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Speaker 3: Uh So we'll get to a big The biggest question

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Speaker 1: Which player actually likes where he was drafted? Eight seven seven.

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Speaker 3: Besides Cooper Flag, how many people like where they were drafted?

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Speaker 1: Well, we also had the phenomenon that only two teams

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Speaker 3: Phenomenon. It's phenomena phenomenon. Uh yeah, once you get outside

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Speaker 3: the tenth.

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Speaker 1: Pick, everything was it's players and trades where you can't

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Speaker 1: even keep it, you can't keep it strong. How many

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Speaker 1: times this trade hands before this guy actually got picked? Here?

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Speaker 3: I guarantee you if I was producing the draft, producing

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Speaker 3: the NBA draft, I could send notes onto the to

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Speaker 3: the set, to the talent, and I could just make

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Speaker 3: Hey that this pick was traded to the nick and

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Speaker 3: in and in return they got back Dwight Shreut. Okay, hey,

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Speaker 3: Dwight true, Hey you know what hey be for Krutan?

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it's a big move right there, big move,

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Speaker 3: jig move getting Dwight Tree. He was a pretty good

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Speaker 1: He's uh, he's he's he has to leave Mose behind

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Speaker 1: but you know he's gonna legend. Uh, but tonight really

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Speaker 1: is is gonna be known for the draft where even

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Speaker 1: the most staunchest of NBA insiders are gonna be shocked

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be stunning. It's gonna be' stunning, right, Okay,

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Speaker 3: you know Cooper flag number one, sure, okay, and then

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Speaker 3: you got Dylan Harper number two. Okay, we'll get to

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Speaker 3: the Ace Bailey thing at five in a few minutes.

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Speaker 3: But okay, I got.

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Speaker 1: Rich Paul got his dude drafted in in the middle

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Speaker 3: Come on, yeah, maybe think that he could have had

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Speaker 3: Brownie James drafted earlier than last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't work hard.

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, man, you got that have you

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Speaker 3: Browny go like, you know, like right after Steph Castle and.

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Speaker 4: The Portland Trailblazers select Centric Coward from Washington State University.

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Speaker 4: So the Portland Trailblazers select Colin Coward.

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Speaker 1: Here Ah Colin Coward gets selected by the Blazers, and

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Speaker 1: you know what happened. Then he traded me to Memphis.

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Speaker 2: Go.

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Speaker 1: I started out Portland, didn't want to go there, Oregon,

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Speaker 1: to Memphis. Great barbecue, Memphis, showboats, Reggie White. Now go

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Speaker 1: to Memphis. Well, you go straight from trailblazing to walking

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Speaker 1: in Memphis. I can do the show in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Playing a game at night. Is that bad way to

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Speaker 1: be Yep? I didn't work out for anybody. Me and

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Speaker 1: NAIs Bailey still drafted both of us. I mean, conceptually,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be. So it's gonna be five things

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Speaker 3: Season four didn't today?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, munch came out. You think something that happens in

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Speaker 1: a great sign, Not a great sign. Hey, season three

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Speaker 1: I got to say, not not terribly excited by the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so guys, I've investigated this. Yeah, Andrew's Colin Coward.

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Speaker 2: Then okay, sure she's a free agent. She did this

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Speaker 1: She did it purposely, okay, because she wants to join

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Speaker 2: No, I have no idea why. Okay, but she's trending.

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Speaker 2: It was done purposely.

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Speaker 1: Good Colin Coward does get her some juice, no question

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Speaker 1: and Windy we're expected free agents, which is why Shams

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Speaker 1: those forced If you watch it really, it really looks. Wow,

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Speaker 1: you're not getting too conspiracy theory. Honest with that? You think, really, okay,

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Speaker 1: I would never come on there tomorrow morning. I planted

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Speaker 1: it and look at it. Oh, he's gonna do the

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Speaker 1: show in a Blazers jersey. No, he's now, he's in Memphis.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, we drafted a television personality, I mean a

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Speaker 1: What he does. He was always drafted by the Portland

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Speaker 1: going back there, No, no, no, went Portland, Connecticut, Los Angeles, Chicago.

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Speaker 1: It's me. Can we get him in an original Grizzlies

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Speaker 1: I know, let's hear it again. Let's hear it again.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's I'm gonna listen to it like Frostburg, listen

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Speaker 3: to think that maybe this was Don Wadris.

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Speaker 2: Before you play it, you gotta watch the video too,

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Speaker 2: because you have to see your face.

