Speaker 1: His own.
Speaker 2: James played Mark Reese in season seven, and fans know
Speaker 2: the controversy around his character and the actor. Many know
Speaker 2: that the intention was for Dalton to be a regular
Speaker 2: throughout season seven and Kelly Taylor's love interest, but that
Speaker 2: didn't happen. His time on the show was cut short.
Speaker 2: He was let go from nine O two one zero
Speaker 2: and there have been rumors for years as to why. Well,
Speaker 2: today he's here and we aren't going to shy away
Speaker 2: from going there and asking him the uncomfortable questions and
Speaker 2: finding out the real story.
Speaker 3: It's nine O one e Legen with Jenny Garth and
Speaker 3: Tory Spelling.
Speaker 4: Hey, guys, how are you hi?
Speaker 1: Dalton?
Speaker 4: How's it going?
Speaker 3: Hi? Where are you?
Speaker 4: I'm sitting in my kitchen. What city though, oh, Burbank.
Speaker 2: So we wanted to do this interview, and we were
Speaker 2: thinking about going back and doing a boot of Kelly
Speaker 2: and Mark and just doing a whole show another nine
Speaker 2: or Tana, What do you think that's been off?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd be down. You're asking me.
Speaker 1: It's been how many years? Twenty five years though?
Speaker 4: Oh my, twenty seven seven years?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's.
Speaker 4: Been a long time. I went and watched. I went
Speaker 4: back and watched that episode this morning that you guys
Speaker 4: sent me, and I was like, oh my gosh, I'll
Speaker 4: look at how long ago that was. It was. I
Speaker 4: just can't believe it at this point.
Speaker 3: No, well, it feels like yesterday because you look exactly
Speaker 3: the same.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you, so you guys. I've I've had my
Speaker 4: ups and downs. You know. I put on some weight
Speaker 4: for a while and then I was like, this isn't me.
Speaker 4: I don't like it. So I took that off and
Speaker 4: I quit drinking. Was the thing. Drink packed on some
Speaker 4: weight and I was like, in my life, so I
Speaker 4: cut it out completely.
Speaker 3: So you're much healthier now than Yeah.
Speaker 4: Good, I Yeah I am.
Speaker 2: Because People Magazine you were you were one of the sexiest,
Speaker 2: sexiest people two thousand correct.
Speaker 1: Wow, I.
Speaker 4: Heard that, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's not true.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I honestly have no idea. Nobody ever
Speaker 4: told me, and no one ever told you.
Speaker 3: I think you were one of the sexiest people. And
Speaker 3: People Magazine you probably know, like, that's a that's.
Speaker 1: A good that's what you told me. It must be real. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I saw that online at some point and I
Speaker 4: was like, I never heard that, So I think I
Speaker 4: think that somebody messed up and made a mistake, and
Speaker 4: that's not.
Speaker 1: Just take it and run.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just started watching back the episodes. I think
Speaker 3: last week was the first episode that you aired on,
Speaker 3: and you just appeared out of nowhere, as if we
Speaker 3: had known you for a long time, like your character
Speaker 3: just came in like he'd been there forever, which was
Speaker 3: such a weird way to introduce a character.
Speaker 4: I thought, Yeah, I mean, do you remember that. I
Speaker 4: do remember that, and but it's happened to me before.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was you know, you just kind of
Speaker 4: go with it, right, I mean, you get thrown into
Speaker 4: situations and acting where they do that all the time.
Speaker 4: So but it did seem that way, kind of like
Speaker 4: I'm hanging out with Jason and the TV station and
Speaker 4: it's like we're old buddies and but I just ran
Speaker 4: with it, did my job. So it was a lot
Speaker 4: of fun.
Speaker 1: Were you offered this part or you auditioned?
Speaker 4: I was offered by your father. I had done a
Speaker 4: couple of pilots for him previously that didn't get picked up.
Speaker 4: One of them he really really wanted to get picked up.
Speaker 4: It was called which one. It's called Crossdown Traffic, where
Speaker 4: I played a it's like a twenty one jumps jump
Speaker 4: okay file type show. But he tried and tried, and
Speaker 4: that we went past the pickup date and he kept
Speaker 4: me on hold, gave me a little money, which was
Speaker 4: cool to hold me, but it didn't end up getting
Speaker 4: picked up. And then I did another one for him
Speaker 4: called The wolf Pack right after that one the next year,
Speaker 4: and that was another family detective tile style show with
Speaker 4: like Piper Lori and Dennis Weaver and Greg Evigan some
Speaker 4: other people, and that didn't get picked up. And then
Speaker 4: Aaron came to me and he said, would you like
Speaker 4: to do nine O two one oh? And I said, sure,
Speaker 4: why not? You know that was a little scary though.
