WEBVTT - Patriots Postgame Show 9/10: Takeaways from loss to Eagles, Tom Brady Halftime Ceremony 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:05.800 This episode of the Patriots Postgame Show is presented by DraftKings. 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:09.600 This is the Patriots Postgame Show. 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:13.480 First raft dive for the in So touchdown. 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:16.520 Patriot with Hardy, Mike de So and Paul Perrillo. 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:18.640 Hand off the Stevenson On's a left big hole across 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:20.720 the forty cuts left the forty. 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:22.840 Five as team rolls the defender there. 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:26.200 Join the conversation by calling the ACE Ticket hotline at 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:29.360 eight five five Pats five hundred, or email this show 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:31.640 at web radio at Patriots dot com. 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.680 I hope y'all keep that same energy for tonight. 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:40.000 Baby can't wait, live from our studios inside you Lett Stadium. 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:45.360 Here's Hardy Now. The Patriots dropped their regular season opener 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.200 at Chalted Stadium twenty five to twenty in a game 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:50.680 that looked like it was over a couple of times 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:53.280 in the fourth quarter, but it did come down to 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:57.160 the final moments. Welcome into this episode of the Patriots 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:00.800 Postgame Show, presented by Draft Kings, joined by Mike d 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:05.520 So and Paul Pirillo. Here shortly as the Patriots really 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:10.600 offensively could not get hardly anything going to start the game, 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:14.240 and then turned it on to the point where statistically, 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:17.080 they were in much better shape than the Eagles were, 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:21.720 and all kind of wrapped around this Tom Brady halftime 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.600 celebration that we'll get to on this postgame show also, 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.400 so you're welcome to join us here at eight five 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:33.560 five PATS five hundred, email, web radio at Patriots dot com. 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.040 We'll get to the good, the bad, and the injured 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.240 here as soon as Paul and Mike join us. But 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:40.959 I have to say from the jump, the first thing 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.720 that I'm thinking about and will continue to think about, 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:48.080 was the decision to go for it on fourth and three. 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:51.240 This is at a point in the game where the 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:54.400 Patriots trailed by eight points. It was twenty two fourteen. 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:58.000 There was a fourth and eighth play, fourth and eight play, 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.600 excuse me, where Hunter Henry made a great grab to 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:04.279 extend the drive. Then they got themselves into a fourth 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:08.520 and three situation after a bad third down call. It 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:11.840 was an Ezekiel Elliott run that went nowhere in the 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.399 middle where you knew you had issues with your offensive 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.440 line today. So that set up a fourth and three 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:20.320 call where a field goal would have put you within 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:23.919 five points, would have made the game twenty two to seventeen, 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.760 and would have made things more interesting down the stretch. Now, 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.560 I don't think Bill Belichick was thinking like it was 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:33.560 that or not. He shouldn't have had the feeling that 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:37.800 he had to get the touchdown there, because the defense 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.440 played well enough to where I think you could have 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:44.000 relied on them to get a stop going the other way, 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.680 and instead they decided to go for it. They turned 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.600 the ball over on downs and the Patriots made some 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.320 valiant efforts to recover down the stretch. I mean, if 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:56.960 you thought this game was over after that, after that 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:00.280 play call, which sure many people did, I think thought 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:05.080 it was shame on me for not thinking that, you know, 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:11.080 the Patriots could somehow rebound, But at that point it 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.280 just seemed like it was. It was the type of 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:17.960 decision that could have really spelled doom. Now, the Eagles 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:20.560 did go down score a field goal, and they were 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:24.560 up eleven. It was twenty five to fourteen. What could 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:27.880 possibly happen after that? Well, I'll tell you. The Patriots 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.520 went on a sixth place, seventy five yard touchdown drive. 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:35.200 They went for two, they did not convert, looked like 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:38.120 they did. They was called back try again, did not convert. 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:42.200 That made it twenty five to twenty. The Eagles actually 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.680 ended up turning the ball over on downs again. This 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:46.640 is another point where you thought the game was over, 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.400 get the two minute warning, Eagles turned the ball over 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:54.200 on downs. Patriots drive down managed to make it a 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:56.880 ballgame once again, and at the end of the game, 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.920 a couple of curious decisions once again, most notably Juju 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:06.240 Smith Schuster on the sideline watching Booty once again unable 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:11.640 to get the second foot down and finished the completion 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.400 that would have at the very least given the Patriots 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.400 a first down and a couple of shots at the 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.279 end zone as time expired in this game. So twenty 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:21.839 five to twenty your final here from Gillette Stadium tonight. 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:24.960 There is a lot of good to take away from 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:29.159 this game. It is very much unlike a lot of 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:32.400 the games that we talked about last season, where even 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.159 in some of the wins, we were hard pressed to 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.239 come up with a lot of things on the good list. 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.080 And there were bad moments too. There was a bad 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:44.800 start to the game with an offside call on a 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:49.920 fumbled snap that Jalen Hurts either didn't get a hold 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:51.640 of or it was a bad snap to begin with. 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:54.200 That could have been a big momentum swing right at 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.920 the very beginning of the game instead, and offside call 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:01.120 in the gated that. There was some really really questionable 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:05.040 mac Jones plays early in the game, which eventually, after 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.200 watching the conditions get better in the rain stop, I 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:11.159 think we could chalk up to just a wet football. 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:13.960 He was sailing the ball a little bit high over 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.719 the heads of receivers and out of the hands receivers. 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:18.960 One of them resulted in a pick six. But there 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:21.520 were back to back plays high throws from mac Jones 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:24.440 where he just hoped it wasn't going to be like 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.400 that all night. The fact is it wasn't like that 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:29.880 all night, and the box score will tell you so. 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.680 Just looking at the numbers. Mac Jones thirty five of 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.440 fifty four pass attempts. Now he threw the ball a 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:41.080 lot tonight, but three hundred and sixteen yards and three 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:45.919 touchdown passes Jalen Hurts for his night. And this number 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:48.440 I didn't even think is really accurate in terms of 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.839 how the game looked and how it played out. Twenty 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.920 two of thirty three for one hundred and seventy yards 0:05:55.480 --> 0:06:01.400 rushing wise, the Eagles put up ninety seven yards. There 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.320 was a point early in the fourth quarter where he 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.719 looked up and said, wait a second, the Eagles have 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:09.000 less than two hundred yards. They had about one hundred 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.159 passing yards in about eighty five rushing yards, and they're like, 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.120 how are they winning this game? What's going on? Well, 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:17.839 they had some short fields to deal with, and they 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:22.320 had some efficient play early on that got away from them, 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.200 but they had built up enough of a lead. And 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.560 again I have to say some of the decision making 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.080 down the stretch, the decision to go for it on 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.039 fourth and three instead of taking the field goal, and 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.680 personnel decisions. I'm not sure why Juju Smith Schuster was 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:42.280 on the sideline watching at the end and watching Booty 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:46.520 unable to get the second foot down. I know he 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:48.719 had done it earlier in training camp. People were talking 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:50.640 about it online that you know that was a play 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:52.520 he made a lot during camp, but earlier in this 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:57.400 game he had a similar situation. So all of this 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.719 to say, the Patriots had chances, more chances than I 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.960 thought they would late in the fourth quarter, in fact, 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.840 two more chances after that, still come away with a 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:11.600 twenty five to twenty loss. This is the type of 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.440 game where you look at it and have to say 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.440 to yourself, all right, this could have easily been a 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.920 blowout had things gone the other way. I think for 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:25.080 Jalen Hurts, he was not particularly effective early on the 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:30.080 Patriots defense, specifically in the secondary was doing some great job. 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.600 I was doing a great job of covering downfield and 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:37.680 not allowing Hurts to make plays. He for some reason 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:41.680 seemed hesitant to pick up some yards on his own 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:46.440 at times. He ended up carrying the ball nine times 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:51.280 for thirty seven yards tonight, And I think Jalen Hurts, 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.480 had he played better, this game would have been over 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.920 a lot earlier in terms of how you think things 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:01.520 were going to go. But from a first quarter sixteen nothing, 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:05.840 Philadelphia lead to have multiple chances to win that game. 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:09.120 At the end, You've got to give props to the 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.160 to the Patriots for some of their resilience and the 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.440 ability for Mac Jones specifically to turn his night around 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:19.080 after a very very shaky start, not just for Mac 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.000 but for the offense in general. Mike Deusseau and Paul 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:26.040 Parrilla joining us now as the This episode of the 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:31.720 Patriots Post Game presented by DraftKings is rolling along here, deuce. 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:32.880 Sorry, halfway done right? 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.520 I thought that game was over three times, so did I. 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.640 That is that? That is some kind of finish And 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:40.920 it's the It's the type of game if you if 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:43.480 you go away or in my case, I've got a 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.760 little bit of a walk as you guys do, to 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:50.080 get down here, missed two pivotal plays. I had to 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.319 go back and find and watch them again. I'm like, what, 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:55.680 what what? What happened? There was a there was a touchdown, 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:57.839 there was a there was a failed two point conversion. Oh, 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:00.240 they got a chance of the two point conversion. 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:00.640 Yeah. 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:03.000 I just ran into Christian Fourier out there, who was 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.520 busy running around doing stuff. He said, I said something 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:08.760 about the fourth and three call. He said, what fourth 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:10.360 and three call? I said, they went for it on 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.160 fourth and three when a field goal would have made 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.440 a yeah, a five point game, And he's like, I 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.400 didn't even see it. I'm like, I know if you 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.360 if you walked away, if you blinked in the fourth quarter, 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.920 you missed three or four pivotal moments in that game. 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:28.440 The sad thing is the result almost exactly the same 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.760 as it would have been going back to the first 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:31.719 of those decisions. 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.520 Yeah, it's uh, you know, I mean first it's like 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.680 I'm trying to write something, so it's like, you know, 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.040 going back and forth. But you know, I give I look, 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:40.360 I give them a lot of credit. Like I think 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:42.719 when when they went down sixteen to nothing, it was. 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.880 Like, oh my god, this is going to be bad today. 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:48.000 You know, it's just the pick six right off the bat, 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.559 the fumble. I mean, it was just it was ugly. 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.240 But you know, I think they showed some resiliency, and 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.960 you know, I was I was impressed with certain elements 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.440 on both sides of the ball. You know, I still 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:00.559 think they need to figure out how to start games 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:04.160 better and to clearly finish games better. But I saw 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.040 some signs of life today that I don't think I 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:07.640 saw at all from that team last year. 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.520 I mean, there were three three and outs at midfield. 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:14.240 They were given short fields to work with and back 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.160 to back three and outs. There was another one not 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.680 long after that. I think that maybe have bled into 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:23.000 the second quarter. But you're like, okay, well, you know, offensively, 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.160 this isn't just going to be going you know, working tonight. 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.840 At that point, you're hoping it's sixteen nothing, that the 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:30.640 defense is just going to be able to stop the 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.959 bleeding enough to where it doesn't get embarrassing. And quite frankly, 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.800 they turned it around in the first half. Yeah, it was. 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.920 It was the Patriots had the momentum going into the 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:41.360 locker room knowing that we're going to get in the 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:44.800 beginning the ball to start the second half. And again, 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.760 I don't think we're going to dwell on this a 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.520 whole lot, but half of this day was about Tom 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.960 Brady and the feeling that it kind of gave the 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.840 crowd as they went into the locker room at halftime. 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.199 I think I think the mood of that whole halftime 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.640 celebration chain because instead of going down sixteen nothing, oh 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:05.520 it's sixteen fourteen, and they're actually showing you a little 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.200 something here. Now we can have this nice moment and 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.040 see what happens in the second half. And they gave 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.679 us a ball game. They absolutely gave us a ball. 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.800 I tell you, Hardy with Brady in the house, you know, 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:18.360 with the Peppers turnover and then the fourth down stop, 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.360 I mean, they got two opportunities. I thought, I for 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.240 I'm like, they're gonna win this game like it's just 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.680 it's it seemed like it was all lining up for 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.120 it to happen. And you'll clearly they haven't taken that 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.600 that step yet. But but some nice games today from 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:32.960 a number of guys. Disappointing to lose, and certainly some 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.920 elements to talk about, but but I come away with 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:37.760 with some positive things. It's not gonna matter much next 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:39.400 week against Miami. They're gonna need to get a win 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.880 in that game. But but but I like a lot 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:43.480 of what I saw today and a lot of like 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.440 I said, we didn't see those those that kind of fight, 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.320 that kind of ability to bounce back last year. They 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.160 just got to figure out how to get over the hump. 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.520 Paul, your initial thoughts, I know there's a lot that 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.760 happened in the last lot, in the last time, I'm 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:57.400 going to say last half, fourth quarter. 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.719 Everybody that listens to this show knows me, because I 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:01.200 don't know if you know, but I might have mentioned 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:02.839 it in the pregame show. I've been here about twenty 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:04.760 four years, even though no one knows how to spell 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:08.440 my name. I'm not big into moral victories. I'm not 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:10.920 big into and I'm not calling this a moral victory 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.719 or anything like that. We were talking a lot down 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:15.880 the stretch of this game, and it's like, we've seen 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.280 this before, we've seen this before, and I was sort 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:21.400 of like the Lone Voice and the Wilderness. I haven't 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:26.120 seen this before. And I'm talking about the post Brady Erakay, okay, 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:30.080 I haven't seen the post Brady Patriots play against what 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:33.240 I considered to be a really good team and not 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:36.559 need anything fluky to go toe to toe with them. 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.680 They all played Philadelphia for the vast majority of that game. 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:41.679 And I'm not telling you that that's where, like Mike 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.400 said it perfectly, that's on tomorrow. You're gonna wake up. 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:49.200 It's gonna say zero in one. Okay, that's what you get, right. 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.800 But there are a lot of things that I looked 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.920 at this game, and I said, they moved the ball 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.120 better than they did for the most part last year. 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.480 They still have some problems finishish drives. They still have 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:06.640 some problems with some penalties in opportunity times. But defensively, 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:09.400 you're down sixteen nothing, you forced four straight three and outs. 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.800 When the game's over, if you get up another scoring drive, Yep, 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.720 this was not a fluke. This was not a fluke. 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:15.880 Now. 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.480 I'm sure people in Philadelphia say, ah, you know they 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:20.760 they jumped out to the lead, it's rained. You know, 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:24.199 they took the foot off to get bull bull. I 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.760 think this was different than what I've seen from the 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.640 Patriots and the post Brady era. I'm not again, I 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.360 don't want to come off as polyanniish like this is. 