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Speaker 2: All Right, Rory today is as one of those days, yeah,

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Speaker 2: This gentleman today is one of the reasons that I

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Today we are joined with legendary DJ, producer, photographer, rapper, rapper,

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Speaker 2: the human t r A oh a he on this

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Speaker 3: Oh when he walked in and said, you know, thank

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Speaker 3: thank you guys for having me, I was like, no,

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Speaker 3: thank you, this is this.

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Speaker 2: Is this is uh And I was just telling you

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Speaker 2: hop growing up in the Bronx. To see all of

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Speaker 2: and everybody representing the culture in the city to me

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Speaker 2: was legendary and a dope cameo one of my favorite movies,

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. That's like a legendary, legendary movie.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we're honest to have you here today, and

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Speaker 2: we just want to nerd out man, like we just

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Speaker 1: When I was walking in the building and turned around

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Speaker 2: Like they don't We're not doing that.

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Speaker 1: It's the truth. It's like, I think that's probably why

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Speaker 1: I'm still here in part of the culture, because I

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Speaker 1: I feel the same way for I ran into Like

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Speaker 1: Barrock is someone you know. It's like people you reminder

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Speaker 1: people were doing great things, but sometimes you see them

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Speaker 1: from as far as my first time, like really like

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Speaker 2: You know, I've been at a few parties you DJ,

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Speaker 2: but never had the opportunity to walk over and shake in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got I gazed from g A Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, No,

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Speaker 3: those are some of my favorite parties in Brooklyn that

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Speaker 1: Was just like, this is the best DJ set I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen. Yeah, it's incredible. They've been like quite I

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Speaker 1: mean even for me where I'm like, you could you

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Speaker 1: could tell when you're in that zone. My favorite parties

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we rarely do this style of interviews where we

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Speaker 3: do like the life story shit, But Mo and I

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Speaker 1: So Dave Chappelle was one of my friends. And one

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Speaker 1: forever grateful for those beginnings. What was your first impression

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Speaker 2: So I was talking to my brother hip Hop last

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Speaker 2: And there's been things online and a couple of videos

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Speaker 2: do you feel like, because you obviously you were there

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm not that old too hip hop right the

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Speaker 1: Even if the history is falses, there's still losses. No, no,

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Speaker 2: But it is kind of interesting to hear those things, like,

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Speaker 1: What was that? Like what it sound? I mean, I've

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Speaker 3: What were some of those early sessions like with Scott

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Speaker 1: How to wrap. Yeah, those young sessions, I mean two things.

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Speaker 3: What what was life like when South Bronx drops, Like

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Speaker 1: Why did you Why did you stop rapping? Because my

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Speaker 1: And did you write all of it? Yeah? I wrote.

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Speaker 1: kept it. I wasn't supposed to have a record out,

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00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: but I did. The crazy went up to the radio

434
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: station and played the record for Red Alert and then

435
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 1: he went to the program the director and let him

436
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: hear it, and then they put it on rotation. I

437
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 1: didn't even have a release day, which was different back then.

438
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: Like now you can just go in the studio, send

439
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 1: anyone your MP three and then you're good. But then

440
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 1: you have to be in the system, and you needed

441
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 1: like a four month kind of like lead time in

442
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 1: order to get the you can't even get it pressed up.

443
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: So I kind of went against that. And then because

444
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: the record became a hit in New York. My career

445
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 1: kind of like was kind of forced on job, so

446
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: they had to put it out. The reason why I

447
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 1: didn't have you know, my my career was kind of

448
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 1: short in hip hop as a solo artist was hip

449
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 1: hop started to shift. I was in this business for

450
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: five years since I was a kid at that point.

451
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 1: Now everything is now it's Park and now it's Biggie

452
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: and bad Boy, and everyone had their cruise and I

453
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: wasn't really a part of anyone's anyone's crew. I was

454
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 1: just d nice out on my own and you know

455
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: for jib for you know, signed a job at the time.

456
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 1: You know, we just we started to clash. You know.

457
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: I wanted to continue making the kind of music that

458
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: I wanted. They didn't want to go in that direction,

459
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: and I couldn't. You know, at that time, those those

460
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 1: deals were like iron clad joints, you know, like so

461
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: they shelved me, so I didn't. That's why I was saying,

462
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 1: like earlier about when the clapping stops, like what do

463
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: you do? But no matter what kind of look back

464
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: at life, like, I'm not here right now. If they

465
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: didn't do that, you know, I still I could have

466
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: still been trying to shop a demo. I could have

467
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: still been trying to be hip hop, and hey, no

468
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: knocking anyone that's been in the game for a while.

469
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: But I could have just been an old school rapper.

470
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: But because I you know, I was kind of forced

471
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: to figure out how to live and how to you know,

472
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: I didn't have money at that point. We weren't really

473
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: making a lot of money in hip hop then, you

474
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like, you know, one hundred grand

475
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: for the year, but you have no shows, you have

476
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 1: no records, and there's no income. So I had to

477
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: sit back for like seven or eight years trying to

478
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: figure out life, you know, and and fell in love

479
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 1: with photography and web development and I started. I started

480
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: a company called called United Camps with about five hundred dollars.

481
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 1: Picked the Motown is my first client, and I was

482
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: building websites. Most people didn't even know that. So like

483
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: Diary Alicia Keys, I built that Wow Crazy Tyree's first album,

484
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: his his website, you know, Annie Lennox, Boys, the Men

485
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: at and t. I was just working on everyone's website,

486
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: which is how I was able to change my life.

487
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: You know, did they know d Nice was making their website. Nah, no,

488
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: they didn't know. The The funny thing is I was

489
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 1: not trying to be d nice, so I did. I

490
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 1: did the g Unit sneaker right. So I was doing

491
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,959
Speaker 1: online marketing with through Violator because Chris loved Chris Light.

492
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: He loved what I was doing. Rest a piece to Chris,

493
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: and he brought me in to build the Violator website.

494
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: So I did that site, and then he brought me

495
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: in to do to help them with online marketing for

496
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: the g Un issue because that was early online marketing days.

497
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: And I was sitting in this meeting with Chris and

498
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: east Out and Paul Fireman who started reboking like his team.

499
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: And then this now I was anti d Nights. I

500
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: was Derek Jones. This was I was ten years removed

501
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: from hip hop and I hated hip hop. I hated

502
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: the business. I was like, yeah, this is terrible man

503
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: to treat people. But what made me fall in love

504
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: with it again was the current Rebox CEO, Todd Krinsky

505
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: walked into the meeting and he walked around the table

506
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: said hello to everyone, and when he got to me,

507
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: he didn't say hello, He just stood there. So I

508
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: stood up like, hey, I'm Derek Jones. And then they

509
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: all laughed because they all in on it, and he

510
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: said he was like, hey, man, he said, graduated from

511
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 1: Boston you and I wrote my thesis on song from

512
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: your first album, song called a Few Dollars More on

513
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: my first solo album Wow, and that in that moment,

514
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: I was like, holy shit, Like my mind, you know,

515
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: the will's are always turning. I was like, Yo, all

516
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: these years I've been running away from d nice but

517
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: that's the biggest asset that I have because the music

518
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: that we all listen to when we're in school, those

519
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: are the songs that really define your life. And like

520
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: I was at that point in my life where wasn't

521
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: a lot of hip hop then. And if you made

522
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: it the ll Cool J's, Kumo d Public Enemy, you

523
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: were special. It wasn't like a one hit thing like

524
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: we were like literally we were a part of someone's

525
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: life and these people are now vps and CEOs, and

526
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I need to do it. After

527
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: I thought about that in that meeting, I was like, man,

528
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: I should do like afterwork mixers, like throw parties to

529
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: just get the people to come out to like yo.

530
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: And then you know, try to work it that way

531
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: just so I could get more business as a web developer.

532
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: I couldn't find a DJ, so I started playing the

533
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: music myself. That's crazy, and then became like obsessed with it,

534
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: like really obsessed with it, Like yo, I mean nobody

535
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: open format wasn't a thing then, you know what I mean,

536
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: Like you either played hip hop or you played I

537
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: mean EDM wasn't really a thing either. But you either

538
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: played hip hop or you played pop music, or you

539
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: played classics like q Tip, you know, and Mark Ronson.

540
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: But nobody was like really playing like everything like that

541
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: or I don't want to say no one, but you know,

542
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: not the places that I was going to, it was

543
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: very limited. And I went to I became obsessed with it,

544
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 1: and I went to and I wasn't really DJing like that.

545
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: I went to a party. Q Tip invited me to

546
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: a party because no one was inviting me out, no

547
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: one because I wasn't I wasn't hot on the scene

548
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: and they didn't know what I was doing. But Tip

549
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: invited me to a party where he and Mark Ronson

550
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: were playing. They had this party in New York called

551
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: Authentic Shit every Thursday night at a place called Table fifty,

552
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: and when I walked in there and I just watched them,

553
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: and I was like, holy shit, Like you could play

554
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: Blondie and then play brand Newdians, you can play the

555
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: old school shit. And the way it looked it was

556
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: like Tip was playing James Brown and they would go

557
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: they would play thirty minute sets. Tip and Monson Mark

558
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: would get on and Mark was playing all nineties early

559
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 1: nineties hip hop. I had never been to a party

560
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: like that, you know, And because of that, I really

561
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: became obsessed to the point where, you know, I stopped

562
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: I stopped even focusing on my web company because I

563
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: wanted to dj. I was very serious about that, and

564
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: I called Chris Lidy up one night and I told him.

