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Speaker 1: a little bit of creeping pessimism in Big Tech. We
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Speaker 1: a lot of optimism. There's big, cushy offices, windows everywhere,
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Speaker 1: you have to understand like that, whenever Greg sets up
Speaker 1: anything like that, you know he's about to insult somebody. Uh,
Speaker 1: it was your turn there, and you just have sometimes
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Speaker 1: it big show today. We have a guest Mike Gara, Folo.
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Speaker 1: join us on the show a little bit later. Um,
Speaker 1: I think we'll preview Steelers Ravens for the trifecta here,
Speaker 1: Why not again the last two shows? Why not do
Speaker 1: it a third time? Why not? Mark? Yes, I I
Speaker 1: I mean, look at I think we're getting We're rounding
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Speaker 1: precision will be felt by the listener this third time.
Speaker 1: I think it would be fun the preview Ravens Steelers
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Speaker 1: if the game does happen, just just just preview. I
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Speaker 1: we reach a higher plane of intelligence and we just
Speaker 1: know everything that happened before the game is played. We're
Speaker 1: one preview away from that, so we can't stop now.
Speaker 1: But before any of that, we do have to get
Speaker 1: to the penultimate game on the week twelve schedule. It
Speaker 1: went down in Philly Seahawks Eagles. Let's check it out
Speaker 1: and here comes a three man rushing a handoff and
Speaker 1: it girls rocked. The cardsman got a rock at the
Speaker 1: ten runes on the numbers, the five breaks to tackle,
Speaker 1: cartender taking turning, driving touchdown. Wow, water On, he's a bulldozer,
Speaker 1: He's a beast. Big time run Carson with a sixteen
Speaker 1: yard sledgehammer touchdown. Run the best, Kevin Harlan, Kevin Hall, Harland,
Speaker 1: Kevin Mother, Coline Westwood one. Chris Carson made it count
Speaker 1: his long run of the game, sixteen yards and he
Speaker 1: found the end zone, adding a little balance to the
Speaker 1: Seahawks offense and it paid off a twenty seventeen win
Speaker 1: over the Philadelphia Eagles, who continue his scuffle on offense.
Speaker 1: They got a Vegas desert destroying hell area at the
Speaker 1: end of the game to make this thing look respectable.
Speaker 1: But Mark, this game was one sided. Seat will beat
Speaker 1: him on both sides of the ball. Yeah, I um,
Speaker 1: I don't often do this, but I spent the morning
Speaker 1: listening to uh ninety four w y P Whip in Philly, um,
Speaker 1: just to get a little taste of the of the
Speaker 1: aftermath and us too successful now, so you need to
Speaker 1: find another He's loving this, Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz downfall,
Speaker 1: remembered all those texts in when he thought the Browns
Speaker 1: blew it by not taking Wentz. He's loving this. It's
Speaker 1: just it's an unprecedented um slide. And I don't think
Speaker 1: it's all on Carson Wentz. I mean, he's it's he's
Speaker 1: the quarterback. He's going to get destroyed um, you know
Speaker 1: in this scenario on social media. But he has like
Speaker 1: a historical QB rating drop off this season from the
Speaker 1: combined seasons before. I mean, their offense to me looked
Speaker 1: lost um passing game wise against one of the worst
Speaker 1: past defenses in the league. And and I thought it
Speaker 1: was instructive, you know, Doug Peterson after the game. The
Speaker 1: one thing they were talking about on w I P
Speaker 1: over and over obviously was Jalen Hurts and the dynamic
Speaker 1: of the promises and Ian Rappaport's suggesting that we'd see
Speaker 1: more of Jalen Hurts. He played two snaps, he's played
Speaker 1: more in games in October, and they asked Doug Peterson
Speaker 1: after about it and he said, well, it's not about
Speaker 1: one guy, he said, we had breakdowns across the board
Speaker 1: and it doesn't really matter who's back there. And I
Speaker 1: just I question the flexible thinking or the creativity um
Speaker 1: of the Eagles and where they are because it just
Speaker 1: seems to me that the same questions are being asked
Speaker 1: by a very um I think agitated group of beat
Speaker 1: writers who are suffering through a rough campaign and a
Speaker 1: coach who suffering through a rough campaign, and a quarterback.
Speaker 1: And it's like enough with the Eagles being projected as
Speaker 1: you know, NFC title NFC East titleists, they've got a
Speaker 1: lot to figure out and massive looming questions heading into
Speaker 1: uh the offseason. Seattle did not look their best, but
Speaker 1: they snuck. They snuck a win out of here against
Speaker 1: a team in disarray. Yeah, they look fine. You know,
Speaker 1: their defense is getting a little better. Jamal Adams is
Speaker 1: doing his thing. Chris Carson makes a huge difference, but
Speaker 1: the most telling part of the broadcast to me was
Speaker 1: was some of the broad was some of the analysts
Speaker 1: from Greasy and Riddeck and it and it gets to
Speaker 1: what you were talking about with Wentz when they said
Speaker 1: late in the game that Peterson didn't necessarily want Hurts
Speaker 1: that ranks some that rang some bells because first of all,
Speaker 1: you can look at the loyalties there, Greasy sticking up
Speaker 1: for the quarterback. These guys are football guys. Lewis Riddeck
Speaker 1: used to work for Howie Roseman has disparaged him publicly, um,
Speaker 1: which I think it would have been better to disclose
Speaker 1: at some point while he was disparaging him last night too,
Speaker 1: because this this this goes back, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: years and years, because they were sort of on opposite
Speaker 1: sides of the uh of the organization years ago, and
Speaker 1: so that that really rings a bell. And then I
Speaker 1: think about Ian Rappaport's report about how Hurts is gonna
Speaker 1: play more. And I'm not trying to guess where these
Speaker 1: things are coming from, but when things like this happened,
Speaker 1: I think it's a schism, you know, I think it's
Speaker 1: maybe the front office and the coach not being on
Speaker 1: the same page. And when these things start coming out.
