1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Dog's Only Podcast with Anthony Walker Jr. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,519 Speaker 2: And Rob McCleod. 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Normally we bring you guys player stories, but today we 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: got special guest Andrew Berry, general manager of the Cleveland 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: Browns aka the Chef. 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: All Man. 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 3: It's a it's an honor and a privilege, you know, 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 3: to have d n V native in the building, you know, 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 3: Andrew Berry. 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: A k A b ak shef let him cook? 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: You know what? 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: What? What was your thoughts? Is this your first time 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: seeing this? 14 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 4: So my wife sent it to me, uh in the spring, 15 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 4: and then my sister sent me that one. But then 16 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 4: this one made me feel old because I was like, honestly, 17 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 4: to this day, I still don't get this. 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: I don't. 19 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 4: I don't, I don't. I don't understand this. Let me 20 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 4: cook this. I don't understand this one. I don't understand 21 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 4: the toy story part of it. I don't understand the 22 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 4: picture of this. So I'm getting a little bit old here. 23 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: That's like Glenn Cook behind you, trying to tell you 24 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: what like you like, no, no, no, no, I got this. 25 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got the mastermind. 26 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 4: I like that one better. 27 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the massive amount right there we go. 28 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: We're gonna give you a little backstory before we get 29 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 3: into it. 30 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: We got the. 31 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: Visuals show show who ab is man? 32 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 2: We don't really I don't really know. 33 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 4: Who's so I'm always the one with the long hair. Okay, 34 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 4: Like it's funny growing up, you know, I always had 35 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 4: at the fro, I had braids, I had locks for 36 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 4: a number of years. So people who knew me growing 37 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 4: up they're always really surprised now that have this like 38 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 4: kind of cleaner cut looking thing. And everybody who knows 39 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 4: me after cause they're like, wait, you had locks and 40 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 4: everything like that. It's like, yeah, So it's it's almost 41 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 4: like these two different worlds. My brother, he's been pretty 42 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 4: consistent all the way through. 43 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, the first time I saw you guys, actually we're 44 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 3: gonna go to this next image right here that shows 45 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 3: this moment in Philly, I was like, wait, am I? 46 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: I never knew you had a twin, And to this 47 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: day I was shot. 48 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 4: It's it's been pretty cool because you know, when you 49 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 4: grow up as a twin, you're always thought of like 50 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 4: as a package, just because largely because like you know, 51 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 4: obviously we look alike, and you get used to being 52 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 4: called the wrong name and everything but everyone thinks of 53 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 4: you as. 54 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: Like a pair. 55 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 4: And probably the first time in our lives that we 56 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 4: were thought of his individuals is when we went off 57 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 4: to college, because we went to different different schools, took 58 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 4: different different career paths. It's been cool now that my 59 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: brother made a you know, a a profession switch and 60 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 4: is now in the NFL, you know, just to see 61 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 4: honestly like him get involved in football and everything. But 62 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 4: now it's it's a little bit of an adjustment because 63 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 4: whether it's players, coaches, agents, whatever. He told me the 64 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 4: other week he was with his family in a restaurant 65 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 4: in Philly and some Browns fan came up to him 66 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 4: and was like, hey, are you Are you Andrew Berry? 67 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 5: He goes, I was where of my Eagles gears? 68 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 4: I got the I don't even know how I got 69 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 4: the question. But so it's I ain't used to that 70 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 4: again a little bit. But we get a good laugh 71 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 4: every week because there's a story like that every week 72 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 4: where someone gets us confused. 73 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm sure I mean you guys obviously Tis 74 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: and Philly, so it wouldn't be too far off. And 75 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 3: then now I think the only way to separate you 76 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 3: two guys is the beer, Like that's the only thing 77 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: I'm seeing right like that when I saw, well, here here, 78 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: here's gonna be the short memory. 79 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: But like anytime one of us has like longer hair 80 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 4: where it's facial hair, longer hair, that'll always be me. 81 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 4: Like he's always had it short, I've always had something. 82 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 4: Just I can't. I can't do the complete corporate look. 83 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 2: So mom and dad, that's that's it. 84 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Andrew's the one with the longer the longer hair 85 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: got it. 86 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: So I'm just curious, like, was it like growing up 87 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: as what a twin? 88 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? It's cool and unique, but it's a little bit 89 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 4: of a double edged sword because on the one hand, 90 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 4: the good parts are especially when you grow up as 91 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 4: you know, when you grow up together as kids, like 92 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 4: you always have someone to play catch with hoops with, 93 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 4: like just kind of like a built in you know, 94 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 4: friend who's going through the same things that that you're 95 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: going through. But honestly, for like eighteen years, like getting 96 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 4: called the wrong name the whole time, you get to 97 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 4: a point where you're just like, okay, I just I 98 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 4: need to be no like I want to be known 99 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 4: as Andrew. I just want kind of my independence because 100 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 4: people think that because you have similar mannerisms and you 101 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 4: look like you have the same interests like you have 102 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 4: you know, you have the same like you get all 103 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 4: the like corny Twin jokes and stuff like that, and 104 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: sometimes that gets old. To be honest, and it's kind 105 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 4: of nice to be just known as a as an individual, 106 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 4: but honestly, it's a huge breast blessing. You know, he's 107 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 4: he's my best friend of my life. We talk regularly, 108 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 4: so it's in that positive but it comes with this annoyances. 109 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure how to be super competitive when it 110 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: came to the ladies, like do. 111 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: You go like trick somebody? 112 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 4: You know what, we were so anti Twin because we 113 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 4: were thought of the package that we never really did 114 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 4: the Franks and stuff that everyone that everyone thought. I'll 115 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 4: be honest, like he was a lot more social than 116 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 4: I was, Like I was a bit more of a homebody. 117 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 4: So you know, just just just have that mystery, you 118 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 4: know with the ladies and everything. Have that mystery, right. 119 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 4: But so we we were even though we looked like 120 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: we're pretty we're pretty different from a personality standpoint, Like 121 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 4: he's a lot more he's a lot more social and 122 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 4: outgoing than I am, and I'm a lot more introverted. 