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.240 Oh look at these Patriots dot com guys talking about, 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:37.679 you know, all the great things. I thought the Patriots 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.800 showed a lot of toughness today, and I thought they 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.280 played well for the most part. It wasn't perfect. It 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.680 was a week one game, but I thought they played 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.080 pretty well, and I wasn't expecting. I thought if they 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:48.960 were going to win the game, they were gonna need 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:50.640 a lot of help from Philadelphia. They didn't get a 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.000 lot of help from Philadelphia to be to be in 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:53.439 the game. 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.000 All right, let's let's get to our good, the bad, 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.400 and the injured. Here we go. Now it's time for 0:13:58.440 --> 0:13:58.760 the good. 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:04.280 Pretty good, they pretty good, The bad. 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:06.240 And the injured. 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:13.520 Ah ah, you are right, guy, Good, the bad, me 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:15.080 and jured brought to you by the good players, the 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:17.360 bad players, and the injured players. 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:21.720 Tonight as the Patriots lose to the Eagles here at 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.680 your let's stadium in twenty five twenty. I don't know 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:26.200 how you want to do this, how you want to go. 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.320 If you want to go just in what's top of 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:32.040 your head chronologically deuce, Yeah, just go for it, you first, 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.760 good Mac mac Jones, here you go, kid. 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:36.720 You know, I just I just caught a highlight on 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:38.120 one of the other shows. But I'm sure we're going 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:39.400 to show it here in a second with the Kendrick 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.760 Borne touchdown. But uh, you know, the first pick obviously 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.040 off his hand, high throw. I think the first couple 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:46.800 of throws were high, and I think he can doc 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:48.880 Mack a little bit for that, but otherwise some of 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:50.640 those throws we've seen. It just it just made me 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:52.840 remember all the things we were mad at him about 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.200 last year that they couldn't do, you know, finishing drives 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.520 with touchdowns, throwing into the end zone in the red zone. 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.040 You know, he did those things. You know it It 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:01.200 wasn't perfect. 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.600 But I came away from this game, you know, just 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:07.400 kind of reinvigorated about mac Jones and his and his 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.200 potential within this offense. I think, you know, he showed 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.440 a lot today, a lot of toughness. I mean that 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:14.400 we talked all week about the defensive front. We know 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:16.920 what he was dealing with with his offensive line. I mean, 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.880 you know, that's another another conversation, but one sack. I mean, 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.440 I think Mac deserves some credit getting the offense in 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:24.800 the right plays. It wasn't all perfect, but I think 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.440 the Patriots were in this game in large part because 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.760 some of the big throws that Mac Jones played today. 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.160 So I tip my hap to him, you know. 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.440 Unfortunately it came in a losing effort, but a real 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.280 nice game from Mac Jones, one of the best that 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:37.840 I can remember in recent memory. 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:39.120 Unfortunately in a losing effort. 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.600 Though, Boss man Fred Kirsch joining us, Now, do you 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.920 have any initial thoughts before we get further into the 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.440 good list, For I want to give you every opportunity 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:51.560 to speak. It's important to me to hear your thoughts. Well. 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:54.920 No, I mean, he's not the best, and I think 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.560 there's a lot to build on. I think there's signs 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:03.160 of hope for the offense. For sure, they're not quite 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.720 there yet. I mean, you can't play thirty minutes of football, 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:09.760 you got to play sixty minutes. But I think, you know, 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:15.000 there were there were plays there that Mac made. I 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.400 think the O line for what you know, how it's 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:22.440 constituted pass protected pretty well throughout except toward the end. 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.280 But throughout the game they did pretty well. Not a 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:29.400 lot of room to run though, you know. But going 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:31.080 in we thought it was going to be a disaster 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.720 with the old line, and it wasn't. It wasn't Mac 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:36.600 had Mac had time for the most part. So I 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:38.760 mean there's hope there. You get in, when you back, 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.520 you get strange back and maybe they get even a 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.600 little better. So I think there's hope there for the offense. 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.720 I think the d D played really well, you know, 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.720 for them, so and I think they're just going to 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:51.920 get better, all right. 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:55.640 Paul, your first good is it defense related by any chance? 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.760 No, my first good will be something Fred just touched 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:01.760 on pass protection and it listen, it was all game 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.600 plan related. They got the ball out of Mac Jones's hands, 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:07.920 you know, enlightening quick for the most part. They only 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:11.239 tried two or three balls downfield the entire game, and 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:12.879 that was I think by design, because they knew they 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.320 wouldn't hold up. And Fred, you said that it you 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.480 know maybe toward the end. Well, that's the difference is 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:19.119 you have to get desperate and you have to make 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.199 plays on fourth to twelve, stuff like that. But I 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:25.280 thought the pass protection was not an issue in this game. 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:29.200 I've been really critical of those who want to give 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.680 the out to the offense because of the offensive line 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.199 before even seeing the games. That's what Fred and I 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.080 have been talking about. Can we see the game and 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.479 see how it unfolds before we say that's why they 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:41.960 only scored twenty points. The offensive line wasn't why they 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:44.439 only scored twenty points. Today, don't pin this on the 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:47.760 pass protection. You had two rookies making their their starts 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:51.360 at Tonio Mafi in City, so it wasn't perfect yet. 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:53.960 Some penalties in there and some pressures given up, But 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:56.520 you threw the ball fifty four times and it was 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:58.560 not a train wreck. 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:00.440 They didn't have a sack until the to the game. 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.680 Yeah, But I mean there was pressure, you know at times, 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.520 but it wasn't like it wasn't like he was under siege. 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.760 They didn't score because they couldn't execute often enough to 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:11.520 finish the drives. And it wasn't on the offensive line. 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.159 I think just to complement your point as it, you know, 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:14.879 a couple of times when they did have some traffic 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:16.560 around Mac, I thought Mac did a good job of, 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.320 you know, staying focused, staying downfield. He wasn't bailing, he 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.280 wasn't you know, sometimes just taking sacks like he like 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:23.160 he would last year. 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:25.720 So I think it's all tied together. But yeah, I agree, 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:26.200 nice job. 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.879 Yeah, And and as good as the defense played tonight, 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.639 my first good there were there were two series in 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:32.040 a row. 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:33.800 Which focus on the Titans. Now you know that right. 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:36.400 Oh and by the way, it went five for five 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:36.639 to that. 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:38.080 Sorry I had to throw that in. 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.920 I just kidding, don't still baits basking in the Lions went. 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:43.160 I am a little bit a little bit, a little 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:46.000 bit as ugly as that was, they were back to 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.280 back series for the offense. Toward the end of the 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:54.879 second quarter there with you know, spreading the ball around Giseki, Juju, Smith, Schuster, 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:58.680 Douglas Montgomery there, they all had receptions there, uh, the 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:02.280 Hunter Henry touchdown that made it sixteen seven. You're like, okay, 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.439 this isn't going to be a complete embarrassment blowout. And 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:08.320 then another good series they culminated with a Borne touchdown 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:11.159 to make it sixteen fourteen changed the entire tone of 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.800 the game. The momentum swung back a little bit toward 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:17.639 the Patriots favor, changed the whole mood of that halftime celebration. 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:20.280 I thought those two series alone, for as bad as 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:23.239 the offense started, which we'll get to when we get 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:25.520 to the batt list, I'm sure they deserve a lot 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:27.879 of credit because that's when the battling back started and 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:30.719 that's when you realized, oh, there is something here, and 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:33.520 it just it. It didn't show up in the first quarter, 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:35.959 but there was there's something going on with this offense 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:39.080 that works. Yep. So all right, I like shoot it around. 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:41.720 What else we got KB two touchdowns? 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:44.280 Yeah, you know, I think all summer long we said 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.480 he had a real good year. He seemed like he was, 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:50.399 you know, reinvigorated by you know, just last year. He 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:51.919 didn't feel like it a great year. Came in in 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:54.920 great shape, was productive in training camp. You know, had 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:58.239 some tough catches today, some real nice catching runs. So 0:19:58.280 --> 0:19:59.880 it's you know, kind of coming to fruition a little. 0:19:59.840 --> 0:20:01.639 I know, people, you know, last year was kind of 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:04.000 somewhat of a joke, like you know, banging the KB drum. 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:06.800 And but I think tonight he showed you know how 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:08.240 we can how can you how we can get involved. 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:10.200 You see that touchdown catch there? Thought Mac put him 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:11.439 put it right on him. 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:11.960 Uh. 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:14.600 And so hopefully we can continue to see more from Bourne. 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:15.840 They needed him today and he came through. 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:17.919 So we've got we've got a binky race going on. 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:21.239 Who's going to become Mac Jones is binky And right 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:25.080 now it's a three way race between Borne, Stevenson and 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:27.840 Hunter Henry. Those those are the three. 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.440 I think it's born. Eleven targets, Yeah, spoke double with 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:31.840 anybody else. I think it's born. 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:33.000 Yeah. 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:36.440 That that Hunter Henry catch though on the fourth and eighth. 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:39.800 Great catch that we're gonna get to that later. That's 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:45.000 that's yep. Yeah. I mean what you know, I was 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:48.080 gonna mention Bourne as well. I like the fact that, 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:50.920 you know, Douglas showed up. I you know, people thought 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:54.760 I read think Douglas. You know, uh, Patri's gonna look 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:56.800 for Douglas to have a big game. Well that would 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.840 be ridiculous. You know, his first NFL game. You know 0:20:59.920 --> 0:21:03.879 you're relying on him to have a big game. I 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:06.160 was just hoping that he showed up a couple of times. 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:09.720 And he did so I was I thought he was excellent. 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:11.720 Yeah, I was very pleased with what he did. 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:16.159 You know, he looked like he might have not been 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:17.800 where he was supposed to be a couple of times, 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.320 like and again, third year quarterback, when the throw goes 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:23.959 in the direction of a guy and it's nowhere near 0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:25.960 where the guy, I'm going to put that on the receiver. 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:29.960 But I agree with Fred. Seven catches, I mean, I'm sorry, 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:33.800 seven targets, four catches for forty yards didn't look out 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:35.960 of place at all. Yeah, I thought it was a 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:36.720 solid debut. 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:38.800 So, you know, just overall again, I you know, I 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:40.640 don't want to just keep repeating myself, but I think 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:42.600 there's a lot to build on from the offense. You 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:45.920 can see that they they might have an offense here, yep, 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:49.520 and it might like you know, that first time early 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.359 in the first half, that first drive they had, they 0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:54.680 were mixing it up really well. You know, you could 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:58.239 see the effects of Bill O'Brien clearly in how they 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:00.399 were calling plays, the type of plays they were calling. 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.240 They were keeping you know, the Eagles on their heels 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:06.520 by the variety, and they were executing for the most part. 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:09.280 You know, they had those you know, the first half 0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:12.240 was mistake ridden. That that was what was their downfall. 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:14.440 Yeah, is the striking to me just looking at the 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:16.159 targets comparing to the two teams. I mean, we know 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:18.280 Brown and Smith are the main two guys. You know, 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:20.280 both of them had ten targets, but after that it's 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:22.640 nobody game. Well had four and then it's like two 0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:24.840 to one two one, you know, the Patriots have I 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:27.119 mean seven seven, seven, six, six, eleven. 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:30.240 I mean, that's a difference to four times as supposed 0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:30.880 to be thirty three. 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:34.760 But but just showing that they're they're not locked into 0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:36.879 you know, it's it's the ability to get to what 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:37.480 you have. 0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:40.560 I mean, right now, I'd rather have the ability to move. 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:43.959 I mean, I'll take Brown and Smith absolutely. I mean, 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:46.840 we can save that for Tuesday and we'll get into that. 0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:48.560 That's right. I get what you're saying. 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:50.640 I'm just my point is that it's not like Mac 0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:52.440 has three guys to throw two and he doesn't know 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:53.760 what the hell else to do with the ball. He 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.560 feels comfortable throwing all these guys, And for me, this 0:22:56.680 --> 0:22:58.680 is an offense that was completely torn down to the 0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:02.000 studs last year, and they don't know who they are 0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:03.800 they get out there tonight. I mean, I think that 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:06.240 there as much as we are being like what are 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:07.040 we gonna expect tonight? 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:07.720 Who are we? 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:09.760 And I think that they can take what they can't 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:12.000 what they did tonight and start to build on that 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:14.520 and get to the team that can score a touchdown time. 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:14.680 I do. 0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:17.360 And I think there was fight in the team. I think, 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:19.800 you know, I think the Eagles played a little safe 0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:22.480 at the end there, but I think that I think 0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:25.560 there was I don't think they went for no I 0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:28.439 know that I'm talking about the calls that they played. 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:32.240 You know, yeah, the play calling was a little bit safe, 0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:35.200 but I think you know, the big hit by. 0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:37.439 Peppers, you know, that was like don't talk about him. 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:39.439 I mean that was but that was like the Braidy 0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:42.159 the Brady like game that you need that play by 0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:44.240 the defense. They come up with it and then the 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:46.960 Patriots go down and take advantage of it. That they 0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:49.879 just didn't finish it, but it was right there for 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:52.600 the taking. It was right there. And I know we'll 0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:54.960 hear Bill a little later. He was second guest on 0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:56.320 not going for those three. 0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:59.960 It's just like when one fell swooped like it absolutely 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:02.959 all right, all right, stick, we'll stick to the good. 0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:04.000 Oh I still have a. 0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:04.400 Lot of good. 0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:05.360 I got a lot of good. 0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:09.720 Yeah, Fred's not going to kill my bus. You talked 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:11.960 about the defense a little bit, right, and the offense 0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:14.720 started off good like that when they're down sixteen to 0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:18.080 nothing and to force I believe four three and outs 0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:22.200 in a row. The run fits like improved right away. 0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:26.040 I thought they had a little pressure defensively early on 0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:31.200 good coverage. I thought the coverage was tight. I just 0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:35.159 thought this was the kind of game. Everybody says, this 0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:37.639 is the defense they have, and every time I see 0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:39.560 them play against a good offense, I don't see that 0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:42.040 defense today. I saw the defense that people talk about. 