565
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, I think I think I just

566
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: wanted DJ And Chris said, are you sure you want

567
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: to get back in this business because these motherfuckers are

568
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: animals now? And I was like, nah, I think I

569
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: really want to do it, and he was like, all right,

570
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: I'll support you, and yeah, I just I started DJing

571
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: more and more. I would play in local clubs here

572
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: in New York, but no hip hop clubs because no

573
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: hip hop person wanted to hire me. But one dude,

574
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: one dude, this cool ass white boy, was like, yo,

575
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: you played rock and Roller. I was like, yeah, I

576
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: grew up in fucking eighties. Like He's like, yo, play

577
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: this party with me, And I started playing like rock

578
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: sets all night. So I kind of reversed my way

579
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: back into like hip hop clubs because I played everywhere

580
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: else but hip hop right, and yeah, man, it just

581
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: took off some of the resentment you have for the business.

582
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: Anybody think that story is fucking no. I think I've

583
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: sitting here like I'm listening to.

584
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 3: Watching a fucking movie like I like zoned out and

585
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: forgot Like that is fucking insane. The fact that DJing

586
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 3: started from shine to network with websites is the crazy ship.

587
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: It's like insane, bro, this is crazy. I would have

588
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: never guessed that.

589
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: And it also makes sense with you and Tip because

590
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 3: I think producers make the best DJs, like I believe

591
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: so too. They're by far dj differently than just regular DJs.

592
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 3: They view ship because they go through create samples everything.

593
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: Like that's literally what it is. That's that's their ship.

594
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: The resemment in the business outside of like being shelved

595
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: and and everything that a lot of artists go through.

596
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 3: Did you have more resentment because of the Kid Rock situation.

597
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: I've heard the story that he told of how you

598
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 3: discovered him, but the fact that JIB wouldn't compensate you

599
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 3: or even Shelvy at that time when you brought somebody

600
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: that was one of the most profitable artists to.

601
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: Date, well it wasn't. Kid Rock wasn't profitable for Jive.

602
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: He only had one album, One Jibe, and that was

603
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,239
Speaker 1: the album That Too Short and I you know, we

604
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: did the production on and then after that they dropped him,

605
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: and then he started doing independent stuff and then he

606
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: signed to Atlantic Records. I thought it was all through

607
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: Jove that no, no, no, he was so all of

608
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: his big albums were through Lava Lava, Jason Flomm's company.

609
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, but listen at the end of the day, bro,

610
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: like I was playing, not physically playing, obviously I'm not

611
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: an athlete, but I was DJing ESPN Super Bowl party.

612
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: This was like maybe around ten years ago, and the

613
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: former CEO of Jive Records was there at the party

614
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: and was like, wow, like I hadn't seen him in forever,

615
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's like, Yo, this is crazy.

616
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: So he watched me play this big ear. This has

617
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Club Quarantine, Like you know, I

618
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: know a lot of people think I was on the

619
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: scene because of that, but I was already playing you know,

620
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: Inaugural Ball the Rock. I had already done all of

621
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: this stuff, which is why this whole journey is so beautiful.

622
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: But I will say this that I remember when when

623
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: Seek happened, and you know the guy I ended up

624
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: like a year after Club Quarantine, I was the music

625
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: for the Oscars, like for you know, like literally all

626
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: of the music until until they started using the live band,

627
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: which was like the second half. But for the entire

628
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: beginning of the Oscars, the infamous you know that Oscar

629
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: I was the music. And then that same guy who

630
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: signed me the Jive sent me in text while the

631
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: show was on and he was like, wow, whold have

632
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: ever thought this d nice at the Oscars? Yeah, you know,

633
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: and it's yeah, that's why I always.

634
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 3: Tell people, man like reply, did you have a petty reply?

635
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

636
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 4: I said, I did an awful CEO. You didn't see

637
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 4: the talent that I had, Like you know that, you

638
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 4: know for sure, That's why.

639
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: I said I can't be mad at that because you.

640
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: Know, it allowed the space and opportunity for all these

641
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: other great things to happen for your for your career.

642
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: Man, That's this is like, I don't even know what

643
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: to ask at this point.

644
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: How did you get Let's talk about because, like you said,

645
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: you was already djaying and doing some of the hottest

646
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: parties in the city before club quarantine happened.

647
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: But COVID happens.

648
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: How how does d Nice become the world's DJ at

649
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: that point?

650
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: Because that's exact exactly what you were.

651
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: Anybody during quarantine that was that had to be home

652
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: and we were on our phones. We were waiting for

653
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: d Nice to go live. Yeah, so we can just

654
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: all for a second, for an hour, to just get

655
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: away from it feel better. And how did it feel

656
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: knowing that you literally had what felt like the world

657
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: waiting for you.

658
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: I was having dinner last night with one of the

659
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: guys who worked at Meta at the time, who kind

660
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: of helped, you know, me be able to do that,

661
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: which I didn't know. I knew him for years, he

662
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: was my guy, but I didn't even realize he was

663
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: over there and he saw what I was doing on

664
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: the first day I think the reason why my situation

665
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: worked versus what anyone else was doing was that one

666
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: I was very vulnerable, you know, like I I mean,

667
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: I was in front of this camera. You know. I

668
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: never used Instagram before. I mean used Instagram. I never

669
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 1: used Live before. You know, they had Paris scoping all

670
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: this craziness. I'm like, who wants to watch someone go live?

671
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: You know? And I'll tell you the crazy story about it. Was.

672
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: So this was March, so maybe like eight months prior

673
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: to that, I was. I was I was playing the

674
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: main stage at Essence Festival. Janet Jackson was performing. I

675
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: was the main stage DJ. And before like a day

676
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: or so before the show, so on from Facebook reached

677
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: out to me and said, hey, we got this new

678
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: feature on Facebook called Live, which I don't think I've

679
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: even told this story. It was like, Yo, we got

680
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: this new feature called Live. You should use it. And

681
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: I was like, well, how much you paying? And it's

682
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: like not paying anything, it's a feature. But once again

683
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: my mind was like, wait a minute. Somebody was squatting

684
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: on the name d Nice on Instagram and I knew

685
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: they own Instagram, and I was like I sent the

686
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: text the email back like, look, if you give me

687
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: my name on Instagram, I'll go live on on on

688
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: Facebook live, you know, when I was off of the

689
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 1: main stage. So two days later she said, I couldn't

690
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: promise you. I can't promise you that. But two three

691
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: days later, I opened up my IG and it no

692
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: longer said DJ d Nice and just said D Nice.

693
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,959
Speaker 1: And I was like, yo, and I couldn't even because

694
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: the dude was blocked. He had one follower. I couldn't

695
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 1: even send him a message like yo, I want my name.

696
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I am DJ D Night. I want D

697
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: Night yet. And so when that happened, I was like, yo,

698
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: I gotta go live. I went live from Essence and

699
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: then a few days later she emailed me and was like,

700
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: you got to see your analytics like people like you.

701
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 1: It's kind of interesting. And I was like, Noah, I'm good.

702
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that again. I was like

703
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: I felt crazy walking around with a phone, like yo,

704
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: you see this, yeah, because that's what I thought it

705
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: was supposed to be. Man, I didn't know eight months

706
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: later that, you know, I woke up that morning and

707
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: I went live on IG for the first time because

708
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: I have anything else to do. I was like, I'm

709
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: gonna go live. I wasn't DJing. I was like, yeah,

710
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: I just want to tell some hip hop stories and

711
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: then I would I went live. I would play like

712
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: the original sample to South Bronx, and then I would

713
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: tell the story about being in the studio. Then I

714
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: would play South Bronx, and I just kept seeing these

715
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: names in there. It was like all of my friends.

716
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: It wasn't even like I mean, there was some famous people,

717
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: you know, John Let, you know whatever, like, but it

718
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: was like really like Chuck Bone and like Jessica Rosenboom,

719
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: who used to throw all of the parties in New York.

720
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: She's in there and they're like, Yo, this is crazy. Yo, Jamille,

721
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: what are you doing in here? It was like I'm

722
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: reading these comments, but I'm telling stories and I'm playing

723
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: records and playing songs from my laptop. And then it

724
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: just felt good. And by the time the end of

725
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: the day, I was like wow, like that was different.

726
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: And then I did it again and it was more people,

727
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: and you know, that first day I went live with

728
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: I would be sure. First. The crazy thing is I

729
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: was calling all of my friends because I heard that

730
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: you could split the screen This was the very first

731
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: day I went live, called Cain, called Dougie, they were

732
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: all Kane went on, he went live with me, but

733
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: Dougie was like, man, this sounds like bullshit pit the screen.

734
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this. I was like, I

735
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: don't know broat So then I hit John legend up

736
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: and then I went live with John and his daughter Lula.

