1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: This is the huddle every Thursday from noon to two, 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: presented by hung the Services and Pacific Lampings Apply. 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: This is the huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus, and 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: Stacy Ross. The Seahawks are winners of two in a row, 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: getting a holiday win over the Tennessee Titans. And how 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: about this one, you guys, another comeback win. You have 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: had back to back great fourth quarters for this team. 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: We're going to get into what needs to happen earlier 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: in these games, but let's start with just to come back. Dave, 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: I'll start with you. I love the stat This was 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: from a Seahawks pr about back to back comeback wins 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: for two separate quarterbacks. I think they said it was 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: the last time since ninety nine or something crazy. 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 3: Like that, right, Yeah, And Pete knew that stat on 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: the plane because he told me that. I was like, 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 3: oh wow, I didn't know that, and he said, I 17 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: think it's some kind of NFL record or something. I 18 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: don't know, but yeah. So they also had another drive, 19 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: and I don't think that was They weren't consecutive, right, 20 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: the two scoring drives, the one in the I think 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: there's one of the third order where they had the 22 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 3: scoring drive and the DK touchdown gets overturned. But now 23 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: that's five for this team, right because Gino's had four 24 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: and Drew Locke has had one. And the thing that 25 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 3: occurs to me is that, like when we talk about quarterbacks, 26 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 3: it's like, is he the guy that can win a 27 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: game for you? And he did that five times. Now 28 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: you can look at the opponents. One was Cleveland, pretty 29 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: good team, one was the Commanders, one was Detroit, and 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: then Nashville or Tennessee. So and then you've got you know, 31 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: Drew Locke with the drive against Philly. So you know, 32 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 3: that's one of those things you want to have. You 33 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 3: want to have a quarterback and an offense that's able 34 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: to drive the field and win a game for you. 35 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 3: And that's that's what's happened five times. 36 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: What do you think about Geno's day in particular? 37 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 3: I liked it. 38 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 4: I think it started off rough. I think you know, 39 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 4: you see it for two weeks. I'm not saying two 40 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 4: weeks is going to just derail you as a human 41 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 4: being or a quarterback. But something's different, right, and then 42 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 4: you got to trust your body, right, is my growing fine? 43 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 4: Can I push off at the way I want to 44 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 4: You're testing it out, and it seemed like the ball 45 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 4: wasn't coming off with the same velocity as it was earlier. 46 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 4: But as the game went on, he got more comfortable 47 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 4: and more comfortable. You see him hitting JSN across the middle, 48 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 4: Tyler Lockett on the sideline. He seemed like to be 49 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 4: more in control. They only had the ball what three 50 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 4: times in the second half, so it's not like he 51 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 4: had lots of opportunities to try to fix it. I 52 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 4: think he went in at halftime probably calmed himself down. 53 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 4: Also want to show some love to Shane Waldron because 54 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 4: I feel like he called himself a good game as well. 55 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 5: I think he. 56 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 4: Understood where the holes were in the defense when it 57 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 4: come to throwing the football, and he exploited them. So 58 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 4: it was a combination of Gino kind of settling down, 59 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 4: Shane Waldron figuring out where to the attack this defense, 60 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 4: and overall Geno having a Geno type of a two 61 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 4: twenty seven to two touchdowns nor interceptions. 62 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: I'll start with you again for this one and then 63 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: head back to Dave. Speaking of the offense. One thing 64 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: that was different in this game compared to the game 65 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: against the Eagles was just the explosive place for ken Walker. 66 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: He did have a really good run for twenty four yards, 67 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: otherwise had thirty four yards on sixteen carries two point 68 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: one yards per carry. That's not really where you want 69 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: to see him, and he's capable of so much more. 70 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: What kept them from being able to get the rung 71 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: in going in this game compared to their game against 72 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 2: the Eagles just. 73 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 4: The strength of the Titans defense is that defensive line, 74 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 4: and even when they have Jeffrey Simmons missing, they were 75 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: still able to get a decent push. 76 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 5: And then I feel like ken Walker. 77 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 4: At times was looking for just the home run instead 78 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 4: of just falling forward. Sometimes you gotta be okay with 79 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: three or four yards on a carry and the push 80 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: from the defensive line, and ken Walker constantly looking for 81 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 4: the cutback. I felt like had something to do with it. 82 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 4: So they just weren't successful. When you resh the ball 83 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 4: twenty times for fifty eight yards two point nine per clip, 84 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 4: you never want to see that. 85 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 5: And then if you just take away that. 86 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: Long of ken Walker, man, you're heaving around what thirty 87 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: something yards when it comes to to run on the rock. 88 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 4: So I think it came down in matchups. We saw 89 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: Peters was in there for a little bit, but he 90 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 4: got banged up. I think I saw him leave the game. 91 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 4: They just won that matchup on the d line, honestly 92 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 4: won the matchup in ken Walker not being complacent, which 93 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: is falling forward for three yards. 94 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: We talked with Wyman, We talked with Kenny Albert, who's 95 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: going to be on the call for Seahawks dealers, and 96 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: we asked him if he could describe the Seahawks season, 97 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: you know, how he's feeling right now. He said he 98 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: would use the word resilient. And a lot of that 99 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 2: obviously has to do with not just their back to 100 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 2: back wins, but being able to have comeback wins like 101 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 2: each win they want it in the fourth quarter. Do 102 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 2: you think that makes almost more of a statement for 103 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: this team, like that's the kind of win that they needed. 104 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I mean I think it helps, 105 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: like I said earlier, going into you know, cause like 106 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: what do we hang our hats on as far as offense? 107 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 3: I mean, who are we you know, the identity and 108 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: it's like what do we do really well? Come back drives? 109 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: I mean that's yeah, really really much. Yeah, you know, 110 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: it's interesting you were talking about Kenny Walker and he 111 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: had one run for twenty four yards. You mentioned the 112 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: rest of it was fifteen for thirty yards, so we 113 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 3: ever two yards on every other run. I've kind of 114 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: grown into like, Okay, I'm it's kind of the cost 115 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 3: of doing business for him. Like a lot of times 116 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: he'll dance around in there, and when he was a rookie, 117 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: I was like, oh no, don't do that. But now 118 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, it didn't work in the Tennessee game, But 119 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: I feel like I kind of trust him. But I 120 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 3: do think in that game he should have gone more 121 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: North South. Look at they didn't have their best players 122 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: out there. But the one thing about that team is 123 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: that they'll hit you in the mouth and if you're 124 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 3: trying to run against their front seven. They're not super talented, 125 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 3: but they are a team that is very much like 126 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: their coach, They're going to be able to stop the run. 127 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: So but yeah, I don't know, is that maybe that 128 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: would be the question I would pose, is that maybe 129 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 3: the cost of doing business with Kenny Walker, that's he's 130 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: going to dance around, He's going to lose yardage or 131 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: get a one yard, two yard gain, but then every 132 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: once in a while, you know, he breaks it. He's 133 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: not having I don't think as good of a year. 134 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: And we were talking about this yesterday on our show. 135 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 3: Is this team better than last year's team? I feel 136 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: like it's kind of the same, kind of the same. 137 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 3: But you know, I don't know that Gino took a 138 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: huge step. I don't know that. I think Mafey did definitely, 139 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: but they're they're a little bit better, I think. But yeah, 140 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: I think with ken Walker it's it's tough as far 141 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: as already. At what point does you just say, hey, 142 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: put your foot in the ground and go to yourself. 143 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up Boy and Mafe because I 144 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: wanted to talk about the defense, so I wanted to 145 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: save like a good chunk of our open to do. 146 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: So. 147 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 2: There have been times in watching these two games where 148 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 2: I kind of shake my head at the defense. I 149 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: say this knowing that Julian Love had two interceptions, including 150 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: a game sealing interception against the Eagles. I say this 151 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: knowing you know that they were able to get pressure, 152 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: you know, laid against Dannehill and they were able to 153 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: get in there. And Boy and Mafey, you know, got 154 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: another sack. That being said, there have been times when 155 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: I've just felt so frustrated. I've seen the frustration from fans. 156 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: And yet and back to back weeks, this defense has 157 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: limited their opponents to seventy games or seventeen points apiece, 158 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: and that is pretty notable. I think, what's the what 159 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,119 Speaker 2: have they been able to do there? 160 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's a pretty good offense that you 161 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: faced against. I think what they did and what Pete 162 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: talked about, I don't it doesn't give me a warm 163 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: feeling when we talk about ropo dope run defense. 164 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to fool you. 165 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, the one thing you got to 166 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: look at is that, you know, they limited the big 167 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: explosive play. So against San Francisco, the top ten explosive plays, 168 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: the number ten play was twenty yards. The next week 169 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: the number one play was twenty yards. I mean it 170 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: wasn't till late. It was Jalen Hurts on a scramble. 171 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 3: So and then same thing, they had a twenty three 172 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: yard same position quarterback and Tannehill had like a twenty 173 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: three yard run and then that was pretty much it. 174 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: Everything else was in the team. So what's talking about, 175 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: Because you know, I'm the linebacker guy. I sit there 176 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: and look at it and I'm counting the gaps and 177 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: there's seven gaps and then there's six guys. So they 178 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: were obviously on purpose, you know, devoting more of their 179 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: resources to stopping the big play and the throws down 180 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: field and things like that, and it kind of suffered. 181 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: They suffered in the run game really in both games. 182 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: I think, you know, it was like one hundred and 183 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: sixty two and one hundred and seventy eight against Tennessee 184 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: and Philly. But this week, you know, and I'm jumping 185 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: the gun here a little bit, but you know, I 186 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 3: would feel like, you know, Tomlin late in the season 187 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 3: on the road, he's got two running. 188 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: Backs that have backup quarterback. 189 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, backup exactly, backup quarterback. And then you got, you know, 190 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: a couple of backs that have together about two hundred 191 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 3: more yards than we have total from everybody. So I'm 192 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: thinking that this week that's going to change. But it 193 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: worked right as far as eliminating the big plays, and 194 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: you know, you got a couple of wins there. So 195 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: it was kind of frustrating to watch, especially being a 196 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 3: line becker. But for the most part they limited them. 197 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: Hey, Bump, how do you work back in if you're 198 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 2: Clint hurt? And Pete Carroll Jamal Adams, assuming he plays. 199 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: Jamal Adams did return to practice yesterday. Pete Carroll, though, 200 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: would not commit in a press conference to making Jamal 201 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: the starter. He was just like, you know, we're just 202 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: gonna see. We're just gonna see what happens. Julians had 203 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: two good games. You do have a run game here 204 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: to think about with the Steelers. What do you do 205 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: with Jamal? 206 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 4: I think Julian should be the starter. I think he's 207 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 4: earned that. It wasn't given to him right. Opportunity was 208 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 4: given to him and he made the most of it. 209 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 4: He was already getting snaps, but obviously got more snaps. 210 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 4: I would use Jamal red zone and running situations. Clear 211 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 4: running situation, put him in the box and let him 212 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 4: do his thing. He's got seven TFLs so far this year. 213 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 4: And I would limit his snaps as well. Man, because 214 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 4: when you're coming back from that injury. Man, he's not 215 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 4: supposed to be out on the field right now. The 216 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 4: fact that he is playing football in twenty twenty three 217 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 4: at this point of the year is amazing to me. 218 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 5: So what do you do? You put him in situation 219 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 5: that he's best at. 220 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 4: And to me, that's getting after the quarterback, that's filling 221 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 4: gaps at the run, that's set in the edge, that's 222 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 4: filling the alley. That is everything to do with the 223 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 4: chaos of what's inside that box, right outside of the box. 224 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 5: First down, first and ten second, a long, third and long. 225 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 4: I think he throw. He let Julian do his thing. Now, 226 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 4: Julian go down and play in the box as well. 227 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,599 Speaker 4: It's just that's not what he does best. That's what 228 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 4: Jamal does best. So that's what I would do. Make 229 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 4: Jamal a tackler and not a coverage guy. 230 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, and also, Bump, I wanted to point out I 231 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 3: was driving in listening to you guys, and we talked 232 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: about it yesterday. So I'm an old man and I 233 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: played pickleball, right. I can still run and get going, 234 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 3: but I can't stop. And that's what's going on with Jamal. 