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Speaker 3: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: Welcome to The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Everybody,

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Speaker 2: strap your ears in because we are at lift off.

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Speaker 2: We've got a lot to talk about here. We are

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Speaker 2: stacked with stories much going on in the world today.

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Speaker 2: We will have Congressman Jim Jordan in the second hour

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Speaker 2: of program talking to us about well a number of

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Speaker 2: going to be discussing the latest on the GOP primary

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Speaker 2: heading into New Hampshire. Clay keeps asking the question, both

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Speaker 2: on this show and to me and text message and

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Speaker 2: phone call after the show, what is the path? And

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Speaker 2: I keep looking at them saying, for anyone not named Trump,

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Speaker 2: for sure, get into some of the details. JP Morgan's

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Speaker 2: But I think I know we got a few days

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Speaker 2: But for me, right now, biggest story in the country

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Speaker 2: is that Republicans are considering an immigration deal. At least

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Speaker 2: some Republicans are it's being crafted in the Senate. You

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Speaker 2: like criticism and secure Ukraine aid Clay. There's so much

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Speaker 2: It's actually my congresswoman who is calling for legalization of

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Speaker 2: It's all about evading accountability for the politicians who are

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Speaker 2: these mass amnesties, and this whole dignity not amnesty thing.

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Speaker 2: If it's so undignified, go back to your home country

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Speaker 2: That's what they are saying, Clay. We are losing our country.

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Speaker 2: The Democrats are on their back heels. The numbers are

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and here's something I would like to hear more

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Speaker 1: happen is as soon as the massive deportations began, there

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Speaker 1: And this is why I keep coming back to it,

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Speaker 2: And I'm talking about that. I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: The idea that if you cross the Rio Grande River,

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. But that's more even of a

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Speaker 2: you're completely correct, we have to end birthright citizenship. That

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Speaker 2: large numbers. Not one hundred thousand a year. It's going

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Speaker 1: To a million and a half millions to really impact things.

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Speaker 2: Right, And this is why I saw the Biden number.

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Speaker 2: They're like, we've deported four hundred thousand people, Like you've

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Speaker 2: let in seven million, You've deported four hundred thousand. Are

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Speaker 2: serious crimes or are being deported for a specific reason

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Speaker 2: let's remember something here. The corrective mechanism to a wide

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Speaker 2: who at least have the possibility of correcting it. Joe

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Speaker 2: this day one he says, we are stopping all deportations Clay,

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Speaker 2: for I think it's for one hundred days, right, ninety days,

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Speaker 2: All right, so we had Ted Cruz weighing in on

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Speaker 2: the immigration line. Everybody knows it it's a scam. It's

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Speaker 2: like if everyone decided to stop paying their taxes all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, the government would have a really big

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Speaker 2: problem with that. They'd say, the law is the law.

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Speaker 2: They decided to stop enforcing immigration law, and we're just

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Speaker 2: supposed to accept it. This is why the fact that

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Speaker 2: Republicans are the worst Republicans in the Senate that should

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Speaker 2: tell you a lot. Are the ones that are pushing

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Speaker 2: this the hardest. And the Republicans who are worried about

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Speaker 2: their jobs in the House because they're in close districts

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Speaker 2: or you know, even Biden districts, they're the ones who

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Speaker 2: are pushing this. It is entirely selfish. It is not

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Speaker 2: in the best interests of the country. And look, I'm

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Speaker 2: just gonna say it. If Trump doesn't win the election

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Speaker 2: and do the massive deportations that he's promising to do,

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Speaker 2: which some people listening to this probably think, oh, it's

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Speaker 2: just Trump saying Trump's stuff, right, Maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If Trump doesn't do that, folks, it's all over. He

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Speaker 2: might as well have an open border because the country

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Speaker 2: will be transformed forever and the lawlessness will overwhelm whatever

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Speaker 2: immigration system we think we have. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My concern is that the courts will immediately bog down

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Speaker 1: Trump when he tries to deport. Now, we've had Stephen

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Speaker 1: excuse me, and sophisticated about everything that needs to be

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Speaker 1: done at the border. I hope he is put in

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Speaker 1: charge in the event Trump wins and they just let

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Speaker 1: him go full on in.

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Speaker 2: Terms of trying to clean up the border.

