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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunts Rutt Fresh Radio, bringing you

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Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White Tailed Woods and now

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Speaker 1: your hosts, Casey Smith Tyler Jones. This is rut Fresh Radio,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Vortex Optics, and today we're talking

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Speaker 1: about paying it forward, so you have big payoff with

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Speaker 1: big bucks later in the season. Guys, there's been some

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Speaker 1: hunting getting done man here at the Element crew, at

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Speaker 1: the Wired to Hunt crew, there's been hunting going across

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Speaker 1: the country. We've talked a lot about it. Our good

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Speaker 1: friend Mark Kenyon is joining us this week. Mark, how

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Speaker 1: are you feeling, man? Hey, Casey, I am, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I just uh. I just got home a few days

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Speaker 1: ago from my first wait til hunt of the year,

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Speaker 1: which is, you know, great to kind of kick off

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Speaker 1: the rust to get that in the books. And then

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Speaker 1: my next hunt the year kicks off in Michigan in

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Speaker 1: just a few days on October one, so it's like Christmas,

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Speaker 1: the best time of years here, buddy, how's all Rookie

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Speaker 1: Rookie is dead? No? Is he really? I didn't know that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: at least I'm I'm nine sure. He disappeared at the

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Speaker 1: end of October last year and I have not seen

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Speaker 1: hide or hair of Rookie, so he's not on the radar.

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Speaker 1: And how does it make you feel? Are you excited

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Speaker 1: of miss having that talking about? You know, what's been

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Speaker 1: what's been nice about that area where Rookie was living

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Speaker 1: is you know, I've been hunting that area for I

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Speaker 1: don't know, twelve years now or something, and there's been

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Speaker 1: like a dramatic improvement in the number of bucks that

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Speaker 1: make it to older age classes. So, you know, when

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Speaker 1: I first started hunting there, like there would be one

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Speaker 1: three year old and that would be the only buck,

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Speaker 1: Like that would be the best buck in the whole area,

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Speaker 1: you know, like in the sixty acre block that I

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Speaker 1: one deer we're seeing. And in the years since then,

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Speaker 1: I've worked with some neighbors, I've passed a ton of deer.

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Speaker 1: I've been working on trying to prove some things. I've

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Speaker 1: along started short more and more folks are kind of

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Speaker 1: that you know, now ten eleven twelve thirteen years later,

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Speaker 1: this year, I've got like multiple four year olds and

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Speaker 1: if one of them gets whacked, I'm not too bummed

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Speaker 1: out because there's several other deer that you know, I

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Speaker 1: this year, I've got one buck that's a five year

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Speaker 1: old that I I'm really interested in, and then and

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Speaker 1: I've seen a ton, and then another four year old

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Speaker 1: that I saw a ton and passed a bunch, So

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Speaker 1: those are my top two. And then there's another four

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Speaker 1: year old that I saw some last year that I

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Speaker 1: that I'm like on the fence about. So that's awesome,

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Speaker 1: you know, for Michigan to have a bunch of deer

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Speaker 1: on the buffet. Well, you better not podcast about this

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Speaker 1: it's uh, it's it's all relative, right, yea, absolutely, it's

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Speaker 1: It's it's cool and uh, well, you're doing the opposite

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Speaker 1: around in public actually, been just chasing the yellow line

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Speaker 1: more for you just food pop production. I would think,

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Speaker 1: I mean this morning, and uh, definitely making some patterns

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Speaker 1: not celebrate those small victories, And like the thing that

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Speaker 1: and sure enough, you know, public land bucked down, So

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Speaker 1: this guy. Uh, Tony, you've had success in Wisconsin recently. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well so you got you were fine Mosquitoes. Was is

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Speaker 1: think that a lot of people in their head they

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00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 1: think it's just not it's not going to get there yet.