235 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 3: And you were talking about cutting and stopping and you know, 236 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 3: planning your leg in the ground and shedding a blocker. 237 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 3: Those are the things he can't do. But he can 238 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: run straight ahead and kJ earlier in the in the 239 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 3: season was saying how Jamal needs to kind of slow down. 240 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 3: I don't think he can. I think it's one shot. 241 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: Remember that play against Cleveland where he shoots the gap 242 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: and runs right past the quarterback. He can't stop, you know, 243 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 3: and I feel like that's that's what's going on with him. 244 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 3: But I think that's exactly right. You put him in 245 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: there as a run stuffer and not you know, a 246 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: guy that's going to cover. 247 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: We got two more minutes here. Let's talk about another 248 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: name that could be coming back in, a name that 249 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: might not be either of you. Feel free to sound 250 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: off on how this could impact the game. Devin Witherspoon 251 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: could be coming back. Sounds good. Doesn't sound like Jordan 252 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: Brooks is going to be making it back. What does 253 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 2: it mean for this game? 254 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think. You know, first of all, 255 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: I think Devin Witherspoon's by far the best player on defense, 256 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: so happy to have him back. But yeah, I think 257 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: it'll suffer a little bit. You know, we'll get Devin 258 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: Bush as a great kid, and he you know, he's 259 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: a little undersized, but he brings a lot of pop. 260 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: I don't think it was so much you know, my 261 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 3: opinion kind of changed. I thought when Brooks, you know, 262 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: got hurt, I thought they kind of suffered against the run. 263 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: But really what it was was what we talked about earlier, 264 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: that they weren't necessarily dedicating a lot of resources to 265 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 3: stop on the run. So you know, he can plug 266 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 3: a hole. And I think if they and he comes 267 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 3: downhill and he's very fast, so I think you're definitely 268 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: going to miss JB. Just because he's a good player 269 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: and he's like the most solid, steady guy on that defense. 270 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: He never does wrong. So yeah, I think I think 271 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 3: it'll be okay as long as they approach it differently. Defensively, 272 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: I thought it was more about the approach than it 273 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: was any individual play. 274 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: All Right, we have a pair of Seahawks that are 275 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 2: going to join us back to back. Abe Lucas is 276 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: going to join us first. Devin Bush speaking of the 277 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: linebackers going to join us, coming up at twelve thirty. 278 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: This is the huddle. Don't go anywhere. 279 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: This he is the huddle presented by Hunt Services and 280 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: Pacific Lamping Supply every Thursday from noon to two on 281 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: Seattle Sports. 282 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 2: This is the huddle with Dave Wyman Michael Bumpus, and 283 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: Stacy Ross. Abe Lucas is going to be joined us 284 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: in just a few minutes. The Yawk's practice wrapping up 285 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: right now. Devin Bush to follow coming up at twelve thirty. 286 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: Before we get to it, I was curious to ask 287 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: Abe plenty of questions about the Seahawks offense, but also 288 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 2: whether or not he and the rest of the offensive 289 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: line got any gifts from GINO. Is that something that 290 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: exists with any other position group? Like did you ever 291 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: get gifts as a player? 292 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 5: Heck? No, no, no, I think that's the old line thing. 293 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 4: I mean, because they're so underappreciated, right, you have to 294 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 4: give them some love. I saw who got these guys. 295 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 4: Pat Mahomes got his guys golf carts. I believe a 296 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 4: good gift. Ah yeah, it's a good one. Drive around 297 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 4: the neighborhood. But no, you know, if I had a 298 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 4: golf cart, I've been trying to get my wife to 299 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: buy me a golf car for by three four years. 300 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 5: I go around Monroe. I would never drive my car 301 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 5: in town. 302 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: I truly think you'd be there, like you'd be like, guys, 303 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: I'll be in four hours taking the golf cart. 304 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 3: One year, I got the entire linebacker room a bottle 305 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 3: of dom Perignone to share. Yeah, they were selling it 306 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: at so I went and yeah, I got everybody once. 307 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 3: So that But other than that, no, usually not for 308 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: other positions. I used to try to whenever there was 309 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: a defensive tackle and we were out, I would buy 310 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: their drinks. 311 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 5: Here's they take care of us lineckers. 312 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: Right, Here's what I didn't wonder enough for Patrick Mahomes 313 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: to get his offensive lineman. You know golf carts. Hey, Patrick, 314 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: your contract is five hundred million dollars. You better be 315 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: getting them golf carts. However, a guy like Rock Purty, 316 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: what are you buying your offensive lineman? I mean, your 317 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: offensive linemen are making more than you are. 318 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: Exactly, you probably get them something low key, some massages 319 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 4: or something. 320 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: Did I do Chipotle coupons? 321 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 4: They probably aren't expecting much from brock honesty. They're like, 322 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 4: everyone has an idea what everyone else is making. 323 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 5: Obviously it's public knowledge. 324 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, if they're a good offensive linemen, they're not expecting. 325 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 4: They're not mad if they don't get something expensive. 326 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: I need to find out if he got them anything. 327 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: You know, they get free massages. Now they take people 328 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 3: with them on the road. There's two galves that really 329 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 3: I wish I knew their names, but yeah, they're they're 330 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 3: on every trip. So oh yeah, I guess the massage things. 331 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: You don't really need to do that anymore. Apparently they 332 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: didn't have that when you. 333 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 5: Were playing No massage envy. We used to go to 334 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 5: the back of the day. 335 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: I remember that. 336 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: Well, this is interesting from San Francisco newspaper s F 337 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: Gate Brock Perty got some financial help for getting gifts 338 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: for the players. Apparently Christian McCaffrey chipped in to get 339 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: some gifts for the offense. Each each teammate got a 340 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: personalized golf bag. Gifts are tit gate for a custom 341 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: fitted golf clubs and a bottle of tequila. Shout out, 342 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: Christian mccaffe I know that it's their opponents, you know, 343 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: we don't we don't want to shout them out, but 344 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: that's nice. Get another player with a sizable contract to 345 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: help you out. 346 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: What do you think he went and said, let's go 347 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 3: ninety ten on this. 348 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, what do you say? You know? I chip in, 349 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: I don't know, fifty bucks a person and then you 350 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: can do the rest, you know, like, how about that, 351 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the offense just a bit before Abe 352 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: gets here. Practice just drapped, so they should be in 353 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: just a moment. I think that we've seen a difference, 354 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: uh with this offense. Obviously since having most of the 355 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: offensive line back healthy. Has there been another difference that 356 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: either of you, Bump, I'll start with you have seen 357 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: when the with the offense. I mean it could be like, hey, 358 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: they're better on third down. It could be like they 359 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: figured this out, Like what's what's something that you've seen 360 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: change a little bit? 361 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 4: Tight ends, more tight end action, more screens. I feel 362 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 4: like JSN has kind of unlocked that. Bobo got himself 363 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 4: a couple as well. DK has gotten them one. Yeah, 364 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 4: that's what I would say is just getting the tight 365 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 4: ends involved more. Obviously got Kobe Parkinson with two touchdowns 366 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 4: in the last three weeks, one being a game winner. 367 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 4: You got Noah Fense with one big play against the 368 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 4: forty nine ers. Still waiting to see Will Disley kind 369 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 4: of get into the group, but I think now his 370 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 4: roles is more to be the blocking tight end. I 371 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 4: think when he does get a reception, it should be 372 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 4: a big one because no one's really anticipating him doing it. 373 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 4: So yeah, I would say that the Titans have been 374 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 4: more involved lately in the screen game, even though there 375 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 4: hasn't been a real big screen other than the one 376 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 4: Zach Charbaday had at home a few weeks ago, like 377 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 4: a thirty seven yarder. All the other ones, I've been 378 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 4: seven eight yard games, but those are just as good 379 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 4: as roun. 380 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 3: You remember a few years ago there was the Wildcat 381 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 3: and then came the fly sweep. This is the year 382 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 3: of the screen. My god. Everybody is running screens and 383 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: variations off of that. And you know, we got a 384 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 3: touchdown out of that from Kolbe Parkinson against the Niners 385 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 3: and gave up one to Cleveland on a you know 386 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: two double fake screen, you know, tight end bleeds down 387 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 3: the middle. It just seems like this year the screen 388 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 3: game has just been huge. But I think, you know, 389 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 3: the one thing I was looking at, Tyler Lockett hasn't 390 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 3: gone over one hundred yards this. 391 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: Year really in a single game. 392 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got like, I think ninety four eighty five, 393 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 3: and I thought he had a couple of very key 394 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 3: catches in that game against Tennessee, the one especially where 395 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 3: Gino I think it was on the last drive where 396 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 3: he just rockets up, climbs the pocket because there's pressure, 397 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: and he just threw through a fastball to Tyler Lockett. 398 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 3: He's right there. I mean, I feel like that guy's 399 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 3: going to explode. But you know, I think he's trusting 400 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: the receivers much more Gino Andrew that they're going to 401 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: make these ridiculous catches. They do. Dk just incredible some 402 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 3: of the catches that he's made, including the one in 403 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 3: Tennessee and a couple against the against Philly and then 404 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 3: jas Ent all of a sudden starting to come on. 405 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 3: So it's almost like, if you're Gino, you know, where 406 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: do you go? You get some targets, which is a 407 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: good thing. 408 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 2: Well, and thankfully you're going to have some time to 409 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: find them thanks to your offensive lineman, one of whom 410 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: abe Lucas joining us right now. And my first question 411 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 2: for you has nothing to do with the game coming 412 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: up this Sunday and everything to do with the gifts 413 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: that offensive lineman received. Did Gino and or Drew get 414 00:18:59,080 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: you guys anything? 415 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 3: Uh? 416 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 6: There was a like a wine decanter in my locker. 417 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 6: I don't know who it was from, though, and I 418 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 6: haven't really inquired. 419 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 5: So it could have been from I. 420 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 2: Was just I mean, like, did you take it home? 421 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 6: Oh, of course I took it home, but like a 422 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 6: bunch of people had him. I was like, oh, okay, 423 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 6: that's nice. And then I didn't ask who it was 424 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 6: from or anything. 425 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I had a little one of them. 426 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 3: Didn't have a card on it or anything. 427 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 6: No, it was like half wrapped in like a bag 428 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 6: and like you know, with all the paper around it, 429 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 6: but you could just totally see what it was. 430 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 5: So yeah, I just see you just pull it up 431 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 5: an all right, appreciate that. 432 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 3: Gay. 433 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 5: Have you been you played the whole game? 434 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 4: Last game, I think your first game bag you played 435 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 4: like fifty. 436 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 5: Percent and eighty percent and one hundred percent back. 437 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 4: Was that part of the plan or were they kind 438 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 4: of checking on, checking with you when you went to 439 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 4: the silence, see how you were feeling. 440 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 6: Oh, that was more so the plan of like the 441 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 6: first game. I think that was Dallas. They had told me, 442 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 6: you know, hey, you're gonna you're gonna probably go fifty 443 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 6: to fifty percent. It's like fine, and then you know, 444 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 6: they kept kept checking in on me throughout the game, 445 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 6: and then it was the Niners. Next week, the nine, 446 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 6: it was I thought it was gonna be fifty percent again. 447 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 6: And then I came out for one drive and then 448 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 6: they asked me like are you good and are you 449 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 6: good to go? And I was like, well, yeah, I 450 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 6: can go. And then They're like, okay, You're back in. 451 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 6: And then from then on it was just you know, 452 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 6: full reps. 453 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: Ye take it take you a while to get back 454 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 3: into the flow. I mean, you started as a rookie. 455 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 3: I mean most guys don't. And so you did you 456 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 3: feel like you got a little bit interrupted or were 457 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 3: you able to keep that same flow that you had 458 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 3: from last year? 459 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 5: Uh? 460 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 6: I mean I don't really. I don't really look at it, 461 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 6: look at it as I can continuation. I kind of 462 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 6: look at is it's like year to year type thing. 463 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 6: I mean, obviously this year for me has been different 464 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 6: because I've missed most of the year, But I would 465 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 6: say that I'm still kind of getting back into it, 466 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 6: you know. I mean there are a lot of guys 467 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 6: who played a lot more football this year than I have, 468 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 6: and it takes It's not that it takes a while 469 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 6: to get going, but you know, reps are the most 470 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 6: important thing and when you have guys who've already had 471 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 6: thousands of reps this year, and then you know, as 472 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 6: somebody like me who's trying to get to that mark 473 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 6: and just you know, get myself going. So I'm just 474 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 6: continuing to move forward in that regard. 