123 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: I guess you could say, okay, all right, I got 124 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: a question man, All right. Oh you know, I think 125 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 1: last year came out that you were doing salary caps 126 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: at like twelve years old, eleven years old, Like how why? 127 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: Like what gauged your interest to do that? 128 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 4: So I think that's one of those like tall tales. 129 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 4: My mom always tells the story that, you know, growing up, 130 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 4: there were like kind of two things like that was 131 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 4: when number one. That was like when Maden was getting 132 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 4: big with franchise mode and everything like that. And she 133 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 4: would tell these stories that we would have these, you know, 134 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 4: pieces of paper with like you know, drafting or like 135 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 4: building the team and everything like that. And then we 136 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 4: had this like so you know you have these foosball sets. 137 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 4: One Christmas we got this like it was essentially like 138 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 4: a foosball game, but it was like a street hockey 139 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: thing that made a ton of sounds that we used 140 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 4: to play with and my brother and I we would 141 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 4: build our own we would build our own leagues. We 142 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 4: would do the schedule, we would do like Russ like, 143 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: we would do like we're so like so she talks 144 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 4: about well, you know, I know Andrew had a lot 145 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 4: of interest early. I'll be honest, like, at that age, 146 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 4: we were just I mean, we were just kind of 147 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 4: messing around, like we we just we just kind of enjoyed, 148 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 4: enjoyed playing. It's not like at that age I was thinking, oh, well, 149 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 4: like I want to run a team or I want 150 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 4: to be a general manager. To be honest, I never 151 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 4: really even thought about that till till after college. But 152 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 4: I guess you could say it's funny how God works 153 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 4: where he can kind of sometimes align your you know, 154 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 4: your interests and your passions with you know, what you 155 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 4: do free vocation. 156 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: He was doing. 157 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 2: You know, That's all I'm saying. 158 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 3: At twelve, what I was where I was playing ball, football, basketball, 159 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: running track, chasing girls, playing video games like outside. You know, 160 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,679 Speaker 3: I wasn't inside too much. I was outside playing around. 161 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: I was not thinking. 162 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 4: About what you have to do when you don't have 163 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: the talent of you guys. 164 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: Right. 165 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 4: I was. 166 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: To sit there Google, you know, let me see this motion. 167 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: Show it to my day, like I'm not running that. 168 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: That's what I was doing. But salary cap is crazy. 169 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: That's a coaching fan background. 170 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: That's exactly right, Yeah, that's exactly I think you should 171 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: do this triple reverse speeds the station of Puerto Ricoto, Rico. 172 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: Let's talk about I guess your your childhood experience when 173 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: it came to sports, right, because not too many people 174 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: probably know your history and accolades as an athlete. 175 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 4: So we you know, growing up, like our household was, 176 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 4: you know, it was big on school and sports. Honestly, 177 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 4: my my my dad, he was you know, he grew 178 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 4: up in Texas, huge Cowboys fans, you know, walked in it, 179 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 4: you walked on at the University of Texas. My mom, 180 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: I grew up in Georgia. Their household huge Falcons fans, 181 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 4: but also huge like hoops fans. So she played you know, 182 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 4: she played college you know, college basketball. So growing up 183 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 4: we were we got involved honestly baseball super young. That 184 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 4: was actually probably my best sport, and then basketball and 185 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 4: then football was actually like the the latest sport that 186 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 4: I played, and largely because it was almost like this 187 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 4: civil war between my mom and my dad. My dad 188 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 4: was like like because like we used to go out 189 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 4: in the backyard, you know, the halftime of Cowboys games, 190 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 4: and it would be my dad would play quarterback I'd 191 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 4: be the receiver. I'd be mikel Yeah, one on one 192 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 4: for all halftime and you go back and watch the 193 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 4: second half. And so we always love we always love football. 194 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 4: But my mom always had a rule. She's like, okay, 195 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 4: you know, the boys, they can't they can't play tackle. 196 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 4: And that wasn't just tackle with pads, but it was 197 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 4: tackle with like you know when you play in like 198 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 4: the neighborhood and everything. Because I was real small growing up. 199 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 4: I was like you, Rodney, I was like, I was 200 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 4: real small growing up. And so she was like she 201 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 4: was afraid that you know, would get hurt. And so 202 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 4: my mom, because she was kind of the you know, 203 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 4: she she's the organized one in the house. So she 204 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 4: handled all the like you know, getting as signed up 205 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 4: for stuff, and so her goal was to get us 206 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 4: in a ton of activities were hopefully by the time 207 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 4: because they had made a promise that we wouldn't get 208 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: into tackle football till till mills throw wow. And so 209 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 4: I started yea. And so what happened to my mom 210 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 4: is like, Okay, I'm gonna take those thirty years. 211 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: You know. 212 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 4: We were all these like travel baseball leagues to play 213 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 4: who we did all these things in hopes that this 214 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 4: like you know, past, we're out of it, but but 215 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 4: that you know that that never happened. And I'll tell 216 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 4: two stories and I'll kind of get to your your question. 217 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 4: So I remember the time I got one of the 218 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 4: times that I always remember that I got in trouble 219 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: the most we were, you know, we were living in 220 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 4: we were living in Texas, and we had a bunch 221 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 4: of neighborhood kids varying ages. Again, we were the small ones, 222 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 4: older kids, and they were about to have like a 223 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 4: you know, a tackle football game, and like we knew 224 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 4: that we couldn't play, but at that point it was like, 225 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 4: all right, I'm playing like I'm playing. And so we 226 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 4: spent the whole evening playing have fun, you know, wall 227 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 4: and game everything, no no issues. And then like thinking, 228 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 4: as we're walking home, it's like all right, like you know, 229 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 4: we're good, no broken bones. You know we're gonna we're gonna, 230 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 4: we're gonna be okay. We've just been running around and 231 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 4: we go inside and immediately parents are looking at cause 232 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 4: like you know, you're grabbing shirts and everything like you 233 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 4: in our minds like okay, cool, we got away with this. 234 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 5: But it's like, you know collar and it was like 235 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 5: what did you do? 236 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: You know, just you know, playing with friends. Okay, It's 237 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 4: like so like what did you do? Play football? 