1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Be around the NFL podcast guarantees. Chipper Chammer, Welcome to 2 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: the Big Tech Podcast, your home from microchips, modems and 3 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: other big tech stuff. My name is Dan ANSAs, coming 4 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: to you from a virtual room, virtual big Tech follow 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: the dots of heroes, great roads with all Mark CEO. 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: What's up, boys, Well, I'm glad you've revealed some of 7 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: the findings from our latest board meeting. We do believe 8 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: the future of big tech is in modems. Modems are 9 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: hot right now. Just that's that's it. It's all about 10 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: the motive. Well, the secret is, it's the next wave 11 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: of motive. Everyone you know right now fifty six K 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: is hot. But what happens when you get up to 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: you know K. That's where we're going. Well, that's why 14 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: we're cutting edge. And I do find it an interesting 15 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: life scenario in the future if the NFL were to 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: melt down into I really the three of us or 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: four of us or five of us would join some 18 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: random corporation in like Central Iowa and just immediately start 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: a podcast talking about modems and screws and dashboards. Well, listen, 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: I've I've done my research. Um as an enterprising middle 21 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: aged businessman, here, and I just realized might have made 22 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: a huge mistake because the NFL owns the around the 23 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: NFL podcast name by uttering it on this show? Is 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: that also the property of three forty five Park Avenue 25 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: and Roger Goodell? Did we just line the pockets again 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: of Big Corp? They own everything? So yes, you know emphatically, yes, 27 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: I need Yeah, they own if if we have another child, 28 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: they own that. Um, they own whoever we're gonna hire 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: to help us, because you know, we've got we're like 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: I DMN very creative and everything. When I when I 31 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: think of the four of us with with West too, 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: and I'll throw Ricky, you know, throw Ricky in there. 33 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: I don't think like tech savvys, like the number one 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: first thing that comes to my mind. Well, that's why 35 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: we launched Big Tech, because the most important thing to 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: success is just a hunger to learn and get better. 37 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: So that's our company is just starts here and then 38 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: it just goes like that. Right. We see it through 39 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: the eyes of the of the everyman, you know, not 40 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: the nerd. So I'm with you and Greg. That was 41 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of creeping pessimism in Big Tech. We 42 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: won't have that it's this is like Silicon Valley. There's 43 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: a lot of optimism. There's big, cushy offices, windows everywhere, 44 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: open space. Yeah, so just we've got to have that 45 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: right attitude. There's just like bitcoins falling from the ceiling. 46 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: You're missing one key ingredient and it's white and it's 47 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: sugary and it comes in big bags. Yes, many sugar cookies. 48 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: I just like I kind of take a little bit 49 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: of offense to that when you're like tech savvy doesn't 50 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: really come. I guess I was thinking more in this pandemic, 51 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: like I got Good Morning Football online, I got two 52 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: online the network, like right, I was thinking more like 53 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: the back end like programming and stuff was more. But 54 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: you have to understand like that, whenever Greg sets up 55 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: anything like that, you know he's about to insult somebody. Uh, 56 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: it was your turn there, and you just have sometimes 57 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: you just gotta wear it. But good for you for 58 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: coming back at him on it. Thanks. I mean, we're 59 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: just colleagues, not friends, so I don't really take it personally. 60 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: You'll probably one thing I have learned is people think 61 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: take things more personally, and I've tried to learn that 62 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: in my forty years that not everyone. Um, you know 63 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: it's sometimes just for the sake of a joke. You 64 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: can't take it personally. And he is improving on the 65 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: empathy scale. All right, here we go, let's get into 66 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: it big show today. We have a guest Mike Gara, Folo. 67 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: We love that guy's is plugged in as it gets. 68 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: One of the top insiders not just in our company 69 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: but the whole industry. And he's good dude, and he's 70 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: from Hoboken, So what else do you need. He's gonna 71 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: join us on the show a little bit later. Um, 72 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: I think we'll preview Steelers Ravens for the trifecta here, 73 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: Why not again the last two shows? Why not do 74 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: it a third time? Why not? Mark? Yes, I I 75 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: I mean, look at I think we're getting We're rounding 76 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: into form with each of these previews, and our pinpoint 77 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: precision will be felt by the listener this third time. 78 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: I think it would be fun the preview Ravens Steelers 79 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: every show for the rest of the season, Like, even 80 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: if the game does happen, just just just preview. I 81 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: like the idea that we previewed so many times that 82 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: we reach a higher plane of intelligence and we just 83 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: know everything that happened before the game is played. We're 84 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: one preview away from that, so we can't stop now. 85 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: But before any of that, we do have to get 86 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: to the penultimate game on the week twelve schedule. It 87 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: went down in Philly Seahawks Eagles. Let's check it out 88 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: and here comes a three man rushing a handoff and 89 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: it girls rocked. The cardsman got a rock at the 90 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 1: ten runes on the numbers, the five breaks to tackle, 91 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: cartender taking turning, driving touchdown. Wow, water On, he's a bulldozer, 92 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: He's a beast. Big time run Carson with a sixteen 93 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: yard sledgehammer touchdown. Run the best, Kevin Harlan, Kevin Hall, Harland, 94 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: Kevin Mother, Coline Westwood one. Chris Carson made it count 95 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: his long run of the game, sixteen yards and he 96 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: found the end zone, adding a little balance to the 97 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: Seahawks offense and it paid off a twenty seventeen win 98 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: over the Philadelphia Eagles, who continue his scuffle on offense. 99 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: They got a Vegas desert destroying hell area at the 100 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: end of the game to make this thing look respectable. 