Speaker 1: This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at
Speaker 1: production of The Black Effect and I heart Radio. I'm
Speaker 1: Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John And this
Speaker 1: is cut to it. Good do it, Good do it.
Speaker 1: They's getting down to do it. Good do it. We
Speaker 1: asked the questions you always want to know, but no
Speaker 1: one ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard
Speaker 1: am about it? Then we're about to let you know
Speaker 1: it's all and we're gonna starting five, three to go. Steven,
Speaker 1: how's it going? Man? Going good? You got a big
Speaker 1: smile on your face, and I think I know why?
Speaker 1: Why is that? We are overdue for good old episode
Speaker 1: of big dummy hit there from one with Tom b
Speaker 1: Oh no you big, you gotta set you gotta set
Speaker 1: the stage for this one. I have to Yeah, you
Speaker 1: got you sent me the video. Okay, which one are
Speaker 1: we doing? Because there are several dummies in the world
Speaker 1: right now, let's talk about the one from the San
Speaker 1: Diego Zoo. Here we go. So alright, people you know
Speaker 1: usually pay your money post pri whatever pandemic party you
Speaker 1: want to be on. But it's pretty standard. You pay
Speaker 1: your money go to the zoo. Now, most people but
Speaker 1: every so off the song, dumb person decides they want
Speaker 1: to test entomos. Have you ever thought about testing the animals?
Speaker 1: That would be a big no for me. Now. Pretty
Speaker 1: much when it says do not feed the animals, do
Speaker 1: not enter whatever, I pretty much follow those rules. Why
Speaker 1: first off, is because my mama told me to. So
Speaker 1: that's kind of that's pretty much the you know what
Speaker 1: I live by. Not everybody listened to their mama, but
Speaker 1: continue maybe for you, but for me, I just kind
Speaker 1: of I just kind of learned those rules were like, hey,
Speaker 1: if if that says do not touch, do not feed,
Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't push those kind of boundaries.
Speaker 1: I really can't. In this particular story where a man
Speaker 1: was arrested at the San Diego Zoo, he took his
Speaker 1: two year old um girl past the fence past where
Speaker 1: it says do not didn't take it past. He climbed
Speaker 1: into the exhibit, went beyond, went beyond the boundaries of
Speaker 1: the elephant exhibit with live I think it was Asian
Speaker 1: and African elephants. Yeah, Asian and African elephants, um endangering
Speaker 1: his two year old daughter. So bypassing multiple barriers, including
Speaker 1: an electric fence, police told the station. Kg TV police
Speaker 1: told the station the man allegedly wanted to take a
Speaker 1: photo with the Asian and freaking elephants. He took a
Speaker 1: selfie holding his child. Afterwards. A witness told ABC ten
Speaker 1: that she was grateful to see the man and the
Speaker 1: girl is successfully escaped without any injuries. But the man
Speaker 1: appeared to drop his child as he attempted to get
Speaker 1: away from the elephant after the elephants started charging at
Speaker 1: the both of them because he was hitting up the
Speaker 1: deuces holding his baby, so he wanted to get a selfie,
Speaker 1: and of all the things that you dropped at that moment,
Speaker 1: he dropped the child. Well, he kind of saw the video.
Speaker 1: He dropped the child trying to get through the electrical
Speaker 1: fence so he doesn't get shocked and dropped her butt off.
Speaker 1: Be an apologist for this behavior, I'm not. I'm just
Speaker 1: setting it up, Like I'm just really just setting up
Speaker 1: I'm just watched the video several times, and you know
Speaker 1: the sad part was is I was I didn't find
Speaker 1: it funny or met all. Yeah, what's sad is like
Speaker 1: we're at the place where we want to get inside
Speaker 1: of the cage to take a picture for what likes comments,
Speaker 1: and and those boundaries are there for a reason. And
Speaker 1: I get what kind of in a day and age
Speaker 1: where people people people people push boundaries, right, people people
Speaker 1: don't always follow rules. And while I may not agree,
Speaker 1: I see it. But in this situation, these barriers are there,
Speaker 1: I don't know for a reason. If there's a barrier
Speaker 1: preceded by an electric fence, you may not want to
Speaker 1: go past said fence, especially not with your child. Exactly
Speaker 1: the one one uh tweet this show and it reads
Speaker 1: this dumbass baby daddy takes picture with elephant. But what's crazy, though,
Speaker 1: is we're starting to see this more and more where
Speaker 1: people are willing to just get the like and willing
Speaker 1: to risk themselves and their child. What's crazy? And then
Speaker 1: he gets arrested rightfully so, yeah, rightfully so, but I
Speaker 1: just don't get it. I don't understand. Like, but here's
Speaker 1: the worst part though, the worst part is that this
Speaker 1: father is growing up raising his child, who now this
Speaker 1: is an example of protection. Yes, so as a whack
Speaker 1: As example, I saw that, I was like, oh man,
Speaker 1: and like they had to tell him, like, hey, there's
Speaker 1: the elephant, and that's more than anything you had to do.
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't just all right, I'm just gonna hop
Speaker 1: this little wire fence. So I'm just gonna I'll just
Speaker 1: go mosy through this gate, like you had to go
Speaker 1: past the gate, then pass the electrical fence, then you
Speaker 1: drop the child, Like, man, how dunk can you be?
Speaker 1: You n cole, bloody dummy, super dumb. But they just
Speaker 1: keep rolling in. Every time I see something like this,
Speaker 1: I'm like, how much more stupid can people get? And
Speaker 1: then there's yet another video. I'm not can you you're
Speaker 1: a big dumber? There's always in a sad and and
Speaker 1: and and not to make fun of it, but you
Speaker 1: also it's more just kind of really saying like how
Speaker 1: stupid people are and where we're at right now that
Speaker 1: people want to get that stuff on video on picture.
Speaker 1: So sad Indictmond, sad Indictmond. But congratulations because bigger dum dumbing.
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty good. Yeah, that's a good one. So, hey,
Speaker 1: who we got coming up on the cut to a podcast?
Speaker 1: We've got Joe Montgomery, a current broadcast with ESPN. She's
Speaker 1: also the CEO of Four Leaf Productions and a former
Speaker 1: USA Track and Field star. Joe Montgomery on the cut
Speaker 1: to a podcast. M you hear that's my Black Irish
Speaker 1: walkout music. Also that's that's not like it should be
Speaker 1: a wwe like Black Irish, the Black irishman's name els right,
Speaker 1: or the three studies right. That's that's that's gonna get
Speaker 1: as kids three two we have I want to say
Speaker 1: fan favorite, but it's really a personal friend of mine
Speaker 1: and also someone who only the very few people who
Speaker 1: walk this earth who are allowed to talk to me
Speaker 1: in the way that she talks to me, like my mentor.