475 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: What was that process coming back, like, I mean, like, 476 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: I'm sure there were different levels too. First I'm doing nothing, 477 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: then I'm able to do walk through. Then I'm sure 478 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 2: the entire time you were in meetings, what was going 479 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 2: on behind the scenes kind of ramping up to your return. 480 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 6: So initially after after my little injection that I got, 481 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 6: actually wasn't like around the building for a couple weeks 482 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 6: at all, and that was just mainly for like they 483 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 6: want to meet a rest as much as I could, 484 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 6: and I couldn't really walk because it hurt. So I 485 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 6: was just kinda yeah, I was just kind of I 486 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 6: was staying at home, I was watching football, try I 487 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 6: was trying to stay busy, you know, not go stir crazy. 488 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 6: And then, like you said, I kind of worked my 489 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 6: way progressively back into meetings and then meetings and you know, 490 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 6: maybe one or two walkthroughs, and then you know, started 491 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 6: being like non contact sort of things so yeah, it's 492 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 6: just a gradual building. 493 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 4: To two games, two game winning drives, two different quarterbacks. 494 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 4: What are the differences in the similarities of the huddle 495 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 4: when you guy Drew leading the charge for a game 496 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 4: winner and Gino leading the charge for a game winner. 497 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 6: I don't I don't know if there's too many, too 498 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 6: many differences, honestly, I mean, the only difference is that 499 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 6: they're not the same person, Like in my mind, I mean, 500 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 6: I mean for me and for the old line, it's it's. 501 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 3: All the same. 502 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 6: You know, we gotta block, and we gotta you know, 503 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 6: do our assignments, and you know, it doesn't really matter 504 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 6: who's behind us. 505 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 5: We just protect for him. 506 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 3: Hey, we were just talking about it seems like to me, 507 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 3: maybe I'm wrong, but it just seems like this is 508 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 3: the year of the screen. Everybody's running screens all the time. 509 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 3: Is that the timing on that you know, you've got 510 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 3: to do a fair amount of acting right, Like you 511 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 3: can't let that defensive lineman know that you're letting him 512 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 3: go right? That is that a play that you guys 513 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 3: run that it takes a particular amount of practice and 514 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 3: reps and things like that. It seems like some guy. 515 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 3: They say, some teams are good at screens, some aren't. 516 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 3: What do you think about about the execution of that? 517 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 3: Is that something that just comes from practice? 518 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,479 Speaker 6: I mean, I would say just more or less comes 519 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 6: from practice. I mean more teams some teams do it 520 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 6: more than others, obviously, but some teams, like, you know, 521 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 6: it's part of their scheme more, you know what I mean. 522 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 6: And so you know, some teams practice it a lot, 523 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 6: some teams practice it sometimes. And I mean every play 524 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 6: kind of has its own special technique that you can use, 525 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 6: depends on the front, you're looking at, who you're going 526 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 6: against and all that. So there's a lot of factors 527 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 6: that kind of contribute to that. 528 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: When Russell Wilson was still here, we used to always 529 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: ask offensive lineman because he would obviously have these scramble 530 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: plays or he'd randomly end up somewhere else, and we 531 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 2: used to always ask offensive woman, like, what's it like 532 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 2: blocking for you know, a mobile quarterback at the time 533 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 2: early in his career. It's like mobile quarterbacks A bit 534 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: different when it comes to a running back because there 535 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 2: are plenty of guys that you know, can can be 536 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 2: really explosive. But have you ever had that moment with 537 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: Ken Walker where you're like, how did he how did 538 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 2: he get twenty yards downfield? Like he just has these 539 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 2: crazy plays. Have you had that moment? 540 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, all the time. 541 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 6: I mean Ken's special running back, you know, and this 542 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,959 Speaker 6: early in his career looks like it's obviously very promising. 543 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 6: I mean we're part of the same class. Some of 544 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 6: the stuff that he's able to do is just like, 545 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 6: I mean, you can't help but just like be like wow, 546 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 6: you know, and it's it's it's great for like us 547 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 6: as oldlignement because it's like if you miss a block 548 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 6: and he makes his way out of it, then it's 549 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 6: like okay, like it wasn't as bad as maybe it looked, 550 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 6: you know. 551 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 5: So that's nice. 552 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 2: You could still claim the block, like you know, a 553 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 2: cornerback will be like not on me. All I think 554 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 2: you should. I think you should do the equivalent of that, 555 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: like just start flexing. 556 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 5: I don't know if that's really much. 557 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 2: Probably all right. He is a Lucas kind enough to 558 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: join us after practice and chat about about this game 559 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: and this team for a bit. Thank you so much. 560 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Yeah, all right, you guys, we are 561 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: gonna have Devin Brush joining us next. Don't go anywhere. 562 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: This this he is the Huddle presented by Hunt Services 563 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: and Pacific Lamping Supply every Thursday from noon to two 564 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: on Seattle Sports. 565 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 2: You are listening to the huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bambas, 566 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: Stacy Ross and joining us right now, right out of practice, 567 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 2: Devin Bush. Devin, how's it going. I was so sad 568 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: to hear the thing is bump and women were like, yeah, 569 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 2: welcome to the life of a player that you You 570 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: guys don't really get to do much Christmas celebrating when 571 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: you're so far from home. Did you just take it easy? 572 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: Did you buy yourself a gift like we did? 573 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 5: We did see your sanna for the linebacker room. 574 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,959 Speaker 2: So yeah, you have. 575 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 5: I had Darren Bates, what you gain? 576 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 7: I got a whole bunch of stuff, So limit was 577 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 7: like fine and all this, Yeah, multiple gifts and stuff 578 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 7: like that, so it was cool. 579 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 4: Almost messed up my white my white senna. I have 580 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 4: my sister in law and I didn't know I'm sitting 581 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 4: there at our celebration and my other systems like what 582 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 4: you get? What are you talking about? Because you didn't 583 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 4: get the email? So I had to run to the 584 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 4: store real quick. Email email, Come. 585 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 3: On now, get the email. 586 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 4: You got my number, check my real real professional in 587 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 4: the bumper's household. 588 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: But calendar. 589 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 4: Right, man, but you've been you've been getting some run man. 590 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 4: You look you look comfortable out there. Man, it's uh, 591 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 4: what's it like? Because offensively, right, when you switch playbooks, 592 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 4: the language is so different, but the concepts are the same. 593 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 5: What's it like? Defensive? Defensively? 594 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, cover two is the two, there's 595 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 4: the three. You know, this is the blitz? Like what 596 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 4: was that transition lie from the playblook? 597 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it was more language first for the 598 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 7: first like a couple of months. Uh, it goes like language, 599 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 7: then it goes like rules, and then like after rules, 600 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 7: it's kind of like, all right, who am I playing with? 601 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 7: You know, who was in front of me? Who's my 602 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 7: three tech? Who was my nose? 603 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 3: Who's my end? 604 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 5: Who's my linebacker? Who's my safety corner? 605 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 7: So you kind of got to start like understanding how 606 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 7: you play off one another. You know, whether you know, oh, snap, 607 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 7: this three texts fast field or this three tech kind 608 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 7: of kind of holds, you know, or across his face 609 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 7: faster than the other one. So like stuff like that. 610 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 7: It's like small stuff, you know, just more repetition things 611 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 7: like that. 612 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 3: So I went from here to Denver and we're in 613 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 3: the same division, so we played him twice a year. 614 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: Tended to get pretty fired up playing the Seahawks. Yeah, 615 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 3: it was. It was a good timing for you. You're 616 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 3: probably gonna be out there at. 617 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 7: Like I just got to say, you guys, just you 618 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 7: gotta just look at God work, you know, Like this 619 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 7: whole year, I've been just knocking on the door, knocking 620 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 7: on the door and then lo and behold. 621 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 5: Like I didn't come here to play the Stellers, you 622 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. 623 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 7: I didn't sign there for That means the opportunity to 624 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 7: just present this stuff is. 625 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 5: Kind of like, man like, I couldn't scripted this. 626 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, opportunity came and this is what it is now a. 627 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 3: Little little extra excitement or you're probably fired up for 628 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 3: every game. 629 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm always fired up for every game, but I 630 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 7: think this one's like more for me. 631 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 5: Is not because of the formal team. 632 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 7: I think it's just the opportunity and the circumstances we 633 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 7: in right now. So everything is like a must win, 634 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 7: so to you know, to go out there and just perform, 635 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 7: you know, and and prove of my teammate is like 636 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 7: I'm here for the team, you know, so you know, 637 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 7: I mean I couldn't. 638 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 5: I couldn't. I couldn't have scripted this. 639 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 7: I mean I didn't script this, of course, but I 640 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 7: couldn't want it any differently. 641 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 2: You know, Now, you guys on defense had to do 642 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: your job. You've held your opponents in two weeks to 643 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 2: seventeen points, but you've also in both games been standing 644 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 2: on the sideline having to watch the offense get back 645 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 2: into it. What's that like? 646 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 5: It's tough. I mean, you can't do much, you know, 647 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 5: throw It's like I got hands, you know, you're just 648 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 5: sitting in the side, justatching the game. 649 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 7: Like those these last two games, it's just less to 650 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 7: like the last like going to the last drive, you 651 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 7: just you don't know what to expand I ain't know it. 652 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 7: I ain't know they're gonna throw a bomb in the jig, 653 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 7: but I ain't know that. I just seen the ball 654 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 7: in there next year, know we caught it. So it's 655 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 7: like you don't know. You just you just got to 656 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 7: do your job and just get it to do is 657 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 7: as much opportunity as they can and kind of just 658 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 7: limit you know what other teams, you know, just putting 659 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 7: points on the board. 660 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh had a game last week. 661 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 5: George Pickings goes nuts. 662 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 4: Alright, what eighty something yard touchdown sixty six? 663 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 5: Uh. 664 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 4: But when you look at this team, I feel like 665 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 4: they're gonna want to try to run the football with 666 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 4: their two backs, with Nause and then with Warren as well. 667 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 4: Is that the feeling you guys get. It's gonna be 668 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 4: a physical type of game. 669 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 7: One hundred percent. I mean that's just the type of 670 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 7: type of style they bring anywhere to go. I mean, 671 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 7: they got those two backs for a reason, and obviously 672 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 7: they don't have a picket back there, so I mean 673 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 7: what else would you do? Right, So I mean, yeah, 674 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 7: they they gonna bring it. 675 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. They're gonna run the ball. 676 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 5: I mean we used to. 677 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 7: I'm in this is where you know, this helps me 678 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 7: out because Ice being nine on seven with those guys 679 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 7: for four years. So it's like I gotta feel for 680 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 7: and I gotta you know, I gotta if for. You 681 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 7: know what to look for and what to see and 682 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 7: how they move and who they want to run with, 683 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 7: run behind, situation and stuff like that. 684 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were talking about that backup quarterback. It's late 685 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 3: in the season, you want to run the ball on 686 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,959 Speaker 3: the road. And then you know Mike Tomlin right. So, 687 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 3: and he's always been one of those guys I look 688 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 3: at it, go I wish I'd played for him. Tell 689 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 3: us a little bit about his personality and the stamp 690 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: that he puts on that team. 691 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, he's just he's he's one of those 692 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,479 Speaker 7: one of those dudes where like, you know, his his 693 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 7: his actions. 694 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 5: You know, he's like more of action leader, you know. 695 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 7: You know, he's in the building all the time, he's 696 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 7: watching film all the time, he's talking about football all 697 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 7: the time. So I mean, if hey, coach is doing that, 698 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 7: you don't have no choice but to you know, kind 699 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 7: of follow suit. So I mean he's a real life 700 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 7: football you know junkie. You know, he really loved the history. Again, 701 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 7: He'll come in, he would come in and like team 702 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 7: meetings and talk about like the history of like you know, 703 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 7: the matchups you know, dating back. 704 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 5: From like eighties and nineties, you know what I'm saying. 705 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 5: So it's like he's just a football junkie. You just 706 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 5: love football. 707 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 7: So that's the top of energy he bring bring to 708 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 7: the team, and you know they want the same thing. 