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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff, You guys know the drill. Subscribe to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: shoot out the podcast. Merry Christmas. Hopefully you're having a

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Speaker 1: good weekend. We're gonna keep this short and sweet because

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Speaker 1: Christmas eves on Friday. Christmas on Saturday, and we'll all

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Speaker 1: be hanging out with family. I'll boosting a little bit,

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Speaker 1: hanging out watching some sports. So of course the Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: mail back at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. Fire into

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Speaker 1: those um those direct messages and get your question answered

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Speaker 1: here on the show. Before we dive into what we

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Speaker 1: saw on Tuesday, I wanted to just hit on two

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Speaker 1: things that I noticed. I don't do snubs from the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, mainly because I truly just do not care.

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Speaker 1: It does not matter to me. I can't even fake

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Speaker 1: the emotion. And if you listen to the show, I

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Speaker 1: this isn't first take. I don't fake anything. If I don't,

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Speaker 1: I only talk about things I care about. UM so

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Speaker 1: at the Pro Bowl doesn't do much to me. But

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Speaker 1: two things stood out to me. One Justin Herbert is

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Speaker 1: the starter for the a f C, the Chargers, the

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Speaker 1: Spanos family should hit their knees and pray and listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even religious, but if I was, then might

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Speaker 1: head to church and just say some prayers and some

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Speaker 1: thank you because they're gonna go on two decades with

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees, Philip Rivers and Justin Herbert. And let's face it,

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Speaker 1: obviously Drew Brees had an incredible career, but for the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: Herbert's gonna have the best career for them, and it's

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Speaker 1: not even gonna be close, right, Breeze just played his

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Speaker 1: rookie contract, then he went to the Saints. Obviously, Rivers

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Speaker 1: had a fantastic career, but he wasn't the talent of

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. And they looked into it all because Miami

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Speaker 1: took two a tongue of by law right that they

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Speaker 1: would have taken two as well. So sometimes it's better

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Speaker 1: to be lucky than good. You get Justin Herbert. Think

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Speaker 1: about this. When he came to the a f C,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes and Lamar already had MVP awards, and obviously both

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Speaker 1: those two guys are gonna be in the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: with him. You know, depends who makes Super Bowl. But

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Speaker 1: Think about that, you drafted a guy six overall who

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Speaker 1: ended up starting two years later in a Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: with two guys that have MVP awards and both young.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty nuts. It really is helped. The Bills just

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Speaker 1: gave Josh Allen a hundred fifty million dollars and no

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Speaker 1: one would argue that Herbert is better than Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Think about that, and listen, I didn't question, but I

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Speaker 1: thought it was a fair thing to bring up that,

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Speaker 1: you know, last year, Josh Allen, who played in these

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Speaker 1: games where there were no fans. It was just not

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Speaker 1: normal football. Aaron Rodgers remember hard counting on the road,

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Speaker 1: you know, last year in New Orleans. So you just

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Speaker 1: never knew. But he's been fantastic and he's gonna, you know,

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Speaker 1: keep saving a franchise. This, let's face it is, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's poorly run, but they

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Speaker 1: could be a joke sometimes. I mean the whole way.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're paying a dollar in rent to uh

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Speaker 1: to leach Off Crunky, you know, I mean, let's just

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Speaker 1: let's call spade a spade. They're not exactly the Jones family,

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Speaker 1: the Craft family. Now they inherited a lot from the Spanos,

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Speaker 1: from his grandpa, from his father that had all this

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Speaker 1: real estate in California. But man, do they luck into quarterbacks? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean the reason they got Philip Rivers was because

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Speaker 1: Eli refused to go there. And now that they end

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Speaker 1: up with Justin Herbert, who, let's face it, they did

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Speaker 1: not have. They had third on their board and because

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins who royally screwed up that pick. And we're

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Speaker 1: hard onto U and he's gonna have a chance Monday

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Speaker 1: night to kind of shut some of us up. And

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Speaker 1: I know he's been playing better. He ain't Herbert and

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Speaker 1: he never will be the other guy who made his

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Speaker 1: tenth Pro Bowl that I think this guy is having

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Speaker 1: one of the most fascinating careers in NFL history. I

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Speaker 1: I texted a guy who worked for the Patriots doesn't anymore,

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Speaker 1: but I asked him what made Matt Slater so just

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Speaker 1: so incredible? Like what's his deal? And He's like, I

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Speaker 1: can't even over text some up the human being he's

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Speaker 1: that great basically, And that sounds like hyperbole, and we

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Speaker 1: But think about this, Matt Slater is not an offensive player.

