WEBVTT - Are We Truly Happy? 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:06.120 What's up in sauce on the side, And I am 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:10.080 here with Diamond, who's not feeling something that one of 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:13.720 our guests did in the past. So I'm super stoked 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:17.920 because literally earlier this week, the news came out that Colossal, 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:20.560 the company Colossal and our dude Ben Lamb from one. 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:23.120 Of our really early episodes, What are you looking at? 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:25.960 Elvis has on a suit or like a blazer. 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:28.880 I swear to god, he just walked. 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:31.160 By his back. 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:33.519 Oh man, we're screwed. 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:34.560 We have an event today. 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:36.720 No, I'm just gonna let this keep going. 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:40.720 Where are you going? He's going to this event that 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:42.840 we're all going to? But I was told you didn't 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:43.480 need a suit. 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:47.479 Make it seem like you're underdressed. 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:50.800 I mean, I am what he's wearing sweary. She told 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:53.600 me she was wearing like a jacket and jeans and sneakers. 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:55.680 You're such a. 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:58.000 Dick now, because that is giving. I'm going to a 0:00:58.040 --> 0:00:59.400 wedding or funeral, That's what. 0:00:59.360 --> 0:00:59.840 It looks like. 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:01.160 He's going to bust in here to and be like, 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.400 oh need got very watch he did almost did. 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.520 Yeah, But I love Dacy. 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:11.000 So one we're recording early and two what were we talking. 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:14.200 Oh yeah, Ben Lamb from Colossal. They just brought back 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.160 the dire wolves, which is super cool, and everyone's saying 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:20.600 why dire wolves were real? They were from Game of 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:25.039 Thrones and also just history. But there's reasoning why they're 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:26.800 doing some of the things that they're doing, and apparently 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:28.840 bringing back these dire wolves will help to protect the 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:32.640 red wolf population and diversify their DNA so that they 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:33.559 continue to thrive. 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:34.520 So that could be cool. 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:36.000 It's not cool. 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:39.319 You're not feeling anyone know, because this opens the door to. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:41.200 Things that I don't want to see. Number One, I 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:42.959 don't want to see a dire wolf. I didn't want 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:46.480 to see a wooly mouse either. I already am terrified 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.080 of rodents. Why would I want to see a new species. 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.920 You don't think they're a cute species? No, wow, No, 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.440 because they creep me out. The next thing, you know, 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:59.240 we're going to bring back cavemen and dinosaurs. 0:01:58.680 --> 0:01:59.840 Or so they don't even happen. 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:01.760 I don't know if you've seen what's happening in the world, 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:02.400 but they're back. 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:05.360 But we're gonna bring back dinosaurs. We don't even know 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.640 what they really looked like. So we're just gonna manipulate 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.160 and play with DNA. I don't know about that. 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:12.959 I don't think they're gonna bring back dinosaurs because I 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.160 don't think they have a reason to bring back dinosaurs. 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:17.399 Do you think they have a reason to bring back 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:18.239 the wooly mouse. 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:20.800 Yes, because it's a step to getting to the wooly mammoth, 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:24.440 which will then help save the Asian elephant population and 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.200 bring back flora that has been gone for a long time. 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.680 That if we can bring it, maybe the Earth will 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:30.760 be changed and saved. 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:32.240 You're not down to save the earth. 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.280 We will not live to see this. 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.080 Do you see how the world is right now? Diamonds? 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.919 But if they're bringing these animals back, who's to say 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:41.640 that there's not technology out there, which we know there 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:44.440 already is that can just make you live forever. 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.720 I have I don't know if quantum Yeah, well, I 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:49.799 used to want to live forever, but now I'm very 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:56.519 I'm becoming a very pessimistic person. Like I don't want 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:56.920 to say that. 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.799 You say it, no, I can't, but listen. 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.400 If I'm not meant to live forever, then maybe there's 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:05.280 a reason I don't want to see what the world 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:07.200 is going to be like in the next few months, 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:09.200 not in the next few years. 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.239 See, I'm like a I think I'm more of a 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.040 hopeful person where I think things are bad right now 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:14.960 and everybody feels it. 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:15.600 We all know it. 