Speaker 4: I have to be honest with you guys, because there
Speaker 4: was a little bit of an intimidation factor going into
Speaker 4: that show, because you guys were an iconic show for one,
Speaker 4: and you guys were like a family already, and I
Speaker 4: was used to starting from ground up. You know, you
Speaker 4: get your book the pilot, then you get picked up,
Speaker 4: everybody does the show, then you become like a family.
Speaker 4: So I was my first day of shooting to be honest,
Speaker 4: that first scene that I did in the TV station
Speaker 4: with Jason, I was a little bit nervous. And I
Speaker 4: never got nervous when I was shooting, but that one
Speaker 4: particular time I did, and as soon as the scene
Speaker 4: was over, I was fine after that.
Speaker 2: So I just remember when you were in My Father
Speaker 2: the Hero and I was so smitten with you.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, that is the cutest boy.
Speaker 2: I remember telling my dad. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: he's amazing. Was that your first film?
Speaker 4: That was my second film? I was in Encino man.
Speaker 2: I had a oh great, you were so dreamy and
Speaker 2: My Father the Hero. Okay, sorry, I digress. Let's go
Speaker 2: back to Mark reeson niners who want I'm sorry, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yes, Well, I feel like what I'd love to just
Speaker 3: address something that for me is like the elephant in
Speaker 3: the room, because let's just have a really open, honest conversation,
Speaker 3: because there are things out there that talk about why
Speaker 3: your character didn't continue forward on the show. We've heard
Speaker 3: a couple of different takes on how that went down.
Speaker 3: One of them was the chemistry factor between our characters, right,
Speaker 3: how did I'm just curious, like, for you, what that
Speaker 3: was like that whole experience where did you think you
Speaker 3: were going to be on for more episodes and then
Speaker 3: it ended sooner than you thought.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did, and I was I remember when I
Speaker 4: forget the producer's name now, but I remember when he
Speaker 4: brought me in and was to have a meeting with
Speaker 4: him and told me that they were letting me go.
Speaker 4: I was pretty bummed about it, to be honest, But
Speaker 4: you know, hey, life is hard for all of us.
Speaker 4: We we were all young. You know. For one, I'm
Speaker 4: I don't have any ill feelings at all. And you know,
Speaker 4: it was a great job. It was a great opportunity
Speaker 4: and I made some great money. But yeah, I was
Speaker 4: bummed when the when the show got canceled. And you know,
Speaker 4: I know you and I we I thought we worked
Speaker 4: together well. But you know, like I said, we were young.
Speaker 4: I was going through a hard time. I was, you know,
Speaker 4: had I was a new father at the time. I
Speaker 4: don't know if you guys remember that.
Speaker 3: How old were you when you had a child.
Speaker 4: I was young. I was twenty five when my son
Speaker 4: was born, So I don't know why I started so young.
Speaker 4: I don't regret it. I love my kid. He's a
Speaker 4: great kid. I have four by the way.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: But back to what you were saying, I don't have
Speaker 4: any ill feelings, so it's you know, we I thought
Speaker 4: we did a good job together. I thought we did
Speaker 4: some good work.
Speaker 3: I'm really glad to hear you say that, because I've
Speaker 3: been seeing the character and then remembering and then hearing
Speaker 3: from different people how that all happened.
Speaker 5: I feel like.
Speaker 3: I was young too, and I feel like maybe when
Speaker 3: you're young like that, you don't really look at things
Speaker 3: objectively from different perspectives, and perhaps me thinking well this,
Speaker 3: I don't feel like the chemistry between these characters is
Speaker 3: working out. I didn't really look at how that impacted
Speaker 3: you or your future, and I just I'm glad to
Speaker 3: hear you say that you don't harbor feelings about it,
Speaker 3: because I would hate that.