Speaker 1: And also um, good friend Jill Montgomery. J Jill, welcome
Speaker 1: to the cut to the podcast. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for this day. MM. We've never had
Speaker 1: someone who anticipated the participate not all the time. Oh no,
Speaker 1: one never verbalized it. So let's go sta keep you
Speaker 1: on your toes man, Jill. Our first segment is called
Speaker 1: get iced Up. You may have heard of it if
Speaker 1: you listen to our podcasts. It is our version of
Speaker 1: Icebreakers their random questions Smitty has selected might be a
Speaker 1: follow up? Might not? Who knows Smitty go ahead and
Speaker 1: give her the person. Well, Jill on this podcast in
Speaker 1: my world, I can ask you a double barrel question.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to everybody what why you said that? Though?
Speaker 1: So a double barrel question is in um in journalism
Speaker 1: is when you ask more than one question, and the question,
Speaker 1: which my coach and mentor tells me, when you asked
Speaker 1: two questions, or some people ask three questions in one,
Speaker 1: they never answered either one. Sometimes they never because you
Speaker 1: forget the first question by the second one, and you
Speaker 1: forget the second one at the third one. Double barrel
Speaker 1: because this is this is your show. This is this
Speaker 1: isn't a session with me where we're making you better
Speaker 1: on the NFL network. This is all This is no
Speaker 1: holds barred, You do what you want. I'm game, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I do have fun with it. However, I still
Speaker 1: am practicing all of my notes that I still have.
Speaker 1: I love that. All right, let's go. I don't have
Speaker 1: to ask te yes you okay, We're gonna have to
Speaker 1: ask t F you all right, which she tells me, Steve,
Speaker 1: shut them and let us and as f W, I say,
Speaker 1: and that's your down person, answer the question. Don't be
Speaker 1: super excited. So that's why, all right, here we go.
Speaker 1: Are you ready, Jill? I am ready? Okay, here we go,
Speaker 1: what do you want to leave? Everything? Taking anything, nothing,
Speaker 1: not your bank account, not your safe He's just let me.
Speaker 1: I'll keep my bank account. But I want to leave.
Speaker 1: I want to leave the negativity, the the the division,
Speaker 1: the people becoming puppets and sheep. I want to leave
Speaker 1: all of that in. I want people to reinvent and
Speaker 1: find faith in one. I want I want all the
Speaker 1: negativity and everything that that encompassed to stay. The hell there,
Speaker 1: oh here. I love that answer. I like that answer too.
Speaker 1: All right. If you had to ride amusement park ride
Speaker 1: twenty times in a row, let's say Disney World, Space Mountain,
Speaker 1: Small World, or the Teapot ride is a row, you're
Speaker 1: gonna I would do the Teapot twenty times in a row.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna. I'm gonna throw this back on you. As
Speaker 1: you know, I may have dabbled in professional athletics in
Speaker 1: my life. I cannot go on a Merry Go round,
Speaker 1: any carnival rides, the zipper, the you know whatever and
Speaker 1: anything that spins and turns and what and all My
Speaker 1: friends could and I never could. And I didn't understand
Speaker 1: why I would get sick, violently sick, throwing up like
Speaker 1: gravy eyes out my nose sick, asked my doctor once.
Speaker 1: I said, why can't I ride carnival rides? And he
Speaker 1: said professional athletes. Some of them have such insane hand
Speaker 1: eye coordination that their body processes every move and it
Speaker 1: throws their equilibrium off. That is correct. I've been since
Speaker 1: I was a little boy. When I spin around, we
Speaker 1: used to have this wooden lean leanable, the wooden chairs
Speaker 1: that lean spin around. When I was a kid, we
Speaker 1: used to spend and spent me too much, and I
Speaker 1: have been Mr Queasy ever since. I cannot do anything.
Speaker 1: You've got them bad guts. He doesn't have bad guys.
Speaker 1: It's because you have ridiculous hand eye coordination. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so so which one? So you so you are eliminating
Speaker 1: the teapot ride? Correct? I would. That's when I would
Speaker 1: ride twenty times in a row. Don't they go around
Speaker 1: and around? Yeah, there's it's the little kid one, right.
Speaker 1: It's just like I've been there multiple times. I don't
Speaker 1: never get on that. I think that was like the
Speaker 1: worst one. I mean, the kids say, oh Dad, you're scared. Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I can't. Here's why I can't do space Mountain though,
Speaker 1: because I'm not the tallest dude. But you can see
Speaker 1: the bars in there and it's pretty scary. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I can't do small world times in a row. I'll
Speaker 1: give you two your late night go to snack ramen
Speaker 1: noodles out of the pan, not even putting it in
Speaker 1: a bowl underneath the towel. Raman chicken flavored ramen noodles.
Speaker 1: I'm judging. Are you judging? Why are you judging it now?
Speaker 1: Just because I eat it so much as a kid
Speaker 1: that I just I can't do it. But back in
Speaker 1: the day, like you do the stove top ramen noodles,
Speaker 1: you put the pack and then sometimes you get the
Speaker 1: risk of chicken. And that's what I'm saying, is that
Speaker 1: the old school just the regular classic chicken rama noodles,
Speaker 1: not the crazy ones they have now, but the old
Speaker 1: school ones where you had to boil them in the
Speaker 1: water and then add the packet sauce in it. And
Speaker 1: I always drained most of the water out and and
Speaker 1: ate it that way. I didn't make mine as a soup,
Speaker 1: do you know what? I do love them cup of
Speaker 1: noodles the same thing. What what do you mean you're
Speaker 1: gonna judge me on my ramen. It was just just
Speaker 1: easy because just add the hot water to it. I
Speaker 1: think it tastes better shrill like the shrip was always
Speaker 1: wagged though it was chickens. My mouth likes it. Wow
Speaker 1: dry On a second, why are you judging me because
Speaker 1: my showing I can is my time to get back
Speaker 1: at you? I not. I just love to just say
Speaker 1: it because it just felt good. Jill, all right, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not really it was I didn't know what you're
Speaker 1: gonna say. It was just fun to It was just
Speaker 1: fun to have you all here and and and rash
Speaker 1: you a little bit because of how much you give
Speaker 1: me such a hard to know where is the thing.