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Speaker 1: But the problem is once you get over eight million

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Speaker 1: people here, which there will be by the time somebody

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Speaker 1: takes the oath of office in January of twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: just since Joe Biden became president, not to count the

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Speaker 1: ten million or so other whatever the mass number is,

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Speaker 1: how in the world do you go about moving that

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Speaker 2: And that never stops because we have a massive welfare state,

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Speaker 1: Remember, we're only four percent of the United State of

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Speaker 2: To VP or not to VP. That is the question

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Speaker 2: play that we are asking now about a bunch of

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Speaker 2: different possibilities here. Given the ascendency, it seems of the

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Speaker 2: Trump Primary into the Trump General as likely, not yet

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Speaker 2: a FATA com plea, but a likely possibility or a

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Speaker 2: likely scenario. I should say this came out though, and

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Speaker 2: we it did catch our attention, and because we're of

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Speaker 2: course sitting here saying wow, this is the kind of

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Speaker 2: thing that I feel like might have been discussed on

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Speaker 2: the most brilliant radio show currently on the air waves.

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Speaker 2: The possibility of instead of going for a traditional VP candidate, politician,

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Speaker 2: et cetera, to be at the bottom of a Trump ticket,

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Speaker 2: to go with somebody who would bring a little extra panache,

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Speaker 2: a little a little wow factor, a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a media sizzle to it all. And Tucker Carlson is

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Speaker 2: that name that was pushed out by us to Don

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump Senior, the former president, well, his oldest son,

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Speaker 2: Don Junior, was asked about this, and this is what

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Speaker 2: he said.

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Speaker 7: Around the santis. Could I see you're never going to

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Speaker 7: rule out someone that is, you know, a leading contender.

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Speaker 7: It doesn't mean that's who you go with. Like I

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Speaker 7: see other people that would be great. I'd love to see,

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Speaker 7: you know, a JD. Vance, I'd love to see Tucker Carlson.

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Speaker 7: I'd love to see, you know, people who are just principally,

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Speaker 7: you know, in alignment as well as like aggressive. You

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Speaker 7: actually need a fighter. The Republicans in Washington, DC are

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Speaker 7: a week. You can have the house to send it

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Speaker 7: and they'll still roll over it.

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Speaker 2: Don, Is your dad serious about Tucker Carlson? Are those

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Speaker 2: rumors serious?

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Speaker 7: I would have either Listen, that's clearly it would be

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Speaker 7: on the table, right. I mean, they're they're they're very friendly.

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Speaker 7: I think they agree on virtually all of these things.

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Speaker 7: They certainly agree on stopping the never ending wars, and

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Speaker 7: so you know, I would love to see that happen.

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Speaker 7: And you know that that would certainly.

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Speaker 2: Be a contender, certainly a contender on the table he

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Speaker 2: has discounted other or other people have already been discounted

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Speaker 2: from the VP consideration. Clay, what do you make of

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Speaker 2: this one?

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Speaker 1: The reason why I like Tucker And we talked about

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Speaker 1: it on this show. We talked about it, raised it

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Speaker 1: directly with Trump when we were with him in mar

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Speaker 1: A Lago in November, and he said, yes, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to be considering it as a part of that discussion

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Speaker 1: with us. I agree with what Don Junior said, and

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Speaker 1: this is the the the ultimate argument that I made.

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Speaker 1: You need a brawler, you need somebody who can take

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Speaker 1: on the media because you're gonna deal with a rigged

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Speaker 1: media that I think is gonna make twenty twenty look

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Speaker 1: like child's play. I think they are going to roll

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Speaker 1: out the next level of dishonesty in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Is there a next level?

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Speaker 5: Though?

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Speaker 1: And I mean that in all I mean is I

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Speaker 1: mean the next level to me is you're trying to

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Speaker 1: put the guy in prison.

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Speaker 2: For the rest of his well. But that's not the

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Speaker 2: media so much as it is now.

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Speaker 1: But the media is carrying the water to argue that

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Speaker 1: that's necessary for democracy.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: The stakes to me are even more elevated in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four, and I just want I want a barroom brawler.