101 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: But Mark, this game was one sided. Seat will beat 102 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: him on both sides of the ball. Yeah, I um, 103 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: I don't often do this, but I spent the morning 104 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: listening to uh ninety four w y P Whip in Philly, um, 105 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: just to get a little taste of the of the 106 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: aftermath and us too successful now, so you need to 107 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: find another He's loving this, Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz downfall, 108 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: remembered all those texts in when he thought the Browns 109 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: blew it by not taking Wentz. He's loving this. It's 110 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: just it's an unprecedented um slide. And I don't think 111 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: it's all on Carson Wentz. I mean, he's it's he's 112 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: the quarterback. He's going to get destroyed um, you know 113 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: in this scenario on social media. But he has like 114 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: a historical QB rating drop off this season from the 115 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: combined seasons before. I mean, their offense to me looked 116 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: lost um passing game wise against one of the worst 117 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: past defenses in the league. And and I thought it 118 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: was instructive, you know, Doug Peterson after the game. The 119 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: one thing they were talking about on w I P 120 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: over and over obviously was Jalen Hurts and the dynamic 121 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: of the promises and Ian Rappaport's suggesting that we'd see 122 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: more of Jalen Hurts. He played two snaps, he's played 123 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: more in games in October, and they asked Doug Peterson 124 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: after about it and he said, well, it's not about 125 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: one guy, he said, we had breakdowns across the board 126 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: and it doesn't really matter who's back there. And I 127 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: just I question the flexible thinking or the creativity um 128 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: of the Eagles and where they are because it just 129 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,559 Speaker 1: seems to me that the same questions are being asked 130 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: by a very um I think agitated group of beat 131 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: writers who are suffering through a rough campaign and a 132 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: coach who suffering through a rough campaign, and a quarterback. 133 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: And it's like enough with the Eagles being projected as 134 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, NFC title NFC East titleists, they've got a 135 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: lot to figure out and massive looming questions heading into 136 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: uh the offseason. Seattle did not look their best, but 137 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: they snuck. They snuck a win out of here against 138 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: a team in disarray. Yeah, they look fine. You know, 139 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: their defense is getting a little better. Jamal Adams is 140 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: doing his thing. Chris Carson makes a huge difference, but 141 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: the most telling part of the broadcast to me was 142 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: was some of the broad was some of the analysts 143 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: from Greasy and Riddeck and it and it gets to 144 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 1: what you were talking about with Wentz when they said 145 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: late in the game that Peterson didn't necessarily want Hurts 146 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: that ranks some that rang some bells because first of all, 147 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: you can look at the loyalties there, Greasy sticking up 148 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: for the quarterback. These guys are football guys. Lewis Riddeck 149 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: used to work for Howie Roseman has disparaged him publicly, um, 150 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: which I think it would have been better to disclose 151 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: at some point while he was disparaging him last night too, 152 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: because this this this goes back, you know, you know, 153 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: years and years, because they were sort of on opposite 154 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: sides of the uh of the organization years ago, and 155 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: so that that really rings a bell. And then I 156 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: think about Ian Rappaport's report about how Hurts is gonna 157 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: play more. And I'm not trying to guess where these 158 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: things are coming from, but when things like this happened, 159 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: I think it's a schism, you know, I think it's 160 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: maybe the front office and the coach not being on 161 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: the same page. And when these things start coming out. 162 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: It's almost like, and we've seen this in Philadelphia, by 163 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: the way, before you start thinking, okay, this group, which 164 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: has won a Super Bowl together is starting to come 165 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: apart a little bit. And there's maybe the Peterson side 166 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: and there's the front office, and you do wonder, Uh, 167 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: is only one of those two sides gonna survive? Are 168 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: either side gonna survive? We We really have no idea, 169 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: but I think where we've hit that point of the scene. 170 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: Laurie seemed annoyed looking at his face last night. Uh hey, typically, 171 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean he kind of I feel like owners always 172 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: look like that in the box. And then we were 173 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: chatting a lot. It's a lot of because he's just 174 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: sitting there. Owners in general don't move around a lot. 175 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: They just sit there and the and the money shine 176 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: is all over them. But and the mask also, So 177 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to read so much as that, although 178 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: they did by saying he didn't go to the Cleveland 179 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: game the last week, which was read into, I guess 180 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia as a potential sign of his frustration with 181 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: the team. Was the first game Lorie had missed since 182 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: he um bought the team. But yes, Rittick is the 183 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: former Eagles director of Pro Personnel. Um. There was the 184 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: talk about Jalen Hurts getting snaps, and there was criticism 185 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: in the broadcast if you're gonna put him in, put 186 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: him in for a series, which there's logic to that, 187 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: but also it could have just as easily been aroused 188 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: by the Eagles to try to get Seattle to have 189 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: the game plan for a second quarterback. Uh, that wouldn't 190 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: surprise me evil either. And this kind of gets back 191 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: to and Seahawks fans will get to your team as well. 192 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: This to me gets back a little bit to a 193 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: conversation we had last week. I think when the team 194 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: struggles the way it has, the head coach certainly deserves blame. Um. 195 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: But Carson Wentz missed so many throws yesterday. He missed 196 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: not just throws, but reads and and Alshon Jeffery streaking 197 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: down the sideline was one that comes to mind. But 198 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: stuff in the seams and then the accuracy issues. At 199 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: one point he threw low to one of his running 200 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: backs and he visibly lifted his arms like bring the 201 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: pass up, And that was a throw that he missed 202 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: someone on the outside. Uh, it's so hard for me 203 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: to kill the coaching staff the scheme um when the 204 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: quarterback is so out of sync and obviously in a 205 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: total funk mentally and physically. But which is why I 206 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: think they in less hurts as a total disaster or Sudfeld, 207 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: you know, as another guy has been on that roster 208 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: for a while. I don't know. I think maybe I 209 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: do think changing it up for a game is not 210 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, makes sense because you said it like you 211 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: can make all the excuses and you know, Orlovsky, who 212 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: has been a big when