Speaker 1: Let me clarify something. You hard time. I have to
Speaker 1: start your ego. No, when I say she gives me
Speaker 1: a hard time, what our first couple of sessions, Like
Speaker 1: if I didn't have the confidence that I had in myself,
Speaker 1: she would have crushed me. Don't scare people, I mean
Speaker 1: the session, would you? Well? I told she was like, well,
Speaker 1: I want you to write stuff down, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I am, I was writing it down. Is what she
Speaker 1: tells me is it's unbelievable. Makes me think right, because
Speaker 1: I didn't go to school to be to do communications.
Speaker 1: I didn't go to school for I didn't even think
Speaker 1: i'd be doing it today, right. And so there are
Speaker 1: some technical things that if you have not been schooled
Speaker 1: on it, you don't know. Now you learned them, but
Speaker 1: you you were starting from scratch. I was from scratch,
Speaker 1: like box and milk or or water, that's how scratch.
Speaker 1: It was like literally just baby steps. She went in
Speaker 1: like a true athlete and just went in full go.
Speaker 1: And it took me back a little bit because I
Speaker 1: wasn't expecting, you know, a. I was expecting her to
Speaker 1: be to be honest, a little bit gentler, and she wasn't.
Speaker 1: We go up and she turns on the film. So
Speaker 1: we're skyping, and the whole time I'm like, I was
Speaker 1: skyping this person and and my agent, Hey, I think
Speaker 1: you really like this. She's really good, and I'm coming
Speaker 1: because I had someone before and we were doing some
Speaker 1: stuff and I'm like, you can't wait. You're trying to
Speaker 1: be too just coach me, And so it didn't really
Speaker 1: work because they were the way they were doing things,
Speaker 1: that was their style. I picked up some things that
Speaker 1: I can use and this, some other things whatever. Well
Speaker 1: with Jail the first session, she was just so on
Speaker 1: me and then she so we skype and she's playing
Speaker 1: back my film. And as she's playing it back, what
Speaker 1: are you thinking on this, Steve? And I'm kind of like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: here's what I wanted to say. I don't remember what
Speaker 1: I was thinking in two months ago. Hell I really remember.
Speaker 1: I mean, unless I write it down, I'm not going well.
Speaker 1: Last Thursday I had tuna, and a week before that
Speaker 1: I had I don't know, my belly knows. What we
Speaker 1: had wasn't healthy or unhealthy. So she's winding it, rewinding it.
Speaker 1: What were you thinking on this? What were you trying
Speaker 1: to spit out? Spit it out? Man like? She just
Speaker 1: hit me and wow, I don't really think that those
Speaker 1: were my words. That's how I felt. You were saying
Speaker 1: it right, And here's why, here's why you're an athlete,
Speaker 1: and when you played, what was the easiest way for
Speaker 1: you to go see what you were doing right or
Speaker 1: wrong on the field? You had to go sit in
Speaker 1: in film? Right? Yes, and so what I have to
Speaker 1: do with somebody like you, who is a huge personality
Speaker 1: on TV works for a huge network, but has that
Speaker 1: athlete mentality. Is I now have to adjust and say,
Speaker 1: all right, how can I break this down frame by
Speaker 1: frame for him so that not only that he gets it,
Speaker 1: he gets it and takes it back to the field
Speaker 1: and goes and does it better. Ye, but I get it.
Speaker 1: It just wasn't I appreciate you today and then at
Speaker 1: the moment a little back because first of all, you
Speaker 1: weren't expecting probably that from It had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with your sport that you did or didn't play, and
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with your sex. I haven't played
Speaker 1: the sport, but it's like I'm coming at you. You listen,
Speaker 1: there's nobody knows a game of football more than you.
Speaker 1: You are the expert. You know hands down so much
Speaker 1: about the game that what my job is is to
Speaker 1: get it out of you. And I had to establish
Speaker 1: in that very first session how it was going to
Speaker 1: be so that you trusted me. So what did you
Speaker 1: see in Steve as an endless from the from the
Speaker 1: very initial session, I think he can actually be one
Speaker 1: of the best ever on television. And I told his
Speaker 1: agent that, I said, he has all of the tools
Speaker 1: to be literally not just another NFL guy going to
Speaker 1: the bow right. We we've seen that a million that
Speaker 1: that song has been played million times. But hands down
Speaker 1: the personality, the intelligence, the knowledge on the game, but
Speaker 1: also how he encompasses his everyday life and what he
Speaker 1: does in preparation with his families, his charities, his things.
Speaker 1: When you have that more of a soulful approach to
Speaker 1: everyday life, you can put that into your work. And
Speaker 1: when I met him, I mean I knew it was
Speaker 1: I knew who he was. I knew just the peripheral.
Speaker 1: But when in that first session, when we started talking
Speaker 1: and I started to get right off the bat kind
Speaker 1: of what he was made of, I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I can I can make this guy a star. Not
Speaker 1: that he wasn't already, but if I was like I could,
Speaker 1: if he listens any trusts, I can make him so
Speaker 1: much better on TV that people are gonna want him
Speaker 1: and and and we're doing that. I think clearly the
Speaker 1: proofs in the pudding. But yeah, I know he I
Speaker 1: think he can be one of the best ever on
Speaker 1: time with me. So that my duty. But she was
Speaker 1: hard on you. Thank you, Jill. We have to take
Speaker 1: a break and the morning thing, we gotta pay some bill.
Speaker 1: You got checks. I love cut to It, and I
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Speaker 1: us wherever you listen to podcasts. I got all my
Speaker 1: answers questions. Um, yeah, I got all my questions answered.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm here for, a brother, cut to a
Speaker 1: Podcast dot Com. You know, I have to give you
Speaker 1: credit there is there were some things inside of me
Speaker 1: that I didn't know it was there, and so why wow,
Speaker 1: I continue to work with you. It is the improve
Speaker 1: on camera presence, but more it has allowed me to
Speaker 1: be okay with the uniqueness of how I think. And
Speaker 1: that's why is why this podcast is where it is
Speaker 1: today is because of the great team I have around me,
Speaker 1: but also people like you, like KBS in my life
Speaker 1: that has said hey, you can be you, you know,
Speaker 1: just harness it a different way. This is the opportunity
Speaker 1: to do that is dive deeper into who people are. Um,
Speaker 1: what they what? What are they made of? Right? And so, uh,
Speaker 1: that's what we want to know about you, Jill. And
Speaker 1: who's your childhood sports team growing up? My childhood sports
Speaker 1: team growing up were the Celtics and Notre Dame. M hmmm.