429
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: But you know that in that situation where we're hunt

430
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: over in Wisconsin, when when those really localized food sources

431
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: dry up, they kind of gotta work. There's a lot

432
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 1: of browsing going on in a lot of big wood stuff,

433
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: so they cover ground. And you know how it is

434
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: when when bucks start covering ground, they start leaving you

435
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: some sign to work with. And I actually I think

436
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 1: it gets almost a little bit easier right at the

437
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: beginning of October and to September to to figure out

438
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: what they're doing right now. Yeah, man, well that's really cool.

439
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 1: That's exciting, such an exciting time of year for all

440
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: of us. Anyways, and then guy like telling me starts

441
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 1: throwing out some big numbers as far as like a

442
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 1: hot fist. Man, it's a that time to roll, you

443
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Listen, here's the deal, guys. And

444
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: you know this, even if I said I think it's

445
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: gonna be a one, you still should go hunting. Yeah, buddy,

446
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: you know, I mean honestly that if you would have

447
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: asked me on Friday night before the open or what

448
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: the deer movement's gonna be like and what the buck

449
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: movement's gonna be like, I would have maybe set a

450
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,479
Speaker 1: one or two just to give it a little bit

451
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: of grace for the opening weekend. You know, they haven't

452
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: been hunted yet, but it would have been a low number,

453
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: and it's still worth going. Yeah. Absolutely, they have to

454
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: exist somewhere, man, And I think a lot of guys

455
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 1: forget that and they try to time it out right.

456
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: And for sure, you have to balance your time off

457
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: versus you know, time with family and then time in

458
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: the woods. So put all those numbers together and you

459
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 1: can come up with a real good reason to not

460
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: go to the woods. But I'll tell you what, man,

461
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: there's never a better time than now to go ahead

462
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: and capitalize. So Tony, we appreciate the update, dude, and

463
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: I hope you have a great risk the season. Awesome,

464
00:23:55,359 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: thank you fellas. Okay on the phone now, Gonzales, you're

465
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: actually from Texas. You're a friend of ours, local to us,

466
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: but you have been up in Arkansas doing some deer hunting.

467
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: How's everything going right now? Man? Um on Cloud nine

468
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: right now? Successful weekend hunt. So that's awesome, dude. So um,

469
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: you're just kind of breaking down what you what you

470
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: got going on from from that hunt basically right, and

471
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: you've got some meat and you've got a bunch of

472
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: trash everywhere. It sounds like, yeah, like I was saying earlier,

473
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's crazy how much trash you can accumulate

474
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: in the truck in just two days of hunting and

475
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: camping with one yea, So you have you have done

476
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: what seems about near impossible to me at this point,

477
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: but you've shot a public land buck in Arkansas and

478
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: it's a toad in Sceptember, incept. How do you do that? Man? Well? Uh,

479
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: we actually my buddy and I went up there um

480
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: in January, did some scouting, We did a little bit

481
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: of hunting to have a late season there. Um, actually

482
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: came and talked to you guys and looked at the

483
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: on X maps and just kind of pick out some locations.

484
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 1: So um, obviously with on X you can see you know,

485
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: the topography and everything else, but it's good to just

486
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: get boots on the ground out there. So that's what

487
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: we did. We went out there and did scouting. UM.

488
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: Like the location that we were at, I didn't see

489
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: a whole lot, just late season and everything. UM, but

490
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: I saw that they had a September opener there in

491
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: in Arkansas, so I wanted to give it a shot. UM.

492
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: I did not expect to get a buck, I can

493
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: tell you that much, but anything would have been great

494
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: for me, um, just to get a September deer. So

495
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: definitely definitely started with on X and then just getting

496
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: some boots on the ground. So yeah, that's cool man.

497
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: So when you went up there in September this time,

498
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: we got boots on the ground. Uh in that you know,

499
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: early season stuff. What did you see it made you

500
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: decide to hunt where you did? Um? So I found

501
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: a pretty clean looking creek. It was close to private

502
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: UM and they had a feeder set up over there.