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.480 I don't care what your politics are, you know in 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.240 your heart things are not great right now. This is 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.400 not the happiest time of our lives. This is not 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.360 the most politically amazing time of our lives, more peaceful, 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.680 none of that. But I think everything goes through a cycle, 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:31.760 and I think this is just the downside of that cycle, 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:35.040 and hopefully it will come back up. Sure, I've never 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:38.960 seen such a downside of my life, however, and. 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.680 This is coming from someone who has lived through how 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:43.480 many unprecedented times. 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:43.680 All of them. 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:46.960 This is the worst, literally everything I used to be 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:50.160 afraid of as a little kid. Global warming, tornadoes all 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:54.560 over the place, pandemics, a depression or recession, if that's 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.120 what you want to call it in fancy terms whatever. 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:57.800 I was like, Oh, I hope those things ever happen, 0:03:57.840 --> 0:03:59.400 and my parents will be like, that's never gonna happen 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:00.000 to you. Don't worry. 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.600 People aren't gonna let these things take flight and here. 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.000 We are just fucking flying through it. 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:07.120 It's crazy. 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.280 But it's funny that we're talking about all this because 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:11.760 our episode today. 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:18.120 Is about happiness. Oh yes, feeling good? No, yeah, sure, no. 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.400 It's very hard to be happy right. 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:21.560 Now, it is. 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:26.000 But you know what, I am stubborn and I just 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.960 refuse to let people snatch my joy. Like there's so 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.760 much that we can still be happy about on this planet. 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:34.800 We have good lives, we have healthy families, we have, 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:36.760 you know, a lot of good stuff going for us. 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:40.120 We're in careers that we like, knock on wood, We're pretty. 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:40.679 Healthy at the moment. 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:42.480 You know, none of those things stay, and I think 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:44.159 even the bad times they don't say. That is why 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:45.600 I have tattooed across my heart. 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:47.840 This too shall pass, because on. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.920 Your best days and your worst days, it's not gonna 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:51.960 be there forever. So just feel it at that moment. 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.440 And right now we're really feeling some shit, So let's 0:04:54.440 --> 0:05:02.440 talk about happiness. Sure recorded this episode to be completely honest, 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:04.880 and I know what my happiness score was, and I 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:07.720 was thinking I was a little delusional. I don't know. 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:08.760 I think I'm gonna keep it. 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:12.480 You're crazy, Yeah, get to Okay. His name is Layton Campbell. 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.680 Fun fact about Layton, I actually grew up with his 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:19.520 little brothers, the middle There are five kids in the family, 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.480 and I grew up with his middle brother and then 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.480 met his second to youngest brother when I was in college, 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.080 and then I met him, So I've known them like 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.000 the family for a very long time. And he wrote 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:33.880 a book about being happy and I think all of 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:35.760 us could use that some Moreland honors. 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:38.200 So here's Layton. 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:45.960 All right, I am here with Layton Campbell. High Layton, 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:49.159 who it's It's you just called me Mata, which is 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.480 very funny because obviously I've known you for a very 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:51.920 long time. 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:53.040 Because now when I. 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.040 Meet people specifically through work, they all call me by 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.320 my last name, which is Gandhi. And then when anyone 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:58.880 drops that, people say, who's up? 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:00.799 Who's his person? I'm an insider. 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:04.440 You are an insider. So I have you here for 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:06.200 a lot of reasons. One, you came to town and 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:07.039 you've had a good time. 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:08.760 Right, amazing you saw Othello. 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.760 It was absolutely amazing. People need to go see it. 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:13.400 Really. Yeah, what was so great about it? 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:17.560 Well, first of all, I love Denzel okay, and he 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:21.320 was awesome. And I went to see Denzel, but Jake 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.839 Jenlellen Hall. I probably didn't pronounce that right. Did he 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:25.560 stole the show? 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:26.160 Really? 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:30.560 He was absolutely fabulous. Go for Denzel, fall in love 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:30.920 with Jake? 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.920 What a good review? Did you guys pay ten thousand 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:35.760 dollars for these tickets because we heard they were through 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:36.279 the roof crazy? 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:37.520 We got a discount nine thousand. 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:40.080 Oh wow, thank god, glad you did that. 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:42.320 This New York crisis. It's amazing. 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:42.760 All right. 