WEBVTT - Episode 01: Friendly Universe 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:04.680 High Strange is released every Friday and brought to you 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:09.560 absolutely free but the ad free listening, exclusive bonuses, and 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:14.080 early access to episodes. Subscribe to tenderfoot Plus at tenderfootplus 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:23.200 dot com or on Apple Podcasts. The views and opinions 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:27.280 expressed in this podcast are solely those of the podcast 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:31.240 author or individuals participating in the podcast, and do not 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:36.760 represent those of iHeartRadio, tenderfoot TV, or their employees. This 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:41.199 episode contains references to sexual assault and sexual violence. 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:43.519 Listener discretion is advised. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:54.279 Thanks in beating all right over here, I know you're 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:58.560 short on time. I'll just get right to it. Can 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.880 you paint a picture for me? Starting with that first night? 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:04.200 I will do it. 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:09.480 December the twenty sixth, nineteen eighty five. I had a 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:15.480 nice day with my family, went to bed, and in 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.839 the middle of the night, became aware of the fact 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:22.720 that there were noises around me. Felt like I was 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.200 in a room full of people and I was supposed 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:26.480 to be in my bedroom alone. 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:27.560 With my wife. 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:28.959 It was just something wrong. 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:35.480 I couldn't get up, couldn't rise off the bed, and 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:38.759 then I realized I'm not on my bed. I saw 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:42.119 these big black eyes peering at me from about two 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:42.760 feet away. 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:46.400 I remembered those faces, and they weren't human. 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.040 This morning, I woke up, grabbed my phone before my 0:01:56.120 --> 0:02:01.200 eyes were even open. Notifications, texts alert, I should just 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.720 go back to sleep, but I don't. Weather app says 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:08.400 we're fine. The news app says we're doomed. Calendar app 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:13.080 is already mad at me. Internal reminder, stand up, drink 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:18.960 some water inhil for five seconds. Baks sale for seven. 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:23.000 I need some coffee twenty three dollars to get it delivered. 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:28.040 Sure, why not? Time to shower. Business on top, sweatpants 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:28.600 on the bottom. 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.359 I went to my office, which is also my house, 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:37.720 which is also just my laptop. Now Zoom calls one 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:41.520 with cameras on, one with cameras off. A few emails, 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:45.520 a few written by me, a few written by machines. 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:53.480 Auto reply Instagram TikTok nah, back to Instagram, Hey chat? 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:59.080 Does this sound insane? Someone's launching a podcast, someone's quitting 0:02:59.080 --> 0:02:59.960 social media? 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:00.560 Me too. 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.800 I'll be back in an hour. Does she see my story? 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:08.160 My iPhone tells me my screen time is concerning. Do 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:10.760 not disturb stays on twenty four to seven. I'm in 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:14.760 control of my own destiny. Lunchtime, nothing in the fridge. 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.639 I'll just eat a big dinner. Pause to apply to 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:22.720 a message, I'll forget the second I send it. Scroll again. Lol, 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:26.520 is so funny. My algorithm is getting weird? Is anyone 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:27.440 checking this stuff? 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:29.079 Back to work? 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:32.360 I have more tabs open than my brak and handle. 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.160 I should really clean my desktop. This meeting should have 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:39.040 been an email. This email should have been a thought. 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:43.200 You kept to yourself, left the office which was my couch, 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:49.280 picked up some dinner. Time for a phone call. That 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:55.560 bartender does make a good Manhattan though. I'll have one 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:00.440 time to go to sleep? Or should I browse Netflix 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:04.080 for an hour? First started a movie, stopped at twelve 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:08.480 minutes in. Now I'm annoyed and fully awake. How is 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:11.680 it only Tuesday? I really need to go to sleep 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:13.720 for real this time? 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:15.920 Good night. 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:23.839 We all have a version of this, A routine, a pattern, 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.760 a loop if you're not careful, a hamster wheel with 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:33.960 better WiFi, work, relationships, money, health, politics, algorithms deciding what 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.800 we should care about today. But I do my own research, 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:44.840 now you don't. There's always something filling the space, always, Noise, always, motion, 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:51.880 always something new and always the same old thing. We're 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:56.440 being told something insane. That the universe is massive, maybe 0:04:56.520 --> 0:05:02.240 even infinite, That there's planets like ours everywhere, that intelligent 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:06.839 life elsewhere is statistically a fact. That pilots are seeing 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:11.920 things they can't explain. That the government studies UFOs, it 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:12.919 calls them UAPs. 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.719 Now I like the first one better. 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.039 That they don't know what they are, but they know 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:24.719 they're not aliens. Wait, what disclosure didn't happen? It got 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:30.200 pushed notifications instead, And somehow we're just bored now, one 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.400 more headline, just another scroll. 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:36.640 It's not that the question isn't big enough. 