709 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 7: They just kind of want to be football junkies as well. 710 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: All right, he is Devin Bush kind enough to join us. 711 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: You guys actually have a playoff clinching scenario this weekend, 712 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: which is never thought that we'd be rooting for a tie, 713 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: but here we are. If you guys win, which knock 714 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: on wood, Yeah, that's exactly what happens. That's the half 715 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 2: that you can control, and then a time yeah, and 716 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: then a tie between the Vikings and Packers, and you 717 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: guys are in. I mean, I never thought i'd be 718 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 2: rooting for it. 719 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 5: The Vikings won. 720 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 2: First, so they so there's a weird thing where like. 721 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 5: You say tie, they got to go. 722 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 2: They got a tie, no tie like tie the game. 723 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, so here's the thing. Hypothetically, we want the 724 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 2: Vikings to keep losing, so it's like ideally tie because 725 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: if they tie and you guys win, you guys are in. 726 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: If the Packers win, it's still good because it still 727 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 2: pushes Minnesota back. But it's not a playoff clinching scenario. 728 00:30:58,920 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: It's a it's a very. 729 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 5: His reaction is perfect. 730 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: I know. 731 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 7: I thought right now, I'm like, we gotta win, we win, punching, like, 732 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 7: how are you going to end the game? 733 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 8: Tie? 734 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 5: I don't even matter, Devin. 735 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you and our listeners that Sunday Night football, 736 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,239 Speaker 2: if there is a tie, you guys have punched your 737 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 2: ticket as long as you win. So that is a 738 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 2: very cool over the world over overtime and. 739 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 5: Overtime hit zeros. 740 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: There hasn't been one this season, but if it happened. 741 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 5: Honestly, that's possible. 742 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 2: It's possible. 743 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 3: Is this soccer. 744 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: I'm just. 745 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 5: It's possible. But like, didn the White Vikings win the 746 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 5: first one? 747 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 9: Yeah? 748 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 5: They lost? They lost? I thought they won. They lost? 749 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 4: Lines beat them? You mean the first time? The pack 750 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 4: don't know the Vikings and the Packers. 751 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 5: I don't like that. I think the Vikings won the 752 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 5: first one. 753 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 2: Did they still have Kirk though? 754 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 5: I believe so? 755 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, in Green Bay they have just. 756 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 2: I don't know, damn, I know. Did they did lose 757 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: Hawkinson for the season. I gotta let you go. We're 758 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: keeping you late. But all right, Devin, thank you so much. 759 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 2: Good luck on Sunday. That's the half. You guys got 760 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: to control. We appreciate you joining us. All right, you guys, 761 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 2: don't go anywhere. We're gonna hear from Geno Smith. 762 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 4: Next. 763 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: This This is the Huddle presented by Hunt Services and 764 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: Pacific Lamping Supply every Thursday from noon to two Seattle Sports. 765 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to Gino speaking with reporters. Now, 766 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 2: kind of feel like you're. 767 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 10: Going into a normal week after all the ups and 768 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 10: downs of injuries and uncertainty and all that. 769 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, it feels pretty normal. You know, still taking. 770 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 12: Care of everything as far as rehabbing and getting myself ready, 771 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 12: you know for Sunday. I feel like at this point 772 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 12: in the season that's every single player on every roster, so, 773 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 12: you know, just trying to get as healthy as I 774 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 12: can and be ready for Sunday. 775 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 13: About Pittsburgh, obviously they're quite good. TJ watser thing, but 776 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 13: like what else. 777 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 8: Kind of. 778 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 12: Well, yeah, starts with you know TJ wat seventeen sacks. 779 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 12: You know, one of the better defensive defensive players in 780 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 12: the league. 781 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 11: Great edge guy, you know, a guy who he has 782 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 11: it all. 783 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 12: You know, he's got the bull rush, he's got you know, 784 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 12: quicks on the edge. He's really good at punching the 785 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 12: ball out, causing causing have it getting turnover to them, 786 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 12: and also great at you know, baton balls at the 787 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 12: line of scrimmers. So just being mindful of where he 788 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 12: is at all times, you know, knowing that we have 789 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 12: to have a plan for him and be able to 790 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 12: make sure that he is impacting the game the way 791 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,719 Speaker 12: that he has. And then overall, you know, Mike Tomlin 792 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 12: coach team. Uh, a defense that that plays hard, that 793 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 12: gives you, gives you multiple looks. They're gonna go out there, 794 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 12: they're gonna fight, they're gonna compete. They lead the league 795 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 12: and turnover differential, they're plus ten right now, and uh, 796 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 12: you know, they get a lot of turnovers, and you 797 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 12: can see they're. 798 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 11: In a lot of close games. 799 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 12: They figure out ways to win at the end, they 800 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 12: keep believing, they keep fighting. Very similar to how we 801 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 12: are and how we're built. So a great defense, a 802 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 12: lot of good players on that side, some young players, 803 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 12: but uh another challenge. You know, they got Hyght Smith 804 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,719 Speaker 12: on the other side, who's uh he got about seven sacks, 805 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 12: but I think he's got two interceptions. 806 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 11: Uh, you know, a couple force fumble. 807 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 12: So, uh, couple guys on that side, we gotta be 808 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 12: uh very mindful of. 809 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 14: You see, in the way that they feel the most 810 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 14: of the secondary. 811 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 2: They've had a lot of injuries and. 812 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 14: And now Patrick Peterson's played in a position and there's 813 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 14: a rookie. 814 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 15: Starting it for him. 815 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 11: Yeah. 816 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 12: Shoot, man, I feel like I've been pl playing Pat. 817 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 12: You know, it's my entire life since high school to 818 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 12: see him transition into to safety. He's always been an athlete. 819 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 12: He's always been able to play all the positions. And 820 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 12: I don't think that's no difference, you know. I think 821 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 12: he's always gonna be a impact player. That's just the 822 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 12: type of guy he is. Uh, type of ability that 823 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 12: he has. And then yeah, a rookie corner, but uh, 824 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 12: he's out there, he's playing like a vet. 825 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 11: You know, he's he's uh, he's got a lot of confidence. 826 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 15: Uh. 827 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 12: You know, a taller, slid, more slender guy, long arms. 828 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 12: Uh seems like he does well in and out of 829 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 12: break So, uh, another guy we gotta be you know, 830 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 12: on top of and make sure that you know, when 831 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 12: we're going at him replacing the ball in the right places. 832 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 12: They got a lot of talent, talented guys on that defense, 833 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 12: on that team, and uh, we expect them to come in. 834 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 12: They're fighting for their season, so we expect them them 835 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 12: to come in and uh be prepared. 836 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: Are you do? 837 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 2: You know? 838 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 3: What? 839 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 11: Are your thought so much? Russell Wilson's going through just 840 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 11: hears talk about Steelers? Kay, so free three? 841 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 3: Was that? 842 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 15: Wasn't this? 843 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 11: Was that a message of support for him? 844 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 15: Uh? 845 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm talking about the still us today. Okay, thank you. 846 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 14: The run game has been a little bit hit and miss. 847 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,919 Speaker 14: You're getting the yards through the air, and you're getting 848 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 14: the points that you need. What would have any more 849 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 14: yards on the ground do for options and just. 850 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 2: The offensive shut? 851 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think again, more yards on the ground in 852 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 12: the air, however we can get 'em. It's gonna help 853 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 12: our offense, gonna help any offense. We always talk about 854 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 12: being balanced. That's a huge thing here. Uh, it's a 855 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 12: big part of who we wanna be as an offense. 856 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 12: And so the more we can run the ball, the 857 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 12: more efficient we can be in the running game. Uh, 858 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 12: it'll open up everything else for our passing game, for 859 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 12: our play action, uh, for the boots and the nakeds. 860 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 11: Uh, it all works together. 861 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 12: And it also allows the line to get settled in, 862 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 12: allow those guys to uh, you know, move guys, get 863 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 12: their feet moving, start to dominate games, take over games. Uh. 864 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 12: It just helps out in a bunch of ways. So 865 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 12: of course that's something we gotta stay on top of. 866 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: Does it matter what. 867 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 14: The anual balance isn't necessarily mean in fifty to fifty? 868 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 14: Does it matter what the yard, how the yards are 869 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 14: distributed when you look at the final box for as 870 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 14: long as the deserts. 871 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't think stats matters long The only stat 872 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 12: that matters is a win. You know, I don't think 873 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 12: any of those stats really matter if you don't win. 874 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 12: But obviously, you know, you wanna be efficient in all 875 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 12: you know, uh, aspects of the game. And so whether 876 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 12: that's passing, whether that's running third down, red zone, you know, 877 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 12: it's all about being efficient. And uh that's a that's 878 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 12: a big part of our offense. So uh, as long 879 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 12: as we win, I could care less about how the 880 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 12: numbers look. Uh, that's something we'll fix later. But uh, 881 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 12: obviously we wanna just be efficient and be and be 882 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 12: great at all things. 883 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 11: Oh how critical agesy be efficient inside the red the 884 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 11: red zone, you know, with the balance the attack that 885 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 11: you're talking. 886 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 12: About it now, Yeah, fifte, you know, the red zone 887 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 12: is all about positive plays. You know, it's a shorter 888 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 12: feel for the defense, right, so they obviously have that advantage. 889 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 12: And as an offense, you know, you just want to 890 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 12: continue to you know, if you can't move the chains, 891 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 12: continue to move the ball forward. You know, if you 892 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 12: get any negative plays in the red zone, it'll kind 893 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 12: of set you back. So you know, for us, we 894 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 12: just talk about being positive around the league. The yards 895 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 12: per rush is going to be down, the yards per 896 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 12: pass is going to be down because of the shortened field, 897 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 12: So you just want to make sure that you're being 898 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 12: getting positive runs, you know, two and three yard runs, 899 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 12: being able to move the chains, and then once you 900 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 12: get inside that five, you know, just finishing the drive 901 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 12: with the touchdown, whether that's a pass or run. So 902 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 12: being efficient down there in the red zone is big too. 903 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 2: You say, Dan Marino and Damn Hewart sent. 904 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 5: You a gift, is that right? 905 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 11: Yeah? Yeah, that was cool? Was that for the history 906 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 11: that they referenced? 907 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 3: There was that? 908 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 11: Yeah, two different quarterbacks leading. 909 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 12: Yeah, Damon Hewart and Dan Marino, they did it, and 910 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 12: I guess Izzo was actually on that team, so he 911 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 12: might be the common denominator and all this, and you 912 00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 12: know they did it back then, and Drew and I 913 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 12: were to kind of, uh do that, you know, these 914 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 12: past couple of weeks. So it was cool to get 915 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 12: that from them. Dann Marino has always been one of 916 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 12: my favorite quarterbacks, and uh, that's something I'll I'll hold 917 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 12: on to forever. 918 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 5: Were you a Dolphins sand grown up? 919 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 11: Uh, wasn't a Dolphins fan, but was a Marino fan? 920 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 13: Did you get it out on the fact that you 921 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 13: can ended up gonna seem to score the games either 922 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 13: for both you and jo. 923 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 12: I know, I actually just realized that and that was 924 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 12: you know, it's kind of how football is sometimes, man. 925 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,919 Speaker 12: It just kind of happens like that seventeen to twenty, uh, 926 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 12: you know, both games, and you know, that was pretty cool, man, 927 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 12: just for both of us to have that moment, especially 928 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 12: for Drew to have that moment, and uh, for it 929 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 12: to come out the way that it has, you know, 930 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:34,959 Speaker 12: that's pretty cool. 931 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 11: You hit Jackson for that twenty yarder to start the ninety. 932 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 16: Six yard drive. 933 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 13: He hit the third down on. 934 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 5: The last drive. 935 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 11: Obviously a couple of game winners this year. 936 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 10: What what about him as a rookie makes him come through. 937 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 11: In those big moments. 938 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: Uh. 939 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 11: I think it starts with his confidence. He's from day one. 940 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 12: Uh, Jackson's been the guy that's been extremely confident in 941 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 12: his ability. He wants the football, you know, and so 942 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 12: those pressure moments. He's played a ton of big games 943 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 12: at Ohio State. Uh, he's been the too guy all 944 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 12: his life. So he wants the ball and in those moments, 945 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 12: he knows, you know, it's gonna probably come to him 946 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 12: and he just gets to the right spot. He's got 947 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 12: great hands, he makes uh makes the tough catches look easy. 948 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 12: And uh, you know, he's a dynamic player. He's a 949 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 12: guy if they want to double DK and they want 950 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 12: a double Tyler. Uh, he's another guy that can win 951 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 12: his one on ones. And I think he's continued to 952 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 12: show that, you know, over the course of the season. 