Speaker 4: I don't. You know, the journey that I took in
Speaker 4: my career was there was a lot of learning. You know,
Speaker 4: it's a big learning experience for me. You know, you're
Speaker 4: thrown into a situation is at twenty one that let's
Speaker 4: putting this way, When I was twenty, I'm living in Sacramento,
Speaker 4: I'm working at a tractor yard. Before I moved to
Speaker 4: Los Angeles and I had a manager that wanted me,
Speaker 4: and I was making one hundred and seventy five bucks
Speaker 4: a week. But I loved the job. It was so
Speaker 4: much fun. I got to drive all these big tractors
Speaker 4: and stuff. And then the next year, I'm on a
Speaker 4: TV series with Robert Urick. He's playing my father, I'm
Speaker 4: his son. We're the two stars of the show, and
Speaker 4: I'm making eighteen thousand dollars a week. And I was like,
Speaker 4: how the heck did this happen? And I remember I
Speaker 4: was depressed for the first two months of shooting, and
Speaker 4: I was like, why are you depressed? You got the
Speaker 4: world at your feet, You're I mean, you've succeeded at something.
Speaker 4: And then and I'm depressed, and it kind of set
Speaker 4: me on. You know, there's no class that you can
Speaker 4: go take in college that prepares you for being thrown
Speaker 4: onto a TV show and everybody all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: you know, you go places and they know who you are.
Speaker 4: There's nothing that prepares you for that. Coupled with the
Speaker 4: fact that I grew up with a family that didn't
Speaker 4: have any money, so nobody talked about how to save
Speaker 4: it or invest it or you know, to set yourself
Speaker 4: up for the future. So I kind of squandered, you know,
Speaker 4: the money that I made for eleven years. I was
Speaker 4: just kind of an idiot in a certain way. But
Speaker 4: you know, but you know, you live in your learn
Speaker 4: and I look at it. I look at my life
Speaker 4: as a series of lessons and the even you know,
Speaker 4: being on the show, the interaction that I mostly had
Speaker 4: with you, Jinny. You know, I learned from it, and
Speaker 4: you know, you become a better person, you know, you
Speaker 4: learn things about yourself, and you know, I was in
Speaker 4: a place where I was trying to find myself still.
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's hard being you know, I'm sure
Speaker 4: you guys relate one hundred percent more than I do.
Speaker 4: You guys reached a level of SSS, that of success
Speaker 4: that I didn't, and I kind of sabotaged my career
Speaker 4: in a way, you know, because I wasn't. I had
Speaker 4: a lot of issue and I put myself through therapy
Speaker 4: and I went to group therapies with my wife at
Speaker 4: the time were since divorced and with somebody else now.
Speaker 4: But you know, it's just a you know, we learned,
Speaker 4: we move on and we become better but I I
Speaker 4: so appreciate you bringing that up. I really do. I
Speaker 4: think that's really cool. I'm impressed.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean.
Speaker 3: It's I don't think I ever Yeah, like I said before,
Speaker 3: you don't really think at that young age the impact
Speaker 3: and us being in that kind of bubble that we
Speaker 3: were growing up in with, you know, this weird power
Speaker 3: that was appointed to us as the stars of the show,
Speaker 3: and then you look back all these thirty some years
Speaker 3: later and you're like, wow, what happened? Like how did
Speaker 3: that happen? And why would you know? Why would it be? Yeah,
Speaker 3: it just why would have happened? But I'm interested to like,
Speaker 3: do do you know exactly what did you learn? You
Speaker 3: said you learned things from that experience, Like what is
Speaker 3: it that you learned? Do you know?
Speaker 4: Well? I, like I said, I had a lot of
Speaker 4: issues and I was I remember when I that first
Speaker 4: two months of shooting and I was, you know, depressed.
Speaker 4: I was like, I got to do some work on myself.
Speaker 4: I want I had this cloud over me, you know,
Speaker 4: and I was like, I don't want this cloud. I
Speaker 4: should be happy, you know, And there was just a
Speaker 4: lot of fear. You know, you grow up and you
Speaker 4: know where these little computers and we get programmed and
Speaker 4: then you you know, you think everything's fine, and then
Speaker 4: you get out in the real world and you realize
Speaker 4: that you, you know, aren't quite what you thought you were.
Speaker 4: And sorry, I'm trying not to get emotional, geez. And
Speaker 4: I I scrutinized myself. I put myself under a microscope,
Speaker 4: and I wanted to be better. I wanted to clean
Speaker 4: out my mind. I actually wrote a book about it
Speaker 4: that I'm actually i'm editing it. I'm finished. I wrote
Speaker 4: the book, but I'm editing. I'm trying to get that done.