737
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: Is it Lula Luna Luna? She was on his shoulders.

738
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: I went live with him, and then my numbers spiked

739
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: from like the three hundred. She was like six thousand people.

740
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm a tech dude, so I'm like, wait, it's telling

741
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: people his followers. Now I'm obsessed with that part. I

742
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 1: just got to keep going live with people. And yeah,

743
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: in DJ Clark Camp was like you should actually DJ now.

744
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: I was like wow, he was like, you should actually DJ.

745
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: I didn't even have DJ Gearrett home. I didn't believe

746
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: in DJ at home. And then I ran out to

747
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: Guitar Center, came back home, created a flyer. Yo, I'm

748
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: going live. I treated it like it was a party,

749
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: and that shit changed everything. That's incredible. I mean taking

750
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: that approach, I think is made.

751
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: A few some more ship like Clark is always Clark

752
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 2: is always behind some of the most iconic ship in our.

753
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: Car, and if he was here, would make sure you

754
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: knew that that was his so much. It's actually I'm like, bro,

755
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: I was already playing music live. I'm just playing it

756
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: from my laptop. I'm playing the same song. He's like,

757
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: but no, you should actually mix the records now.

758
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 3: But I think that approach you took with the party

759
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: flyer to made it a party. Like in the comments,

760
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: it became a party because it was approached that that way.

761
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: That's how it became club Quarantine. I did not create that.

762
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: It was literally people in the comments. This was before

763
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: the world knew about it. It was people by day three,

764
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: people in the comments, like Jessica's like, yo, I'm at

765
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: the door. It came like this point. And then Jay

766
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: Valentine JAYE Valentine, was like, you should stop calling it

767
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: homeschool because it was called homeschool because I was talking

768
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: about the samples and everything that I produced. I'm like, oh,

769
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: I educate people on hip hop. He was like, you

770
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: should not call it that. You should call it club quarantine.

771
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, that sounds hot fire. And

772
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: then that's how yeah, that's that's how That's what it became.

773
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 3: And people in the comments were having like full blown

774
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: conversations like they was at the bar my homegirls in

775
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: the section now like.

776
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: Bottles you had the most, Like wasn't baracking at one?

777
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: You had one? Like it was named it became.

778
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: It got so big, it became like a marketing thing

779
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 3: for brands, Like you would see fucking Geico in there

780
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 3: trying to have their moment in the comments, like it

781
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 3: was a thing.

782
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: Bro. Today today marks the exact fifth anniversary of that.

783
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: So before I came here, i posted something on on IgM.

784
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: You know, I just want to just swipe in a

785
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: couple of things because my mom was actually just blown

786
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: away by how massive this thing was. And I'm like,

787
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 1: this is like Forbes, d Nice is breaking the Internet,

788
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: lifting spirits. Well, why then you switch again? D Nights

789
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: Hope hosted a lot socialistic up. Beyonce is then Oprah

790
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: is like best party one of one hundred thousand I've

791
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: ever been to. Then to get the DM from someone, hey, major, congrats.

792
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: Oprah just asked for your numbers. She wants to talk

793
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: to you. It's like then it's Mark Zuckerberg, Like Yo,

794
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: d Nice, just do the best I'm today. I was

795
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: sitting here like Jesus Christ, this is crazy. Look Joe

796
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: Biden stopped by d Nice and Social Distance Party. Social

797
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: distance Party. It's called here, Joe. He was six feet

798
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: away from the door. Did you talk to Obrah? I

799
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: did talk to Obra. That kind of taught me, and

800
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 1: we talked and then she interviewed me for her Apple show.

801
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: I remember that. And then and then later on in

802
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: the Quarantine she had her you know, she had the

803
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: book club and her and girl were like walking on

804
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: Oprah's property and then they went live on Instagram with me,

805
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: so talk about books while it was DJ and it

806
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: was crazy. Man. The time. I'll say this, COVID was

807
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: horrible for so many people, which is why I still do.

808
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: I'll go live on ig when I'm home if I'm

809
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 1: not doing anything or you know, I go and I'll

810
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: do my Club Quarantine live shows because the time was

811
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: like so dark, man. But the beautiful part was, you know,

812
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: we were so nice to each other, and we were creative.

813
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: We found ways to stay connected. Like Club Quarantine really

814
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: wasn't about the music that I was playing. It was

815
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: really about the connection that people had the community and

816
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: the community and the conversations, and that that's what was

817
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 1: just beautiful.

818
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: Bro, especially since it's the anniversary today, which is also crazy.

819
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 3: The way you were sitting in a violator and that

820
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 3: guy from Boston University came up and said that you

821
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 3: realize that that music had stuck with him as a kid.

822
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 3: You do realize you have that same shit with people

823
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 3: now with Quarantine, Like that was a moment that's going

824
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 3: to stick with us forever because it was.

825
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 1: It was a fucking awful time.

826
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: That shit brought so much joy that I don't know

827
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 3: if you realize that that really will stick with people

828
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 3: the same way South Bronxing absolutely like that.

829
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: It will stick with people even longer, and it's more

830
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: heartfelt than a record. You know, it's just funny that

831
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: same essence, I met a woman, you know, not even

832
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: not even a flirtations situation. It was just like we

833
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: happened to be in the same hotel and the lobby

834
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 1: and you know, those festivals, it's just a lot of people,

835
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: and she was just nice to me and didn't exchange

836
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: numbers or anything. But when Club Quarantine happened, I was like, Oh,

837
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: that's the doctor oh yea. And I would always shout

838
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,919
Speaker 1: out every single day it would be the same. It'd

839
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: be a lot of people in there, but I would

840
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 1: see like sometimes it would just be the same people

841
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: if I was here playing a nineteen hour cent mel Butnemore,

842
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: I was in there for nineteen hours and this doctor

843
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: was in there for nineteen hours. I had never seen

844
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: her again other than that one time until like a

845
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: year and a half in the COVID when the world

846
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: started to kind of reopen. She happened to be in

847
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: LA and she said, I know this is going to

848
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: sound crazy, do you mind if I stop by your house?

849
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: So I want to introduce you to someone. And I'm like,

850
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: stop by my house? Like that's crazy. But then I'm like,

851
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I don't really notice person. I would

852
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: never just give someone my address, but I know she's

853
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: a doctor. And she rode with me during CQ like

854
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: every single day, and I was like, yo, you know what,

855
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: you can stop by, I'll come outside. She was like,

856
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: I really want you to meet someone. I got came

857
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: over to the house, I came out. I was like,

858
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: all right, I'm coming out, went out. I had my

859
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: baseball cap on She's like, no, you need to put

860
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: the other hat on. He's like, all right, cool, put

861
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: the hat on. A crazy request. So I walked over

862
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: to the car. In the back window rolls down so

863
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: I don't see a body. So I'm like, I lean

864
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: in and I see a car seat. It's like a

865
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: two year old kid in there, and his mom was

866
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: in the front seat. And his mom looked back and

867
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: it was like, baby, who's that? And this kid was like,

868
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: it's d nice yo. I'm almost tearing up now just

869
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: thinking about it, because that's crazy, yo. For that kid,

870
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: that's all he watched during COVID with his parents. That's

871
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: what they had on the screen. They were dancing all day.

872
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: And to know that you that's something like that was done,

873
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: that started in my kitchen, that brought families together and

874
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: brought communities together, is like, It's probably the highlight of

875
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 1: my entire career. I feel like everything that I've done

876
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: in my career was to lead up to a moment

877
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: like that. Because Baraco or Michelle, they weren't in there

878
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: because they just heard about d nice. I was literally

879
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: calling people, you know, because I dj' for them. Call

880
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: this one's assistant, like, hey, there's something magical happening right now,

881
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: like you just listen, you know, and you know, in

882
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: the beginning, it was kind of hard to I mean,

883
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: how do you tell somebody I got a party on

884
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 1: the phone trying to explain that like normal, that normal,

885
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: completely normal? Now, Like how do you explain that? And

886
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: like people when they saw what was happening, they took

887
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: a chance and they just came in and just changed

888
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: the world. Man, absolutely absolutely.

889
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 3: I mean what were some of the responses after you

890
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: had to, you know, explain that and they experienced it.

891
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: What were those follow up phone calls? Like, even if

892
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: it wasn't celebrity related.

893
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: Just yeah, not a phone calls, you know. You know,

894
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: there was one nameless you know that called and offered

895
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: me the morning of the twenty first, was like, Yo,

896
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 1: can you promote this for me? I got one hundred

897
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for you, and I wouldn't do it. I

898
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 1: was like, it's not that I didn't need the money,

899
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: like who when none of us were working, you know

900
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I could have used one hundred

901
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: grand year. But for me, it was like there were

902
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: two things. I've always been like the side dude to

903
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: someone you know, bdp care Rest was the face he was,

904
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: he was the guy. I was not that lyricist. For

905
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: every DJ gig, I had to fight to be someone's

906
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 1: opener or to you know, or wasn't my party because

907
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: I was doing private events. So yeah, I'm playing Jay's party,

908
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: but this is Jay's party. Nobody come in here to

909
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: see me and to have that kind of career since

910
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: eighty six until a moment of March twenty first, twenty

911
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: twenty where people are literally coming to my ig for me,

912
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: I didn't want to promote anyone's thing. I didn't want

913
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: that to become yeah. Like, so I was very like aware,

914
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: I was like, and I said this to that person.