supporter, went through all the 213 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: reasons why he thinks the offense is failing him. But 214 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: I keep coming back to like the ball doesn't go 215 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: or when's aims it. Know, I've always thought that was 216 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: a problem with them, but now it's like they're they're 217 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: also not using his athleticis and that's where you can 218 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: get on the coaches maybe, but like it doesn't go 219 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: where he wants it to go. So I don't know, 220 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: how can you get past that. I went back and 221 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: watched just a little bit of the member of this 222 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: game in t seventeen. I believe we had Colleen on 223 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: after it was a Monday night football game that we 224 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: did what we're doing here. We unpacked the Eagles and 225 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: it was Carson Wentz um frying Washington and he was, 226 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, they were six and one. After that game, 227 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: he looked like an m v P. Everything that we're 228 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: saying about him now we were not saying about him then. 229 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he he was. That's when I was texting 230 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: you guys late at night, thinking like the Browns might 231 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: have completely botched this because he looks like a hero 232 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: in the making. And so I'm with you Dan that 233 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: you can't just point to the coaching staff. You can't 234 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: just point just to the quarterback. But the overall like 235 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: soup is um distasteful right now, and so I don't 236 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: I'm with Greg. I don't know who survives out of this. 237 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: Carson wentz salary suggests that he survives. And if you 238 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: play hurts and he brings a lot of energy and electricity, 239 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: Let's say you play for a quarter, they go up 240 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: fourteen nothing. You have opened up Pandora's box that goes 241 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: deep into the off season. So I wonder if there's 242 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: some hesitation to allow that to happen. I mean, I 243 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: just hope Wentz is prepping as much as Mark is 244 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: for these shows listening to w I P going back 245 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: to someone is getting an m v P coin January. 246 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: The Eagles are three seven and one now, so if 247 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson intends to somehow still win the NFC East, 248 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: he's probably thinking long and hard now whether to give 249 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: Hurts a shot. But again there's more to that too. 250 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: How does Hurts look behind the scenes. The media hasn't 251 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: had a good look at practices this year, all right 252 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: on the Seattle side of things, UM, pretty much what 253 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: you expected. A DK metcalf is at that level as 254 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: a player ten for one seventy seven in this game 255 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: where he is just such a headache and such a 256 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: phenomenon really when it comes to being a playmaker. He's 257 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: just at the top of the league right now. And 258 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: just credit to UM the entire organization for scouting him 259 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: the way they did. You remember during the combine when 260 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: we had it on video when he took a shirt 261 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: off to meet Pete Carroll in Indianapolis and Pete Kyle 262 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: took his shirt off, and obviously, I thought to myself, 263 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,599 Speaker 1: it's that Connor or no, it's DK metcal exactly. His 264 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: body is hot right now, and uh, they obviously scouted 265 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: him right, went and got him, I believe, in the 266 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: second round of that draft, and now look where he 267 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: is and with Chris Carson and Carlos Hide, that's a 268 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: nice combination. Um, the offense is fine. The defense obviously 269 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: is the story now around them because it seems to 270 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: be improving. Yeah, a lot of that I think is 271 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: scheduled related, but that's how it how it goes. And 272 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: they they've looked okay enough, I thought three of the 273 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: last four weeks. Anyways, they just need to be average. 274 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: To me, that's their recipe is being a Chiefs like 275 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: team or a two thousand sixteen Patriots type of team 276 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: where you have one of, if not the best offenses 277 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: in the league at its best and and then okay 278 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: defense and your boy at a him who you know, 279 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: you you get on Clowney for instance, for um, you know, 280 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: just getting pressures, not getting secks. For For all the 281 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: some criticism the Seahawks have taken for the Adam Strange, 282 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: he has eight sacks in seven games. He has twenty 283 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: seven pressures. The next closest defensive backs twelve. So it 284 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: reminds me of that Greg Williams comment. They're not gonna 285 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: know how to use them. It's like they're they're using 286 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: him just fine in this role. I know he's not 287 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: like the best coverage guy or whatever, but he is productive, right. 288 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: It's funny, and I agree with you. I thought the 289 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: same thing because he's the rare guy on defense that 290 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: you always know where he is because he's always around 291 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: the ball. And I think the only way to try 292 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: to negate him in the game plan is not be 293 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: what the Eagles are, which is this kind of this 294 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: formless offense that can't protect the quarterback Adam, that plays 295 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: right into Adam's hands. You got to live near the 296 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: line of scrimmag You've gotta get Adams out in coverage 297 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: to try to expose where he's not so great. So 298 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: when he is, I still, you know, two first round picks. 299 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: Is still pretty steve for his safety, but he is 300 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: given them obviously a big lift on defense. I never 301 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: thought he was going to be a bust for them. 302 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: Obviously I miss him, but he was also want to 303 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: be honest, he's a bit of a pain in the 304 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: so well, I think for the Jets. I think you 305 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: have to say, you know, and I was critical of 306 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: the move because of the like the overall cultural side 307 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: of it. But they've they've gotten good value for a 308 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: player that would have meant nothing to them this season, 309 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: So that's fine. I loved that both our friend our 310 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: friend bow Wolf called Metcalf a unicorn because that's what 311 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: he is. I was like, what is this guy remind 312 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: me of? When I'm watching them play. It's kind of 313 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: like when families used to get together, um and do 314 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: things outside in America, like on Thanksgiving for instance, and 315 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: you'd have like the family football game and they'll be 316 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: like the one kid who's like suddenly like a gigantic 317 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: nineteen year old trying to get tackled by like nine 318 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: year old girls. Like uh, I mean, you know, I 319 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: will give Darius Slay credit for like what he said 320 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: after the game. He was a total menshi about it. 321 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: He he took total accountability. I think part of this 322 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: idea of like trying to put whether it's a shutdown 323 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: corner or not, one human being on DK Metcalf or 324 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: one human being on Tyreek Hill on Sunday, Like, let's 325 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: stop doing this. There's gotta be a better way to 326 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: go about this. I mean, they went they were very physical, Yeah, 327 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean to the point where like they were penalized 328 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: for how much they were roughing him up. And that 329 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: was the first quarter of that game was a street fight. 