Speaker 1: It's almost like, and we've seen this in Philadelphia, by
Speaker 1: the way, before you start thinking, okay, this group, which
Speaker 1: has won a Super Bowl together is starting to come
Speaker 1: apart a little bit. And there's maybe the Peterson side
Speaker 1: and there's the front office, and you do wonder, Uh,
Speaker 1: is only one of those two sides gonna survive? Are
Speaker 1: either side gonna survive? We We really have no idea,
Speaker 1: but I think where we've hit that point of the scene.
Speaker 1: Laurie seemed annoyed looking at his face last night. Uh hey, typically,
Speaker 1: I mean he kind of I feel like owners always
Speaker 1: look like that in the box. And then we were
Speaker 1: chatting a lot. It's a lot of because he's just
Speaker 1: sitting there. Owners in general don't move around a lot.
Speaker 1: They just sit there and the and the money shine
Speaker 1: is all over them. But and the mask also, So
Speaker 1: I don't want to read so much as that, although
Speaker 1: they did by saying he didn't go to the Cleveland
Speaker 1: game the last week, which was read into, I guess
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia as a potential sign of his frustration with
Speaker 1: the team. Was the first game Lorie had missed since
Speaker 1: he um bought the team. But yes, Rittick is the
Speaker 1: former Eagles director of Pro Personnel. Um. There was the
Speaker 1: talk about Jalen Hurts getting snaps, and there was criticism
Speaker 1: in the broadcast if you're gonna put him in, put
Speaker 1: him in for a series, which there's logic to that,
Speaker 1: but also it could have just as easily been aroused
Speaker 1: by the Eagles to try to get Seattle to have
Speaker 1: the game plan for a second quarterback. Uh, that wouldn't
Speaker 1: surprise me evil either. And this kind of gets back
Speaker 1: to and Seahawks fans will get to your team as well.
Speaker 1: This to me gets back a little bit to a
Speaker 1: conversation we had last week. I think when the team
Speaker 1: struggles the way it has, the head coach certainly deserves blame. Um.
Speaker 1: But Carson Wentz missed so many throws yesterday. He missed
Speaker 1: not just throws, but reads and and Alshon Jeffery streaking
Speaker 1: down the sideline was one that comes to mind. But
Speaker 1: stuff in the seams and then the accuracy issues. At
Speaker 1: one point he threw low to one of his running
Speaker 1: backs and he visibly lifted his arms like bring the
Speaker 1: pass up, And that was a throw that he missed
Speaker 1: someone on the outside. Uh, it's so hard for me
Speaker 1: to kill the coaching staff the scheme um when the
Speaker 1: quarterback is so out of sync and obviously in a
Speaker 1: total funk mentally and physically. But which is why I
Speaker 1: think they in less hurts as a total disaster or Sudfeld,
Speaker 1: you know, as another guy has been on that roster
Speaker 1: for a while. I don't know. I think maybe I
Speaker 1: do think changing it up for a game is not
Speaker 1: you know, makes sense because you said it like you
Speaker 1: can make all the excuses and you know, Orlovsky, who
Speaker 1: has been a big when supporter, went through all the
Speaker 1: reasons why he thinks the offense is failing him. But
Speaker 1: I keep coming back to like the ball doesn't go
Speaker 1: or when's aims it. Know, I've always thought that was
Speaker 1: a problem with them, but now it's like they're they're
Speaker 1: also not using his athleticis and that's where you can
Speaker 1: get on the coaches maybe, but like it doesn't go
Speaker 1: where he wants it to go. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: how can you get past that. I went back and
Speaker 1: watched just a little bit of the member of this
Speaker 1: game in t seventeen. I believe we had Colleen on
Speaker 1: after it was a Monday night football game that we
Speaker 1: did what we're doing here. We unpacked the Eagles and
Speaker 1: it was Carson Wentz um frying Washington and he was,
Speaker 1: you know, they were six and one. After that game,
Speaker 1: he looked like an m v P. Everything that we're
Speaker 1: saying about him now we were not saying about him then.
Speaker 1: I mean, he he was. That's when I was texting
Speaker 1: you guys late at night, thinking like the Browns might
Speaker 1: have completely botched this because he looks like a hero
Speaker 1: in the making. And so I'm with you Dan that
Speaker 1: you can't just point to the coaching staff. You can't
Speaker 1: just point just to the quarterback. But the overall like
Speaker 1: soup is um distasteful right now, and so I don't
Speaker 1: I'm with Greg. I don't know who survives out of this.
Speaker 1: Carson wentz salary suggests that he survives. And if you
Speaker 1: play hurts and he brings a lot of energy and electricity,
Speaker 1: Let's say you play for a quarter, they go up
Speaker 1: fourteen nothing. You have opened up Pandora's box that goes
Speaker 1: deep into the off season. So I wonder if there's
Speaker 1: some hesitation to allow that to happen. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just hope Wentz is prepping as much as Mark is
Speaker 1: for these shows listening to w I P going back
Speaker 1: to someone is getting an m v P coin January.
Speaker 1: The Eagles are three seven and one now, so if
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson intends to somehow still win the NFC East,
Speaker 1: he's probably thinking long and hard now whether to give
Speaker 1: Hurts a shot. But again there's more to that too.