Speaker 4: It's like a spirituality slash psychology self help style book.
Speaker 4: So basically what I learned on my journey and working
Speaker 4: on myself and trying to become, you know, a better
Speaker 4: version of myself. I one day thought, you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm going to write a book and maybe this can
Speaker 4: help somebody. You know. It's just kind of a little
Speaker 4: systematic way of working on cleaning out your mind, because
Speaker 4: if your mind's unclean, you're going to do dumb things
Speaker 4: like I did. I said dumb things and did dumb things.
Speaker 4: And you know, I don't really have regrets because of
Speaker 4: what I've learned about myself and I just feel better
Speaker 4: as a person and I feel happier and as a whole.
Speaker 3: Well, that's great to hear. Also what you said too
Speaker 3: about like you just gotten this big show, this big break,
Speaker 3: and you are making money for the first time, and
Speaker 3: you've still felt you felt depressed. Was that the first
Speaker 3: time that you had felt that kind of feeling, like
Speaker 3: the depression?
Speaker 4: Oh, I remember when I was fourteen, maybe I was fifteen,
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I was fifteen. Actually, my sophomore first part
Speaker 4: of my sophomore year in high school, I went through
Speaker 4: a major depression. And it's as weird as it sounds
Speaker 4: that the depression was that I could see. Sounds really weird,
Speaker 4: but I I one day realized that I could see
Speaker 4: like this world in front of me, and it really
Speaker 4: spun me into this weird thing. And it was for
Speaker 4: four months. I was really depressed and just felt like
Speaker 4: an observer of life, so to speak. But then I
Speaker 4: met this girl and we had a you know, a
Speaker 4: relationship for a while, and she kind of snapped me
Speaker 4: out of it. But you know, I always had like
Speaker 4: some deep rooted emotional things going on. I don't know,
Speaker 4: you know what they where they came from. I mean
Speaker 4: why I came from a kind of a My parents
Speaker 4: had kind of a tumultuous relationship. I guess you could
Speaker 4: say my mom and my dad when I was young.
Speaker 4: My father was a major alcoholic and they divorced when
Speaker 4: I was for Thank god, you know, God blessed my
Speaker 4: dad's soul. He passed away, but he just never could
Speaker 4: get it together. It's probably it's probably better that he
Speaker 4: wasn't there, But you know, I think some of those
Speaker 4: deep rooted issues brought up this stuff later in life.
Speaker 4: And you know, I know that he was kind of
Speaker 4: a lunatic, and but you know, so be it. That's
Speaker 4: the way it went. But you know, we all have
Speaker 4: our lessons to learn in life. We got to have
Speaker 4: drama to learn, right.
Speaker 2: So grateful now that there's so much communication about mental
Speaker 2: health and our children. It's a different generation. They can
Speaker 2: talk about it and we speak freely. I feel like
Speaker 2: our generation we didn't really know if people are suffering
Speaker 2: from depression and are talking to their parents, and it
Speaker 2: wasn't a conversation as much as it is now, and
Speaker 2: people went undiagnosed and they could get help. They can
Speaker 2: get help now, and did you feel like it during
Speaker 2: that time you couldn't talk about it or you said
Speaker 2: a girl you were in a relationship, right, and I
Speaker 2: snapped you out of it.
Speaker 1: But no like therapy or medication.
Speaker 4: No, nothing like that. I mean that we didn't have
Speaker 4: I mean we wet therapy then, but they didn't have medication.
Speaker 1: But right, it was different. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was the type of person though that I'm not
Speaker 4: afraid to feel. So I decided that I can deal
Speaker 4: with this. I need to process it and go through it.
Speaker 4: I had to tell my mom about it, but she
Speaker 4: just she couldn't understand, I guess, and she had a
Speaker 4: lot going on in her life. So it was kind
Speaker 4: of kind of was on my own. But I figured
Speaker 4: it out. And you know, that one was really deep.
Speaker 4: The cloud that I had hanging over my head in
Speaker 4: my career was It wasn't nearly as bad, but you know,
Speaker 4: I used to I would get depressed a lot, and
Speaker 4: I went through some When I went through therapy, my
Speaker 4: therapist did what's called couch work. It's a breathing exercise
Speaker 4: that you do that brings up supposedly brings up repressed
Speaker 4: childhood memories. And after I did couch work for a year.
