

888
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: to the end of twenty twenty two. And again, you know,

889
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: and they put themselves in that position. And I have

890
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: to go back, because you know, they was the five,

891
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: eleven and one. I don't have to go back how

892
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: they finished there, but clearly you look at his numbers

893
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: referring to the head coach in a Texas Tech and

894
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: everything else, even though they were putting up forty five

895
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: points a game with Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, it's just I

896
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: don't know, It's just I just think when the season starts,

897
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: But you're right, they can get off to a good start.

898
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: Maybe they lose a game early and then they have

899
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,479
Speaker 1: to target on their back hopefully get some primetime games.

900
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: But when you get to past Thanksgiving going into December,

901
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: you have to look at your opponents and you want

902
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: to be playing your best football. And again, injuries they

903
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: are going to dictate how well this team can play

904
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: down the stretch. And if you do have injuries, you

905
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 1: have to figure out a way to overcome those injuries,

906
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: because the good teams do that, and the good teams

907
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: not only overcome, but keep winning. And then when that

908
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: player does return, if they do return that they pick

909
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: up like nothing was ever left. Well, nothing was ever lost. Yeah,

910
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: I mean right now, I mean they have the three

911
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: defensive linemen. You'd have what Lawrence and then Alan and

912
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: then you got Lucky and you got Dogbe and they

913
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: got some other guys there but you want to get

914
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: more depth. I mean, you know, Rashad Lawrence, he's got

915
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: to stay healthy. Lucky's more of a run stuffer, So

916
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: that's perfectly. You may not Phillip a statute, he may

917
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: not get a sack, but at least he can occupy

918
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: a double team and love those linebackers. But you know,

919
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: besides m Jordan Phillips and Chandler Jones and Jordan Hicks,

920
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: I mean, we're probably gonna have the same amount of

921
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: guys on defense that you had last year. So maybe

922
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: one new starter on offense, three new starters potentially on defense. Yes,

923
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: And that's so you know again, so out of twenty two,

924
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: you would have almost eighteen guys that have been on

925
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: the roster either for a year or two or going

926
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: to their second year, and then you know you have

927
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: four other So that's yeah. I mean that's the way,

928
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: you know, when you look at it from that standpoint,

929
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just to me, you have to be

930
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: able to develop players, especially at the back end of

931
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: the roster. And I'm kind of bullish. I don't know why.

932
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: On James Wiggins, I got a chance to see him recently.

933
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: He looks the part I know they you know he's uh,

934
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: you know, Deontay Thompson can't stay healthy. We know that

935
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna start plant Buddha and Jalen Thompson. But James Wiggins,

936
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: he's got good size. I'm curious to see now he'd

937
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: be more for a dep guy. And at the end

938
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: of the day, we know that like Victor Depacchi, he

939
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: became a special teams player. But right now him and

940
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: Kennard are the backup linebackers, and right now they only

941
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: have Marcus Golden would be the starter. So obviously it's

942
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: gonna be difficult to replace Gola Chandler Jones. From a

943
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: leadership standpoint, It's gonna be hard to replace Jordan Hicks.

944
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: Maybe we get a little bit more inside as far

945
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: as how the Cardinals might go about replacing a Chandler Jones,

946
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: at least when it pertains to the NFL Draft. As

947
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: I mentioned, we are days days away for um, maybe

948
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Speaker 1: the biggest three days of the year for Mike Drenki

949
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: for potentially. Yeah, I mean this is I mean, you

950
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: gotta get better, and every team's you know, they're looking

951
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: at all the same players and every team has different

952
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: grades on them. And you know recently the Cardinals do

953
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: go through their medical So you know some guys that

954
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: may you be on the board and you see they

955
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 1: drop one, don't they take him? Well, maybe they're they're

956
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: not on their board. Maybe the doctor said he, you know,

957
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: he's not gonna last two or three years in the league.

958
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: But once you get out that out of the way,

959
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: you set your board and one twenty board and you

960
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: just start following where you are. And and to me,

961
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: they can go any direction at twenty three, I don't

962
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: think there's any question about it outside of quarterback, running back,

963
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 1: tight end, inside linebacker. Correct, I think you can go anyway.

964
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: And maybe safety as well. I'll fill that one out there.

965
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: I think they're okay at safety. Let's you're just look

966
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: at from more depth. But yeah, I would agree with that.

967
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: So so eighteen out of twenty two. Now, the good

968
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,919
Speaker 1: news is they don't line up until September. That's true.

969
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: I still have to you still have to remind me

970
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: that sometimes they get a little overboard and freak out

971
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: at times, but you know what, they got a j green.

972
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: You know, I'm fully convinced that the powers that be,

973
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: whether that's general manager Steve Kim or Quentin Errors or

974
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: Adrian Wilson, that they are, that they're paying attention to

975
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 1: what we do here on Cardinals Covered two, because they

976
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: did address that outside wide receiver. Now get someone to

977
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: rush the quarterback. That's all they ask. They'll have they'll

978
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: have guys in camp. It's just a matter of who.

979
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's leave it on that notes. We will

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Speaker 1: put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Covered two

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Speaker 1: presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always,

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Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Joe mol mondro for

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Speaker 1: Mike Drecky, Greg Rayel Loop. We'll talk to you next

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Speaker 1: time here on Cardinals Covered two.