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Speaker 1: You know, Mike Pence is a nice guy. Mike Pence

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Speaker 1: would feel awful if he told a reporter. I think

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Speaker 1: if you guys made up gone to an SEC football

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Speaker 1: game to chat. You know, we have not hung out

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Speaker 1: since he was he's still unhappy about his performance on

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Speaker 1: the show. But Mike Pence, I think, would genuinely feel

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Speaker 1: bad if he reamed out a reporter. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Tucker Arlson would. And I think sometimes you have to.

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Speaker 2: I know Tucker Carlson wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: In fact, yes, right, but I think that's necessary. I

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Speaker 1: think you have to turn the camera onto the inquisitors

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Speaker 1: as it were, and show how biased they all are.

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Speaker 1: I like a least Stephonic. I think she's super smart.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because that's she's now the lead. She's

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Speaker 1: not that conservative, but okay, she's now the lead. If

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Speaker 1: you look at the odds market, first up is at

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Speaker 1: least a fanics. Second is uh is Christin Noam, so

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Speaker 1: the gamblers out there seem to be betting on Trump

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Speaker 1: is going to pick a woman as a VP candidate.

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Speaker 1: And the third is Nikki Haley. Now purely on a

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Speaker 1: analyze what the impact.

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Speaker 2: Is of this? Get ready for this impact everybody, And

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Speaker 2: remember Clay is the one who was.

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Speaker 1: About to be speaking purely on the basis of what

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Speaker 1: could I gain from the VP. Let me pray preface

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Speaker 1: this by saying, I love Tucker and also Buck. I've

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Speaker 1: said for a year, pick somebody who's gonna win you.

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Speaker 2: A state the lean into it, Travis, don't let me.

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Speaker 2: These are the three.

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Speaker 1: These are the three top contenders according to the odds

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Speaker 1: market elist. Stephonic is now number one. She has put

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Speaker 1: pasted Christy Noam. First time we've seen a new person.

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Speaker 1: You want to talk about? Number three?

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Speaker 2: Talk about you? Is Christy Noam.

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Speaker 1: Three is I think Nicky Hayley would help Trump the most.

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Speaker 2: In the general election. Oh man at Clay Travis on

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Speaker 2: Twitter A right, and some of you are like, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, how dare you you know? It's my uh

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Speaker 2: my favorite is one I get yelled at for your

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Speaker 2: things because you know, he never tweetsed them. That's actually

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Speaker 2: my fault. It's always you know, you gotta stop doing

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Speaker 2: the thing that you said. I'm like, I didn't even

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Speaker 2: say that.

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Speaker 1: I think that at the general election, if you are

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Speaker 1: trying to appeal to suburban moms, and by the way,

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Speaker 1: every time I say this, I get deluged with suburban

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Speaker 1: moms who all say this won't work for me. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I understand the suburban mom community is expansive, right. The

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Speaker 1: reason why I focus on suburban moms is if you

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Speaker 1: go look at the raw data, Trump didn't lose the

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Speaker 1: vote anywhere except in the suburbs of Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Phoenix, Milwaukee,

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Speaker 1: all of these places.

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Speaker 2: Detroit.

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Speaker 1: I know these areas pretty well. I've traveled around to

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Speaker 1: a lot of them. I'm married to a suburban girl

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Speaker 1: from Oakland County outside of Detroit, right, still have a

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Speaker 1: lot of family there. That is a toss up region.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to appeal to the moms there who

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Speaker 1: are not super engaged in politics, they're not the audience

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Speaker 1: that is listening to.

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Speaker 2: Us right now.

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Speaker 1: I think Nikki Haley appeals to them because they think

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Speaker 1: she is like them. I'm not saying that she is

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Speaker 1: the greatest pick from anything other than all I care

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Speaker 1: about is winning, right for better or worse. I'm like

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Speaker 1: Al Davis famous quote for you, buck in sports, just

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Speaker 1: win baby, Winning is all that map. DJ Collin, he

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Speaker 1: lives down by you now in Miami, might be your neighbor.