238 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: Okay? 239 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 4: You play tackle pause, one, two, all right, Like I 240 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 4: had like on one side, all right, maybe I can 241 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 4: get away with this. And then like the jumni cricket 242 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 4: side is like, you know you're gonna be you better 243 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 4: tell the truth because it's gonna happen. So I told 244 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 4: the truth, thankfully could and and it was just like 245 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 4: it was like, you know, you just got that like anger, disappointment, 246 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 4: like that type of thing. So finally we get to 247 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 4: the point where thirteen years old can play. 248 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: You know. 249 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 4: It was the it was you know, Pop Warner League. 250 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 4: And that was actually one of the biggest like blow 251 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 4: up fights that my mom and dad had because like 252 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 4: probably in my mom's mind it was like, okay, I 253 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 4: thought this was like gonna kind of away. I never did, 254 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 4: and like, you know, it happens. But she was like 255 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 4: the biggest cheerleader. Like once we started playing, so play 256 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 4: in middle school, get the high school. I was actually 257 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 4: highchool quarterback, right and yeah, and. 258 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 5: We yeah, I tell you what we were. 259 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: We were. 260 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 4: We were Spread. This was like when Spread was just 261 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 4: kind of taken over and the Marin Terrapins at the time, 262 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 4: they were kind of like in this one back, no huddle, 263 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 4: and that's actually what we ran and ran in high school. 264 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 4: So I got to college, I was too small to 265 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 4: play quarterback. I got recruited as a as a corner. 266 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 4: I actually always wanted to go play pack ten football 267 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 4: at Stanford, and the late Buddy Stevens he actually recruited 268 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 4: me at Stanford. I was all excited, was going to 269 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 4: go take an official visit there. He gets fired, you know, 270 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 4: Walt Harris comes in, he was the former pit coach, 271 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 4: comes in, drops the official visit. They he had dropped 272 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 4: me earlier in the fall. So it was like, you know, 273 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 4: you got told no twice. So at that point, my 274 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 4: first visit was actually to Harvard. I didn't know anything 275 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 4: about you know, Harvard by what besides what I saw 276 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: on TV. I really didn't. I just thought it was like, 277 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, like I just like a who whole 278 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 4: bunch of risk kids? 279 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah type of thing. 280 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 4: And I went and visited and it was like, honestly, 281 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 4: like a ton of doubt. Like some of my best 282 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 4: friends to this day. You know, ended up committing there. 283 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 4: They moved me to corner and I played there for 284 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 4: all four It was honestly the biggest blessing in my life. 285 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 4: Played there for all four years. I was an All 286 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 4: Conference and All American player. I got two degrees. I 287 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 4: met my wife, so it's just one of those things 288 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 4: where it's like, you know, ye all American. So it 289 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 4: was a good experience. And then really after that, I 290 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 4: had a you know, I got invited to Rocky Munic 291 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 4: camp with Washington. I was like, so at that point 292 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: they hit eighty players on the roster and I was 293 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 4: like one of the trow guys. Like if they're eighty players, 294 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 4: I was probably like one hundred and twentieth play on 295 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 4: the rocket like that type of thing. You know. Had 296 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 4: a back injury so failed the physical, which probably ended 297 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 4: up being a blessing. Just spared me the you know, 298 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: spared me the time. And then after that I've actually 299 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 4: gotten this sky and with the cold, so probably more 300 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 4: than yeah. 301 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: For yeah, no, I love it. 302 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: We really want to know what, So you transition from 303 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 3: quarterback to corner because you couldn't you couldn't. 304 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: Throw, couldn't throw. You remember that's the reasons. 305 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: Hart Harvard got don't get. 306 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: No hod you got to remember all the players. That's 307 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: that's the reason why. That's all all. 308 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 4: But I could throw in fact, you guys, the game 309 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: that y'all play with, the with the upright game. 310 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 6: Throwing the ball. 311 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: That's easy. 312 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 4: Got you guys, got it? You guys if you want 313 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 4: to if you want to see you guys got challenge, 314 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 4: you just let me know. You just let me know 315 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 4: when to wear. You just let me know when to wear. 316 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: We got it on here, let me know where. Okay, 317 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: you who your opponent? Who you want? 318 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: Not me? 319 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: I got a lot of small. 320 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: Miles, Garrett. I like that one. 321 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 4: I'll take I've seen him throw darts. I'm gonna take 322 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 4: my shot with him. I've seen him throw darts and friends, 323 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 4: so I'll take my I got you, Yeah, I got you. 324 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: That's move. 325 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: Now, you know we can transition to you know, fatherhood 326 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: and you know all the obviously being the NFL GM 327 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. What is it like going home, 328 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, just getting away from the building. 329 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you know, it's good and and and in truth, 330 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 4: that's an area where I've had to grow a lot personally, 331 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 4: in my life because you know, I was never really 332 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 4: good at like leaving work at work, and and really 333 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 4: even up until the first couple of years of marriage, 334 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 4: and then you have kids and your priorities change, or 335 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: like how you have to be at home changes because 336 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 4: you're the center of the world for what probably the 337 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 4: first called I don't know, twelve to fifteen years of 338 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 4: their life and like I couldn't you know, the job is, 339 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: it comes with a lot of demands, Like your phone 340 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 4: is basically like a third arm and it never really stops. 341 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 4: But like at the end of the day, I never 342 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 4: I won the parenting lottery. I had a great mom 343 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 4: and dad, and I feel very blessed and fortunate, and 344 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 4: like the number one thing in my life is to 345 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 4: be a good husband and a good father. And so 346 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 4: it took a lot of time and work because like 347 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 4: when I'm home, I want to be present with my 348 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 4: kids or at least have the dedicated time because like 349 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 4: in the grand scheme of things, they're only little kids 350 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 4: for the very small portion of their life, and so 351 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 4: it took time. But like having kids, it's like being 352 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 4: a father so awesome because like every day is like 353 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 4: new and fun. It's it's humbling and it's hard, but 354 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 4: like to see how you know, a six year old 355 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 4: to four year old to two year old, and there's 356 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 4: not a day that goes by that Like they don't 357 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 4: make me just genuinely laugh, like spend spending time. So 358 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 4: they end up being a really good i'd say escape 359 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 4: from like the stresses of work, but then also sadly 360 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 4: like they bring perspective, like in terms of what actually 361 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 4: matters and what's actually is important. 