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:44.800 I mean, I know that the twenty five is going 0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:47.160 to be up on that board, and you know, thirteen 0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:49.000 of them really, I mean, you know, I would say 0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:53.200 maybe ten of them, you know, probably weren't because I 0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:54.840 mean you are allowed to stop him from getting a 0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:59.000 touchdown after you fumble down there. But six of them anyway, yeah, 0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:01.320 I mean seven, you know, seven goes on the board 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:03.560 on the pick six, and then they get another six, 0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:07.359 you know, on the fumble. But I thought, overall, the 0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:09.600 defense did a really good job today and kept the 0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:13.000 team in the game under really tough circumstances. So I'm 0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.399 just going widespread. I'll let Mike talk about his BANKI 0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:19.320 and I would say key On White I thought was 0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:23.199 a presence through everything early in the game. So yeah, well, 0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:25.800 I just defensively in general, I thought this was the 0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:27.399 kind of game people keep telling me, this is the 0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:28.920 kind of defense they have today. 0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:30.600 I started for the first time, and I was sitting 0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:32.080 up there, you know, with Evan and I think we 0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.360 were all kind of expecting last year, which was that, Yeah, 0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:35.840 the defense played great in the middle of the game, 0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:37.280 but here it is, we're coming down to the end. 0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:39.280 They're not going to get that last stop that they need. 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:39.399 That. 0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:41.199 I mean, that's where my head was at. And then 0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:44.000 Peppers forced the fumble. They get the fourth down stop 0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:45.040 you know in the midfield. 0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:46.320 I know they had some help, but. 0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:50.080 Still right about them even the fumble, Like you need 0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:53.119 to stop what happened. First play, rips it up the 0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:55.200 middle for the eight yards and now Peppers knocks the 0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:57.320 ball out. Yeah, they were easily going to get a 0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:02.879 drive started there. But yeah, gave by Peppers like that 0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:04.080 deserves its own. 0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:06.040 Let's just put him on the good right now, Peppers, 0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:08.080 I'll do it. I'm just gonna jump the gun. But 0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:10.680 you know, not only that hit, but also the plane 0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:15.640 coverage where he got over Frank mccordy like and he's right, yeah, 0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:17.560 so I thought he, I mean god, he must have 0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:18.480 played close to every snap. 0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:20.000 I thought Peppers was out there the whole time. But 0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:22.200 but active and well, that's a better look. I didn't 0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:23.600 get that good of a look at it. Thanks, guys. 0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:27.640 That's at those guys played well today under a first circumstances. 0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:30.440 Once again, our TD is on top of it always. 0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:35.480 No, it's just and I apologize because I was looking 0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:37.040 something up. I don't know if you guys mentioned it. 0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:39.680 There was a Peppers he jammed somebody off the line. 0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:46.600 It was was Golbert or Goddard. Excuse me that he 0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:49.239 looked like he cracked him in the ribs. He kind 0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:51.720 of got like a shoulder up underneath him, kind of 0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:52.239 spun him. 0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:53.199 Did you that would check out? 0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:53.919 I didn't see that one. 0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:58.119 He definitely would check out, did you guys gave him 0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:01.359 a little one too. I love it the body. 0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:03.800 He just spun them it and you could tell that 0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:07.159 he wasn't expecting it and and and it really threw 0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:08.760 him off. Now he ended up do them. 0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:11.800 Yeah, he didn't have it, and Goddard was Goddard had 0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:13.240 only targeted once the whole game. 0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:15.560 Yeah, and he didn't have He didn't have any receptions tonight. 0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.600 But and I was a lot I think he but 0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:20.800 I think he was. I think he sat out like 0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:23.320 two plays after that. I'm like, look at your brail 0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:23.760 out there. 0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:25.920 There was like doing some damage. There was like two 0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:28.000 plays in a row, and Mike goes, oh god, it's 0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:28.760 all I know. 0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:30.800 That's something I gotta look at because I'm not sure. 0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:32.880 I think the Eagles are killing themselves with a couple 0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:33.639 of those plays, because it. 0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:35.920 Just seemed like he was kind of like it was shocked. 0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:37.840 But I think the Patriots made them look that way, 0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:41.159 like unlike Cincinnati, you know, as an example of a 0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:43.040 game that was kind of like this, they could have 0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.879 stolen it at the end and then they fumbled, but 0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:49.479 Cincinnati like dominated the game. The Patriots, I thought, all 0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:50.520 played Philadelphia today. 0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.560 Yeah, before we get to your next good, just like, yeah, 0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:57.880 an overall defensive good. I was expecting Hurts to kind 0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:03.680 of have almost almost like a like we saw the 0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.119 other night from Kansas City. I thought if he had 0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:08.320 a Mahomes like night where he wasn't that good, but 0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:11.480 Mahomes would get loose and you know, pick up, you know, 0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:15.280 there's ten twelve yards, just kind of like I thought, Yeah, 0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.159 that's what Hurts is going to do tonight. It may 0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.639 not be that flashy because he's not Patrick Mahomes when 0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:21.520 he's out and it looked like he wasn't interested in 0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:24.040 running today, he's really well, you know what, I don't know, 0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:26.360 it's him. I don't know that he had a lot 0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:29.720 of opportunity to do it. And number one, the downfield 0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:33.640 coverage was pretty good, but it sticky, and I think 0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:36.920 they also managed to clog up some areas underneath where 0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:39.760 if Hurts was thinking about running and doing that kind 0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.280 of like Mahomes act like we saw the other night 0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:45.480 against the Lions, which obviously didn't work out for him, 0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.920 but he did get his yards. Hurts didn't get anythington 0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:50.120 I would have thirty six yards thirty. 0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:53.960 Six rushing nine Yeah, but hep he kept sliding like 0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:55.280 on designed runs. 0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:57.480 I don't think he wanted much to do with the 0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:01.600 Patriots defense tonight. And and again, credit to the downfield coverage, 0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:05.000 you know, that's first and foremost when he got his 0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:06.000 receivers to deal with. 0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.080 But there was one play, there was a third and 0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:12.480 three late where he scrambled like you're talking about Hardy, yeah, 0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:15.760 and he realized, I gotta I gotta put my shoulder 0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:17.400 down and I got to get the first down and 0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:19.560 he did, and he ended up getting like six yards 0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:22.000 on third and three. Other than that, every time he 0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:26.200 it's I think it's probably something they've really talked about 0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:28.440 all off season. He got hurt running the ball league 0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:29.000 last season. 0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:30.360 Don't take a necessary shot. 0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:31.320 Maybe that's it. 0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:33.800 Maybe like a live runner, I would say four or 0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:36.560 five times today and just gave up the play when 0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:37.560 there were more yards. 0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:37.800 To be gained. 0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:40.760 Noye couple. Yeah, they weren't gonna be big plays, but 0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:42.880 it was a concerted effort. I'm not taking a hit 0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:44.760 here if I don't need to, Okay, So maybe I'm 0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:47.320 giving credit word No, I'm giving credit to the Patriots defense. 0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:49.560 I agree with you. I think they and you know, 0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:51.600 and you talking about the difference between a three yard 0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:53.560 gain and a five yard game, not the difference between 0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:54.880 a twenty yard game that they slid on. 0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:56.920 We all saw the numbers at the start of the 0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.960 fourth quarter. I think they had ninety some passing yard 0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:04.680 in another ninety rushing yards. Like they've moved the ball. 0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:08.160 Listen, the defense gave up eighteen points today, I'll take it. 0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:08.560 Yeah. 0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:10.560 I mean we had two hundred and fifty yards of offense. 0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:10.880 Yeah. 0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:13.200 Yeah, And now I know that that's a little deceptive 0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:14.840 because you had a seventy yard pick six that you 0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:16.720 don't get the possession of it. Two hundred and fifty 0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.160 yards is really good defense, really good defense. 0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:20.479 It is all right, dude, what do you got? 0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:21.200 Gone's out? 0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:23.320 Yeah, great, one out? 0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:24.520 Uh yeah. 0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:26.840 Just he was he was really good tonight. I think 0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:28.640 as a big part of the past defense. I mean 0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:31.800 I just, uh, I'm kind of surprised, to be honest, 0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:33.959 I wasn't, you know, kind of expecting him to. I mean, 0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.560 he's just he's we were concerned about his physicality, and 0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:38.760 I just think he's continuing to kind of show up 0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:39.800 and you know, getting. 0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:41.720 His nose in there. It's he's not an overpowering guy. 0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.520 But I think he just showed his athleticism that that 0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:46.960 pass defense he had there, uh near the end of 0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:48.200 the game was was a big play. 0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:51.360 So yeah, self, as Sackat had, I had him on 0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:53.360 the list for the for the past defense with the 0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:56.160 game on the line. I'd be curious to see what 0:30:57.160 --> 0:31:04.080 the experts twos have him graded. Because Mike mentioned the 0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:05.960 two guys, I mean they both cut seven out of 0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:09.360 the ten balls thrown to them. So and I don't 0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:11.240 know how great I mean, especially Brown, he was what 0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:12.480 I thought was a problem he was. 0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:14.760 He was a little soft in his coverage. I mean, 0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:18.360 I think he's got good makeup speed, but the makeup 0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.160 speed that you had in college you need a little 0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:23.280 bit more in the NFL. These guys are faster than 0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:25.560 who you covered in college. And I think he saw that. 0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:28.520 I think he's learning every game. But the play, I'm good. 0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:29.280 I'm good with him. 0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:32.920 Fourth and two, that's just a great play diving to 0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:35.680 to break up that pass intended for Devonte Smith. 0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:37.440 And that was a good throw too, that was right 0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:38.040 on target. 0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:38.920 Uh. 0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:41.520 In the games online, you give up that completion, game's over. 0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:44.440 You know, you don't get even get that last gas chance. 0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:47.800 So yeah, I agree with Mike. Gonzo was was strongly 0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:48.600 on my good list. 0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:50.360 Kind of crazy they blitzed him out of the slot though, 0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:51.720 Like even that just feels. 0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:54.720 Like if we get this kind of a setup and 0:31:54.800 --> 0:32:01.920 they go there split Ye, I don't know, he's active, Yeah, 0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:02.640 he was active. 0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:07.520 Fred any other goods just watching Gonzo on the screen. 0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:10.640 Paul, Okay, Well, I think we're at the point where 0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:13.960 we just sort of wrap him up, right. Sure, I 0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:17.760 thought two big returns. You had a big kickoff return 0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:22.160 for Time Montgomery forty forty three yards forty something yards, 0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:24.800 and then a big one for Marcus Jones. Now it 0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:28.560 went downhill after that. Special teams wise, but I thought 0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:31.680 though they gave him a lift. Unfortunately, the offense was 0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:34.400 really bad for the first quarter and a half and 0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:35.520 they didn't get anything out of it. 0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:37.360 What's Montgomery's numbers? 0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:38.720 Montgomery? 0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:42.040 Really, He's got one carry for seven yards and then 0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:44.880 he had two catches for nine yards. 0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:46.440 Three targets, so now not a. 0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.520 Lot, but the returners just glad to see him out there. 0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:48.800 Yeah. 0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:50.560 I didn't get hit, you know, Yeah. 0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:50.960 That we know of. 0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.120 I just want to make sure Hunter Henry gets special 0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:56.520 mention tonight. I thought he was making big plays and 0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:00.320 you know, absolutely on my list hardy yeah numbers wyse, 0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:02.800 uh you know, five catches for fifty six yards the 0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:06.560 touchdown of course, so uh he he deserves to mention 0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:09.440 and was doing a decent job blocking tonight too, which 0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:11.320 you know a couple of times it's like you don't 0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:13.920 look for that, but some of that protection that I 0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.200 think Mac was getting tonight, and I'm like, oh, the 0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:19.320 Hunter just had a nice block there, look at that, Okay, good. 0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:20.560 I was happy to see it. 0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:22.280 They had one of the fourth down catches, right, the 0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:23.240 one hander is that? 0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:24.440 That was the fourth and eight? 0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:24.800 Yeah. 0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:25.080 Yeah. 0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:27.520 He also had a bad call against him hunting. 0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:29.720 Yeah, that was a cheesy holding car. 0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.400 There were a couple of Now, Zoe says, the ref 0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:35.280 got it wrong. It was actually in Farrell Brown. Oh okay, 0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:36.600 and they called Hunter. 0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.560 Henry all right, all off of that because that was 0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:43.480 a yeah, no, there wasn't and but even I didn't 0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:44.760 think it was the one hand. I didn't think there 0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:46.200 was a chop block on the Eagles too. 0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:46.520 On that why. 0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:48.200 I thought the guy was coming in motion and tripped 0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:48.560 and fell. 0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:50.040 That's a good catch. 0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:50.400 Right there. 0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:52.240 But this is a great catch and this is another 0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:54.080 one for all right, we'll get to that in a second. 0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:55.840 I guess it almost looked like he was gonna stop, 0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:57.840 and Mac kind of thought, was not a good throw 0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:03.200 and uh, just great concentration by Hunter Henry to come 0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:06.040 up with that wasn't a good Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't. 0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:08.200 But I thought, overall, I agree with with you guys, 0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:12.880 Yeah on Hunter Henry. Let's yeah, I think that's about it. 0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:15.359 All right, let's get to the bats. The first thing 0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:17.759 that's really sticking in your crawduce, what is it? 0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:20.279 Just the start to the game, you know, just coming on, 0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:22.040 and I mean I think some of it was related 0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:24.640 to the weather, you know, with the ball slipping through 0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.399 Bourne's hands, but you just you can't start the first 0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:29.800 two possessions of the game with a pick six and 0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:31.840 then a fumble. I mean, and that's you know, just 0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:34.080 goes back to situational football. I think it's been a 0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:36.440 problem for them a lot of this year, you know, 0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:39.239 the last couple of years, and you know it not 0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:41.320 directly related, but you know, just at the end of 0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:43.120 the game, it's like, you know, you have an opportunity 0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:46.160 with situational football to punch the ball in and win 0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:49.279 the game, take the lead at very least, So kind 0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:53.080 of the bookends of just the performance, the execution, beginning 0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:54.920 of the game, end of the game. You got to 0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:56.680 clean those things up first. And I think, you know, 0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:58.680 if they can just get get out with not having 0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:00.600 those two turnovers and the points to come with them, 0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:02.680 let's see what happens with the game. You know, if 0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:04.960 they've gotten just an okay start, we could have been 0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:08.359 a totally different game. So I'm excited to see them 0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:10.319 build some confidence off of this, and hopefully they can 0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:12.600 carry that into the start next week and go in saying, hey, 0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:14.560 we are pretty good. We got a number of guys 0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:16.719 who made plays for us. We should be feeling pretty 0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:18.759 good about ourselves. Let's build off of this and you know, 0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:20.440 start to execute in those key moments. 