330 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a bad job by Jim Schwartz telling 331 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: him he's not Megatron yet before the game. Guess is true. Um, 332 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: but that's the right. I mean, he wasn't try but 333 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: you're you know, the players are gonna take any motivation 334 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: that they can. It's probably true, but he's getting there. 335 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: You know. The two closest comparisons, I would say are 336 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: David Boston and Megatron. And I think the difference between 337 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 1: those two is you can tell with Metcalf he's already 338 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: put in the work, his his route, running in the 339 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: smoothness with which he gets in and out of his brake, 340 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: stuff like that is already seems way better than it 341 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,719 Speaker 1: was as a rookie when Pete Carroll called him the Mandalorian, 342 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: which is a reference completely lost to the two of you. 343 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: But um, it made sense to me. Nothing. Nothing doesn't 344 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: ring a bell at all. I mean, it's nice. It's 345 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: nice to see Star Wars after a string of cash making. 346 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you know, misfires creatively, I mean 347 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: they're printing money, but that they've made something that people 348 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: actually like. So that's nice. That's a good, good reaction. 349 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: All right, joining us now, wake off, Caral follow I'm 350 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: texting joining us now. That's what they do. That's what 351 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: the insiders do. Even when they're on camera. They're allowed 352 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: to look at their phone and do phone things. It's 353 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: written in our contract. He is, of course a reporter 354 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: for NFL Network. He is Ricky. He's Ricky. I'm Ricky, 355 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: reporter for NFL Network, co host g MFB Weekend, distant 356 00:18:55,520 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: cousin of Jimmy Garoppolo. Maybe I must say, um, my 357 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 1: Twitter profile picture is a picture of me and Jimmy Garoppolo, 358 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: and my header is me and Carson loves So I guess, 359 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: I guess you don't want to show up anywhere on 360 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: my Twitter profile Where Sam Donald in this profile? Mike, 361 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: you are obviously plugged in on all this stuff like 362 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: crazy and this the Steelers Raven situation. Now we're getting 363 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: the game on Wednesday, and uh and is this? I mean, 364 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: is this a game definitely gonna happen. Let's start there, 365 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: I believe, so I can't leave it on the table 366 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: that shakes the camera Um, yeah, I believe so. Um 367 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: And there's a look and and the Titans situation was 368 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: a bit of a fiasco at times, but the NFL 369 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 1: was pretty good about spotting, hey, when we're gonna come 370 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: out of this five day incubation period. Incubation is the 371 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: word that I keep forgetting on there that I want 372 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: to access, and I just got it there. So I'm 373 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: really happy about that. Um. The biggest platforms, so the 374 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: five ish uh day incubation period, and they were pretty 375 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: good about, all right, we're out of it. We might 376 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: have a couple of stragglers, but we're working our way 377 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: out of it. And uh So that's where they feel 378 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: they are with this raven situation, and that's why the 379 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: game uh is going to be played or scheduled to 380 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: be played and and should be played. Um. So, look, 381 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: there's a lot of different things that come into this, 382 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: with what's happening in Denver and what happened with San 383 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: Francisco a couple of weeks ago. But I would say 384 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: that the NFL from a medical standpoint, was pretty good 385 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: about how they handled the Titan situation and also this 386 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: raven situation, or so at least it seems right now, yeah, 387 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: I don't understand why Denver especially is like, well, how 388 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: come you delay in this games? Or even you know 389 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: Steelers fans are up, so how come you're delay in 390 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: this game? John Harbuck, He's putting the game off, and 391 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: it's like, it seems pretty clear to me what what 392 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: the difference is. Believe me, the NFL is not trying 393 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: to lose money. They are trying to get this uh 394 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: thing in as as much as possible. They have. They 395 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: have forced these games. They are only doing it when 396 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: it's like absolutely irresponsible to be playing the games. And 397 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: people can even argue about that. So like if the 398 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: game's being delayed, believe me, they're trying not to have 399 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: it be delayed. They did not want to cancel the 400 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: primetime game on Thanksgiving, not in the plans. And by 401 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: the way, the only good game that this Thursday Night's 402 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: game too has gone too because of that. They knew 403 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: that Dez Bryants revenge game against the Cowboys and they 404 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: want to move that. No, they wanted right where it 405 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: was supposed to be. Um so so, and I'm not 406 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: trying to, you know, uh apologize for what's happening here, 407 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: but you know that's one thing. The other thing that 408 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: frustrates people, and I get it, is that the Ravens 409 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: are kind of being rewarded because their situation was worse 410 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: than the Broncos situation. I mean, that's what it comes 411 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: down to. It's kind of goofy, but it's it's it's 412 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: kind of how it goes. And listen, they're still gonna 413 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: be shorthanded. They didn't have a normal practice week by 414 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: any stretch, and they're gonna get hit by the league 415 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: in some form or fashion. I'm sure. Um, so you 416 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: know there are repercussions at least. What would it take, Mike, 417 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: uh for us to end up with the six team 418 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: game playoff schedule? Would it take a cancelation to cancelation? 