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:42.599 It's that our brains are exhausted, even if aliens exist, 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:47.479 even if we're not alone, even if the universe is 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:51.360 crawling with something we can't see. Either way, my alarm 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:55.680 set for tomorrow morning. And either way, I still have 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.760 shit to do. This season isn't about asking you for 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:04.240 a while, that questions tired and the answers are boring 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:08.960 at this point. This season is about something bigger and stranger. 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:10.760 It's about why one. 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:14.080 Of the biggest revelations in human history lands like an 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:18.400 item on a grocery list, A shrug a big whoopedee 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:22.920 do because maybe the strangest thing now isn't what's out there, 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:25.320 it's us. 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.400 Okay, let's do this. 0:06:35.800 --> 0:07:00.160 Welcome to season two of High Strange. 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.760 The US Navy is finally acknowledged that video is appearing 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:07.280 to show UFOs flying through the air Are real? Videos 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.920 are talking about? Were recording years ago by fighter pilots. 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.760 Then in twenty seventeen they were made public by The 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:13.960 New York Times. 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:19.560 While refreshing our feeds. Something loud happened. Actually a lot 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:20.600 of loud things happened. 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:25.120 Images of that rotating thing captured by US Navy aircraft 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.400 sensors locking in on the target like a forty foot 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:33.600 long tic tac, maneuvering rapidly and changing direction. 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:36.720 I never thought I'd get to the place where in now. 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.360 I never thought twenty seventeen would ever happen. Then I'd 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:42.680 be part of it? Are you kidding me? 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.760 This is Leslie keen Ja helped break the big New 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:49.920 York Time story in twenty seventeen. That was nine years ago. 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:54.040 This interview is from twenty twenty two. At the time, 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:56.560 it almost sounded like she was getting ahead of herself, 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:00.440 like she was talking things up. Listening back now, it's 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:03.240 clear she wasn't predicting things. She was tracking it. 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.720 Nothing really shifting, and then all of a sudden, major 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:11.520 shift happens. I'm waiting for the moment where they would 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:15.880 be willing to say it's not from planet Earth, it's 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:20.280 not made by human hands. They have not been willing 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:25.120 to shut that door, tell the world that this is 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:31.640 something not made by humans, which they know. They're not 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.440 saying it like that. I mean, that might sound pretty 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:37.960 weird to people, but I've been setting it for twenty 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:42.240 two years, and I've watched the whole evolution what people 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.480 are saying but they're not saying. I've gotten access to 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:50.880 a lot of insiders. Legislation that's about to pass giving 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.880 protection by the Congress two whistleblowers to be able to 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.440 go before Congress and tell them what they know. 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.160 Protection is for people. 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:06.000 If there is going to be something released regarding materials 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.640 that they might have parts of a crashed saucer or 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:14.840 who knows what. These people now can reveal things that 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:16.840 they've had to keep secret in the past. 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.760 In the years that followed, everything she hinted at all 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:33.080 started happening. Legal protections were passed, whistleblowers were cleared to testify. 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.319 I don't have any evidence or proof the government has 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.559 some UFO materials in their custody. 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.079 But enough people from that world the. 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:44.280 Pentagon intelligence agencies say they've heard. 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:44.960 About this stuff. 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.640 This is Brian Bender, who also helped break the massive 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.600 twenty seventeen UFO story. 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:55.360 I even asked the question in a Pentagon briefing. Some 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.000 of US reporters were brought in, and my question was, 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.840 are you also looking to see whether there might have 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:08.160 been secret programs in the past, multiple layers of secrecy 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:15.600 that might reveal things about UFOs crash materials that even 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.480 people in the Pentagon today might not have any idea about. 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.720 I'm just really interested in seeing what happens. I just 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:24.839 want to watch it all happen. 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:27.120 These are questions worth asking. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.240 And then something crazy happened. 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:40.600 A public Congressional hearing on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena. 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:43.400 The Subcommittee Hearing on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena or UAPs will 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:48.040 come to order, welcome everyone without objection. 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:52.080 The share may declare a recess at any time. I 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.080 flew to the Capitol and was there in person. 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:59.640 Security was tight, phones were checked, badges everywhere. 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.520 The whole vibe of the room felt heavier than it 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.680 should have do. I absolutely the UFOs are. 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.719 Good morning and welcome to the most exciting subcommittee in 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.680 Congress this week, the Subcommittee on National Security of the 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:19.480 Border in Foreign Affairs for discussion of Unidentified Anomalist Phenomenon. 