915
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, there's the first time in my

916
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: whole career that this is actually for me, man. And

917
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: then I didn't want to promote anything. People were hurting. Yeah,

918
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: you know, so that when this thing exploded on the

919
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 1: twenty first, two o'clock in the morning, that that person

920
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: called me and was like, wow, congratulate you made the

921
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: right decision. You just became one of the biggest DJs

922
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: in the world. Incredible, and I'm glad I stuck with that,

923
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, And yeah, Man, it's a great feeling.

924
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: I'm sure that came from the decades of having to

925
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 3: reinvent yourself, going through bullshit business.

926
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: Knowing would it's like to be broke and go.

927
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 3: I could use this hunter K, but I know it's

928
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: not going to make sense for the bigger picture here before.

929
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: I could skip over this. Yeah, that's that's beautiful, man.

930
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 2: Talk about because you sold out some of the most

931
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: iconic rooms DJ and Carnegie Hall, Lincoln Center. What is

932
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 2: that like as a DJ from a guy from the

933
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: Bronx that you know, grew up in this culture and

934
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: to where you are today. What is it like to

935
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 2: be in those rooms where, honestly, you know, our culture

936
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 2: hip hop is really not maybe accepted in those rooms

937
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: all the time, Like nobody has really ever had a

938
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 2: hip hop concert at Carnegie Hall Lincoln Center, Like, so

939
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: what is it like for d Nice to be in

940
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: these rooms bringing hip hop culture?

941
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: I mean it's yeah, I always think about that kid

942
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: from the Bronx, you know, like I never imagine selling

943
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: out the Hollywood Bowl as a DJ, even before I

944
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: even mentioned anyone that's going to be a special guest,

945
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: you know, sold that place out in four days. You know,

946
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: Carnegie Hall sold out Carnegie Hall twice I played it.

947
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: I played it three times twice just as much show

948
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: and then once I played and sold out. But I

949
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: was a part of like Jerry Seinfeld and like and

950
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart, like it was a whole collective and that

951
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: was great. But like to be able to to play

952
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: like these iconic stages in from hip hop, but also

953
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: respecting those stages. So like I sold out like Kenney

954
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: sent to Opera House, like I just sold it out

955
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: in January, but like that was like my third sellout

956
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: you know where I rock with an orchestra, you know.

957
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: So it's not like my thing was like if if

958
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna let me on these stages, I got to

959
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: bring something different, you know. You know I don't I

960
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: don't want to just be a DJ up there and

961
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: just take all of the money. I want to invest

962
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: back into my show and to do something different with this.

963
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: So you know, I remember I called too Short up

964
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, bro, I'm playing no. This is

965
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 1: the one I called Jada kiss hit Jada up because

966
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: it was it was too short was the Kennedy Center,

967
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: Jada was Carnegie Hall, and I I was like, yo,

968
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm playing Carnegie. He was the first person that I

969
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: hit up. And it wasn't based on like knock yourself

970
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: out or any It was all based on were gonna

971
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: make it? Because when I stood on that stage, like

972
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: when we did the Deal and I did a venue

973
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: walk through, I was standing on that stage and at

974
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: Carnegie Hall, and I was like, yo, I made it.

975
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring hip hop like this to this, but

976
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: I want everybody to be fly like they had hip

977
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 1: hop there before. J played it, Nas played it. Mc

978
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: light was the first person to play it as a

979
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: part of a collective, but like it had only been

980
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: Jay and no like for a full show. I was like,

981
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: but there was no DJ's, like hip hop DJ none

982
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: of that. I was like, yo, I need Jada kiss

983
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: because of those strings. And I was like, I'm going

984
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: to I'm gonna bring the orchestra, and the woman from

985
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: Carnigie was like, wait, You're really gonna use an orchestra.

986
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, absolutely, like full strings. Everything while

987
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm DJing track is gonna still be playing. I'm just

988
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: gonna add the energy to it. And I told Jada

989
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: that he was like, I don't know about this. It's

990
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: like the day he came to rehearsal and we were

991
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: all sitting there talking. I was like, all right, yo,

992
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: let's go and I started playing a record and then

993
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: the strings came in.

994
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 3: Yo.

995
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, another level. I never heard my

996
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: music like this. This is crazy. He's like, I was like, yeah,

997
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: but we all got to wear tuxedos. He brought styles

998
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: pr with him. Jada had his tongue off, but Stiles.

999
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: Stiles had a tuxedo made out of track wear. It

1000
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: was flying over a draw street. He's like, yeah, I

1001
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,479
Speaker 1: had to have this maid. You know about that life.

1002
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta be style himself at every moment. Style.

1003
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: But it's great to be able to like, not not

1004
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: just as d nice, but to be able to be

1005
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: someone to bring people who have never played some of

1006
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: those stages you deserve to deserve that stage in their

1007
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: own way. Come on, bro, I had to ask too short,

1008
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, to do. I'm like, bro, I need you

1009
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: to do blow the whistle with me with the orchestraet.

1010
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 1: I don't know how it sounds crazy like I sell

1011
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: it to me. D I'm with you, but I can't

1012
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: see it. Bro. Y know it was crazy crazy. It

1013
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: was like He's like, I want to I just want

1014
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: to sit in the crowd before because I had him

1015
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: going on last Man. By the time he watched the

1016
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: whole show E P M D. I had everybody on

1017
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: this hip hop bro. I had diggable planets like everybody

1018
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: with Thera with me, DJ and Man Short was like,

1019
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: I ain't never seen anything like this. This is crazy.

1020
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: So to be able to bring our icons and hip

1021
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: hop on on Onto because I know, listen, I'm hip hop,

1022
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: but I also know that I'm more popular culture these days,

1023
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: and I respect that, but I love my hip hop

1024
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: culture as well as like the producer side. So to me,

1025
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 1: it's important to combine that, yeah, my hip hop side

1026
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: to always remember, you know, like tomorrow night, I got

1027
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: nice and Smooth Shannon stage with Melbourne More and Shirley

1028
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: Jones of the Jones Girls, but I got day Lost

1029
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: Soul and I have rock Kim closing, but I have

1030
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: Tracy Spencer going on first with me rocking, singing tender kisses.

1031
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: You would normally, normally you'd be like, yo, this shows

1032
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 1: a little all over the place. But when you think

1033
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: about what club Quarantine was, it was all of those

1034
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: people in there. Yeah, and to have a fifth anniversary

1035
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: and to not find a way that we can all

1036
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: share the stage and share the love and Deborah Cox

1037
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: and to be able to do that, I think it's important.

1038
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: I think it's just like breaking new grounds by doing something.

1039
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: Did any of the producers from those songs hit you?

1040
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 1: Like did Alchemists?

1041
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 3: I wish there was a video of you on face

1042
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 3: time with Alchemists when those strings were playing.

1043
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: The funny thing is it wasn't like Alchemist has been

1044
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: in the live when I was DJM, But it wasn't

1045
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: the hip hop producers that reached out to me. It

1046
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: was Jimmy Jam. It was now Rogers. It was like

1047
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: the not that you know Alchemist and then the icons

1048
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: definitely icons in their own right, but like Jimmy Jam

1049
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 1: is Jimmy Jam different and like different. Jimmy Jam is

1050
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: in there every day and I'm playing a song. I mean,

1051
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: I was playing, like you know, I'm sure y'all know

1052
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: Alexander O'Neil and Charelle Saturday Love. I'm playing the song.

1053
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy's in there telling the story on when he fucked it,

1054
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: Like yo, oh, we were in this studio.

1055
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: You can't pay for this type that is fucking incredible.

1056
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 1: You know. I started playing Chic Records, and all of

1057
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: a sudden, like I had opened up for now Rogers

1058
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 1: like years maybe like two thousand and twelve a Nantucket,

1059
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: but it wasn't like now was my guy God, But

1060
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: then we became close because I was playing so much

1061
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: Chic Records and now we're coming there and Madonna would

1062
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: be in there and then but then Fat Joe was

1063
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 1: in there. It's just like crazy. Yeah, by the way,

1064
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 1: I know this all sounds crazy and and I hope

1065
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: no one takes this in, you know, like I'm like

1066
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: I'm bragging anything, but to see all of these people

1067
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: from different eras of music and different genres and like,

1068
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: you know, I would have randomly like I woke up

1069
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 1: one Sunday morning and you know, I was like, man,

1070
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: I just want to play gospel music, Like who the heck?

1071
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: I just started playing a gospel set, and then all

1072
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: of a sudden, all the gospel artists were in there,

1073
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: Fred Hammond and like so so for Club Quarantine or

1074
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: just My ig Live to have been this space of

1075
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 1: like like community but also this kind of safe space

1076
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: for artists too. You know, to be able to still

1077
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: share their love of music and tell their stories. And

1078
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 1: you know, which is why, you know, ninety nine percent

1079
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: of the music that I played, I tried to play

1080
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: the clean versions just because you never know who's listening,

1081
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: who's on the other end.