419 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: What is your vibe on that for this to actually 420 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: shift into a different set up for the NFL schedule 421 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: for I mean, if it's just theoretically, it's just one 422 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: that matters, right, If there's one game that has a 423 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: team finishing at nine and six while another team's at 424 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: nine and seven, and you go hold on which one 425 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: is supposed to get in because the other team didn't 426 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: play the game? Um, then that's how they would iron 427 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: that out and say okay, we'll just let the eighth 428 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: team in, which, by the way, then you could have 429 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: the ninth team saying, well, hey what about us? You know, 430 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: And I was just there's no perfect plan, uh to 431 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: to take care of that number one and number two. 432 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: If it is just one game, they'll find a way 433 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: to get it in, you would think. So it would 434 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: take theoretically a couple of games that you're missing that 435 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: have an impact on the standings. If the Jets game 436 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: against the Patriots doesn't get played in the Patriots, you're 437 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: out of it. That's not going to factor into Jets. 438 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: We'll go in sixteen then either So that doesn't sound 439 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: but they would make history and that I have a 440 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: personal like this would affect all four of us personally. 441 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: Do you think like the same way sort of post 442 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: nine eleven they enacted a lot of rules that never 443 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: really went away. Um that the NFL. The way that 444 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: the media works right now where you know under Corona's 445 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: you know rain where it's all zoom meetings, there's a 446 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: lot less um you know, people inside the building, which 447 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: I would imagine teams love journalists are far away no more. 448 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: You know, when is the next time we're ever gonna 449 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: be back in buildings or will they shut that down 450 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: for good? Because I'm wondering if will will we ever 451 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: be in these like thirty person sweaty journal scrums, um 452 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: trying to interview a coach. I could see that just 453 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 1: never happening, never again. Tell us about Opening Night. You 454 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: guys are unbelievable because I always before I come on, 455 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: think about something that I want to talk about, and 456 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: this is something I've wanted to talk about for we 457 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: Now you brought it up, and I'm glad you did, 458 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: because I want to make this clear to anybody who's 459 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: got any kind of influence over these things that's watching 460 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: right now, and we know that there's a lot of them, 461 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: because that's where influential, influential people come right here. Um, 462 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm listening. It's a podcast. Ultimately, I missed that. This 463 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: for you, if you want that's fun. I miss access 464 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: and I miss access on Sundays. And this is not 465 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: some kind of first amendment. I demand my access to 466 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: my UH kick returner and gunner. No, that's not what 467 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: it's about. It's about on Monday's of normal game weeks. 468 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: Think about how many stories come out of postgame locker rooms. Um, 469 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: and how many storylines the next day that you're talking 470 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: about a lot of times you didn't even know about. 471 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: Just a good question is asked that a player reveals 472 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: something and it comes out and you kind of dissect 473 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: it all. And there's a dearth of that kind of 474 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: stuff right now because there's no access on Sundays. So 475 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: once it's safe again. If the NFL or teams think 476 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: that limiting access, boy, this has been great. Oh how 477 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: that that would be a disservice to fans too, players 478 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: who deserve to have their stories told to organizations, to 479 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: people in the media. And I just I miss it 480 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: so much because so much comes out of Sunday locker 481 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: rooms and we just don't have it right now, And 482 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: and I really have a hole in my soul because 483 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: of it. Okay, but do do you think the players 484 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: actually miss it? Um? Not the majority of them, might say, 485 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: but I think that there's a minority that understand. Um. 486 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean, think of it this way. I don't know 487 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: that we've heard from Jalen Hurts since training camp. I 488 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: thought about that last night. I mean, the the Eagles 489 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: haven't made him available. I don't I could be wrong, 490 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: Maybe he did one at some point I missed it. 491 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: But what's going through that guy's head? Don't you want 492 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: to know? I mean, we we keep asking once about 493 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: it and Doug Peterson all the other guys. I'd love 494 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: to you know, he deserves to have his say on 495 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: the matter and listen that he could easily say to 496 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: the I want to be available and I want to 497 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: talk and whatnot. But and again maybe he has, but 498 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: I just I haven't seen enough of it. I just 499 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: there's there's um there are some guys who realize enough, 500 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: guys who realize having access to the media and access 501 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: to defense despite the fact that you have your own 502 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: channels to speak, is a good thing. It'll be interesting, 503 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: I UM realize some of these owners own Premier League 504 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: teams and they've kind of gone to uh the no 505 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 1: no locker room, very very little access policy and has 506 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: has not hurt the bottom line. So when it wouldn't 507 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: surprise me if they if they change some things. I 508 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: am speaking of access. I want to ask about someone 509 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: who I feel like has used his relationships, um, whether 510 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: it's in the building or outside of the building, to 511 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: find his way atop the Houston Texans Organization that's right, 512 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: we're talking easter By again. I am just curious though, 513 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: to talk since we have an insider on the show. 514 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: Jack Easterby is basically there and the Texans swear he's 515 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: not going to be the GM, but if he is 516 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: running the coaching search with the owner Cal McNair, Um, 517 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: I guess, how do you see that going? Is that 518 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: going to be a problem for people who would maybe 519 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: come into the organization, like let's say, an Eric b 520 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: enemy or do you think they might just avoid doing 521 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: the whole thing anyways and just stick with Romeo. I'm 522 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: sort of getting convinced that they're just gonna try to 523 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: do that. Um. I think that that's possible, and that's 524 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: a fallback option for Houston right now. UM. And I 525 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: don't want to speak for anybody in particular. I mean, 526 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 1: I know you mentioned the enemy. I don't know what 527 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 1: the enemy thinks about the Texans building, but I do 528 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: know that there are GM candidates who are a little 529 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: wary of what's happening down there. Um, And listen, part 530 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: of that is because they look at it and go, 531 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: where's my draft capital. O'Brien trained it all away, and 532 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: I gotta come in and try to rebuild things, and 533 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: I don't have those those picks to start with, Whereas 534 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: if you walk into the Jaguars building, got yourself and 535 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: starting point there with all the picks that Dave Caldwell 536 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: has compiled for that team. UM, so I you know, 537 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: in addition to the draft capital, they're worried about. Wait 538 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: a second, is this is this the guy who UM 539 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 1: overthrew the guy who overthrew the previous GM and how 540 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: much power is he gonna have and what kind of 541 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 1: setup is this going to be? And while he's not 542 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: the GM, uh maybe um is he gonna have some 543 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: influence over what happens here? So I know they're concerned. 