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:44.880 So I have you here for a specific reason because 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:48.240 you have been talking about something, writing about something, and 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.320 researching a little bit something that is really close to 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:53.000 my heart and all of our hearts, which is happiness, 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.840 something Diamond could find a little more of at some 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:59.440 point that was actually a pretty happy person, I think. 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:02.440 But you have a book, the Happiness Equation, where you 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.080 talk about the things that make us happy. There's a 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:06.359 test you can take, by the way, if you go 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.040 to your happiness eq dot com. 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:10.040 Correct, you can take the test. 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.720 It's seven questions and based on the answers to those 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:14.160 seven questions, you are going to get a score. 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:15.600 And then you can start doing the. 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:18.240 Work on yourself to figure out why is my score 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:18.720 what it is? 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:19.880 And here's where I'm nervous. 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:20.320 Okay. 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.680 I took the tests. First time I took it, I 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:23.840 swear I got a ninety seven. 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:24.320 Okay. 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:26.520 I was talking to your brother about it. He's like, 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:29.280 I don't think anyone's ever gotten a ninety seven. Hi, 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:30.320 you take it again. 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:32.880 So I took it again that time I got a 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:33.480 ninety five. 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:34.240 Okay. 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:36.720 I may be delusional about my answers. 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:41.040 Maybe not. I mean from an outsider's view, you know, 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:45.040 I think you're doing in terms of the quiz and 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.760 the questions and all that, I can see why you 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.480 would score high in a lot of these categories. That's nice. 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.640 It's up to you to determine, like how you show 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.320 up in different areas. But you saying that you have 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:57.880 a high score is not surprising to me. 0:07:58.120 --> 0:07:59.760 Okay. So Diamond, will you come over to this mic 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:01.680 first second, because I want us both to answer these 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.600 questions together. Okay, So give. 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:07.800 Us the questions and I think we'll both tell you 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:08.680 where we fell on this. 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:09.320 Okay. 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:10.320 Okay, So the first. 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.640 One, first one is are your basic human needs being met? 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:13.239 Yes? 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.520 Okay. Second one, do you belong to any groups that 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:18.360 meet regularly and are meaningful to you. 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:21.480 Yes, yes, I guess she started to say no, but 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.440 then I told her that you said this show could 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.160 be a meaningful group, and she went back and said yes, sure. 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.040 And also her context for your listeners and viewers, it's 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.719 your family can be that group also, Okay, you know. 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.720 So, yes, she's very close with her family one hundred percent. 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:39.439 The idea is where I'm trying to identify people who 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.240 wake up, go to work, come home, they say hi, 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.640 and buy to people, but they have no meaningful connections 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.719 with other people. Those are the people that really I'd 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.000 like to shake them out of that potentially and have 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:51.280 them go and connect with other people. 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:53.560 Okay, So that's kind of getting harder and harder though now, 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.560 because as much as we have more technology, it's actually 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:59.640 disconnecting people more than connecting people, because you feel like 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:01.640 you're talking. I'm guilty of this. I feel like I'm 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:03.840 talking to people. Oh yeah, I know what so and 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:05.720 so is doing. I don't know if I've actually talked 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.800 to that person in months, but I see what they're 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.760 doing on Instagram and I think, yep, I know what's 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:12.560 going on in your life. 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.440 No, I don't. I know what I put on Instagram, 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.040 people think they know what's going on in my life. 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:16.520 No it's not. 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:18.640 Yeah, it's you know, we only put the best stuff 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:22.400 on there, so that connection seems to be really disconnected anymore. 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.400 Yeah, So I talk about that in the book. Technology 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:27.400 is not going anywhere. It makes no sense to even 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:28.120 try and do that. 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:30.520 I'm like, unplug it, find it, and unplug. 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:31.679 It wherever it is if you can. 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.400 If that is for your life, sure, one hundred percent. 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:36.800 But trying to make a societal move where we're gonna 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.280 like get off of social media not happening. It's not 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:43.480 going anywhere. So I think online friends, chat groups, social media, 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:46.079 all that stuff has its place and can be awesome. 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.280 And not trying to tell anybody to go away from it. 