362 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: Definitely, we definitely right up next, so you know, we 363 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: don't we don't see a thinking what you mean, can 364 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: you leave work at work? You know while you go home? 365 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 2: You know, man, it's it's tough for me. 366 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 3: I think the wife kind of under she understands the 367 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 3: process and my routine and regiment throughout the season, and 368 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: it's I have. 369 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: A moment when I come home to. 370 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 3: Dedicate to her, like our time is dinner time, you 371 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, where we sit down, we talk 372 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: about our day, talk about stresses, how it was work, 373 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 3: anything that we need to kind of get out for 374 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 3: like an hour out and a half and then I'll 375 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: like get back into film. 376 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 2: And that's the hard part. 377 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 3: I've always asked guys in the locker room who have kids, 378 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: because I obviously would like to have kids on my own, 379 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 3: but just finding that balance between work and home and 380 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: being able to separate the two. And some guys are like, look, 381 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 3: I have to wake up extra early in the morning, 382 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: like when everybody's sleep, that's my time to sneak in 383 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 3: extra hours. Or I have to make sure that I 384 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 3: do everything before I leave the building, so when I'm home, 385 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: I'm home. 386 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: So what what's your routine? 387 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 4: That's a great so Number one, I'd say the fact 388 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 4: that you already have a structure to protect your private 389 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 4: time in private world, like that's going to give you. 390 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 4: I didn't have that before I kids, Like I didn't 391 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 4: do a good job of that. So I'd say, first 392 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 4: of all, that's like a you know, very very smart 393 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: and for thinking of yourself. For me, it's probably a 394 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 4: combination on both ends of what you just described. So 395 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 4: you know, I take my I take my kids to 396 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 4: school every day with very rare, exciting and again I 397 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 4: did when I started the job. I didn't used to 398 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 4: do that. But the way I do it is so 399 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 4: I wake up at five to go to a five 400 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 4: thirty CrossFit class, go from five thirty to six, come back, 401 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 4: you know, shower changes. My wife is getting them ready 402 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 4: to go for the car, and I take the kids 403 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 4: so she can go exercise, have a little bit of 404 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 4: time to herself, go through the work day. When I leave, 405 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 4: I always say, like, unless there's an emergency, I'm going 406 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 4: to go home and be home to tuck my kids 407 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 4: into bed, reading them and tuck them into bed. And 408 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 4: when I get home, I have a I guess similar 409 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 4: to you, Rodney, basically a ninety minute block where I 410 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 4: actually give my wife my phone. I'm like, hey, if 411 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 4: this person, this person, this person calls, then I need 412 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 4: to step away and take it. Everybody else can wait 413 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 4: for these you know, for these ninety minutes, so from 414 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 4: six thirty to their bed at eight. Like it's probably 415 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 4: less so that I'm physically present with them, but I 416 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 4: have a like I said, Earl, I have a tough 417 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 4: time being mentally present when I'm thinking about whatever I 418 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 4: still need to do for work during today or what 419 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 4: may pop up. Having her have that and where I 420 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 4: can be emotionally and physically president like, that's helped me 421 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 4: a lot. And that's something that I had to learn 422 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 4: honestly the hard way. So then when they go to 423 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 4: bed at eight, then I'm catching up on whatever work 424 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 4: I need to do, like taking care of and then 425 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 4: when that's wrapped up, you know, Britain and I will 426 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 4: have our private one on one time. So that's kind 427 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 4: of my you know, daily you know, daily routine and 428 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 4: then the other thing like having things during the week. 429 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 4: So every Friday we alternate family date night or date 430 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 4: night with you know, just me one on one with 431 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 4: my wife. And like I do everything I can. 432 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: Right now, like I listen, I am single, I take 433 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: work home. I am I'm horrible, I'm bad, Like I 434 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: cut the family off after a loss, like I don't 435 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: want to talk for two days, don't talk to me, 436 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: Like that's just me. 437 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 4: So I'll tell you, you know, honestly, I sound like 438 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 4: an old guy, but when I was your age, I 439 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 4: did the same thing, like I took I always took 440 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 4: work home. So it was tough for me to break 441 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 4: those habits. And I'll say one of the other blessings 442 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 4: of having kids now those days where would take me 443 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 4: two days, like I wouldn't want to talk to anybody, 444 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 4: just go off, Like you can't do that with little kids, 445 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 4: and to be honest, they'll do something like so silly 446 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 4: or whatever. That's just like I can't. I just can't 447 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 4: be in a. 448 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: No doubt. So yeah, that's awesome. Obviously great wife. You 449 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: want to talk about her a little bit a little shout. 450 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 4: Out, Yeah, no, uh, you know Britain she is. I 451 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 4: would say, like she is the like best surest person 452 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 4: that I've met my entire life. And I got I 453 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 4: got lucky. She she's incredibly smart. She she got degrees 454 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 4: from Harvard. She got an NBA from from Yale. So yeah, 455 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 4: so she was actually the school record holder in the 456 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 4: long jump. Oh so she and so her she came 457 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 4: from very you know, very very I'll say, just very humble, 458 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 4: humble beginnings. You know, had a guidance counselor in her 459 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 4: life that encouraged her to apply to Harvard school that 460 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 4: she didn't think she could afford. She was raised by 461 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 4: a single mother, you know, gotten to Harvard, decided to 462 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 4: walk onto the track team, and then ended up becoming 463 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 4: the school record of the long jump since been since 464 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 4: been you know, taken taken over. But at the time 465 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 4: of graduation, and she like, she's incredible because she's she's smart, 466 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 4: she's funny, she's she's one of she's truly like the 467 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 4: nicest person I've ever met. Like I don't even know 468 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 4: why she married me, honestly, to be honest, and she 469 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 4: has been in you know, worked in tex She's an 470 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 4: executive for you know, a tech company. Full story, and 471 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 4: the way that she's able to honestly just like juggle 472 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 4: everything is phenomenal. As much as I don't like to 473 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 4: tell her, she's really funny, but she's definitely the better 474 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 4: half in the relationship. 475 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: I would say, he just said he didn't go outside. 