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Speaker 1: He's not a defensive player, and he's not a kick

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Speaker 1: he's not a kicker, and he's not a return man. Really,

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Speaker 1: so he is a he covers kicks. Yet for the

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Speaker 1: as well, entrusted him to bring up the team like

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Speaker 1: they go at after wins in the locker room. And

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Speaker 1: let's not forget they have been a dominant team when

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Speaker 1: he's been on it. He's won multiple Super Bowls, three

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Speaker 1: to be exact. He brings them up. He is the

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Speaker 1: leader of the squad. He is a cover guy on

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Speaker 1: special teams. A cover guy on special teams that's never

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Speaker 1: on a team that long. I've said it before and

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Speaker 1: I'll say it again. I think there's a chance Matt

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Speaker 1: Slater is probably top two or three favorite players of

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Speaker 1: their team captain, team leader, he covers kicks, but yet

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Speaker 1: he's the greatest kick cover in the history of the league.

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Speaker 1: Just just a remarkable story. And I don't think we'll

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Speaker 1: ever see it again on Tuesday's games, just really quick.

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Speaker 1: I give the Eagles some credit. I would yanked Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts early in that game, and I actually have earned

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Speaker 1: some respect for Jalen Hurts. He said something after the

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Speaker 1: game and went viral. He threw a pick which was

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Speaker 1: not anyone's fault. It was a freak deal went off.

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Speaker 1: I think it was God or I don't even know

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Speaker 1: someone's foot and the Redskins or the football team. You

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Speaker 1: have so many names for the football team, like, just

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Speaker 1: pick a name, stay in it. But he had a

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Speaker 1: Jalen was like, I'm a coaches kid too. I want

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Speaker 1: him to yell at me. And I think sometimes that's refreshing.

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Speaker 1: You know, in a day and age and as society,

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Speaker 1: people still like to be screamed at. Sometimes I miss

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Speaker 1: getting screamed at. When you go into business for yourself,

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Speaker 1: always could things turn on you. But I don't have

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Speaker 1: It brings out the best in certain people. I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: much better than I ever thought he would be. And

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Speaker 1: uh again I would have yanked him out of that

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Speaker 1: game and gone with Gardner Minshew, but they didn't. And

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Speaker 1: then they kicked the football team's ass, Seattle's clearly and shambles.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what what a disastrous season from them. It

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Speaker 1: really is just you know, the mallet finger from Russell

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Speaker 1: DM me a while back just kind of talking about

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Speaker 1: him underachieving and I would agree he should be better.

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Speaker 1: There was a play in that game and underthrown poor

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Speaker 1: pass by Russell Wilson that he tried to basket catch

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Speaker 1: and Jalen Ramsey made a play. Do you think Justin

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Speaker 1: Jefferson would have tried to basket catch or he would

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Speaker 1: have high pointed the ball. Do you think Davante Adams

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Speaker 1: of category right now. There. He is not a superstar player.

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Speaker 1: He's underachieving again, not all his fault, but he's able

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Speaker 1: to change his hair color like every other week, so

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Speaker 1: you would think he would make some more plays when

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Speaker 1: he's doing that. But he's clearly not the Rams. You know,

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Speaker 1: if the Indianapolis Colts beat the Arizona Cardinals, the Rams

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Speaker 1: if they Sony Michelle was good in that game, if

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Speaker 1: and that's that's something to keep an eye on. Ninety

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Speaker 1: nine dominated Jalen Ramsey dominating that game. Football is not

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Speaker 1: million people watch every NFL game whether it's good or bad. Right, So,

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Speaker 1: What else would we have watched? We consume football. The

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Speaker 1: the evidence is in and Tiger and Charlie, who also

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Speaker 1: that shouldn't be shocking. Tiger doesn't move the needle. He

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Speaker 1: like green Bay big in this game. Myles Garrett's injured. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I Baker is not very good. The Packers are absolutely rolling.