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.360 But what I am encouraging people, and it's in the 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.920 book also, is you need to go and have a 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:57.240 group of people that you physically meet with in person, 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:01.880 that you hug, handshake, icon tech, the whole human thing, 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:05.200 the way we were designed to be like communal creatures. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.280 You have to scratch that itch, and technology is not 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.200 going to do it. So I'm not trying to replace 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.040 technology tell people to stop. I'm just telling them you 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.720 need to add the component of having a physical group 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:16.720 of people that you meet. 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.920 With, because vibrations are real and you feed off of 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.040 each other and you need a human connection. I know 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.319 when we stayed home during COVID, we actually broadcast from 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:25.199 home for like a. 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:25.760 Year and a half. 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:27.280 Oh wow, it was forever. 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:29.120 I know you're from Florida, so there was like novid 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.760 down there. I just kept going normally. 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.040 What was going on? 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.160 Yeah, my parents are in Tampa, and they're like, no, 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:41.679 everyone's fine. People's faces. So it really changed for us, 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:45.000 and I realized how much I disliked working remotely in 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:48.280 this specific job and how important these weirdos really are 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:49.680 to me in my life. 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:50.640 Diamond is one of my. 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:54.600 Favorite people who I actually between every break on the air, 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:56.240 I go into her studio and sit with her and 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:57.959 we just like talk about other stuff that has nothing 0:10:57.960 --> 0:10:59.480 to do with what's going on in here, and I 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.200 don't know what I do, No, I do know what 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.280 I would do without that, And it was terrible. 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:04.079 I hated it. 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:05.720 I loved it. 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.760 Diamond is one step away from being a female insel. 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:17.000 That hurts. That hurts no, but she's very happy. She's 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.679 very content being at home watching her shows, hanging out 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.160 with her family, and that's it. She doesn't care much 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:24.080 about the rest of it. 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.440 The thing that I think I have that maybe a 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.080 lot of people don't have is I live in the 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.400 house with multip like my entire family. 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:32.240 So you love yeah, you actually like them. 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.000 I'm in the house with people all day. 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:35.200 I loved it. 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:39.200 Yeah, we were in your room now, mom like things 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:39.440 like that. 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.160 Yeah, that's right, So that's good. So one of the 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.280 things that Diamond and I were actually talking about today 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:47.320 speaking of social media and human connection. And you have kids, 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.080 So how old is your oldest child? Eighteen, so you 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:54.880 definitely will know about this. You've noticed such a rise 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:58.760 for years at this point of people being sad and 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.000 instead of taking it to friends, they take it to 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:04.040 social media and they are crying and they pick up 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.760 a camera and they start to record themselves and then 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.760 they post that online for other people that they have 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.200 no connection with, and they do not know to come 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.520 and leave them comments that could be good comments or 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.559 they could be terrible comments. What is this about and 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:19.640 how do you think that impacts happiness? 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:23.800 Okay, can't speak to this from personal experience because in 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.400 our household, the rule is no social media until you're 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.760 a senior in high school. And when you're a senior 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:31.880 in high school, you have no rules, no curfew, You 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:33.640 can come and go, you do whatever you want. And 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.520 the idea is you're about to go to college anyway, 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:38.640 or you're going about to start your life, whatever's next 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:40.760 for you, So we want to you to have a 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.760 training wheels year where you can do whatever you want 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.000 because we're right around the corner from us not even 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.960 really having any control of your life anyway. So that 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:52.640 was our rule. So we never experienced that with my son, 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:54.520 and we have you know, three others that are coming 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.559 right behind them, and it worked so far. You know, 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:59.679 we'll see where it goes. But I don't know what 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.199 that's like like because my kids haven't done it. And 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:07.320 then when we released him to the wild, he's like, uh, 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:09.800 I don't even really want to be on it that much. 