544 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: Uh in that regards at least some candidates UM and 545 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: and coaches would have the same questions. You know, I 546 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: don't want somebody looking over my shoulder when I'm trying 547 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: to game planned during the week. Do you think, um, well, 548 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: let's say Doug Moron, let's say most likely is not 549 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: going to be a long term guy there beyond correct 550 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. You have the Texans obviously, the Lions, 551 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: the Falcons, the Jets obviously is an obvious one. Which 552 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: power rank though, what's like the best job out of 553 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: all these, you think, and conversely, what's the worst? I 554 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: assume you assume you're talking coaching, because you threw the 555 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: Jets in there, right, we're talking just coaches, Yes, just coaches. Um, 556 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: what were my options again? Alright? Jaguars, Texans, Lions, Falcons, Jets, Jets. 557 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: M um oh coaching standpoint, I mean, I think you 558 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,719 Speaker 1: gotta go Falcons right from a coaching standpoint, because I 559 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: think you can walk in and you can be successful 560 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: with that team. And maybe you don't walk in, maybe 561 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: you just stay because maybe your name is Raheem Morris 562 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: and you can show Arthur Blank and everybody else in Atlanta, 563 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: including Rich McKay, that you got a good thing going 564 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: and why not give me a chance to do this 565 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: for the long the long haul? Um? So you know, 566 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: and and I would say this, uh weeks ago, I 567 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: did ask prospective GMS. I said, if you go into 568 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: Atlanta right now when when Thomas to Mitchell was fired, 569 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: if you go into Atlanta, what are you doing with 570 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback? And they said, it depends do I have 571 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: a top three pick or do I not have a 572 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: top three pick? And right now they're playing themselves out 573 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: of a top pick um, so that could lead the 574 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: Matt in staying I I still think he's got good 575 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: football left. Now you're you're going in there and you're 576 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: having him as you're starting quarterback for the next couple 577 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: of years. Maybe, but you're also hatching a long term 578 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: plan as well. But I still like the fact that 579 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: I've got Matt Ryan and Julio Jones, uh and some 580 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: other key pieces at least there that you can work with. 581 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: I'd ask you to know about another veteran quarterback, Matthew 582 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: Stafford in Detroit. You know, there were whispers in a 583 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: couple of past off seasons with the last regime that 584 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: maybe they would go a cold quarterback in the draft. 585 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: Maybe Matthew Stafford could be moved on some level. Is 586 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: there a window or a scenario or feeling inside the 587 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: organization that Stafford could be could be on the way 588 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: out and that I look at a team like Ron 589 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: Rivera who seems unwilling to want to work with a 590 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: young quarterback but would love a veteran and you can't 591 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: just sell Alex smith on on us for another season. 592 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a nice story. But year two, 593 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: some of that drips away. I mean, could Stafford wind 594 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: up somewhere else, um, and all in the in the 595 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: midst in the mix of all these rookies being drafted 596 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: and then some veterans moving, Yeah, I think he could. 597 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: And listen, the bloom is off some of these quarterbacks 598 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. I'll throw Carson Wentz 599 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: in there, even though I don't believe that you kind 600 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: of quit on him at this point. And I you know, 601 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: at some point he may need a reset, whatever that means, 602 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: new coaching staff or a new new location. UM. But 603 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's easy to sit there one two years 604 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: ago and say, boy, there really aren't that many openings. 605 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: Look at how many quarterbacks are in uh place that 606 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: are playing well and and and Sam Donald was in there, 607 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield although he's played better now of late um 608 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: and guys that we thought, oh boy, they're gonna be 609 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: there for twenty years. You know, some guys get off 610 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: the fast starts and then all of a sudden, whether 611 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: it's more tape or what happens around them, uh, start 612 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: to tell off a little bit. So yeah, I do 613 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: think that there's an option out there at some point 614 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: for Matthew Stafford. Now the other question is, and I 615 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: know if inject him with some truth thereum, I think 616 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: he will tell you that he feels like it might 617 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: be time to move on. But but who's coming in 618 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: as GM and who's coming in as a coach? Because 619 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: that could change a lot for you when all of 620 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: a sudden you got a different feel about the organization 621 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: because of who is actually the coach. So um, yeah, 622 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: it's one that I'm kind of keeping tabs on. But 623 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: to tell you right now if he's moving on, I 624 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: got to see into the future to know what's gonna 625 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: happen to really make a call on that one. You're 626 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: staying a little like combo vaccine truth theorem. Just throw 627 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: the truth serum, just mix it up into the vaccine, 628 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: so you just just one needle. Why. I know that 629 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: family is very upset. You know they're gonna be first 630 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: in line to get that vaccine. They want to get 631 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: out there. And yeah, um, so the the COVID vaccine 632 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: is going to need a booster. Would the truth serum 633 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: also need a booster? I would just roll with the 634 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: truth serum. You just put it right into the bloodstream 635 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: and see what comes out of the mouth Stafford to 636 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: just ruined all the good will he's built up and 637 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: just be like, are you kidding me? I've been on 638 