0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:22.200 Yeah, one of the you know, and one of the 0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:26.320 first plays after Hurts fumbled. I don't know if it 0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:28.319 was a bad snap or if you just fumble the snap, 0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:30.480 or like, oh, okay, jump right on it. Oh we 0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:32.640 got an offside call? You know this that you know 0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:35.239 that factors into the start of the game. It wasn't 0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:38.440 just you know, the offense dragon. It was one of 0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:40.080 the things we really talked about in the pre game. 0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.080 It's a really good point because and that's why I 0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:44.319 like the way Mike said, like just the start. Yes, 0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:46.040 that was like the second play of the game. We 0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:47.920 get a neutral zone in fraction lined up in the 0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:50.320 neutral zone, you know, and that could have been you know, 0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:52.359 you're probably gonna get a punt there, it's gonna be now, 0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:56.680 it's gonna be third and fifteen. Instead it's first down, 0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:58.759 and they put a drive together, went right down the 0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:00.799 field and you were kind of fortunate to hold him 0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:03.239 too a field goal on that first drive. So I 0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:06.200 agree with you throwing throwing Wys in there. But I 0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.759 thought Mac was really bad early in the game. Now, 0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:13.160 like Mike said earlier, he responded to it. But I 0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:16.880 thought really throughout the game offensively, Philly won all the 0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:20.879 important downs. Patriots were five for fifteen on third down, 0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:24.800 one for four and fourth down first downs were the 0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:28.560 important in the Yeah, and I have the numbers. If 0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:30.680 you want me to give him down to break him down, 0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:34.239 first walked the Patriots. You know, you want to see 0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:36.680 the difference in the game. The Eagles scored on the 0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:39.360 first couple of possessions six yards. This is this is 0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:42.120 first down six yards, eight yards, eight yards, five yards, 0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:44.960 five yards, touchdown. Those are their first downs early in 0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:48.200 the game. Now it goes to zero, one, zero three. 0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:51.080 All three of those resulted in three and ounce. That 0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:54.680 was the first half. So put that in your pipe 0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:55.000 and smoke. 0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:57.280 First down success failure. 0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:01.120 That's what you get for argument, because he keeps receipts, 0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:03.759 especially on the goods that he's selling it. 0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:06.560 It was something we talked about in the pregame. I 0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.000 was like, Okay, let's see if it comes to fruition. 0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:10.479 I don't know, you come in here, start talking about 0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:12.279 third downs. I just want to know about the first downs. 0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:17.160 Legitimate Patriots offensive start on first down two yards, then 0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.720 nine yards, five yards, and that was the those resulting 0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:24.759 in they got better and then zero yards fumble, and 0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:28.520 then four yards minus one yard, three yard minus two yard. 0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:32.719 No wonder, they were scoreless, like with four minutes left 0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:35.520 in the first half, like they couldn't get the ball moving. 0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:37.560 What's the first thing that's gonna bug you about this 0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:39.759 game when you think about it tomorrow, Fred, The first 0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:41.960 bad thing on your list what's gonna bug you? 0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:45.600 Well, I think the pick six, you know, just that 0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:47.680 just the mistakes early. 0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:50.239 Yeah, the Eagles had had their hands on a lot 0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:53.399 of passes today. They only caught one, but they could 0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:53.919 have had four. 0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:57.200 I don't know if it's I don't know if I'm 0:37:57.280 --> 0:37:58.840 right to have this bug me as much as it 0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:02.440 does the decision to go for it on fourth and 0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:03.799 three instead of kicking the field. 0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:05.840 Okay, so are we going to get into that? 0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.400 My big my biggest bat of the day is Bill Belichick. 0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:11.840 I thought he coached a situationally poor game, and I 0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:13.640 think that's the first play that you start with. 0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:17.080 Okay, well, I mean we don't have to go chronologically here. 0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:19.080 We might as well get into it. If it's going 0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:20.040 to be on the is it going to be on 0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:20.879 the battles. 0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:20.880 For all of it? 0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:21.839 Or do you agree with the gay? 0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:23.719 Yeah? See, I think you can go. I could have 0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:25.600 gone either way on that one, Like I can make 0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:29.320 the argument for either side, like by not going you know, 0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:31.080 if you get the field goal, you're still going to 0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:35.279 need a touchdown. You know we're down It is because 0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:36.480 you would have been down five. 0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:39.840 But you lost if you kicked the field goal. You 0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:41.360 could have kicked the field goal won the game. 0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:44.120 If if, if things work out. But if you if 0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:46.680 everything is equal, you kick the field goal, you're still 0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:49.080 going to get a touchdown. If you miss the field goal, 0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:50.840 you're still going to need a touchdown. 0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:52.040 You know, right. 0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:54.360 And then with the way they did it, you needed 0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:56.680 two scores. You needed a touchdown in another. 0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:58.960 Quest because they ended up because they didn't hold them 0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:00.440 exactly right. 0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:02.080 But you put it so if the other team scores, 0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:04.279 I'm down two scores with five, right, but I now 0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:06.160 need a miracle. But I almost got it. 0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:10.120 No by not by not by not going by going 0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:12.040 for it and not getting it. You're still down by eight, 0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:14.359 So you need you need to get the ball back, 0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:15.960 and you need to score a touchdown with a two 0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:19.880 point conversion, you know, if you if you get if 0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:22.920 you go for the field goal, you're down five, you 0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:23.960 still need a touchdown. 0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:27.239 Okay, But if everything plays out exactly the same, a 0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:28.600 field goal wins the game. 0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:31.120 Yeah, at the end, that's all in hindsight, I mean 0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:31.879 in high sight. 0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:36.640 I don't think it's hindsight at all. I think so 0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:40.160 Fred's theory. Okay, so you're still down five, Yeah, Now 0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:42.840 I don't have to be perfect. I can. I can 0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:44.640 give up a drive, I can give up a field 0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:47.359 goal and still only be down a touchdown. The way 0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:49.319 he did it, I had to be perfect. I had 0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:51.960 to get the ball score immediately, get a three and 0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:54.439 our re turnover. They got a turnover on the first play, 0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:56.560 and they still couldn't win the game, right because they 0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:59.680 were chasing two scores. Yeah, all because you didn't kick 0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:01.680 a few. I would have kicked a field going fourth 0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:02.120 to twelve. 0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:05.920 Yeah, I'm kind of with you there, it was. It 0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.239 was a little too far out, but then kicked. 0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:08.840 You got this. 0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:13.680 You kept this guy weapon exactly exactly what what if 0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:15.560 if that's not going to be what he's here for? 0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:17.719 You should have kept full And I'll say I. 0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:19.439 Went better at the end of the game. I would 0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:23.319 have punted on fourth and seventeen. Certainly after the after 0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:25.440 the delay game, I would have punted. Yeah, see, it 0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:26.040 pinned them down. 0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:28.680 I'm more like they should have gone for that fifty 0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:30.239 three yarder. Yeah, you know. 0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:34.080 And by the way, Paul, delay a game, you can 0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:36.439 you can accept that because they didn't have any time 0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:37.359 all they had. 0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:40.920 Three three times, But you can't waste one. 0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:42.839 But go back to the fifty three yarder. I mean, 0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:45.440 it's game, it's week one. You got a new kicker, 0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:50.239 get him in there right away to give him that experience, right, 0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:52.120 And we didn't even think of that. But I like that. 0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:54.160 I totally agree for That's just what I was thinking about. 0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:55.719 It's like, you got a rookie here, you got so 0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:59.279 many of these new guys, you got so many new 0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:01.279 guys involved that. I mean, I just I rubber stamp 0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:04.160 everything Paul said about just understanding who this offense is, 0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:07.520 Like had this been last year, was playing right, how 0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:09.640 this field, how they were last year, this field goal, 0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:11.760 You're not going to be back in this position basically. 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:15.960 So I know it's not technically by the letter of 0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:19.320 the law, but they basically forced two turnovers on the 0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:21.960 last two possessions of the game and still lost well 0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:24.759 because they put themselves intentionally in a situation where they 0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:26.560 were going to need to chase two scores. Oh, you 0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:27.160 just said it. 0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:30.359 I don't need hindsight to because that was my thought 0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:32.520 at the time. I said you should take the three 0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:35.239 here on the fourth and three because of what Paul 0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:38.080 just said, the way your defense was playing you take 0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:42.120 three points, you may you get yourself within five, Go 0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:44.800 get a stop and then see what happened. 0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:48.279 There's other situations. What's less than that. Yeah, I'm I'm 0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:51.040 with you one hundred percent. I understand Fred's point. I 0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:54.240 think Fred makes the counter argument. That's the logical counter argument. 0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:56.840 I disagree with it, but a lot of people disagree, 0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:58.480 and I know what Fred's saying. We talked about it 0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:00.600 live during the game the four of us, Evan was 0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:00.880 with us. 0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:03.000 People in the blog were all, go for the points, 0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:03.760 go for the points. 0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:07.399 I also think when they scored the touchdown to make 0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:11.239 it what was it, twenty five twenty they scored a 0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:13.560 touchdown it they scored the last touchdown on the game. Right, Yeah, 0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:15.680 they went, they went, and they went, they went for two. 0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:20.360 I'm not mistaking fling. And then right quickly after that touchdown, 0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:23.080 he squip kicked and gave him the ball to twenty seven. 0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:23.600 Yeah. 0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:25.399 Sort, I can't understand that either. 0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:28.560 You correct, they were looking for a turnover, Well. 0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:30.120 They were looking to see if they do something stupid, 0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:32.160 they get them pinned down, then you have a chance 0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:34.279 on fourth and seventeen for midfield to pin them down, 0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:37.279 and you go for it. Like I don't understand. I 0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:39.480 don't I don't get it. It's the bill cost them 0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:41.080 a chance to win that game down the stretch with 0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:43.560 some very questionable decisions. 0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:45.799 Okay, we got into fourth and three. It didn't take 0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:47.640 over the entire show. Now we can move on other 0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:48.600 things on the bad list. 0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:52.520 By the way, it's a very fancy shirt you have on. 0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:54.320 Thank you very much, thank you. 0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:57.319 No, I mean, it's it's hard to know what we've 0:42:57.360 --> 0:42:59.320 covered because I know, like you know, third downs and 0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:02.120 you know, it's hard to I don't know. 0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:03.200 I don't have any other I. 0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:05.640 Would say penalties, those two hold the two holding calls, 0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:07.920 and especially if you're telling me it was supposed to 0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:09.319 be one of those was on Pharaoh Brown. 0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:11.839 Well that's what Zoe said, Okay, I know what I mean. 0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:14.120 If all people, yeah, you know, he would he would 0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.000 be he would be bitching about it if yeah, if 0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:18.399 it wasn't that way. But those that was a good 0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:20.040 drive they had going in the third quarter, and it 0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:23.320 self destructive because the two holding calls, you know, the 0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:26.640 just penalties at inopportunity times. They were very sloppy. Today. 0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:29.120 It was a Week one game. Both teams were pretty sloppy. 0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:30.840 Yeah, well they look around the NFL. 0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:32.600 There's a lot of bad football. 0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:32.879 Yeah. 0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:35.319 Evidently Miami and the Chargers played one of the very 0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:37.680 few games that was a shootout. They won that game 0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:38.759 thirty six thirty four. 0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:41.600 Oh boy, good way. So they'll go in with, you know, thinking, 0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:44.719 smelling themselves and we'll wax them next week. Is that 0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:46.040 what we That is that where we are. 0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:47.520 If we arrived at the point where we hope the 0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:49.239 other team is smelling itself so you can win. 0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:49.960 We're gonna wax them. 0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:52.799 Okay, by the way, ikay, I just double checked because 0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:55.520 I watched the replay. I'm not sure that the call 0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:59.839 was fantastic on Pharaoh Brown, but it was absolutely eighty six. Yeah, 0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.080 that's what And that's why they got the numbers screwed up. 0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:04.040 And when I when I just watched it once on 0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:06.920 the replay, I'm like, I think that's it. Yes, I 0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:09.920 double checked it. We can decide later if it was 0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:12.160 a good holding call or not. But it definitely wasn't 0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:13.399 a hunter Henry, that's sure. 0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:15.120 And the other one was blatant. 0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:17.040 Yeah, the other one was he turned to the ground. 0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:21.040 I saw that one live tapped him. From behind. 0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:23.520 You should you should have been another one on that 0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:26.160 Mac Jones run late in the game. Yeah, you should 0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:28.600 teach a defensive lineman if you if that arms around 0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:30.560 your neck, go down to the ground because they'll call 0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:31.200 it every time. 0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:34.200 I'm sorry, real quick before we get too far away 0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:37.640 from it. Deduce your prospex. But you mentioned the Dolphins game. 0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:39.240 Did you see Tyreek Hill's numbers? 0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:39.400 No? 0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:41.200 I know he had a huge on what happened? 0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:45.640 Eleven catches for two hundred and fifteen yards and two touchdowns. 0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:50.040 Flash Gordon, Is that good asking for a friend? 0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:50.640 I was. 0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:52.600 I was just trying to jump in just to say 0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:54.799 a little not to my Miles Brown. I know we've 0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:56.239 moved on from the good list, but I thought he 0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:58.800 had a couple of nice plays, and he's, you know, 0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:02.160 caught a lot of flack. But I particularly one tackle 0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:04.440 he had on Blue was a j Brown, you know, 0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:05.839 and I think it was the third down to get 0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:08.800 the stop, just open field tackle big guy Miles Bryant. 0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:10.080 You know, I know he's caught a lot of flack 0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:11.920 over the last few years, so. 0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:14.480 Just a little It would have been so nice if 0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:16.960 Matt could have closed the deal because this is the game. 0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:19.760 We're waiting for him to make his bone. He hasn't 0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:20.600 made his bones yet. 0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:22.680 It would have been poetic. Brady's in the building, you know. 0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:24.759 And finally they get you know what feels like a 0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:27.840 kind of a throwback win with the defense getting a 0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:30.680 stop and the offense complimentary football that YadA, YadA, YadA. 0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:33.200 What else you got on your bad list? Say anything? 0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:34.720 I'm tapped, tapped? 0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:38.919 How about you can't have anything else? Why is Juju 0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:41.320 Smith Schuster standing on the sideline on the on the 0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:45.600 last play and we're expecting body to tap dance and 0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:46.839 make that catch? 0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:49.719 No, man, I know I would have had Juju Smith 0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:52.800 Schuster on my bad list, but not not that. But 0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:54.719 I think it's an interesting thing to bring up though, 0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:57.880 because I had him on the bad list early. But 0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:01.279 to make two catches on this line and really didn't 0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:03.960 come close to making either one. I didn't like the 0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:06.279 way Smith Shustill looked in this game. I generally had 0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:09.879 one play which kind of kickstarted the first scoring drive. 0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:12.240 It was third and ten and he caught a shallow 0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:15.000 cross one of those bunch formations Eagles got lost and 0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:17.200 he got like fifteen yards. Other than that, I didn't 0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:17.719 like the way he. 0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:20.120 Looked at that drop. He looked unremarkable to me, kind 0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:21.920 of what we've seen this summer. He's just not really 0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:23.959 an explosive guy. He kind of rounds out his routes. 0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:25.839 There's not a lot of explosiveness with him. 0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:28.000 He can break some tackles, I think when he makes 0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:29.760 the catch, but he's not going to really separate. 0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:31.000 I don't know. 0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:32.960 He's one of those ones where you see him targeting 0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:35.560 so many different guys you wonder, you know, how are 0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:37.520 things going to play out over the next few weeks, 0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:37.920 of which is. 0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:41.160 Kind of what I'm like. Sometimes I'd just rather have 0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:45.919 the legs go to somebody else that I think is better. 