Speaker 1: How does Hurts look behind the scenes. The media hasn't
Speaker 1: had a good look at practices this year, all right
Speaker 1: on the Seattle side of things, UM, pretty much what
Speaker 1: you expected. A DK metcalf is at that level as
Speaker 1: a player ten for one seventy seven in this game
Speaker 1: where he is just such a headache and such a
Speaker 1: phenomenon really when it comes to being a playmaker. He's
Speaker 1: just at the top of the league right now. And
Speaker 1: just credit to UM the entire organization for scouting him
Speaker 1: the way they did. You remember during the combine when
Speaker 1: we had it on video when he took a shirt
Speaker 1: off to meet Pete Carroll in Indianapolis and Pete Kyle
Speaker 1: took his shirt off, and obviously, I thought to myself,
Speaker 1: it's that Connor or no, it's DK metcal exactly. His
Speaker 1: body is hot right now, and uh, they obviously scouted
Speaker 1: him right, went and got him, I believe, in the
Speaker 1: second round of that draft, and now look where he
Speaker 1: is and with Chris Carson and Carlos Hide, that's a
Speaker 1: nice combination. Um, the offense is fine. The defense obviously
Speaker 1: is the story now around them because it seems to
Speaker 1: be improving. Yeah, a lot of that I think is
Speaker 1: scheduled related, but that's how it how it goes. And
Speaker 1: they they've looked okay enough, I thought three of the
Speaker 1: last four weeks. Anyways, they just need to be average.
Speaker 1: To me, that's their recipe is being a Chiefs like
Speaker 1: team or a two thousand sixteen Patriots type of team
Speaker 1: where you have one of, if not the best offenses
Speaker 1: in the league at its best and and then okay
Speaker 1: defense and your boy at a him who you know,
Speaker 1: you you get on Clowney for instance, for um, you know,
Speaker 1: just getting pressures, not getting secks. For For all the
Speaker 1: some criticism the Seahawks have taken for the Adam Strange,
Speaker 1: he has eight sacks in seven games. He has twenty
Speaker 1: seven pressures. The next closest defensive backs twelve. So it
Speaker 1: reminds me of that Greg Williams comment. They're not gonna
Speaker 1: know how to use them. It's like they're they're using
Speaker 1: him just fine in this role. I know he's not
Speaker 1: like the best coverage guy or whatever, but he is productive, right.
Speaker 1: It's funny, and I agree with you. I thought the
Speaker 1: same thing because he's the rare guy on defense that
Speaker 1: you always know where he is because he's always around
Speaker 1: the ball. And I think the only way to try
Speaker 1: to negate him in the game plan is not be
Speaker 1: what the Eagles are, which is this kind of this
Speaker 1: formless offense that can't protect the quarterback Adam, that plays
Speaker 1: right into Adam's hands. You got to live near the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmag You've gotta get Adams out in coverage
Speaker 1: to try to expose where he's not so great. So
Speaker 1: when he is, I still, you know, two first round picks.
Speaker 1: Is still pretty steve for his safety, but he is
Speaker 1: given them obviously a big lift on defense. I never
Speaker 1: thought he was going to be a bust for them.
Speaker 1: Obviously I miss him, but he was also want to
Speaker 1: be honest, he's a bit of a pain in the
Speaker 1: so well, I think for the Jets. I think you
Speaker 1: have to say, you know, and I was critical of
Speaker 1: the move because of the like the overall cultural side
Speaker 1: of it. But they've they've gotten good value for a
Speaker 1: player that would have meant nothing to them this season,
Speaker 1: So that's fine. I loved that both our friend our
Speaker 1: friend bow Wolf called Metcalf a unicorn because that's what
Speaker 1: he is. I was like, what is this guy remind
Speaker 1: me of? When I'm watching them play. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like when families used to get together, um and do
Speaker 1: things outside in America, like on Thanksgiving for instance, and
Speaker 1: you'd have like the family football game and they'll be
Speaker 1: like the one kid who's like suddenly like a gigantic
Speaker 1: nineteen year old trying to get tackled by like nine
Speaker 1: year old girls. Like uh, I mean, you know, I
Speaker 1: will give Darius Slay credit for like what he said
Speaker 1: after the game. He was a total menshi about it.
Speaker 1: He he took total accountability. I think part of this
Speaker 1: idea of like trying to put whether it's a shutdown
Speaker 1: corner or not, one human being on DK Metcalf or
Speaker 1: one human being on Tyreek Hill on Sunday, Like, let's
Speaker 1: stop doing this. There's gotta be a better way to
Speaker 1: go about this. I mean, they went they were very physical, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean to the point where like they were penalized
Speaker 1: for how much they were roughing him up. And that
Speaker 1: was the first quarter of that game was a street fight.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a bad job by Jim Schwartz telling
Speaker 1: him he's not Megatron yet before the game. Guess is true. Um,
Speaker 1: but that's the right. I mean, he wasn't try but
Speaker 1: you're you know, the players are gonna take any motivation
Speaker 1: that they can. It's probably true, but he's getting there.
Speaker 1: You know. The two closest comparisons, I would say are
Speaker 1: David Boston and Megatron. And I think the difference between
Speaker 1: those two is you can tell with Metcalf he's already
Speaker 1: put in the work, his his route, running in the
Speaker 1: smoothness with which he gets in and out of his brake,
Speaker 1: stuff like that is already seems way better than it
Speaker 1: was as a rookie when Pete Carroll called him the Mandalorian,
Speaker 1: which is a reference completely lost to the two of you.
Speaker 1: But um, it made sense to me. Nothing. Nothing doesn't
Speaker 1: ring a bell at all. I mean, it's nice. It's
Speaker 1: nice to see Star Wars after a string of cash making.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you know, misfires creatively, I mean
Speaker 1: they're printing money, but that they've made something that people
Speaker 1: actually like. So that's nice. That's a good, good reaction.