1082
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 3: Man, Do you think meta? Let me not put it

1083
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 3: on meta? Do you think the major labels are step

1084
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 3: over a dollar to get a penny by now striking

1085
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 3: and copywriting all music on IJI Love?

1086
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is that hustling backwards? I think it's I think

1087
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: because it's all their whole business is all based on streaming,

1088
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: So for them, that is taking away the business from them.

1089
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: But technically, I looked at it more from a radio

1090
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: station perspective, you know, like if I'm playing these songs,

1091
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: I played a lot of old school music, you know,

1092
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: because I wanted this kind of nostalgic feeling and then

1093
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: to have you know, so you know, people on these

1094
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: some of these platforms to just not allow people to

1095
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,959
Speaker 1: play the music. It's like, bro, it's only you're playing

1096
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 1: a snippet of it, You're playing two minutes. That person

1097
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: may want to just go and buy this. This was

1098
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: so that was like my argument during covid on how

1099
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: I was able to still play because I went to them,

1100
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you can't can't shut this off, you know,

1101
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: like this is saving lives. Yeah, and then they kind

1102
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: of like help make that happen and to me, because

1103
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be smarter than all of us.

1104
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 3: To me, it's hustling backwards because after you would do

1105
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 3: a set, I would go on my timeline and find

1106
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 3: the nerd that that made the d nice playlist for

1107
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 3: this day, and the streams went up for every song.

1108
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 3: It was like promotion. Like I don't understand why they're

1109
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 3: trying to do this. Now I'm done with IG live

1110
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 3: because I can't play music on it. Yeah, it makes

1111
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 3: no sense to me. It's promotion. If somebody hears this shit, now,

1112
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 3: you think they're not going to want to go listen

1113
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 3: to that song again.

1114
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: So I don't have any shares of meta. I don't

1115
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: have any you know, sucks, But I will say this, man,

1116
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: it's like it's not necessarily just their fault. I think

1117
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: the major labels more meta, more on the music side,

1118
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: because it's not that's not a streaming platform. Yeah, you know,

1119
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: so major labels probably don't feel like, you know, how

1120
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: are we benefited from it? You know? Like, but I'm like, bro,

1121
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: this is like promoting the music. Yes, that's how you're benefiting.

1122
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: You know, that's how the artist benefits. You know.

1123
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 3: But even like a program the way they do with

1124
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 3: verified checks, if there was a way a verified DJ

1125
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 3: would get all free range to play whatever that, Like,

1126
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 3: I don't understand why majors aren't trying to make a

1127
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 3: program like that. Like me and Maul used to do

1128
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 3: battles of different artists during quarantine back and forth. That

1129
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 3: was getting twenty thousand, thirty thousand people in there, Yeah,

1130
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 3: playing mixtape Wayne and fab shit. I don't understand why

1131
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 3: certain people, if you're verified to some degree within the

1132
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 3: music industry, that you're not allowed to do that because

1133
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 3: it's going to be promotion for everybody, Like you're not

1134
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 3: going to lose money on.

1135
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: This form is allowing you to do it. That's just

1136
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: not the platform that you chose, I guess, you know, Yeah,

1137
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: because YouTube did whitelist a lot of people. Fair Oh,

1138
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: they did allow people to play music obviously Twitch.

1139
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 3: Oh I mean Twitch, they would they small Instagram's boots after.

1140
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, you know, because its own you know Amazon,

1141
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: you know, Like so it was more like IG wasn't

1142
00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: really it, but IG was just IG is the perfect form,

1143
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: you know, especially at that time for playing music, because

1144
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: it was like one stop shopping exactly. You know, you

1145
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: open your phone, you're checking Instagram, you see someone live,

1146
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, I'm gonna click on that.

1147
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 3: That's why it pissed me off that IG went that route,

1148
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 3: because I get twitching YouTube, like damn, this was this

1149
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 3: was the best community I had was here.

1150
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: And yeah and Twitch, even though sonically it was better,

1151
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: you know, because you had stereo sound. I g it

1152
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: was just mono like everything I was just rung. But

1153
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: it was just the best platform. The grittiness it was

1154
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: feeling then, like yo, I'm looking at my pictures and

1155
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: let me go, oh all right, malls on, let me

1156
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: see that. Oh oh Shan is live. It was like

1157
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: look at TV station, you know, Twitch, you had to

1158
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: go there because you wanted to hear that person. Well

1159
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, but yeah, man, but hey listen, I wish

1160
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: I wish it was a lot easier. I wish people

1161
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: had free rate to play what they wanted to play.

1162
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: You know, it just makes it that much easier and

1163
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: you know, not promoting their platform. I will say this,

1164
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: the music changed their platforms absolutely, you know. But on

1165
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: the flip side, I think it's just me. I'm not

1166
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: a doctor, none of that. But I personally feel like

1167
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,919
Speaker 1: suicide rates would have been higher if we didn't have

1168
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: that connection during that time, if we didn't have if

1169
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: we couldn't dance, you know what I mean, if we

1170
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: couldn't just talk to people. I think depression would have

1171
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: been a lot higher. Anxiety levels through the roof because

1172
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: you really think about how many people were Like, here's

1173
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: the deal, Like, you have kids, you have a job,

1174
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: wake up seven, six thirty am, getting your kids ready

1175
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: for school, drop them off to school. You're going to

1176
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: work from nine to five, kids come home. You know,

1177
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: from six to eight. This was the only time you

1178
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: actually spent with your kids. Dinner, go to bed, repeat,

1179
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: So you really didn't spend that much time of your family.

1180
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: Quarantine hit stuck twenty four hours with everybody, abusive relationships,

1181
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: like couldn't go anywhere. Some people put headphones on to escape,

1182
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: Like it was magical, you know what I mean?

1183
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 3: Like have you someone look forward to as well? A

1184
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 3: flyer meant something at that time, like three more.

1185
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: Hours, all right, but I know what I'm doing Tonight.

1186
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 3: People were getting dressed up in the crib, getting dressed

1187
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 3: up in the crib to dance in their living room

1188
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 3: in the socks went full gowns on, and on top

1189
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 3: of it, the silly shit that I was doing during

1190
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 3: I can't imagine.

1191
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: Just I used to get up in the middle of

1192
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: the night when a bathrobe in Pj's like, yo, this

1193
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: is after dark. I can't. I'm like, I looked at it.

1194
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, what was I think? But we didn't have

1195
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: a choice. We had we were stuck out. I mean,

1196
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: I had this character I was Chinchilla Jones and somebody

1197
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: sent me a Chiller Jones cup and the diamonds. I

1198
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: looked at that the other day, I'm like, what is that?

1199
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: Figuring it out, But in that moment it was crazy.

1200
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, we needed the entertainment. But for people,

1201
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: they were doing the same thing. I remember saying, like

1202
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: so crazy. I got a d M from someone from NASA,

1203
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: literally from the NASA handle, like, yo, remember during quarantine,

1204
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: that's not nothing, that's not nothing. Upset that loadst the

1205
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: rocket dude, quarantine. Yo. They were like we want you

1206
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: to be the theme music what we had, like, yo,

1207
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: I was playing David Bowie, I'm controlling. It's holy. The

1208
01:02:58,520 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: whole experience of like.

1209
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 3: Crazy crazy getting a DM from Nasai's that's like who

1210
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 3: sent you? That?

1211
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: Is crazy?

1212
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 3: Yea?

1213
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: How do you get your first fe like? What the fuck?

1214
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 2: Backtracking a little bit, just a personal question. Why wasn't

1215
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 2: a Time to Flow as big as my Name is D?

1216
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 2: Because now I thought that was my ship.

1217
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: Time to Flow was a better record than Call Me

1218
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: D Nice Sonically, I think the problem was I didn't

1219
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: know myself as an MC, so I went into it

1220
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: trying to compete, trying to keep up with with Tretch

1221
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: because I was doing that, I was rhyming like him,

1222
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I do only know

1223
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: this now because looking bad. I was a kid when

1224
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: I did that, you know. But I was trying to

1225
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: like yo, I'm just as nice. But that's not why

1226
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: people like me, you know what I mean? So I

1227
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: don't think I had my own personality in that record.

1228
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,439
Speaker 1: I think it sounded like which is so craz because

1229
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: everyone raps the same right now. But yeah, everyone's doing

1230
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: the same flow, cadence everything. But then that was like

1231
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: a no, no, you know no that We.

1232
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 2: Talked about that a lot, like back then you got

1233
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 2: clown for sound like for anybody.

1234
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: So I think the reach is so unique as well.

1235
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: The record for for the people that like D Nice

1236
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 1: so call me D Nice, that just wasn't it for them,

1237
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But for me that was

1238
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: like that was that was that was my ship like

1239
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: it was before, was my ship, you know. And I

1240
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: did that track with with KG. Kg came in with

1241
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: the drums and all that he had Dave who played

1242
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: piano on on on their records. It was like fun,

1243
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: but it would have probably would have been a bigger

1244
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: record if it was just a trench record. Okay, that

1245
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: makes sense, Like do.