476 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: He was a homebody. So I'm assuming you was in 477 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: dorms a lot or at home. How did y'all meet? 478 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 4: So so she again probably like my brother, like we're 479 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 4: pretty much on opposite ends of the spectrum in terms 480 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: of in terms of personality. So she had a she 481 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 4: had a date event for her. They call him finals 482 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 4: clubs at heart, but they're basically sororities and fraternity and 483 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 4: she was scrammling at the last minute. We actually had 484 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 4: a bunch of mutual friends, even like my college roommates, 485 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 4: just running athletics circles, but we had never met, and 486 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 4: she so she basically like at the time, it was 487 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 4: like she reached out, actually sent an email and was like, hey, 488 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 4: I know, this is weird. We've never met that like 489 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 4: have this like date event going on. We have a 490 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 4: lot of mutual friends, like are you free? And I 491 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 4: was kind of like, I was like, shoot, like if 492 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 4: someone has like the guts to like just reach out 493 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 4: out of the blue. Heard a lot of nice things 494 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 4: about her. So we went on the date event. We 495 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 4: hit it off immediately and we just started we started 496 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 4: hanging out, and the rest was history. 497 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: So I got email. I might have to send an email. 498 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: That might be the way you're email. 499 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 3: That's crazy, that's that's the old school. 500 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: Email. 501 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, you feel me, that's the that's the way we 502 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 3: get down emails. Now it's d M, you know, and 503 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 3: whatever else exists in the world. 504 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: How are your Do you have social media? 505 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 4: I do? Well. 506 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: The only thing I have burner burner. 507 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 4: I have a have a Twitter account that I use 508 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 4: for news only, but I don't I don't post. I'm 509 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 4: not on Instagram, on ticket I don't even know Facebook accounting. 510 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: She like, you know, since we live in the DM 511 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 1: world and you see all the players and coaches get 512 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: DMS crazy things like you know, do you see those 513 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: things or anything? 514 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 4: I don't get those because, like mine is pretty private, 515 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 4: but I have it because I know what all y'all get, like. 516 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: That world. 517 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 2: And it affects your weak very bud, I tell. 518 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 4: You that very much, does it? Very much? 519 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: Does? 520 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: What was I about to say? 521 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 3: So when it comes to your why you said she 522 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 3: currently works now, I feel like that's you wouldn't necessarily think, 523 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 3: you know, in our world, right, like there's a lot 524 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 3: of stay at home my wife. So how did you 525 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 3: guys come to that sort of agreement? 526 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 4: You know? Part of it is she one, she has 527 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 4: a very like strong and accomplished career. She's doing something 528 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 4: that she's very passionate about, and like she likes the 529 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 4: work that she's doing. And then even quite candidly like 530 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 4: early in our marriage, like when you start off in 531 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 4: the NFL, like you don't really make any money, like 532 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 4: that type of thing, and early in our career she 533 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 4: was she she was much for the longer, like she 534 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 4: was much further long in her career than you know 535 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 4: than I was. She's she's she's had a lot of success. 536 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 4: She started off at Google, went and got her M 537 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 4: b a you know, then actually worked in healthcare and 538 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 4: then went to her tech company full you know, full story. 539 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 4: So like, she's been very supportive of my professional dreams 540 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 4: and quite honestly made some sacrifices along, you know, along 541 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 4: the way. And so like, I don't think that it 542 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 4: means that you have to house have a household that 543 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 4: to support one persons, it makes it where you can't 544 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 4: support the others. That doesn't mean that it doesn't present 545 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 4: challenges for for both of us. But just like I 546 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 4: feel very happy and fulfilled with you know, what I'm 547 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 4: able to do with my career, I want her to 548 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,239 Speaker 4: feel equally, if not more, you know, fulfilled with with 549 00:26:59,280 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 4: what she's doing. 550 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 551 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 3: I think a lot of women sometimes, you know, when 552 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 3: they enter into this space, they struggle with their identity 553 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 3: and and you know, losing their purpose because most of 554 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: the time they're sacrificing so much for us. And so uh, 555 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 3: you know, I've I've always had that similar mindset with 556 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 3: my wife and wanting her to fulfill her dreams just 557 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: as much as me to create that that same feeling 558 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: that that we have when you reach you know what 559 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 3: I'm saying that that that that high you know in 560 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: that mountaintop. And so it's it's special just to see 561 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 3: her be able to man like thrive and do everything 562 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 3: and still run the you know what I'm saying, run 563 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 3: and function the family in the way that she does. 564 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: She's impressive. 565 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 4: She's phenomenal. 566 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: Phenomen We love to hear it. Yeah, learning taking notes, Yeah, 567 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: to learn from you and raw y'all got the blueprint 568 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: for Yeah. 569 00:27:54,920 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 3: Man, Ladies out there single looking for some learner. Yeah, 570 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 3: somebody who knows independent, who's you know, got purpose. 571 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: In their life. 572 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 3: Right, all that here you go, just hit him in 573 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 3: the DM email email. 574 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: If you don't see the email about. 575 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 2: Looking, I feel like we obviously we need you. 576 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 3: Just talked about it like how it started off of 577 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 3: you in the league, right, so let's let's let's get 578 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 3: into that a little bit and talk about like your story. 579 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: That is power in the story. And you didn't just 580 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: become the. 581 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 3: Youngest GM, the youngest, the youngest, the youngest GM and 582 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 3: NFL history overnight. So talk about that that process. 583 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. So my first job in the NFL, I was 584 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 4: a scouting assistant under Tom Telasco, who's the general. He 585 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 4: was the scouting director at the time. He's general manager 586 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 4: of the Chargers, and then you know Bill pollm was 587 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 4: the GM who's obviously one of two executives as in 588 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame. And being a scouting assistant it's 589 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 4: like being it's the equivalent of being a quality control 590 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 4: coach on the on the coaching side, except the difference is, 591 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 4: you know, when I got in, like you were, you 592 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 4: were doing like as a Scott's just everyone's your boss, 593 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 4: not just like Bill and Tom. But the trainer logistics 594 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 4: equipment had because like you're you're doing kind of the 595 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 4: grunt work on the football side. But I was also 596 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 4: picking up players at midnight for tryouts, running in the physicals, holding, holding, 597 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 4: you know, change it at practice. He did, he did, 598 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 4: But you know I so I have a great respect 599 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 4: and appreciation for for for people who kind of work 600 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 4: their way up, and I was fortunate. I've been very, 601 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 4: very fortunate to have bosses and managers that gave me 602 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 4: opportunity throughout my career. So my second year is a 603 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 4: scouting assistant, I had the chance to do some basically 604 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 4: like pro advanced work, and as part of that, I 605 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 4: would do coverage notes and cutups of the dbs and 606 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 4: then actually present it to the offensive staff and Peyton Manning, 607 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 4: who was our quarterback at the time, on a meeting 608 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 4: on Tuesday, and that got me the opportunity to then 609 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 4: the next year become a pro scout where I would 610 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 4: cover half the NFL. I would do the you know, 611 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 4: the do the advanced work for and then you know, 612 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 4: play a role in helping out with the emergency list, 613 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 4: free agency things like that. So after my third year 614 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 4: in the league, you know, we have a tough year. 615 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 4: You know, they make a change in the organization, and 616 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 4: then Ryan Grigson comes in as the general manager and 617 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 4: you know, so honestly also our first year being married, 618 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 4: so I was like, oh, dang, like know we have turnover. 