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:23.679 I like to thank the witnesses on the panel today 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:26.960 for sharing their stories on how they've engaged UAPs, which 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:28.520 has brought attention to this matter. 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:34.360 Mister Chairman, Ranking members and Congressmen, thank you. I'm happy 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.400 to be here. This is an important issue and I'm 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:44.400 grateful for your time. My name is David Charles Grush. 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.400 Entered David Grush. This is when the tone took a 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:51.040 sharp turn. This wasn't a podcaster, This wasn't some guide 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:51.800 chasing attention. 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.880 I was an intelligence officer for fourteen years. I was 0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:00.800 my agency's co lead and Unidentified Anomalist Phenomena trans Medium 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:05.240 Object Analysis, as well as reporting to the UAP Task 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:12.080 Force through a PPD nineteen Urgent Concern filing. I became 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:17.240 a whistleblower following concerning reports from multiple esteems and credential 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:22.320 current and former military and Intelligence community individuals that the 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:27.880 US government is operating with secrecy above congressional oversights with 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:32.480 regards to UAPs. My testimony is based on information I've 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:36.320 been given by individuals with a long standing track record 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:38.920 of legitimacy and service to this country. 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:43.040 A whistleblower who formerly worked on the Defense Department's UAP 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:46.680 Task Force, David Grutch, claims he has denied access to 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:53.840 information on a government UFO crash retrieval program. 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:57.240 I was informed in the course of my official duties 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:04.760 of a multi decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program. 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:06.640 Mister Grist, do you believe that our government is in 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:07.760 possession of UAPs? 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.920 Absolutely? Based on interviewing over forty witnesses over. 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:16.880 Four years, did you have any personal knowledge if people 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.760 had been harmed or injured in efforts to cover up 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.280 or conceal these extraterrestrial technology. 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:33.160 Yes, personally, it was very brutal and very unfortunate some 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.559 of the tactics they used to hurt me, both professionally 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:37.600 and personally. 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:42.400 To be quite frank, have anyone been murdered that you 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.560 know of or have heard of? I have to be 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:49.360 careful asking that question. I directed people with that knowledge 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:53.560 to the appropriate authorities. In the last couple of years, 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:57.040 have you had incidences that have caused you to be 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.360 in fear for your life for addressing these issues? 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:02.400 Yes, personally, Okay, I just. 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:05.240 Want everyone to note that he's coming forward in fear 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:05.840 of his life. 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.040 To put in perspective if they were really not scared 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.360 about this information coming out, why would someone be intimidated 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:11.600 like that? 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.920 As a yes, government become aware of actual evidence of 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:20.120 extra dress or otherwise unexplained forms of intelligence, And if so, 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:21.800 when do you think this first occurred. 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:24.760 I'll like to use the term non human outlate to 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.840 denote origin, certainly previously in nineteen thirties. 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:33.600 I'm pretty skeptical. I don't trust anything in this town, 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:36.000 and I think that's because I'm from Missouri. 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:36.880 You've got to show me. 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.720 With that being said, there's been a lot of things 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:44.800 that have been said, and so I want to get 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:49.440 down to some specifics. At one point, you had said 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:53.280 that there has been harmful activity or progressive activity. Has 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:58.040 any of the activity been aggressive and hostile? 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.960 I know of multiple colleagues of mine that got physically injured. 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:11.480 By UAPs or by people within the federal gop cove. Okay, 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:16.840 so there has been activity by alien or non human 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:22.640 technology and or beings that has caused harm to humans. 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.920 I can't get into the specifics in an open environment, 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:32.880 at least the activity that I personally witnessed not to 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:37.960 be very careful here, what I personally witnessed myself and 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.160 my wife is very disturbing. 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.320 My view has been that we are billions of light 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:52.400 years away from any other system, and the concept that 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:56.440 an alien species that's technologically advanced enough to travel billions 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.640 of the light years gets here and somehow is incompetent 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:04.400 enough to not survive Earth or crashes is something that 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:08.600 I find a little bit far fetched. You have mentioned 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:12.560 that there's interdimensional the potential. Could you expeand on that. 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:16.680 I answer your first question, and young, here is a fact. 