1246
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 3: You have do you have any trench stories? One of

1247
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 3: my favorite people man Trench, Tretch and Pop. Listen the

1248
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 3: two of them.

1249
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 2: Man, I don't know who has better stories by the way,

1250
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 2: between D Nice and Print Yeah Bream. One day I

1251
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 2: just I asked Prem with a bathroom and then found

1252
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 2: out through that question that him and Pac was roommates

1253
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 2: on tour ones.

1254
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: I said, Prem, I just wanted to know where the bathroeld.

1255
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 3: The amount of times I just would go to prem

1256
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 3: Studio just to ask one simple question, knowing I was

1257
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 3: about to get a three hour and I would just

1258
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 3: sit there like Indian style.

1259
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: Just because you when you're living the history, you don't

1260
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: even realize it, you know what I mean, Like I

1261
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: remember you know this is a POC story. I mean,

1262
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 1: I was in Atlanta. My cousin who was my DJ,

1263
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: we called him Mick Boo. He was in BDP. It

1264
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: was like in the crew BDP. We were in Atlanta.

1265
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: I didn't smoke weed. We had this party. Pak was like, yo,

1266
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: the music is loud, like yo, you got a blunt

1267
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: and I was like nah. So he got a blunt

1268
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: from someone, split it open, rolled it up, talking, you

1269
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: got you got a light? No, got a light with

1270
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: someone did? He went to pass me the blunt and

1271
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: I was like, now smoke yo. He was like yo,

1272
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: you don't smoke. You don't smoke the cronic. I'm like no,

1273
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: I feeling bad. So my cousin was like yo, he

1274
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: he wanted some so Pock handed him the blunt, the flashlight.

1275
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: It was the cops, you and you come with us.

1276
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: You're under arrest, literally like clown me in two minutes,

1277
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: not even two minutes getting arrested, getting arrested.

1278
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 3: This is why Pok shot those cops in Atlanta.

1279
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: It don't makes sense now, so we're now they're in

1280
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: the kitchen of the club. What I will say about

1281
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: park Roll, he was a stand up dude man, because

1282
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: he wouldn't let them arrest my cousin. He was like, yo,

1283
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: don't arrest him. Solid it was mine, it was mine,

1284
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: it was mine, don not don't arrest him. I'm seeing

1285
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: all this from afar And they let my cousin go,

1286
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: and they arrested him, you know what I mean. Like

1287
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: he was a solid dude man, you know. And Trench,

1288
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: Trench was the same way, bro like Tretch, not even

1289
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: but Trench is a solid dude like he you know,

1290
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: he was just he was just wild though. He was

1291
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: just different, Like who goes performs on stage with a machete,

1292
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: like like literally with a machete, change shit like yo.

1293
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,919
Speaker 1: But it was Floers, Yeah, yeah, absolutely thing.

1294
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 3: And Trench of course comes across rightfully. So is one

1295
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 3: of the scariest people also one of the nicest humans ones.

1296
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: But don't cross him though, you know, I used to

1297
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: would never Yeah, I used to go where they lived

1298
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 1: in East Orange, one hundred and eighteenth Street, I mean

1299
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: on eighteenth Street. I grew up one hundred and eighteen

1300
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: Street in Harlem. But like I would go out there

1301
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: and hang out with them because you know, even before

1302
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: they got their deal, because Shot Kim Shot Kim and

1303
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: Queen Latifa and I were like, like, I mean, obviously

1304
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: they're still the best friends and business partners, but I

1305
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: was always with them, you know, like like Dana and

1306
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: I we all lived in the same building in Jersey,

1307
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: this old pencil factory called Dixon Mills, Like right, we

1308
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: all lived there. Yep. She had her video store. And

1309
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: remember back then, you didn't you know, you couldn't wire

1310
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 1: your rent money. It was all rentals. So if she

1311
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: was on tour, if I was on tour, if he

1312
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: was on tour, like we would pay each other's rent,

1313
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like just get it back

1314
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 1: from each other. But like we just have all these

1315
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: stories of like that's great time. So I would always

1316
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: hang with Sha and like, yo, let's go let's go

1317
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: to East Starrings, hang with Naughty, So yeah, man, it's

1318
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: but my stories, bro, like just to have been in

1319
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: hip hop this long and and and still be here

1320
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,839
Speaker 1: and to still be respected by my peers, old school

1321
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: and younger cats. You know, it's it's just beautiful.

1322
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 2: It's I mean, just just sitting here and just kicking

1323
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 2: it with you today. Man, It's just you know, it's

1324
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 2: a testament of exactly how much the culture will take

1325
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 2: care of you if you take care of it. And

1326
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 2: I think and just listening to you in your story,

1327
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 2: you you you always had respect with you. Whatever you did,

1328
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 2: you respected it, Like you said, you took things apart,

1329
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 2: you wanted to learn it, how it works, how it functions.

1330
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 2: And I think that's just reflective of you know, even

1331
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 2: Club Quarantine again not knowing it, but then once you

1332
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 2: figured out what it was and how to do it,

1333
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 2: became the biggest DJ at a time where we all

1334
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 2: needed music to get us through.

1335
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: The Other part for me is like how much the

1336
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: younger generation rock with me? Like I'll be fifty five

1337
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: years old, Bro, I don't feel it, you don't look it,

1338
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 1: don't look it at all. No, But then Jimmy your

1339
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 1: skincaret probably Melani, I'll be I'll be fifty five and

1340
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 1: to have been around this long and like to remember

1341
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: when I was when I told you before like a

1342
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 1: lot of hip hop DJs weren't really trying to let

1343
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: me open up for them or you know. And this

1344
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: was like early on. One person that reached out Jamaine Duprie.

1345
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, Jamaine, I don't even know Jamaine like that.

1346
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: He had a social depth holiday party in New York

1347
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 1: and Jamaine's like, y'all want d nice y'all. I got

1348
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: a call one day from Axe Deodorant. One of the

1349
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: execs was like, Yo, mister T, I wants you to

1350
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 1: open up for him. I was like, T, I knows

1351
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: who I am. T I wants you to open up

1352
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: for him. I'm like, yo, he knows who. Because I

1353
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: felt seen, you know what I mean, to be away

1354
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 1: from hip hop for so long, to feel seen by

1355
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: the younger people, you know what I mean? It was

1356
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: like or the newer artists say the younger people with

1357
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: the newer artists was like yo. So it made me

1358
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 1: always want to incorporate their music with what I grew

1359
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: up with, to the records that we sampled to. So

1360
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 1: that's why in my sets, y'all, I play everything Jay

1361
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 1: to Sammy Davis Junior. If it feels right, I was

1362
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: gonna throw a Sammy Davis song. But if if the

1363
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: beat flows with it and I can get it in

1364
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,759
Speaker 1: there and like and like take you on this journey,

1365
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,440
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna do that because.

1366
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,879
Speaker 2: Is that how you approach Yeah, you approach every party differently,

1367
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 2: like you got to feel it while you're there.

1368
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't have any like playlists at all. Like

1369
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: I don't have a playlist literally, Like the only thing

1370
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: that will look like a playlist on my computer is

1371
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 1: because sometimes at the end of the night, I'll be like, yeah,

1372
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 1: that shit, that set was crazy. I just kind of

1373
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: want to reminder in case. In case, I'm like, yo,

1374
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: what did I play that night? That that one song

1375
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: that I just randomly put on, Then I'll go to

1376
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 1: that folder from that damn like, oh my gosh, that's

1377
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: what it was, Like I forgot how dope? What's his name?

1378
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: Derek Bentley joint was with Andre three thousands. Literally the

1379
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,879
Speaker 1: other day I had not heard that song in years,

1380
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 1: and like last two weeks ago, I was at home

1381
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: and I'm playing a set on ig even Fun and

1382
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: I started humming at I'm like, what was that? And

1383
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 1: then I figured it out and just dropped it. Now

1384
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 1: I'm like I got to make this a part of

1385
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: my set. The three stacks went off in that and

1386
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: the beat is crazy records. But that's how I DJ.

1387
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: It's like I'll feel, I'll remember something and then it's

1388
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: like I gotta go there. But the other part that's

1389
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: beautiful is I'm not a hip hop DJ, so I

1390
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: get to play whatever it is that I want. That

1391
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 1: feeling doesn't just have to be with any one specific genre.

1392
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: I can be playing like you know, hove and then

1393
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, oh this this this goes crazy with

1394
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 1: this Bowie record name because of the drums, like, oh,

1395
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna blend it in based on that,

1396
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 1: and then it's just magical. It's like painting. You know.

1397
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 3: I know you probably signed some NDAs, But what's the

1398
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 3: craziest record that you saw Barock just knock his head to?

1399
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: All Right? The craziest Barock record story would be because

1400
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: but Rock likes he actually likes hip hop, like like

1401
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 1: trap hip hop and like, you know, but he loves music.

1402
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 1: His playlist that he you know, the list he puts out,

1403
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 1: it's truly a reflection of like what he likes, you know,

1404
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: and definitely have an NDA.