503
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: I don't know that it was being used or not,

504
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: but it was just a really good water source for

505
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: the deer there. Um. It's kind of a a good

506
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 1: little funnel point just because it was real tall pasture

507
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: on one side, uh, and then some good um oak

508
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: flats in the bottom. But this particular area was real green,

509
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: had some good grass, and then it had a pretty

510
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: hard edge of trees beside it where you could tell

511
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: that that was probably where they were betting. So they're

512
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: definitely cruising through this little um funnel area by the creek,

513
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: you know, to get some get some food. Um. And

514
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: so that was kind of the game plan was you know,

515
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: hopefully they would come out of their beds to come

516
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: get some food, and ultimately that's what what happened. Did

517
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: you feel like that deer eating acrons while you were there?

518
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: The guy, the buck that I shot was eating acorns

519
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: as the shot him. Were they just would you could

520
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: you tell what kind of oaks they were? I'm not

521
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: a I'm not a tree guy like you guys. I

522
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: really don't know what kind of oak it was. As

523
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: long as there's a tasty acren on the ground, I said,

524
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: I it's a good place set up. Yeah. Now you

525
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: know too that they liked them. Acron's right there, and

526
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: it's a good spot to till it. Man, that's cool.

527
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: So was he was? He was? He? He was basically

528
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 1: just cruising to eat. He wasn't when you say cruising,

529
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: he wasn't like rut cruising by any means. Or was he? No,

530
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: he was not. He came in with another buck. Um.

531
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: He came in with a probably a little three point

532
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: who I saw first. You don't want I mean, if

533
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: he was, if he was so low, I would have

534
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: shot him just because he was the only one I

535
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: saw it first. But then I saw the antlers on

536
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: the other one turn. I said, I'm not worried about that.

537
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: How fast was your heartbeating? Man? It was? It was.

538
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: It was pounding pretty good, I can say that much.

539
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: That's your first buck with a bow. That's my first

540
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: buck with a bow. Yeah, yeah, it's Uh. I had

541
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: hadn't done a ton of archery hunting really mostly recently.

542
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: Is when I've when I've done archery hunting. Um, first time,

543
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: I gotta congrats on that dude. So awesome. How far

544
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: was the shot? Uh? He was about twenty five, So

545
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 1: he came in. He came in pretty close Yeah, I

546
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: was up in the Yeah, I was up in that

547
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: cruiser saddle. And I gotta say, if anybody does any

548
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: public land hunting, that is absolutely the way to go,

549
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: just to just saddle hunting in general. M because he

550
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 1: came in at a good angle and you can just

551
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 1: you can move all around that tree without making any noise.

552
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: Neither one of them had any idea that I was there. Um,

553
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: so it worked out perfectly. Man. That's that's too cool.

554
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: So that's awesome story, dude, And I'm super pumped for you. Uh,

555
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: just you know, knowing you as a as a friend

556
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: and knowing kind of your journey as a hunter, that's

557
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: just so cool to see you go up there and

558
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: do that. If other guys kind of like you trying

559
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: to go up there be weekend warriors. Right now, we

560
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: have a you know, kind of a cool front through

561
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: the country, a little bit of weather in the Gulf. Um.

562
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: But looking forward to the weekend here, what do you

563
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: predict dear movement being like specifically buck movement on a

564
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: scale of one to ten kind of for this upcoming

565
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: week Um, it's kind of hard to say, just um,

566
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, we're still early season, but with this with

567
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: this cool front coming in, I think it's upper forties

568
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: possibly going to be over there. It could be. I mean,

569
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna be hunting, and it would be I

570
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: would definitely recommend getting out there. Probably maybe around seven

571
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: seven or so. Oh that's pretty good. Sevens. That gets

572
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: me pump. It's biblical number. Yeah. So do you think

573
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: that acorns or acorns however people want to say it is,

574
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: is kind of the key right now as far as uh,

575
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: you know, bed defeed goes. It seems like, I mean,

576
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: they're they're just now really starting to produce. Um, we

577
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: saw quite a bit on the ground just in different

578
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: various spots, and uh, that's definitely what what this guy

579
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: with both of these deer we're targeting. So uh yeah,

580
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: I would I would hone in on the akrons for sure.