Speaker 4: I don't get depressed anymore. Ever, I have bad days,
Speaker 4: you know, I wake up in a bad mood. You know,
Speaker 4: I have a weird dream sometimes and you wake up.
Speaker 4: But the cool thing is I can spot it now,
Speaker 4: Like I'm like, all right, you're you're kind of feeling
Speaker 4: a little spie today, so you know, just watch yourself. So,
Speaker 4: but now that's say, I just went through it on
Speaker 4: my own. But the girl stamped me out of it.
Speaker 4: She gave me something to look forward to. But it
Speaker 4: was a weird time.
Speaker 1: How old are your kids?
Speaker 4: My son is twenty nine, he's getting married next month
Speaker 4: on April fifth, going out to Milwauk for Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4: And then my daughter's twenty seven, she's already married. And
Speaker 4: then I have two step daughters that are twenty five
Speaker 4: and twenty three. So everybody was two years apart. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they're all good kids.
Speaker 3: Okay, So you left our show unexpectedly and then went
Speaker 3: on to be on with Passions.
Speaker 4: Your next project, Passions was my next probably yes, And
Speaker 4: then for whatever really reason, I got released from that
Speaker 4: and I was just like gosh, and I think that's
Speaker 4: kind of when I self sabotaged myself. I was kind
Speaker 4: of like, you know what, I'm going to step out
Speaker 4: for a while and focus on my family and my kids,
Speaker 4: and that didn't go as planned. Then my ex wife
Speaker 4: we decided to get a divorce in two thousand and five,
Speaker 4: which was best for both of us, I think because
Speaker 4: we got together so young that you know, when you're young,
Speaker 4: you don't think is this really the right person for me?
Speaker 4: At least I didn't. You know, it's just like my
Speaker 4: lover and I'm going to marry her. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: you learn, you learn more, so I came out of them.
Speaker 4: That was a difficult time for me going through the
Speaker 4: divorce because you know, even though you know that it's over,
Speaker 4: you know, you spend fifteen years of your life with somebody,
Speaker 4: you know that's it's you're going to miss. You're going
Speaker 4: to miss them to some degree, you know when you're
Speaker 4: going through that grieving process, and that was difficult.
Speaker 3: All three of us had been through that, so we
Speaker 3: can all definite but definitely relate.
Speaker 4: It's better the second time for me, for sure.
Speaker 1: It was better for the third time for Jen and
Speaker 1: I need a third time soon.
Speaker 3: Chance.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 3: Do you ever get a chance to talk to it
Speaker 3: to Aaron Spelling about your contract being cut short?
Speaker 4: No, I didn't.
Speaker 3: How did you find out? I'm so curious. Was it
Speaker 3: your agent's calling you or the producers or no.
Speaker 4: It was the producer, the guy that worked in the
Speaker 4: studio that we shot. I think it was Paul. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And he brought me in and sat me down and
Speaker 4: told me. And I was like, I was like, what
Speaker 4: did I do wrong? That's the thing I asked him,
Speaker 4: and he said, well, we just decided to go a
Speaker 4: different way, So you know, I was like, all right,
Speaker 4: that's that's fine. You know, what are you going to do?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: It sucks. We've all been there. I've been fired from
Speaker 3: a job before, but not funny story. I was hired
Speaker 3: to do a pilot for a sitcom. Was really big
Speaker 3: deal and I was so excited. My dad died like
Speaker 3: two weeks before. Oh no, I was already contracted to
Speaker 3: do this job and it was a comedy and I
Speaker 3: tried to shoot the pilot the best I could. I
Speaker 3: tried to be funny and light, but it just my
Speaker 3: body wasn't having it. You know. There was that cloud
Speaker 3: over me at that time, and that I got fired
Speaker 3: from that job, and it's never fun.
Speaker 5: I'll take rejection.
Speaker 3: As actors, I think we're kind of used to it,
Speaker 3: like not getting the job, getting the audition right, but
Speaker 3: have a job and then you lose it. You're like,
Speaker 3: it's you do kind of take it really personally when
Speaker 3: matter of fact is it's probably not a personal issue.