1405
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 3: But I.

1406
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: Can't say this because this is just one of those

1407
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: moments where I was like, Yo, this is crazy. Not

1408
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: already dj the inaugural ball. This was before COVID. He

1409
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: wasn't in No, he was still he was still president

1410
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 1: at the time, So no until I didn't play because

1411
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 1: I played Like the second to the last party at

1412
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: the White House, there's like a viral video with everyone

1413
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 1: swacksurfing in a way. I was DJing that joke. But

1414
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: we were on Martha's vineyard. This was the craziest scene

1415
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 1: to like see a sitting president like on vacation. We're

1416
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,600
Speaker 1: at someone's house, one of his boys. I'm DJing this

1417
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 1: party and I just had to get there for sound check.

1418
01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: It's like massic service coming in. I get this. See

1419
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:05,799
Speaker 1: how crazy that situation is. They had, you know, artillery

1420
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:09,719
Speaker 1: I've never seen before with like very specific scope playing.

1421
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 1: I was like, you shoot your mustache off. This isn't

1422
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,560
Speaker 1: even in Call of Duty. I was like, this is crazy.

1423
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: So now I'm DJing party. It's like fifty people, you know,

1424
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: So I'm playing a party and he came over to me.

1425
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: He was like, hey, man, what's that song you're playing?

1426
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, it's called Candy Rain. Then

1427
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: he walked for real. Then he came back, He's like,

1428
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: who says that? I was like, so for real? And

1429
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: then he started laughing and joking and you know, like

1430
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: if you you homies. He put his arm around me,

1431
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: around him. I'm laughing. And then in this one moment,

1432
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 1: I remember when all of those people were set up.

1433
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 2: If I do hate, I'm done shooting that hat, shooting

1434
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 2: that hat off again.

1435
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 3: Yet your head blown off to Candy Rain. It's crazy,

1436
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 3: but that's dope though. The Candy Raid, Yeah, that was

1437
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 3: a gem.

1438
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: That was a joy. That was the joy right there.

1439
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 1: That's hilarious.

1440
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 3: Before we get out of it, what what was your

1441
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 3: favorite verses during quarantine? Because it was it was you

1442
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 3: and verses outside of the DJ that ended racism. I

1443
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 3: forgot his name, what was his name? David tried to

1444
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 3: end race tried to crazy. That the clip I've ever

1445
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 3: seen in my fucking life.

1446
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 1: That was crazy. Yeah, yeah, but I'm still trying to

1447
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 1: recover from that. That was crazy. Let us wiping our

1448
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: groceries down for sure? Absolutely, God absolutely, But yeah, I

1449
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: mean versus, it was you and versus in my opinion,

1450
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: What was your favorite one my favorite versus. I mean,

1451
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be biased because I was on the versus,

1452
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: so I, yeah, you rated the Earth Winding Fire versus

1453
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 1: Isley Brothers, so you know, like I put the songs together.

1454
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 1: The crazy part about that was I was very vocal

1455
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 1: I love earth Winding Fire and but I love the

1456
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 1: Isley Brothers and I would always say that, and I

1457
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 1: forgot that, like Philip Bailey and them were always on

1458
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:17,600
Speaker 1: my ig. So when they found out that I was

1459
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: the music were setting it up. They're like, he's setting

1460
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 1: it up. We want him to do that. He already's rigged.

1461
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 1: But I love that they approach a battle that way.

1462
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: That's crazy. But I was pairing the song based on

1463
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: what the feeling was. I'm like yo. And then on

1464
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,679
Speaker 1: top of it, they gave me they said, we want

1465
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 1: to do a different kind of verses we want, which

1466
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 1: is producing. By the way, that's that's producing. But they

1467
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: gave me a break of like I could play six

1468
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 1: songs back to back of my own many verses of

1469
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 1: this songs. Oh wow. So in that versus, I just

1470
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: played a whole set where it was like I was

1471
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 1: going back and forth from one I either this one

1472
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 1: or that, and it was like, yo, that was flying man.

1473
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 1: So personally, I'm gonna say that one was my favorite. Yeah,

1474
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm not even yeah, that's that's it for me.

1475
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 2: That's I mean you, I mean that's earth when it fire,

1476
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, who's gonna argue with that?

1477
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 1: Who's gonna with that?

1478
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 3: To put you on the spot quickly, it doesn't have

1479
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 3: to be in order top five DJs of all time

1480
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:31,839
Speaker 3: excluding yourself.

1481
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm definitely not top five, so that wouldn't even

1482
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 1: do that. But that's different. Depends on the genre, you know,

1483
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 1: like different because listen, I like Calvin Harris a lot,

1484
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, I mean so, but he's not grand Master Flash.

1485
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: But I like, I'll go to his show and I'm like, yo,

1486
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: this is crazy, right, So if I just stick to

1487
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: like hip hop, but stick to hip hop, man, man,

1488
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: that's different. Did this party DJ versus?

1489
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 3: But everything you're saying, like people like Clark or Scratch, like,

1490
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 3: you could put them in any scenario. It doesn't have

1491
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 3: to be hip hop and they're going to shine. So

1492
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 3: to me, that's really when I'm asking your top five DJs.

1493
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be a genre.

1494
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 1: DJs no matter where they go, They will shine. I

1495
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:20,919
Speaker 1: love Mark Ronson.

1496
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1497
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 1: Mark. We put Mark in any room for anybody, and

1498
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 1: Mark is gonna shine. Producers make the best DJs. Yeah,

1499
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:34,719
Speaker 1: Clark Camp for sure. I love Stretch. I'm strong. Yeah, y'all,

1500
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: Stretch will shine. Don't let them play said right, he's

1501
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 1: bodying you. Yeah, looking at this white notice I did

1502
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: the corny of ship. I introduced myself to Stretch on

1503
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 1: the G train. He was sitting there and I was like,

1504
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 1: I can't not say like hello. I was like, y'all,

1505
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 1: I just want to say something.

1506
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 3: With a fan, like like I felt like I played

1507
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 3: myself once I got off the platform, but I like,

1508
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 3: there's no way.

1509
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting on the train Stretch trying to think.

1510
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 1: Who else do I like? I really like he DJ's

1511
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 1: for Usher now, but he's like older generation, but he's

1512
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 1: still rocking. DJ Mars go to Atlanta and he yeah, bro,

1513
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: he was having the parties crazy, like to the point

1514
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 1: where I didn't want to get on with him. Man.

1515
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, because he knew those records and uh man,

1516
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 1: who else? I got one more? I got one more.

1517
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 1: Rich Medina is a different Rich Medina is part of

1518
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 1: the reason that I play with the soul. Now, I know,

1519
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 1: I named a lot of New York DJs because that's

1520
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 1: who I was going to hear, you know, And I

1521
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 1: got to spend a lot of time and I see

1522
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 1: the love of music. But like Rich Rich's knowledge, you know,

1523
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 1: he's he I mean, he doesn't brag about it, but

1524
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 1: he's like Cornell Dude. With Cornell, he's like literally like

1525
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 1: just this brilliant mind. But he's this guy that fully

1526
01:19:55,840 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: loves music. I think he loved music. Clark was more

1527
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 1: of a showman who did love music, but it was

1528
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: the showman. Rich just the music bro and like h

1529
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 1: Quest love like Quest Quest is crazy to me. It

1530
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: took me a minute to understand his DJ because I

1531
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 1: couldn't figure out. I'm like, why is he doing that?

1532
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 1: Like what was he playing? And one day I went

1533
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 1: to a party. Quest would be my sixth man. I

1534
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 1: would say that because I went to a party and

1535
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 1: totally changed how I DJ. I went to a party.

1536
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 1: I walked in. He was DJ, and he was playing.

1537
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: He was mixing Nirvana and Poison and Belle de Vogue Poison.

1538
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 1: I'm like, in that moment, he was like the Poison

1539
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 1: drum and then he was switching to the and I

1540
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, he's a fucking drummer. He's

1541
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 1: not playing from the baseline. He's playing from the drums.

1542
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,600
Speaker 1: He not not four on the floor, He's playing like

1543
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 1: the feeling of the drums. Holy shit. Totally changed everything.

1544
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, I got to like really

1545
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: pay attention to these that's incredible.

1546
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 3: Ques quest DJ is the way J Dilla produces. It's

1547
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 3: the most unorthodox ship.

1548
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 1: I would just go.

1549
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 3: I'd go to Brooklyn bul By myself sometimes just to

1550
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 3: see a quest Love DJ said like.

1551
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 1: I tell you this, I know, I know, we gotta go.

1552
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to take him this story. I'm good. So

1553
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: two years ago I was supposed to DJ Jay and

1554
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: Beyonce's gold Party Oscar Joint and it was the night

1555
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 1: so yeah, that was two so it's three oscars, so yeah,

1556
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:40,799
Speaker 1: it was the night that I was DJ on the Oscar,

1557
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: so like DJ the Oscars. Then I played the Governor's

1558
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: Ball right after the Oscars. Then I left there. I

1559
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 1: played Vanity Fair for one hour and then I was

1560
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 1: supposed to end up at Jay's party, but Jay found

1561
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,799
Speaker 1: out that I was also doing Madonna's Party and Madonna

1562
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 1: and Gout Series. So it's like, yo, those are those

1563
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,600
Speaker 1: are the parties that everyone want. They all want to

1564
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 1: go to. So Jay's like, nah, you can do that.