Speaker 1: All right, joining us now, wake off, Caral follow I'm
Speaker 1: texting joining us now. That's what they do. That's what
Speaker 1: the insiders do. Even when they're on camera. They're allowed
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Speaker 1: cousin of Jimmy Garoppolo. Maybe I must say, um, my
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Speaker 1: and my header is me and Carson loves So I guess,
Speaker 1: I guess you don't want to show up anywhere on
Speaker 1: my Twitter profile Where Sam Donald in this profile? Mike,
Speaker 1: you are obviously plugged in on all this stuff like
Speaker 1: crazy and this the Steelers Raven situation. Now we're getting
Speaker 1: the game on Wednesday, and uh and is this? I mean,
Speaker 1: is this a game definitely gonna happen. Let's start there,
Speaker 1: I believe, so I can't leave it on the table
Speaker 1: that shakes the camera Um, yeah, I believe so. Um
Speaker 1: And there's a look and and the Titans situation was
Speaker 1: a bit of a fiasco at times, but the NFL
Speaker 1: was pretty good about spotting, hey, when we're gonna come
Speaker 1: out of this five day incubation period. Incubation is the
Speaker 1: word that I keep forgetting on there that I want
Speaker 1: to access, and I just got it there. So I'm
Speaker 1: really happy about that. Um. The biggest platforms, so the
Speaker 1: five ish uh day incubation period, and they were pretty
Speaker 1: good about, all right, we're out of it. We might
Speaker 1: have a couple of stragglers, but we're working our way
Speaker 1: out of it. And uh So that's where they feel
Speaker 1: they are with this raven situation, and that's why the
Speaker 1: game uh is going to be played or scheduled to
Speaker 1: be played and and should be played. Um. So, look,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different things that come into this,
Speaker 1: with what's happening in Denver and what happened with San
Speaker 1: Francisco a couple of weeks ago. But I would say
Speaker 1: that the NFL from a medical standpoint, was pretty good
Speaker 1: about how they handled the Titan situation and also this
Speaker 1: raven situation, or so at least it seems right now, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't understand why Denver especially is like, well, how
Speaker 1: come you delay in this games? Or even you know
Speaker 1: Steelers fans are up, so how come you're delay in
Speaker 1: this game? John Harbuck, He's putting the game off, and
Speaker 1: it's like, it seems pretty clear to me what what
Speaker 1: the difference is. Believe me, the NFL is not trying
Speaker 1: to lose money. They are trying to get this uh
Speaker 1: thing in as as much as possible. They have. They
Speaker 1: have forced these games. They are only doing it when
Speaker 1: it's like absolutely irresponsible to be playing the games. And
Speaker 1: people can even argue about that. So like if the
Speaker 1: game's being delayed, believe me, they're trying not to have
Speaker 1: it be delayed. They did not want to cancel the
Speaker 1: primetime game on Thanksgiving, not in the plans. And by
Speaker 1: the way, the only good game that this Thursday Night's
Speaker 1: game too has gone too because of that. They knew
Speaker 1: that Dez Bryants revenge game against the Cowboys and they
Speaker 1: want to move that. No, they wanted right where it
Speaker 1: was supposed to be. Um so so, and I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, uh apologize for what's happening here,
Speaker 1: but you know that's one thing. The other thing that
Speaker 1: frustrates people, and I get it, is that the Ravens
Speaker 1: are kind of being rewarded because their situation was worse
Speaker 1: than the Broncos situation. I mean, that's what it comes
Speaker 1: down to. It's kind of goofy, but it's it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of how it goes. And listen, they're still gonna
Speaker 1: be shorthanded. They didn't have a normal practice week by
Speaker 1: any stretch, and they're gonna get hit by the league
Speaker 1: in some form or fashion. I'm sure. Um, so you
Speaker 1: know there are repercussions at least. What would it take, Mike,
Speaker 1: uh for us to end up with the six team
Speaker 1: game playoff schedule? Would it take a cancelation to cancelation?
Speaker 1: What is your vibe on that for this to actually
Speaker 1: shift into a different set up for the NFL schedule
Speaker 1: for I mean, if it's just theoretically, it's just one
Speaker 1: that matters, right, If there's one game that has a
Speaker 1: team finishing at nine and six while another team's at
Speaker 1: nine and seven, and you go hold on which one
Speaker 1: is supposed to get in because the other team didn't
Speaker 1: play the game? Um, then that's how they would iron
Speaker 1: that out and say okay, we'll just let the eighth
Speaker 1: team in, which, by the way, then you could have
Speaker 1: the ninth team saying, well, hey what about us? You know,
Speaker 1: And I was just there's no perfect plan, uh to
Speaker 1: to take care of that number one and number two.
Speaker 1: If it is just one game, they'll find a way
Speaker 1: to get it in, you would think. So it would
Speaker 1: take theoretically a couple of games that you're missing that
Speaker 1: have an impact on the standings. If the Jets game
Speaker 1: against the Patriots doesn't get played in the Patriots, you're
Speaker 1: out of it. That's not going to factor into Jets.
Speaker 1: We'll go in sixteen then either So that doesn't sound
Speaker 1: but they would make history and that I have a
Speaker 1: personal like this would affect all four of us personally.
Speaker 1: Do you think like the same way sort of post
Speaker 1: nine eleven they enacted a lot of rules that never
Speaker 1: really went away. Um that the NFL. The way that
Speaker 1: the media works right now where you know under Corona's
Speaker 1: you know rain where it's all zoom meetings, there's a
Speaker 1: lot less um you know, people inside the building, which
Speaker 1: I would imagine teams love journalists are far away no more.