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Speaker 1: But you can hear it here. Okay, all right, God, look, the.

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Speaker 4: Portland Trailblazer select Centric Coward from Watchington State University. So

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Speaker 4: the Portland Trailblazers select Colin Coward.

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Speaker 2: She even thinks about it for a sex should I

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Speaker 1: And she does? Ah, it's a casual dress. NBA draft.

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Speaker 1: Once upon a time, there was this this thing we're watching,

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Speaker 1: Congratulations Colin. I mean that is awesome. I mean yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the best advertising you never had to pay for. There.

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Speaker 3: At ESPN they saw that one oh Man man Now

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Speaker 3: now because the biggest thing we talked about this last hour,

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Speaker 3: Okay, we don't want the broadcast to make headlines. Want

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Speaker 1: Is going on? Man? Like this is worse than Stephen A.

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Speaker 3: here's Malik andersaoning Colin Coward gets drafted when you know,

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Speaker 3: I guess it's just a slip of the tongue.

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Speaker 1: It's just something that said. But it's not something you

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Speaker 3: So I got a big question about the NBA Draft,

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Ed Davis has such a great NBA

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Speaker 1: you know the tax cuts are only for the rich.

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Speaker 1: You know, hey, these two guys did really well. Nobody

432
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Speaker 1: else did well, but these two guys did. You don't

433
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Speaker 1: want to go politics. There's a lot of crazy stuff

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Speaker 1: going on from coast to coasts. I think that was

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Speaker 1: my favorite head rated top fives from.

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Speaker 3: The Onion earlier today was like, I think Wes Anderson

437
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Speaker 3: has a new movie coming out or it's at some point,

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Speaker 3: And the Onion headline was you sure you're ready for

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Speaker 3: a new Wes Anderson movie with all the crazy stuff

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Speaker 3: that's going on.

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Speaker 1: The Phoenician Experiment was very good. No, that's the Mark

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Speaker 1: Williams story. The Phoenician Experiment getting the trade to Phoenix?

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Speaker 1: Is he gonna pass the physical? Didn't there well that Troy?

444
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Speaker 1: Are they gonna get enough backlash that they need do

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Speaker 1: fail him on the physical like the Lakers did? Hello

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Speaker 1: Phoenix suns Ah, this is rob Ron polunka h. Might

447
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Speaker 1: want to check that physical before you make that trade

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Speaker 1: for Mark Williams. Who is this Rob polega Ho. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: gotta go by. Our fans didn't really like us getting

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Speaker 1: rid of adult it don't get act. This did not

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Speaker 1: test well. I got him it Williams.

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Speaker 3: Williams got traded tonight to the to the Suns, and

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Speaker 3: it was a It was surprised me because I honestly

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Speaker 3: thought they would get back to this trade in the offseason.

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Speaker 3: They would they would have this trade go back again.

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Speaker 3: They do the connect for Williams trade. Maybe you have

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Speaker 3: to make things move a little differently to put a

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Speaker 3: couple other sweeteners in there. But I really thought, Okay,

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Speaker 3: the Lakers need this. You need an athletic rim runner

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Speaker 3: for Luca, right, they know you have to go get

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Speaker 3: that guy. Okay, great. I really thought they would look

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Speaker 3: back at that trade after Williams played most of the

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Speaker 3: back half of the season and say, okay, well we'll

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Speaker 3: do this deal now. Sorry it went through whatever cold feet,

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Speaker 3: whatever you want to say. I really thought that deal

466
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Speaker 3: would get done again, and now it's not because now

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Speaker 3: he's going to Phoenix.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of the Jason Smith

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Speaker 1: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 1: pm Pacific. No, that's it, and they drafted Malo Watch

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Speaker 1: as well, So let's look for that next iteration of

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Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns. But like we talked with Rick Buker earlier,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't believe any of that's, you know, a done

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Speaker 1: deal in the post Kevin Durant trade, that a bunch

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Speaker 1: of those guys may still get shipped out of town

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Speaker 1: before it's done. Exit out bout a Fresca exit swelling Dome.

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Speaker 1: Jason Smith Mike Harmon, Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Now,

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Speaker 1: the Ace Bailey story.

