WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Pressure Drill Thrills 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:03.120 The following. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:05.120 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:06.640 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:17.320 Cowboys This he's Talking Cowboys Training Live from Dallas Cowboys 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:18.200 Training Camp in. 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:22.959 Oxnard, Calais. 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:29.960 Second Lea's got ten sixdown and now your hosts, Isaiah Standback, 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:34.840 Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, and Kyle Yeoman's. 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:42.680 Welcome to Talking Cowboys Live from training camp in Oxnard, California. 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:44.280 I am here with Patrick No C. 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:44.800 Walker. 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:48.800 I am here with Nathaniel Newton Cowboys Legend. I am 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:52.680 Josh Rodriguez. Christopher Beemer in the background setting up the 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:55.720 cameras doing his thing. Boys, how are we feeling? 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:55.840 You know? 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.360 I could use a big old cup of black Rifle coffee. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:00.959 I really could, And speaking of. 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:01.680 It'll get you going. 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.360 This podcast is brought to you by Black Rifle Coffee. 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.760 Please send us some murdered out coffee like that. 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.440 Complete coincidence that you were craving black rifle coffee in there. 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:13.160 It's never a coincidence when you're craving a. 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:14.240 Black rifle coffee. 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:15.800 Complete coincidence. 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.720 No, I need a big old espresso right now. 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:22.560 You know, it's the middle of the week. Struggle is 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:23.320 that what you're feeling? 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.559 Yeah, big time, big time. How are we doing, boys, 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:26.440 How are we feeling today? 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.120 I'm feeling great. We're a live right, we're alive. We're here, 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:32.760 we're talking football. I'm sitting next to a Cowboys Lynchend. 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:38.520 You know, poor man's Charles Barkley, he said, he said. 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:39.560 He said that offline. 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:42.880 I love that. That's who I am. The poor man's 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:45.880 uh what child's made ten million a year. 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:52.960 So take nine thousand dollars and give me the hundred left, 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:56.200 give me one hundred left. 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:57.080 How are we feeling today? 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:57.280 Night? 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:02.080 Oh? Great man, great, great, y'all Barkley. 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.920 Yes, Nate's willing to take a team friendly deal on 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:07.080 his Oh yes. 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:11.400 Yes, I can come there. I'll come out here free. 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:15.440 We have lots to talk about today, lots to talk 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.680 about really intense patted practice yesterday. But let's get into 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:22.280 the news and notes end everything that Patrick want. 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.360 Well, first, let's go ahead and get the uh the 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:30.480 non football stuff out of the way. Business. Dak Prescott 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:34.200 and Ceedee Lamb have both well. We received an update 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.919 from Stephen Jones on both Ceede Lamb and Dak Prescott's contract. 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:38.920 Let me put it that way, So as we knew 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.320 going into the back end of the weekend, uh, the 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:44.520 Cowboys submitted an offer recently to both Dak Prescott and 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.520 CD Lamb as recently it's Friday, great news show some 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.880 traction there. We got some news from Stephen Jones effective 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:54.239 yesterday morning that they got a counter offer from Ceedee 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.799 Lamb on Sunday night. So that just lets you know 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:02.040 that it's activity there. Stephen defined it as quote unquote 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:07.200 upbeat and very cordial. So there's movement and it could 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.880 land at any day, any moment. The good news is 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.240 there's movement there and as far as Dak Prescott is concerned, 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:15.720 Cowboys remain upbeat as far as that as well. You know, 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:19.240 the temperature between the talks are hot. Things are going on, 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:23.080 So good news there. Now to the football side, Treyvon Diggs, 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:25.760 first team All Pro record sitting cornerback. 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:26.840 He's back. 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.760 He was officially removed from the team's pup physically unable 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:34.320 to perform list. As far as expectations go, I'm told 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.440 don't expect him on the field as far as team 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.080 drills with seven on sevens just yet. 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.040 They're continuing him in his ramp up period. 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.760 From that rehab from the torn acl But he is 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:47.560 available to practice as soon as they deem him willing, 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:49.280 not willing, but worthy to do so. 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:51.560 Worthy being the operative word. 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.880 And I know Mike macarthy was talking about kind of 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:57.040 easing him into practice. We saw him out there, he 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:00.320 was on the field, he was doing his preparations getting already. 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:02.720 I can't wait to see him in paths on the 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:07.040 field and everything. But how soon should we expect to 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:07.440 see that. 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:09.680 I honestly wouldn't put a date on it. 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.240 I would say it could be as early as next 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.200 week when they start putting him into because keep in mind, 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.839 he has to go through up to individual drills first, 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.640 so like yesterday he was doing work with trainer Britt Brown, 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:24.840 getting himself back together as far as conditioning goes. He'll 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:26.160 go from there and then he has to go to 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:29.279 individual drills. From individual drills, then you work him into 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.080 seven on seven drills, and then you work him into 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:33.800 full team drills. So if you look at it from 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:37.080 that capacity alone, you might not see Trayvon Diggs doing 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.120 seven on seven or full team drills until earlier mid 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:40.640 next week. 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.120 But I would I'm hesitant to put a date on it. 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.039 I said, let that play itself out, because what you 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.200 don't want to do is rush that guy back, and 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:48.640 they have no intentions of doing that. 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:54.040 I have seen through experience. I've seen it, I've been 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:54.840 a part of it. 0:04:56.440 --> 0:05:01.280 I know that he's physically, bodily wise ready to go. 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:05.520 If Britt Brown releases you, you are physically ready to go. 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:09.520 The question I've always had for trainers and everybody concerned 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:13.200 the player mostly is where you at mentally when you 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:17.039 when you make that first awkward move, how will you 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:18.240 respond after that? 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:23.200 So I'm always waiting on I like the slow approach. 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.040 If he get back by the six or seventh game 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.080 of the year, where a snap count, it would not 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:32.039 bother me. With a with a snap count meaning ten 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:35.640 plays here of fifteen twenty a ramp up, it would 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.719 not bother me. And am I am serious? I wanted 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.320 it for Still, I wanted it for Michael Gallup. 