581
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: Well that's awesome, dude. I'm if I don't kill tonight,

582
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honing in on some acrons too. So uh,

583
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate you hopping on dude, Appreciate your friendship and

584
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: and I'm really uh just proud of your accomplishment. Accomplishment, man,

585
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: it's a it's an awesome thing. I know, it's a

586
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: great feeling. I've felt it before and it's uh it's

587
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: hard to beat. So congrats on everything, man, way to go, Nick,

588
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: appreciate it all. Right. Now we've got Jesse Richard from

589
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: Outdoor X Media. Jesse, how are you doing this morning? Man? Oh,

590
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: not too bad. It's uh good temperature for this time

591
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: of year. I'm okay with it. Yeah, it's different down

592
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: here in Texas. For some reason, everybody in the world

593
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: is getting cold fronts and Texas is it in here

594
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: ninety something degrees every day, so we're we're burning up.

595
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: But uh, it's good that you guys are getting some weather.

596
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's helping the deer movement. Um, now you're

597
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: trying to stay in white tail shape right now? Right?

598
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: This isn't mountain shape or elk shape or anything, is it. Yeah? No,

599
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: this is uh it's It's also college football season, so

600
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: if you have to kinda you know, you go to

601
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: the gym a couple of days of the week so

602
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: you can tailgate and have a few and eat some

603
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: horrible food during the weekend. So it's a never ending battle.

604
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: So are you a cyclone guy or a Hawkeye guy.

605
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: I'm a hawkye guy. Uh hasn't been too awesome this year,

606
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, you gotta stay loyal little it'll

607
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: turn back around, That's right. I really like you guys logo. Man,

608
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: you'll have a cool logo. Um yeah, I would totally

609
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: wear a shape like what's that the tiger hawk? Yeah yeah, dude,

610
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: so cool. But so we're with the weather with football season.

611
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: One of the things that makes Hall just the best

612
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: time of year is that also you start getting cold fronts,

613
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: things start changing and the deer start moving. And you

614
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: actually experienced this recently. You guys have been out I

615
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: think quite a bit lately, um hunting and your daughter

616
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: shot a really nice what is an eight point? It's

617
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: it's a it's a ten pointer. He's got short short

618
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: G four's um. But yeah, are full season. Our archery

619
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: season opens up October one, but youth season has been

620
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: open for oh about a week now. So and for

621
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: those who are listening, this is Iowa. This is like,

622
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: this is where people dream of going. You guys lived there. Um,

623
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: so I've been kind of falling what you've been doing.

624
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: And you've you've been posting some trail camera pictures and

625
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Now lately have you is there a

626
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: reason that you feel like you guys were successful. Was

627
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: there a was there a weather pattern or a moon

628
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: phase or anything that helped you out there too, uh

629
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: find success or you know, was it something in the

630
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: trail cameras that you're able to see that led you to,

631
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, kind of find out this is a pattern

632
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: we should key in on. Yeah. This, So this particular

633
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: farm is owned by one of my buddies. It's a

634
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: it's a forty acre chunk. It's mostly agged but has

635
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: one pretty decent draw and we have standing beans and

636
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: I put in probably a three quarter acre Braska plot

637
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: and this farm actually got rained. We've been in a

638
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: horrible drought up here. One of my other farms that's

639
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: less than five miles away until recently had had two

640
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: inches of rain in three months, so trying to get

641
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: food plots to grow, we're horrible. But this particular farm

642
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: just caught all the little ones that the other one missed.

643
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: So the food on it's been really good. Uh. We

644
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: run a bunch of cell cameras. I think I have

645
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: forty fifty myself on multiple different farms. And this is

646
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: one of the deer that was pretty regular on the cameras,

647
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: so we knew that he was around and in the area,

648
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: and he's a maturity or I don't know exactly how

649
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: old he is. Um these these five plus based off

650
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: of all the characteristics, but um we my other daughter

651
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: hunted the same blind a week ago. So it was

652
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: last Sunday and we didn't see him, but when we

653
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: were walking out, he was in the food plot by

654
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: the time we got out of the blind that we're