0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:50.600 And one other individual I would say is Ezekiel Elliott. 0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:52.520 I don't think he was very good in this game. 0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:55.880 Too many I'm wondering, and I mentioned this to you, 0:46:56.120 --> 0:47:00.400 you and Evan Mike during the game. Stevenson was limited 0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:02.360 that practice during the course of the week with an illness. 0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:05.320 I wonder if he's sort of shaking that off and 0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:07.880 that's why he didn't get as full of workload. But 0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:09.800 I thought there were a couple of plays that Elliott 0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:12.640 got today that I think if Stevenson had the same 0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:15.600 opportunity now the defense is different. I get it, but 0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:18.440 I don't think steven I don't think Elliott maximizes yardage 0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:19.040 today he didn't. 0:47:19.040 --> 0:47:22.799 I don't know. Man. Other than the fumble, I thought 0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:26.280 he was nothing. I thought I thought he was okay. 0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:30.279 He had five catches for fourteen yards. Yeah, I mean 0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:31.880 you have to try to get that few yards on 0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:32.640 that many catches. 0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:34.440 I thought he was okay. 0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:37.000 He had one one eleven yard run, which is a 0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:40.759 play that I firmly believe Ramandri Stevenson would have taken 0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:42.720 for a touchdown. And if that was the little option, 0:47:42.880 --> 0:47:44.840 look in misdirection and. 0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:47.520 If you know nobody there. He had six carries for 0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:49.839 eighteen yards. If you take away the eleven. 0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:51.600 Yard run, that's a trick. And the eleven yard run, 0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:55.640 there's nobody like that's that's not the play. That might 0:47:55.680 --> 0:47:57.200 be the play that I was talking about. I think 0:47:57.360 --> 0:47:59.520 Stevenson had a big This is a big game for 0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:02.400 Steven's right there. Big game, and I don't I just 0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:04.239 think he cuts out. It takes him too long to 0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:08.000 get up. He just doesn't look. And I also thought 0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:09.799 he was loose with the ball. Now, he fumbled once, 0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:11.160 I thought he was loose with the ball a couple 0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:12.680 other times. I just think it was good. 0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:16.680 I didn't think Elliott from my like, okay, I didn't 0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:18.919 think Stevenson was was any better. 0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:22.480 No, Stevenson was two yards to carry. He was getting killed. 0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:25.600 But so I just think that and you guys are right, 0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:28.319 like if the defense might be different if Stevenson's there, 0:48:28.360 --> 0:48:29.960 they think he's more of a threat. But you know, 0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:31.800 he gets an opportunity in the open field at the 0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:33.600 end of the game, rips off a thirty two yard 0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:34.640 or on a screen. Yeah. 0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:37.280 I just was really interested in the running back usage. 0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:38.640 I mean, we've just never really seen it like this. 0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:40.239 They had a lot of two back sets with both 0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:41.439 those big guys out there. 0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:41.960 Handful of those. 0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:44.200 They didn't really use Montgomery as a third down back 0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:47.000 per se. It's just things have really changed, I think 0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:47.680 in the backfielder. 0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:51.239 I don't think we've seen the whole offense. You're gonna 0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:53.640 see Montgomery on third down, you know. 0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:56.720 Yeah, this is just week one. Well, it's just reacting 0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:57.399 to what we just saw. 0:48:57.480 --> 0:48:57.880 That was all. 0:48:58.040 --> 0:49:00.440 Hey, I saw gas Sickie in the game though. That's good. 0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:01.239 I know what he looks like. 0:49:01.320 --> 0:49:03.359 Now, well, he looks like he's on stilts. Huh. Yeah, 0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:04.960 he doesn't run well volleyball. 0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:06.400 I think he's pretty fast. 0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:10.759 I don't know he's like any any injuries to speak of. 0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:11.879 Not that I saw. 0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:15.560 I didn't see the Eagles had a couple, but I think, yeah, Patriots, I. 0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:17.680 Mean, might hear guys getting banged up, but there was 0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:19.040 nothing on the field that we saw. 0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:19.200 No. 0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:21.560 Okay, all right, let's get the phone calls here. Eight 0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:24.160 five five Pats five hundred. This episode of the Patriots 0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:27.520 Post Game Show is presented by Draft Kings. We begin 0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:30.320 by going to Rick in Florida. Rick, thanks for hanging on. 0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:30.840 Welcome. 0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:31.840 What do you got for us? 0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:34.279 Oh? 0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:37.600 Please, that's just the boss man is sitting right here. 0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:40.319 That's not what he's not paying attentions, doesn't even matter. 0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:40.759 It's fine. 0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:42.960 We'll go to Eric in New Jersey. Eric, I know 0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:46.239 you're there for us. Hi, Eric, Hey, how are we 0:49:46.320 --> 0:49:47.200 doing good? 0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:47.560 Eric? 0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:51.359 I think he kind of hit it there at the end. 0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:53.640 You know, I think we have to judge Mac again. 0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:56.600 The second game. I think we bring it back fashes 0:49:56.719 --> 0:50:00.400 that Andy's where you know, the game's handcuffed forward right 0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:02.640 there at the end, you know, opportunity right there on 0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:05.280 the opposite side, I mean our side of the field. 0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:08.480 The score had two opportunities to day, still hasn't had 0:50:08.520 --> 0:50:11.200 that comeback game to where you know, the opportunity is 0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:14.359 right there to present himself, you know. Defensively, I felt 0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:16.520 we held up pretty well. Not going to make too 0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:19.200 much conclusions right here off the week one, but I 0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:21.319 think the defense held up to live up to the part. 0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:23.680 But again, I think you know the story days Mac 0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:26.520 Jones not getting it done. I think it's a seventy 0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:30.080 seventeen game audition for the job here, So I think 0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:31.360 it off the line, I think that's. 0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:32.920 All right appreciated. 0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:34.560 Thanks sar Oh there it goes. You give me a 0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:40.440 little good, a little busyness anyway, audition. He said, defense 0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:42.080 was pretty good. He said a lot, He said an 0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:44.399 awful lot. But I think the defense did play well 0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:48.000 enough tonight. And I don't think Philadelphia played their best 0:50:48.080 --> 0:50:51.400 game either, but nobody does in Week one. But no, 0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:54.160 there was a lot of mediocre football we were watching. 0:50:55.040 --> 0:50:57.600 I thought we'd see more of those like those passes 0:50:57.680 --> 0:50:59.520 Hurts had that got ruled in complete that I thought 0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:01.480 was I thought he was in bounced, but I thought 0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:03.080 we'd see more stuff like that. It's just you know, 0:51:03.560 --> 0:51:05.600 him outside the pocket and he just flicks his wrists 0:51:05.640 --> 0:51:07.600 and it's like forty yards downfield, no problem. 0:51:08.000 --> 0:51:11.160 But uh yeah, we'll see. I mean, it's just interesting. 0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:13.080 It's you know, going back to just you know, having 0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:17.160 those two weapons. I mean, they're great players. I don't know, 0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:18.440 I'd be I'd be a little bit. 0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:20.520 I'm a little bit concerned if I was filly to think, 0:51:20.600 --> 0:51:23.200 you know, we got these two guys, is this going 0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:25.520 to be a can they stay healthy and be Will 0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:27.759 this be solvable with a team with you know, are 0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:28.319 they that good? 0:51:28.840 --> 0:51:29.160 I don't know. 0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:32.600 All right, Christian in Los Angeles, Hi, Christian, welcome in. 0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:33.239 What do you got? 0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:36.400 Hey, you guys, Hey, you guys. So I know, you know, 0:51:37.239 --> 0:51:41.160 did a slight tendency to lean towards sunshine and rainbows 0:51:41.160 --> 0:51:43.920 because of what we saw last year, but I gotta 0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:46.879 be you know, straight and called to see it. There 0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:52.600 was questionable play calling, terrible execution, and just the lack 0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:57.120 of focus from the beginning, in the middle and then 0:51:58.000 --> 0:52:01.520 and in clutch situations in the end. Anytime also, you 0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:04.120 get a quarterback who throws the ball fifty something times 0:52:04.440 --> 0:52:07.520 and you only got twenty points on the board. That's 0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:07.960 not good. 0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:09.239 He didn't do well. 0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:12.080 If you throw that many times and you can't score, 0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:15.319 and then taking sacks, and then the just the lack 0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:20.839 of focus to play, the lack of focus played at 0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:24.120 the crucial moment is what separates in this league the 0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:26.440 teams that make the playoffs and the teams that you 0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:28.759 got to give you know, hey, you know they did well. 0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:31.640 They show some portitudes. I'll take her out the air, 0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:34.839 two guys, But I'm a little dipointed in the way 0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:35.320 we played. 0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:38.440 Okay, all right, taking sacks, I don't know, you're dealing 0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:41.920 with a with a version of the offensive line. 0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:45.200 So I'm reading, I'm reading the transcript, and I'm back 0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:47.600 on the field goal nown like, this is the kind 0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:49.320 of stuff that Bill does, and everybody will eat it 0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:51.320 up because no one will call him on it. You know, 0:52:51.800 --> 0:52:53.560 in hindsight, do you wish you had kick more field 0:52:53.560 --> 0:52:55.439 goals in the game? Made the best decision we could 0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:57.200 at the time. Didn't know we'd be down there multiple times. 0:52:57.239 --> 0:52:59.080 Six minutes to go in the game, I don't know, 0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:02.040 ten minutes to go in the game bill. There's a 0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:04.440 big difference. There's a lot of time left in the game. 0:53:05.560 --> 0:53:07.400 Like I just. 0:53:09.200 --> 0:53:11.320 I don't know. I don't I don't really understand the 0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:12.839 decision making in this game at all. 0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:15.440 And some of the play calling down the stretch, I 0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:16.759 I have to agree the. 0:53:17.239 --> 0:53:19.840 Unless he's talking about a different possession that I'm thinking of, 0:53:19.920 --> 0:53:20.239 I don't know. 0:53:20.400 --> 0:53:23.279 Okay, So before the fourth and three there was that 0:53:23.480 --> 0:53:27.439 third down call which Ezekiel Elliott trying to run into 0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:29.279 the middle of the line is a terrible call. That 0:53:29.440 --> 0:53:32.960 hasn't worked. It hasn't especially with this line. It hasn't 0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:34.759 worked all night. Why are you doing that on a 0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:38.799 pivotal third down call? All right, well it didn't work. 0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:40.879 I understand maybe you're trying to play it a little safe, 0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:42.640 but now you can at least take the three Oh 0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:45.440 you're not taking the three points. Oh you don't trust 0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:49.080 your defense has been playing pretty well tonight. There were 0:53:49.160 --> 0:53:51.880 more questionable calls down the stretch. It got into a 0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:54.719 bit of a circus at the end. There was the 0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:59.799 I think on a first and ten on their last 0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:02.520 when they had the last chance to score, and I 0:54:02.560 --> 0:54:04.560 don't know if Mac got hurried and I didn't see it, 0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:06.800 but he threw the ball away over to the left sideline. 0:54:06.840 --> 0:54:09.440 Do you remember that one friend, I don't know what 0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:11.840 the play was supposed to be there, Yeah, And I 0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:15.279 don't buy got drilled. Yeah yeah, I'm like, I don't 0:54:15.360 --> 0:54:17.399 I don't know what exactly was supposed to be going 0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:20.040 on there. But on a first down call, it's like, 0:54:20.080 --> 0:54:21.719 if you're going to run a screen and just try 0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:23.279 and maybe I don't know, get the ball out of 0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:26.000 bounds and and time is coming off the clock, maybe 0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:27.439 that's the time to do that call. 0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:27.879 Yeah. 0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:30.640 So, I mean I also just think they were they 0:54:30.680 --> 0:54:32.880 were really limited today and what they probably felt like 0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:34.759 they could do, you know, so as much as it's like, 0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:38.120 don't do that, like they their hands were tied with 0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:40.719 starting two rookies at you know, two guard spots and 0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:42.839 a guy at right tackle who hasn't didn't have any 0:54:42.880 --> 0:54:43.359 training camp. 0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:47.120 All right, The Patriots the Eagles episode of the postgame 0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:49.480 show is on right now, and Brady and Kansas City 0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:52.080 is on with us. Brady, thanks for calling in. What 0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:52.560 do you got? 0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:53.719 Hey? 0:54:53.800 --> 0:54:55.160 Guys? Think football is back? 0:54:55.239 --> 0:54:55.960 Right right? 0:54:56.160 --> 0:54:56.680 That's true? 0:54:56.960 --> 0:54:59.120 Right, so right right? 0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:01.279 I there was I think there were a lot of 0:55:01.360 --> 0:55:03.880 question marks coming into this season. We didn't know how 0:55:03.920 --> 0:55:06.359 Bill o'bryant's offense was going to be. And I think 0:55:06.400 --> 0:55:09.160 this game is obviously a little bit more optimism than 0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:12.239 pessimistic view this year. I think last year we went 0:55:12.280 --> 0:55:15.279 in a little pessimistic with all the whole chaos going on. 0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:19.640 I had one point. One point that kind of I 0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:21.440 think might have been missed on the bad list was 0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:25.120 the just running offense in general. That seemed like that 0:55:25.320 --> 0:55:28.600 was completely in ept today. Anywhere they ran. They had 0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:31.799 a good front obviously, but just not getting anything from 0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:35.640 it was tough to see. And then I just wanted 0:55:35.680 --> 0:55:38.200 to make the other point of obviously, you guys talked 0:55:38.200 --> 0:55:40.319 about Juju and not being out there and not looking great, 0:55:40.640 --> 0:55:44.040 and then meanwhile, I think Jacoby Myers looked pretty darn 0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:47.799 good on the Raiders today. I just took that kind 0:55:47.800 --> 0:55:51.920 of nasty hit, which is hopefully okay. But just watching 0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:55.760 the swaps there and seeing like how we think that Juju. 0:55:57.000 --> 0:55:58.719 Everyone keeps saying he can break tackles. I haven't seen 0:55:58.800 --> 0:55:59.640 him break kingle tackle. 0:55:59.680 --> 0:56:00.000 Get him. 0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:03.319 He got some yards after catch today, not a lot, 0:56:03.440 --> 0:56:04.520 but he's talking. 0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:06.640 About breaking tackles. He couldn't break anything. 0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:09.680 He made a first guy miss on one of his 0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:13.399 You know, every every time I saw him catch the ball, 0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:15.080 he got tackled immediately, just like Yakobe. 0:56:15.480 --> 0:56:18.880 No go look again, because they had one crossing route 0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:20.640 that there was nobody there. They got caught in the 0:56:20.640 --> 0:56:21.320 bunch formation. 0:56:21.520 --> 0:56:22.920 Other than that, No, there was one. 0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:24.399 He caught in the flat and he made the first 0:56:24.440 --> 0:56:26.160 guy miss and picked up like eight yards. 0:56:27.280 --> 0:56:29.239 Brady, you heard Fred, go watch the game again. 0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:32.560 I'll be I'll be with you, Brady. I'll be doing it. 0:56:32.640 --> 0:56:33.799 So we'll be here until one am. 0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:36.600 We're gonna stay. We're gonna stay like the Brady moments 0:56:36.640 --> 0:56:37.280 that never happened. 0:56:37.320 --> 0:56:39.279 As long as it takes Brady to watch the game 0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:41.239 again and call back again. That's how long we'll stay 0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:41.800 here tonight. 0:56:42.719 --> 0:56:46.959 Everybody agree, I uh, can we talk about the Brady 0:56:46.960 --> 0:56:48.600 thing real quick? The other Brady, the real Brady that 0:56:48.719 --> 0:56:49.400 was here tonight. 0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:49.719 Yeah. 0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:51.399 I just was gonna say. I thought it was pretty cool. 0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:53.319 I thought it was pretty cool. And Tom ran out 0:56:53.400 --> 0:56:55.080 with it with his jersey on and he was screaming 0:56:55.120 --> 0:56:56.479 to the side. 0:56:57.000 --> 0:56:59.320 It was good. I thought it was I thought it 0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:01.600 was well, this is isn't the big one. No, well 0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:01.879 I don't. 0:57:02.000 --> 0:57:02.839 I mean, I don't even care. 0:57:02.880 --> 0:57:04.600 I just look as a you know, and I know 0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:06.120 this is going to drive it'll be crazy because I'm 0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:07.480 supposed to be the one who hates Brady. But for 0:57:07.600 --> 0:57:10.000 me just to see him in a Patriots jersey again, 0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:12.600 run down that field, you know, to see him kind 0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:14.960 of just embrace being a Patriot again. 0:57:15.719 --> 0:57:17.040 I I thought it was really cool. 0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:19.200 I don't really care about like the speeches and all 0:57:19.240 --> 0:57:21.400 that kind of but just to have that guy back 0:57:21.440 --> 0:57:22.240 in the thing at. 0:57:22.120 --> 0:57:26.360 That moment, for me to see him in the jersey, 0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:30.120 I said, I'll be a Patriot. I loved it. 0:57:30.200 --> 0:57:30.680 It was great. 0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:32.840 I I you know, I know that we were talking 0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:35.000 about the game and that's really what's super important. But 0:57:36.040 --> 0:57:38.960 we should maybe just mention six twelve twenty four. Next year, 0:57:38.960 --> 0:57:41.280 they're going to put Brady into the into. 0:57:41.160 --> 0:57:43.760 The that'll be like a two or three hour event 0:57:43.880 --> 0:57:47.280 where it won't it won't feel it won't feel rushed, 0:57:47.920 --> 0:57:48.840 you know, it'll. 0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:50.320 Have me and Paul come out and do a little thing. 0:57:50.400 --> 0:57:52.080 All the people that were partying. 0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:57.080 Paril, Paral Parreal, they don't know have any idea who 0:57:57.160 --> 0:57:58.440 I am they would know how to spell my name. 0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:00.800 Okay, I'm glad you like, by the way. 0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:02.840 I did look it up third and three from the 0:58:02.880 --> 0:58:07.800 seventeen Elliott. They'll call that you pointed out for no gain. 0:58:08.040 --> 0:58:11.120 Terrible call. Ten thirteen left in the game. Wow, not 0:58:11.240 --> 0:58:16.000 six minutes, wow, ten thirteen left. Yeah, okay, So it's intentional. 0:58:16.840 --> 0:58:20.320 It's not all you think he doesn't know, because he 0:58:20.400 --> 0:58:22.880 knows every twist of the you know, tweak of the 0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:23.840 details to make it. 0:58:23.960 --> 0:58:25.000 It's like a little bit more. 0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:28.280 Turns the fourth and two into a fourth and one 0:58:28.360 --> 0:58:32.640 in Indy. He turns the the fourth and thirteen when 0:58:32.680 --> 0:58:34.720 he passed up the Gostowski field goal in the perfect 0:58:34.760 --> 0:58:38.520 season and into something that it was a fifty No, no, 0:58:38.600 --> 0:58:41.480 it wasn't. It wasn't like it's always off by a 0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:44.680 little bit, right down to more recently, after the playoff game. 0:58:45.880 --> 0:58:49.000 You know that, you know last season, you know that 0:58:49.080 --> 0:58:51.360 was last season. Last season we weren't competitive. No, it 0:58:51.480 --> 0:58:53.880 was last night, Bill, you played the playoff game last night. 0:58:54.600 --> 0:58:57.160 Now you're already on to the next year, Like those 0:58:57.200 --> 0:58:57.840 are intentional. 0:58:58.560 --> 0:59:01.040 You brought up the Brady thing. Okay, I'm glad he 0:59:01.240 --> 0:59:03.400 ran down the field, and that got your juices. Now, 0:59:03.600 --> 0:59:07.400 I know and I and I thought Robert, I thought 0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:09.360 Robert Charlie Batch coming. 