Speaker 3: It's not about you at all. It's about the character
Speaker 3: or the storyline, or the chemistry or all the things
Speaker 3: that go into it. But it's hard to not like
Speaker 3: take that as a personal blow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it can be disappointing for sure. You know,
Speaker 4: it's like you're constantly you know, until you get on
Speaker 4: a show like you guys, it goes for you know,
Speaker 4: as long as it would you guys do ten years. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: a long time until you get on something like that.
Speaker 4: You know, like I'm basically looking for a job every
Speaker 4: six months, you know, so that gets tough. And then
Speaker 4: you know, one year you kick butt and you make
Speaker 4: hundreds of thousands of dollars and then the next year
Speaker 4: you make sixty. You know, it's like that that that.
Speaker 2: Part was hard, right, and no one quite understands that world.
Speaker 2: They don't that it's so up and down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't know. It's it's hard for people to
Speaker 4: understand that. They just think that, oh, you're on a
Speaker 4: TV show, you're rich. It's like, well, you know, not always.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they also probably assume that you don't struggle
Speaker 3: with depression, like why would you be depressed? Like why
Speaker 3: would you not feel like on top of the world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we're all.
Speaker 3: You know, going through things no matter what our jobs are.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think absolutely. And that's a really good point.
Speaker 4: I was thinking about that the other day, you know,
Speaker 4: when I when I heard when I decided to do
Speaker 4: this with you guys, it was kind of going over
Speaker 4: my head, like just thinking, well, what am I going
Speaker 4: to talk about? And you know, what could some of
Speaker 4: the questions be? And it's I was actually thinking about
Speaker 4: that that people, you know, actors are just people. You know,
Speaker 4: we're not perfect people. We have issues, you know, we
Speaker 4: all have things we're wrestling with. And life is the
Speaker 4: same for us other than the fact that we're you know,
Speaker 4: a successful person on a television show or in movies
Speaker 4: or whatever. You know, So we are just people and
Speaker 4: it's what it all boils down to. And we all
Speaker 4: have our we have our own little personal problems too.
Speaker 4: You know, I think that people think that we're just
Speaker 4: perfect people and and our lives are so grand all
Speaker 4: the time. You know, we go through the same things
Speaker 4: that everybody else does.
Speaker 3: I'm curious when you were thinking this through, Like what
Speaker 3: what were you what what would make you decided not
Speaker 3: to talk to us today.
Speaker 4: I'm kind of in my own little world in a way,
Speaker 4: Like I have things that I like to do, and
Speaker 4: I've never been one that needed to be like famous,
Speaker 4: you know, like, oh, you know, check me out. That's
Speaker 4: not me, I don't. I heard a someone make a
Speaker 4: remark once. They were like, this is back in the
Speaker 4: day when I was working a lot. They were somebody
Speaker 4: had mentioned I read in an article. They said, this
Speaker 4: guy is hard to get information on because we don't
Speaker 4: see him anywhere. Like I didn't hang out in Hollywood.
Speaker 4: I was like, cool, I got more money, I can
Speaker 4: go fishing in Utah. You know. I would get in
Speaker 4: my Bronco and drive to Utah and fish for a
Speaker 4: week or two, or you know, like I'd go up
Speaker 4: to Sacramento to see my family and hang out and
Speaker 4: play golf. I've got an obsession with golf. I've played
Speaker 4: a lot of golf, and I play at a scratch level.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty good, but good as I want to be.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's something that I just love and
Speaker 4: I put a lot of time and effort into that.
Speaker 4: So but yeah, they I don't need that kind of attention,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But I think it's cool
Speaker 4: when somebody You know what I got to tell you, guys.
Speaker 4: A funny story. My neighbor across the street is we
Speaker 4: just see each other in passing a lot. Like I've
Speaker 4: lived in this house that I'm in for about fifteen years.
Speaker 4: I used to see him out in front when we
Speaker 4: park our cars. Hey, how you doing. What's up Sean?
Speaker 4: What's up Dalton? Blah blah blah. Well, about eight months ago,
Speaker 4: I get out of my car and he comes running
Speaker 4: up and he goes, Dalton. He goes, I didn't know
Speaker 4: you were Mark Reese on nine oh two one zero
Speaker 4: and I go yeah. He goes, I love that show.
Speaker 4: He goes, I've every single episode. I'm rewatching him now.