655
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: walking out, so he was ten minutes late. So I

656
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: knew that it was it was a weather issue because

657
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: it was uh, probably degrees when we got into the

658
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: blind last week, and it was sixty four degrees on

659
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: Thursday when she shot the deer. So that's a good

660
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: code from man. That's that. That's the kind of set

661
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: that makes you excited for Yeah, we've had this short

662
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: little burst come through. We had a had that hiccup

663
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: of nineties plus degrees and then it's slowly dropped off. Uh,

664
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: Friday was good. Also today looks really good. But it's

665
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: gonna warm back up for a couple of days here

666
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: in Iowa, not to upper eighties, mid eighties something like that.

667
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: So it's it's September. It's a weird time of year

668
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: where you get those highs and lows. Yeah, for sure.

669
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: So congrats to you all again on that great buck

670
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: and the opportunity to get out in the stand with

671
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: your daughter and put around an ear. That's really awesome. Man.

672
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: As we look forward to, uh, you know that October

673
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: one opener that you reference there, Uh, do you feel

674
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: like food and water are going to be some of

675
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: the key things that people need to be thinking about

676
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: there across the central Midwest. So I don't know about

677
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: everywhere else, but we have had an absolute amazing mass

678
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: crop this year. The acorns are I've I've bow hunted

679
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: for over twenty years and I've I can't remember a

680
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: mass crop like this. I mean, there are there are

681
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: eight corns on trees that haven't had eight corns and

682
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: they're dropping and it's it's something else. So it's my

683
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: personal cameras on a couple of farms have been pretty

684
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: dry recently. Um, it's between the deer shedding their velvet.

685
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: I I've always called it the September scramble. When they're

686
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: shedding their velvet the acorns are dropping. You know, you

687
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 1: get these weird weather patterns. I lose a bunch of bucks.

688
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: I gained bucks, but I know they're still in the area.

689
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: So if I don't have anything to go after, you know, consistently,

690
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: you know it's close to daylight movement or something like that.

691
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: I'm a big dough hunter. I'll go I'll go out

692
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: whenever I can and start filling the freezer. That's cool,

693
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: that's exciting, man. So uh, you know, does are good

694
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: for freezers and bucks or are also good for freezers

695
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: and for having even more fun when you get to

696
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: show off to your buddies. Right, So, as we think

697
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: about maybe some buck hunting as well early this season,

698
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 1: what do you protict the deer movement between a scale

699
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: of one to ten to be specifically the buck movement

700
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: as a season opens there, I think you're gonna have

701
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: your pockets of of your home body deer that are

702
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: going to consistently do the same thing. I I've looked

703
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: ahead to kind of the forecast, and we don't have

704
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: a huge weather front coming through. We just kind of

705
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: have a gradual fall weather, you know, in the seventies

706
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: for highs, forties, fifties for lows, just kind of stagnant

707
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: for almost the next two weeks. So it's it's kind

708
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: of waiting to really go into your spot until you

709
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: do get some sort of a weather weather front. You know,

710
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: a little even even a ten degree temperature drop is

711
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: is huge to deer. It can get get those deer

712
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: on their feet, you know, ten fifteen, twenty minutes earlier well,

713
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: and get them to the food or into a transition

714
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: point going to the food. It just really depends. And

715
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: that's why we rely on trail cameras. I mean, the

716
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: cell cameras are invaluable. Um, it's they're a game changer. Awesome. Man. Well,

717
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: so if you're gonna show somebody this picture on social media,

718
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: where would you send them just to let him see

719
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: the picture of this big old buck that was shot. Um,

720
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: I've had it on my on my my social media pages. Um.