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Speaker 3: Is something that this was a huge deal. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if people realized how big a deal this was

481
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Speaker 3: coming in tonight. Right, Ace Bailey, you've heard about him

482
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Speaker 3: in the last few days. Big obviously, big player, Rutgers

483
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Speaker 3: fifteen wins, and he didn't work out for anybody, most

484
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Speaker 3: famously didn't want to work out for the seventy six

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Speaker 3: ers who held the number three overall pick. And look

486
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Speaker 3: for months it's been hey, pretty sure the draft is

487
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Speaker 3: gonna go Cooper Flag number one, Dylan Harper number two,

488
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Speaker 3: and then as Bailey number three, but he wouldn't work

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Speaker 3: out for anybody. He wanted to take the power of

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Speaker 3: the draft and own it, which I get. I completely

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Speaker 3: understand that, right. He didn't want to start his career

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Speaker 3: somewhere where I really don't want to go play, So

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Speaker 3: by not working out for teams, he wanted to scare

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Speaker 3: the teams away that he didn't want to take them,

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure through back channels he kind of let

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Speaker 3: teams know where he wanted to go. We had heard

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Speaker 3: that Washington might have been a preferred destin Ah. Shrim

498
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Speaker 3: didn't talk to Utah, didn't go there. He even said

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Speaker 3: at the end when he got drafted by the Jazz

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Speaker 3: at five, I don't know why they picked me up.

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Speaker 3: I was surprised they picked me. Well, someone's gonna pick you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can't be that surprised someone's gonna pick

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Speaker 3: you because you're a great player. But he tried to

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Speaker 3: control the narrative of I want to control where I go,

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Speaker 3: and if I don't work out for you, or if

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Speaker 3: you don't hear from me, don't draft me, because I

507
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Speaker 3: want to go someplace where I know I can go play.

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Speaker 3: And this is such a big story because if he

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Speaker 3: got to a place he wanted to go. Let's just

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Speaker 3: say he's able to get to Washington, right, all of

511
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Speaker 3: a sudden, how many players in college basketball, the big

512
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Speaker 3: ones are gonna get draft. They're going to say, well,

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Speaker 3: you know what, that's a big power play, and he

514
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Speaker 3: was able to win that. He was able because I

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Speaker 3: have money, So it doesn't matter if I get less

516
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Speaker 3: money if I fall through the draft a bit because

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Speaker 3: I get to my preferred destination because I've made pretty

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Speaker 3: good nil money and I've made a million dollars the

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Speaker 3: last year or two in college, so I have a

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Speaker 3: little bit of cachet. Or I could say, you know what,

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Speaker 3: blank that I don't want to go here. I don't

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Speaker 3: want to go to the Sixers. I want to get

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Speaker 3: to Washington, and I'm not going to drop precipitously. So

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Speaker 3: with the slotting system, I'm not losing a ton.

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Speaker 1: But if I miss it, but even if I do,

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with it because I get to a place

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Speaker 1: I want to be because I have money.

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Speaker 3: I don't have to worry about money because I haven't.

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Speaker 3: So this is where the nil A helps empower those players.

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Speaker 3: If he was able to get there. How many players

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Speaker 3: would say, oh that I'm doing that. I don't want

532
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Speaker 3: to go play in Sacramento, New Orleans, the Knicks, wherever

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Speaker 3: it is, I don't want to play there. And in

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Speaker 3: five years, the NBA draft would be completely in need

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Speaker 3: of change because with so many players doing this, with

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Speaker 3: the power to do this.

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Speaker 1: Now, don't take me. I'm not going to draft there.

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Speaker 1: The NBA would be stuck. Right, But what happened? He

539
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Speaker 1: goes to the Jazz, which allegedly was a team he

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Speaker 1: didn't want to go to. Maybe now he's happier to

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Speaker 1: be there, But this is a team, he says, I

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Speaker 1: don't know why they picked me. This is the Jazz

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Speaker 1: and the NBA saying, you are not going to tell

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Speaker 1: us where you go in the draft. This is how

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Speaker 1: the draft works. It's the best thing we have. If

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Speaker 1: you think we can find something better, I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: we can't because we would have found something better. Right.

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Speaker 1: I get the draft is not perfect and there's certain

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Speaker 1: foibles you can find in certain warts with the NBA draft. Hey,

550
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Speaker 1: players have to start where they might not want to start.