Speaker 1: You know, when is the next time we're ever gonna
Speaker 1: be back in buildings or will they shut that down
Speaker 1: for good? Because I'm wondering if will will we ever
Speaker 1: be in these like thirty person sweaty journal scrums, um
Speaker 1: trying to interview a coach. I could see that just
Speaker 1: never happening, never again. Tell us about Opening Night. You
Speaker 1: guys are unbelievable because I always before I come on,
Speaker 1: think about something that I want to talk about, and
Speaker 1: this is something I've wanted to talk about for we
Speaker 1: Now you brought it up, and I'm glad you did,
Speaker 1: because I want to make this clear to anybody who's
Speaker 1: got any kind of influence over these things that's watching
Speaker 1: right now, and we know that there's a lot of them,
Speaker 1: because that's where influential, influential people come right here. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm listening. It's a podcast. Ultimately, I missed that. This
Speaker 1: for you, if you want that's fun. I miss access
Speaker 1: and I miss access on Sundays. And this is not
Speaker 1: some kind of first amendment. I demand my access to
Speaker 1: my UH kick returner and gunner. No, that's not what
Speaker 1: it's about. It's about on Monday's of normal game weeks.
Speaker 1: Think about how many stories come out of postgame locker rooms. Um,
Speaker 1: and how many storylines the next day that you're talking
Speaker 1: about a lot of times you didn't even know about.
Speaker 1: Just a good question is asked that a player reveals
Speaker 1: something and it comes out and you kind of dissect
Speaker 1: it all. And there's a dearth of that kind of
Speaker 1: stuff right now because there's no access on Sundays. So
Speaker 1: once it's safe again. If the NFL or teams think
Speaker 1: that limiting access, boy, this has been great. Oh how
Speaker 1: that that would be a disservice to fans too, players
Speaker 1: who deserve to have their stories told to organizations, to
Speaker 1: people in the media. And I just I miss it
Speaker 1: so much because so much comes out of Sunday locker
Speaker 1: rooms and we just don't have it right now, And
Speaker 1: and I really have a hole in my soul because
Speaker 1: of it. Okay, but do do you think the players
Speaker 1: actually miss it? Um? Not the majority of them, might say,
Speaker 1: but I think that there's a minority that understand. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean, think of it this way. I don't know
Speaker 1: that we've heard from Jalen Hurts since training camp. I
Speaker 1: thought about that last night. I mean, the the Eagles
Speaker 1: haven't made him available. I don't I could be wrong,
Speaker 1: Maybe he did one at some point I missed it.
Speaker 1: But what's going through that guy's head? Don't you want
Speaker 1: to know? I mean, we we keep asking once about
Speaker 1: it and Doug Peterson all the other guys. I'd love
Speaker 1: to you know, he deserves to have his say on
Speaker 1: the matter and listen that he could easily say to
Speaker 1: the I want to be available and I want to
Speaker 1: talk and whatnot. But and again maybe he has, but
Speaker 1: I just I haven't seen enough of it. I just
Speaker 1: there's there's um there are some guys who realize enough,
Speaker 1: guys who realize having access to the media and access
Speaker 1: to defense despite the fact that you have your own
Speaker 1: channels to speak, is a good thing. It'll be interesting,
Speaker 1: I UM realize some of these owners own Premier League
Speaker 1: teams and they've kind of gone to uh the no
Speaker 1: no locker room, very very little access policy and has
Speaker 1: has not hurt the bottom line. So when it wouldn't
Speaker 1: surprise me if they if they change some things. I
Speaker 1: am speaking of access. I want to ask about someone
Speaker 1: who I feel like has used his relationships, um, whether
Speaker 1: it's in the building or outside of the building, to
Speaker 1: find his way atop the Houston Texans Organization that's right,
Speaker 1: we're talking easter By again. I am just curious though,
Speaker 1: to talk since we have an insider on the show.
Speaker 1: Jack Easterby is basically there and the Texans swear he's
Speaker 1: not going to be the GM, but if he is
Speaker 1: running the coaching search with the owner Cal McNair, Um,
Speaker 1: I guess, how do you see that going? Is that
Speaker 1: going to be a problem for people who would maybe
Speaker 1: come into the organization, like let's say, an Eric b
Speaker 1: enemy or do you think they might just avoid doing
Speaker 1: the whole thing anyways and just stick with Romeo. I'm
Speaker 1: sort of getting convinced that they're just gonna try to
Speaker 1: do that. Um. I think that that's possible, and that's
Speaker 1: a fallback option for Houston right now. UM. And I
Speaker 1: don't want to speak for anybody in particular. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know you mentioned the enemy. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the enemy thinks about the Texans building, but I do
Speaker 1: know that there are GM candidates who are a little
Speaker 1: wary of what's happening down there. Um, And listen, part
Speaker 1: of that is because they look at it and go,
Speaker 1: where's my draft capital. O'Brien trained it all away, and
Speaker 1: I gotta come in and try to rebuild things, and
Speaker 1: I don't have those those picks to start with, Whereas
Speaker 1: if you walk into the Jaguars building, got yourself and
Speaker 1: starting point there with all the picks that Dave Caldwell
Speaker 1: has compiled for that team. UM, so I you know,
Speaker 1: in addition to the draft capital, they're worried about. Wait
Speaker 1: a second, is this is this the guy who UM
Speaker 1: overthrew the guy who overthrew the previous GM and how
Speaker 1: much power is he gonna have and what kind of
Speaker 1: setup is this going to be? And while he's not
Speaker 1: the GM, uh maybe um is he gonna have some
Speaker 1: influence over what happens here? So I know they're concerned.
Speaker 1: Uh in that regards at least some candidates UM and
Speaker 1: and coaches would have the same questions. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't want somebody looking over my shoulder when I'm trying
Speaker 1: to game planned during the week. Do you think, um, well,
Speaker 1: let's say Doug Moron, let's say most likely is not
Speaker 1: going to be a long term guy there beyond correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. You have the Texans obviously, the Lions,
Speaker 1: the Falcons, the Jets obviously is an obvious one. Which
Speaker 1: power rank though, what's like the best job out of
Speaker 1: all these, you think, and conversely, what's the worst? I
Speaker 1: assume you assume you're talking coaching, because you threw the
Speaker 1: Jets in there, right, we're talking just coaches, Yes, just coaches. Um,
Speaker 1: what were my options again? Alright? Jaguars, Texans, Lions, Falcons, Jets, Jets.