953 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 14: Uh. 954 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 12: Way back in shoot when we were in Miami throwing, 955 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 12: Uh kind of kind of hit him with a pass 956 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 12: and kind of hurt his finger a little bit, and 957 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 12: most guys would kind of shut it down and be like, 958 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,479 Speaker 12: you know what, let's come. 959 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 11: Back another day. 960 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 12: He went inside, wrapped it up, came right back out 961 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 12: and finished the drill, and so that that to me 962 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 12: spoke volumes about who he is. 963 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 2: We are going in the trenches with Ray Roberts. Next. 964 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 3: This is the Huddle. 965 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: From Noon to to, presented by hung the Surfaces. 966 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 2: Entering hour two of a two hour Seahawks preview. It 967 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: is the huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus, and Stacy 968 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 2: Ross and joining us right now, Ray Roberts. We are 969 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 2: going in the trenches. Ray. We just had Abe Lucas 970 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 2: on the show in the last hour and we were 971 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 2: talking to him about kind of like that journey back 972 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 2: from injury and how long it takes to kind of 973 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,959 Speaker 2: like integrate yourself back into the offensive line. How hard 974 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 2: can that be for an offensive lineman when so much 975 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 2: of what matters with that position group is chemistry and 976 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 2: time together. 977 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 17: Well, it can be. 978 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 16: Can you guys hear me all right? 979 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 9: Because I have your speakerphone. 980 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 16: Yep, we got you, Okay, Yeah, it can be difficult 981 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 16: sometimes because of the timing of like playing with the 982 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 16: guy beside you, whether it's to guard or to tackle, 983 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 16: and then also just you individually getting back into the 984 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 16: rhythm of the game, the speed of the game. The 985 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 16: physicality of the game because you don't have all of 986 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 16: that in practice, and most of your practices are in 987 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 16: like shells most of the time. 988 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 9: So you're trying to come. 989 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 16: Back to a really super physical football game without being 990 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 16: able to be super physical on your way back. 991 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 9: So it can be a little bit challenge. 992 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 16: I've had to do it a few times in my career, 993 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 16: you know, every every other year. I missed a couple 994 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 16: of games here and there, and so it was kind 995 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 16: of a little bit difficult getting back into it. But 996 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 16: but I think Abe and and Bradford have worked well together. 997 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 16: I think that going down the stretch here to be 998 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 16: important for them to really kind of get connected with 999 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 16: the running back and the running game to really make 1000 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 16: that thing work, because to me, that's where the magic 1001 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 16: is going to be for the Seos offense. 1002 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 4: Hey, Ray, I'm looking at obviously got Watt coming into town. 1003 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 4: He has what seventeen sacks, he leads the league. How 1004 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,479 Speaker 4: do you defend a guy like him? I mean, maybe 1005 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 4: you don't, maybe you try to contain him, but what 1006 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 4: would be your approach? 1007 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 16: Well, the thing is is like a guy like him, man, 1008 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 16: he's gonna make some plays, right, You just hope that 1009 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 16: he doesn't make plays that they're gonna like grossly impact 1010 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 16: negatively impact the game for your offense. So you're gonna 1011 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 16: have to send tight ends at him, You're gonna have 1012 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 16: to send running backs at him. 1013 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 9: You're gonna have to you know. 1014 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 16: Chip a lot and pass protection. But the dude is 1015 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 16: he to me, he's one of the harder dudes to 1016 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 16: defend because even when he when he's blocked, he's really 1017 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,399 Speaker 16: good at jumping up and knocking the ball down. He'll 1018 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 16: find another pathway to the quarterback if you if you 1019 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 16: stop him from getting around the edge, he just keeps 1020 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 16: working until he finds a place to get to the quarterback. 1021 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 16: So I think the thing you have to obviously like 1022 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,359 Speaker 16: break the huddle, know where he is, Finn help his way. 1023 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 16: I would probably you probably better off running the ball 1024 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 16: at him, running play action at him versus h versus 1025 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 16: the other way. And so, but the chips and the 1026 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 16: you know, giving him more people to work through is 1027 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 16: gonna be important. And then you know, like he mostly 1028 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 16: rushes over the right tackle. So big Abe is gonna 1029 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 16: have to be the big ad that we thought he was, 1030 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 16: you know, before he was all hurt and stuff. He's 1031 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 16: a big, strong dude. He's very gifted at pass protection. 1032 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,919 Speaker 16: He did it well in college, he's done it well 1033 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 16: in the NFL. So it'll be a big challenge for him. 1034 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 16: So part of the time, like you're gonna have to 1035 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 16: take your shots when when Abe is gonna have to 1036 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 16: block him by himself, and then other times you're gonna 1037 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 16: have to use a running back and the tight end 1038 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 16: to kind of chip at him. 1039 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 3: Hey, Ray, have you spoken with Anthony Bradford at all? 1040 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 9: I am not. I have not had a chance to 1041 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 9: speak to him. 1042 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 3: Well, I bring it up because he reminds me of you, 1043 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 3: Like he is a he's a very like aggressive, fiery 1044 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 3: player and you know he he drew a penalty the 1045 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 3: other day and I saw, you know, afterwards there's a 1046 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 3: flag and I'm like, oh, no, man, because he's gotten 1047 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 3: into little scuffles and things like that. But he's a 1048 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 3: super nice kid. But he you know, he's just got 1049 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 3: that that fire which can either help you or hurt you. 1050 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 3: And I feel like he's you know, he's it's helping 1051 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,280 Speaker 3: him and that he's a he's a similar type of player. 1052 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 3: Did you how did you use that as a player 1053 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 3: without getting in too much trouble. 1054 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 16: Well, I've got like, uh, you know, that's what I 1055 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 16: can identify with the DK Metcalfs of the world, because 1056 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 16: you know, we're people are complaining over DK for basically 1057 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 16: three penalties a fourth one to me, like he deserved 1058 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 16: he needed to go push that dude in the mouth. 1059 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 16: But but that's just kind of part of it. 1060 00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 17: Man. 1061 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 16: If you can't play on the edge like that, then 1062 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 16: I don't know, maybe it's not the right game, you 1063 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 16: know what I'm saying, Like, you have to be willing 1064 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 16: to go as far as it will possibly take you, 1065 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 16: just so that you know how far you can go. 1066 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,439 Speaker 16: And so I think you have to be I much 1067 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 16: rather have a guy that I got to dial back 1068 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 16: than a guy I have to keep preaching to every 1069 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 16: every day and every play to kind of keep him going. 1070 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 16: And so I like players that have that edge about him. 1071 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 16: And I like young players that aren't afraid of the 1072 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,919 Speaker 16: veteran players that are across the field from him, because 1073 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 16: sometimes as a young player, you can give the veterans 1074 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 16: too much respect, you know. And I'm not saying you 1075 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 16: got to go out there and be a jerk, but 1076 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 16: you don't have to go out there and take any 1077 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 16: of their crap either. You know what I'm saying, Like, 1078 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,760 Speaker 16: we're both men. Just because you've been in the league 1079 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 16: eight years and I've been here one year doesn't make 1080 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 16: the manhood any different. And so we're gonna play the 1081 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 16: game that way. And I love that he approaches it 1082 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 16: that way to me, Like Dave, I'm getting excited now because. 1083 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,359 Speaker 3: I hear it. Ray, I'm rapping you up, man, I'm 1084 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 3: cranking it up. 1085 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 16: I have this saying that I always use its low hard, 1086 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 16: meaning nasty. That's how you have to play it on 1087 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 16: the offensive line. And if you can't do the low 1088 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 16: hard and main part, be an expert at the nasty part. 1089 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 16: And the nasty part entails all of that. It entails 1090 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 16: grabbing a face mask, twisting an ankle, punching a gut 1091 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 16: like whatever it is like that, like the nastiness is a. 1092 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 9: Is a bedding for it all. 1093 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 16: And so that's what I love about Bradford is that 1094 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 16: when his technique isn't the greatest, sometimes you know, his 1095 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,879 Speaker 16: position isn't the greatest. You know, maybe his conditioning isn't 1096 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,760 Speaker 16: the greatest, but his nastiness is always on point. 1097 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 9: And I love that. I love that about it. 1098 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 2: Ye, Ray, speaking of nastiness, what's the nastiest thing you've 1099 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 2: seen a teammate do to another player? Like, like when 1100 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 2: that nastiness from a from alignment comes out where you 1101 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 2: were like, wow, Oh well, I mean, like. 1102 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 3: I say, Ray hasn't seen it, he's done it. 1103 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,439 Speaker 16: I've seen some guys do some Like the biggest thing, Well, 1104 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 16: this video of somewhere of this my second year if 1105 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,280 Speaker 16: they were playing the Raiders and Rick Meyer was our quarterback, 1106 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,879 Speaker 16: and so we were down in LA and every time 1107 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,760 Speaker 16: we dropped back to past, you know, they were dropping 1108 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 16: so deep that Rick would just take off running. So 1109 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 16: we just that became a play for us within the game. 1110 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 16: It's just we hey, we're just gonna do this and 1111 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 16: let Rick run. Well, then Weston Moss tappled him one time, 1112 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 16: had him in the bottom of the pile, and I 1113 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 16: could see from where I was he was pulling his 1114 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 16: face mass up and trying to punch him in the 1115 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 16: face under the pile. So I just took off about 1116 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 16: fifteen yards away and I just freaking drilled this dude 1117 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 16: in the face with my farm as far as I 1118 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,879 Speaker 16: could boom knocked him off the pole and then next 1119 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 16: thing I know, I had Chasta Mclock and all three 1120 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 16: hundred and forty pounds of him like right in front 1121 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 16: of me trying to throw punches. So I was like, 1122 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 16: you know what, I'm on the raider sideline. I'm one 1123 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 16: dude is gonna get it. Like I know, I know, 1124 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 16: I'm but one dude is gonna get it. And so 1125 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 16: and so I just I just grabbed his face mask 1126 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 16: and just started getting in as many punches as I 1127 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 16: could possibly get in. And then I was getting clocked 1128 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 16: upside the head and knocked all over the place. And 1129 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 16: then and then I felt somebody like grabbing my shoulder, 1130 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 16: and I grabbed the dude and I pulled him like 1131 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 16: I'm trying to throw them off of me, and then 1132 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 16: she's going by. 1133 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 9: I realized it was a referee. 1134 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 16: So then I'm like, oh, I might as well get 1135 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 16: all my money's worth now, and so I just started 1136 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 16: swinging at everybody and uh and got kicked out of 1137 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 16: the game and uh. But the cool thing about that 1138 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 16: story was I get to the locker room and they 1139 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 16: don't want me to come back out to the coliseum 1140 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 16: because the fans and stuff will be you know, chirping 1141 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 16: at you. And so I'm in the locker room. It's 1142 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,720 Speaker 16: before halftime, and I found this cooler that our trainers 1143 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 16: had that had beer in it. 1144 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 9: And so by the. 1145 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,360 Speaker 16: Time the team came in at halftime, I was deep 1146 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 16: in somebody's locker, a few beers deep, and. 1147 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 17: I didn't know what was Everyone sat me on the back. Hey, man, 1148 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 17: appreciate it. 1149 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 16: Like we were killing him at that point. I think 1150 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 16: it kind of gave us a little spark and went 1151 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 16: down there and beat him. And the coach was coming 1152 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 16: up like all this other kind of stuff, and I'm 1153 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 16: just like, yeah, okay, but uh can I get another 1154 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 16: Cords light or whatever we're drinking? 1155 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, I was. 1156 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 16: I was. I was toasted in the locker. 1157 00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 9: Room after that gave Ray. 1158 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 2: Obviously, we all always love your insight. This might be 1159 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 2: my favorite answer you've ever given, though. This is an 1160 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,839 Speaker 2: amazing how. 1161 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 17: Hey, Dave. I'm not even lying, Dave, like I'm like 1162 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 17: sweating and everything. It's just it's like you just like 1163 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 17: people don't understand, like this is why the running game 1164 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 17: is so important for offensive linemen, because, like I say 1165 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 17: all the time, I said down here before when we 1166 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 17: all started playing this game. We all played both sides 1167 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,760 Speaker 17: of the ball, right, So you're used to making tackles 1168 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,360 Speaker 17: and blowing people up and knocking the crap out of people. 1169 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:31,720 Speaker 16: You don't get to do that when. 1170 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 9: You pass block. You know what I'm saying. 1171 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 16: It's cool, that's a big part of the game. You 1172 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 16: got to be able to do it and make you 1173 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 16: want of the better lineen in of the league and 1174 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,919 Speaker 16: all that other kind of stuff. But man, I didn't 1175 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 16: play back. I didn't play football to come out and 1176 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 16: just play basketball with a dude. I played football to 1177 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 16: knock the hell out of somebody. And so when you 1178 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 16: run into football, you get to do that. You get 1179 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 16: to impose your freaking will on another person. And like 1180 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 16: and when it comes to the playoffs, the teams that 1181 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 16: are better in the playoffs are the teams that dominate 1182 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 16: the line of scrimmage. And I think that's why the 1183 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 16: Seahawks need to get this running game going and on 1184 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 16: d they need to buckle up and start, stop and 1185 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 16: run because the teams are the healthy and can run 1186 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 16: the ball going into the playoffs tend to do the 1187 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 16: most damage. 