619 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 4: What's gonna happen? And that was probably like the second 620 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 4: I would say, like big break in my career because 621 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 4: Ryan came in, I didn't know him for he didn't 622 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 4: know me from Adam and he was another boss that 623 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 4: just gave me opportunity. And through that opportunity, I was 624 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 4: able to oversee the pro department. I learned, Uh, That's 625 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 4: where I truly learned contract management in the cap a 626 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 4: Walk and did a lot of work in that areas 627 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 4: and then this is when I would say analytics, research 628 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 4: and strategy was just starting to become maybe a little 629 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 4: bit more there started to be a little bit more 630 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 4: attention around the league with it, and started doing some 631 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 4: preliminary stuff to try and build a research group in Indie. 632 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 4: Fast forward for more years. You know, uh, I had 633 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 4: the opportunity to be the vice president player personnel in 634 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 4: Cleveland under Sash you under Sashi Brown, and that gave 635 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 4: me the experience of managing pro college and then what 636 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 4: I would call like a research and strategy or analytics 637 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 4: hybrid within scouting. And that's probably where I learned the 638 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 4: most about people management, you know, certainly like data and 639 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 4: predictive analysis, you know, plus all the other things that 640 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 4: you're doing when you're you're running multiple groups. So was 641 00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 4: in that role for two and a half years. Left 642 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 4: to go to Philly in twenty nineteen. You know, we're 643 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 4: obviously Rod and I crossed over Howie Rosman, who I 644 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 4: would say is not only like one of my biggest mentors, 645 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 4: but one of my best friends in the he's family 646 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 4: now honestly, you know, he gave me the opportunity to 647 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 4: oversee football operations. So it wasn't just you know, pro 648 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 4: and college scouting analytics, but you know performance, you know, medical, 649 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 4: player development, all the other things that come along with 650 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 4: like running a team from a day to day perspective, 651 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 4: and that was probably the job that prepared me the 652 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 4: most before you know, the making the transition back here 653 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 4: is general manager because I feel like oftentimes it's people 654 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 4: think of the general manager role as just scouting, but 655 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 4: that's just a very. It's an important piece, but that's 656 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 4: a very, that's a very. It's a leadership and management position, 657 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 4: and there are so many things that go into making 658 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 4: a team successful other than just the players that are 659 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 4: in the locker room, but how you support them, how 660 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 4: you support you know, the rest of the operation to 661 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 4: make sure the on field product is good. 662 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 2: Man, I'm highly impressed. 663 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: So you turned down Goldman sects. I did so coming 664 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: out of college. I did do quality control and pick 665 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: up people at eleven o'clock at night out. 666 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 4: I'll tell you two stories to that a walk so 667 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 4: I will never forget my conversation, particularly my parents. 668 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: I know, I. 669 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 4: Was like, yeah, you know, I'm because like it was 670 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 4: it was great. I like I had entered there. I 671 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 4: learned a lot and I knew it was like a 672 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 4: good resume builder, but like I didn't. I wasn't like 673 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 4: I didn't really like it. I was trying to talk 674 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 4: myself into it. And I remember telling them was like okay, 675 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 4: like I'm gonna transition and go from you know this too, 676 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 4: I'm accept this specially I'm gonna make twenty five thousand 677 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 4: dollars a year. And there was you know that science 678 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 4: that I talked about. After I told him I was 679 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 4: just playing football. 680 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: It was like. 681 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: Not again. 682 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 4: But like they were always especially as like okay, man, 683 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 4: like you just spent four years at Harvard, like but 684 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 4: but but my parents were great, like they were they 685 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 4: were great. They were like Andrew, like you've always worked, 686 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 4: You're you're a good kid. You've worked really hard. Like 687 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 4: if this is what you want to do, like we're 688 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 4: gonna support you with do you do well with it? 689 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 4: So I feel very very fortunate. Now I will also 690 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 4: share my I'll never forget this. No, she was great. 691 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 4: So the fortune thing is she like I mean, like 692 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 4: it didn't matter. So she actually spent a year in 693 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 4: South Africa doing philanthropic work when we were so she 694 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 4: like we were I was in Indianapolis. She was in 695 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 4: Kazuluan's Hall, South Africa for the first year out of 696 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 4: the first year out of so that was like less 697 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 4: of an issue. But I was our first road trip, 698 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 4: you know, you know how it is preseason, like playing 699 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 4: is packed with like you know, in the back and everything. 700 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 4: And I was sitting next the team chaplain's named Eric Simpson. 701 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 4: He's still there today, and you know, he was being nice. 702 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 4: He was just because like you know, I was new there. 703 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 4: This is a group that had been long established and 704 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 4: I'll never forget you turned me was like, oh, you know, 705 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 4: like you know, hey, you know, what's your name? You know, 706 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 4: you know, just just kind of making small talk, and 707 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 4: you know, he asked questions, okay, like yo, you went 708 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 4: to her, what do you do here? I was like, 709 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 4: you know, I'm I'm a scouting assist I want and 710 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 4: he looked at me and he goes, so, let me 711 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 4: get this straight. You graduate for and you you're an 712 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 4: assistant scout here, And like it was that. I was like, man, 713 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 4: dangly you say like that, but like honestly, like I 714 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 4: would never like I feel very fortunate with my path 715 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 4: that did. Like kids, if you're watching pursue your passions. 716 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 4: That's why. That's honestly like what I would say, because 717 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 4: you know, I feel very blessed and fortunate about the 718 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 4: path that I've been able to walk in there. 719 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 3: As you were on that path, did you know your indgo? 