Speaker 1: M um oh coaching standpoint, I mean, I think you
Speaker 1: gotta go Falcons right from a coaching standpoint, because I
Speaker 1: think you can walk in and you can be successful
Speaker 1: with that team. And maybe you don't walk in, maybe
Speaker 1: you just stay because maybe your name is Raheem Morris
Speaker 1: and you can show Arthur Blank and everybody else in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: including Rich McKay, that you got a good thing going
Speaker 1: and why not give me a chance to do this
Speaker 1: for the long the long haul? Um? So you know,
Speaker 1: and and I would say this, uh weeks ago, I
Speaker 1: did ask prospective GMS. I said, if you go into
Speaker 1: Atlanta right now when when Thomas to Mitchell was fired,
Speaker 1: if you go into Atlanta, what are you doing with
Speaker 1: the quarterback? And they said, it depends do I have
Speaker 1: a top three pick or do I not have a
Speaker 1: top three pick? And right now they're playing themselves out
Speaker 1: of a top pick um, so that could lead the
Speaker 1: Matt in staying I I still think he's got good
Speaker 1: football left. Now you're you're going in there and you're
Speaker 1: having him as you're starting quarterback for the next couple
Speaker 1: of years. Maybe, but you're also hatching a long term
Speaker 1: plan as well. But I still like the fact that
Speaker 1: I've got Matt Ryan and Julio Jones, uh and some
Speaker 1: other key pieces at least there that you can work with.
Speaker 1: I'd ask you to know about another veteran quarterback, Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford in Detroit. You know, there were whispers in a
Speaker 1: couple of past off seasons with the last regime that
Speaker 1: maybe they would go a cold quarterback in the draft.
Speaker 1: Maybe Matthew Stafford could be moved on some level. Is
Speaker 1: there a window or a scenario or feeling inside the
Speaker 1: organization that Stafford could be could be on the way
Speaker 1: out and that I look at a team like Ron
Speaker 1: Rivera who seems unwilling to want to work with a
Speaker 1: young quarterback but would love a veteran and you can't
Speaker 1: just sell Alex smith on on us for another season.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a nice story. But year two,
Speaker 1: some of that drips away. I mean, could Stafford wind
Speaker 1: up somewhere else, um, and all in the in the
Speaker 1: midst in the mix of all these rookies being drafted
Speaker 1: and then some veterans moving, Yeah, I think he could.
Speaker 1: And listen, the bloom is off some of these quarterbacks
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. I'll throw Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: in there, even though I don't believe that you kind
Speaker 1: of quit on him at this point. And I you know,
Speaker 1: at some point he may need a reset, whatever that means,
Speaker 1: new coaching staff or a new new location. UM. But
Speaker 1: you know, it's easy to sit there one two years
Speaker 1: ago and say, boy, there really aren't that many openings.
Speaker 1: Look at how many quarterbacks are in uh place that
Speaker 1: are playing well and and and Sam Donald was in there,
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield although he's played better now of late um
Speaker 1: and guys that we thought, oh boy, they're gonna be
Speaker 1: there for twenty years. You know, some guys get off
Speaker 1: the fast starts and then all of a sudden, whether
Speaker 1: it's more tape or what happens around them, uh, start
Speaker 1: to tell off a little bit. So yeah, I do
Speaker 1: think that there's an option out there at some point
Speaker 1: for Matthew Stafford. Now the other question is, and I
Speaker 1: know if inject him with some truth thereum, I think
Speaker 1: he will tell you that he feels like it might
Speaker 1: be time to move on. But but who's coming in
Speaker 1: as GM and who's coming in as a coach? Because
Speaker 1: that could change a lot for you when all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you got a different feel about the organization
Speaker 1: because of who is actually the coach. So um, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's one that I'm kind of keeping tabs on. But
Speaker 1: to tell you right now if he's moving on, I
Speaker 1: got to see into the future to know what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen to really make a call on that one. You're
Speaker 1: staying a little like combo vaccine truth theorem. Just throw
Speaker 1: the truth serum, just mix it up into the vaccine,
Speaker 1: so you just just one needle. Why. I know that
Speaker 1: family is very upset. You know they're gonna be first
Speaker 1: in line to get that vaccine. They want to get
Speaker 1: out there. And yeah, um, so the the COVID vaccine
Speaker 1: is going to need a booster. Would the truth serum
Speaker 1: also need a booster? I would just roll with the
Speaker 1: truth serum. You just put it right into the bloodstream
Speaker 1: and see what comes out of the mouth Stafford to
Speaker 1: just ruined all the good will he's built up and
Speaker 1: just be like, are you kidding me? I've been on
Speaker 1: Alliance for a decade plus and I've stayed quiet. Get
Speaker 1: me out of here, um before a lot of folks
Speaker 1: would argue with him before we go, Mike, Yes, we're
Speaker 1: talking vaccines. This is um and it's taught us that
Speaker 1: you never know when you um gonna have enough opportunity
Speaker 1: to do something. So I wanted to ask you a
Speaker 1: question I've always wanted to ask you. So here we go, Mike,
Speaker 1: how much does it bother you that more people mistakenly
Speaker 1: refer to you as Mike Garofolo than Janine is identified
Speaker 1: as Janine Garafolo. Be honest. To be honest, I feel
Speaker 1: like there's gonna be a tipping point right because which
Speaker 1: I don't I hate to I hate to speak negatively
Speaker 1: about the family. But what I mean, has she done
Speaker 1: a lot lately? Is she still out there? I mean
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I'm stacking wins here, right,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm stacking You're active, I'm mixing some losses
Speaker 1: in there. We gotta take some els, as they like
Speaker 1: to tell you on Twitter, Um, but I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm I feel like I'm stacking enough that there should
Speaker 1: be a tipping point. Um. You know, hasn't it saying
Speaker 1: you're saying that more people are watching NFL network, um
Speaker 1: than reality bites on Netflix. I'm not sure if that's
Speaker 1: true right now. Even Well, we're gonna have to check
Speaker 1: with Netflix because I'm gonna need to see views or
Speaker 1: streams or whatever they call them, because I think I
Speaker 1: might challenge you on that one. I might throw the
Speaker 1: red flag on that one. Wow, that's an optimistic. Look.