Speaker 1: Uh why Irish family. I grew up in an Irish
Speaker 1: Catholic family, you know, blue color, working class montana. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, we grew up. We didn't grow up with
Speaker 1: a lot. I mean it was, you know, a contrary
Speaker 1: to popular belief. I wasn't born with the whole set
Speaker 1: of silver flatware in my mouth. Um. But we we
Speaker 1: just grounded out. And and when you're growing up and
Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of money, you you appreciate
Speaker 1: the things that you you can watch or that you
Speaker 1: can see. And being able to watch those teams on
Speaker 1: TV it was a treat. You know. Now we have
Speaker 1: so much, there's just so much access to everything. It's
Speaker 1: just overload. But when I was a kid, it's like, man,
Speaker 1: we could watch the Old Lake or Celtics series. Come
Speaker 1: on it. To me, it just doesn't get any better
Speaker 1: than that. And I, you know, I'm an Irish kid,
Speaker 1: and you you learn to really appreciate and live your roots.
Speaker 1: And so it was the Celtics and Notre Dame football. Um,
Speaker 1: and the fact that I didn't go to Notre Dame
Speaker 1: broke my mother's heart. But Notre Dame's track and field team, no,
Speaker 1: no disrespect to them, that it's an incredible institution. But
Speaker 1: I I the PACT ten at the time was the
Speaker 1: best track and field conference out there. So I didn't
Speaker 1: go to Notre Dame. You said you didn't grow up
Speaker 1: with a lot. Yeah, but but not a lot at all?
Speaker 1: What is Jtgomery journey or definition of a lot? Because
Speaker 1: there are people listening and there are people in studio
Speaker 1: who not a lot varies. Yeah, yeah, um, I'll be
Speaker 1: And that's a that's a great point. It's a great question. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, we grew up in and I grew up
Speaker 1: in low income housing. My parents my parents were divorced. Um,
Speaker 1: we'd spend the school years with my mom, summers with
Speaker 1: my ad um. But my mom was a nurse raising
Speaker 1: three kids, and and we lived on what what most
Speaker 1: people called, at least in Montana, you know, the wrong
Speaker 1: side of the tracks. It was low income housing. Um,
Speaker 1: there wasn't there wasn't a lot of extra There wasn't
Speaker 1: you know, cars at fifteen and and you know, new
Speaker 1: school clothes every year and stuff like that. It was
Speaker 1: you know, my mom would work and we would come
Speaker 1: home from school and make a snack, which would have
Speaker 1: been maybe a bowl of cereal or something, and then
Speaker 1: she come home and we'd have a very simple dinner.
Speaker 1: And there was times when birthday parties didn't have cake,
Speaker 1: birthday parties didn't have anything but my sisters in a
Speaker 1: birthday card. Um. And you really learned to appreciate the
Speaker 1: things around you, you know, going outside and we played
Speaker 1: in irrigation ditches, we played in fields, we played in trees. Um.
Speaker 1: There was you know, there's just there wasn't brand new
Speaker 1: bikes at Christmas and things like that that kids had.
Speaker 1: But that I think a lot of people take for granted,
Speaker 1: but that was my definition of not a lot. Growing
Speaker 1: up in low income housing and you have your neighbor
Speaker 1: kids that you play with and your sisters and you know,
Speaker 1: my mom worked her ass off and my dad was
Speaker 1: retired military, um and and growing up that way, I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, looking back, I wouldn't have done anything
Speaker 1: different because man didn't make me tough. It made me
Speaker 1: a survivor, and it made me learn how to no
Speaker 1: matter how many times stuff didn't go my way, or
Speaker 1: I got knocked down and I was an athlete and
Speaker 1: I would lose, or I wanted to be the best.
Speaker 1: I just came back with just relentless pursuit. And and
Speaker 1: it's because I grew up that way. I think if
Speaker 1: I would have grown up in a you know, both
Speaker 1: parents married, both parents working cars at fifteen, you know what,
Speaker 1: what what would be equivalent to WiFi nowadays? Back then,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have had the path that I had. You know,
Speaker 1: I think our tids and I'm saying my kids, but
Speaker 1: I think our kids, especially in this pandemic. There are
Speaker 1: kids who are looking at this pandemic as the worst
Speaker 1: thing in knowing the mankind, and it is pretty bad.
Speaker 1: They're also a generation to this day, right now that
Speaker 1: they can stand up ten years from now and say,
Speaker 1: we are the generation that came through a pandemic. We
Speaker 1: are a generation that we have succeeded and been through
Speaker 1: a lot, and we come up out of this better
Speaker 1: and stronger. But instead, suicide rate is alcoholism, is domestic violences.
Speaker 1: There's a ton of things that are up. But you know,
Speaker 1: it isn't up our ability to check in with each other, right,
Speaker 1: to have conversations, have conversations, Have conversations not be transactional.
Speaker 1: And we're still operating in the Instagram transaction and the
Speaker 1: TikTok likes, the the snapchat stuff, and and this generation
Speaker 1: is all about exposing, all about tablettelling, but none of it,
Speaker 1: it's really about bill, none of its leaving the spaghetti
Speaker 1: the leftovers, right, Spaghetti and chili are so much better
Speaker 1: days after and next day. Yes, but the generations want
Speaker 1: they wanted hot, spicy right now. But you gotta let
Speaker 1: you gotta let that those seasons get up in there
Speaker 1: and sitting chilling, going room temperature out of room temperature, freezing,
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But these kids don't want that they
Speaker 1: wanted today right now. And that's what I think growing
Speaker 1: up in the generation that we grew up in without
Speaker 1: the technology that we have. And technology has been a
Speaker 1: huge part of this, But the access for me is
Speaker 1: nobody needs the amount of access that we have right now.
Speaker 1: And and and Steve you know this just as well
Speaker 1: as I do, and Fellows you probably do too. You
Speaker 1: can't go on anywhere where someone's not going to have
Speaker 1: a camera on you, and you can't go and hang
Speaker 1: out with your boys in a bar, shoot the ship
Speaker 1: and be talking about what you want to talk about
Speaker 1: in the manner that you want to talk about it with,
Speaker 1: not somebody having a cell phone camera and you catching
Speaker 1: it and then it ends up on Sports Center or
Speaker 1: Twitter or something going viral. The access that we have
Speaker 1: to everything, I think has made our children nowadays they
Speaker 1: have no social braces, They have no idea how to communicate.