720 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 3: I mean, because you talked about, you know, you have 721 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 3: been in a lot of different positions. 722 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: Having them questions. By the way I watch really preparing 723 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: for something, especially athlete. 724 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm listening, and I'm like, man, I mean, 725 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 3: you've you've worn a lot of different hats, You've done 726 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 3: a lot of different roles and positions, and I mean, 727 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 3: you've talked about opportunity, But were you did you have 728 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 3: an end goal in mind? 729 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 4: I always thought I wanted to run a team because 730 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 4: I thought it was the intersection of a lot of 731 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 4: like different like you know, whether it's you know, football, 732 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 4: you know, business, like researcher, like it was the intersection 733 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 4: of a lot of things. But I, in fairness, I 734 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 4: probably thought it. I probably thought that was my end 735 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 4: goal at the time because I didn't fully understand what 736 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 4: the actual job entailed. Like I don't. I actually wonder 737 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 4: sometimes like would I have had the same aiming porter 738 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 4: it had the same enthusiasm if I knew it. The 739 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 4: job was more than just about, you know, putting the 740 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 4: team together, the AUS and I feel like I'm actually 741 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 4: glad it's more than that as I sit here, you know, today, 742 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 4: at thirty six years old. But I don't know that 743 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 4: I actually would have had the same mindset at twenty 744 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 4: two twenty three, had known all the other things that 745 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 4: maybe aren't as public, fund you whatever that comes with 746 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 4: the role. But so so I guess the long answer 747 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 4: is yes, but partially because I probably didn't understand everything 748 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 4: that that the job encompasses. 749 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's that's fair. I think. You know. 750 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 3: The other thing is it's a huge accomplishment, you know, 751 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 3: to be seen as the youngest GM in NFL history, 752 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 3: but let alone African American. 753 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 2: And you know, you. 754 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 3: Talked about, you know, the decisions and choices that are 755 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 3: options you had as a child, right your mom wanted 756 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 3: you go one way, you want another, and you continue 757 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 3: kind of on that path and you went to Harvard, 758 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 3: which wasn't easy. And so as a you know, African 759 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 3: American GM who's played football, and you had a bump 760 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 3: in a row and you didn't make a team and roster, 761 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 3: but you still found you talked about how your passion 762 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 3: drew you back to the sport, but just in a 763 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 3: different way. And I think, you know, for a lot 764 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 3: of kids out here, you know, that's something that they 765 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 3: need to know more of and bring more exposure to. 766 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 3: Right about the other ways you can give to the 767 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 3: game rather than just being a player. 768 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head 769 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 4: rod that it's not like, hey, you know, playing or 770 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 4: bus and there are a number of ways you can 771 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 4: be in the game. And like I even think about 772 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 4: my own journey, I was fortunate that Tom Telesco had 773 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 4: gone on a scouting trip for me because I didn't know. 774 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 4: I didn't know anything about the path until he reached out, like, hey, 775 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 4: like we have this scouting assistant position of whom we 776 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 4: like to have you interview for. And then as I 777 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 4: got in my career and I saw guys like Jerry 778 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 4: Reese or Oz he knew some you know, win Super 779 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 4: Bowls and have you don't have success, and like that 780 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 4: was aspirational to me, and it's it's I guess right, 781 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 4: I thought about this, but it's kind of weird to 782 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 4: think about now because like I think about the esteem 783 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 4: I helped those guys in because of their position and 784 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 4: because honestly how they treated, how they treated people and 785 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 4: went about their work, you know. And I do think 786 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 4: that there's an element of exposure that you want young 787 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 4: people to have who may want to traverse a similar path. 788 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 1: You know. I think that's huge. You know, I literally 789 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: was talking to my dad about that the other day, Like, 790 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: you know, just seeing African American men in black communities 791 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: that do other things besides play football. You know, I 792 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: think I saw a heat player when I was back 793 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: in Miami, back home, he does like every Tuesday brings 794 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: like a different sporting job to the schools for the 795 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: kids to see. So it's agent, m coach, scouting, whatever 796 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: whatever it is, and have them speak to the kids 797 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: just so they see like there is other things and 798 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: you know, sports that you know that you know no doubt, 799 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: like that are valuable jobs, you know, like you bet 800 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 1: on yourself. Like that's huge. I mean kids need to 801 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: see that here that understand that, like you know, it 802 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 1: isn't end all be all when you you know, don't 803 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: make it, not like Rod when you undrafted you get 804 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: fifteen year career, Super Bowl, get paid um times like everybody, everybody, 805 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: everybody's not able, so they want to let you know 806 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: you special to b. 807 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you ever do you ever think about that, 808 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 3: like that moment and time where you felt that physical 809 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 3: Like how your life may have been different maybe if you. 810 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 2: If you pass the physical? Right would I do? 811 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 4: But like if I passed the physical, it probably wouldn't 812 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 4: have been a couple of days later where I've been been gone. 813 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: You know, I. 814 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 4: Don't know that I've been scouting long enough where I 815 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 4: can be I can be self aware. 816 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 2: What would you have love to put on? 817 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 3: Put on that redskins in the past now commander's uniform. 818 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: I got, I. 819 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 5: Gotta, I got a day to do that. 820 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 4: So like, yeah, everyone when you grow up playing football, 821 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 4: Like who doesn't dream about themselves being in the Super 822 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 4: Bowl or something like that from Pop Warner on that 823 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 4: was I was pretty realistic, Like I'm not I'm not 824 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 4: going to be the guy to sit here and tell 825 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 4: you was like, oh, man, like you know I would 826 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 4: have made a Pro Bowl or two if I didn't have. 827 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 2: A right, I wasn't that Did you think you would 828 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 2: be all American? 829 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: No? Crazy? 830 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 4: But I I I would bet my bottom dollar that 831 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 4: my future would not have changed in that in that moment. 832 00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, lighting it up with some questions. All right, we've 833 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: been serious for a minute, you know, all right, talk 834 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 1: about you some you can pop it off all these questions. 