1188 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,319 Speaker 2: Hopefully we see plenty of that on Sunday. He is 1189 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 2: Ray Roberts kind enough to join us for the huddle. 1190 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Ray, haven't been Thanks for having me. 1191 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 16: Now I got to go find somewhere to towel off 1192 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 16: the Thanks big Ray. 1193 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 2: See Ray. All right, we're gonna have another one of 1194 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 2: your favorite voys of Steve Rabel join us next. Don't 1195 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 2: go anywhere. 1196 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 1: This This is the Huddle presented by Hunt Services and 1197 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 1: Pacific Lamping Supply every Thursday from noon to two on 1198 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: Seattle Sports. 1199 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,880 Speaker 2: You are listening to the Huddle with Dave Wine and 1200 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 2: Michael Bumpus, Stacy Ross, and right now Steve Rabel Rapes. 1201 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 2: How's it going. 1202 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 9: Great, guys? How are you doing? Everybody have a nice Christmas? 1203 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 2: I had a wonderful you guys have a good Christmas? 1204 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, awesome. 1205 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 2: Everyone had a good Christmas here, Rapes. We're proud to 1206 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,720 Speaker 2: report maybe that was helped in part by the Seahawks 1207 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 2: winn their second consecutive game. It's kind of nice to 1208 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:02,959 Speaker 2: win too in a row. 1209 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 15: It is, indeed. 1210 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, my first question for you is just going to 1211 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:12,319 Speaker 2: be a vibes question, Rabes. It feels especially important to 1212 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 2: me that the last two games were one in the 1213 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 2: fourth quarter, Like I know, it's frustrating that they weren't 1214 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 2: dominant wins or they didn't get involved earlier. But for 1215 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 2: a team trying to you know, scratch and clots way 1216 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 2: back into the playoffs after losing four in a row, 1217 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 2: it felt important that they could kind of prove you 1218 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 2: couldn't you know, doubt them in these two And. 1219 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 15: It doesn't come by just luck. It doesn't come by 1220 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 15: to somebody making one crazy play here or there and 1221 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 15: suddenly you win the game. 1222 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 9: I mean, we've given. 1223 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 15: A great deal of credit obviously the JSN for the 1224 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 15: big catch Geno and Kolbe for the big touchdown at 1225 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,359 Speaker 15: the end of this last game. But there's a lot 1226 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,840 Speaker 15: that goes into winning a game like that, not the 1227 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,799 Speaker 15: least of which is simply believing you can do it. 1228 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,839 Speaker 15: And I think that's one of the most remarkable things 1229 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 15: about Pete Carol teams is that when he talks about 1230 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 15: in the law room after the game about you can't 1231 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 15: win it in the first quarter or the second quarter 1232 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 15: or the third, but you can win it in the fourth. 1233 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 15: That's a belief system, that's an understanding of how good 1234 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 15: you are and can be if you do things the 1235 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 15: right way, and so you know, what would the odds 1236 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,800 Speaker 15: be that you win another game in the fourth quarter 1237 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 15: in the last drive twenty to seventeen. I dare say 1238 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,880 Speaker 15: somebody will have that statistic. And if that happens on 1239 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 15: Sunday afternoon day, I know we're going to hear that 1240 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 15: this has never happened before in the history of the 1241 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,360 Speaker 15: National Football League. 1242 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think we're going to hear a lot 1243 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 3: of holy catfishes so that happens. 1244 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 15: But yes, I believe you're right. 1245 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Rabes. You know, I was happy to hear Pete talk. 1246 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,800 Speaker 3: I wasn't happy about calling the run defense rop a dope, 1247 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 3: but you know, some of those things that we saw. 1248 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, they've given up a lot 1249 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,880 Speaker 3: of rushing yards over the last couple of weeks, but 1250 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 3: we have not been giving up the explo And I 1251 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 3: thought that was kind of a quiet thing that kind 1252 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 3: of happened that you look back later, because after that 1253 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 3: San Francisco game, that was ridiculous. I mean, you know, 1254 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 3: they had their the number ten longest play was twenty 1255 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 3: yards and everything was above that, and you look at 1256 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,360 Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks, and you know, I was 1257 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 3: kind of grumbling a little bit about the run defense, 1258 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,360 Speaker 3: but it seems like it's worked. I mean, it's obviously 1259 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 3: kept both teams at seventeen points and you know, you 1260 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 3: got you got wins there and then you know, just 1261 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 3: totally limited the explosive plays. Pretty pretty interesting, but you know, 1262 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 3: effective game plan as far as Pete goes. 1263 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 15: Yeah, and as he was saying this week, and you know, 1264 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,919 Speaker 15: just in the second half against Tennessee, the way they 1265 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 15: were able to kind of shut down the run, We're 1266 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 15: looking at another kind of team in Pittsburgh, like we've 1267 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 15: seen several times this season, including this last weekend against Tennessee, 1268 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 15: and that is a team that can run the ball 1269 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 15: pretty well well, doesn't score a lot of points, and 1270 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,800 Speaker 15: they have an all season long, mostly because their quarterback 1271 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 15: situation has been so up in the air, but that 1272 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 15: in the last couple of weeks and especially last week 1273 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 15: against the Bengals, huge explosive plays. Part of that comes 1274 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,360 Speaker 15: from the new quarterback back, basically the old quarterback, Mason Rudolph, 1275 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 15: who's been there for a while and just sort of 1276 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 15: languishing on the bench, but he came up with some 1277 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 15: huge plays to pickens. Deontay Johnson is a big play 1278 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 15: guy at wide receiver, and of course Nagie Harris is 1279 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,400 Speaker 15: kind of a battering ramp. So this is exactly the 1280 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,240 Speaker 15: kind of team that the Seahawks need to guard against. 1281 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 15: You just cannot give up those explosives. They've done a 1282 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 15: good job in adjusting and doing whatever it takes to 1283 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,800 Speaker 15: take those away. And now you know, you just with 1284 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,319 Speaker 15: their offense if they're not scoring on big plays, they've 1285 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 15: had trouble scoring points. So it kind of sets up 1286 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 15: for the Seahawks defense doing what it has done the 1287 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 15: last couple of weeks and then giving your offense a 1288 00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 15: chance to get out there. And as DK said yesterday, 1289 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,359 Speaker 15: well it's great to win it in the fourth quarter, 1290 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,879 Speaker 15: but I sure would like to win in the first, 1291 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,359 Speaker 15: second or third quarter. Score off points at the fourth 1292 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 15: quarter doesn't become that place where you have to make plays. 1293 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 15: We'll see if that happens on Sunday. 1294 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 4: Hey Raves, there's a situation that I'm gonna play pay 1295 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 4: close attention to. I think most people do. Either way 1296 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,880 Speaker 4: it goes. It's the red zone. You look at this 1297 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers defense and they're around twenty something when you 1298 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 4: look at all the major categories, when you're judging a 1299 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 4: defense except for red zone defense. Man their fifth when 1300 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 4: it comes to red zone defense and the Hawks are 1301 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,399 Speaker 4: twenty eighth when it comes to red zone offense. How 1302 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 4: do the Hawks get better at this? Is it just 1303 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,480 Speaker 4: winning your matchup? Does it play calling? What are you seeing? 1304 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 15: Well, it's always a combination of that. But when you 1305 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,400 Speaker 15: take a look at what Pittsburgh has, especially with TJ. Watt, 1306 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,440 Speaker 15: Cam Hayward is still really good, but they've got so 1307 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 15: many injuries do the Steelers on defense? I mean they've 1308 00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 15: lost a couple of safeties already. They've got rookies playing 1309 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,279 Speaker 15: all over the defense, Joey Porter being won. But then again, 1310 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 15: you've got guys like veterans Patrick Peterson. I mean, he's 1311 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,879 Speaker 15: one of the best cornerbacks ever. He's seen a lot 1312 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 15: of time at safety in the last couple of weeks 1313 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 15: just because of all those injuries. But this is a 1314 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,799 Speaker 15: pretty good defense, and especially when you don't have as 1315 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 15: much ground to cover behind you, you know, it makes 1316 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 15: it easier in the red zone in a lot of ways. 1317 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 15: And that means the Seahawks on offense really have to 1318 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 15: be stout upfront, especially because if you can score on 1319 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,240 Speaker 15: the ground, which has been a bit of an issue 1320 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,360 Speaker 15: for this team at times. Then you can control the 1321 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 15: play action pass game and maybe find a way to 1322 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 15: score a little more easily through the air. 1323 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 16: But this defense is not going to. 1324 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 15: Give you anything upfront, especially this Steelers defense. So you know, 1325 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,720 Speaker 15: I don't know that it's going to be any easier 1326 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 15: than it's been all season long. They're just going to 1327 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 15: have to find ways to do it. But I kind 1328 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,799 Speaker 15: of trust in what Gino and the offense been able 1329 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,760 Speaker 15: to do last week and before that, drew in getting 1330 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 15: down there in that red zone and making something happen. 1331 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 2: How does Mason Rudolph presumably starting this game, change the 1332 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 2: way that you might see it. 1333 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,319 Speaker 15: It's really interesting about him. I mean, you know, I 1334 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 15: remember back in I'm old enough to remember twenty nineteen, 1335 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 15: whereas many of you kids can't. But that's that's when 1336 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,240 Speaker 15: Mason Rudolph actually saw a fair amount of action against 1337 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 15: the Seahawks back there in Pittsburgh when Roethlisberger got hurt 1338 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 15: and they ended up the Steelers didn't end up losing 1339 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,399 Speaker 15: that game by a pair of twenty six. He's the guy. 1340 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,839 Speaker 15: He's got a big arm, he's a big, strong guy. 1341 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 15: He can kind of shake off a possible blitz. One 1342 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,799 Speaker 15: of the reasons why he was drafted by Pittsburgh to 1343 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 15: be that air apparent to Roethlisberger. It's just never sort 1344 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 15: of panned out for him. But he can do a 1345 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,279 Speaker 15: lot of things, and least of which is not the 1346 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,359 Speaker 15: least of which is throw the ball deep, Just throw 1347 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 15: it up and let your guys run under it. And 1348 00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 15: he's got some targets now that can do that. So 1349 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,759 Speaker 15: I think he's he's the guy for the moment, at 1350 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 15: least Kenny Pickett they really like. It's just that he's 1351 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,759 Speaker 15: had some ups and downs. He's only a second year guy. 1352 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 15: I think he played better last year as a rookie 1353 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,360 Speaker 15: than he was playing this year. But Mason Rudolph is 1354 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 15: the guy right now. He's brought him a little spark, 1355 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 15: and let's hope we can, you know, kind of damp 1356 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:19,960 Speaker 15: and throw a bucket of water on that spark. 1357 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 2: All right. Raves is going to be on the call 1358 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 2: for this game on Sunday along with Dave Wyman. Seahawks 1359 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,000 Speaker 2: taking on the Steelers Week seventeen. Thanks so much, Rabes, Thanks. 1360 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 15: Raves, Thanks guys, good talking to you. 1361 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,440 Speaker 2: See you buddy, all right, still a lot to come 1362 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 2: your way. We're going to have John Boyle join us 1363 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 2: for some final thoughts as we wrap up our preview 1364 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 2: of this game coming up at forty four. After quickly 1365 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 2: final thirty seconds of this bump, I know you've been 1366 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 2: watching a lot of tape on this team. What are 1367 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 2: you most curious to learn from brook Pryor when we 1368 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,480 Speaker 2: have her on in just a couple of minutes, Maybe just. 1369 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:54,920 Speaker 4: What she thinks the strength of this team is. I 1370 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:59,480 Speaker 4: know how they want to attack the Seahawks defense. I think, yeah, 1371 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 4: But how much confidence is in Mason Rudolph because eventually 1372 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 4: he's going to have to make some throws. I think 1373 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 4: last week he kind of got lucky. 1374 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 5: Honestly, I'm looking at the film. 1375 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 4: There's a slant that went any something yards, mistackles horrible angles, 1376 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 4: there's a bench route where the corner's eyes were in 1377 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 4: the backfield, and I go without those two plays, he 1378 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 4: has an average looking day. So just how much do 1379 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 4: they really trust in this Mason Rudolph. 1380 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 5: I'm hoping that it's his fool's goal. What happened last week. 1381 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:29,920 Speaker 2: I'm so curious to see what we're going to hear 1382 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,960 Speaker 2: from Brook, and that red zone stat is going to 1383 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:36,000 Speaker 2: be stuck with me. That discrepancy is pretty concerning. 1384 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they faced that last week too. Zone tits 1385 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 3: were number two and it was kind of hard to 1386 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 3: explain because they were pretty crappy at everything else, Yeah, 1387 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 3: including especially taking the ball away. I think they had 1388 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 3: their number one interceptor had one interception. Nobody had double digits. 1389 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's kind of it's kind of weird that 1390 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 3: that stat. But I don't know if some teams are 1391 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,760 Speaker 3: better playing on a compacted field, you know, when you 1392 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 3: get inside the red zone. The other thing is, I 1393 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 3: know the Titans gave up a ton of explosive plays, 1394 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 3: so some teams weren't scoring. 1395 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 2: From the red stone, right, scoring from the All right, 1396 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,919 Speaker 2: well we're going to learn a little bit more about 1397 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 2: the Steelers. Brook Pryor, who covers the Steelers, is joining 1398 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 2: us next. Don't go anywhere. 1399 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 1: This This is the Huddle presented by Hunk Services and 1400 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 1: Pacific Lamp and Supply every Thursday from noon to two 1401 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,360 Speaker 1: on Seattle Sports. 1402 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 2: This is the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Vampas, and 1403 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,919 Speaker 2: Stacy Ross. We are getting an opponent preview with Brooke 1404 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 2: Pryor of ESPN, she covers the Steelers brooke. My first 1405 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 2: question is just clarification. I saw that you had been 1406 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 2: tweeting some quotes from Kenny Pickett, who spoke with reporters 1407 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,640 Speaker 2: yesterday just to confirm it's Mason Rudolph starting Sunday, Right. 