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Speaker 1: probably eight nine. Underachieved greatly. Obviously Baker's was banged up,

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Speaker 1: Now they're playing doesn't even matter anymore, but the Packers

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Speaker 1: big in this game Indian Arizona, the night game on Christmas.

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Speaker 1: What a fantastic game on paper. It really is the Colts,

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Speaker 1: I saw they tweeted out this video. Frank given out

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Speaker 1: all the Pro Bowl awards, you know, to like Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Staley can talk down to everyone and say football people

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Speaker 1: get it. No, we don't. We do not understand why

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Speaker 1: you don't kick a field goal going into half. That's

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Speaker 1: the easiest move ever. Kicked the field goal, go up seven.

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Speaker 1: That's when he lost the game. And you can give

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Speaker 1: me all, well, he's been doing it all season long.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. That game that context, you gotta kick the

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Speaker 1: field goal, and he refused to do it. Chiefs fan

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Speaker 1: here coming off and presses divisional win last night. Still

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Speaker 1: have concerns. The razzle dazzle of the offense is fun

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Speaker 1: to watch, but I'm concerned that in the playoffs when

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Speaker 1: you need to control the ball, they won't be able

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Speaker 1: to do it. They've invested a lot in the old

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Speaker 1: line and they refused to commit to the running game.

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Speaker 1: William him has more juice than Clyde. In my opinion.

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Speaker 1: I believe he gives them a better shot at consistent

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Speaker 1: yards now that the defense is playing better, I wish

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Speaker 1: the offense would resemble an offense instead of a scramble

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Speaker 1: drow What say you, yeah, I think they've been better.

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Speaker 1: I mean they know how to win in the playoffs, period,

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Speaker 1: point blank, end of story. They have been in how

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Speaker 1: many playoff games over the last three years? They've been

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Speaker 1: in three a FC championship games, have been in silver

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Speaker 1: super Bowls. They they've played a ton of teams and

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Speaker 1: just other rounds. They know what to do. Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna look it up right now. I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: he's won twenty playoff games. Uh, maybe more. It might

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Speaker 1: even be twenty two. His playoff record in his career, okay,

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Speaker 1: seventeen and fifteen seventeen playoff victories. He knows how to

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Speaker 1: win playoff games. I'd feel pretty good. You guys are

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Speaker 1: gonna be Okay. My name is Martel, longtime Bengels fan,

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Speaker 1: and I love the pot. Just wondering about the long

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Speaker 1: term future of the franchise and do you see us

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Speaker 1: making a legit playoff run? And by the way, I

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Speaker 1: love the other part. Also made some money. Listen to

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Speaker 1: you and stucky. You guys are lucky, man, you truly are.

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Speaker 1: You have Joe Burrow. Think about this year. All these

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Speaker 1: teams sucked all year long and there's no quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the draft. The best quarterback by force Kenny Pickett, and

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Speaker 1: he's like, you know, Mac Jones, Kirk Cousins type. You've

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Speaker 1: got Joe Burrow like your franchise whether you make the

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Speaker 1: playoffs or not. And we'll see. Obviously the game this

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Speaker 1: week against the Ravens is huge. I would be pretty

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Speaker 1: fired up you got Joe Burrow. Higgins is a study,

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Speaker 1: Chase is stud mixing is a study, and he's under contract.