721
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: We posted probably the best one on the Outdoor x

722
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: Media facebook page. And I'm gonna probably edit the hunt

723
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: this week and have it up next week. Uh, it's

724
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: I got everything on video. I've I've been filming for

725
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen years consistently, and it's it's fun. She my

726
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: oldest daughter, loved it. I don't think she's killed the

727
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: deer turkey off film. Uh, since she's been hunting. She's eleven,

728
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: so she's got half a dozen deer and three or

729
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: four turkeys underneath her belt already. So that's awesome, man,

730
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: Well cool, So congrats on that. Tell her congrats and

731
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: we appreciate chopping on the phone with us. Yeah, not

732
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: a problem on the phone. Now, I've got Matt Dye

733
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: with Landing Legacy and he has been hunting and filming

734
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: in Missouri and filming some big old bucks. I think, man, Man,

735
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: I can't I can't be more happy than been. Honestly,

736
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: the way the season kind of kicked off for us

737
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: here in south central southwest Missouri, it's been awesome encounters

738
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: with some really mature deer and then some really good

739
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: up and comers and uh, a lot of deer activities.

740
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,479
Speaker 1: So we had a great start to the opener. That's cool, dude.

741
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: So Missouri kind of has a would I think is

742
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: a unique opener in the country where it's like kind

743
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: of mid to late September and so you're not really

744
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: hunting a true summer pattern, but it's not like fall

745
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: pre rut stuff. I wouldn't say, but why don't you

746
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: explain to me a little bit more kind of what

747
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 1: you had been seeing pattern wise. Absolutely, Yeah, it's September

748
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: fift Every single year is opener, doesn't matter what day

749
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: it falls on. September fifteenth rolls around and bow hunters

750
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: take to the hoods and it is that cool mix

751
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: of um, still some summer pattern. We've got some transitions,

752
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: some food sources that happened pretty frequently during this time frame,

753
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: so um, you're kind of catching that tail end of

754
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: summer activity. But things are due to change really a

755
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: matter of a couple of days as season opens up

756
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: every single year, and just depending on temperatures, depending on um,

757
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, whether you've got a mass production or not

758
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: that year kind of determines if those bucks are gonna

759
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: stay on that summer pattern for longer or not. And um,

760
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: this year, we have a really big white oak acorn

761
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: crop through much of the much of the state, and

762
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: we got kind of lucky that not a lot had

763
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: fallen prior to that September fift date, and they're hanging

764
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 1: the tree a little bit longer, and so we don't

765
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: have all that food source being available and on the ground,

766
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: so most of the deer activity that we were hunting

767
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: was definitely revolving around in alfalfa food source and then

768
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: a brassica blend food source just right next to each other,

769
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: probably about two and a half three acres um. Deer

770
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: were absolutely piling into both of those food sources. Yeah,

771
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: so you sound like you kind of have it pretty dialed.

772
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: And I've known you for a while, man, you actually

773
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: make you live in property management and you know, uh,

774
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: I guess evaluating wildlife properties as a whole. So the

775
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: place she'll we're hunting, is that a place that you've

776
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: put a lot of work into. So this is a

777
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: place that are good buddy, Seth Harker, who UM hunt

778
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: a lot with and it's part of kind of our

779
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: our team UM from a filming and content standpoint. He

780
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: has leased this place for ten, twelve, maybe fifteen years now,

781
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: and he's a little limited on the amount of habitat

782
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: manipulation that as an individual he can do. However, the

783
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 1: land donor is very much into UM intense timber management,

784
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: So sets kind of role as a least on this

785
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: place is very much UM food plot oriented. But then

786
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: there is a component of clear cuts, there's a component

787
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: of thin timber of edge feathering, of prescribed fire, of

788
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: pine plantations on this given five acre place. And so

789
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: although not everything is revolved around um wildlife habitat manipulation

790
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: like I do for our clients, it's still really good

791
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 1: and it's above it's above um average, let's say, from

792
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: the habitat that does offer and then sets done a

793
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: great job of supplementing that habitat with really successful of

794
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 1: food plot kind of regime. So every year it's it's

795
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: pretty much lights out. Got a great age structure. And

796
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: that's the thing too, if you're if you're out there

797
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: and you're listening, you don't have property to be that

798
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: hands on and manage, you can still have a lot

799
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: of influence on the age structure, on the deer herd

800
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: itself by what you're shooting, what you're not. So he's

801
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 1: done a good job of that. And in every year