0:59:09.200 --> 0:59:13.080 Out for the Lions. I didn't know I did. 0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:22.200 That is w First of all, Eric Hipple, I prefer 0:59:22.320 --> 0:59:25.240 to Greg Danielson, Greg. 0:59:25.680 --> 0:59:30.440 Yeah, my brain was going random line Quarry, Gary Daniels, Greg, 0:59:30.560 --> 0:59:31.840 Greg Landry, Gary. 0:59:34.080 --> 0:59:37.680 And Robert Crafts speech was was good. Brady did a 0:59:37.760 --> 0:59:39.800 good job. I just thought there was gonna be a 0:59:39.840 --> 0:59:43.880 little something more than all right, the big reveal see 0:59:44.000 --> 0:59:44.840 in June. 0:59:44.800 --> 0:59:47.480 And he's putting him into the Hall of Fame without waiting. 0:59:47.760 --> 0:59:50.120 Oh no, wait, I did see that is good. I 0:59:50.200 --> 0:59:52.360 didn't think he was getting into the Patriots Hall of Fame. 0:59:53.600 --> 0:59:57.720 What do you expect them to put his number up 0:59:57.760 --> 1:00:00.040 in the stadium, do something on the lighthouse. 1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:03.240 Another than I to see you next year without telling 1:00:03.280 --> 1:00:05.000 you what was happening. I tried to tell you what 1:00:05.160 --> 1:00:06.000 was happening. 1:00:05.720 --> 1:00:06.640 Which was nothing. 1:00:07.840 --> 1:00:12.680 They're gonna have a stadium wide event next year in 1:00:12.760 --> 1:00:15.520 the middle of June. Okay, but for one guy. Okay, 1:00:15.560 --> 1:00:16.320 but it's not enough. 1:00:16.560 --> 1:00:19.560 You didn't need to have the big hullaballoo and have 1:00:19.760 --> 1:00:21.480 him here for that. They just could have made that 1:00:21.560 --> 1:00:22.560 announcement on Twitter. 1:00:22.680 --> 1:00:24.320 No, I think what you wanted to do is you 1:00:24.360 --> 1:00:24.960 wanted to get him. 1:00:24.960 --> 1:00:26.360 I know what they wanted to do. What did they 1:00:26.480 --> 1:00:28.560 have to do? Did they have to have Brady here 1:00:28.640 --> 1:00:29.080 for that time? 1:00:29.360 --> 1:00:31.320 No, because I think you know, have him talk. He 1:00:31.520 --> 1:00:33.680 just retired. You wanted to get him back here as 1:00:33.720 --> 1:00:36.680 soon as possible, so you don't have everybody like, oh, 1:00:36.760 --> 1:00:38.720 what are they doing? What are they doing? So you 1:00:39.080 --> 1:00:42.080 get him down here, you know, because he just retired, he's, 1:00:42.360 --> 1:00:45.400 you know, fresh off of that, and you have a 1:00:45.520 --> 1:00:48.560 nice event at halftime, and you announced the big event, 1:00:48.720 --> 1:00:50.200 which is going to be June twelfth. 1:00:50.480 --> 1:00:53.040 In all seriousness, can I ask you a serious question here? 1:00:53.240 --> 1:00:53.439 Yeah? 1:00:53.600 --> 1:00:56.360 Did you really think it was bad? Like just have 1:00:56.520 --> 1:00:58.680 like a little halftime thing like everybody else gets. 1:00:59.000 --> 1:01:01.000 Are you just I magine about Ray Sanders never had 1:01:01.000 --> 1:01:05.440 a day to be there except in Detroit. 1:01:05.720 --> 1:01:05.760 No. 1:01:06.000 --> 1:01:10.680 I just thought there would have been something, some mementos, 1:01:10.800 --> 1:01:14.000 some type of something other than an announcement. 1:01:14.280 --> 1:01:14.600 Today. 1:01:14.680 --> 1:01:16.480 All we got was an announcement, and I thought there 1:01:16.480 --> 1:01:17.560 would have been a little bit more. 1:01:17.760 --> 1:01:21.240 That's all well, And I wouldn't have brought to explain 1:01:21.280 --> 1:01:23.680 to everybody without spilling any beans. 1:01:24.320 --> 1:01:26.240 But here's the other thing, and here's the other thing, 1:01:26.400 --> 1:01:30.160 and you know it's not an excuse, like you know, 1:01:30.320 --> 1:01:32.360 they had to get a two hundred and fifty million 1:01:32.440 --> 1:01:36.120 dollar renovation done and they just got under the wire. 1:01:36.240 --> 1:01:38.200 I mean I think I just finished it. 1:01:38.280 --> 1:01:40.080 Yes, Yeah, I don't think that they wanted to like 1:01:40.720 --> 1:01:42.520 and we're doing a statue or we're doing you know, 1:01:42.640 --> 1:01:45.200 like I think they just there was a lot going on, 1:01:45.560 --> 1:01:48.360 and I think they didn't want to like short change Brady, 1:01:48.800 --> 1:01:50.640 so they wanted to make sure that they had this 1:01:50.840 --> 1:01:54.080 other day announced that is going to be all Brady. 1:01:54.160 --> 1:01:58.520 I mean, it's gonna be gonna be like Tom, it's huge, 1:01:58.520 --> 1:02:01.120 bigger than Larry by time Bluem. It's gonna be awesome. 1:02:01.240 --> 1:02:05.360 Yeah, it's true, you know, speaking of and he made 1:02:05.400 --> 1:02:08.200 an announcement and letting people know that he's going into 1:02:08.240 --> 1:02:11.040 the hall without a weight, never been done before. 1:02:11.200 --> 1:02:13.320 They gave him a tribute video and they made an announcement. 1:02:13.560 --> 1:02:16.680 I just it got a little overhyped for what it ended. 1:02:16.720 --> 1:02:20.880 Well, whose fault is that people in the radio right 1:02:21.040 --> 1:02:22.520 with your radio show? Do you talk about on your 1:02:22.680 --> 1:02:23.680 that's right, that's. 1:02:23.440 --> 1:02:25.840 Music, that's right. They didn't want us talking about. 1:02:25.600 --> 1:02:28.600 I mean, it's unbelievable, like, what's you know they should 1:02:28.640 --> 1:02:31.760 do this, and that's great, but like the media, people 1:02:31.800 --> 1:02:34.200 who just had to know what was gonna happen, just 1:02:34.280 --> 1:02:36.400 wait and see and you'll find out and you'll find 1:02:36.400 --> 1:02:36.880 out nothing. 1:02:37.000 --> 1:02:38.800 They just wanted nothing happened. You're right. 1:02:38.920 --> 1:02:40.480 I thought that was great. I thought it was great. 1:02:40.520 --> 1:02:42.240 I think I bet you every fan in there is like, 1:02:42.280 --> 1:02:44.840 this is just what we needed to like kind of reset. 1:02:44.520 --> 1:02:47.600 This, all that stuff. All that stuff will be you 1:02:47.680 --> 1:02:50.160 know that you're talking about. Yea, if it happens, Yeah, 1:02:50.360 --> 1:02:52.120 we'll be saved for the Brady Night. 1:02:53.440 --> 1:02:55.960 Okay, I'm going to do the top twelve a game 1:02:55.960 --> 1:02:57.200 and you want to ask some input on that one. 1:02:57.720 --> 1:03:01.320 I thought I thought tonight was a Brady Night, and 1:03:01.640 --> 1:03:02.680 it was because he was here. 1:03:02.840 --> 1:03:06.240 Nobody even hanged I told you it wasn't the Brady Night. 1:03:06.840 --> 1:03:09.200 No, there are gonna be multiple Brady Nights and we 1:03:09.800 --> 1:03:13.400 I mean, you've got thirteen minutes and they will also 1:03:13.560 --> 1:03:16.400 not want us to talk about those either. My apology, 1:03:16.440 --> 1:03:19.080 I'll apologize for the media for helping, once again to 1:03:19.160 --> 1:03:22.040 promote you anything that the Patriots get thirteen minutes, make 1:03:22.080 --> 1:03:22.840 that mistake. 1:03:22.560 --> 1:03:24.640 In thirteen minutes at halftime. I mean, you only have 1:03:24.760 --> 1:03:25.400 so much time. 1:03:25.560 --> 1:03:27.600 We don't speak about the Patriots and whatever. 1:03:28.000 --> 1:03:30.680 We're gonna like unveil all this stuff, and like we're 1:03:30.680 --> 1:03:33.360 gonna unveil all this stuff in like thirteen minutes minus 1:03:33.440 --> 1:03:35.520 the time that takes the stage out in statute, you know, 1:03:35.920 --> 1:03:39.160 and that's gonna be. That's gonna be, you know, what 1:03:39.360 --> 1:03:42.440 he deserves. No, did you talk that would be disrespect? 1:03:42.560 --> 1:03:44.720 Did you talk about that, that's how you treat lions 1:03:44.760 --> 1:03:47.160 in Detroit because you've never want a damn thing. 1:03:47.640 --> 1:03:49.960 We want a playoff game in nineteen ninety one? Did 1:03:50.080 --> 1:03:53.120 you talk about the Brady thing at all during Patriots 1:03:53.160 --> 1:03:54.040 Unfiltered this week? 1:03:54.360 --> 1:03:54.400 No? 1:03:54.680 --> 1:03:56.880 Not really, you didn't mention it. I mean we might 1:03:56.920 --> 1:03:58.040 have mentioned that it's happening. 1:03:58.240 --> 1:04:01.400 Okay, that's about what we did. Would entire segments on. 1:04:01.560 --> 1:04:04.040 Oh God, you're lying. Okay, go back and listen to 1:04:04.080 --> 1:04:05.760 the part I don't know your show, you don't you 1:04:05.840 --> 1:04:08.480 take too many breaks. But on the other shows, they 1:04:08.640 --> 1:04:12.640 they they had they had segments just people what should 1:04:12.640 --> 1:04:12.800 they do? 1:04:12.960 --> 1:04:15.280 What should they do about what they're gonna do with Brady. 1:04:15.440 --> 1:04:16.440 Yeah, I'm kind of with. 1:04:16.960 --> 1:04:19.160 No, we have four hours to kill every day, not 1:04:19.240 --> 1:04:20.760 two hours with the ten minute lunch break. 1:04:20.800 --> 1:04:22.880 Oh and you kill it as you kill it, that's 1:04:22.960 --> 1:04:26.280 for sure. I asked about it's dead, and what do 1:04:26.320 --> 1:04:26.720 you think. 1:04:26.920 --> 1:04:28.840 We engage with what the people want to talk about. 1:04:28.880 --> 1:04:31.040 That's what people actually wanted to talk about. 1:04:31.240 --> 1:04:33.600 Freddy Joker and straight said, you just see that? 1:04:34.000 --> 1:04:34.800 Yeah? Is that right? 1:04:34.920 --> 1:04:36.960 Yeah? Three twenty four. 1:04:37.040 --> 1:04:38.680 I thought Medvedev would give him a little bit of 1:04:38.720 --> 1:04:39.480 a tougher time. 1:04:39.840 --> 1:04:41.880 Did Coco drop the first set yesterday? 1:04:42.080 --> 1:04:43.920 She did badly. She badly. 1:04:44.000 --> 1:04:46.640 She looked awful in the first set, and then as 1:04:46.720 --> 1:04:48.240 bad as she played in the first set, the other 1:04:48.280 --> 1:04:49.680 one played in the next. 1:04:51.120 --> 1:04:52.640 I like her. I like watching her play. 1:04:53.400 --> 1:04:55.000 It was awesome at the end. Did you you didn't 1:04:55.000 --> 1:04:55.400 have to see the. 1:04:55.440 --> 1:04:55.919 End of that match. 1:04:56.160 --> 1:04:57.680 I didn't see anything, you know what, you know what 1:04:57.960 --> 1:05:00.040 kind of like the people are gonna be like, what 1:05:00.120 --> 1:05:03.320 are they taking this? Austin Panco, she's a little bitch 1:05:03.600 --> 1:05:07.760 and and and no, I think it's good for tennis. Tennis. 1:05:07.960 --> 1:05:11.600 Women's tennis needs a villain. I think she's she's she's. 1:05:11.600 --> 1:05:13.400 Just you know, might be a good time to break. 1:05:13.520 --> 1:05:14.480 She yells at people. 1:05:14.640 --> 1:05:15.080 I like it. 1:05:15.320 --> 1:05:15.760 I like it. 1:05:15.880 --> 1:05:16.520 I want her to go. 1:05:16.680 --> 1:05:19.520 Well, you get like off next week, you got to 1:05:19.520 --> 1:05:20.720 point out I don't know who you're talk about. You 1:05:20.760 --> 1:05:21.160 got yeah. 1:05:21.280 --> 1:05:22.560 I like she. 1:05:23.160 --> 1:05:25.880 She lost in the quarters, I believe, but I think 1:05:25.960 --> 1:05:28.760 she's just what the game needs. 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Thanks Nancy? 1:08:28.320 --> 1:08:29.439 What would you what would you call it? 1:08:29.479 --> 1:08:31.960 If your sister wasn't officially married to the guy, that 1:08:32.640 --> 1:08:33.840 is what we'd call her? 1:08:33.920 --> 1:08:34.400 A tramp? 1:08:36.080 --> 1:08:39.240 Wow, Live from our studios inside you Lette Stadium. 1:08:39.520 --> 1:08:42.920 Here's Hardy. It's not as bad as what Fred just said. 1:08:43.280 --> 1:08:47.120 All right, back to this episode of the Patriots Postgame Show, 1:08:47.160 --> 1:08:50.000 which is presented by DraftKings. Thank you for being here. 1:08:50.000 --> 1:08:51.360 We're going to hear from the head coach here in 1:08:51.360 --> 1:08:54.840 a few minutes, as well as the quarterback. But first 1:08:55.080 --> 1:08:58.200 we'll go back to the phones and we'll talk to Dawson, 1:08:58.280 --> 1:09:03.000 who is in Pennsylvania. Dawson, you have a good list tonight. 1:09:03.080 --> 1:09:04.400 That's somebody that we missed. 1:09:06.120 --> 1:09:09.200 I think. I think on Uh. 1:09:10.880 --> 1:09:13.920 And I mentioned really had aid game. 1:09:14.040 --> 1:09:17.600 Yeah, both of those guys were mentioned. Yeah, I agree he. 1:09:17.720 --> 1:09:21.320 Gave up, you know, that little out route to Brown, 1:09:21.600 --> 1:09:25.040 but that wasn't really anything too negative. I mean Brown, 1:09:25.479 --> 1:09:27.559 he's just one of the best wide receivers I think 1:09:27.560 --> 1:09:28.000 in the league. 1:09:28.040 --> 1:09:29.800 Yeah, he's a good player. Absolutely. 1:09:30.560 --> 1:09:33.360 One of my bad though, I think, is mac Jones' 1:09:33.479 --> 1:09:36.080 arm strength. When you look at a lot of his passes, 1:09:36.360 --> 1:09:39.200 they were real low to the ground. He it didn't 1:09:39.240 --> 1:09:42.840 look like he had anything behind him, and it just 1:09:43.040 --> 1:09:43.720 it didn't look right. 1:09:44.040 --> 1:09:46.320 Yeah, there were a couple more than a couple of those, 1:09:46.520 --> 1:09:49.400 But I'm not sure it's arm strength as it is confidence, 1:09:50.560 --> 1:09:52.560 like you know, he sees it in like I do. 1:09:52.880 --> 1:09:56.040 You knows hesitation because a lot a couple of these 1:09:56.120 --> 1:09:59.320 weren't long throws, you know, they were like pretty close 1:09:59.400 --> 1:10:01.400 and when he came step in and he threw him low, 1:10:01.520 --> 1:10:03.840 and I just I think it's it's a mental thing. 1:10:04.080 --> 1:10:04.840 I don't think it's a. 1:10:04.840 --> 1:10:08.719 Hard mentioned one that he got hit. Yeah, go ahead, Dawson. 1:10:08.720 --> 1:10:09.120 I'm sorry. 1:10:09.960 --> 1:10:12.720 Do you guys think that that first interception off of 1:10:12.800 --> 1:10:15.439 Bourne's hands played a factor into that night or do 1:10:15.560 --> 1:10:18.880 you think he was just he wasn't truly confident in 1:10:19.000 --> 1:10:22.920 the in the play scheme, and he just wasn't wasn't 1:10:22.920 --> 1:10:24.599 getting it out there to the guy's quick enough. 1:10:24.720 --> 1:10:26.720 I don't know the ball. I think the ball was wet. 1:10:26.760 --> 1:10:28.519 I think it was coming about out a little higher 1:10:28.560 --> 1:10:30.080 than he wanted it to. I think it could be 1:10:30.200 --> 1:10:34.200 too early, Yeah, because he managed to fix that. 1:10:34.280 --> 1:10:36.519 But I I just thought there were a lot of 1:10:36.560 --> 1:10:39.559 floaters in the game. I thought the Eagles got their 1:10:39.600 --> 1:10:42.280 hands on several passes before Patriots did. 1:10:42.439 --> 1:10:44.920 The first long attempt that he tried that ended up 1:10:44.960 --> 1:10:47.759 coming up just a tiny bit short. Yeah, beautiful. 1:10:48.000 --> 1:10:49.560 It was a flat drop, beautiful. 1:10:49.960 --> 1:10:52.519 Yeah, beautiful looking ball in the air. I'm like, Oh, 1:10:52.640 --> 1:10:55.280 that's tight spiral and that's not going to have enough. 1:10:55.360 --> 1:10:57.559 It's just gonna be a little bit And Darius Slay 1:10:57.600 --> 1:10:58.960 made a nice play on it. Well. 1:10:59.360 --> 1:11:02.000 Plus yeah, is that the one that was born was 1:11:02.040 --> 1:11:02.599 wide open. 1:11:03.120 --> 1:11:06.080 Initially he was open and Slay played catch up. Yeah, 1:11:07.520 --> 1:11:09.320 but he should have caught it. And if he doesn't, 1:11:09.400 --> 1:11:11.320 mean you know, a couple of plays later they got 1:11:11.360 --> 1:11:15.160 the drive started. It's another one that's like just tight coverage. 1:11:15.200 --> 1:11:15.439 Guys. 1:11:16.400 --> 1:11:19.760 I thought there was the key play. It was that 1:11:19.840 --> 1:11:22.920 play that you're to me. The offense changed when they 1:11:23.000 --> 1:11:24.920 threw the bomb to Bourne. That was you know, this 1:11:25.080 --> 1:11:27.720 is it. Slay's got it, he's tracking it and he 1:11:27.840 --> 1:11:31.479 drops it. After that, the Patriots started getting opened on 1:11:31.640 --> 1:11:35.479 shallow crosses and I didn't I thought they were really 1:11:35.560 --> 1:11:38.000 covered well before this. I think this sort of I 1:11:38.120 --> 1:11:39.840 know that people don't want to hear it, but took 1:11:39.880 --> 1:11:40.760 the top off a little. 1:11:41.040 --> 1:11:43.280 Yeah, and watching it again, you're right, Paul Slay should 1:11:43.280 --> 1:11:45.720 have caught that. He's got two hands on. I just 1:11:46.040 --> 1:11:48.280 watching it live, I'm like, oh, he closed a lot 1:11:48.320 --> 1:11:48.960 of ground there. 1:11:49.120 --> 1:11:52.040 He did, but then he dropped it and then the 1:11:52.080 --> 1:11:54.000 Patriots ended up scoring a touchdown on that drive. 1:11:55.200 --> 1:11:58.120 Anybody gonna be disappointed if they moved the ball down 1:11:58.240 --> 1:12:00.360 field with a lot of underneath stuff and do it 1:12:00.439 --> 1:12:03.360 that way, and maybe if if we're lacking in some 1:12:03.760 --> 1:12:06.680 in some long attempts. As long as you get in 1:12:06.760 --> 1:12:08.240 the end zone and get yourself out. 1:12:08.520 --> 1:12:10.760 And okay with that, but you need to take those 1:12:10.800 --> 1:12:13.160 shots every once in a while to keep the defense honest. 1:12:13.640 --> 1:12:16.439 You do, and you might get a flag one I think. 1:12:16.320 --> 1:12:18.160 They were important, like they could have gotten a flag 1:12:18.200 --> 1:12:18.479 on this one. 1:12:18.520 --> 1:12:18.600 Now. 1:12:18.640 --> 1:12:21.960 I think it's offensive interference. But I've seen that called sure, 1:12:22.280 --> 1:12:24.519 I've seen that called defensive passing appearance. That's in the 1:12:24.600 --> 1:12:27.120 end zone, that's a free touchdown. I think those players 1:12:27.120 --> 1:12:28.040 are valuable. I agree with you. 1:12:28.120 --> 1:12:32.080 Freddy Mac in Connecticut, Mac, thanks for joining us. What 1:12:32.160 --> 1:12:37.320 do you got hey, good evening, guys, good good, thank you. 1:12:38.280 --> 1:12:41.280 Yeah, thanks for having me on. First of all, huge 1:12:41.360 --> 1:12:45.080 fan and Paul and I don't know if you guys 1:12:45.120 --> 1:12:48.280 still take lunches, but i'd love to buy lunch for 1:12:48.360 --> 1:12:50.639 you guys. Been listening for a long time. 1:12:50.880 --> 1:12:53.360 You don't need to do that, but thank you. 1:12:53.600 --> 1:12:55.280 Just do you know how to spell my name? 1:12:58.400 --> 1:12:58.720 I here? 1:12:59.640 --> 1:13:03.760 Okay, I appreciate that set that up, but Fred's right, 1:13:03.800 --> 1:13:08.280 it's completely unnecess not I need. Fred usually buys for me, 1:13:08.400 --> 1:13:08.880 so I don't. 1:13:10.320 --> 1:13:13.960 Secondly, I didn't see uh mark out there was he out. 1:13:13.840 --> 1:13:15.439 There was Yeah, he was out there. 1:13:15.600 --> 1:13:17.639 Yeah, yeah, playing safety a lot. 1:13:19.960 --> 1:13:22.240 Probably, I mean he probably didn't play more than fifteen 1:13:22.360 --> 1:13:24.479 snaps maybe something that vicinity. 1:13:26.439 --> 1:13:28.120 Okay, it was there. That fact. 1:13:28.160 --> 1:13:29.160 Thanks, Matt, appreciate it. 1:13:30.040 --> 1:13:32.800 One thing that we were talking about during the week 1:13:32.960 --> 1:13:35.840 is Evan didn't want to see the mush rush. We 1:13:35.960 --> 1:13:36.960 saw a lot of mush. 1:13:36.840 --> 1:13:40.080 Rush, did we. Yeah? 1:13:40.360 --> 1:13:42.759 Oh yeah, I don't know. I don't know how to define. 1:13:42.800 --> 1:13:44.200 I mean, I feel like they did a good job 1:13:44.280 --> 1:13:45.920 of kind of containing him, but even when he was 1:13:45.960 --> 1:13:47.559 able to get out, it seemed like they were able 1:13:47.600 --> 1:13:48.120 to get out too. 1:13:48.200 --> 1:13:51.560 And someone what the Eagles struggled early to protect and 1:13:51.640 --> 1:13:53.040 I thought that just kind of settled down. 1:13:53.240 --> 1:13:56.160 Yeah, I think second half there were a lot of 1:13:56.240 --> 1:13:59.360 three man rushes where there was no no intention of 1:13:59.400 --> 1:13:59.920 getting to her. 1:14:00.360 --> 1:14:02.880 Whatever they did today worked because I don't oh yeah, 1:14:03.000 --> 1:14:07.360 I don't think the Eagles looked dangerous offensive at any 1:14:07.439 --> 1:14:08.040 point in the game. 1:14:08.160 --> 1:14:10.160 I'm not saying I'm saying that they did a mush 1:14:10.240 --> 1:14:13.920 rush in by design, and I think it worked a 1:14:14.000 --> 1:14:17.639 lot of times, you know, whatever they because the coverage 1:14:17.720 --> 1:14:18.479 was so damn good. 1:14:18.640 --> 1:14:21.599 Yeah, no, it's I mean It's another solid performance by 1:14:21.640 --> 1:14:23.040 the defense, and I mean, I you know, I kind 1:14:23.080 --> 1:14:25.120 of expected that. It's just it's I mean, in some 1:14:25.200 --> 1:14:27.120 ways it's the same story, you know. It's it's just 1:14:27.280 --> 1:14:28.560 this team needs to be able to get over the 1:14:28.640 --> 1:14:29.840 hump of the end against good teams. 1:14:29.880 --> 1:14:31.360 And you know, that's maybe the. 1:14:31.400 --> 1:14:33.320 Last I don't want to say it's the last bridge 1:14:33.360 --> 1:14:35.000 to cross, but it's it's one of them. 1:14:35.120 --> 1:14:35.920 It's the last bridge. 1:14:36.840 --> 1:14:40.400 Donnie and Pittsburgh. Hi, Donnie, thanks for calling into this 1:14:40.560 --> 1:14:43.479 episode of the Pulse Game Show presented by DraftKings. What 1:14:43.560 --> 1:14:44.240 do you got, Donnie? 1:14:46.400 --> 1:14:50.120 Guys, Uh, Patriots nation's probably feeling a lot better than 1:14:50.160 --> 1:14:52.439 Steeler's nation out here. My my in laws are a 1:14:52.479 --> 1:14:54.880 bit hurt today. But yeah, that was three rofit fire 1:14:54.960 --> 1:14:57.120 notes here, because I know Hardy likes a chip shaped 1:14:57.720 --> 1:15:01.160 offensive line, played above our expectations, played really well overall. 1:15:01.240 --> 1:15:04.000 You guys said that the one note here those penalties, 1:15:04.040 --> 1:15:05.479 I think knock them on a field goal range. 1:15:05.520 --> 1:15:06.160 That was a big one. 1:15:06.280 --> 1:15:06.479 Yeah. 1:15:07.000 --> 1:15:10.200 On the defensive side, if you take out those points 1:15:10.240 --> 1:15:12.400 off turnovers and just look at how the defense performed 1:15:12.439 --> 1:15:14.439 in a bubble against that Billy offense. That's one of 1:15:14.479 --> 1:15:17.120 the best performances going back to Week one, twenty twenty 1:15:17.160 --> 1:15:19.640 two against that team from anyone in the NFL. So 1:15:19.720 --> 1:15:23.000 that was really impressive there. And then sort of how 1:15:23.080 --> 1:15:25.560 I look at great in the offense to use a 1:15:25.600 --> 1:15:27.439 metaphor here, I'm greating them kind of the way I 1:15:27.680 --> 1:15:30.960 would grade Brady play in this game. They played really 1:15:31.040 --> 1:15:32.680 well to the point that I was convinced they were 1:15:32.720 --> 1:15:34.920 going to win it. So I'm grading them in a 1:15:35.000 --> 1:15:37.280 disappointment just in that regard because they were one for 1:15:37.400 --> 1:15:39.800 three on drives over the fifty yard line late in 1:15:39.840 --> 1:15:42.120 the fourth quarter, but they were right there with a 1:15:42.200 --> 1:15:44.599 chance to close it out. So yeah, buy your Patriots stuck. 1:15:45.080 --> 1:15:45.680 I love the call. 1:15:45.840 --> 1:15:47.720 Yeah, I love the call because I think this is 1:15:47.720 --> 1:15:49.160 gonna be a lot of talk and this is we're 1:15:49.200 --> 1:15:51.880 talking about this off here about oh the offense. You know, 1:15:52.080 --> 1:15:54.960 we get an offense you largely have the offense that 1:15:55.360 --> 1:15:58.200 couldn't finish drives like like last year. You know, we 1:15:58.280 --> 1:15:59.720 talked about the first drive of the game. They come 1:15:59.760 --> 1:16:02.280 out in did some some different things. Moved the ball, 1:16:02.600 --> 1:16:04.840 remember the first drive of the year last year, same thing, 1:16:06.080 --> 1:16:07.840 moved the ball, drove down the field through a pick 1:16:07.880 --> 1:16:10.640 in the end zone. Now, the only difference was this 1:16:10.680 --> 1:16:12.000 pick was returned for a touchdown. 1:16:12.200 --> 1:16:16.880 Right and Okay, offensively there was there was the slow start, 1:16:16.960 --> 1:16:20.479 But this time around, I felt, especially that the play 1:16:20.560 --> 1:16:24.240 calling hamstrung them as much as their actual ability did. 1:16:24.520 --> 1:16:26.760 There were times last year I'm like, man, they don't 1:16:26.840 --> 1:16:30.080 have they don't have the schemes, they don't have the personnel. 1:16:30.560 --> 1:16:33.280 They just they just don't have it. And yards that 1:16:33.360 --> 1:16:36.360 they did gain, you know, they would cut some out. Tonight, 1:16:36.439 --> 1:16:39.479 I felt like, oh, they might actually have a couple 1:16:39.520 --> 1:16:41.280 of guys out there that can make plays, and they 1:16:41.400 --> 1:16:44.960 have the requisite talent to maybe pick up this first 1:16:45.000 --> 1:16:47.000 down and extend this maybe even take the lead here. 1:16:47.400 --> 1:16:50.360 I just hated some of the play calls. Get despised it. 1:16:50.800 --> 1:16:54.000 Well, if you're if you're Bill O'Brien, how do you 1:16:54.600 --> 1:16:58.320 treat you know, Wednesday when you get when everyone comes 1:16:58.439 --> 1:16:58.840 back and. 1:16:59.080 --> 1:17:01.120 You know, hoping when you when stranger back out there? 1:17:01.200 --> 1:17:02.840 No, but like you know, what's your like? Are you 1:17:03.400 --> 1:17:07.120 ripping guys or no? Are you like, hey, you know 1:17:07.400 --> 1:17:09.120 I mean gonna get you know, I don't think that. 1:17:09.240 --> 1:17:11.439 I mean I get what Hardy is saying, and I 1:17:11.479 --> 1:17:11.960 mean I agree. 1:17:12.000 --> 1:17:13.560 There were a lot of you know, screen passes, and 1:17:13.560 --> 1:17:15.599 I'm seeing you know comments, everyone was, you know nuts 1:17:15.640 --> 1:17:17.840 with that. There's running right into the teeth of defense 1:17:17.880 --> 1:17:19.240 when you're not getting anything there. 1:17:20.200 --> 1:17:20.360 You know. 1:17:20.439 --> 1:17:23.360 But I think you highlight, like Paul said, when you 1:17:23.400 --> 1:17:25.479 made that big play downfield, things started to open up, 1:17:25.479 --> 1:17:27.439 you started to click, you started to feel, you know, 1:17:27.600 --> 1:17:29.719 some confidence. I just want to see how it looks 1:17:29.800 --> 1:17:32.400 like when you get two experienced starters, maybe back in 1:17:32.439 --> 1:17:34.280 the middle of that line, and you know, maybe that 1:17:34.760 --> 1:17:36.600 changes some of those screen passes. You know, now we 1:17:36.680 --> 1:17:39.439 have cold strange and athletic first round pick, you know, 1:17:39.560 --> 1:17:42.040 perfect scenario out in front leading the charge. You know, 1:17:42.080 --> 1:17:44.280 in all those screen passes, those kind of things are 1:17:44.400 --> 1:17:47.280 you know the reason maybe for optimism that they can execute. 1:17:47.560 --> 1:17:48.880 Surprised him when you didn't play. 1:17:48.920 --> 1:17:49.679 I'm very surprised. 1:17:49.920 --> 1:17:51.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I thought at least that, 1:17:51.720 --> 1:17:54.160 I mean, we thought that was advanced, that that Strange 1:17:54.200 --> 1:17:57.160 wouldn't because he's been pretty sporadic at practice. 1:17:57.520 --> 1:17:59.320 I thought I'll win you. It was the plant, yeah, 1:17:59.360 --> 1:18:00.720 you know up to week one. 1:18:00.920 --> 1:18:04.599 Yeah, I positive, you know, did the weather has something? 1:18:04.680 --> 1:18:06.880 I just wonder if something happened in practice where he 1:18:07.000 --> 1:18:08.400 got a little setbacks possible. 1:18:08.600 --> 1:18:10.320 He's been on the injury report the whole time, though, 1:18:10.360 --> 1:18:11.200 you know, I mean. 1:18:11.200 --> 1:18:13.360 So, I mean, it's hard to tell, but so hard 1:18:13.400 --> 1:18:15.120 Do you want to hear a quick line from Nick 1:18:15.200 --> 1:18:16.839 Siriani's postgame press. 1:18:16.720 --> 1:18:18.439 Cond Oh, he's not too much of a hard on 1:18:18.680 --> 1:18:19.240 the sideline? 1:18:19.360 --> 1:18:19.559 Is he. 1:18:21.439 --> 1:18:24.479 Don't at players, and we don't watch that stuff, so 1:18:24.560 --> 1:18:26.760 we can't see it. He's right there in front of us, 1:18:26.760 --> 1:18:28.320 so it's like he's kind of hard to miss. 1:18:28.360 --> 1:18:31.520 And he's like yelling at the Eagles or the Patriots, 1:18:31.680 --> 1:18:34.680 yelling at Patriots. Yes, he's Hawks doing the Bill thing. 1:18:34.840 --> 1:18:38.960 Hawks starts yelling at derecation. One of my time that 1:18:39.280 --> 1:18:42.479 I was you see the scoreboard, find me after the game. 1:18:44.320 --> 1:18:46.080 That was one of my all time favorite Bill moments. 