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Speaker 1: You guys are in a good spot. You need to

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Speaker 1: improve the offensive line, improve the defense. But I I

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Speaker 1: would be pretty bullish if I were you on the

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Speaker 1: long term viability of my franchise. Mr Middlecoff, you can

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Speaker 1: just call me John. I'm a huge fan of the

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Speaker 1: show and greatly admire your genuineness and humility. I like

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Speaker 1: this guy already. You not only provide great football inside,

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Speaker 1: but you have sage life advice as well. Joe, I'm

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Speaker 1: a big man of yours. I'm a cure, I'm a

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Speaker 1: current college student and was wondering if you could provide

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Speaker 1: what advice would you give. Well, I'll be honest, I

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Speaker 1: sent emails to people I did or not emails at

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Speaker 1: the time I mailed. I mailed resume slash application letters

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Speaker 1: to all the PACT at the time, the Pac ten schools,

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Speaker 1: and all of them denied me. And I never would

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Speaker 1: have had a chance because when I became a g

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Speaker 1: A those letters used to come to me and typically

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Speaker 1: you got to know a coach on the staff, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't know anyone in football. The only person I

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Speaker 1: knew in college football was my cousin who played at

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Speaker 1: I think I went to visit him for like spring

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Speaker 1: break going into my senior year. I had him take

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Speaker 1: me by the football office and I introduced myself to

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of how But if it wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: would have probably met the guy, let alone had the job.

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Speaker 1: So you almost have to know someone now looking back,

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Speaker 1: if I hadn't have known had my cousin Kenny that

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Speaker 1: played at Fresno State, you you basically would have to

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Speaker 1: network and meet some people, because without meeting anyone, it's

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Speaker 1: impossible to get in. It really is. The only way

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Speaker 1: I ended up in the NFL was Pat Hill called

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Speaker 1: at the time, Anthony Patch, who's still with the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: you know, gave my name so that that never would

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Speaker 1: have happened. I never would have got to the NFL

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Speaker 1: without knowing anyone, just like I never would have got

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Speaker 1: with college football without knowing anyone. Now, the differences in

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Speaker 1: two thousand one, if you want to be a graduate

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Speaker 1: assistant for recruiting, the departments are getting way bigger because

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Speaker 1: a scouting department, so it might be easier to get

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Speaker 1: your foot in the door. So my only recommendation is

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Speaker 1: you have to find a way to meet people on

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Speaker 1: the inside without knowing people on the inside, it's impossible

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Speaker 1: to break through the door in my opinion, or or

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Speaker 1: at least it's very, very challenging. So the number one

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Speaker 1: goal would be to I hate the word network because

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Speaker 1: it sounds so fake, find a way to build some

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Speaker 1: relationships with people where you want to go. It can

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Speaker 1: be tough, but I don't know, shoot an email, friend

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Speaker 1: him on LinkedIn, follow him on you know, d M

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, Instagram. You just gotta fucking hustle. That's that's

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Speaker 1: what you gotta do. And I was hustling, but it

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Speaker 1: just would have been a waste of my time looking back,

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Speaker 1: because these people didn't know who I was. It's not

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Speaker 1: like I was some Division one football star, you know.

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Speaker 1: The only coaches I knew were the ones at cal

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Speaker 1: Poly Andre from Castro Valley living in Philly. We know

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Speaker 1: Gruden made the last call in the top draft pick.

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Speaker 1: Are we to assume that he made all the picks?

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Speaker 1: Or did Mayock draft take? Uh? Did Mayoff draft take

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Speaker 1: the late rounds? Seeing a trend over the last few

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Speaker 1: years where the late picks are actually fantastic for the

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Speaker 1: Raiders versus the first round picks. Crosby Renfro Hobbs. That's

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Speaker 1: a hell of a question that I do not know

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Speaker 1: the answer to. But they're drafting in the first round

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Speaker 1: has been embarrassing. I mean Apps, I mean Leatherwood stinks.

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Speaker 1: He is terrible. They had to Ruggs was gonna be

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Speaker 1: a good player, but he's gonna go to jail now.

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Speaker 1: Damon Arnett was a just a joke pick Cleveland Ferrell

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Speaker 1: awful selection. They took Cleland over Devin White. It's one

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Speaker 1: of the all time w tfs. Not the Washington football

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Speaker 1: team either. So yeah, I don't know. I don't have

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Speaker 1: the answer for you, but it's it's very, very bizarre.