Speaker 1: I mean when we grew up, we were My father
Speaker 1: was in the military and he the manners, the table
Speaker 1: manners are huge in our family, and we were we
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot, but what we did have were manners, morals,
Speaker 1: and boy, you lived by the Golden rule and you
Speaker 1: treated every single person that you came across the way
Speaker 1: that you wanted to be treated, and if you didn't,
Speaker 1: you got your ass looked and and you get a
Speaker 1: community one too. It wasn't just the cousins. Yes, Pauline
Speaker 1: could give me a weapon like you got free reign
Speaker 1: like it really was. I think what we're all saying
Speaker 1: is it was a village. I don't feel there's mentality anymore.
Speaker 1: Like remember back in the day, if you want to
Speaker 1: go play with your boy, you want to go play
Speaker 1: with your best friend or your girlfriend, you have to
Speaker 1: go and not on the door. On the door for
Speaker 1: me here you can don't come out and play. You
Speaker 1: get so much about your upbringing and growing up in Montana.
Speaker 1: How did that shape your perspective on how you see
Speaker 1: the world today. It has shaped my perspective on how
Speaker 1: I see the world as the limits for me as
Speaker 1: a person don't exist. Um, I can do anything. I
Speaker 1: can help anybody do anything. And I want other people
Speaker 1: to have that perspective of cut out the media, cut
Speaker 1: out you know the technology that the things we see
Speaker 1: on the news, the things were being fed and go
Speaker 1: into what you have in your heart and your soul
Speaker 1: in your mind, and you can go and you can
Speaker 1: achieve anything. Some my parents and they called it a Gillism.
Speaker 1: If they wanted me to do something, they would tell
Speaker 1: me I couldn't do it. They're like, yeah, I bet
Speaker 1: you can't do that because they knew that once I
Speaker 1: got challenged, like you're not gonna tell me what I
Speaker 1: can and can't do, and and that so so growing
Speaker 1: up in Montana and having that very kind of salt
Speaker 1: to the earth and the people that are there as
Speaker 1: salt of the earth, Montana is amazing. And you you
Speaker 1: you look at it as Wow, there's no ceiling on
Speaker 1: what I can do. And I just took that ball
Speaker 1: and ran with it. In every facet of my life,
Speaker 1: I think we skipped over something. But you know, just
Speaker 1: kind of tell us, you know, where are you from
Speaker 1: in a place you call your hometown. So I it's
Speaker 1: a little town called Anaconda, Montana. Anaconda like the snake. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was born in a mining town called Butte, which
Speaker 1: is twenty miles from Anaconda. I grew up in Anaconda
Speaker 1: through just like the first or second grade, and my
Speaker 1: parents had divorced, and then I moved to Billings, Montana,
Speaker 1: which is kind of on the kind of more central
Speaker 1: eastern side of the state, and lived the school years
Speaker 1: with my mother, and then I would go back and
Speaker 1: I'd lived the summers with my father in Anaconda. So
Speaker 1: when we when we grew up, Anaconda's home. When I
Speaker 1: go home, it's Anaconda. My my aunts and uncles, my
Speaker 1: grandparents were there before they died. Um My childhood friends,
Speaker 1: the little neighbor kids, the Stirregars were always there. Um
Speaker 1: And so when I go home, I go there, and
Speaker 1: then also Missoula, because we spent a lot of time
Speaker 1: in Missoula. But you know, it was a mining town.
Speaker 1: It was a small, blue collar mining town. Now it's
Speaker 1: a retirement town, it's a ghost town. Um, but it
Speaker 1: was again, it was nothing but outdoor activities. Kicked the can.
Speaker 1: We'd go on hikes, and we'd played hot box. I
Speaker 1: played softball. I always played with the boys. I mean,
Speaker 1: I had a couple of female friends, but I was
Speaker 1: one of the boys growing up. And and I was
Speaker 1: you know, I was a little I was a rat.
Speaker 1: What sports did you fall in love with other than
Speaker 1: hot box? I grew up playing softball, and I grew
Speaker 1: up playing basketball, and then I ran track. Okay, but
Speaker 1: I actually was. I was better in basketball than I
Speaker 1: was running track. But I didn't go to school on
Speaker 1: a basketball scholarship. I chose track instead. What was so
Speaker 1: intriguing for you? And track? I could go a lot further?
Speaker 1: I felt, Um, you know, the w n b A
Speaker 1: wasn't super huge back in my day. Um And and
Speaker 1: I had some very nice scholarship offers to some very
Speaker 1: big schools for basketball. UM, but I knew that track,
Speaker 1: being a little more all year round, in the different
Speaker 1: areas and platforms I could go compete at at even
Speaker 1: at my age, I know I could compete at a
Speaker 1: higher level. UM, and I could go further. So I
Speaker 1: chose track, all right, finished finished this sentence. There being
Speaker 1: a female college athlete in the late nineties was ah, wow,
Speaker 1: that's a nice Uh, that's a nice little statement. Was
Speaker 1: life shaping. It allowed me to unlock other avenues of
Speaker 1: exposure for myself too, journey into other fields of not
Speaker 1: just athletics, but learning how to relationship build um, cultivate
Speaker 1: those relationships into business relationships, which I still use to
Speaker 1: this day. UM. And it just gave me a springboard
Speaker 1: into the next level of my life. Hm. Why do
Speaker 1: you think sports has that effect on individuals? We just
Speaker 1: had a conversation about this last week. Uh, how sports
Speaker 1: can shape you way past just how you perform on
Speaker 1: the field on the track. How much it builds life
Speaker 1: you you dance around it. Let's just cut to the chase.
Speaker 1: I said that you can tell you can you you
Speaker 1: know who's an athlete, who is it m based on
Speaker 1: how they deal with criticism or you know, controversy or
Speaker 1: just uh evaluation. Like in the business world, you could
Speaker 1: tell who is or isn't an athlete that played beyond
Speaker 1: the seventh or eighth grade. And that's because you have
Speaker 1: a you have a layer of skin on you that
Speaker 1: cannot be penetrated. You have thick skin that that it's
Speaker 1: like and you can't talk to athletes the way we
Speaker 1: were talked to back in the day now because everybody
Speaker 1: gets offended and everybody has this you have to you
Speaker 1: have to you know, coddle and do this stuff. It
Speaker 1: we were we were brought up in an era that
Speaker 1: you did your job no matter what it was, at
Speaker 1: all costs, and how you got better was to grit
Speaker 1: it out. There was no shortcomings. And the relationships that
Speaker 1: you built with your teammates when you're going through the
Speaker 1: trenches with somebody and and you know they're hurting and
Speaker 1: and and experiencing success and doubts and all the things
Speaker 1: that we go through as athletes and second guessing and
Speaker 1: questioning if we're we should be there or shouldn't be there,
Speaker 1: or how good we possibly are and oh my god,
Speaker 1: do I deserve this and not being able to handle prosperity.