Speaker 1: I'm glad I got that question out, Mike. That was
Speaker 1: a trenching question by our international audience is like, who
Speaker 1: is Janine Garofolo the Larry Sanders Show on a huge
Speaker 1: overseas Yeah, that's true, Mike. You've you've come and you've
Speaker 1: said it all. We just got we got smarter and
Speaker 1: we needed that and that's what you do when you
Speaker 1: come on the show. And again, check out Mike. He's
Speaker 1: on NFL Network all the time and also on Good
Speaker 1: Morning Football on the weekend with the Great Connie Fox. Uh.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Mr g thank you guys for having me,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, leave all your bed. Carmen my plan.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would normally say see you at the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, but happening, I haven't booked my ticket yet.
Speaker 1: Know what's happening to that? All Right? There he goes
Speaker 1: the Mike, the Great Mike Garifolo, checking in, what do
Speaker 1: we learned there? You know, I wanted, Uh, I went
Speaker 1: down a different wormhole, but I wanted to ask him
Speaker 1: about Will Fuller, who. Of course, that news came out
Speaker 1: um on Monday that Fuller, the Texans wide receivers enjoyed
Speaker 1: a big breakout season and also cornerback Bradley Roby have
Speaker 1: been suspended six games for violating the NFL's policy on
Speaker 1: performance and enhancing substances. That's unbelievable. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: what a bad year for the Texans all around, and
Speaker 1: terrible for for Fuller, who, you know, we always knew
Speaker 1: we had talent. We we talked about it on the
Speaker 1: show all the time. And the fact that he had
Speaker 1: realized that as a number one wide receiver this year
Speaker 1: year and now he gets suspended. I wonder what kind
Speaker 1: of market he has now. Um, we'll we'll find out,
Speaker 1: of course, but that was just based on precedent. I
Speaker 1: just feel like NFL teams do not discount much for
Speaker 1: p E d s. They're just like, don't do it again.
Speaker 1: You know, if you're good, he really he has a
Speaker 1: free agent. If it's a player who never could stay
Speaker 1: healthy then finally stays healthy for three months and then
Speaker 1: gets revealed to be on p E d S, I
Speaker 1: wonder if that's something that is a huge red flag.
Speaker 1: I would he's a guy I would absolutely take a
Speaker 1: chance on because I think he's really and we saw
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving when he went off, Uh, he's he's a
Speaker 1: real player. But that was, um, you know, a tough situation.
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is such a great, great quarterback. But now
Speaker 1: you take DeAndre Hopkins out of the mix, Will Fuller,
Speaker 1: it makes you feel like it's in doubted. They just
Speaker 1: cut Kenny Stills, Randall Cobb is hurt for a while,
Speaker 1: and bat Bradley Roby, by the ways, their number one
Speaker 1: corner by far. I would say that's two of their
Speaker 1: top six players that you know. It's kind of like,
Speaker 1: for instance, they're playing the Colts this week, like that
Speaker 1: looked like a dangerous game for the Colts. It's looking
Speaker 1: a little less. Yes, what more good news for the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins though, who have the first round pick of
Speaker 1: Houston Texans next spring. Alright, anything else we want to
Speaker 1: hit on today's show, A little bit of a quicker
Speaker 1: show we have just by way of schedule because everything's funky.
Speaker 1: We'll have a mini pod tomorrow Wednesday recapping Steelers Ravens
Speaker 1: if it does indeed happen it happened, uh, And then
Speaker 1: on Friday, our Thursday regular Thursday preview show pushed to Friday,
Speaker 1: so we'll have that show out to you Friday, um
Speaker 1: afternoon here uh in California, So follow all that, Mark,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do if indeed, here in California
Speaker 1: the game has played at twelve forty Uh? Steelers Ravens.
Speaker 1: What is it? Mark Sessler, Wednesday lunchtime football set up?
Speaker 1: Look like I kind of love stuff like this, and
Speaker 1: I don't love why it's happening, But um, it is
Speaker 1: uh an impossibility to watch it in my house with
Speaker 1: the current vibe and activity. So I'll go into the garage.
Speaker 1: I got a television in there, sit in the easy
Speaker 1: chair and just you know, watch a little Steelers Ravens.
Speaker 1: I don't see what. It seems like a wonderful activity
Speaker 1: for the afternoon on a Wednesday. It's very unusual and
Speaker 1: uh kind of feels baseball like almost, So I'm ready
Speaker 1: to experience it with a positive mindset for once. And
Speaker 1: because of that, we also are getting another Tuesday game
Speaker 1: the next week. Well, here's what I don't need. The
Speaker 1: like the triple header on Monday night where two games
Speaker 1: are happening at the same time. That's a bit rich.
Speaker 1: Well they're not doing it now, They're pushing I don't
Speaker 1: need Tuesday so that the Steelers and the Washington football
Speaker 1: team gets their own Tuesday. So, I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: wild world the forty Niners today, you know, godspeed to
Speaker 1: the them. Hopefully they pack too well. They are embarking
Speaker 1: on a three work week minimum sojourn to Arizona, where
Speaker 1: they have decamped for December because they're gonna play in
Speaker 1: Glendale place, um with double the amount of coronavirus cases
Speaker 1: as Santa Clara. And and to be clear, I am
Speaker 1: not criticizing Santa Clara for actually I can. I'm not
Speaker 1: let the pro football teams play their games in the end.