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Speaker 2: He's a smart man on several counts, it seems. I

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Speaker 2: don't think. I don't if you're picking a woman, I

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Speaker 2: think that's the play. Yeah, I mean the problem that

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Speaker 2: that people are going to have with that is, of

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Speaker 2: course that she is simultaneously a woman who all the

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Speaker 2: things you said I think applies. She may appeal to

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Speaker 2: women in suburban areas of the electorate that are very

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Speaker 2: important for Trump to win. However, she is also the

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Speaker 2: preferred candidate of the Mitch McConnell GOP established it, and

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Speaker 2: that's that's the part of this that's going to really

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Speaker 2: be tough in win In. I think he'll make whatever

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Speaker 2: decision he makes and the party will fall in line

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Speaker 2: behind him on the VP thing, because I also don't believe, well,

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Speaker 2: actually no, that's not true. I usually am very skeptical

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Speaker 2: of how important a VP pick is for the election

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Speaker 2: and also for the course of the presidency. This VP

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Speaker 2: pick would in many ways put somebody in a position

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Speaker 2: to be a top contender to run for president in

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Speaker 2: two years, to start running the president. And you know, theoretically, right,

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Speaker 2: but you could have somebody if it were Nikki Haley.

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Speaker 2: She's looking at all the committees and funding and paperwork

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Speaker 2: to run in twenty twenty eight. By twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 2: it's pretty quick. Let me let me also point this out.

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Speaker 2: Trump has such a.

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Speaker 1: Strong hand right now, and I think you would sign

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Speaker 1: off on this too. When he picked Mike Pence, it

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Speaker 1: was designed to deal with a weakness of his candidacy,

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Speaker 1: which was evangelicals did not trust Donald Trump in twenty sixteen, right,

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Speaker 1: there was skepticism about how committed he was to the

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Speaker 1: evangelical community.

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Speaker 2: Not a guy.

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say that a lot of

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Speaker 1: people think about walking around with a Bible in and

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Speaker 1: out of church still to this day, I would say,

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Speaker 1: a common thought, right, but I don't think that concern

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Speaker 1: still exists. So Mike Pence in twenty sixteen was a

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Speaker 1: pick that Trump made to solidify the support that he

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Speaker 1: was going to have going forward. I think Trump has

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Speaker 1: the luxury now of having such a strong relationship with

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Speaker 1: his base that he could pick Tucker Carlson, he could

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Speaker 1: pick Nikki Hayley, he could pick Christin no On the

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Speaker 1: least Stephonic, any of these people, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: it would change the base's opinion of him at all.

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Speaker 1: That is a luxury that he has in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four that he did not have in.

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Speaker 2: Twenty sixteen. That part of it is true. So we

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Speaker 2: shall see. Do you want to go down right now

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Speaker 2: on the red who you think the VP pick is

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Speaker 2: going to be. I think it's gonna be Oh man,

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Speaker 2: I think it should be Tucker. Okay, that would be

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Speaker 2: my number one pick. I think he would.

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Speaker 1: Be a just absolutely incredible advocate for Trump, the best

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Speaker 1: possible version. I think he's gonna pick a woman because

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Speaker 1: I think he thinks that that's going to help him

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Speaker 1: in the in the campaign, and I think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: end up with Christy Noan.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is kind of boring because I think he's

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Speaker 2: also gonna end up with Christy Noam. So there you go.

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Speaker 2: If I if I had to go with it right now,

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Speaker 2: that would be my guess. So we're both in we're

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Speaker 2: both in the vote together on this one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's say, let's point this out, not that

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Speaker 1: people watch the VP debates or even that we're going

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Speaker 1: to have VP debates. I don't think that Christy Noam

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Speaker 1: right out, Yeah, I don't think that Christy Noam would

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Speaker 1: lasso Kamala Harris and sort of throw her over back

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Speaker 1: I think at least Stephonic could absolutely crush Kamala Harris

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Speaker 1: in a head to head battle. So if that's your analysis,

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Speaker 1: if you want a scrapper, then I think elist Stephonic

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Speaker 1: a you know, sort of hey, I'm picking a woman

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Speaker 1: I think Christy Noam is going to be the pick.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Congressman Jim

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Speaker 1: Jory in Great State of Ioa, Ohio joins us. Now

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Speaker 1: we got a lot to dive into with him. But

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Speaker 1: right off the top of Congressman, you've been one of

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Speaker 1: the longest, most steadfast supporters of Donald Trump anywhere in

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Speaker 1: American politics. Were even you surprised by the thirty point

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Speaker 1: win in Iowa? And as a core A subpart to

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Speaker 1: that is this over. Does Nicky Haley and Ron DeSantis?