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Speaker 1: I understand that, but we have the draft this way

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Speaker 1: in the NBA. In the NFL because it's the best

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Speaker 1: thing we have. It's the fairest thing we have to

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Speaker 1: get players to professional sports. It's not a right to

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Speaker 1: play professional sports. It's a privilege to get drafted. And

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Speaker 1: yeah it's not perfect, but there's no better system. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is kind of what we have to go along

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Speaker 1: with because this is the best thing we have found

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Speaker 1: to get players to professional sports where they can go

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Speaker 1: make a living, make a lot of money, be stars

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Speaker 1: and everything you want and realize your dreams. Right, this

562
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Speaker 1: is the best thing we have. And this was the

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Speaker 1: NBA and the Jazz saying yeah, we're gonna take you.

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Speaker 1: And maybe he winds up playing for the Jazz, maybe

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Speaker 1: he gets traded, whatever it's going to be. But this

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Speaker 1: was the NBA saying, no one's coming into the league,

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Speaker 1: letting us know and dictating where they get drafted. This

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Speaker 1: was a huge win for the NBA. This storyline coming

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Speaker 1: into tonight was massive and depending on which way it went,

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Speaker 1: it would have been great for the players and all

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Speaker 1: for the league, or great for the league and all

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Speaker 1: for the players.

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Speaker 3: Because now anybody in college that was thinking about doing

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Speaker 3: and saying, oh man, he wanted to getting drafted by

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Speaker 3: a team that didn't even call him.

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Speaker 1: He didn't even talk to He doesn't know why. I

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Speaker 1: don't want that to happen to me. Okay, I'll go

578
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Speaker 1: through the draft process, I'll talk to teams, I'll interview you,

579
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Speaker 1: I'll do all the stuff I need to because you know,

580
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Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen, and I'm scared that

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be my reality if I try to take

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Speaker 1: the bull by the horns and say no, I'm going

583
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Speaker 1: to tell you where I want to go. So this

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Speaker 1: is a huge victory for the NBA. I mean, go

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Speaker 1: back to the pre draft reports a year ago in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. I mean as talked about on our colleague

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Speaker 1: and current Memphis Grizzly guard Colin Coward show about Tayleb

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Speaker 1: Williams and what he may or may not have wanted

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Speaker 1: to do ahead of the NFL Draft and eventually tamp down. Hey,

590
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Speaker 1: he met with the Bears front office, he visited Chicago,

591
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Speaker 1: and now that guy is everywhere right, He's embraced Chicago

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Speaker 1: in a whole other way. It takes time for He's

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Speaker 1: Bailey in this process for the Jazz. If it doesn't

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Speaker 1: work and Tim teams start calling. Guess what you might

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Speaker 1: You might still end up with a huge win here. Right,

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Speaker 1: You either get the player and the evaluations are great.

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Speaker 1: You watched what he did at Rutgers wins and losses,

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Speaker 1: notwithstanding that he could become a multi time All Star

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Speaker 1: with the skill set that he had. But if not,

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Speaker 1: then you look and you flip it. Hopefully it's not

601
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Speaker 1: too much of a distress property situation where you have

602
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Speaker 1: to take dimes on the dollar and you move on.

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Speaker 1: I did like the reaction to Jazz Co owner Dwayne Wade,

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Speaker 1: you know, did one of those memes which just says,

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Speaker 1: I love it. And then while when you can get

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Speaker 1: a player's talented his ace with the fifth pick, you

607
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Speaker 1: don't overthink it, you just do it. Good job Utah Jazz, so,

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Speaker 1: you know, endorsing it, and I have no doubt he

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Speaker 1: was on the phone as quickly as he could possibly

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Speaker 1: get in as Bailey's ear to talk about the opportunities

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Speaker 1: that now present themselves to become the face of a Franchi.

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Speaker 1: Because we've heard a lot pretty much anybody on that

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Speaker 1: roster was was gettable, right, Kessler among them in potential

614
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Speaker 1: movement this offseason, maybe Bailey's the guy that becomes the centerpiece,

615
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Speaker 1: and you're moving pieces around to to pair and compliment him.

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Speaker 1: But for the NBAS, oh yeah, the ability to tamp

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Speaker 1: down and say, hey, this is still the best system.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how it plays going forward, but for now,

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Speaker 1: in lieu of something a huge alternative or a full

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Speaker 1: on player revolt. With seventy six billion dollars coming in

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Speaker 1: off TV revenue over the next eleven years, which they

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Speaker 1: get fifty percent of, I don't think you're going to

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Speaker 1: have the anxiousness and angst from the player's association to

624
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Speaker 1: subtenly say hey, let's blow this all up. That's a

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Speaker 1: lot of money that they get to share, and we're

626
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Speaker 1: talking about one hundred million dollar contracts per annum before

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Speaker 1: long