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:18.720 What is an expert? But I will give you a 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:24.800 theoretical framework and WEAST will work off regardless of you 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.480 know your level of sentience right, you know, planes crash, 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:31.800 cars crash, and number of sorties however high a small 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.400 percentage you're going to end and you know mission failure fool, 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:39.720 as we say in the Air Force. And then in 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:43.680 terms of multi dimensionality, that kind of thing. The framework 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:47.200 that I'm familiar with, for example, is something called the 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:54.000 holographic principle. It derives itself from general relativity and Swan mechanics. 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:58.240 If you want to imagine three objects such as yourself 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:03.080 casting a shadow onto a two surface, that's the holographic principle. 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:06.720 So you can be projected quasi projected from higher dimensional space. 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.960 Things showing up at certain areas and disabling our capabilities, 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:11.680 which is disheartening. 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:13.240 And for us. 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.879 I mean, like I said, it completely disabled to rate 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:17.320 OAR in the aircraft when I try to do and 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:18.960 the only way we could see it as passively, which 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.280 is how you got that image. So I think that's 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.239 a concern on what are these doing, not only how 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.320 they operate, but their capabilities inside to do things like this. 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:31.600 You've said that the. 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.440 Government is a possession of potentially non human. 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:40.560 Spacecraft based on your experience and extensive conversations with experts, 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:50.639 do you believe our government has made contact with intelligent extraterrestrials. 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:51.600 Something I can't discuss a bublbic setting. And do you 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:53.440 believe we have crashed craft? 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.240 Do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted 0:17:57.280 --> 0:17:57.800 this craft. 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.160 As I've stated publicly already in my New Station interview, 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.800 biologics came with some of these recoveries. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:12.960 Yeah, where they I guess human or non human? 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:16.000 Biologics non human. 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:18.520 And that was the assessment of people with rect knowledge 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:20.359 on the program I talk to that are currently still 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:28.280 in program. 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:32.040 This was a former intelligence officer speaking under penalty of 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:38.240 law information was being hidden above Congressional oversight. When he 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:42.439 said the words crash retrieval program, the room went quiet, 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:47.920 and the questions shifted not just about what these things are, 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:49.359 but whether people have been hurt. 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:53.919 Congress's job is going to be to see what it 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:57.080 can do with the information and what it can verify 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:00.560 a lot of these raight sensitive programs. There's no paper 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:06.080 trail over the next year or two. How is that 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:13.959 going to play out? How many people will come forward? 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:18.160 And will there be repercussions against them for coming forward? 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:22.680 Under the law they're protected. You know, you just don't 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:25.840 know what might happen to them, because certainly there are 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:28.640 some people within the defense world who don't want people 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:33.080 to talk about this. One of the witnesses hate trying 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:37.199 to keep this secret. Right to have to sit on 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.639 this for years and years and years, and it's changed 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.480 your life, and it's caused tension and problems for you 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:45.280 and some people have nightmares or PTSD. 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:47.360 And just hope it works out. 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.119 The government is notorious for reinventing the wheel. 0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:59.720 I've been a reporter long enough to come across a 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:02.160 lot of stories where I'm like, why does this sound familiar? 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:05.679 Where there might have been a program, there might have 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:08.159 been a report, there might have been something, but it 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:11.639 was twenty thirty years ago. It's because they tried the 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.840 same damn thing twenty thirty years ago. You know, you 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:19.320 can't discount some of that in this topic too. The 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:21.879 guy who was in charge of that retired and didn't 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:23.720 pass it along to the next guy or gal. 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:25.320 It doesn't exist anymore. 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:31.119 It's going to be really hard for anyone in the 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:32.720 government to hide the stuff anymore. 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.879 In Washington, ghost like objects darted across the radar screen 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:46.000 at the CAAA Traffic Controls and Dirett National Airport for 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:46.720 several hours. 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:50.200 General Sandford, Air Force Intelligence. 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:53.040 Director confirms of the objects are not secret American weapons 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:56.600 and reiterates the Air Force's obligation to investigate. 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:00.920 Incredible observers of relatively incredible thing. 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:06.240 Even if you remove aliens altogether and just look at 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:10.480 this objectively, if even a fraction of this is true, 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:17.359 then something unknown is interacting with humans and causing actual harm. 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:22.520 Under oath, David Grush claimed people were physically injured, intimidated, 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:26.520 feared for their lives. This for me, is when the 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:29.879 whole thing stops being a belief debate. That's not a 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:35.200 conspiracy question. That's a science problem. And science is exactly 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:36.040 where I went next. 