835 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 3: All right, So we have this one from Scarlet Wolf 836 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 3: underscore cet. 837 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 2: What's your biggest fear? 838 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: Hey, we got back here. That one was on. 839 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 4: My biggest fear is actually is heights, Like I don't. 840 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 4: I don't like heights, I don't like flying. I have 841 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:28,879 Speaker 4: a tough time with I know I'm in the wrong 842 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 4: profession or not. 843 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: Like I knew we was solid for a reason. I 844 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: got the same fear. 845 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 3: What's your I hate heights, I hate flying, playing, I 846 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 3: hate it? 847 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 2: So what do you do to commun What do y'all 848 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 2: do to com your nerves? 849 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: I sit next day. I make sure, like a comfort. 850 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,240 Speaker 2: Food something like that you need. 851 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: So what I do? 852 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 4: I try and I try and get to the point 853 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 4: where I'll fall asleep before take off. So if I 854 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 4: have to stay up a little bit later the night before, 855 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 4: I'll do that. I used to stay up so late 856 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 4: that I would get on the plane, I'd be like 857 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 4: paranoid and jumping the whole time. So I've got now 858 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 4: the middle ground of I fall asleep before takeoff. 859 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 3: So I'm assuming your vacations, like how how many hours 860 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 3: can you last? Like it's six year limit. We'll so 861 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 3: here's on the flight. You're not going to Asia. 862 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 4: If it was just me, it would be like an 863 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 4: hour an hour and a half. But unfortunately I told 864 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 4: you my wife and I were opposite loves flying. So 865 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 4: we like we've been the we've been the we've been 866 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 4: to Tanzania like so, but those are those are rough trusts? Yeah, 867 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 4: those rough trucks. 868 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 3: Hey, sacrifice though, right for the fam, happy wife, happy life. 869 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 2: Man, I don't travel, you got the next one walk? 870 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: So you're in GM, you know. Are you a Marvel guy? 871 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 4: I am not. 872 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: Okay, this would have been a great question. I am 873 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 1: not which Marvel you can answers? Marvel character would make 874 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: the best football player in what position? 875 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 4: Okay? So forgive me as Marvel is that like Superman 876 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 4: Spider Man. I mean it's gotta be Superman, right, Like, 877 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 4: it's not like you have Kryptonite on the field fast, 878 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 4: he's strong, like right, yeah, the Cape in case they 879 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 4: grabbed the crab, the grab the jersey. 880 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: On the what if he doesn't want to take off 881 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: the cape, then. 882 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 4: Be strong enough to front, we still take him. 883 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: That's right. 884 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 3: Uh, this one's from the real Gus McKay. 885 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 2: What's the moment when you realize someone was a. 886 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 4: Dog presenteem it's got to be present team. Okay, So 887 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 4: for me, it would actually be in twenty twenty, it 888 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 4: was you know, it was actually Nick when Nick he 889 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 4: had the knee spring. I remember at the time during 890 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 4: Dallas game, he gets hurt. You know, the docs think 891 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 4: it's like gonna be you know, five to six weeks, 892 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 4: and then I think Nick came back in three and 893 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 4: he wasn't you know, he like he's like he's got 894 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 4: like Wolverine's blood, like in terms of the way that 895 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 4: that he heals, and like he may have had like a 896 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,919 Speaker 4: hundred yard game and like, you know, eighteen characters thing, 897 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 4: but it's just like, you know, this guy, he's just 898 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,320 Speaker 4: like he's built different, he's wired different and everything. And 899 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,399 Speaker 4: I think obviously you guys we all know with him 900 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 4: for like, I think he really kind of embodies that character. 901 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: Definitely not a good choice. And I was happy he 902 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 1: missed that week before a game because y'all played that's right, 903 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: that's right. I love I found out he wasn't. We 904 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: got a shot. We gotta shot. Oh this is from 905 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: John t p sixteen. Which logo do you like the 906 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: most of the dog, the elf or the helmet? 907 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 4: Like the elf? Honestly, and I really do. I think 908 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 4: the el's cool. I think it's got a really cool history. 909 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 4: I know maybe people outside of think Cleveland think it's 910 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:08,280 Speaker 4: funky or whatever. 911 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm a fan. 912 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 2: I'm a dog of course. 913 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,359 Speaker 1: Nicest got you ever meet. 914 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 2: Until he's on. That's how I go. 915 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 3: Uh, let me see we have this last one right here. 916 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:29,240 Speaker 1: Uh. 917 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 3: Tallas underscore what separates Cleveland fans from all other fans 918 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 3: in the league. 919 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,320 Speaker 4: Passion and loyalty. 920 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 6: Mm hmm. 921 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 4: Like I think, to be honest, like the two most 922 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 4: passionate fan base I've seen, or Cleveland and Philly, Like 923 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 4: they're just like hardcore into the Browns like bleed orange. 924 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 4: And I think the loyalty because like kndidly, you know, 925 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 4: we've had a tough go since the franchise relocated, you know, 926 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 4: came back to came back to Cleveland, and how much 927 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 4: they stayed with the team through things and then like 928 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 4: you don't you don't have that everywhere. Yeah, and so 929 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 4: you know that's one of the reasons that I know, 930 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 4: all of us, you know, work to to make sure 931 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 4: that they can have a team that they're proud of 932 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 4: because our fans deserve it. That's not just like GM speak, 933 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 4: but it's the true, very very loyal and passion. 934 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:18,839 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've seen that. 935 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: You know. 936 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 2: I get to the stadium early and they. 937 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 3: Out there eight thirty game, I'm like, oh yeah early. 938 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 2: They bringing that noise every every Sunday. 939 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: Parade after on sixteen. That's that's loyalty. 940 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's real. 941 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 1: That's real. Shout out to the dog because the Dolphins 942 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: are from We ain't going to the game. We got 943 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: other things to do. 944 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 2: Cool the beach, Yeah, somebody yacht it's gone. 945 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 1: We're not going. We're going to the Hurricanes. That's it. 946 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 2: Something else you got, No, that's that's all the questions 947 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 2: we have. 948 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: We appreciate you coming on, spending your time, your busy schedule. 949 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 4: I appreciate you guys. Like I said, I'm happy to 950 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 4: do this for you guys. I appreciate you guys having 951 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 4: me on. 952 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 1: It's the real A B. Now, this is the real 953 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: A B. Hall of. 954 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 2: Haull of f. 955 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 6: All of Walter Payton was a warrior running with bees. 956 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 6: You rulies couldn't hope the waight up in one of 957 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 6: his creety as a creek through the zone. I am 958 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 6: known as a monster, the new Larry. 959 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,800 Speaker 2: Zarkaballa Hall going boxes. 960 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 6: Somebody needs the answer trying to stop Barry Sanders and 961 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 6: Sharks in the game. You Justice salamander, never had the 962 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,479 Speaker 6: boundary running through your town. Keep your head up and rush. 963 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 2: We looked like Jim Brown.