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.040 It's just the way I'm built, you know. 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.200 And I know sometimes you say, well, we need this guy, 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:48.719 we need he's better than the backup. 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.360 No he's not, because he's mentally not ready. 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:54.800 And you don't want that game where somebody go off 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:58.120 on you and say Oh, I'm really not ready. You 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.919 don't want that still went through, This guy'd be one 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.479 of the most him and Dad got a rank one 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:04.960 in two in mental toughness. 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.120 Still was still with through last year. 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:07.839 Yeah, exactly. 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.800 He wasn't mentally ready. Physically he was. I mean, you 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:14.279 see no injuries, but mentally he was not ready. But 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:18.120 those first seven eight games and uh, and I just 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:21.080 want this kid to be mentally ready. I know he's 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.440 physically ready, but I want him to be mentally ready. 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:24.960 So if you don't get back into the fifth of 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.479 sixth game, I'm good with it. I may not be 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:31.360 good with Missus Jones brown out the fans, but I'm 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.240 just saying, from a player's perspective. 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:34.440 No, one hundred percent. And it hasn't even been a 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.720 full year since that injury. Like, it's not like we're 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:39.320 talking about exactly, it's not like we're talking about last 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:41.560 training camp where this happened. It's it hasn't been a 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:45.280 full year yet, and I'm more than comfortable seeing them 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.640 sort of ease him into practice, as Michael McCarthy talked about. 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:52.400 All right, boy, so our next point, the pads are on. Yes, 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:56.600 we saw him on yesterday football is actually happening. The 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:00.000 pads are popping, and I want to ask you, guys 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:03.919 from a football perspective, what is the significance of having 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:05.920 pads on during these and why are there so few 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:07.839 padded practices for the people at home. 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:13.120 Well, the number one reason they say safety the number 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:17.480 of wear and tell on the body. That's number two. 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:22.120 But for me, what past does give you a more 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:26.880 real life timing? The quicker you can ramp yourself up 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:31.200 to use of getting hit and being physical and going 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:32.720 through the actual plays. 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:34.080 It helps the timing. 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.840 The quarterback get to see when you're out there as 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.680 a wide receiver, when you're in no pass, nobody's really 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:43.480 putting hands on you. But now these cornerbacks are putting 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.840 hands on these receivers. So now they have to learn 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:49.520 to adjust their routes, the hand movement, the hand combat 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:51.440 that has to go. It's a lot of things that 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:55.080 go into when you put the pads on. Like me personally, 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.480 when I played, I was the worst guy with no 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:00.800 pass Because guys, young guys. 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:01.320 Be running by. 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:04.280 Everybody running by, they'll be laughing, you know, But the 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:08.000 past go It's like now I'm laughing, I'm sitting over 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:11.000 there laughing and eating a doughnut, drinking coffee like you 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:14.240 ain't the guy you thought you was so uh, And 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:15.400 we see it every year. 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:16.880 Man, this guy looked great. 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.720 Like we was talking yesterday for the past, for no 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:21.600 paths to be on these guys great. 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.280 Well, a few guys disappeared yesterday. 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:25.840 You know who didn't disappear. 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:30.160 Yes today Tyler got no no, but we'll touch It 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.080 comes to the paths more or less. You're talking about CBA, 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:35.760 the Collective Bargaining Agreement. 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:36.280 Uh. 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.320 You know, it's been negotiated time and again and most recently, 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.240 I believe this newest one is from twenty twenty, and 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:47.040 it just basically dictates how many hours per week uh 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:51.120 can be put into you know, not only on field work, 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.680 but especially contact like full contact like playing in pads. 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:59.520 So you know, these NFL coaches nowadays, and unfortunately Mike McCarthy, 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:01.720 he's he's felt his share of fines over the past 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:05.880 several seasons because of this or that, you know, because 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.040 he's been pushing to get the work done and it 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:09.760 might go over a little bit on this time or 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:10.079 that time. 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:11.800 And there's so many intricacy, there's so. 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:13.720 Many intricacies to it. So at the end of the day, 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:15.680 it's just it's a bold new world. It's not the 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.800 same world that we enjoyed as football fans when Big 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.079 Nate was playing, and you know, the Dynasty days of 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.440 the Cowboys where Jimmy had him out there too days 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:24.040 and things like that. 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:25.440 It's just not that anymore. 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.000 So, you know, I know that kind of lends to 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.520 some people viewing that as a part of the injury conversation. 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:31.880 As far as you. 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:33.839 Know, is that one of the reasons why we're seeing 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.559 so many injuries in the NFL nowadays. I could see 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:38.800 the argument for that. But at the same time, these 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:42.439 guys nowadays, they never really stopped training in the offseason anyway, 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.400 So that's how you kind of balance that. But if 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:48.640 you're wondering why so few numbers of padded practices in 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.320 training camp, it's because of the CBA. 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.480 Fair enough, fair enough, And do we wish that number 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.439 were higher? I mean, just personally, do we wish that 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:57.040 number were high? 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:58.679 As a fan, yeah, I want to see more, pop 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.959 I don't care because all thirty two teams are doing it. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:08.560 When I played, it was every day, two days. 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:14.760 An easy day was full pass in the morning, shoulder 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.960 pads and helmet. In the evening, forty nine ers went 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:22.520 shoulder pads, run period and one on one period and 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:25.760 then they was off and they did longer practice. They 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.480 did two hours to two hours and thirty minutes. We 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:31.320 did shorter practices. Hours lasted an hour and forty five 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:36.200 minutes because we hit. So it doesn't vary from team 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.760 to team. Everybody's under the same. Veterans get ten hours 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.400 a day, Rookies get up to twelve hours a day. 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:43.199 That's it. 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.880 So what separates the great teams from the. 