Speaker 1: The season can be com down with the preciousness like this.
Speaker 1: It's not so much precious but it's just like, this
Speaker 1: is what happens when entire country has absolutely no organization
Speaker 1: that the one place, one of the only places in
Speaker 1: the country that takes it seriously and does a good
Speaker 1: job and is trying to actually prevent you know, more
Speaker 1: people from dying. Um ends up just like yeah, setting
Speaker 1: this team to somewhere where it's actually like there's more cases.
Speaker 1: I thought it was notable that coming out of the
Speaker 1: win over the Rams College Shanahan went on a series
Speaker 1: of wild rants about this scenario and you know, basically
Speaker 1: had to tell his players you will not be spending
Speaker 1: Christmas with your families this year. I mean, so you know,
Speaker 1: there's a life side to this, and we just look
Speaker 1: at the teams. I'm kind of with Dan, like with
Speaker 1: the the NFL or the one group of people, even
Speaker 1: though they're being affected where they put a pretty good
Speaker 1: clamp on this to some degree, Like why are we
Speaker 1: shipping all of them to Arizona? I just let them
Speaker 1: play in California. But that's a that's not the people
Speaker 1: that you're out. These are people that that live and
Speaker 1: work in your region, and like you're saying, right, you're
Speaker 1: sending them to a place that's more dangerous too, I
Speaker 1: guess take them. I think conversation it gets to a
Speaker 1: larger conversation that we don't need to have in this
Speaker 1: and it's basically just how much how much is like
Speaker 1: an organization like the NFL need to feel responsible for
Speaker 1: the community at large? Now, does you know when our politicians,
Speaker 1: you know, when the laws don't really care too much
Speaker 1: about community spread? There's an argument like why should uh,
Speaker 1: why should like a corporation care But ultimately, like we're
Speaker 1: kind of making the trade off that we're trading a
Speaker 1: lot of people getting COVID by having you know, football games,
Speaker 1: especially fans in football games, you know, and like we're
Speaker 1: kind of accepting that, and one one county in the
Speaker 1: country is saying, now, we're not going to accept that.
Speaker 1: So speaking of COVID nineteen and um, obviously a global
Speaker 1: pandemic is a pretty good excuse if you want to
Speaker 1: call that. Mark. But you know, you've moved into your
Speaker 1: new home. You have this fancy garage setup that you
Speaker 1: mentioned here and there not even a whiff of an
Speaker 1: invite since in the months since you've you've moved in,
Speaker 1: So I just I'll send you a photo of it.
Speaker 1: It's not. You have the fancy garage. I mean I
Speaker 1: have one seat in there for one person. So, um,
Speaker 1: I would be happy to have you and a private text.
Speaker 1: Say Mark, if you wanna, like I put down carpet
Speaker 1: in my garage. If you want any help, I'd be
Speaker 1: happy to come over, you know, make a day of it.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe maybe it's time to open up Mark
Speaker 1: a little bit and get out of this. You know what.
Speaker 1: I think that like like some other people that I um,
Speaker 1: I've become a little too comfortable with seeing nobody and
Speaker 1: the idea of inviting people over and doing things I
Speaker 1: just assumed not on the table. Um. But we had
Speaker 1: a wonderful time socially distanced, you and I and handsome
Speaker 1: Hank covering Seahawks Cardinals, and I should take a cube
Speaker 1: from that that I think we can. I don't want
Speaker 1: to pressure you. You know. I also had a Corona scare,
Speaker 1: if you recall it, took a test there at one point,
Speaker 1: so I you know, I didn't want to That would
Speaker 1: have not have been a high time to invite the
Speaker 1: gang over. Hey, I might have Corona come on over.
Speaker 1: Let's have cupcakes and Corona cupcakes. Yeah, you see what
Speaker 1: happens to everyone roll the dice um. All right, well,
Speaker 1: let me know. Maybe it's when we get the two shots.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's when it happens. But we're we're all waiting, Erica.
Speaker 1: You would like to see Mark's new house, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're all waiting, Like you said, extreme enthusiasm. I would
Speaker 1: see the vand cave. You have a new garage. You
Speaker 1: have your new little shed out back that we all
Speaker 1: want to see. I don't have there's no there's no
Speaker 1: backdoor shed this time. No, you've inspired me. I will
Speaker 1: think of I will think of a way to get
Speaker 1: this stune in the near future. All right, but safety
Speaker 1: first always, you know we care about that. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: way to press your mark. We're during the pandemic. Then
Speaker 1: shut up, shut up not doing that. We're being safe.
Speaker 1: You don't see us missing shows because we have the coronavirus,
Speaker 1: because we're doing a good job. No, we're doing the
Speaker 1: right things. We're making the right decisions, right Greig, we are,
Speaker 1: I mean we're no, we're no dead ver Broncos you know. Sorry,
Speaker 1: they were the first one that came up. I mean,
Speaker 1: getting coronavirus is kind of a stamp of that you've
Speaker 1: been through this NFL season unfortunately incredible actually playing incredible
Speaker 1: mask mask discipline as they call it in the meeting rooms.
Speaker 1: All right here they on the end of our podcast,
Speaker 1: we'll be back like we said, mini mini pod personnel
Speaker 1: to be decided tomorrow Raven Steelers, uh, Corona willing. And
Speaker 1: then we'll be back again on Friday with a full
Speaker 1: preview of week thirteen. We get into the teens. How
Speaker 1: about that? Mark, I can't wait? All right, this is
Speaker 1: thank you to Mike care. Follow this Dan handsOn signing
Speaker 1: off for FIDE Storm the old boss Ricky Hollywood. It's
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