1:18:47.240 --> 1:18:49.679 Second quarter, they got a little run heavy and gotten 1:18:49.680 --> 1:18:51.240 a rut. It was just hard. 1:18:51.360 --> 1:19:00.200 We weren't winning on first down. Dang it, car Are 1:19:01.320 --> 1:19:01.800 It's fine. 1:19:03.120 --> 1:19:05.560 I didn't keep track. I don't have the ammunition to 1:19:05.600 --> 1:19:08.400 bring to the argument. I was literally asking a question earlier. 1:19:08.560 --> 1:19:08.880 That's all. 1:19:10.280 --> 1:19:12.679 How about Spee in Fresno speed? 1:19:12.760 --> 1:19:13.439 What's up, buddy? 1:19:14.600 --> 1:19:18.400 I yeah, I feel I'm a little bit on a 1:19:18.400 --> 1:19:22.560 different pagement. But I'm oddly happy and hopeful and optimistic 1:19:22.680 --> 1:19:26.679 of this. I mean everybody seems kind of glum and pissed. 1:19:27.240 --> 1:19:31.760 I mean they they look I guess my expectations might 1:19:31.800 --> 1:19:35.000 have been miscalibrated. I mean I thought you saw from 1:19:35.080 --> 1:19:37.800 maybe for Mac, like he played like the crap and 1:19:37.960 --> 1:19:41.360 sailing balls in the first quarter and then you know, 1:19:41.680 --> 1:19:42.439 second quarter on. 1:19:42.600 --> 1:19:44.880 The fourth quarter, Yeah, he's not playing perfect, but. 1:19:44.960 --> 1:19:46.479 I thought that there was that sort of resilience that 1:19:46.520 --> 1:19:48.200 we're hoping to see from in ever since he kind 1:19:48.200 --> 1:19:49.040 of came into the league. 1:19:50.120 --> 1:19:53.519 See, but don't lump glum in with pissed. I think 1:19:53.720 --> 1:19:55.960 people are going to be more pissed than glum. I 1:19:56.000 --> 1:19:57.720 think they're pissed at the way the game ended. I 1:19:57.800 --> 1:20:00.120 think they're pissed at at the slow start. But I 1:20:00.360 --> 1:20:02.880 don't think people are depressed about this. I think the 1:20:02.960 --> 1:20:06.439 Patriots gave you plenty of reasons tonight to show you 1:20:06.640 --> 1:20:08.360 that this season will be different. 1:20:09.160 --> 1:20:11.400 Like you could have gone out of this game with 1:20:11.520 --> 1:20:14.160 like dread. Oh god, We've got sixteen more of these. 1:20:14.640 --> 1:20:17.040 But I'm excited to play next week. I want to 1:20:17.040 --> 1:20:19.240 see where do we go from here? You know, That's 1:20:19.320 --> 1:20:20.640 what I come out of this game with. 1:20:21.080 --> 1:20:23.080 You know, now, it's good, except. 1:20:23.240 --> 1:20:26.120 The one thing that just like stands out, and it's 1:20:26.200 --> 1:20:28.559 kind of the continuation of everything that I've I've been 1:20:28.680 --> 1:20:30.800 kind of pessimistic about. Is Mac the guy sort of 1:20:30.800 --> 1:20:34.400 stuff Like, I just think his accuracy, in his velocity 1:20:35.000 --> 1:20:39.080 in certain kind of critical pivotal moments are always going 1:20:39.160 --> 1:20:42.320 to be just not there, and that's. 1:20:42.160 --> 1:20:42.640 Just going to be. 1:20:43.479 --> 1:20:45.599 I don't want to be pessimistic after what I thought 1:20:45.760 --> 1:20:48.439 was something that kind of verified that maybe he has 1:20:48.560 --> 1:20:51.280 some gumption in there to pull it out. I know, 1:20:51.880 --> 1:20:55.240 like Mike said, it didn't actually happen, but I don't know. 1:20:55.280 --> 1:20:57.160 I thought it was more than to be. Maybe I 1:20:57.240 --> 1:20:58.040 just had bad expects. 1:20:58.080 --> 1:20:59.720 But like the touchdown to Bourne in the back of 1:20:59.760 --> 1:21:02.160 the end that he zipped that in, that one had 1:21:02.240 --> 1:21:04.280 some heating, you know, and it's like the less he 1:21:04.439 --> 1:21:06.680 has to think the perfect. 1:21:07.800 --> 1:21:12.040 Not he can't do it Anti on the back foot. 1:21:12.120 --> 1:21:16.160 Bang, he's fine running turning, trying to get back across 1:21:16.200 --> 1:21:16.920 his body. 1:21:19.240 --> 1:21:22.000 And outside the numbers is an issue. I don't think 1:21:22.040 --> 1:21:24.040 he completed a pass outside the numbers in the game. 1:21:24.160 --> 1:21:26.680 Thanks speaking, except for the one that almost. 1:21:27.920 --> 1:21:31.120 You can tell that you're the past. The booty should 1:21:31.120 --> 1:21:34.320 have been a catch. It was a perfect pass, okay, 1:21:34.479 --> 1:21:36.880 but it wasn't. I know, but that's a rookie who 1:21:37.040 --> 1:21:39.000 does didn't have control of his feet yet, but that 1:21:39.160 --> 1:21:44.720 was a perfect pass. Good speed you get behind him. 1:21:44.800 --> 1:21:46.479 You can tell is a real part of the show 1:21:46.560 --> 1:21:50.559 because we all just talk over all these all these bumps. Yeah, yeah, 1:21:50.640 --> 1:21:51.479 I thought it was. 1:21:51.520 --> 1:21:53.160 An okay performance from act today. 1:21:53.600 --> 1:21:53.960 I do. 1:21:54.160 --> 1:21:56.120 I don't think he was the reason why they lost. 1:21:56.520 --> 1:21:58.400 I can't. I wouldn't be minus. 1:21:58.479 --> 1:22:00.320 I think he was okay today, And I think Mike 1:22:00.400 --> 1:22:02.400 said it perfectly when he when you talked about Mac 1:22:02.439 --> 1:22:04.280 at the start of the show, Freddy before you joined us, 1:22:06.240 --> 1:22:09.320 really tough circumstances to sort of rebound from, and he 1:22:09.400 --> 1:22:13.120 showed a lot of toughness, both physical and mental in 1:22:13.240 --> 1:22:15.720 doing so. And I thought he was a part of that. 1:22:16.320 --> 1:22:17.880 I just thought there were a lot of loose throws 1:22:17.920 --> 1:22:20.000 today that he got away with. Again, I don't think 1:22:20.000 --> 1:22:21.679 you could throw the ball like that on a consistent 1:22:21.760 --> 1:22:24.680 basis and live to tell about it. All right. 1:22:24.680 --> 1:22:27.559 I want to get to Sam and Halifax in the UK, Sam, 1:22:27.680 --> 1:22:30.599 thanks for calling in when you got Sam, Hey. 1:22:30.520 --> 1:22:31.320 How's going guys? 1:22:31.439 --> 1:22:31.639 Good? 1:22:32.720 --> 1:22:35.320 Sorry cause directional confusion earlier. I just want to say, 1:22:35.479 --> 1:22:39.439 you know, I think Mac, you know, did all right, 1:22:39.600 --> 1:22:42.880 but I I did to agree that he didn't hit 1:22:43.040 --> 1:22:45.760 the guys he should have. But at the same time, 1:22:47.160 --> 1:22:52.000 looking at you know, Jalen aj Brown and DeVante Smith 1:22:52.760 --> 1:22:55.120 and then Mac trying to hit Keisham Buzzi on the 1:22:55.200 --> 1:22:59.479 sidelines and you know, Hunter Henry, is is there a 1:22:59.520 --> 1:23:03.560 middle gred where Mac can try and make throws on 1:23:03.640 --> 1:23:06.519 the sidelines to guys who can kind of compete in 1:23:06.600 --> 1:23:07.040 the league. 1:23:10.000 --> 1:23:11.920 So are you saying that if they had a little 1:23:11.960 --> 1:23:13.960 better quality receivers there you go? 1:23:14.160 --> 1:23:19.120 Yeah, I think it's it's the first postgame show. 1:23:18.960 --> 1:23:19.559 It's definitely. 1:23:19.880 --> 1:23:24.200 But is there is there a league where the Patriots 1:23:24.960 --> 1:23:30.000 are functional offense because their guys can make the plays 1:23:30.040 --> 1:23:32.800 and get the feed in where Mac and hit hit 1:23:32.840 --> 1:23:34.320 the routes at the right time. 1:23:34.520 --> 1:23:36.680 No, I think you know what, I I don't think 1:23:36.720 --> 1:23:39.920 that's Mac's scapegoat talk there, Sam, I think it's a 1:23:39.960 --> 1:23:43.800 perfectly valid question. I mean, do the Patriots magically uh 1:23:44.520 --> 1:23:47.639 acquire a true number one receiver in the last week 1:23:47.720 --> 1:23:49.160 or two or is it the same thing that we've 1:23:49.200 --> 1:23:51.519 been talking about all off season. Is there a true, 1:23:51.600 --> 1:23:53.800 dedicated number one that other teams have to plan for 1:23:54.240 --> 1:23:55.120 every single snap? 1:23:55.320 --> 1:23:56.920 That's true, they don't. They do not have a game 1:23:56.960 --> 1:24:00.439 breaking receiver. They don't have I would agree with that nothing. 1:24:00.439 --> 1:24:03.479 And it's okay to want one another underrated play call 1:24:05.920 --> 1:24:08.680 the last drive, third and thirteen they get sacked. The 1:24:08.720 --> 1:24:10.920 one time they got sacked, set up a third and thirteen. 1:24:10.960 --> 1:24:17.760 What was the call screen? Yeah, two yards for Stevenson 1:24:17.840 --> 1:24:20.559 to set up fourth and eleven. I just I mean, 1:24:20.600 --> 1:24:22.880 it's just so many screens today. One worked. I mean 1:24:22.920 --> 1:24:24.080 they must have called ten screens. 1:24:24.320 --> 1:24:26.720 I mean, you understand work, the theory behind why they 1:24:26.840 --> 1:24:27.000 do it. 1:24:27.040 --> 1:24:29.280 You got an aggressive front trying to get them, you know, 1:24:29.439 --> 1:24:31.479 to to not have to worry about your blockers trying 1:24:31.520 --> 1:24:32.840 to hold up. You're just trying to say, all right, 1:24:32.840 --> 1:24:34.160 hold them for a second, let them get by, and 1:24:34.280 --> 1:24:35.880 then you know, get out. I get that just mentioned 1:24:35.920 --> 1:24:39.040 one thing, and there it is. Yeah, highlights, It's amazing already. 1:24:39.080 --> 1:24:41.599 You don't pay those guys enough. John in New Hampshire 1:24:41.640 --> 1:24:42.080 emailed in. 1:24:42.160 --> 1:24:44.200 He said, I really don't get the fourth down tries 1:24:44.520 --> 1:24:48.040 when the score was twenty two to fourteen. I'm with 1:24:48.200 --> 1:24:49.960 you on that, and I can't wait to hear Bill 1:24:50.000 --> 1:24:52.559 Belichick if he does, in fact say there was six 1:24:52.680 --> 1:24:55.599 minutes left, because as Bill or is, Paul already checked, 1:24:55.640 --> 1:24:58.160 and I went back and checked to myself fourth and eight, 1:24:58.479 --> 1:25:04.439 eleven thirty one on the clock, fourth and three. I 1:25:04.560 --> 1:25:05.519 just had it here in front of me. 1:25:05.560 --> 1:25:05.880 What was it? 1:25:05.960 --> 1:25:06.120 Ten? 1:25:06.600 --> 1:25:08.720 There was ten? There was ten thirteen left on the 1:25:08.760 --> 1:25:11.040 third town play. By the time they snapped it on 1:25:11.120 --> 1:25:12.719 fourth down, it was just under ten. 1:25:13.880 --> 1:25:17.360 Right, right, So I looked that up earlier. Okay, let's 1:25:17.400 --> 1:25:19.640 see what the head coach has to say about it. 1:25:19.760 --> 1:25:22.320 And this is brought to you by our partner, Microsoft. Surface, 1:25:22.400 --> 1:25:25.920 the official sideline technology provider and laptop of the NFL 1:25:26.040 --> 1:25:28.560 and the New England Patriots, provides players and coaches with 1:25:28.640 --> 1:25:31.160 the tools to succeed both on and off the field. 1:25:31.240 --> 1:25:34.320 Check out the powerful Surface Pro nine, combining the power 1:25:34.320 --> 1:25:36.920 of a laptop with the flexibility of a tablet at 1:25:37.040 --> 1:25:37.920 Surface dot com. 1:25:38.320 --> 1:25:42.320 Here's the head coach, go back to work here, try 1:25:42.320 --> 1:25:44.240 to correct some of the things that we obviously need 1:25:44.320 --> 1:25:45.040 to do better, and. 1:25:46.840 --> 1:25:47.640 Just move on from there. 1:25:51.080 --> 1:25:51.479 Questions. 1:25:51.520 --> 1:25:54.360 We'll pass a mic to you, Hi, Bell, Can you 1:25:54.439 --> 1:25:56.240 just speak to how you thought Christian Gonzalez did in 1:25:56.320 --> 1:25:57.160 his debut tonight. 1:25:58.600 --> 1:26:00.400 Yeah, we'll take a load of the film on it, buddy, 1:26:01.439 --> 1:26:03.280 And I'm sure everybody had some good plays and had 1:26:03.320 --> 1:26:05.439 some plays they'd like to have back. That was probably 1:26:05.479 --> 1:26:07.680 the same for every player and coach participate. 1:26:07.280 --> 1:26:07.680 In the game. 1:26:12.120 --> 1:26:14.720 Bill, I believe a career high pass attempts for Mac 1:26:14.800 --> 1:26:18.160 Jones tonight. What did his per foremance and the success 1:26:18.240 --> 1:26:20.879 of the passing game show you in terms of confidence 1:26:20.960 --> 1:26:23.559 in his ability to with the offense and be someone 1:26:23.600 --> 1:26:25.639 who can carry the offense in the passing game. 1:26:26.760 --> 1:26:28.960 Yeah, we have confidence in all our players and confidence 1:26:28.960 --> 1:26:30.599 that everything we do with the running game, passing game, 1:26:30.720 --> 1:26:33.120 special teams, defense, we have confidence. 1:26:32.760 --> 1:26:33.160 In all of them. 1:26:36.680 --> 1:26:39.280 Bill, early fourth quarter, fourth and three from the seventeen, 1:26:39.320 --> 1:26:40.760 you have to go for it instead of kicking the 1:26:40.800 --> 1:26:41.240 field goal. 1:26:41.600 --> 1:26:42.799 What went into that decision? 1:26:43.640 --> 1:26:45.000 It was the best decision for the team. 1:26:46.479 --> 1:26:48.400 In hindsight, do you wish you had kick more field 1:26:48.439 --> 1:26:49.400 goals in this one? 1:26:51.160 --> 1:26:53.160 Made the best decision we could at didn't know we'd 1:26:53.200 --> 1:26:56.680 be down there, you know, multiple times six minutes to 1:26:56.680 --> 1:26:59.680 go in the game. I don't know, Big kicked them 1:26:59.720 --> 1:27:00.479 street asking them not. 1:27:00.520 --> 1:27:01.000 Going to go for it. 1:27:05.720 --> 1:27:08.880 Bill, you guys dug yourself a hole tonight, but then 1:27:08.920 --> 1:27:10.439 you were able to get out of it pretty much 1:27:10.479 --> 1:27:12.760 and and your team came back. What did you learn 1:27:12.800 --> 1:27:14.559 about your team and their ability to try to come 1:27:14.600 --> 1:27:16.479 back tonight? Obviously falling a little bit short. 1:27:19.760 --> 1:27:26.120 That we didn't play good enough to win. Yeah, did 1:27:26.240 --> 1:27:27.960 enough things to make a competitive but not enough to win. 1:27:28.160 --> 1:27:29.439 Got to coach better. You gotta play better. 1:27:34.960 --> 1:27:37.320 Coach down two starting offensive linemen, one of the best 1:27:37.360 --> 1:27:39.800 pass rushes in the NFL, and Mac did not get 1:27:39.880 --> 1:27:41.920 sacked until the final three minutes of the game. How 1:27:41.960 --> 1:27:44.519 do you evaluate how the offensive line played overall today? 1:27:46.120 --> 1:27:46.280 Yeah? 1:27:46.320 --> 1:27:49.560 Again, at think overall, we were, you know, played competitively. 1:27:50.920 --> 1:27:52.360 We had some good plays and then we had a 1:27:52.400 --> 1:27:55.679 couple of plays that you know could have been better, obviously, 1:27:55.840 --> 1:27:58.400 so a couple holding penalties. You know, we had some 1:27:58.520 --> 1:28:03.160 key penalties and obviously and overs and so just just 1:28:03.280 --> 1:28:03.559 need to do. 1:28:03.560 --> 1:28:04.120 A better job. 1:28:05.640 --> 1:28:08.760 But what's but what's your upshot on offensive execution in 1:28:08.800 --> 1:28:09.160 the game? 1:28:09.520 --> 1:28:11.240 And would you not like it? 1:28:11.320 --> 1:28:13.600 But what you saw and what sorry. 1:28:15.080 --> 1:28:18.680 Offensive execution in the game upshot on on what you saw, 1:28:18.840 --> 1:28:19.280 and it's a lot. 1:28:19.240 --> 1:28:22.080 Of things we need to work on. Do better, be 1:28:22.240 --> 1:28:22.839 more consistent. 1:28:27.720 --> 1:28:31.559 Seemed like offensively placed in the second quarter. 1:28:32.080 --> 1:28:34.360 What did you see that allowed the offense to have 1:28:34.560 --> 1:28:36.599 more success in that second quarter? 1:28:38.120 --> 1:28:39.679 Better execution, better timing? 1:28:46.479 --> 1:28:49.880 Well the hit that Jabrol Peppers landed to get you 1:28:49.920 --> 1:28:51.360 guys the ball back at the end of the game, 1:28:51.400 --> 1:28:52.360 what did you think of that play? 1:28:53.960 --> 1:28:58.400 Great contact play pep sent explosive player. You know, it's 1:28:58.400 --> 1:29:01.680 a great hit, ball popped right out. Really it this 1:29:01.760 --> 1:29:04.639 great tackle. I thought we for the most part tackled 1:29:04.640 --> 1:29:07.080 pretty well tonight. But I mean always roun for improvement. 1:29:10.960 --> 1:29:11.200 Bill. 1:29:11.280 --> 1:29:17.080 It seemed early on pretty conservative offensive approach. Also in 1:29:17.200 --> 1:29:20.920 time with the weather being harshest, did the rain and 1:29:21.080 --> 1:29:23.439 the conditions affect the way the offense was called early on? 1:29:23.680 --> 1:29:26.200 Appear to push the ball more downf. 1:29:27.360 --> 1:29:30.559 I mean, ay, right, we didn'tlaunched a lot of deep balls, 1:29:30.600 --> 1:29:31.960 but there weren't a lot of those anyway. 1:29:33.640 --> 1:29:34.680 But yeah, I mean it's a little bit of a 1:29:34.720 --> 1:29:35.720 factor in early in the game. 1:29:35.800 --> 1:29:48.760 Yeah, Kendrick Bourne seemed almost to be a lifeline for 1:29:48.880 --> 1:29:55.000 Mac tonight. Two huge touchdowns. Is bringing him back into 1:29:55.040 --> 1:29:57.720 the fold more and more something that you're looking to 1:29:57.760 --> 1:29:58.400 do this season. 1:30:00.200 --> 1:30:02.960 I thought all of our skill players are productive, so 1:30:04.200 --> 1:30:08.240 I thought they all are, all the receivers, the tight ends, 1:30:08.560 --> 1:30:12.360 facts so tie. So I mean a good production from 1:30:12.400 --> 1:30:12.920 all those guys. 1:30:17.439 --> 1:30:20.559 Bill, what did you see from Christian Gonzales tonight? 1:30:21.360 --> 1:30:22.599 We thought that was asked earlier. 1:30:23.040 --> 1:30:24.400 My apologies, no worries. 1:30:32.240 --> 1:30:35.320 Bill Hurts averaged about five point two yards per a time, 1:30:35.439 --> 1:30:37.960 struggled to run the ball as well. Just the overall 1:30:38.040 --> 1:30:40.240 job that you did on him. I know, gave up 1:30:41.200 --> 1:30:43.800 essentially a score because the offense and another one after 1:30:43.840 --> 1:30:45.439 the turnover. So you had to be pretty pleased with 1:30:45.479 --> 1:30:45.800 that group. 1:30:48.560 --> 1:30:50.760 Yeah, I mean we were. It was competitive. 1:30:54.320 --> 1:30:56.160 You know, some things we could have done better and 1:30:56.560 --> 1:30:58.479 you know, but yeah, I've got a touchdown on a 1:30:58.520 --> 1:30:59.160 short field and. 1:31:06.479 --> 1:31:09.880 Bill on offensive fourth downs. Did you did you have 1:31:09.960 --> 1:31:10.840 a question about that one? 1:31:11.960 --> 1:31:12.000 No? 1:31:12.280 --> 1:31:14.880 Okay, So we hit some, we didn't hit some. So 1:31:16.560 --> 1:31:18.559 you guys were one of four. So I just wonder 1:31:18.600 --> 1:31:21.480 I felt like you were facing a long, long situations 1:31:21.520 --> 1:31:24.720 and how did you guys, how did you guys feel 1:31:24.760 --> 1:31:25.840 like you executed in those. 1:31:28.200 --> 1:31:30.639 Go four on fourth down, you need need your best execution. 1:31:30.920 --> 1:31:42.360 So hey, Bill, I know you rotated the receivers throughout 1:31:42.360 --> 1:31:44.120 the game, and all those rotations are made in the 1:31:44.160 --> 1:31:46.639 best interest to the team. Specific to the last drive 1:31:47.400 --> 1:31:50.600 Kai Shan and to Mario playing over Juju, what was 1:31:50.640 --> 1:31:52.000 it thinking behind that move? 1:31:53.000 --> 1:31:57.880 Yeah, again, we had different groups, different rotations, so we're 1:31:57.920 --> 1:31:58.880 good with whoever's in there. 1:32:01.640 --> 1:32:06.280 All right, thanks, All right, there's the head coach wrapping 1:32:06.320 --> 1:32:09.679 things up there. In his post game press conference, two 1:32:09.760 --> 1:32:13.280 Gonzales questions tonight, which, by the way, for as good 1:32:13.280 --> 1:32:16.040 as he played, I I think you have to think 1:32:16.080 --> 1:32:20.840 about the expectations. What were your expectations for Gonzales just 1:32:20.960 --> 1:32:22.640 you personally do to. 1:32:22.640 --> 1:32:25.120 Play every snap and hopefully not get toasted too bad. 1:32:25.160 --> 1:32:26.960 I mean that was Did he play better than that? 1:32:27.200 --> 1:32:28.960 Yeah, he got a couple of plays. 1:32:29.000 --> 1:32:30.720 Think he exceeded my expect Yeah, that's it. 1:32:30.840 --> 1:32:33.439 That's it, and that's fine. I mean, that's that's good. 1:32:33.680 --> 1:32:35.560 I gotta I gotta key on. White's the one that 1:32:35.600 --> 1:32:37.160 I kind of want to look again at. How much 1:32:37.240 --> 1:32:38.880 did he really play? But I mean there were a 1:32:38.880 --> 1:32:40.800 couple of times where I felt like he was he 1:32:40.920 --> 1:32:44.000 was coming hard off the corner and you know, just 1:32:44.080 --> 1:32:46.040 I think he gave Lan Johnson some trible too. So 1:32:46.520 --> 1:32:48.120 I don't know, not one that I'm willing to like 1:32:48.360 --> 1:32:50.519 trumpet right now, but but somebody would like to look. 1:32:50.360 --> 1:32:53.360 At People were saying, oh, he's really playing well like. 1:32:54.920 --> 1:32:56.519 Pass rutches. But I don't know if that's enough to like, 1:32:57.080 --> 1:32:59.360 you know, sound start the parade yet. But but but 1:32:59.439 --> 1:33:01.599 I mean, he popped a couple times and it didn't 1:33:01.600 --> 1:33:02.360 make a lot of impact. 1:33:02.400 --> 1:33:07.400 Though Adam and Dublin emailing said defense is close to elite, 1:33:07.880 --> 1:33:09.320 confirming something that we knew. 1:33:09.320 --> 1:33:12.800 Would you say that, sure, I mean, ish, I don't know. 1:33:12.880 --> 1:33:16.320 They're not elite yet, but but they're good defense there 1:33:16.560 --> 1:33:18.760 and if they keep getting better they will be. They 1:33:18.880 --> 1:33:22.760 played well today relatively speaking for twenty twenty three NFL. 1:33:22.600 --> 1:33:25.560 Based on how they've gotten pantsed by mobile quarterbacks in 1:33:25.600 --> 1:33:28.320 the past, I would say this is an encouraging performance 1:33:28.360 --> 1:33:31.120 against you know, a good offense. It still wasn't enough, 1:33:31.200 --> 1:33:33.559 as Bill Kinna said, but I think there's a lot 1:33:33.640 --> 1:33:35.920 to you know, feel like, all right, maybe these guys 1:33:36.000 --> 1:33:38.000 can be better than the group was last year that 1:33:38.040 --> 1:33:39.320 couldn't quite get over that hume. 1:33:39.320 --> 1:33:41.479 And it is funny, like they forced the fumble there 1:33:41.520 --> 1:33:44.760 at the end. But I and that's great obviously, but 1:33:45.080 --> 1:33:47.000 I would like to have seen what you're talking about. 1:33:47.280 --> 1:33:50.040 Could they have come up with a stop there? Mm hmm, yeah, 1:33:50.240 --> 1:33:53.439 you know, yeah, you know the other one. Like I 1:33:53.479 --> 1:33:56.200 think you made the point Fred about the conservative play calling. 1:33:56.600 --> 1:33:58.599 You know they I don't think Hurts had to play 1:33:58.680 --> 1:34:01.800 under center all game until first and second down on 1:34:01.920 --> 1:34:05.639 their last drive from midfield, and they just had straight handoffs. 1:34:05.680 --> 1:34:08.360 I thought that was uninspired, especially for a team that 1:34:08.439 --> 1:34:09.920 was thinking about going for it on fourth and two, 1:34:10.120 --> 1:34:12.720 which I thought was insane. By the way, we've spent 1:34:12.760 --> 1:34:15.000 a lot of time wondering about why not kicking field goals? 1:34:15.080 --> 1:34:17.640 How do you not punt on fourth and it was 1:34:17.720 --> 1:34:20.880 a long two? Just pin it down even if you 1:34:20.920 --> 1:34:22.800 got a touchback twenty yards? 1:34:22.800 --> 1:34:23.200 I don't know. 1:34:23.479 --> 1:34:24.439 Yeah, yeah, dumb. 1:34:25.160 --> 1:34:28.320 Nathan and Monterey Mexico said, Am I wrong to feel 1:34:28.400 --> 1:34:31.840 this Pads team is different now? He says a bunch 1:34:31.840 --> 1:34:35.800 of stuff, But he said they scored and came up short, 1:34:37.000 --> 1:34:39.560 came up just short twice in the red zone? So 1:34:39.680 --> 1:34:41.759 am I wrong to think this Pads team is different? 1:34:41.840 --> 1:34:41.960 Now? 1:34:42.600 --> 1:34:45.000 When you bring that up. I'm more inclined to think, no, 1:34:45.240 --> 1:34:47.519 that some of these problems from last year still exist. 1:34:47.760 --> 1:34:48.679 That's what I'm talking about. 1:34:48.720 --> 1:34:49.920 Like I focus in. 1:34:50.080 --> 1:34:52.559 I think we are content to say, oh, it looked 1:34:52.640 --> 1:34:55.760 so different today. The first drive they went right down 1:34:55.800 --> 1:34:57.880 the field last year against Miami. It was a great drive. 1:34:57.960 --> 1:34:59.280 It was one of the best drives of the first 1:34:59.280 --> 1:35:01.680 half of the season, but it ultimately ended on a 1:35:01.760 --> 1:35:04.040 Xavi and Howard pick in the end zone. The first 1:35:04.120 --> 1:35:07.280 Dravet looked really nice today. It ultimately ended on a 1:35:07.360 --> 1:35:12.080 bad throw deflection picked six, Like you get down in 1:35:12.160 --> 1:35:14.040 the red zone. I was like all ready to talk 1:35:14.040 --> 1:35:16.600 about the red zone improvements because they were two for 1:35:16.680 --> 1:35:19.200 two in the first half, you know, and then they 1:35:19.280 --> 1:35:21.880 had a couple of opportunities, you know, when the game 1:35:21.920 --> 1:35:23.280 is on the line and you can't get it done. 1:35:23.439 --> 1:35:24.799 Yeah. Night steps. 1:35:25.000 --> 1:35:27.320 George and Virginia said, same old story. You're scoring more 1:35:27.360 --> 1:35:29.240 than twenty one points and you beat the Pats. 1:35:30.080 --> 1:35:32.360 I mean, I twenty five is the number. 1:35:33.120 --> 1:35:33.559 Field goal. 1:35:34.520 --> 1:35:36.040 Twenty five is the number. I mean, it is what 1:35:36.120 --> 1:35:39.280 it is. They've never won a game with mac Jones 1:35:39.320 --> 1:35:40.960 when the other team scores twenty five or more. 1:35:41.160 --> 1:35:42.920 Yeah, that's the number. 1:35:42.960 --> 1:35:44.920 And I really thought today I thought today was I'm 1:35:45.000 --> 1:35:45.320 telling you. 1:35:45.560 --> 1:35:46.080 I thought it was. 1:35:46.240 --> 1:35:47.080 I thought they were gonna win. 1:35:47.160 --> 1:35:49.000 It just felt like I thought I had a lot 1:35:49.080 --> 1:35:50.479 of faith that they were going to win the game 1:35:50.520 --> 1:35:53.040 at the end, especially when when Papers forces. 1:35:52.760 --> 1:35:54.639 The fumble, right, I sure did. 1:35:55.000 --> 1:35:58.599 Talent level separation and readiness preparation made Belichick look bad. 1:35:58.680 --> 1:36:00.599 What good is having the greatest coach of all time 1:36:00.800 --> 1:36:04.120 if his current teams are poorly coached and prepared. That 1:36:04.280 --> 1:36:07.559 is from Johnny and Wisconsin. I don't think anybody had 1:36:07.600 --> 1:36:08.960 Belichick on the good list tonight. 1:36:09.200 --> 1:36:13.200 But I I've been very critical, but you know, I 1:36:13.360 --> 1:36:15.280 have to give him some credit for the defensive game plan. 1:36:15.400 --> 1:36:18.000 Yeah, I will say that the team didn't look ill prepared. 1:36:18.520 --> 1:36:20.000 It was really more about the play calling. 1:36:20.560 --> 1:36:22.840 I thought there was some some play calls offensively, and 1:36:22.920 --> 1:36:23.719 that's Bill O'Brien. 1:36:25.160 --> 1:36:26.640 But I have the decision to go for it on 1:36:26.720 --> 1:36:29.639 the fourth round. The decisions on kicking kicking, and that's 1:36:29.680 --> 1:36:34.400 Bill's check. But what about the decisions that they made defensively? 1:36:35.080 --> 1:36:37.400 They obviously did something. They only gave up two hundred 1:36:37.400 --> 1:36:38.000 and fifty yards. 1:36:38.080 --> 1:36:40.360 Not a lot of defenses have done that to that offense. 1:36:40.400 --> 1:36:41.920 I mean, since he had that in the first quarter 1:36:42.000 --> 1:36:45.000 of the game last year, that was a good defensive 1:36:45.040 --> 1:36:47.160 performance pretty much start to finish. 1:36:47.800 --> 1:36:49.960 Before we hear from Mac Jones, Let's talk to Josh 1:36:50.040 --> 1:36:52.840 in Arizona on this episode of the Patriots Post game Show, 1:36:52.880 --> 1:36:58.599 which is presented by DraftKings. Josh, what's going on, gentlemen? Good? 1:36:58.640 --> 1:36:59.040 Hey, Josh. 1:37:00.760 --> 1:37:03.200 I'm looking at I'm just taking a second here and 1:37:03.280 --> 1:37:05.800 looking at the box scores, and I'm hearing so many 1:37:05.880 --> 1:37:09.599 negative comments that it kind of blows me away. I'm 1:37:09.640 --> 1:37:11.640 looking at three hundred and eighty two yards for the 1:37:11.680 --> 1:37:16.200 Patriots versus two fifty one for the defending NFC champion Eagles. 1:37:17.439 --> 1:37:20.200 I'm seeing three oh six for passing yards, and I'm 1:37:20.200 --> 1:37:24.280 hearing everyone bag on Mac Jones, who is dealing with 1:37:24.640 --> 1:37:27.120 arguably the worst wide receiving corps in the league. 1:37:27.640 --> 1:37:29.160 Who's backing on Mac Jones? 1:37:30.320 --> 1:37:31.960 It sounded like just about everyone. 