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.800 It still comes down to who's got that dog in them, 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:52.240 who's got the better athletes, that got the biggest dogs. 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:52.960 You know what I'm saying. 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.120 It still comes down to the athletic guy above the shoulders, 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:59.640 not below the shoulders, but above the shoulders. Who has 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.480 a little chip on the shoulders. That's that's that's what 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:04.439 that's what drives the same still. 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:06.880 But it's also like like Nate said, and as far 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.600 as like the timing goes, you know, when you're talking 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:13.720 about as Mike McCarthy puts it, they're running around in 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:17.040 their underwear. That's completely different from when the pads are 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.800 on its full contact as full speed. Now you get 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:21.880 to really see who you're lining up against. Now they 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:24.320 get to see who they're lining up against. And and 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.160 yesterday they were off to the races and we saw 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.520 exactly that. And you know, you start to see the 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:35.200 separating line between who looks great in OTAs with no 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:38.839 pads versus who can still look great when they are 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.200 actually getting attacked at the line of scrimmage, if you're 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:44.120 a receiver, or if you're in the trenches when Michael 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.559 Parsons is coming at your full speed Olsa Diggi Zuo 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.920 was coming at your full speed, or trying to get 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.800 around a brock Hoffman who had another had a great 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:55.120 day yesterday. So full pads basically really gives you the 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.920 early indication of who will continue to stand out when 0:11:57.920 --> 0:11:58.400 it matters. 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.319 Most everyone has a plan until they get hunched in 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:00.600 the mouth. 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.480 Yeah, word, tyson, word tyson. 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.240 We had some explosive moments in practice yesterday. I kind 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:07.400 of want to touch on some of these. 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:08.360 I was there. 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:10.520 I was on this side of the field. That happened 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:14.200 on the other side headed my direction, where Jane Thomas 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:20.400 had an insane interception jumping Douce Vaughan's route picking off 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.000 a Cooper Rush interception. 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:24.440 Just an amazing play. 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:28.200 Uh Patrick has an amazing video of that play that 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.720 is on at Voice of the Star on Twitter. And 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.880 also we have a new document or not documentary article 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.960 feature on Dallas Cowboys dot com called Camp Captures where 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:40.840 we where we highlight a lot of those plays that 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:44.199 are report our team reporters are filming on the sidelines. 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:45.560 Great video. 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:47.920 By the way, I think you need to be a cinematographer. 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:51.000 I think you were a cinematographer in another life, in 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:51.840 a previous life. 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.160 I take the wish that money had rolled over what. 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:59.520 Were some other great individual plays yesterday with the pads. 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:03.400 On Well, another interception right for Mike zimmers defense, and 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.240 it seems like it doesn't matter which quarterback is back there. 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.440 They're finding ways. Zimmer secondary, they're finding ways to get 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.080 their hands on the ball. Shouts out to one Yea 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.520 Thomas the way he read that route, because I was 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:15.160 standing on the same side of the field as you, 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.040 the way he read closed, reacted and was able to 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:21.199 pull that ball in. That was Yeah, that was fantastic. 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.520 So that's great. Obviously, you want to continue to see that. 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:28.600 Tyler Goyton, we got to talk about Tyler Goeydon. He 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.880 looked good up against Michael Parsons in the mock game, 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:34.840 going through the motions. How would he look against Michael 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:36.840 Parsons when they were in full pads. And then you 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:40.440 saw before practice yesterday Michael Parsons telling Mozzie Smith, no 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.000 more games, no more games, I'm going to show you 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.840 how it's done, which told you the mindset of Michael Parsons. 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:46.960 He was going to go out there, he was going 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:50.000 to attack this rookie first round pick, and as it 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:52.839 turns out, time and time again, he ran into a 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:56.640 stone wall, even with that fast get off that he has. 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:58.800 So Tyler Goyton was phenomenal. 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:03.960 Jalen Brooks again we talked about we talked about one 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:05.559 Ye Thomas with that play. 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:07.360 But also insane play. 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:11.240 I mean, just yeah, Mazzie Smith is he's looking He's 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:12.119 looking good. 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.400 Mazzie Smith is looking good. Did he have a perfect 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:16.880 day yesterday? No he didn't. 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.640 But as I posted some clips, his get off is 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.800 in fact it's fast. It was one of the fastest 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:26.120 ones yesterday that I monitored. His size is there, his mindset, 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:27.960 is there. He looks like he's playing looser. It looks 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:29.760 like he's playing more comfortable in you two man. 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.160 And this is not to be totally entirely optimistic, like 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.040 we're not. We don't have the blinders on, like this 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:36.080 is just what we're saying. 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:37.080 Was it a perfect day? No? 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.120 But it was a damn good day from No. And 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:40.920 we even have to talk about these quarterbacks. I mean 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:42.840 that there are a lot of I in ts flying 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.520 around and I know I was talking to Nate about 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:48.000 this earlier too. I mean, how do we feel about 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.040 the quarterback situation at the moment. 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.760 One thing has been very consistent about this camp, and uh, 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.920 it's been our dbs and our linebackers getting picks. That 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.480 has been very consistent. It has been very inc assistance. 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:04.360 Is our quarterbacks and wide receivers are not making this connection. 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.960 I know we don't. We're missing CD Lamb, but we 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:11.880 still have the Brooks brothers, you know, the jaalenks Wet. 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.160 We still you know, we still have uh uh what's that? 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.280 What's that? Got number three? Good? 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.520 While Rennick we still have him. Uh, we still have 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:24.760 Ferguson at tight end. So it still should be a connection. 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:28.000 Here, but our dbs. 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.160 And linebackers are taking over the whole camp. That has 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:33.200 been the one of things that's making system with or 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.320 without pads. Has these guys been breaking on the ball. 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.720 Just a great job to coach Harrison what he's doing 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.360 with all those guys in the backfield. But I liked 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:49.160 it yesterday was simply linebackers coming downhill, meeting the guards, 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:53.440 meeting full backs when they when one was in there 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.920 coming up filling lanes. That was something unique and different. 