802
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: there's you know, four or five six target deer um

803
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: on this place that are better. That's enough to make

804
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: me get the shivers for sure, dude. That's cool. So

805
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: y'all actually uh capitalized on some of that uh you

806
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: know kind of mid September action, I believe, and we're

807
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: able to uh shoot really really nice. Speaking of age structure,

808
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: buck right, can you tell us a little bit about

809
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: that hunt? Absolutely. So the hunt took place over the

810
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 1: course of four days. Um, we weren't able to get

811
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: out um the first day of season work schedule, and

812
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: then we didn't want to push it because the wind

813
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: wasn't just dynamite, and we said, you know what, let's

814
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: just wait, Um, the next day is gonna be better.

815
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: We're a little bit more free. So we didn't push

816
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: the envelope one, but we hunted the um next two

817
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: days consecutively. That was a Friday Saturday, and we saw

818
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: thirty thirty five deer each night. And night number one

819
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: we had the book that he ended up shooting. A

820
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: seven and a half year old tin pointer comes strolling

821
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: out six thirty. We had an hour of daylight, UM

822
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: left and he's at basically seventy eighty yards and the

823
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: field is just full of deer. But the deer never

824
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: comes within range during that night, and UM, We're like, well,

825
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: I'm not terribly upset. I mean, shoot, we saw we

826
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: saw a mature deer, We saw the target deer really

827
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: that we're hunting. Um, let's just get back in here

828
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: and so same when the next night get in there,

829
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: we ended up seeing another mature buck, and the one

830
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: that we had hunted the night before came out in

831
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: a different portion of the field, but a hundred and

832
00:44:55,239 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: fifty yards away, kind of went to a different food source. Um,

833
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: and we're kind of left with their head scratched a

834
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: little bit like man, as as many deal deer piled

835
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: in here, Uh, why didn't he come right back? But nonetheless,

836
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: we saw a four and a half year old buck

837
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: um right close to hundred fifty here, and and he

838
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: didn't come within range either, So we kind of made

839
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: a little bit of a judgment. Call Um, the wind.

840
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: The wind was gonna switch from southeast the first two days.

841
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: For the next two days is gonna be southwest and

842
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: hunting out of a saddle the first two nights kind

843
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: of on the west side of the plot, we've got

844
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: a blind situated for a southwest wind on the other side.

845
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: Made that gameplay. He took his son. The next day,

846
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: Um saw the original seven a half year old tin

847
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 1: pointer and then that four and a half year old

848
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 1: They came into range rate at last shooting light and

849
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: they're like, man, such another close encounter they're pounding this

850
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: food source. We got a good clean entry and exit,

851
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: and we're like, we're gonna hunt it four nights in

852
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: a row. Although temperatures yeah, right, pretty pretty pretty daring,

853
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 1: but we weren't getting busted getting in and getting out

854
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: and while we were in the tree, so we're like,

855
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: we're not really educating anything. So there's not a lot

856
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 1: of harm and and we're playing the win right um

857
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: and and normally don't tend to be that aggressive in

858
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: early season. But at the same time frame, we're kind

859
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: of we're kind of trying to run the race with

860
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: the acorn crop, knowing that hey, it's a bumper crop

861
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: this year. We don't want to push the envelope um

862
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: and and try and wait out and try to give

863
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 1: this field a little bit of rest. If they're still

864
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: showing up during daylight, it's just a matter of time

865
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: before they step within range during daylight hours two. So

866
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: if they're coming, we're coming. And we got the right wind.