Speaker 1: You learn how to harness all that, and you've got
Speaker 1: a crew around you that's going through the same stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you bet your ash. You're gonna be tough and you
Speaker 1: can take a lot of criticism and you have I
Speaker 1: think discipline and responsibility moving forward in life that most
Speaker 1: people don't have. Preach, girl, preach. So I did a
Speaker 1: little bit of research track at Kansas State. It is
Speaker 1: the it's formerly the Big Eight, but now it's the
Speaker 1: Big Ten. Well, I thought you're gonna come with a question,
Speaker 1: and if you knew this, I was gonna be really shocked.
Speaker 1: Oh well, what's the fun fact I didn't do his homework?
Speaker 1: Oh no, go ahead, finish your thought and then I'll
Speaker 1: tell you No, I'm okay now day that balloon just
Speaker 1: got deflated. What was so amazing about, uh, the Big Eight?
Speaker 1: Then that I think some mommy is not as challenging.
Speaker 1: There's one of two guys, But I mean they they were.
Speaker 1: Every team had had their their guy or girl. There
Speaker 1: was no sense of entitlement um back then. And and
Speaker 1: that's the thing that I see now as a as
Speaker 1: a broadcaster. You know, call him the world's best track.
Speaker 1: Um is when we grew up in the Big eight
Speaker 1: and and my last year was the very last year
Speaker 1: of the Big eight. And that's what I thought. You
Speaker 1: had this nugget. I was actually the very last Big
Speaker 1: eight champion. Wow, well I did see that that you
Speaker 1: were and then went to the Big the Big twelve.
Speaker 1: But my we didn't have what our coach said goes.
Speaker 1: There was no questioning him. There was no getting out
Speaker 1: of practice. There was no oh, well you know, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm having um, you know, issues with my boyfriend or
Speaker 1: I you know, I need to study for this. It
Speaker 1: was you get your you get all of your stuff
Speaker 1: done before you came to practice. And if you didn't
Speaker 1: have it done, we we had study table all that stuff.
Speaker 1: There was no sense of entitlement. You showed up, you
Speaker 1: did your work, and you competed your guts out. And
Speaker 1: now what I see is I had a conversation with
Speaker 1: my coach the other night. I still talked to my
Speaker 1: college coach. I talked to that man probably twice a month.
Speaker 1: And yeah he is. He is one of the biggest
Speaker 1: members on what I call my board of directors in
Speaker 1: my life. I call him about everything and I was
Speaker 1: having a conversation with him about just you know, the
Speaker 1: thing is that how COVID affected last year and now
Speaker 1: the scholarships that are going to happen and all this stuff,
Speaker 1: and and the entitlement that athletes, collegiate athletes that I
Speaker 1: see have that they just think it's automatic. It's like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to school and everything's gonna be taken
Speaker 1: care of and I really don't have to do as
Speaker 1: much work to learn. And when I competed in college,
Speaker 1: there there was none of that there. There was absolutely
Speaker 1: none of it. So it made us just grittier. I
Speaker 1: think it made us tougher. Now the talent level is
Speaker 1: a lot higher now. The talent level is insane now
Speaker 1: at collegiate athletics. It's you don't have one superstar on
Speaker 1: a team, You've got twenty. You look at teams now,
Speaker 1: especially in track and field, it's not like, oh, there's
Speaker 1: one two runner that's a stud. Every single event now
Speaker 1: is three and four deep with athletes that can run
Speaker 1: at the world level. So the talent level is so
Speaker 1: much higher now. However, that's been built over the last
Speaker 1: thirty years because of the access that younger athletes now
Speaker 1: had to better coaches, better nutrition, all the technology, all
Speaker 1: of the recovery stuff. We didn't have that. I mean, Steve,
Speaker 1: you know when you go back to your You're playing
Speaker 1: days before the NFL and you got done off the
Speaker 1: practice field. You didn't have cryo therapy. You went at
Speaker 1: your ass in an ice tub that was thirty five
Speaker 1: degrees and it was steel and it sucked. That's what
Speaker 1: we had. When I go back to my college, now,
Speaker 1: these guys in nutrition and they have a whole facility
Speaker 1: where each individual player has his favorites movie. Yeah, mill
Speaker 1: replace its movie. Now my problem is, I'm I'm paying alumni.
Speaker 1: Your ass can't catch thought, but you have right and
Speaker 1: so it's it's amazing at all the technology and all
Speaker 1: of things of advance. They have events, but it's still
Speaker 1: about the XS and oh right, at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it's like, if you don't perform, none of
Speaker 1: that stuff matters. But again, going back to the same concept,
Speaker 1: the way I grew up, man, we grew up tough.
Speaker 1: We grew up having to be the person that made
Speaker 1: the difference in our own lives. We didn't have a
Speaker 1: plea thoraw of team around us. That coddled us, cared
Speaker 1: for us, and they were like, rub some damn dirt
Speaker 1: on it and get your aft back out there. I
Speaker 1: think it's about that time. Just take a little breather. Good. Good,
Speaker 1: let's get down to do it. Good. Hey Gerard, why
Speaker 1: did you get that T shirt? You mean this thing? Oh? Yes,
Speaker 1: I got it from cut to a podcast dot com
Speaker 1: where we have exclusive merchandise. Shout out to our guys
Speaker 1: at seven oh four shot. But yeah, you can go
Speaker 1: on buy you a T shirt subscribed to us wherever
Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts. How did you get into broadcasting?
Speaker 1: I knew I always wanted to be a sports broadcaster.