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:00.280 Everybody like, yeah, I don't want to hear that. It's 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:04.280 something different than last year. Even before the young man 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:10.120 got hurt. Uh, these guys were not coming downhill like 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.680 that and meeting people in the hole and redirect and 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:14.320 running back. 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:19.280 So that was something good to see. Uh Uh. 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:25.200 I'm excited about about BB. But Happman does have as 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:29.160 slight Yeah, he has a slight lead over him. 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:30.640 Uh Uh. 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:36.280 They still it's rotating, uh idoga and guiding. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:37.320 Uh. 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:41.640 People's looking at guiding and he's doing nice things. But 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.800 I see as a as a fellow lineman, I see 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:46.680 the things that he truly needed to work on that 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.840 can make him get him in trouble, you know, because Uh, 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.040 just little things that he needs to work on. So 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:55.760 to me, he had a nice day and he's building. 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:59.000 Uh what I need a little bit more from Mysia's 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:04.959 Uh he has to Some people cannot have an off play. 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:10.120 If Mazie has ten snaps, he has to have nine and. 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:11.240 A half of them, right. 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:16.080 Uh, Because what I'm saying is, yeah, he still hasn't 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:20.240 broken that habit yet of his lacks of dazeriness if 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.920 that's a word, He's say every nine and then he'll 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:24.440 get a little lack of daser. 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.200 You can, you can, you can, you can, you can. 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:28.160 Catch him off guard, and you can you can hook 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:31.080 him one way or the other, and uh, never straight ahead. 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:33.919 He's always good with the straight ahead stuff. But you 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:35.960 can hook him and you don't you don't want that. 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:38.720 Not a single block. Now if you hooking him with 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.840 a double block, I don't care that leads my linebackers running, 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:45.199 but with a single block. So I'm looking at him, Okay, 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.800 five great plays them two. 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.000 That he didn't do what he needed to do. 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.840 So I'm looking for more consistency for him, and I'm 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.560 looking for a little bit more consistency from guiding it. 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:59.200 I'll beg with his technique. That's what he'll he'll he'll 0:17:59.200 --> 0:17:59.920 want to lean on you. 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.080 I don't think he don't believe that he's strongest what 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:03.960 he's so he'll kind of want to lean on you. 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.160 So that's what I noticed about that right there. 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:12.280 But like I said, the linebackers coming downhill, mazi uh 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:16.119 out of you know, just moving. 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:17.600 Like you said, he got clips of it. 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:21.239 Where he's moving when he's thinking about it. You know, 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:25.720 every every every snap, somebody should be tapping. They stay quick, 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:30.600 big fellas, stay quick because if he develops. 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:33.160 Into what we think he can be, we got something. 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:34.399 We'll have something special. 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:38.280 With Kendricks behind him at that middle linebacker, we will 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.280 have something special. A veteran with a young guy working 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:45.560 like that. So I was excited about yesterday because one 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:49.000 thing this team continues to do day in and day out, 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:51.080 and they've been here for about a week now, is 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:55.240 they're still moving quick. They're moving quick that they're giving 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:58.080 coach what they need to have, and that's quickness. 0:18:58.200 --> 0:18:59.800 And we didn't have a lot of off sides. 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:02.960 All all size was on the defense, all all sizes 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:03.440 on defense. 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:04.840 We didn't have a lot of that on the office. 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:07.200 So trying to let me know jump on Tomen so 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:11.359 that let me knows that guys that guys know what 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:11.840 they're doing. 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.119 Absolutely all right, Well, we have something special coming up 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.720 for you. 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That's what I mean the pads are on. 0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:26.000 He broke his helmet. He missed a few snaps because 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:28.240 he was getting a brand new helmet. Shouts to our 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.840 equipment staff for providing that for him being on the ready, 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:33.720 but he did miss a few snaps when he got 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:36.440 back in though he was up against Michael Parsons. Now, 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:39.359 I want to ask you, he's looking like a first 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:42.320 pick right now going up against Michael Parsons. But is 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:45.679 he ready for the onslaught of the first half of 0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:51.800 the season, which includes Miles Garrett, t J. Watt, Leonard Floyd? 0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:55.639 What are we thinking as we have this conversation with 0:22:55.720 --> 0:23:00.199 julat thirty first, No, m as he is trendy in 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:02.520 the first week of practice. How darre right, as he 0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:06.080 is trending, there is a very strong possibility that he 0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:08.840 will be ready for Miles Garrett in the Cleveland Browns 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:10.840 because it's the best way to get ready for a 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:14.440 Miles Garrett or TJ. Watt is to go against Michael Parsons, 0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:16.360 a guy like Michael Parsons in practice. And then when 0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:18.399 you see Tyler Goutton doing what he's able to do 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:22.960 against Michael Parsons, not once, not twice, but several times 0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:25.919 throughout the reps. Now, Michael Parsons he's gonna get his right, 0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:29.359 he's gonna win sooner or later and later than sooner. 0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:32.119 But the fact that Tyler Guitton is more than holding 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:35.480 his own against arguably the best defensive player in the league, 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:38.320 that has to let everybody know that goutt In has 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:40.640 the good. So now it's just about consistency. We're talking 0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:43.840 about that. You know, our breakfast is consistent inside joke, 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:47.040 But when you talk about Tyler Gotton, now it's about 0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:49.679 taking those good reps, tweaking what needs to be tweaked 0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:51.360 some of the things that Big Nate was pointing out, 0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:54.480 not necessarily leaning into your guy, trust, your strength and 0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:57.000 things like that, and then just building upon that from 0:23:57.040 --> 0:23:59.359 a REP to REP basis. But if you show me 0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:01.800 you can do something once, that tells me you can 0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:03.800 do it twice, and you can do it a hundred times. 0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:04.960 Now you just gotta go out there and do it. 0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:08.000 Just it's all about when when I'm when I'm working 0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:11.960 with young guys, and I think when the offensive line coaches. 0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.240 That I've had in my past, man, and. 0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:18.400 Uh, you what you do is you you you overemphasize 0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:21.640 that technique. Uh, and then you let the dog come 0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:24.840 out where it barks at and uh that that's right. 