1565
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: That will do you. Another time in the following year

1566
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 1: when he hit me up, it was like he put

1567
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 1: this pressure on me because he said, Yo, you're ready

1568
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 1: for the Gold Party. Why am I trying to sound

1569
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 1: like you know this is a special party. He say,

1570
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 1: no regular party, no regular part. What quest Love did

1571
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 1: was masterful. Yeah, sure you sure you can handle this?

1572
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 1: Was like, man, I can such an yo. Leny was like, Yo, Jay,

1573
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: what you're doing bro? He was like, nah, I gotta

1574
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 1: know you like this. No, this is the Gold Party. Yo.

1575
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 1: What he said was right, it is the Gold Party.

1576
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: Now I'm nervous and I'm like, so I called quest

1577
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 1: Love because JA said Questlove played the best set that

1578
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 1: I've ever heard ever. So now I called a mirror

1579
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 1: up and I'm like, yo, Jay said you played the

1580
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 1: best set he ever heard. I probably shouldn't say it's

1581
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 1: said anyway. Mirror was like, you want to hear a set?

1582
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: I recorded it. I was like, wait what. Then I

1583
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 1: listened to it and it was probably one of the

1584
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,759
Speaker 1: most perfect sets that I've ever heard because he didn't

1585
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 1: stay with one thing. But I was like, it's the

1586
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 1: fucking way already. DJ. I was like, oh, man, this

1587
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 1: dude putting all this pressure on me. This is what

1588
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 1: I do. Man. I played the Gold Party last year

1589
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,599
Speaker 1: like after that, after hearing a mirror set, I was like, nah,

1590
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to do me and it was me and

1591
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:58,600
Speaker 1: Clark and I played my set. Yo. Clark tapped me

1592
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 1: on it. He was like yo. He was like, bro.

1593
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: Actually he didn't say that he did. Yeah. He was

1594
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 1: like because it was it was the zone, you know

1595
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 1: what I mean. To find that zone and to be comfortable.

1596
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 1: It's like as a DJ, you know when you play

1597
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 1: a song where you could feel that everyone loves it,

1598
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: when all you can do is just smile because you

1599
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 1: can do no wrong. At this point. It's like the

1600
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: people are once they believe in you. First of all,

1601
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,719
Speaker 1: when you walk into the door, if you're fantastic DJ,

1602
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,839
Speaker 1: the fact that you walked into that door, that changes

1603
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,640
Speaker 1: everything because part of that set is them seeing you

1604
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: like yo, yo, stretch armstrong and see it. Oh it's

1605
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 1: about to be some. So part of the work is

1606
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 1: done by you just showing up. Part of the work

1607
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 1: was done when I walked into the Gold party. They're like,

1608
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 1: oh Yeao, you rock. Yeah. Oh then it's different. Then

1609
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 1: you get to play and to be in that zone. Man.

1610
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 1: And I'm forever grateful that jay can put that kind

1611
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 1: of pressure and make you want to be great. But

1612
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm also grateful that that A mirror was like, yo,

1613
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 1: you want to hear it? Yeah, that's fine, And I

1614
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this is crazy, So I'm going to

1615
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 1: break an NDA with this entire thing.

1616
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 3: I think jay Z put that pressure on you because

1617
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:18,600
Speaker 3: jay Z secretly wants to be a DJ. Probably we

1618
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 3: we I mean I don't DJ, but our Polozer crew

1619
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 3: J and B booked us twice to do parties for them,

1620
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 3: like private shit of the Polluza crew.

1621
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 1: Yes.

1622
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 3: The entire time, jay Z was hovering over the DJ

1623
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 3: booth on us, making everything like yo, do you just

1624
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 3: want to get on the wheels of steel here?

1625
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 1: Bro? J wants to be a DJ. He was like, yo,

1626
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 1: you should blend this with this.

1627
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, yeah, he got it, producer, actually see that.

1628
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: No, I loved it.

1629
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 3: It was very interesting to see him in a vulnerable

1630
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 3: place of just being a music lover, Like I think

1631
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 3: jay Z wants to be a DJ.

1632
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, because even like during that set, you know, because

1633
01:25:56,439 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: I had an ND for that too. But Yo, during

1634
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: that set, like I was, whats ken your cousin name?

1635
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: Keen Keen? I never even heard that record? You know

1636
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like you talking Quarantine? Be nice? Yeah,

1637
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: I'm playing all the classics like new Records. Was like,

1638
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 1: that wasn't my new record zone, you know what I'm saying.

1639
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 1: Like that time, I didn't even know anything about it.

1640
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 1: He's like, Yo, you gotta rock that. Yeah, Yo. Joint

1641
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 1: went off and I was like, so, I think he

1642
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 1: probably secretly does one.

1643
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 3: The amount of requests he made in the two parties

1644
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 3: that we did for him in real time.

1645
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 1: Also, Computers is jay Z's favorite song. I want to

1646
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 1: let He made us play Computers three times in a row. Yeah,

1647
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 1: get the party Rocket. This is fun.

1648
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,640
Speaker 2: This has been, This has been, This has been, this

1649
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 2: conversation has been great for me, man, This is a

1650
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 2: This is like a dream come true for me. Man,

1651
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 2: just growing up watching you, uh, you know, following your

1652
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 2: career and everything that you've done in the culture hip hop.

1653
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 1: Uh.

1654
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 2: We just thank you for coming by today and kicking

1655
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 2: with us, man like this is this is like I'm

1656
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 2: all over the place right now. The stories and just

1657
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,480
Speaker 2: the knowledge and everything that you've given us. We appreciate

1658
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 2: it and thank you for Club Quarantine.

1659
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 1: This is the Fibby Anniversary.

1660
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 2: You're rocking Apollo this week and then where you are

1661
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 2: I've seen you somewhere else next week.

1662
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 1: I believe. Oh that I just I promoted I supposed to. No,

1663
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm doing Club Quarantine in Baltimore, Baltimore during

1664
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: the Preakness. Okay, yeah, that's actually a big one too, man. Yeah,

1665
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Do you have this? Do you have Baltimore

1666
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 1: club music? Yeah, but I want to have a little bit

1667
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 1: of that. I could give you a photo if you

1668
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: need one. I'll call Jay Z.

1669
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 3: Got a folder for I can send you the way

1670
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 3: file and swing that ship if you need as long.

1671
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 1: As I can take and I can rob that song

1672
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 1: with the orchestra because I'm using the orchestra with that.

1673
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 1: Took the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra with love that. But yeah, man,

1674
01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 1: like I'm excited about it even with that. You know,

1675
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 1: you know, I got the call from the first Lady

1676
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 1: of Maryland. It's like hey, you know, like literally her

1677
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 1: calling me like, hey, I think club quarantines think you five?

1678
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 1: She even call it club quarantine. I know she really

1679
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 1: followed you five. We want to do seek you five

1680
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 1: doing the practice. I was like, oh, well, let's do it.

1681
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, but I do want to say thank you.

1682
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 1: I'll be one hundred honest. I was like when I

1683
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: got the call, I was like, I know who you

1684
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 1: guys are and I'm following. I'm like, man, they're not

1685
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 1: gonna find my story interesting, you know what I mean? Like,

1686
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 1: this is probably gonna be what are you heard me? Ask?

1687
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 1: I was like, how long? One of your producers, I'm like,

1688
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: how long is this? What? When we got the obstra

1689
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 1: for the date, it's quick? They said, d nice. I

1690
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 1: was like they were like you cool, was like, what

1691
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:44,560
Speaker 1: why would you ask me?

1692
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1693
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: That's that's this is Yeah, this is a dream for me.

1694
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 2: Man, Like I said, I you know you you are

1695
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 2: definitely one of the reasons I fell in love with

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01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:52,799
Speaker 2: hip podcast.

1697
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 1: So thank you for coming by kicking with us today. Yeah,

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01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: and first time meeting you.

1699
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 3: I also understand why Club Quarantine worked outside of.

1700
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 1: Your DJ skills, you have great energy like one.

1701
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 3: I think that that probably somehow was involved.

1702
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 1: In one million moment. I agree with you, it was.

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01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 3: It was not just the blends like yeah, it was

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01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 3: the Nice. I also get it now, Yeah, this is

1705
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 3: a good person.

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01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 2: That was D Nice, the legendary D Nice. Hopefully you'll

1707
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 2: enjoyed that as much as I did. If not, I

1708
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck because this is just personal for me.

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01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 3: This was he didn't have to leave. We could have

1710
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 3: won another three. This is this is personal. Great D.

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01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 1: Nice. We thank you, and we salute you, and we

1712
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 1: support you forever. Brother. Oh love, great lighting gear, got

1713
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:36,759
Speaker 1: that peach.

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01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 2: The Nice took my foot Y'all niggas can't tell me

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01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 2: nothing