Speaker 1: But when I came out of college, um, I knew
Speaker 1: I was gonna compete post grad. Um. I ran for
Speaker 1: Nike for five years, and I stayed at Kansas State
Speaker 1: and trained with my collegiate coach. But when I left
Speaker 1: all of that and I retired as a professional athlete,
Speaker 1: I moved to l A because I I never had
Speaker 1: a life. I was always representing somebody or some institution, right,
Speaker 1: So we didn't get to be jerks. We couldn't go
Speaker 1: to quarter beer and night on a Tuesday. We didn't
Speaker 1: get spring break. We didn't get any of that. I
Speaker 1: never had any of that growing up because I was
Speaker 1: always in athletics. And so I decided, all right, listen,
Speaker 1: I know I want to be a sports broadcaster, but
Speaker 1: let me go be as ratchet as I can before
Speaker 1: I decided to settle down and go to work. Because
Speaker 1: I knew the second I decided I was going to
Speaker 1: go into broadcasting, I had to eat, sleep, and drink it.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to party, I wanted to travel. I
Speaker 1: wanted to So I moved to l A and I
Speaker 1: took a job as a personal trainer and parted my
Speaker 1: ass off and I and I didn't have to worry
Speaker 1: about getting into trouble. And and let me tell you something,
Speaker 1: my first couple of years in l A. I enjoyed
Speaker 1: them to the hilt. It was it was. It was
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And then I decided, at the
Speaker 1: age of thirty six, that it was time to start
Speaker 1: this career because in sports broadcasting is not a job. Steve,
Speaker 1: you know this, This isn't a job. This is a career.
Speaker 1: I had a lot of different what I considered jobs.
Speaker 1: I was I was an agent, I was a manager.
Speaker 1: I had my own fitness company. But I knew that
Speaker 1: sports broadcasting was what I wanted to be long term
Speaker 1: and be the best at I just I did all
Speaker 1: the other stuff to build up to this, and and
Speaker 1: so I decided that thirty six, um, that it was
Speaker 1: time and I was gonna eat, sleep, and drink it,
Speaker 1: because that athlete mentality, you're gonna do it, You've got
Speaker 1: to do it that way. And I hired a talent
Speaker 1: development coach. I hired a me Now, I mean his
Speaker 1: name was Lou Riggs. God rest his soul. He was
Speaker 1: a broadcaster way back in the day, and he taught
Speaker 1: us sports broadcasting class at Santa Monica College, and um,
Speaker 1: he actually developed quite a few people that are on
Speaker 1: TV still today. And I hired him, and the guy
Speaker 1: kicked my ass weekend and week out. I took the
Speaker 1: class one summer, and then when I decided to be
Speaker 1: a broadcaster, you know, we didn't There was no FaceTime,
Speaker 1: there was no there was no zoom, there was none
Speaker 1: of this. And so I had to drive out to
Speaker 1: his house and seem Valley with my DVD that I
Speaker 1: cut myself in an editing bay, and he would rip
Speaker 1: me apart every week until I got my gig at ESPN,
Speaker 1: and then he just recorded my my games and and
Speaker 1: I'd still drive out there and sit in his living
Speaker 1: room and he ripped me apart. Now I see how
Speaker 1: it came back full Sarka, She's teaching out of old
Speaker 1: wounds continued, I'll tell you, I would have never ever
Speaker 1: thought that I would have my company now and do
Speaker 1: what I'm doing, and knowing that it stemmed from that,
Speaker 1: but it was because people asked me. They're like, well,
Speaker 1: how did how so old when you started? And I was,
Speaker 1: I mean shif, I was thirty six, and people are like, wait, what, like,
Speaker 1: you're going to go be a broadcaster? Like you don't
Speaker 1: Did you have broadcast journalism as a major? No? I
Speaker 1: didn't have any of that background nothing. I was as
Speaker 1: raw as they came. And they're like, you're too old,
Speaker 1: You're not gonna I'm like watch and and I went
Speaker 1: to him relentlessly, And I say this to this day.
Speaker 1: I'm going in my eleventh year at ESPN as a
Speaker 1: track and field analyst, and there is no way in
Speaker 1: hell I would be where I'm at had it not
Speaker 1: been for mu Rigs. How is the broadcasting business? Forward's
Speaker 1: females whether there's young Um you said by your words
Speaker 1: and you are old MH. I was, But you're reporting
Speaker 1: about men or women performance. You don't have to be
Speaker 1: a certain age to just report the news. There's there's
Speaker 1: age ism in I'm sure not just this industry, but
Speaker 1: of many industries with agents. Let's look at what's on
Speaker 1: television right now, right you you see younger, more attractive
Speaker 1: men and women than you see old, stodgy whatever. And
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying is at the age of thirty
Speaker 1: six starting this, I was told it was going to
Speaker 1: be an uphill battle because I was thirty six, not
Speaker 1: twenty six. I did that information impact you? It fueled
Speaker 1: me because I was like, watch this, I'm going to
Speaker 1: prove you wrong. There was a guy at Fox that
Speaker 1: sat me in his office and told me that I
Speaker 1: was starting this so late in my life and that, um,
Speaker 1: I didn't have enough experience. And I did go to
Speaker 1: broadcast journalism school. So I really had an uphill battle
Speaker 1: and I probably should rethink if I really wanted to
Speaker 1: do this. MHM already trying to talk you out of it,
Speaker 1: and and he and he was condescending about it. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to name who it is. What's so funny
Speaker 1: is that years later a member of his family was
Speaker 1: my runner on a network broadcast. He got up and
Speaker 1: had told me, uh, you know, year a couple of
Speaker 1: years after that, had said, oh, once I got hired
Speaker 1: by NBC to do all the track and everything, he
Speaker 1: brought me. I went in because I wanted this. I
Speaker 1: wanted this specific job. And I went back a couple
Speaker 1: of years later to try to get it again. And
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, well, what you've accomplished in the last
Speaker 1: eighteen months is just an incredible feat. And it was
Speaker 1: just so missachanistic. And I looked right at him and
Speaker 1: I said, I told you I was going to be
Speaker 1: back here. I said, it's not an incredible feat. I said,
Speaker 1: it's exactly what I told you I was going to do.
Speaker 1: And I and then years later a member of his
Speaker 1: family was my runner, and he came out onto the
Speaker 1: track and was in, you know, I was trying to work,
Speaker 1: and he was trying to talk to me, and I said,
Speaker 1: if you don't mind, I actually don't know how you
Speaker 1: got out here because you don't have a credential, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need you to leave mhm. And then you
Speaker 1: made his family member go get you coffee. No, I
Speaker 1: just I know it was it was. It was very
Speaker 1: nice to the family member, but it was just funny
Speaker 1: how he treated me in the beginning and then once
Speaker 1: he lost his job and was no longer in that position,
Speaker 1: how he tried to act towards me on the back end.