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Speaker 1: Do they need to drop out? And do we just

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Speaker 1: need to start looking towards the general in ten months?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's over.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it was a huge win in minus twenty degree.

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Speaker 8: Whether people came out, I thought it was interesting. Though.

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Speaker 5: One of the pulling things I saw was I think

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Speaker 5: it was like almost eight out of ten Iowa voters

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Speaker 5: Republican voters, that they believe the government has been weaponized

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Speaker 5: against the American people, and who more so than than

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Speaker 5: than weaponized against President Trump. So I think that was

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Speaker 5: a that they believe that because it's the truth, and

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Speaker 5: that was a big motivating thing, and I think one

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Speaker 5: of the reasons that President Trump won with such a

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Speaker 5: big margin. Plus I mean, people just this guy did

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Speaker 5: what he said. You know, that's most politicians say one

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Speaker 5: thing getting office and don't do it. He actually did

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Speaker 5: what he told the American people he was going to do.

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Speaker 5: And I think compared to Joe Biden where we're at,

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Speaker 5: people people respect that as well.

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Speaker 8: So it was the big win. It was fun to

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Speaker 8: be out there and see it all happen. Like you said,

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Speaker 8: I think he's.

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Speaker 5: Gonna win New Hampshire. I think he's gonna win South Carolina, Nevada,

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Speaker 5: and he's gonna get the nomination, and more importantly, think

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Speaker 5: he's gonna be our next president.

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Speaker 2: Conoerson, Jordan, appreciate you being with us, boy, And I've

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Speaker 2: been talking a bit about the Fannie Willis situation. She's

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Speaker 2: the prosecutor, just for our audience, who is who has

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Speaker 2: brought the Rico case, the rackets heering case against Trump

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Speaker 2: over election issues in alleged issues in Fulton County. Looks

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Speaker 2: like she has some issues of her own, ethical and

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Speaker 2: perhaps even legal. What do you make of this and

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Speaker 2: what does it say about yet another of the efforts

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Speaker 2: to get Donald Trump seeming to run into some problems.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I think it's been a joke from the

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Speaker 5: get go. Remember shand divid nineteen people. She thought about

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Speaker 5: indicting three United States Senators, including the top Republican on

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Speaker 5: the Senate Judiciary committe.

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Speaker 8: That's how ridiculous this is.

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Speaker 5: But you know, now we find out that that she's

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Speaker 5: hired uh this Nathan Wade paid him more than actual

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Speaker 5: RICO experts, and it's supposed to be a recote trial

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Speaker 5: or charged. She's paying him more a guy who's been

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Speaker 5: held in contempt, a guy who built twenty four hours straight,

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Speaker 5: I guess on his billing. And you guys were on

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Speaker 5: the front edge of this. I happened to catch a

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Speaker 5: show we were driving last week, and you guys, you

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Speaker 5: were on this before I think just about anybody. But

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Speaker 5: we actually sent us a way to letter and we said,

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Speaker 5: we want to know who you talked to in the

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Speaker 5: DJ give us all the communications you had. We want

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Speaker 5: to who'd you talk to in the White House, And

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Speaker 5: just as importantly, who'd you talk on the January sixth

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Speaker 5: committee to help quote, according to the press, jump start

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Speaker 5: the District Attorney's investigation down there in the President Trump.

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Speaker 5: So we want some answers to this too, that I

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Speaker 5: think the American people do. But you're you're right, this

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Speaker 5: this all looks I think just more ridiculous now when

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Speaker 5: we find out this this this you know guy, that

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Speaker 5: this mister Wade, that who Fannie Willis has hired, who

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Speaker 5: I don't think really has much of an expertise in

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Speaker 5: the subject of the entire investigation.

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Speaker 2: No doubt. And I want to hammer this home.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you guys have opened this investigation into Willis

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Speaker 1: the state of Georgia. We've got a lot of Georgia

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Speaker 1: politicians who listened to this show. We appreciate everybody there.

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Speaker 1: This is I know you would probably second this as

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Speaker 1: much as might need to be taking place on a

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Speaker 1: federal level. And I appreciate again you guys shining the

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Speaker 1: spotlight on this state of Georgia needs to be investigating

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Speaker 1: this Prosecutor Fanny Willis and everybody else involved in this

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Speaker 1: investigation in your opinion as well, right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, And I thought it was great.