0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:27.359 That's what they're trying to get them. Stay technique sound 0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:30.080 because as a left tackle, you're gonna face them bealler 0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:32.360 renals man, them raging bulls. 0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:34.120 That got baller renal feet out there on them edge. 0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:37.760 So you have to always be technique sound because at 0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:39.920 the end of the day, that's what's gonna save a 0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:43.000 left tackle. Now, right tackle, they can get handsy, they 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:45.679 can get physical and mean, but at the end of 0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:48.600 the day, eighty percent of the guys you face are 0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:52.000 gonna be those quick, fast twitch, muscle type guys and 0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:54.120 they're gonna be able to spend with with with great 0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:58.080 uh great energy and explosion. And everything they do is 0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:01.600 a burst, whether it's a dipping the help, disappearing with 0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:05.720 the hip, just turning the corner with a low waist, everything. 0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:06.639 Is based off explosion. 0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:08.560 Once they hit that fourth or fifth step, they turned 0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:10.840 into the quarterback and that's where he has to be 0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:12.920 good as a battleerina to be able to go back 0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:16.680 and forth and keep his knees bent, you know, and 0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:20.920 not lean into it because a lot of times when 0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:22.960 you're having a good practice, so you feel you're having 0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:25.000 a good practice, you forget about that technique Like I'm 0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:27.000 a dog this guy, you know what I'm saying, And 0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:28.399 all of a sudden, that's when. 0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:31.199 Miles Garrett, Michael Parsons. 0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:33.119 Or the kid from Pittsburgh, that's when they'll leave you 0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:34.600 standing there exactly. 0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:36.320 So sorry. 0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:39.199 So the technique has to be a very very uh 0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:42.879 uh with a with a left tackle that had a 0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:46.600 left tackle and a center those two positions has to 0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:50.800 be technique mentally tough. Like I saw him yesterday. He 0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:53.240 made up, he made he didn't make a good play. 0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:56.720 It was a soso play, you know, And I wanted 0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:59.200 to walk up to him and say, you're big. You're 0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:02.320 a big corner back, baby, you're cornerback. And people say, 0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:04.360 what do you mean by that? Cornerback can get beat 0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:06.840 for a bomb, come back and get a pick. You 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:08.480 can get beat for a sack, come back and have 0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:11.400 the winning block for the touchdown. So that's you gotta 0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:14.600 have that cornerback. Look at what your technique was, readjust 0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:16.480 your technique and let's go play again. 0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:20.880 What about Tyler Gordon, Like, what technique are you most 0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:23.000 impressed with so far of his play. 0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:24.119 He got nice feet. 0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:27.399 He got he got nice feet, So that that's been 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:29.879 the redirect and everything. When when the other day when 0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:32.040 your boys spent on him and Parson spent on him, 0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:34.159 and he went back there and there with the greatest 0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:35.920 v that I would have threw a lot of dudes off. 0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:41.080 I would have threw a lot of dudes But he 0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:41.600 can't stressed. 0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:45.119 Yeah, he he's doing what he needs to do to 0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:49.919 maintain and and and like my man Patrick said, just 0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.760 continue to build on what you did yesterday. I'm that 0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:56.520 I'm that guy that some people are gonna get better. 0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:59.680 Ass training camp go on, and some people gonna level off, 0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:02.000 and then some people are gonna fall off the wagon. 0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:04.760 And what you want is that guy to continue to 0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:07.480 get better, continue to get better, and to the point 0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:09.159 where he's a perfect machine. 0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:10.760 In that way when he. 0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:13.800 Faced the miles garrets of the world and other guys 0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:16.720 when attention, when attension, it's really ratched up. 0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:18.840 Yeah, now you're ready. 0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:21.480 I think people need to keep in mind and some 0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:24.560 may may know and have forgotten, some may not know 0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:28.280 at all. There is one key reason why Tyler Gotton's 0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:32.520 feet are exceptional. And that's because he's a former basketball player, right. 0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.800 He wasn't converted to football until high school. And he 0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:38.240 said it when we spoke with him after the draft 0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:41.880 pick was made. He said that in high school his 0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.359 goal was to be in the NBA. So this is 0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:46.440 a big man who had been working on his footwork 0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:50.360 his entire life as an inside the paint guy, right, 0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:52.800 so he gets to bring that and transition that and 0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.479 translate that to the NFL game. And that's why you 0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:59.880 see reps like yesterday, for example, Michael Parsons to get off, 0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.040 it's so quick that you could argue that it was 0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:04.960 off sides in that instance. If you slow it down, 0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:09.560 what you see was guy in felt Parsons stayed downfield 0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:11.360 with his eyes to make sure there wasn't an additional 0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.040 block and he needed the block and then had the 0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:15.879 feats to still be able to get lateral and wall 0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:19.280 off Michael Parsons. That kind of footwork is exceptional. And 0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:21.560 I talked to Tyler Smith about it yesterday, and Tyler 0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:23.960 Smith and this is his quote. I've been truly impressed. 0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.280 It's not that often you find a human being six seven, 0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:29.040 three thirty who has feet like that and he end 0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:33.040 quote and he's not wrong. So his base literally and 0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:37.159 figuratively speaking is exceptional. And like with Big Nate and 0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.720 I are saying, if he can just continue to take 0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:42.760 steps forward. I had an off the cuff conversation with 0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:45.560 Tyler yesterday. Tyler Gutton, I should say. One thing stuck 0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:47.320 out to me. He said, I'm not a rookie dog. 0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:49.040 I'm trying to be perfect. I'm trying to be the 0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:51.880 greatest ever. That that's a quote from your rookie first 0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:52.360 round pick. 0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:53.560 I love that. I love to hear that. 0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.840 Another battle that I wanted to touch on was brock 0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.760 Hoffman versus Mazzie Smith. Now we talked about this, we 0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:03.240 talked on this earlier. Brock Hoffman is not just letting 0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:05.160 Cooper BB take that center spot. 0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:14.400 He does not alternate at this point. No odoga guiding 0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:17.480 alternates depending on what the coach you want to see 0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:20.200 with what group and what This kid right now. 0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:21.720 Is winning the battle. It is early. 