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:50.359 Flying saucers have in dated off planet. The whole world 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:52.760 is under attack, Hannant survived. 0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:59.000 I knew from the moment I was thinking anything that 0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:01.159 I wanted to be a scientists before, I guess I 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:02.399 evenknew what a scientist was. 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:06.480 This is Gary Nolan. He's not a UFO guy. 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:11.119 He's a data guy, a real scientist who lives in results, 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:16.320 measurements and what can and cannot be explained, being able. 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:18.080 To take things and put them together in ways that 0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:21.919 people hadn't thought of before and make something new. I 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:24.760 look for a need, I say, okay, well that's what 0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:28.600 we can't do today, and that's what we want to do. 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:30.360 You see this, and you see that and you put 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:33.400 it together and go, oh, I can make this tinkering 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:40.159 Today retrospect, I generally call it the inevitable. If I 0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:44.840 were to take your blood, there's neutrophils, macrophages, and K cells. 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:45.520 T cells, B cells. 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:49.640 You could only look at a few cell types at 0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:54.520 a time. So the field was crying out for an 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:59.640 ability to do more data. This guy at the University 0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:02.240 of Toronto had invented this instrument called CyTOF. 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:03.959 His name was Scott Tanner. 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:08.160 He was a developer of an instrument but didn't know 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:13.320 exactly how to apply it. He came to me and said, look, 0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:16.440 I know that you're good at turning ideas into reality. 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:20.720 Can you help me turn this into a tool for immunologists. 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:25.000 That instrument still sits at the top of the food chain, 0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:32.159 reading multiple events per sell. But even then I was 0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:35.280 already thinking, maybe there's another way I can do something 0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:40.040 get more data. So what I had done was found 0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:42.399 a way to scale up the numbers of things you 0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:45.560 can measure and tag at the same time. Hundreds of 0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:49.840 proteins and thousands of genes at a time. Was literally 0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:54.119 a patent idea. I remember just freezing and going where 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:57.080 the fuck, did that idea just come from boom? Like 0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:59.440 the whole idea, it felt like, was just like downloaded 0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:03.280 into my head. I mean, honest to God, who and 0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:05.920 what you think you are is a very thin sheen 0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:09.640 of consciousness across your brain, you know, the so called 0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:12.960 executive function of what you are. Meanwhile, there's all these 0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:15.600 things going on inside of your brain. They're actually running 0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:22.160 the show as a scientist. The argument is never about 0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:25.320 the conclusion. The argument is about is that data reel 0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:26.560 and was it collected correctly? 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:34.200 When he talks about the brain, he's not speculating. One day, 0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:38.199 many years ago, Gary's life and career would take a 0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:39.200 very bizarre turn. 0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:43.800 I'm sitting in my office to a knock on the door, 0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:48.120 and I opened the door and he shook guys. There 0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:53.760 were men, guys in suits and ties, military personnel. One 0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:57.000 of them presented his credentials and said, hey, we're with 0:24:57.000 --> 0:25:01.560 the CIA, and we have a whole bunch patients that 0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:06.600 are having some problems in my office. They laid out 0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:11.600 all of these MRIs and they wanted to know whether 0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:15.480 or not I could detect in the blood any evidence 0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:18.200 of the inflammatory events. 0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:25.040 He's describing damage the MRIs didn't lie in the timelines, 0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:29.520 didn't make sense. These injuries, whatever they were, should not 0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:30.560 exist the way they do. 0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:37.320 They had white matter disease in the brain. Inarguable, they 0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:39.560 didn't have it one day, two weeks later they did 0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:44.679 something like multiple sclerosis develops over years to get to 0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:45.879 the level of what I was seeing. 0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:49.560 They didn't have it. One day, two weeks later they did. 0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:55.920 What had happened was across the military these medical events. 0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:00.320 The Army is pretty organized and the services are pretty 0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:03.600 well organized. Despite what some people often think. There is 0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:06.359 a channel for unexplained events that go up the chain 0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:12.280 for review. There are analysts who said, okay, well this 0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:14.159 is weird. We don't know what it is. And it 0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:16.359 went over into what was they called the guys who 0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:19.080 came into my office. 0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:20.479 The weird bucket. 0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:27.040 When enough things in the weird bucket started adding up, 0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:35.760 actually showing similarities, that's where I got involved. They laid 0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:40.119 out all of these MRIs. They said, some of these 0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:43.640 people said that they'd gotten close to UFOs, that they 0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:44.679 got close to a UFO. 0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.080 So where they told you this? Did they literally say 0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:51.080 like they came in contact with the UFO. 0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:54.000