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Speaker 5: I'm having, like I said, call your show and you

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Speaker 5: were talking about this. Yeah, And I do believe that

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Speaker 5: Governor Kemp in the trade general now are beginning to

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Speaker 5: do that, which I think is important, you know, But

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Speaker 5: there have been all kinds of problems with every single

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Speaker 5: one of these would We actually did a hearing in

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Speaker 5: Manhattan and Alvin Bragfast his indictment of President Twamp and

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Speaker 5: now you see what's going on here in Atlanta. And

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Speaker 5: of course we got all kinds of things we can

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Speaker 5: say about Jack Smith in his indictment in Miami and

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Speaker 5: in the one in here at see.

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Speaker 8: So it's all a problem. But again, to go back

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Speaker 8: to the first topic, President.

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Speaker 5: Trump has a line he uses in just about.

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Speaker 8: Every every time he gives his speech.

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Speaker 5: I think he's got a lot of great lines, but

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Speaker 5: he always says, they're coming after me because I'm fighting

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Speaker 5: for you. Well, when we were with him and Iowa,

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Speaker 5: he actually changed the line. He said they're coming after

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Speaker 5: my freedom because I'm fighting for yours.

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Speaker 8: And this is true. People can see it.

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Speaker 5: Foreign Dietmonds to State two federal they all treated. People

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Speaker 5: can see it because Americans have common sense. And I

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Speaker 5: think that's a huge motivating factor why people came out

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Speaker 5: in such a big way in ioland I think they're

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Speaker 5: going to continue to do it in this in this

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Speaker 5: election cycle, speaking.

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Speaker 2: Of Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio and Congressman I see

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Speaker 2: here this letter from the Committee on the Judiciary and

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Speaker 2: Select Committee on the Weaponization of Federal Government that is

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Speaker 2: looking into whether and you tweeted about this, whether the

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Speaker 2: federal government flag terms like MAGA and Trump to financial institution,

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Speaker 2: if Americans completed transactions using those terms. Also if you

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Speaker 2: bought a religious text like a Bible or shopped at

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Speaker 2: vass Pro job What the heck is going on here?

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Speaker 5: We've learned in the last year about all the censorship,

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Speaker 5: big tech, big government, big academia, you know, big media,

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Speaker 5: all working the censor Americans. Now we know it's big government,

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Speaker 5: big corporation's, big banks working to financially surveil Americans. And

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Speaker 5: it's frightening because and we're just on the front end

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Speaker 5: of this, but you got banks that are at the

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Speaker 5: urging of the federal government searching their their customers their

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Speaker 5: transactions using key terms and the terms, where as you

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Speaker 5: just describe about their you know, Trump, MAGA.

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Speaker 8: But I think more.

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Speaker 5: Importantly it's like did they buy something at Cabella's, did

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Speaker 5: they did they buy a firearm at bass Pro shop

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Speaker 5: or whatever. And in this idea that religious texts. I mean,

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Speaker 5: if you buy a Bible and a gun and somehow

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Speaker 5: you're own the domestic violent extremist watch list. And when

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Speaker 5: you read through some of the doctor it's the initial

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Speaker 5: documents we've gotten. It sounds exactly like that memorandum from

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Speaker 5: the Richmond Field office that we learned about a little

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Speaker 5: over a year ago where the Richmond Field Office of

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Speaker 5: the FBI was describing pro life Catholics as radical extremes.

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Speaker 5: It reads exactly like that garbage.

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Speaker 8: And so now we know.

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Speaker 5: It's not just limited to centory. It's like financial surveillance.

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Speaker 5: And so we're gonna we're little we're on the front

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Speaker 5: end of this, but we're going to dig into this

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Speaker 5: because this is this is just as scary as the

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Speaker 5: censorship effort that that we've uncovered over the last year.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Congressman Jim Jordan.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's go into actual legislation that has taking

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Speaker 1: place right now on Capitol Hill. Buck and I started

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Speaker 1: off the show today talking about this idea of border

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Speaker 1: security being coupled with Ukraine, which I think is for

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Speaker 1: many people out there dead on arrival in terms of

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Speaker 1: the way people are responding, but also the new speaker,

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Speaker 1: we're hearing a lot of pressure potentially about what might

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Speaker 1: happen to him over the negotiations on budget bills going forward.