867
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: So the fourth night we hunted, it was ninety three

868
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: degrees that day. It was the hottest day of them all,

869
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: and we're like, man, this is this is warm. We're

870
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: facing last as we're in this blind but um, just

871
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: like clockwork, here comes that one four and a half

872
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: year old dyer. He comes out, starts feeding our direction um,

873
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: and then about thirty minutes before darker last shooting light,

874
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: whereas the sun was setting just to our left, about

875
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: sixty five yards away, here comes that seven and a

876
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: half year old tin pointer strolls out of the timber

877
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: and directly into the plot, puts his head down, starts feeding,

878
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: and fortunately for us, unlike the other nights, he made

879
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: his way into the plot kind of fed to the

880
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: center of the plot um much faster than other days,

881
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: and close the distance to forty yards um about ten

882
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: minutes fifteen minutes of light left and Seth made an

883
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: excellent shot. But those deer were just kind of jockeying

884
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: back and forth between the fall annual blend of uh radishes,

885
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: turn ups and uh sugar beets and that alfalfa. So

886
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: he came within range and he made a great shot.

887
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: Deer went about eight yards and pile it up. Man,

888
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: you just gotta love when they do that. Dude, that's

889
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: just a true testament of hard work, determination and just

890
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, being committed to shooting true bucks and things

891
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: like that. Payoff and that that is awesome. So as

892
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: you look forward to uh, you know, the next week

893
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: here as um, maybe those acrons do you start dropping?

894
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 1: What do you predict buck movement to be like maybe

895
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: on a scale from one to ten. Well, I'm gonna say, really,

896
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: looking at the weather that we've got, we've got load

897
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: amid seventies and cool nights down into the forties uh

898
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 1: for for the next week. Um, and that that temperature

899
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: swing data, he's gonna be pretty good. And so I

900
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: anticipate the deer, specifically mature box they're gonna be moving.

901
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: But I want to throw caution out there too, is

902
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: they're probably going to be moving um as these acorns

903
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: are falling in different locations than what they have for

904
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: the last couple of months, going from shifting from that

905
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: kind of green field soybean crop field food plot clover

906
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: deal into more of a timber situation. So um, although

907
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: it may not feel like they're moving great on your cameras,

908
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: you got to make sure that those cameras are in

909
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: the right locations. They're over um your white oaks that

910
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: are dropping and producing, and you'll catch them there. They'll

911
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,479
Speaker 1: be there, um. And and it's not that hey deer

912
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: went nocturnal, It's just they've shifted patterns because we've got

913
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: a different food source here. I'm driving driving back from

914
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: Kansas right now from consulting and the other kind of

915
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: thing to consider for a lot of guys if you're

916
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: not in timber country with a lot of mass production.

917
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 1: As crops are changing. We got beans that are uh

918
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 1: dropping leaves, We've got corn that's coming out of the field,

919
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: and so those are some considerations that you should have

920
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: to as again, food sources are really changing, uh this

921
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: time of the year. Yeah. Absolutely, man, that's all good

922
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 1: stuff to consider. You're always a wealth of knowledge, dude.

923
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: And I know you film that hunt as well, so

924
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: real quick, tell everybody where they had find maybe some

925
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: of that footage and then also some other uh that

926
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: knowledge that you boys at Landing the Legacy have. Yeah. Um,

927
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: if they want to see some of those harvest photos, UM,

928
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: definitely go check out Instagram and Facebook Landing Legacy. Um

929
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: that that hunt is actually gonna be on YouTube and

930
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: potentially television um next year, So um kind of got

931
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: a new thing happening there, so we'll we'll have some

932
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: more announcements on that. UM. But do encourage people if

933
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: they like the habitat um talk they like manipulating their

934
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: landscape um for the betterment of whitetail hunting or turkey hunting.

935
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: Definitely check out podcast Uh we do to podcasts a

936
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 1: week here at Lanta Legacy and were habits at nerds

937
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: and plant nerves, but we love chasing big deer and

938
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: kind of combined it all together. Yeah, dude, that's awesome stuff.

939
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, brother. I really appreciate your time today. Absolutely, man,

940
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: take care and you'd be safe out there. Guys. Be

941
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: sure and check the description below to see more about

942
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: what we have going on. What Mark has going on

943
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: in some really helpful links that might help you as

944
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: season gets started. Here in particular, Mark has a pretty

945
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: good article about making things fun because it is important

946
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: to have fun while you're out there. It keeps you

947
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: rocking and rolling and having a good time and staying

948
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: sharp on these deer. This is ret fresh, Keep it fresh.