Speaker 1: And this is something that I tell every single one
Speaker 1: of my clients. And you've heard this out of my mouth, Steve,
Speaker 1: this I tell everybody. You'd be nice to everybody, every
Speaker 1: single person you work with, your A two, people that
Speaker 1: pull cable, people that do your makeup, people that bring
Speaker 1: you coffee, whatever it is. You'd be nice to every
Speaker 1: single person that you see on your way up because
Speaker 1: you're going to see him on the way down. Wow.
Speaker 1: That's great advice. I hold on to it. Yeah, now
Speaker 1: you do you you always do a great job with it.
Speaker 1: Not blowing smoke, but you respect every single person I'm
Speaker 1: on set with all the time. Jee when you give
Speaker 1: when you give us an oh shit moment in your
Speaker 1: broadcasting career, Yes, I will never forget this. It was
Speaker 1: per due at Ohio State and track football, all men's
Speaker 1: basketball Perdue Perdue Ohio State Men's basketball Super Tuesday Prime Time.
Speaker 1: I'm on the broadcast with Dave O'Brien and Dick By
Speaker 1: tal I had. I had talked to the s I
Speaker 1: D that I was gonna take produce head coach Matt
Speaker 1: Paynter at half, and I said, what tunnel are you
Speaker 1: coming out of? And he pointed to this to the
Speaker 1: tunnel on one side. Well, where I was sitting. You
Speaker 1: go position yourself with like a minute left in the half,
Speaker 1: in the corner so you can grab the coaches he's
Speaker 1: coming off. It was the exact opposite corner of the arena.
Speaker 1: I am. I am diagonal across the court and I
Speaker 1: the horn goes off and they start walking just to
Speaker 1: the opposite tunnel. You see the wide shot if you
Speaker 1: can find this game, you see the wide shot of
Speaker 1: the court, and you see me in Stiletto's sprint kitty
Speaker 1: corner across the entire court. And I grabbed coach Painter
Speaker 1: right as he's stepping off of the of the little
Speaker 1: cement thing. And he didn't know he was getting interviewed,
Speaker 1: So I don't know if the s I D dropped
Speaker 1: the ball or not. And I got him and go
Speaker 1: coach right as Dave O'Brien's tossing to me, and he
Speaker 1: turned out and goes, damn it, Jill, you're gonna tell
Speaker 1: me you're gonna interview me and Dave bows and Jill's
Speaker 1: with coach Painter and I'm like, like, coach, and I
Speaker 1: thought I thought of a tight question, but I was
Speaker 1: so rattled and he screamed at me. Now the screen,
Speaker 1: he didn't scream at me. It wasn't on tape, but
Speaker 1: the timing of Dave tossing it to me and Matt
Speaker 1: yelling at me, I said, I was like, oh, but
Speaker 1: I finished the interview. I conducted it. It was tight,
Speaker 1: it was clean, but it was it was That was
Speaker 1: a very big oh moment, Jela. Last segment is called
Speaker 1: the Deep Three, and they're just three questions where we
Speaker 1: allow our guests just go to a deeper level. So
Speaker 1: Smitty give her the first question. Jie you you you
Speaker 1: run track, gymnastics, basketball, You've been around football, track, feel
Speaker 1: you have covered everything. If I can give you a
Speaker 1: mulligan in your professional life, what would you read to up? Uh?
Speaker 1: I would read to up my collegiate athletic career, and
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take it as serious as I did, I
Speaker 1: would have enjoyed it better. Instead of constantly criticizing myself,
Speaker 1: I just would have let up and not have taken
Speaker 1: it so serious. So that internal dialogue was was fierce.
Speaker 1: Mhm it was. I think it inhibited me from being
Speaker 1: even more successful as an athlete. Um. However, on the
Speaker 1: flip side of it, because it did happen and I
Speaker 1: could reflect on it when I walked away from the sport,
Speaker 1: It's set me up to be more success full in life,
Speaker 1: in the in the adventures that came in front of
Speaker 1: me because I lightened up. Mm hmm. What's a milestone
Speaker 1: in your career that you'd like to achieve? I want
Speaker 1: to be the head of talent development at a network,
Speaker 1: So question to a what's a mouston in your personal
Speaker 1: life you'd like to achieve? I? You know, I would
Speaker 1: like to be m looked at as somebody that has
Speaker 1: been a huge influence for others. I think that just
Speaker 1: when people talk about me, I think the milestone would
Speaker 1: be you know she, she really really was an influence
Speaker 1: in my life. She helped me she I think that
Speaker 1: would be a huge moles on for me, is just
Speaker 1: to be looked at as that type of a relevant figure.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. What's your parents both of your parents have
Speaker 1: instilled in you what you guys dealt with obviously with
Speaker 1: the divorce and what in how they they spent their
Speaker 1: time parenting your your siblings, quality of life, that you
Speaker 1: are going to come up against people that have more
Speaker 1: money than you are, more successful than you are, more
Speaker 1: famous than you have things that you don't have. And
Speaker 1: on the flip side of that, you're going to come
Speaker 1: up against people that don't have what you have and
Speaker 1: have struggles and need help and and no matter what,
Speaker 1: the quality of life is the golden rule, and you
Speaker 1: treat people the way that you want to be treated,
Speaker 1: regardless of what they have or they don't have. That
Speaker 1: everybody's quality of life and needs to be respect did
Speaker 1: that's aweso? Can I? Can I finish the question now? Okay?
Speaker 1: So what's your parents have instilled in you on how
Speaker 1: they did it? What do you think they will say
Speaker 1: about Jill Montgomery today? Um, that I did it my way.
Speaker 1: They call it gillis ms. I never I always danced
Speaker 1: to the beat of my own drum. I never got married,
Speaker 1: I never had kids. I didn't do what my sisters did.
Speaker 1: I never did what the the norm did, and I
Speaker 1: think that they knew that I was always going to
Speaker 1: be different and no matter what I did, no matter
Speaker 1: what I said I was going to do, I did it.
Speaker 1: My way has been honor and privileged, especially for me
Speaker 1: because Gerard has been We've been in an office and
Speaker 1: Gerard has heard I've had the close has heard, I've heard,
Speaker 1: I've heard a couple of you heard a couple of sesssions.
Speaker 1: And He's like, brush, she wouldn't line at all. All
Speaker 1: of this is authentic. He's like, who is talking to you?
Speaker 1: Like that? They have allowed me to sharpen my craft
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