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Speaker 1: From your perspective, and you're better plugged in than almost

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Speaker 1: anybody probably in the entire country, what should we know

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Speaker 1: about what's going on on Capitol Hill right now?

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Speaker 2: And where is this going?

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Speaker 5: Well, there are three big issues I think here in the.

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Speaker 8: Next month or so that it's going to be dealt

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Speaker 8: with on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 5: Actually four, but the count, the epeachment, inquirrement, that's that's

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Speaker 5: part of the oversight effort. But when it comes to legislation,

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Speaker 5: you've got the appropriation thing, we got to on the government,

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Speaker 5: how that'll all, how that all plays out. You got

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Speaker 5: the Pizer renewal, which is huge. So there has to

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Speaker 5: be reforms there to protect American security, particularly light of

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Speaker 5: what we've we just talked about with censorship and with

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Speaker 5: this financial surveillance, and then of course it's just Ukraine

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Speaker 5: border issue, and you know we're trying to navigate all

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Speaker 5: those I do think this this build up was sort

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Speaker 5: of leaked out that was coming from the Senate is

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Speaker 5: a non starter. Speaker Johnson that indicated he is not

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Speaker 5: going to go for what that. You know that the

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Speaker 5: language leaked out there, But yeah, the American people understand,

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Speaker 5: let's secure our border before we even think about doing

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Speaker 5: anything more. For you, I voted against most of the

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Speaker 5: money for Ukraine, so I'm not not keen on that because.

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Speaker 8: People still can't tell me what the objective is, what's

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Speaker 8: our goal? What's our objects?

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Speaker 5: Normally, when you when you're going to fund something, you guys,

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Speaker 5: what are we trying to We're trying to move him

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Speaker 5: out of the Downboss region of Ukraine.

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Speaker 8: We're trying to get him out.

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Speaker 5: Of crime you which they've been, which they've had now

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Speaker 5: for ten years.

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Speaker 8: What's the objective?

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Speaker 5: So I sort of think we need to know that

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Speaker 5: before you continue to fund Ukraine. And then of course

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Speaker 5: people are focused on our border first. So I think

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Speaker 5: that what's been talking about in the Senate is basically

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Speaker 5: a non starter in the House, Speaker Johnson is indicated.

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Speaker 5: So and I think that's where the American people are

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Speaker 5: and it's the right position.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Speaker Johnson is safe? We saw what

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Speaker 1: happened with Kevin McCarthy and the attempt to find a

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Speaker 1: new speaker. The margin, now you know better than me,

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Speaker 1: is down to two or three votes with illnesses and

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Speaker 1: with people with special elections coming up and everything else.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost never been closer. Is he safe

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Speaker 1: in your mind?

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Speaker 5: I mean I think yeah, I think Mike's he's a

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Speaker 5: good man and he's a good friend. I thought it

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Speaker 5: was a complete mistake to do it. Happened to speak

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Speaker 5: a McCarthy. I think it would be a mistake to

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Speaker 5: do that to Speaker Johnson. We gotta we got to

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Speaker 5: navigate these through. We've got to get reform on five that,

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Speaker 5: We've got to continue to do our oversight. We've got

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Speaker 5: to continue to finish this impeachment inquiry and then make

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Speaker 5: a decision whether we're going to move forward with articles

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Speaker 5: on the President of the United States.

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Speaker 8: We've got to get those done.

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Speaker 5: But I don't see how it helps us or how

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Speaker 5: we help the American people by by changing the speakers again.

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Speaker 5: So let's let's focus on getting our job done. Let's

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Speaker 5: focus on our oversight, and let's get let's get to

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Speaker 5: November where President Trump is going to win this election

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Speaker 5: and get in there and and and be our next

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Speaker 5: President and really make a change of things. I think

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Speaker 5: that's that's in the best interests of the American people,

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Speaker 5: and that's that's what I'm pushing for.

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Speaker 2: Congress and Jim Jordan. Always good to have you on

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Speaker 2: with us, sir, Thanks for being here.

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Speaker 8: Thank you guys. Keep up the good work.

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