1:37:32.320 --> 1:37:34.439 Well, I mean, first half, he didn't play that well, 1:37:35.280 --> 1:37:36.080 Mike picked it. 1:37:36.120 --> 1:37:41.120 Up first good, maybe the first quarter, but I've heard 1:37:41.240 --> 1:37:45.919 more negative than positive. And he's playing against the defending 1:37:46.280 --> 1:37:50.840 NFC champions, a team that led to almost I think 1:37:51.240 --> 1:37:54.360 got close to setting the NFL record for Sackbut. 1:37:54.000 --> 1:37:56.640 Yeah, I think that there's some people that were on him, 1:37:56.640 --> 1:38:00.960 but I think most people were were by the way 1:38:01.080 --> 1:38:01.760 he bounced back. 1:38:02.080 --> 1:38:05.720 At this point, generally speaking, are suffering from Tom Brady and. 1:38:05.920 --> 1:38:08.160 I don't think anybody's bagging on Mac Jones today. But 1:38:08.200 --> 1:38:10.000 I also don't think it was a great performance, if 1:38:10.040 --> 1:38:12.080 that makes any sense. Yeah, I don't think Max why 1:38:12.160 --> 1:38:14.479 you lost today. He said that about an hour ago. 1:38:15.560 --> 1:38:17.680 But he also is the reason why you didn't win, 1:38:17.760 --> 1:38:20.400 if that makes sense. He had opportunities with the ball 1:38:20.479 --> 1:38:22.200 inside the twenty yard line and couldn't get it in. 1:38:23.200 --> 1:38:26.080 I haven't heard anyone mention twelve personnel? 1:38:27.520 --> 1:38:28.080 What about it? 1:38:29.360 --> 1:38:30.599 It wasn't used almost at all. 1:38:31.240 --> 1:38:34.040 Okay? Did you think that they played well today or not? 1:38:34.800 --> 1:38:36.960 You went out and you get Kisaki. You don't go 1:38:37.080 --> 1:38:40.479 get him to back up Hunter Henry. You go out 1:38:40.520 --> 1:38:41.519 and you get him to play twelve? 1:38:41.720 --> 1:38:43.080 Well, okay, okay? 1:38:44.040 --> 1:38:45.759 So what did you think of Max performance today? 1:38:46.960 --> 1:38:50.200 I think Mac Mac did a great job all things considered. 1:38:50.360 --> 1:38:52.840 Okay, So why are we complaining about the personnel? Then? 1:38:53.400 --> 1:38:55.280 If Mac played really well with what they did, what 1:38:55.640 --> 1:38:57.640 did that not work, no no, No. 1:38:57.960 --> 1:39:00.360 Twelve personnel would have put him in a better position 1:39:00.960 --> 1:39:02.680 to be able to be handing the ball off more 1:39:02.720 --> 1:39:03.800 and get more production out of. 1:39:03.800 --> 1:39:06.960 The run game. Oh so, in other words, we wanted 1:39:07.000 --> 1:39:09.920 to decrease match role in the game. Okay, like that 1:39:10.000 --> 1:39:10.599 one was all. 1:39:10.520 --> 1:39:13.639 Over that well, they brought in extra lineman a couple 1:39:13.720 --> 1:39:17.680 of times. I mean, yeah, I listen, I'm I'm I'm 1:39:17.760 --> 1:39:20.920 with It wasn't a bad game by Mac. And like 1:39:21.040 --> 1:39:23.639 I said, I'm excited to see next week. 1:39:23.720 --> 1:39:26.400 I feel better about Max Jones right now than I 1:39:26.520 --> 1:39:28.400 did after this whole summer. Now, I'm not saying that 1:39:28.479 --> 1:39:31.320 I'm saying he's a top three quarterback and leaving the Superstar, 1:39:31.439 --> 1:39:33.880 but based on what we've seen over the last couple 1:39:33.880 --> 1:39:36.200 of years with him and over the summer, like I 1:39:36.280 --> 1:39:37.960 feel pretty I feel pretty good about him. 1:39:37.960 --> 1:39:39.559 I think he can beat the Dolphins next week. 1:39:39.800 --> 1:39:40.400 Put it that way. 1:39:40.800 --> 1:39:43.840 And before we start pumping up Mac too much for 1:39:43.960 --> 1:39:45.920 the three hundred and sixteen yards he threw the ball 1:39:46.040 --> 1:39:49.480 fifty four times tonight, I mean, you can't just discount 1:39:49.520 --> 1:39:50.559 how he played in the first. 1:39:50.439 --> 1:39:53.960 Four can't discount how many passes hit eagles, right, He 1:39:54.080 --> 1:39:56.840 only had one pick, and ironically that one hit a 1:39:56.880 --> 1:39:57.559 Patriot first. 1:39:57.880 --> 1:40:01.400 Right, Oh, cousin, Patt, you an aguon what's going on? Pat? 1:40:02.880 --> 1:40:03.360 What's going on? 1:40:03.520 --> 1:40:04.559 Gay? Hey Patty? 1:40:06.000 --> 1:40:07.920 Hey Paul, I'm one. 1:40:08.800 --> 1:40:11.840 You're one of your first points. I'm one with you. 1:40:12.320 --> 1:40:14.800 Like I I wrote in the whack packed group text 1:40:14.920 --> 1:40:17.800 that uh, he looked pretty good, actually good after a 1:40:17.880 --> 1:40:20.280 shaky start. The online did pretty damn good in pass 1:40:20.360 --> 1:40:25.960 pro terrible, terrible situational football and bad untimely penalty and 1:40:26.680 --> 1:40:28.559 ready I'm with you. I mean, these next two games 1:40:28.600 --> 1:40:31.960 are Hugel. I would have liked to have seen him 1:40:31.960 --> 1:40:33.640 pull off the game. But I mean, if we're if 1:40:33.640 --> 1:40:35.559 we're going to go anywhere, we got to make pay 1:40:35.600 --> 1:40:37.560 in the division. We got to beat the Jets, and 1:40:37.680 --> 1:40:39.479 we gotta beat the Dolphins the next week. And that's 1:40:39.479 --> 1:40:40.080 all I gotta say. 1:40:40.120 --> 1:40:42.639 Get Yeah, okay, thanks Pat, that's it man. The next 1:40:42.760 --> 1:40:45.519 couple of weeks. I mean this, these are too serious 1:40:45.960 --> 1:40:46.479 for this team. 1:40:46.720 --> 1:40:50.280 Absolutely, Dolphins weren't going up and down. 1:40:50.520 --> 1:40:51.200 What's Week three? 1:40:51.600 --> 1:40:56.280 The Jets, Jets, Dallas then Dallas, I know, Dallas, Dallas, Jets. 1:40:56.280 --> 1:40:57.080 I just didn't know what to order. 1:40:57.120 --> 1:40:59.439 And in Dallas NFC. I mean it is what it is. 1:40:59.479 --> 1:41:02.320 Of course, you know, if you don't win these two 1:41:02.400 --> 1:41:04.439 games and you're you're really behind the eight ball. 1:41:04.920 --> 1:41:06.400 I want to hear from the quarterback. I want to 1:41:06.400 --> 1:41:08.599 hear what Mac Jones had to say post game. Sure 1:41:08.920 --> 1:41:11.439 after the twenty five to twenty loss to the Eagles tonight, 1:41:11.520 --> 1:41:14.320 the regular season opener at ju LT Stadium. Here is 1:41:14.400 --> 1:41:20.599 your quarterback, Hi. 1:41:20.600 --> 1:41:23.360 Mac, what do you think over here? Chelsea McDonald was 1:41:23.400 --> 1:41:26.040 Seven News. What do you think contributed to the slow 1:41:26.120 --> 1:41:28.680 start to this game? And how proud are you of 1:41:28.720 --> 1:41:31.080 the way that you guys responded despite that slow start? 1:41:31.720 --> 1:41:35.439 Yeah, I think just working through some things. Really didn't 1:41:35.479 --> 1:41:38.280 throw any good passes on the first drive, So definitely 1:41:38.320 --> 1:41:40.840 a slow start and starts with me. I just got 1:41:40.960 --> 1:41:43.280 to watch the tape and clean it up, but definitely 1:41:43.320 --> 1:41:45.960 felt like we fought hard. The rookies played really well, 1:41:46.000 --> 1:41:48.160 the offensive line played really well, the skilled players played 1:41:48.160 --> 1:41:50.680 really well. So definitely let the team down to the night. 1:41:50.840 --> 1:41:54.120 Couldn't couldn't score, you know, early, and we just fell 1:41:54.200 --> 1:41:56.759 behind because of me and I put it on myself, 1:42:00.439 --> 1:42:00.880 Hi Mac. 1:42:01.920 --> 1:42:05.559 The defense got to the ball a couple of times 1:42:05.680 --> 1:42:09.160 late in the game with the possibility of, you know, 1:42:09.280 --> 1:42:12.479 getting the ball in to go ahead. How would you 1:42:12.560 --> 1:42:15.840 sum up those two drives that you just weren't able to. 1:42:16.080 --> 1:42:19.880 Yeah, it's not very Yeah, not good by me. I 1:42:19.960 --> 1:42:22.200 mean they gave me the ball twice to win the 1:42:22.240 --> 1:42:24.680 game and I couldn't do it. So I just got 1:42:24.800 --> 1:42:26.600 to go back and watch and see what I can 1:42:26.680 --> 1:42:30.320 do better. But as a quarterback, that hurts, right, you 1:42:30.360 --> 1:42:32.200 get a chance to win the game twice and can't 1:42:32.240 --> 1:42:35.400 do it, So just got to learn from it. You 1:42:35.520 --> 1:42:37.560 only get so many opportunities in the NFL to do that. 1:42:37.720 --> 1:42:39.800 And felt like I definitely let the team down. 1:42:42.439 --> 1:42:44.840 Hey mac To, you're right, starting the offensive line played 1:42:44.880 --> 1:42:46.960 down two starters. How do you says how the protection 1:42:47.120 --> 1:42:49.240 was and how those guys executed overall today? 1:42:49.360 --> 1:42:49.880 Yeah? Great. 1:42:49.920 --> 1:42:53.439 I think starting two rookies on the offensive line is tough, 1:42:53.520 --> 1:42:56.599 and they played really, really good all night. Didn't really 1:42:56.640 --> 1:42:59.200 feel the pressure at all against the best events line 1:42:59.240 --> 1:43:01.840 in the NFL. So I felt like they did an 1:43:01.880 --> 1:43:04.400 amazing job. Couldn't thank them enough for the job they 1:43:04.479 --> 1:43:06.720 did tonight, and just got to grow and continue on 1:43:06.880 --> 1:43:09.439 and those would be some of the best guys they'll 1:43:09.479 --> 1:43:12.599 go against all year, but in the NFL, everyone's good, right, 1:43:12.720 --> 1:43:16.240 so they know that they're working hard everybody. You know, 1:43:16.360 --> 1:43:18.960 David's doing a great job leading in Trent and some 1:43:19.080 --> 1:43:21.599 of the older guys. So been really proud of those guys, 1:43:21.680 --> 1:43:23.960 and definitely felt like I let them down a little 1:43:24.000 --> 1:43:26.920 bit there at the end. Didn't play my best game, 1:43:27.040 --> 1:43:28.920 So I definitely just got to keep working. 1:43:29.520 --> 1:43:31.679 But then also to be in that two score hole, 1:43:31.960 --> 1:43:33.439 what do you What did it say to you about 1:43:33.479 --> 1:43:35.360 the team? The way you guys responded as a whole. 1:43:35.800 --> 1:43:36.560 Yeah, I loved that. 1:43:36.680 --> 1:43:38.360 I think you know they kept fighting. 1:43:38.439 --> 1:43:41.280 Just play play by play, Uh, don't only the scoreboard, 1:43:41.320 --> 1:43:44.040 and Coach Belichick did a great job explaining that to us, 1:43:44.280 --> 1:43:47.839 just play each play for what it is. And definitely 1:43:48.240 --> 1:43:50.640 had too many bad plays versus good plays for me, 1:43:50.760 --> 1:43:52.640 and I just got to watch it and see how 1:43:52.640 --> 1:43:54.800 I can do better. But everybody around me played a 1:43:54.840 --> 1:43:57.320 great game and just got to be better. 1:43:59.360 --> 1:43:59.519 Mac. 1:43:59.560 --> 1:44:01.800 We speak a lot about leadership. You yourself are hard 1:44:01.840 --> 1:44:03.840 on yourself. You just talked about it, and you could 1:44:03.880 --> 1:44:07.400 have come back in that fourth quarter, but down sixteen 1:44:07.400 --> 1:44:09.559 to nothing, that was the time that looked like any 1:44:09.560 --> 1:44:12.080 team could fold. Your team did not. What does it 1:44:12.160 --> 1:44:14.320 say about you and your growth here in this third 1:44:14.400 --> 1:44:16.200 year and being able to lead your team back in 1:44:16.280 --> 1:44:16.599 that way. 1:44:17.160 --> 1:44:20.479 Yeah, I think the defense obviously played great and special 1:44:20.520 --> 1:44:24.479 teams had some good returns and stuff. So honestly, you 1:44:24.560 --> 1:44:26.120 just have to watch it and see what I can 1:44:26.200 --> 1:44:29.040 do better. From a schematic standpoint, I felt like in 1:44:29.120 --> 1:44:31.680 the most critical times I played my worst, So just 1:44:31.760 --> 1:44:33.439 got to go back and look and see what I 1:44:33.479 --> 1:44:35.080 can do better. It's all you can do is learn. 1:44:36.120 --> 1:44:38.400 That's what you do as a good quarterback. You go 1:44:38.520 --> 1:44:41.320 back and learn, and when it's the hardest, that's when 1:44:41.360 --> 1:44:42.200 you need to play your best. 1:44:42.920 --> 1:44:44.040 So I definitely can do it. 1:44:44.320 --> 1:44:45.799 I know I can do it. I've done it before. 1:44:47.200 --> 1:44:50.320 Just got to be better and definitely came back and 1:44:50.439 --> 1:44:52.280 had a chance to win the game a few times. 1:44:52.320 --> 1:44:54.680 So just felt like I let the defense down and 1:44:55.120 --> 1:44:55.960 I'll have to live with that. 1:44:58.479 --> 1:45:01.040 Mac the offense to start, and then you had that 1:45:01.479 --> 1:45:04.040 run there, the touchdown drives in the second quarter. It 1:45:04.120 --> 1:45:06.360 added more of a vertical element to the to the 1:45:06.439 --> 1:45:08.800 offense at that point. What really settled you guys in 1:45:08.880 --> 1:45:10.759 and made you comfortable at that point, Yeah. 1:45:10.640 --> 1:45:13.840 I think coach O'Brien just doing his thing, calling the 1:45:13.920 --> 1:45:16.200 game how he knows how to call it. He did 1:45:16.240 --> 1:45:18.920 a great job preparing us all week. We knew what 1:45:19.040 --> 1:45:21.120 we were getting. It was just, you know, slow start 1:45:21.720 --> 1:45:24.080 kind of first game, but definitely wanted to have a 1:45:24.120 --> 1:45:26.439 better start and felt we did some good things but 1:45:26.560 --> 1:45:30.200 it wasn't consistent enough. But definitely just him just keeping calm, 1:45:30.800 --> 1:45:33.000 just talking through with the offensive line and us and 1:45:33.040 --> 1:45:35.800 the quarterbacks and everybody felt like we had a good plan. 1:45:36.320 --> 1:45:38.960 Kind of like it declared the game declared, we knew 1:45:38.960 --> 1:45:40.720 what they were kind of doing, so come up with 1:45:40.800 --> 1:45:43.479 some plays that we liked and just need to execute 1:45:43.520 --> 1:45:45.400 a little better in those critical points. 1:45:47.800 --> 1:45:50.640 Matt, you're being hard on yourself. A question though, in 1:45:50.800 --> 1:45:53.080 terms of things that you don't like what you did. 1:45:53.520 --> 1:45:56.280 Yeah, was it a decision making standpoint that you didn't 1:45:56.360 --> 1:45:59.599 like or just physical ability something you didn't do physically 1:46:00.200 --> 1:46:01.760 in terms of not making the play. 1:46:02.720 --> 1:46:05.080 I have to go look, I felt like there was 1:46:05.120 --> 1:46:07.280 definitely a couple of times when I probably didn't throw 1:46:07.280 --> 1:46:10.040 it to the right guy. Just have to watch the film. 1:46:10.240 --> 1:46:12.120 You know, sometimes when you're out there it's going fast, 1:46:12.520 --> 1:46:15.240 just trying to stay neutral and don't go up and down, 1:46:15.280 --> 1:46:17.840 which I try not to do tonight. But yeah, I 1:46:17.920 --> 1:46:19.920 just got to watch it from a schematic standpoint. But 1:46:20.400 --> 1:46:22.240 I do think I have the ability to make all 1:46:22.280 --> 1:46:24.400 the throws. It's not that, it's just doing it at 1:46:24.400 --> 1:46:27.000 the right time, and like you said, just trying to 1:46:27.360 --> 1:46:28.800 watch the film and make it work. 1:46:31.439 --> 1:46:34.879 Hey, Mac, how would you describe your relationship your chemistry? 1:46:34.920 --> 1:46:40.800 Are confident in Kendrick obviously big target tonight. I had 1:46:40.800 --> 1:46:43.000 the misque early on where it seemed like the past 1:46:43.040 --> 1:46:46.320 went off his hands, but no hesitation to keep going 1:46:46.360 --> 1:46:48.960 back to him. How confident are you and Kendrick to 1:46:49.120 --> 1:46:50.880 bounce back from that sort of stuff and when the 1:46:50.960 --> 1:46:53.240 game is in an important situation that he's gonna make 1:46:53.280 --> 1:46:53.559 the play. 1:46:53.880 --> 1:46:56.240 Yeah, I mean Kb's one of my closest friends, and 1:46:56.840 --> 1:46:58.479 I know that he's gonna run as hard as he 1:46:58.520 --> 1:47:01.080 can on every play and fight for the ball. And 1:47:01.400 --> 1:47:04.240 our receivers have been doing that very well. That one 1:47:04.360 --> 1:47:06.800 I threw too high in the rain, it's gonna that's 1:47:06.840 --> 1:47:10.080 gonna happen. It's a bad throw, but yeah, he kept fighting, 1:47:10.200 --> 1:47:12.400 and I know that about KB. We've kind of been 1:47:12.439 --> 1:47:15.880 in these situations far too often or behind, and I 1:47:15.960 --> 1:47:18.240 know that's my go to guy, and and the other 1:47:18.280 --> 1:47:20.640 guys too, they're they're all open at some point in 1:47:20.720 --> 1:47:22.120 the game and we just have to hit him and 1:47:22.200 --> 1:47:24.720 sometimes we did and the line gave us great time 1:47:24.760 --> 1:47:26.200 all night, so that was never an issue. 1:47:28.560 --> 1:47:31.000 Mac What was your reaction to watching Jabrill lay that 1:47:31.040 --> 1:47:33.080 head on Jalen and and getting the ball back for 1:47:33.120 --> 1:47:34.560 you guys another chance to go to go. 1:47:34.760 --> 1:47:37.760 Yeah, that was a great play. Pep, he's the man. 1:47:38.040 --> 1:47:39.960 He told me to go win it and we couldn't 1:47:40.000 --> 1:47:42.040 do it, so that hurts me. But they gave me 1:47:42.120 --> 1:47:45.760 the ball back to win it multiple times. And Pep 1:47:45.800 --> 1:47:48.559 always brings that energy to practice and it feeds feeds 1:47:48.600 --> 1:47:51.599 through the team and he's gonna continue to make those plays. 1:47:51.640 --> 1:47:54.000 And we talked in the locker room and I feel 1:47:54.000 --> 1:47:56.040 like we're on the same page. Just got to do 1:47:56.160 --> 1:47:58.400 better on my part. You know, when the defense holds 1:47:58.439 --> 1:48:01.200 the best offense, you know that few points and gets 1:48:01.240 --> 1:48:01.760 the ball back. 1:48:02.080 --> 1:48:06.200 Just got to be better, Macfield saying, like in the NFL, 1:48:06.240 --> 1:48:08.519 you have to learn how not to lose. You guys 1:48:08.640 --> 1:48:10.280 played well on offense a but there were just a 1:48:10.320 --> 1:48:12.320 couple of mistakes kind of sprinkled throughout the game. Is 1:48:12.360 --> 1:48:15.240 it getting frustrated kind of learning these lessons and losses? 1:48:15.320 --> 1:48:18.519 I guess not really, I think. I mean it's hard, right, 1:48:18.680 --> 1:48:20.960 you're trying to win every game, but you have to learn. 1:48:21.080 --> 1:48:23.320 If you don't learn, you'll never never end up winning. 1:48:23.439 --> 1:48:26.800 So I do think that losing is not fun, never 1:48:26.920 --> 1:48:30.120 has been, never will be. But just trying to move forward. 1:48:30.240 --> 1:48:32.920 And you know, if we scored a few more points 1:48:32.960 --> 1:48:35.240 on offense and I'd be a different story. So we're 1:48:35.280 --> 1:48:38.160 not far off. It's just trying to just you know, 1:48:38.360 --> 1:48:38.760 do better. 1:48:41.040 --> 1:48:41.240 Mac. 1:48:41.280 --> 1:48:43.240 It seems like the offense started gaining momentum when you 1:48:43.320 --> 1:48:46.040 were using a bunch of stack formations to create some miscommunication. 1:48:46.320 --> 1:48:48.080 Why was that something you thought would be an advantage 1:48:48.120 --> 1:48:49.040 heading into this matchup. 1:48:49.280 --> 1:48:50.160 Yeah, that's a great question. 1:48:50.280 --> 1:48:50.719 I think. 1:48:52.080 --> 1:48:55.120 Really with the defense and all the coverages that they play, 1:48:56.320 --> 1:48:58.240 felt like we needed to do that and spread out 1:48:58.320 --> 1:49:01.160 the formations and also bring them in tight. So I'm 1:49:01.240 --> 1:49:02.920 not really picky about it. I just want, you know, 1:49:03.240 --> 1:49:04.880 the play to come in fast, which it did, and 1:49:04.920 --> 1:49:06.800 then get up there and execute. So I felt like 1:49:06.840 --> 1:49:09.679 our tempo was good when we use the tempo plays. 1:49:09.720 --> 1:49:11.479 You got to make make the tempo plays work or 1:49:11.520 --> 1:49:13.479 else there's no point in running the tempo plays. So 1:49:13.800 --> 1:49:15.120 we have a few out of bunch with if you 1:49:15.160 --> 1:49:17.960 out of stacks and stuff like that. But yeah, that's 1:49:18.000 --> 1:49:18.679 a really good question. 1:49:20.760 --> 1:49:23.080 Hi, Mac, what just can you speak to what you've 1:49:23.080 --> 1:49:25.360 seen from Henter Henry and what your relationship is like 1:49:25.680 --> 1:49:26.040 with him. 1:49:26.240 --> 1:49:31.120 Yeah, Hunter's awesome, him, Mike, Pharaoh, everybody, Matt Sokle, they 1:49:31.200 --> 1:49:33.880 have a great room over there. I'm really really proud 1:49:33.920 --> 1:49:35.240 of those guys in the way they had a good 1:49:35.320 --> 1:49:38.040 camp and carried it over to the game. But yeah, 1:49:38.040 --> 1:49:42.640 he's definitely great teammate, just always positive and I'm just 1:49:42.800 --> 1:49:45.400 disappointed that I let him down. Couldn't We couldn't score 1:49:45.439 --> 1:49:48.240 there at the end. But yeah, we're gonna keep working. 1:49:48.320 --> 1:49:51.200 Hunters real positive, Mike's real positive. They played a lot 1:49:51.240 --> 1:49:53.760 of football in this league and I can definitely lean 1:49:53.880 --> 1:49:55.880 on them as some of the veteran leaders. 1:49:56.840 --> 1:49:57.080 Cool. 1:49:57.240 --> 1:50:01.439 Thanks, there you go. There is your quarterback Mac Jones tonight. 1:50:02.479 --> 1:50:04.600 You know, we didn't really mention the no huddle that 1:50:04.640 --> 1:50:06.000 they were running toward the end of the game, but 1:50:06.080 --> 1:50:08.000 that that's something else that we didn't see a whole 1:50:08.040 --> 1:50:10.000 lot last year, and you got to execute it on 1:50:10.080 --> 1:50:12.400 the plays. But they didn't. It didn't look like a 1:50:12.479 --> 1:50:13.080 fire drill. 1:50:13.280 --> 1:50:13.320 No. 1:50:13.520 --> 1:50:16.840 They they look like they were you know, executing at 1:50:16.920 --> 1:50:17.400 times and. 1:50:19.120 --> 1:50:22.200 About what that's the beginning Excuse me? 1:50:22.840 --> 1:50:26.679 When they were going, oh yeah, find it seemed. 1:50:26.439 --> 1:50:27.840 Like they might have want to go to a little more, 1:50:27.880 --> 1:50:30.479 that they could have gotten some plays together, you know, 1:50:30.640 --> 1:50:32.479 like I think Paul's thing where they were struggling on 1:50:32.520 --> 1:50:33.960 first down, seemed like a couple of times they did 1:50:34.040 --> 1:50:35.559 have success on first down, they. 1:50:35.560 --> 1:50:37.400 Kind of went right into that no huddle, try to 1:50:37.439 --> 1:50:38.360 try to hurry the pace up. 1:50:38.400 --> 1:50:40.479 But yeah, is that an expensive shirt? 1:50:41.720 --> 1:50:44.240 It was a gift from the from the people at 1:50:44.280 --> 1:50:45.480 Willow Bend Country. 1:50:45.240 --> 1:50:47.200 Killing a lot of free stuff, don't you. 1:50:47.800 --> 1:50:49.640 I was down there hosting a little chin wag with 1:50:49.680 --> 1:50:52.120 the members and Darren Clark Champion. 1:50:52.880 --> 1:50:54.880 Show that you do in the morning is really paying 1:50:54.920 --> 1:50:55.720 off for you, isn't it. 1:50:55.840 --> 1:50:57.439 Well it's done now for the season. You want to 1:50:57.520 --> 1:50:59.160 know why my Sundays are yours? 1:50:59.240 --> 1:50:59.479 Boss? 1:50:59.640 --> 1:51:02.960 I know? So you're able to give away callaway irons 1:51:03.120 --> 1:51:04.960 just willy nilly, just from here have them. 1:51:05.040 --> 1:51:07.000 You just sat in Paul's trunk for like three weeks, 1:51:07.040 --> 1:51:07.719 like a dead body. 1:51:07.760 --> 1:51:09.840 And I asked him, I said, what kind of clubs? 1:51:09.840 --> 1:51:12.639 Did he? I don't know. So someone gives you clubs 1:51:12.680 --> 1:51:14.160 and you don't even look at what they are. 1:51:14.840 --> 1:51:16.720 Well, I ended up getting p xgs this year. I 1:51:17.000 --> 1:51:17.960 don't those. 1:51:21.720 --> 1:51:23.200 Do you remember when you gave me the clubs? It 1:51:23.280 --> 1:51:26.280 was after right, and we just put on my trunk 1:51:26.320 --> 1:51:27.920 and I didn't like, really look at them, and I 1:51:28.000 --> 1:51:30.280 didn't like I hadn't really noticed, and then I kind 1:51:30.280 --> 1:51:30.880 of forgot about it. 1:51:30.960 --> 1:51:33.080 We go home and wow, these are cool. 1:51:32.960 --> 1:51:37.080 Fred, you know, sort of ripped me on the radio, 1:51:37.840 --> 1:51:40.280 went for a new one, went to box for four minutes, 1:51:40.320 --> 1:51:40.840 felt shame. 1:51:41.640 --> 1:51:42.400 Everything was fine. 1:51:43.960 --> 1:51:47.920 I hit those irons reasonably well yesterday, not as well 1:51:47.960 --> 1:51:50.439 as I did last week. I choked with Hardy with 1:51:50.560 --> 1:51:52.799 me at the tournament that we played together, and yesterday, 1:51:52.840 --> 1:51:56.800 well we played seven under. There were seven not if 1:51:56.840 --> 1:51:58.040 I was there the whole time, he might have been 1:51:58.080 --> 1:51:58.479 ten under. 1:51:58.680 --> 1:52:01.000 Right, Do you have any fine thoughts on the game 1:52:01.040 --> 1:52:01.519 here tonight? 1:52:01.560 --> 1:52:01.800 Fred? 1:52:01.840 --> 1:52:04.680 Before we get ready for a primetime affair against the 1:52:04.760 --> 1:52:05.760 Dolphins next week. 1:52:07.360 --> 1:52:09.720 You asked the question earlier, like coming out of this game. 1:52:09.760 --> 1:52:14.559 What will really bother you? The halftime stream didn't work 1:52:14.600 --> 1:52:17.320 as well for everybody as we had hope, so I 1:52:17.439 --> 1:52:21.680 apologize for that. Oh a lot of people just froze up, 1:52:22.040 --> 1:52:24.160 you know, bandwidth issues. I guess I don't know so. 1:52:24.200 --> 1:52:25.160 Many people trying to watch. 1:52:25.600 --> 1:52:28.479 Well it was, well, that shouldn't in twenty twenty three. 1:52:28.560 --> 1:52:29.679 That should not be an issue. 1:52:29.720 --> 1:52:33.080 I'm sorry, unless it's like a ridiculous amount. 1:52:33.439 --> 1:52:36.519 Even then it happens to Taylor Swift, you know, but 1:52:36.720 --> 1:52:40.320 this isn't that. You know, there's no excuses. Some people 1:52:40.400 --> 1:52:42.800 saw it something, but I wanted everybody to see it, 1:52:42.920 --> 1:52:45.680 so that bothered me. All right, Well, but you can 1:52:45.720 --> 1:52:48.479 go to patries dot com now and see the whole 1:52:48.600 --> 1:52:50.840 ceremony in its entirety, with a whole bunch of people 1:52:50.880 --> 1:52:51.560 that have been watching it. 1:52:51.640 --> 1:52:55.120 That's for sure not necessarily game related. So do say 1:52:55.120 --> 1:52:56.760 anything with a game or you. 1:52:56.840 --> 1:52:59.439 Know, it is what it is, a little disappointing, little encouraging, 1:52:59.600 --> 1:53:00.599 but doesn't really matter. 1:53:00.760 --> 1:53:02.880 I just think, all eyes on the Dolphins. You haven't 1:53:02.920 --> 1:53:04.720 beaten to a yet. They're coming off a big win. 1:53:04.840 --> 1:53:08.000 It's a divisional game at home. If you're serious about 1:53:08.200 --> 1:53:10.360 being a contender and making this season matter. I think 1:53:10.400 --> 1:53:12.280 this is pretty much as close as you can get 1:53:12.280 --> 1:53:14.400 to a must win at week two. I know it's 1:53:14.479 --> 1:53:17.439 week two, but everything that's been going on last couple 1:53:17.479 --> 1:53:18.920 of years must win this weekend. 1:53:19.160 --> 1:53:22.760 Well, I really like Mike's I'll just I guess I'll 1:53:22.800 --> 1:53:27.320 hammer it home. I didn't like the decisions, situational decisions, 1:53:27.600 --> 1:53:30.720 passing up field goals and even not punting on fourth 1:53:30.760 --> 1:53:33.040 and seventeen from about the forty eight yard line at 1:53:33.040 --> 1:53:37.599 the end. Just think about if on that last drive, 1:53:37.680 --> 1:53:40.280 if the Eagles had converted the fourth down, let say, 1:53:40.320 --> 1:53:43.200 Gonzalas doesn't make that tremendous play, right, do you think 1:53:43.240 --> 1:53:45.400 they go for fourth and two from their own fifteen. 1:53:46.720 --> 1:53:46.920 Like that? 1:53:47.080 --> 1:53:49.280 To me changes it forced you to have to defend 1:53:49.320 --> 1:53:52.240 a fourth down because you just gave them the ball 1:53:52.240 --> 1:53:54.320 at fifty and they said, we can roll the dice 1:53:54.360 --> 1:53:56.120 here and we can end the game. They're not going 1:53:56.200 --> 1:53:58.120 to do that deep in their own territory, right, Yeah. 1:53:58.120 --> 1:53:59.679 I didn't like the situational decisions. 1:53:59.720 --> 1:54:02.519 No, And I think that the players themselves can look 1:54:02.520 --> 1:54:05.280 at the opportunities they had and decide that maybe they 1:54:05.400 --> 1:54:08.000 need to do better next time. Around, and I hope 1:54:08.040 --> 1:54:10.599 the coaches do the same thing, and they have enough 1:54:10.920 --> 1:54:13.639 humility to kind of bet look back at that stuff 1:54:13.680 --> 1:54:16.400 and say, really, wasn't six minutes, it was ten minutes, 1:54:16.400 --> 1:54:18.559 and maybe the three points would have served us better there. 1:54:18.680 --> 1:54:20.400 If you can learn from that stuff going forward, I 1:54:20.439 --> 1:54:22.400 think we got a hell of a season. 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