1408 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 8: Well, that's the expectation, but the door is open for 1409 00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 8: Kenny Picket. And that's why it's been a little bit 1410 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 8: of an interesting week in Pittsburgh because Mason Rudolph has 1411 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 8: gotten all the team reps with the ones. He's gone 1412 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 8: through practice much in the same way he did last week. 1413 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 8: But Kenny Pickett has been listed as a limited participant 1414 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 8: in practice. And based on what I know about Pickett 1415 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,439 Speaker 8: and the way that he conducts himself in the way 1416 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 8: that he tries to play through things, I mean, he's 1417 01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 8: been injured, not significantly to like a season ending type 1418 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 8: of injury or anything earlier this year with I think 1419 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 8: he had a bone bruise on his knee, he had 1420 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:33,880 Speaker 8: a ribs injury, two things that put his availability in doubt, 1421 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,439 Speaker 8: and he rebounded and pushed to play and did play 1422 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 8: the following weeks after those injuries. So he does not 1423 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 8: like being on the sideline, But it seems like this 1424 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 8: is not a decision that he gets to make. This 1425 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 8: will be up to the trainers and the coaching staff 1426 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 8: whether they feel comfortable putting him out there. At this point, 1427 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,880 Speaker 8: I would expect it to be Mason Rudolph, but I 1428 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 8: don't think that we will have any kind of significant 1429 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 8: clarity tomorrow afternoon, or maybe even pregame. 1430 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,360 Speaker 4: I'm looking at the quarterback situation in Pittsburgh and I 1431 01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 4: see some similarities over here in Seattle. Well, well, my 1432 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,920 Speaker 4: question is are there some similarities honestly because you have 1433 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,440 Speaker 4: your your geno crowd who are allowed them proud and 1434 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 4: think Gino should be the guy. But then you also 1435 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 4: have fans that fell in love with Drew Locke with 1436 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 4: his two starts. Did Mason Rudolph do enough this year 1437 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 4: or with that start last week to have people want 1438 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 4: to flip and see him play instead of kidding? 1439 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, It's a really interesting situation because I think that 1440 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 8: there's a lot of parallels not only in the quarterback 1441 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 8: situation in Seattle right now, but especially in Mason Rudolph's 1442 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 8: career or what he hopes his career will turn into. 1443 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 8: In Gino Smith's career. You know, Mason's a guy that 1444 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 8: he's only been with the Steelers, but I mean, he 1445 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,280 Speaker 8: got thrown into the starting job in nineteen obviously a 1446 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 8: very tumultuous situation starting kind of stretch here between being 1447 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 8: can cuss and knocked out against Baltimore to having his 1448 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 8: own helmet swung on him by Miles Garrett and Cleveland 1449 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 8: get finched. I mean, it was just chaotic, and after 1450 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,720 Speaker 8: that he really didn't get a shot to be a 1451 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 8: starter again until this year now when Mitch Trubisky got benched. 1452 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 8: And I think that the feeling in Pittsburgh is that 1453 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 8: it is somewhat evenly split between the people that want 1454 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,520 Speaker 8: to see Mason, at least fan base wise, people that 1455 01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 8: want to see Mason go back out there, and the 1456 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,480 Speaker 8: people that want to see Kenny get back out on 1457 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 8: the field. And it's kind of a stunning turn of 1458 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 8: events when you know, you consider that Mason Rudolph was 1459 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 8: kind of the scapegoat for the Steelers struggles in nineteen 1460 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 8: and he was kind of just the guy that was 1461 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,360 Speaker 8: the butt of a lot of Steelers fans jokes when they, 1462 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,439 Speaker 8: you know, talk about the quarterback situation. But the way 1463 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 8: that he played against the Bengals. You know, the Steelers 1464 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 8: offense with both Picket and Rudolph really lit up the 1465 01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,400 Speaker 8: Bengals defense. But it was the way that Rudolph did 1466 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 8: it touch the field, he showed his arm, he got 1467 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,040 Speaker 8: just the vertical game more involved than opened up the 1468 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 8: run game, and it just felt like things were easier 1469 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 8: in a way that they haven't been for the Steelers 1470 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,480 Speaker 8: offense for most of the season. And so I think 1471 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 8: that maybe the prevailing narrative is that Mason should start. 1472 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,480 Speaker 8: People want to see him because it's been so long 1473 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 8: since they've seen consistently good offense. 1474 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 3: It broke. You could say this for the Seahawks too. 1475 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,240 Speaker 3: I mean, we start out game one, play the Rams, 1476 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,360 Speaker 3: get killed, then go on the road to Detroit and 1477 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,960 Speaker 3: win in overtime, which was a really tough, you know, 1478 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 3: place to play, and then you know, just got worked 1479 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,120 Speaker 3: by the Ravens. You look at Pittsburgh, I mean, they 1480 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,240 Speaker 3: beat the Ravens and then they lose to New England. 1481 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 3: It just seems like it's it's kind of very I'd 1482 01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,560 Speaker 3: say in general, maybe in the NFL it's kind of 1483 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,600 Speaker 3: like that. But what what is what happens in those 1484 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 3: games where you know, they go to they go to 1485 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 3: Houston and they lose thirty to six, and then you know, 1486 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 3: you go to you go to the the Rams, which 1487 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 3: have been a really tough team for us, and beat 1488 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,120 Speaker 3: them by a touchdown. What's the difference? And you know what, 1489 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,959 Speaker 3: what do you sort of where do you point for 1490 01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,400 Speaker 3: those kinds of kind of wild swinging wins and losses. 1491 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's I've been covering the Steelers now, 1492 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 8: this is my fifth season, and it feels like that 1493 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,200 Speaker 8: every season ends up coming down to this because there's 1494 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 8: just so many swings and inconsistencies throughout the season. But 1495 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,120 Speaker 8: to me, the thing that has made this season different 1496 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 8: is that the offense hasn't established an identity. They want 1497 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,480 Speaker 8: to be a run first team, and the games that 1498 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 8: they win, they are a run first team. But the 1499 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,200 Speaker 8: games that they're losing and just getting the doors blown 1500 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,000 Speaker 8: off are games where they're not running the ball effectively, 1501 01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 8: where they're not committing to the run game. And the 1502 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:53,920 Speaker 8: biggest different a differentiating factor to me is just the 1503 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,920 Speaker 8: sloppiness and the lack of execution, and that's come up 1504 01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 8: with a bunch of penalties with you know, errors in formations, 1505 01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,680 Speaker 8: these presnat penalties, leaving guys uncovered at the line. It 1506 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,400 Speaker 8: just they're making these boneheaded mistakes. I think Mike Talmlan 1507 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,840 Speaker 8: called it. They're making September mistakes in December. And that's 1508 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,640 Speaker 8: the thing that really was going wrong for them in 1509 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 8: the last three games before this second Bengals game that 1510 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,400 Speaker 8: they were able to come out and win it and 1511 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 8: really dominate on but I think that they just the 1512 01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 8: offense has not been working all year, and then they 1513 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,840 Speaker 8: had the coordinator change, and it just showed that there 1514 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:36,640 Speaker 8: was fundamental mistakes being made, fundamental things that either weren't 1515 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 8: being coached on offense or the message just wasn't getting through. 1516 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 8: And so because of that, it's led to these just 1517 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 8: wild swings and these white knuckle wins and these blowout losses. 1518 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,680 Speaker 8: And it's hard to tell which direction this team's going 1519 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:54,520 Speaker 8: to go. After a pretty convincing win against the Bengals, hey. 1520 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,640 Speaker 2: Last one and just a quick one broke. I'm just 1521 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 2: glancing at the injury report. Najie Harris didn't practice with 1522 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 2: the knee injury. Minka Fitzpatrick didn't practice with the knee injury. 1523 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 2: What's the latest from Tomlin on those guys. 1524 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,480 Speaker 8: You know, I don't think that Naji's injury is going 1525 01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,080 Speaker 8: to be something that keeps him out. He's been dealing 1526 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:13,840 Speaker 8: with it for a couple of weeks now. It seems 1527 01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,400 Speaker 8: to be just a lingering issue. 1528 01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 4: Mink. 1529 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:19,320 Speaker 8: If it's Patrick, though, I would be surprised if he played. 1530 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,320 Speaker 8: I talked to him briefly today. He said the knees 1531 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:25,080 Speaker 8: getting better, but didn't have any real concrete updates on that. 1532 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,440 Speaker 8: So I think that I would expect him to not 1533 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,040 Speaker 8: be on the field Sunday, but there's nothing official on 1534 01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:31,479 Speaker 8: that yet. 1535 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,600 Speaker 2: She is ESPN's Brooke Prior kind enough to join us 1536 01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,440 Speaker 2: for an opponent preview this Sunday's game between the Seahawks 1537 01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,080 Speaker 2: and Steelers. I am a shock. It was like every 1538 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 2: question you answered, I felt like saying, you know, that's 1539 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,920 Speaker 2: funny you say that, Brooke, all of us similarities here 1540 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 2: in Seattle. It's going to be a fascinating game on Sunday. 1541 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us. 1542 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:49,400 Speaker 8: Absolutely, thanks for having me. 1543 01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 2: Thanks before we get to John Boyle coming on, That's 1544 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,200 Speaker 2: really how it felt like. Even with the identity one, 1545 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 2: my follow up was almost and it was the same stuff. 1546 01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 2: It's the same issues with the run game. 1547 01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 3: I was going to interrupt her and say this sounds 1548 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,480 Speaker 3: oddly familiar, all this stuff. 1549 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,320 Speaker 2: Everything you're saying, Oh, and there's like a safety who's 1550 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:09,280 Speaker 2: struggling to get healthy and everything happening all right. John Boyle, 1551 01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,760 Speaker 2: Seahawks dot Com reporter, is going to join us next 1552 01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,080 Speaker 2: and we'll recap our final thoughts heading into this one. 1553 01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:14,800 Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere. 1554 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:23,560 Speaker 1: This is the Huddle presented by On Services and Pacific 1555 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:28,120 Speaker 1: Lamping Supply every Thursday from noon to two on Seattle Sports. 1556 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,800 Speaker 2: You are listening to the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus, 1557 01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,320 Speaker 2: and Stacy Ross joining us right now as we wrap 1558 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,040 Speaker 2: up our thoughts and take a final look at a 1559 01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,840 Speaker 2: preview of Seahawks Steelers. John Boyle of Seahawks dot Com. John, 1560 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:41,439 Speaker 2: how's it going. 1561 01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 3: It's going great. 1562 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:43,040 Speaker 9: Stacy? 1563 01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:43,840 Speaker 3: How you doing good? 1564 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 2: You're very throwback today out Yeah. Oh, I wish we 1565 01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,520 Speaker 2: had one more game in these throwback ninety alas. We 1566 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 2: do not rule. I know we may have a throwback 1567 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 2: style though. You see what I did, Some good old 1568 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,600 Speaker 2: fashioned running of the football going on in this game. 1569 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,960 Speaker 2: Is that kind of the attack you're expecting from Pittsburgh. 1570 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, I would think both because that's, you know, 1571 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 10: something they've leaned on in the past. And also, you 1572 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:09,240 Speaker 10: know they're going to look at what the Seaks have 1573 01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,040 Speaker 10: done well and haven't done well lately in the stocks. 1574 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 10: You know, last couple of games especially, they've taken care 1575 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:14,800 Speaker 10: of the passing game really well, but they have been 1576 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,879 Speaker 10: susceptible some ourney yards. So yeah, I'm sure the Steelers 1577 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,840 Speaker 10: with a backup quarterback are going to look to test that. 1578 01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:25,439 Speaker 4: I'm looking at Mason Rudolph and I'm watching a film 1579 01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,960 Speaker 4: and I'm just not convinced. But I know how this 1580 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:29,599 Speaker 4: game is. 1581 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:29,880 Speaker 3: Man. 1582 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,479 Speaker 4: Sometimes you just you're in the zone and things happen. 1583 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 4: What do you think the best approach is for Mason Rudolf. 1584 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,800 Speaker 4: Would you keep the show that we've seen the last 1585 01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,600 Speaker 4: couple of weeks, keep things in front, or would you 1586 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,920 Speaker 4: challenge him and make him make themself throws? 1587 01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, we'll see. I don't know enough about 1588 01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,880 Speaker 10: how they were using Mason Rudolf last game to you know, 1589 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,360 Speaker 10: give you a game plane, but I think that in general, 1590 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,960 Speaker 10: they really like what they've seen out of their pass defense. 1591 01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:53,800 Speaker 10: I mean, they didn't give up a play longer in 1592 01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,639 Speaker 10: seventeen yards in the passing game last week. So if 1593 01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,120 Speaker 10: you can do that, keep it on in front of 1594 01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 10: you and say to Mason Rudolf, like, can you go 1595 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,280 Speaker 10: twelve plays without making a mistake and dink all the 1596 01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,160 Speaker 10: way down the field? You know they might take their 1597 01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:05,760 Speaker 10: chances there. 1598 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:07,800 Speaker 3: Hey. I don't know if this happened here, if you 1599 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,240 Speaker 3: were looking on like social media or anything, but I 1600 01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,680 Speaker 3: was walking through the stadium at halftime to get a 1601 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:16,080 Speaker 3: hot dog or whatever, and as one does, yes, and 1602 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,559 Speaker 3: people were saying every time to go to Drew Lock 1603 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 3: it's time. 1604 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:19,880 Speaker 11: Yeah I heard that. 1605 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:21,439 Speaker 10: I heard that a little bit on social media. 1606 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:21,920 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1607 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 3: So, and you look at Gino, I mean, really wasn't 1608 01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 3: you know he didn't He threw for seventy yards, sixty 1609 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 3: three percent completion, no touchdowns, no interceptions, but the second 1610 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:34,960 Speaker 3: half seventy two touchdowns. I mean, do you get a 1611 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:36,720 Speaker 3: lot of that or like people? I mean, it's not 1612 01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:37,800 Speaker 3: too surprising now. 1613 01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:41,080 Speaker 10: I mean, look, we as long as there's been football, 1614 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,080 Speaker 10: I feel like the backup quarterback is always going to 1615 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,639 Speaker 10: be popular because anytime something is going a little bit wrong. 1616 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:48,640 Speaker 10: I mean, look, there's maybe one or two throws I 1617 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:49,880 Speaker 10: can think of it. That first half that could have 1618 01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:51,240 Speaker 10: been a little better. But for the most part, I 1619 01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,280 Speaker 10: didn't watch that half and think the offense isn't functioning 1620 01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:54,240 Speaker 10: because of the quarterback. 