0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:23.600 They've been out here a little bit over a week 0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.959 and Hoffman ain't giving it up, and he didn't give 0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:32.080 it up yesterday in past rush. So they telling Cooper, 0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:34.880 if you want it, come get it, come and get it. 0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:39.040 Broncks is really like, you gotta come take this, you 0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.080 gotta come take this now. Do I believe that Cooper 0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:42.440 BB has the ability to do so? 0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:46.000 Yeah, dude, Yeah, dude. I ain't asked you about no ability. 0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:48.520 I'm asking you, will he take it? We ain't actually 0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:50.800 about no ability? I'm actually will he take it? 0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:52.680 Then I'm gonna hit you with a date line. I 0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:57.480 need to see first. You need to see first, and 0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:58.520 then we'll go from there. 0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:04.400 There we go. I love it. I love it. 0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:08.120 Now this battle? What's more important here? 0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:10.640 Do we want to see more from brock Hoffman or 0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:12.800 do we see more from Ozzie Smith? Or is it 0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.280 kind of battle man? 0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:16.600 I want to see the battle. 0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:19.760 I want to see Brock put so much pressure on 0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.800 Mazi to get Mazi where he needs to be. See 0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:25.440 one thing about I think all of us who are 0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:29.840 sitting up here, uh, we're not quick to say this 0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:34.520 guy bus this guy because some guys take a minute, 0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:37.240 and we were fortunate last year to have a few 0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:40.520 guys that could play that position. But he they're asking 0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:42.880 a lot of him to this year, so he has 0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.960 no room now to kind of think about it. It's 0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:49.360 yours go get it, demand that you keep it. 0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:52.080 And we need for Brock, we need for b B. 0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:55.960 Cooper, we need for the guards to have constant pressure 0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:59.000 on him so he can understand that there's no off 0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:03.160 days for me, there's no off days for Mazzie Smith. 0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:04.920 I do want to see more. 0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:07.680 I would like to see more of a first team 0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:10.000 rotation between Brock and Cooper so we can see what 0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:13.400 Cooper has. But that being said, it's also true that 0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:17.000 one area that Cooper BB is needing to work on, 0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:20.560 Brock Hoffman already has more or less downpat which is 0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:22.880 like shotgun snaps and things like that. That's why Cooper 0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.680 BB is working so hard on snap snap snaps. So 0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:29.240 until Cooper BB gets that down, my thought process is 0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:33.280 it is likely the same as Celari the offensive line 0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:37.240 coach and Mike McCarthy in that him being a rookie, 0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.800 Cooper BB, if you put him on first team, he's 0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.320 so focused on trying to get the snap right that 0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.240 maybe he blows a protection. 0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:44.640 Yeah. 0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:47.160 Right, And if you're talking about, like Nate saying, if 0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:50.480 you're talking about wanting the best possible person to also 0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:54.040 push Mozzie Smith right now. On July thirty first, that's 0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:56.440 going to be brock Hoffman because Brock is not thinking 0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:58.920 about the snap. It's muscle memory for him. He's just 0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:02.400 perfecting this technique there, but he's snapping his hands up, 0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:04.720 all right, So think about it in that capacities. Well, 0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.000 I'm I'm confident that before it's all said and done, 0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.800 between now and the end of preseason let me finish, 0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:15.440 Cooper Babe will have gotten a good bit of first 0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:18.480 team reps. Does that mean he'll beat out brock k 0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:21.360 Hoffman effective week one? That's still to be determined. But 0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:23.840 I am still standing on the hill, and I said 0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:26.440 this after the pick. I am on the hill that 0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:28.400 Tyler Gutton will be your week one. Start at left, 0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:33.120 talk left, chuckle, all right, do you see am I 0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:36.200 being proven wrong thus far? 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Today the Talking Cowboys. 0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:11.160 Welcome back to this Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented 0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:14.000 by Black Raffle Coffee. This segment is brought to you 0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:17.880 by Invisi Line, the official smile of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:24.600 Let's give him the pearly Whites thing. What were laughing at, Nate? 0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:29.960 I didn't give. I forgot because I was somebody distracted. 0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:32.800 He zoned out. Come on, Nate Squirrel. 0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:37.279 Yeah, well, I'm putting the pressure on you now, much 0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:40.680 like the pressure drill yesterday. 0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:42.720 That's transition, definitely. 0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:43.600 Yeah. 0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:46.480 I'll keep doing that all right. The pressure drill yesterday, 0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:48.520 it was entertaining. I love that. That was my favorite 0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:52.040 part of practice yesterday. You had offensive defense, first team, 0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:55.360 second team going at it. One thing I noticed yesterday 0:35:55.360 --> 0:36:01.439 in the practice drill was a number eleven linebacker. 0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:06.160 Michael Parsoners. Michael Parsons. 0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:09.520 That guy was dropping into coverage as a linebacker during 0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:13.400 the pressure drill yesterday. Boys novel idea for Mike Zimmer 0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:16.840 throwing Michael Parsons into the linebacker spot. How do we 0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:19.360 feel about his reps at linebacker? 0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:22.640 Me personally, I love it. I was one of the 0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:26.840 last holdouts when he was transitioning earlier in his career, 0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:29.480 which he is still early, he's in fourth year. 0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:32.200 I wanted him to spend his first few. 0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:36.400 Years at linebacker, keeping those instincts in tack so he 0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:39.279 could be a multiple threat all over the field. And 0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:42.600 I just feel I just feel like he if he 0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:47.040 let this and allow this to happen with enthusiasm and 0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:50.279 attacking what Zimmer's acting him doing, I think he'll he 0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:52.960 could be that next level player. I'm talking about my 0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:56.120 next type of next level player, not the basic fan. 0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:57.680 Next level player. 0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:03.640 W stands for weapon, and that's what I've always wanted 0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:06.120 Michael Parsons to be for the Cowboys. I did not 0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:10.320 want them to relegate him to either off ball linebacker 0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:14.080 or defensive end. My thing is keep him moving around. 0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:17.920 Make it a game of where's waldough for opposing offenses. 