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: Alliance for a decade plus and I've stayed quiet. Get 639 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: me out of here, um before a lot of folks 640 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: would argue with him before we go, Mike, Yes, we're 641 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: talking vaccines. This is um and it's taught us that 642 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: you never know when you um gonna have enough opportunity 643 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: to do something. So I wanted to ask you a 644 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: question I've always wanted to ask you. So here we go, Mike, 645 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: how much does it bother you that more people mistakenly 646 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: refer to you as Mike Garofolo than Janine is identified 647 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: as Janine Garafolo. Be honest. To be honest, I feel 648 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: like there's gonna be a tipping point right because which 649 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: I don't I hate to I hate to speak negatively 650 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: about the family. But what I mean, has she done 651 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: a lot lately? Is she still out there? I mean 652 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I'm stacking wins here, right, 653 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean I'm stacking You're active, I'm mixing some losses 654 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: in there. We gotta take some els, as they like 655 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: to tell you on Twitter, Um, but I feel like 656 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm I feel like I'm stacking enough that there should 657 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: be a tipping point. Um. You know, hasn't it saying 658 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: you're saying that more people are watching NFL network, um 659 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: than reality bites on Netflix. I'm not sure if that's 660 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 1: true right now. Even Well, we're gonna have to check 661 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: with Netflix because I'm gonna need to see views or 662 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: streams or whatever they call them, because I think I 663 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: might challenge you on that one. I might throw the 664 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: red flag on that one. Wow, that's an optimistic. Look. 665 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: I'm glad I got that question out, Mike. That was 666 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: a trenching question by our international audience is like, who 667 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: is Janine Garofolo the Larry Sanders Show on a huge 668 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: overseas Yeah, that's true, Mike. You've you've come and you've 669 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: said it all. We just got we got smarter and 670 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: we needed that and that's what you do when you 671 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: come on the show. And again, check out Mike. He's 672 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: on NFL Network all the time and also on Good 673 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: Morning Football on the weekend with the Great Connie Fox. Uh. 674 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: Thank you, Mr g thank you guys for having me, 675 00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, leave all your bed. Carmen my plan. 676 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would normally say see you at the 677 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: super Bowl, but happening, I haven't booked my ticket yet. 678 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: Know what's happening to that? All Right? There he goes 679 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: the Mike, the Great Mike Garifolo, checking in, what do 680 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: we learned there? You know, I wanted, Uh, I went 681 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: down a different wormhole, but I wanted to ask him 682 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: about Will Fuller, who. Of course, that news came out 683 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 1: um on Monday that Fuller, the Texans wide receivers enjoyed 684 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: a big breakout season and also cornerback Bradley Roby have 685 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: been suspended six games for violating the NFL's policy on 686 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: performance and enhancing substances. That's unbelievable. I mean, this is 687 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: what a bad year for the Texans all around, and 688 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: terrible for for Fuller, who, you know, we always knew 689 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: we had talent. We we talked about it on the 690 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 1: show all the time. And the fact that he had 691 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: realized that as a number one wide receiver this year 692 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: year and now he gets suspended. I wonder what kind 693 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: of market he has now. Um, we'll we'll find out, 694 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: of course, but that was just based on precedent. I 695 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: just feel like NFL teams do not discount much for 696 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: p E d s. They're just like, don't do it again. 697 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: You know, if you're good, he really he has a 698 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 1: free agent. If it's a player who never could stay 699 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: healthy then finally stays healthy for three months and then 700 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: gets revealed to be on p E d S, I 701 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: wonder if that's something that is a huge red flag. 702 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: I would he's a guy I would absolutely take a 703 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: chance on because I think he's really and we saw 704 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving when he went off, Uh, he's he's a 705 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: real player. But that was, um, you know, a tough situation. 706 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is such a great, great quarterback. But now 707 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: you take DeAndre Hopkins out of the mix, Will Fuller, 708 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: it makes you feel like it's in doubted. They just 709 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: cut Kenny Stills, Randall Cobb is hurt for a while, 710 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: and bat Bradley Roby, by the ways, their number one 711 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: corner by far. I would say that's two of their 712 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: top six players that you know. It's kind of like, 713 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: for instance, they're playing the Colts this week, like that 714 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: looked like a dangerous game for the Colts. It's looking 715 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: a little less. Yes, what more good news for the 716 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins though, who have the first round pick of 717 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: Houston Texans next spring. Alright, anything else we want to 718 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 1: hit on today's show, A little bit of a quicker 719 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: show we have just by way of schedule because everything's funky. 720 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: We'll have a mini pod tomorrow Wednesday recapping Steelers Ravens 721 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 1: if it does indeed happen it happened, uh, And then 722 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: on Friday, our Thursday regular Thursday preview show pushed to Friday, 723 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: so we'll have that show out to you Friday, um 724 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:50,439 Speaker 1: afternoon here uh in California, So follow all that, Mark, 725 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do if indeed, here in California 726 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: the game has played at twelve forty Uh? Steelers Ravens. 727 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: What is it? Mark Sessler, Wednesday lunchtime football set up? 728 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: Look like I kind of love stuff like this, and 729 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: I don't love why it's happening, But um, it is 730 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: uh an impossibility to watch it in my house with 731 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: the current vibe and activity. So I'll go into the garage. 732 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: I got a television in there, sit in the easy 733 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: chair and just you know, watch a little Steelers Ravens. 