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:13.880 He's on it now and he has like he's one 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.080 of those people. He follows people, but he has no 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:20.040 posts that's like his vibe unless there is a hidden 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:24.440 burner account that he's crying and spilling his guts and 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.000 how I'm a bad father. And all that we have 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.840 a great relationship, but it's possible he's got a secret account. 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.280 One of the things that you talked about was dopamine 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:36.319 and sort of instant gratification. And I think because Diamond 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:38.400 was saying, this phenomenon of people crying in the phone 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.360 and like posting it all the time is becoming normal 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:42.120 to people. 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:43.480 That's a very normal thing. 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.440 Like it's the last thing I would ever think of that. 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.240 I'm sad and I'm crying, my face is puffy and 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:49.520 there's like SnO coming out of my nose, and I 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.480 pick up a camera like this is me, guys, let's 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.720 talk about it. I don't want people to see that. 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.880 But she's saying it's becoming normal, and in my head, 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:59.240 I just think there's nothing normal about that. Normal is 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.200 connecting with human not connecting with a bunch of strangers who, 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:03.000 let's be honest, have of them. 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:04.920 We're gonna shit on you for this. What are you doing? 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.560 Yeah, I think I look at my little cousins. It's 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.560 not normal for us, right because we grew up without 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.679 social media and crying online would get you clowned by everyone. 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:15.280 Now it's like, okay, we. 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:18.160 Have to take care of people's feelings and be more 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.840 sensitive with them so they feel like at least my 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.280 little cousins, they have pictures of them crying, like they 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:26.640 pick up the phone cry take a picture, So send 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.240 it to our chat. Our group chat is literally called 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.800 real tears because we make fun of them. And so 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:33.800 now they're like, Okay, we're not gonna post it online, 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:35.760 but we're gonna send it to you guys. But they 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.640 think it's normal. I'm like, this is a little nuts. 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:42.360 Yeah, I think it's that may be one of those dopamine, 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.400 you know, hit type of things, because you put that 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.440 out there and now you're getting comments, you're getting likes, 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.160 you get into the people who sympathize with you, which 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:54.160 is one level of probably dopamine. Then you get the 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:58.560 haters and the trolls. That's probably even you're getting something 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:01.160 out of that as well too. It's negative, but it's 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.720 like I'm getting interaction. It's like the one of the 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.320 worst things for a post, and I've done this. I 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.560 think everybody's done it. At some point. You make the 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:11.640 best post in the world and literally nobody cares. 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.200 I got shadow Band because apparently Instagram flagged me as 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.960 a pedophile for some reason. And I'm not kidding baby 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.480 in hot, you're not only allowed to use those terms together. 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.280 Okay, hot problematic. 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.720 Yeah, it's a constant problem over here. Do you take 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:26.720 it down or you just leave it? 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.680 I leave it. I leave everything up. I open booked. 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.000 It's like, it is what it is, it's who I am. 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:33.400 Take her or leave it. 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.760 Because it doesn't give you a sense of worth. 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:36.920 Or value, not at all. 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:40.000 It's trying to, you know, help people. Okay, So I 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.840 have personal stuff, I have business stuff, I have book stuff. 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.000 So I wear a bunch of hats and I just 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:47.360 put it out there. And it's like, if people love it, cool, 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.400 If they don't love it, that's cool too. 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:02.480 It's good that your kids don't have social media then, 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:04.120 because I was going to ask you if they ever 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:05.280 come like, duh, dude, take that down. 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:06.080 That's so cringey. 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.760 Oh. I run pretty much every post by them, Oh 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.720 do you? Oh yeah? And they hate most of it. 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:12.920 So why do you run it by them? 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:14.000 Just so they could be like this is you want 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:15.480 to make sure I'm being consistent. 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:18.880 Fair enough? So okay, this is a yes or no. 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:23.480 Fame is the most deadly drug known to man. I 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.240 used to think it was fentanyl, but I'm starting to fame. 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:28.640 It begins a letter F for sure, one of those. 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.320 I could see how that would be problematic, but I 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:34.520 would probably think fame is like money. It doesn't really 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.560 change you. It just amplifies a person that you are. 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:40.520