0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:20.000 And if you can do that, that is going to 0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:23.120 free up a lot of plays for other guys because 0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.160 Michael He's still going to make his plays as well, 0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:27.360 of course, so seeing him, you know, drop back and 0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:30.160 coverage a time or two, I have no problem with it. 0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:30.719 I like it. 0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:34.520 If only for the fact that it keeps the offense guessing, 0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:37.399 and if for that reason alone, keep it coming, mix 0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:37.719 it up. 0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:37.960 No. 0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:39.840 I think back to his rookie year when he was 0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:42.239 talking about being the queen on the chess board. You know, 0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:44.279 it's like, you don't know where he's going to go. 0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:48.280 You don't he can make any move basically on the chessboard, 0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:52.360 And I think that's relevant for what we're seeing now. 0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:57.120 Granted he was not Denni. He's an elite pass rusher, 0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:00.360 there's no doubt about it. But seeing him in Mores 0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:02.680 on the field is going to result. Like you said, 0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:04.480 he's going to be a weapon on the field. They 0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:05.960 don't know where he's going. 0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:07.400 Right, And he's dropped a little bit of weight so 0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:09.239 that he can be able to do things like that. 0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:11.239 So when he does drop back and coverage, he's not 0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:13.120 doing it just for the sake of going through the 0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:15.239 motions of the play, but he's doing it because he 0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:17.120 wants to be effective back there and be able to 0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:19.800 actually cover and maybe make a play. So he's playing 0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:22.200 at a little bit of a lighter weight this year. 0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:25.520 He said he feels better, he feels greater, and it 0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:28.240 will help with his conditioning as the games roll along, 0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:30.839 so that when the playoffs come along, he's not as 0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:33.719 worn down, not as tired. So yeah, keep moving them around, 0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:35.040 Mike Zimmer, do you think. 0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:37.440 This is what made me laugh? And I've told you 0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:39.720 this several times sitting at the dinner table. 0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.880 If you tell me we've had Michael. 0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:47.480 Parson's gonna be sitting at one defense at the right 0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:54.520 defensive end eighty percent of the game, any coordinator worth 0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:56.480 his saw say you just lost. 0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:59.160 Yep, you may get your sack or two, but you. 0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:02.080 Just help over there. We know where he's at. 0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:04.800 But if you put him at linebacker down line on 0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:07.880 which he's done done at all in this short training camp. 0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:12.279 Now I'll give you a quick scenario. Line him up 0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:17.239 at linebacker, Devis Evan linebacker. Now you bring up, you 0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:21.360 bring Jordan Lewis outside. All of a sudden, I'm screaming 0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:25.359 as a tackle. Trio, trio, trio. I'm bringing everybody this way. 0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:29.800 And you got Tank over there by himself, easy money. 0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:31.080 You get what I'm saying. 0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:33.040 You got to take over there by hisself, and and 0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:37.520 your boy drop out. He drop out, say Parksy drop out. 0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:39.719 Now you free everybody up to be one on one. 0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:44.080 Come on, man, free money, come on lunch, free lunch. 0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:46.160 Thank you. 0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:51.000 Now, speaking of linebacker, there's another one on this team 0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:53.480 that's showing out big time in practice and. 0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:55.000 That is Eric Kendry. 0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:59.760 Now a year ago today, I was here at training 0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:02.120 camp up watching linebackers and I was like, it's really 0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:04.799 hard to judge linebacker play, isn't it. Like you're at 0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.680 training camp like there's that there's no full tackles, so 0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:13.240 you can't really judge. This year with some actual linebackers 0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:18.279 with Eric Kendricks safety drop down to line exactly. With 0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:20.759 Eric Kendricks out there, I'm like, oh, this is what 0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:25.480 a linebacking corps looks like. He is absolutely and Brian 0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:27.920 Brod said this yesterday. He's as good as advertised. He 0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:31.520 is killing it up the middle. How do we feel 0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:33.200 about Eric Eric Kendricks play so far? 0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:38.800 It makes it makes the ring game on both sides 0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:42.879 better because if a guard a center don't come out 0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:45.560 and play him right with the right technique, he gonna 0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:47.400 get up on them and drive him back. Are he 0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:50.120 gonna give him a soft shoulder and fall off and 0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:52.319 make the play. So you're gonna have to square up 0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:53.920 on him. You got to learn how to drop your 0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:56.439 butt all over again and move him out of there. 0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:59.279 Uh and so now and all of a sudden, when 0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:02.399 you when you got a toss player outside tackle play, 0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:04.640 you gotta get on your horse and run because he 0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:07.720 gonna know how to hit either the AB or C gap. 0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:11.200 And so whereas you got a safeists who don't really 0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:13.239 run run up in there and get that thing, this 0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:15.920 guy don't mind getting it when need be. I'll give 0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:18.040 you a soft shoulder when need be. That's the veteran 0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:20.800 type guy. He knowing the thump and he knowing the plays. 0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:24.280 Off when Eric Kendricks had his first team All Pro season, 0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:28.000 he did two things exceptionally well. He covered and he 0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:30.560 went downhill to stop the run. You know what, We're 0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:32.920 seeing him do exceptionally well this offseason, all the way 0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:37.120 up through yesterday's practice. Cover and run downhill to stop 0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:40.879 the run. So I could not be more pleased from 0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:43.719 what I'm seeing from Eric Kendricks. He is absolutely in 0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:47.000 top form. He looks extremely comfortable, which just that tracks 0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:48.360 because he's back with Zimmer. 0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:50.640 There is not an install that he's having to learn. 0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:54.239 He's plugging play in this particular playbook with this defensive coordinator. 0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:57.560 The only thing for Eric Kendricks is bringing along the 0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:00.279 other linebackers behind him, getting them up to be as 0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:03.920 quickly as possible. But as far as what Kendricks is doing, yeah, 0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:06.400 John wickstyle, I'm thinking he's back. 0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:10.080 Absolutely, and it kind of puts things into perspective. Whenever 0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:13.640 he was going to sign with San Francisco ultimately choosing 0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:16.120 to sign with the Dallas Cowboys, it kind of puts 0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:20.720 it in perspective. With Mike Zimmer being here, I'm I'm 0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:23.800 I'm feeling this. I really am the linebacking corps overall. 0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:27.640 I mean, if you add in Marvin Overshown as well, 0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:30.080 and remember this, it's something to feel confident about it. 0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:35.040 Remember this most definitely remember this. Please remember this. 0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:40.200 Mazie is a part of the linebacking Corps. Mazzie Smith 0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:42.960 number fifty eight. I'm glad he got a linebacker number. 0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:47.439 He is a part of that, him and Big Roger 0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:50.480 because they if he suck up more than one block, 0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:54.840 these guys gonna come downhill with wide open lanes like 0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:57.080 a running back and they're gonna be filling holes. 