Speaker 4: He goes, I I'm watching it and I go, oh
Speaker 4: my god, that's Dalton. And he's like the most unassuming
Speaker 4: like fan, like he's this big manly guy. I just
Speaker 4: I thought it was pretty funny study.
Speaker 3: That it took him fifteen years to realize totally.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'm a lot older now.
Speaker 5: I mean, he looks the same exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah. You know, I've got a vision in my mind
Speaker 4: of what I look like, you know what I tell
Speaker 4: and it's like already maybe you know, twenty seven somewhere
Speaker 4: in there, and then yeah, yeah, and then my wife
Speaker 4: will go, hey, let's do a selfie and she'll take
Speaker 4: it and I'm like, let me see, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: that's what I look like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he wrote a book.
Speaker 3: That's that's a huge accomplishment.
Speaker 4: You know what I It is a huge accomplishment. I
Speaker 4: just went through and reread the whole thing the other day,
Speaker 4: and I'm getting set up to finish. I edited it,
Speaker 4: edited about half of it, and I'm sitting down getting
Speaker 4: ready to sit down and edit the other half. I
Speaker 4: have a bunch of notes and stuff, and I read
Speaker 4: the whole book through. It's about one hundred it's a
Speaker 4: small book. I call it the Little Book of Consciousness.
Speaker 4: It's about one hundred and fifty three pages. And I
Speaker 4: sat down and read it and I was like, wow,
Speaker 4: I can't believe that I wrote this, Like it's it's
Speaker 4: pretty cool. Like I never I never considered myself a writer,
Speaker 4: you know, I think we.
Speaker 3: All have that in us. But it sounds like you've
Speaker 3: been through, you know, a lot in your life of
Speaker 3: like just dealing with emotions and circumstances and where you
Speaker 3: are versus where you want to be, and where you
Speaker 3: want to be versus where you are. You know, this
Speaker 3: all stuff that everybody can relate to. So kudos to
Speaker 3: you for putting it down on paper.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you. Yeah, it was. It's a pretty cool accomplishment.
Speaker 4: I just I want to get it done. I haven't
Speaker 4: decided if I'm going to try and go the traditional
Speaker 4: route of publishing or if I want to self publish it.
Speaker 4: The only thing that bothers me is I've heard that
Speaker 4: sometimes if they take your book and they do a
Speaker 4: certain run, if that doesn't do as well as they thought,
Speaker 4: then they stop and it's not really yours. Or I
Speaker 4: don't know all the particulars, but I kind of might
Speaker 4: just self publish it. And if I mean, even if
Speaker 4: I gave it away for free, you know, it's if
Speaker 4: it can help somebody, you know, one one person I
Speaker 4: mean that's kind of cool. That's uh. I mean, ultimately
Speaker 4: that's what matters, you know, and that's the reason I
Speaker 4: wrote it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one person that resonates with one person and makes
Speaker 3: them feel less.
Speaker 4: Alone or yeah, absolutely, yeah, Well send.
Speaker 3: Us a copy when you get it ready.
Speaker 4: I will, I will do that.
Speaker 3: Well, we're so happy to be able to connect in
Speaker 3: I'm really happy we were able to talk.
Speaker 4: About that, and I was you too.
Speaker 5: I wanted to talk to you.
Speaker 3: But I was also slash nervous about it and just wondering,
Speaker 3: like where you had landed with all of that after
Speaker 3: all these years, and if it brought you know, talking
Speaker 3: about it brought back stuff. But I'm sorry for you know,
Speaker 3: my part in whatever happened. You know, if that had
Speaker 3: a negative effect on you in any.
Speaker 4: Way, that's awesome, Thank you, and I I'm sorry as
Speaker 4: well for my part. That's uh, I'm pretty shocked about
Speaker 4: that you're talking to me about that. I think that's
Speaker 4: really cool of you. God is smiling at you.
Speaker 3: Oh good.
Speaker 4: I think that's cool.
Speaker 3: It's really really nice to connect with you again.
Speaker 2: You're always so nice back then, So thank you for
Speaker 2: doing this interview.
Speaker 4: You got it and you were always so nice to Tori.
Speaker 1: Thank you all right.
Speaker 3: Good luck with your book.
Speaker 4: All right, thank you. I'll get you guys a copy
Speaker 4: when it's done. Please, thank you, you're welcome. Thank you. Okay,