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Speaker 1: I don't know Mayok's gonna survive. Okay, last question here,

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Speaker 1: Ryan y Argers fan here, Yes we do exist. Chargers

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Speaker 1: fan base has been growing, but the media still pushes

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Speaker 1: we have no fans in l A. What's up with that.

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Speaker 1: I know it's not as big as most teams, but

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Speaker 1: you can tell was allowed versus the Chief's offense out there.

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Speaker 1: Thanks if you get this. Yeah, I mean, I just

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Speaker 1: think it's hard to make old narratives die. Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: becomes a star, he'll be one of the biggest players.

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Speaker 1: You know, most famous players in the NFL, and you

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Speaker 1: guys will have a lot of fans. Do you know

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Speaker 1: how why the Cowboys have a lot of fans or

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Speaker 1: the Packers have a lot of fans, or the Yankees

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Speaker 1: have a lot of fans, and the Lakers have a

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Speaker 1: lot of fans. Because the more you win, you get

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Speaker 1: bandwagon fans. The only people that push against bandwagon fans

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Speaker 1: are teams that don't have a lot of bandwagon fans. Right.

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Speaker 1: The reason the Niners fans or the Niners are the

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Speaker 1: biggest brand out West is because for twenty years from

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Speaker 1: eight one till about o two, they won every stinking year.

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Speaker 1: And you gain fans by winning. Do you know why

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Speaker 1: the Warriors have become such a big brand because they win?

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Speaker 1: So if you win, and if you could assistantly win,

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Speaker 1: your fan base will exponentially grow. Sports is not very complicated.

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Speaker 1: Like there's a reason why when we when I first

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Speaker 1: started doing Get in the podcast world is when I

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Speaker 1: got out of radio, and we basically just reinvented our

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Speaker 1: radio show on a podcast and we did Raiders and Niners,

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Speaker 1: and then we realized from a business perspective, it made

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Speaker 1: way more sense to just do the Niners. And do

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Speaker 1: you know what happened when we started just talking about

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Speaker 1: the forty niners and this is when they were bad,

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Speaker 1: our numbers doubled and tripled. Because it's just it's all

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Speaker 1: a numbers game, you know. It's like, that's why I

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Speaker 1: get very unemotional about this stuff because and listen, I

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Speaker 1: don't talk that much about the Cowboys because if there's

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Speaker 1: not something on the Cowboys, I don't really get that

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Speaker 1: fired up. But I've seen some of the numbers on

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Speaker 1: the three Now podcast when we've opened up with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: They do enormous numbers. Belichick is so famous, not because

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Speaker 1: he's Bill Belichick, because he's one for twenty years, the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: the Packers. I mean, it's it's all about winning. When

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Speaker 1: you win, your fan base gross and the bigger fan

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Speaker 1: base becomes, the more lucrative you come to be put

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Speaker 1: on television, and the more you're on television, more eyeballs

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Speaker 1: are on you. It's a pretty simple formula, right, Like

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Speaker 1: the Giants and the Jets are unique. They just happen

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Speaker 1: to be in the number one media market. There's just

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Speaker 1: more people in New York. So if they're good, their

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Speaker 1: fan base is just massive immediately right. Same thing with

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Speaker 1: the Bears, but the Jags are irrelevant. They would have

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Speaker 1: to win consistently for like a decade that get a

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Speaker 1: big fan base, which is not gonna happen because they

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Speaker 1: only lose. Appreciate everyone hitting me up and Merry Christmas,

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Speaker 1: have a great weekend. Uh, enjoy your family, enjoy your friends,

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Speaker 1: Relax a little bit. Reset unless you're working. Some of

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Speaker 1: us got to pay the bills, so I'll be working,

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Speaker 1: not really, I guess, kinda, but enjoy it. I I'm very,

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Speaker 1: very grateful of everyone that listens to this podcast and

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Speaker 1: it's helped us oh where we're trying to go and

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Speaker 1: keep going, and very very excited for two thousand and

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Speaker 1: twenty two to just keep doing what you're doing. Audios everyone,

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Speaker 1: godspeed the volume