0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:00.520 And that is the key. Mazie. You are a linebacker, baby, 0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:01.200 get off the snap. 0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:02.799 That smell like science. I like that. 0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:10.960 Yeah, watch it, he got some good Yeah, that's that 0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:12.560 black rifle, Dode. You tell me. 0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:16.160 He's ready to go like that. 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:17.200 Yeah. 0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:20.400 The linebacker play is something to behold here here at 0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:20.960 training camp. 0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:22.360 It's it's a really night and. 0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:23.880 Day early training camp here. 0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:26.879 I mean, and it's early, and it's early unheralded guys. 0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:29.440 I asked Mike McCarthy about this in his press conference yesterday. 0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:31.359 I said, this time last year, you know, you were 0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:34.120 dealing with the injury to the marve On Overshown. Ultimately 0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:36.120 before the season was over, you had the injury to 0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:39.120 Layton Vanderish, who was forced to medically retire. You were 0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:41.000 in such dire straits on the depth chart that you 0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:42.920 had to move one of your safeties down the linebacker. 0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:45.760 You only had one true linebacker that was the Moon Clark. 0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:49.040 Fast forward to this training camp. We're talking about Eric Kendricks, 0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:51.799 the return of the Marion over shown, Damon Clark to 0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:54.719 take the next step, third round pick being used on foul, 0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:58.720 but then first practice, who got the first interception? Jason Johnson, 0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:01.920 undrafted free agent Buddy Johnson is out there making plays 0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:05.360 as well on special teams. There was a fourth down 0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:07.800 stop in a two minute drill, a couple of practices 0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:07.960 to go. 0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:12.200 Who made that? Rock Mogensen, Okay, undrafted guy. 0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:14.840 So not only has the linebacker court gotten depth, but 0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:17.319 as it stands, those unheralded guys they're stepping up and 0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:19.840 making some plays too. So, like you said, Josh, the 0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:22.279 linebacker player right now is a sight to behold. 0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:26.799 The first player to scrimp scrim but inside run fifty nine, 0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:28.560 Morgeson came down and telling you, I. 0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:34.239 Say, roguson brock Leser, I don't know what it is. 0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:36.000 Yeah, you're gonna gi him five. 0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:38.000 He's out there giving five. 0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:45.239 Yeah, the beast and Carnate. I'll just drop more. I 0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:46.880 do want to say I caught this. 0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:49.799 Turfy. 0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:56.480 No, we're making it happen, tweeted us. And I do 0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:58.880 want to say, you know, all of this said with 0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:01.080 an ounce of caution, because I don't want to say 0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:05.520 the linebacker early training campus just what we're seeing, because 0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:09.360 we're not saying, first everything is perfect, We're going to 0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:12.560 this game, that game, nothing like that. It's training camp, 0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:15.640 the season as it started. Yet We're just observing what 0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:17.320 we see out there, out from. 0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:20.640 Going out, far from leaving this show. 0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:25.799 About thirty seconds, everybody hand everybody hand Interby Turby. 0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:31.840 No, no, no, I'm done. I can't work under these conditions. 0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:34.680 Chris Pine, Do you. 0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:39.800 Guys want to do one more question? Last question before 0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:42.960 we end the show. Who are some backup players fans 0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:45.560 should be keeping their closer eye on in the coming weeks. 0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:50.560 Billy White Shoes Johnson, Billy, that's my man. I mean, 0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:52.160 I hope you don't let me down. Bro, I hope 0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:54.240 you don't fall off the off the rails. 0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:56.839 Come on, come on, I'm gonna go with them. 0:45:57.480 --> 0:45:59.640 Let's go on the defensive. So let's talk Chauncey Holston. 0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:02.839 I'm gonna say Chauncey Golston. I say that because he's 0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:05.840 going into a contract season, and even before Sam Williams 0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:08.480 went down to him, they're going to need him to 0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:10.400 step up and be big. Now they're really going to 0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:12.759 need it, especially in assistance to rookie second round pick 0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:16.560 Marshawn Neeland. Saw a couple reps yesterday. Well, Chauncey Gholston 0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:19.880 looked good. One of the pressure plays on the pressure reps. 0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:22.720 He actually beat Tyler Smith with a quick ship yes, 0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:25.720 and got he teleported into the backfield. Now, of course 0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:27.919 Tyler Smith he got his link back on the very 0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:30.279 next play and he walled Chauncey off. But the fact 0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:32.359 that Chauncey was able to at least beat an all 0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:35.640 pro when Tyler Smith shows that there might be definitely 0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:37.279 something there as far as building going forward. 0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:39.759 So Chauncey, Chauncey Ghoston, I'm looking at him. 0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:44.040 Number thirteen is Tyron Billy Johnson, it is, And Chauncey 0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:45.200 is what numbers. 0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:47.279 Us, I don't have my roster in front of me. 0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:55.279 Chaunce chn Goldstein is uh ninety nine. 0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:57.600 So I want to make sure because I'm trying to 0:46:57.680 --> 0:46:59.960 learn relearn numbers and numbers. 0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:00.720 And stuff has been changing. 0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:03.919 Yeah, I want to make sure I'm correct. But I'm 0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:07.760 telling you, Uh, the D line is moving swift. 0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:08.160 Yeah. 0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:12.640 I mean, Sam love you, hope you get recover well, 0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:14.760 But his D line is moving. 0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:18.200 Swift mine for at least for now. And I saw 0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:20.840 him yesterday. I had a lot of really great reps. 0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:22.959 And this is mainly because he was on my side 0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:24.760 and I kind of have to like head in pretty 0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:26.440 early for practice. But he was on my side and 0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:30.480 I saw him catching, catching a lot and some athletic 0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:34.280 catches at that. Deontay Burnett, he just came in number 0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:36.479 six on the wide receivers. He won't keep that number 0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:38.040 because that is Donovan wil Man. 0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:39.080 You know what. 0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:40.960 He always try to get the new guys man. 0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:44.040 No, I'm just saying for what I see coming in 0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:46.680 from the UFL, seeing what he's able to do out 0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:47.200 here already. 0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:49.240 Granted he's already conditioned. He was just playing. 0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:51.719 Football a couple of weeks ago. I like what I 0:47:51.719 --> 0:47:54.759 see from Kelvin Harmon as well. 0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:57.280 Sorry about the Cowboys and scouting. 0:47:57.320 --> 0:47:58.640 I'm stinging with my thirteen. 0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:01.319 That's fair, that's fair. All right, we got to head out. 0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:04.120 Thank you so much for listening to Talking Cowboys. 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