1621 01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:54,720 Speaker 3: It was. 1622 01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 10: You know, there were some protection is usally, they weren't 1623 01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:57,360 Speaker 10: running the ball very well. 1624 01:09:58,120 --> 01:09:58,720 Speaker 3: You know it. 1625 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:01,200 Speaker 10: Look, Gino spent has been the starter here for a reason. 1626 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,000 Speaker 10: He's a really solid quarterback and they really trust him. 1627 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,400 Speaker 10: And you know, once he got going to the second half, 1628 01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,640 Speaker 10: he was really good. You just mentioned those numbers, and 1629 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,840 Speaker 10: that includes a game winning drive when he made some 1630 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,479 Speaker 10: great throws on that drive. So yeah, I mean they 1631 01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,400 Speaker 10: look they'd love to be great for four quarters and 1632 01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 10: that's the goal and they're hoping to get there. But 1633 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,840 Speaker 10: I still think there's a ton of trust in Geno 1634 01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:20,439 Speaker 10: in this building. 1635 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,640 Speaker 2: What have you seen in those final two minutes or 1636 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 2: in those quick drives where you know it's a comeback 1637 01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,000 Speaker 2: because those drives are just especially efficient for this team 1638 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:28,320 Speaker 2: right now. 1639 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,720 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's more than anything, it's just kind 1640 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,280 Speaker 10: of the collective group, the calmness of it, like you 1641 01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 10: don't see you watch some teams go through two minut 1642 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,759 Speaker 10: drive and it's a little like scattered looking and guys 1643 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,479 Speaker 10: maybe get a little panicky, and I think that's they 1644 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,160 Speaker 10: We heard Geo Smith talk about this after the game, 1645 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,919 Speaker 10: how much they practice it here and what a big emphasis. 1646 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,040 Speaker 10: I mean, not that every team doesn't practice two minutes, 1647 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,080 Speaker 10: but Gino Smith has been a lot of places and 1648 01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 10: he was saying, like, it's different here, the amount of 1649 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,400 Speaker 10: emphasis they put on it. So I think, you know, 1650 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,200 Speaker 10: and obviously just having a lot of good weapons really 1651 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,519 Speaker 10: helps in those moones because it's one thing to throw 1652 01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,000 Speaker 10: the ball in your balance and all that, but when 1653 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,000 Speaker 10: teams know you're throwing it, it really helps. When you 1654 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,880 Speaker 10: have three legit receivers and some really capable tight. 1655 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:05,719 Speaker 11: Ends and all that as well. 1656 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,599 Speaker 4: What do you make of oline play the last few weeks. 1657 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,880 Speaker 4: I got pretty much the whole band together. Yeah, which 1658 01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:12,880 Speaker 4: is in here, said he's played every snap last game. 1659 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:13,599 Speaker 5: What are you see in there? 1660 01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,639 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I think getting a back a few 1661 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 10: weeks ago has really made a big difference. I still 1662 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,080 Speaker 10: think they're looking for more consistency in the running game 1663 01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,479 Speaker 10: in particular. You know, it hasn't just hit quite like 1664 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:26,000 Speaker 10: they want, but I do think that group they like 1665 01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,000 Speaker 10: the growth they're seeing out of them. And you know, 1666 01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,040 Speaker 10: I think Anthony Bradford's a guy that you know, he's 1667 01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,120 Speaker 10: a rookie. He's going to have his mistakes, but I 1668 01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,000 Speaker 10: think there's a lot of upside there that they really 1669 01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:34,559 Speaker 10: like as well. 1670 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,200 Speaker 3: We just had Devin Bush in here, really excited to 1671 01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:38,920 Speaker 3: see this kid play. I mean, a chance to see 1672 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,120 Speaker 3: him last week. But you know, he's interesting story. I mean, 1673 01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,000 Speaker 3: he's playing his former team now, and there's always a 1674 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,680 Speaker 3: little extra juice, whether whether you want to admit it 1675 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 3: or not. As a player, yeah, that was the case 1676 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,000 Speaker 3: for me. But he's really kind of an interesting story, 1677 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,000 Speaker 3: kind of chance to get a fresh start and kind 1678 01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,120 Speaker 3: of ironic that he's, you know, going to get to 1679 01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:58,920 Speaker 3: start this game against his old team. 1680 01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,040 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, it's a it's funny how the timing 1681 01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:02,720 Speaker 10: works out of you know, he's he's a guy all 1682 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,120 Speaker 10: year kind of behind some really good linebackers on the 1683 01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:05,559 Speaker 10: depth chart. 1684 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:06,799 Speaker 3: Now, Jordan Brooks is hurt. 1685 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,280 Speaker 10: And we don't know for sure, but it sounds like 1686 01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,120 Speaker 10: he might have a hard time getting back, and if not, 1687 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,200 Speaker 10: as he said, he starts against this former team and 1688 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,240 Speaker 10: you know, he's a guy they brought in. You know, 1689 01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,200 Speaker 10: I think they brought him in expecting him to have 1690 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,160 Speaker 10: a pretty big role because they didn't necessarily think Jordan 1691 01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,400 Speaker 10: Brooks would be back week one because of that injury. 1692 01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,559 Speaker 10: So he's a guy that maybe they thought would play 1693 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 10: more when they signed him. But Jordan Brooks, think this crazy, 1694 01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,639 Speaker 10: you know, less than eight month recovery and was back. 1695 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,799 Speaker 10: So this guy with you know, a ton of physical ability. 1696 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,439 Speaker 10: As you said, he's a first round pick, and he 1697 01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,000 Speaker 10: got off to a great to start in his career 1698 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,040 Speaker 10: and then had I think an acl some sort of 1699 01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,720 Speaker 10: serious injury in his second year and just didn't quite 1700 01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,240 Speaker 10: get back to for him there. So yeah, this is 1701 01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,240 Speaker 10: not you know, plugging in a backup. You don't think 1702 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:43,680 Speaker 10: he can get the job done. This is a very 1703 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,160 Speaker 10: capable guy, a. 1704 01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:48,400 Speaker 2: Guy who could be coming back. Jamal Adams has faced 1705 01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,360 Speaker 2: a lot of criticism, and some of it completely fair. 1706 01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:55,080 Speaker 2: Julian Love, meanwhile, has played really well for two weeks. 1707 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,000 Speaker 2: Is there an area where, let's say Jamal is healthy 1708 01:12:58,040 --> 01:12:59,640 Speaker 2: and maybe they're splitting reps, Pete doesn't know what he 1709 01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,599 Speaker 2: wants to do. Is there just an area a phase 1710 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,880 Speaker 2: of the game where you think I would still love 1711 01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,040 Speaker 2: to see Jamal in there? 1712 01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,519 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, look, I think you know, the knee 1713 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,639 Speaker 10: has obviously held him back a little bit this year, 1714 01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,559 Speaker 10: and he hasn't been himself, But I do think he 1715 01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,120 Speaker 10: can still be still a really physical guy, good tackler. 1716 01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,680 Speaker 10: I could see a scenario where if you don't want 1717 01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:18,360 Speaker 10: to take Julian Love off the field as well as 1718 01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,840 Speaker 10: he's playing that Jamal can sort of be that big 1719 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,120 Speaker 10: nickel that he can play in the box. He's good 1720 01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:26,200 Speaker 10: against a run, he can still blit. So I definitely 1721 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:27,880 Speaker 10: think he can still help this team quite a bit 1722 01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,880 Speaker 10: in certain areas. But if A you're worried about his 1723 01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,760 Speaker 10: health with that knee, and b you just don't want 1724 01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,720 Speaker 10: Julian Love to lee the field playing the way he is, 1725 01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:36,760 Speaker 10: that could be a role that would make sense for him, 1726 01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:38,679 Speaker 10: almost like we didn't really get to see it because 1727 01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,960 Speaker 10: of Jordan Brooks's injury, but they wanted Bush to be 1728 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,040 Speaker 10: sort of that They called it a big nickel in 1729 01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:44,840 Speaker 10: the last game, where if you're facing a more run 1730 01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,679 Speaker 10: heavy team, instead of having a third safety on, it's 1731 01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:48,600 Speaker 10: more of a linebacker. 1732 01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:49,160 Speaker 5: Well, in this. 1733 01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,200 Speaker 10: Case, you know, Jamal's list is a safety, but he 1734 01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:52,440 Speaker 10: can play more like a linebacker. 1735 01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, you covered this guy for a while, so I 1736 01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:56,000 Speaker 4: got to ask you about him. What do you think 1737 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,479 Speaker 4: about Russell Wilson in the situation over in Denver. 1738 01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,040 Speaker 10: I mean, look, I'll use the geno line. 1739 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,479 Speaker 11: I'm here to talk about the Steelers now. 1740 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:04,800 Speaker 9: I don't know. 1741 01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,280 Speaker 10: I mean, it's obviously always unfortunate these situations when things 1742 01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,880 Speaker 10: don't go the way the team or the player wanted. 1743 01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,240 Speaker 10: But you know, I'm not there, so I don't have 1744 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,439 Speaker 10: a great feel for what all is going on behind 1745 01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:15,920 Speaker 10: the scenes. 1746 01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:18,080 Speaker 5: You gave me the boring answer. 1747 01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:19,560 Speaker 3: I mean, what do you want? I can't keep you 1748 01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,080 Speaker 3: I know, yeah, I know you can't tell us what 1749 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:22,759 Speaker 3: you really don't. 1750 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,639 Speaker 9: No, no, we're not going there. Yeah. 1751 01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,759 Speaker 3: We were talking earlier about sort of the wild Swings 1752 01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:32,400 Speaker 3: with the Brook the reporter, and I'm sorry prior, you know, 1753 01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:35,679 Speaker 3: and you look at like they lose to New England 1754 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,800 Speaker 3: and then they go and beat the Rams and kind 1755 01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,040 Speaker 3: of I feel like that's kind of us. And she 1756 01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:44,280 Speaker 3: was explaining, you know, what are the successes and what 1757 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,120 Speaker 3: are the failures, and it was like a failure to 1758 01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:50,240 Speaker 3: really establish an identity of what this team is. But 1759 01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,320 Speaker 3: I think the one thing they do really well, like 1760 01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,559 Speaker 3: where they hang their hat. You know, like a third 1761 01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,360 Speaker 3: of their games they've had comeback drives, you know, for 1762 01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:00,280 Speaker 3: Gino to be able to do that, and I think 1763 01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,320 Speaker 3: it's kind of interesting because whenever someone judges a quarterback, 1764 01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,960 Speaker 3: they're like, uh, can he take you on a game 1765 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,639 Speaker 3: winning drive? That's usually the question. The other one is, 1766 01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:10,680 Speaker 3: you know, can he do that in the playoffs? But 1767 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,599 Speaker 3: I mean that's something that they kind of can hang 1768 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,320 Speaker 3: their hat on, right, Yeah, for sure. 1769 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,320 Speaker 10: I mean that's as long as Pete Carroll's been here. 1770 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,040 Speaker 10: He makes a big deal out of finishing, and they've 1771 01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,120 Speaker 10: done that really well this year. I mean what four yeah, 1772 01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,200 Speaker 10: you said, four gaming as for Gino Smith plus one 1773 01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:25,000 Speaker 10: for Drew Locke. 1774 01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:25,479 Speaker 11: I remember. 1775 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,920 Speaker 10: It's funny because early last season, when Gino was a 1776 01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:29,800 Speaker 10: starter and he's playing really well, that was sort of 1777 01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:31,599 Speaker 10: the thing people are thrown out there. I was like, oh, 1778 01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:33,120 Speaker 10: but can he come through in the clutch? And it 1779 01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:34,760 Speaker 10: was like, I think it was at the Rams. He 1780 01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,600 Speaker 10: did it midway through the season was sort of the 1781 01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:40,000 Speaker 10: first time. And now it's he's doing it almost every week, 1782 01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,680 Speaker 10: it feels like, and that's a big deal. And I mean, 1783 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,400 Speaker 10: so many games in the NFL I mean team the 1784 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,800 Speaker 10: Seahawks beat last week, the Titans. They now have I 1785 01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:50,080 Speaker 10: think with that loss eight losses seven or eight losses 1786 01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,600 Speaker 10: by singles score margins. So that's the way this league is. 1787 01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,400 Speaker 10: And sometimes difference between being five and ten like the 1788 01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 10: Titans are right now, and an eight win team like 1789 01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,639 Speaker 10: the Seahawks is finishing those games. 1790 01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 2: Final minute thirty. You guys know how we do this. 1791 01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,120 Speaker 2: I always end with refresh, my supid prompt that you 1792 01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:10,479 Speaker 2: guys all hate. You have choices, though, Okay, it's either 1793 01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 2: choose which one you want. It's one's called keep it 1794 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:18,200 Speaker 2: rolling and one's called spirit of giving. Okay, which one 1795 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:18,559 Speaker 2: do you want? 1796 01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:19,320 Speaker 3: Keep it rolling? 1797 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:23,599 Speaker 2: Keep it rolling? What is something the Seahawks have been 1798 01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,680 Speaker 2: doing well? Something you liked in the last game or 1799 01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,280 Speaker 2: even in the game prior that you want to see 1800 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:33,000 Speaker 2: them do more of John, You can go ahead and 1801 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,640 Speaker 2: go first. We'll wrap up with. 1802 01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:35,280 Speaker 11: Taking care of the football. 1803 01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,519 Speaker 10: They two straight games with that turnover, they're five and 1804 01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,400 Speaker 10: one when they don't turn the ball over this year, 1805 01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,160 Speaker 10: Pittsburgh's tied for first league and turnover differential. 1806 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:43,360 Speaker 11: So don't give the ball away. 1807 01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:49,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, here you go. I would say continue to limit 1808 01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,800 Speaker 3: the big place. You know, they've had a twenty three 1809 01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:53,719 Speaker 3: yarder and a twenty yarder have been in the last 1810 01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,720 Speaker 3: two games the biggest plays that they've given up. So 1811 01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,080 Speaker 3: as much as I don't like the term ropodope for 1812 01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:04,640 Speaker 3: run defense, UH, if they can continue to do that, 1813 01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:05,400 Speaker 3: I think they get a win. 1814 01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,320 Speaker 5: Bump, keep distributing the football. 1815 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,160 Speaker 4: Last week for receivers, two running backs and two tight 1816 01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:12,720 Speaker 4: ends all had receptions. 1817 01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:17,280 Speaker 2: You guys all have the wrong answer. Well, I mean, 1818 01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:19,439 Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. These are all great answers. 1819 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,920 Speaker 3: You're right, Gino gets on a roll like he gets 1820 01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,640 Speaker 3: when he starts distributing it to There's one driver that 1821 01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:31,960 Speaker 3: goes Bobo Walker. Lock it. Yeah, yeah, awesome. 1822 01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,280 Speaker 2: Makes it tough on a defense. John, thank you so 1823 01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,439 Speaker 2: much for joining us. You guys can read more from 1824 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:40,400 Speaker 2: John Boyle at SILS dot com. UH for Dave Wyman, 1825 01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,599 Speaker 2: Michael Bump as I'm Stacy Ross. This has been the huddle.