734 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: I don't see what. It seems like a wonderful activity 735 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: for the afternoon on a Wednesday. It's very unusual and 736 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: uh kind of feels baseball like almost, So I'm ready 737 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: to experience it with a positive mindset for once. And 738 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: because of that, we also are getting another Tuesday game 739 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: the next week. Well, here's what I don't need. The 740 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: like the triple header on Monday night where two games 741 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: are happening at the same time. That's a bit rich. 742 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 1: Well they're not doing it now, They're pushing I don't 743 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: need Tuesday so that the Steelers and the Washington football 744 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: team gets their own Tuesday. So, I mean, it's a 745 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: wild world the forty Niners today, you know, godspeed to 746 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: the them. Hopefully they pack too well. They are embarking 747 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: on a three work week minimum sojourn to Arizona, where 748 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: they have decamped for December because they're gonna play in 749 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 1: Glendale place, um with double the amount of coronavirus cases 750 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: as Santa Clara. And and to be clear, I am 751 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: not criticizing Santa Clara for actually I can. I'm not 752 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 1: let the pro football teams play their games in the end. 753 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: The season can be com down with the preciousness like this. 754 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: It's not so much precious but it's just like, this 755 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: is what happens when entire country has absolutely no organization 756 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: that the one place, one of the only places in 757 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: the country that takes it seriously and does a good 758 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: job and is trying to actually prevent you know, more 759 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: people from dying. Um ends up just like yeah, setting 760 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,760 Speaker 1: this team to somewhere where it's actually like there's more cases. 761 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: I thought it was notable that coming out of the 762 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: win over the Rams College Shanahan went on a series 763 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: of wild rants about this scenario and you know, basically 764 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: had to tell his players you will not be spending 765 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: Christmas with your families this year. I mean, so you know, 766 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: there's a life side to this, and we just look 767 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: at the teams. I'm kind of with Dan, like with 768 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: the the NFL or the one group of people, even 769 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: though they're being affected where they put a pretty good 770 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: clamp on this to some degree, Like why are we 771 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: shipping all of them to Arizona? I just let them 772 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: play in California. But that's a that's not the people 773 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: that you're out. These are people that that live and 774 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: work in your region, and like you're saying, right, you're 775 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: sending them to a place that's more dangerous too, I 776 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 1: guess take them. I think conversation it gets to a 777 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: larger conversation that we don't need to have in this 778 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: and it's basically just how much how much is like 779 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: an organization like the NFL need to feel responsible for 780 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: the community at large? Now, does you know when our politicians, 781 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 1: you know, when the laws don't really care too much 782 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 1: about community spread? There's an argument like why should uh, 783 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: why should like a corporation care But ultimately, like we're 784 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: kind of making the trade off that we're trading a 785 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,439 Speaker 1: lot of people getting COVID by having you know, football games, 786 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: especially fans in football games, you know, and like we're 787 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: kind of accepting that, and one one county in the 788 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: country is saying, now, we're not going to accept that. 789 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: So speaking of COVID nineteen and um, obviously a global 790 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: pandemic is a pretty good excuse if you want to 791 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 1: call that. Mark. But you know, you've moved into your 792 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: new home. You have this fancy garage setup that you 793 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: mentioned here and there not even a whiff of an 794 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 1: invite since in the months since you've you've moved in, 795 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 1: So I just I'll send you a photo of it. 796 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: It's not. You have the fancy garage. I mean I 797 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 1: have one seat in there for one person. So, um, 798 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 1: I would be happy to have you and a private text. 799 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: Say Mark, if you wanna, like I put down carpet 800 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: in my garage. If you want any help, I'd be 801 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: happy to come over, you know, make a day of it. 802 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: You know, maybe maybe it's time to open up Mark 803 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: a little bit and get out of this. You know what. 804 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: I think that like like some other people that I um, 805 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: I've become a little too comfortable with seeing nobody and 806 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: the idea of inviting people over and doing things I 807 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: just assumed not on the table. Um. But we had 808 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: a wonderful time socially distanced, you and I and handsome 809 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,479 Speaker 1: Hank covering Seahawks Cardinals, and I should take a cube 810 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: from that that I think we can. I don't want 811 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: to pressure you. You know. I also had a Corona scare, 812 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: if you recall it, took a test there at one point, 813 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: so I you know, I didn't want to That would 814 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: have not have been a high time to invite the 815 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 1: gang over. Hey, I might have Corona come on over. 816 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: Let's have cupcakes and Corona cupcakes. Yeah, you see what 817 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: happens to everyone roll the dice um. All right, well, 818 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: let me know. Maybe it's when we get the two shots. 819 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,439 Speaker 1: Maybe that's when it happens. But we're we're all waiting, Erica. 820 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: You would like to see Mark's new house, right, yeah, 821 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 1: we're all waiting, Like you said, extreme enthusiasm. I would 822 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: see the vand cave. You have a new garage. You 823 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: have your new little shed out back that we all 824 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 1: want to see. I don't have there's no there's no 825 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 1: backdoor shed this time. No, you've inspired me. I will 826 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: think of I will think of a way to get 827 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,280 Speaker 1: this stune in the near future. All right, but safety 828 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: first always, you know we care about that. It's like, oh, 829 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 1: way to press your mark. We're during the pandemic. Then 830 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: shut up, shut up not doing that. We're being safe. 831 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: You don't see us missing shows because we have the coronavirus, 832 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: because we're doing a good job. No, we're doing the 833 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: right things. We're making the right decisions, right Greig, we are, 834 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: I mean we're no, we're no dead ver Broncos you know. Sorry, 835 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 1: they were the first one that came up. I mean, 836 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 1: getting coronavirus is kind of a stamp of that you've 837 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: been through this NFL season unfortunately incredible actually playing incredible 838 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: mask mask discipline as they call it in the meeting rooms. 839 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,800 Speaker 1: All right here they on the end of our podcast, 840 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: we'll be back like we said, mini mini pod personnel 841 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 1: to be decided tomorrow Raven Steelers, uh, Corona willing. And 842 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 1: then we'll be back again on Friday with a full 843 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: preview of week thirteen. We get into the teens. How 844 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: about that? Mark, I can't wait? All right, this is 845 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: thank you to Mike care. Follow this Dan handsOn signing 846 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: off for FIDE Storm the old boss Ricky Hollywood. It's 847 00:44:26,080 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: behind the birketal glass until what say se