1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: The fields on a group proudly presents Huddle Up with 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. J P. Shacker, John Ojer and NFL Network 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: analyst and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: on George Jackson Hill Jack Wars. Everything's got to be 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: about the future, has got to be about tomorrow and 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: bringing all that into focus as we you know, attack 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: the season. Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks starts right now. 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: Welcome into another edition of the Huddle Up Podcast. Today's Wednesday, 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: April twenty J P. Shadrick with the NFL Network analyst 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, Jaguars dot Com senior writer John Oser. Subscribe 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: to the official Jaguars podcast Network and give us a 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: listen on the podcast page imagine that Jaguars dot Com 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: or go on to iHeart Radio, Apples, Spotify or wherever 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: you get your podcast and give us a download of 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: comment and a five star rating. Happy Wednesday, Bucky. But 16 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: I gotta start today with John Oser. He walked in 17 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: hot a moment ago, trying to make it to the 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: stadium in time for this podcast. John, what happened? Well, 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: it was a jumbo shrimp game. JP. You know you're 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: from here with my league baseball in this town a 21 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: little bit. Yes Wednesday, business Person Special were in Springfield, 22 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: So I gotta try to make a left through the 23 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: Jumbo Shrimp traffic that's not there. And then all of 24 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: a sudden, I come to find out they've built a 25 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: new traffic pattern on Bay Street that was like a 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: month ago. I'm trying to turn, well, I haven't turned 27 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: left on that, I've turned right a lot. I didn't 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: know you couldn't turn left. And then I get behind 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: this guy who you know, he's looking at the Jumbo 30 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: Shrimp game and it appears he's never seen traffic before. 31 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: So I was a little late coming in. And then 32 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: they closed an entrance because of the Football Performance Center. 33 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: He can't sneak through. There's only one real option to 34 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: get in on a Shrimp game. If you're coming from Springfield. 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: There's only one option to get to the Jaguar. Same 36 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: that's said, Is it me or does it feel like 37 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: we're dragging to get it? It feels like the draft 38 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: at this point to me is taking forever to get here. 39 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: Maybe that's because guys, I've been knee deep in it 40 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: for two weeks. Yeah, Bucky is the same way. I'm 41 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: sure you're in it every day or is it coming 42 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: up fast or slower? How are you feeling about I 43 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: don't know, it's just coming up, you know what I'm saying. 44 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: I'd be glad when we kind of settle and see, 45 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: I think this draft is different because star power or 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: lack there of at the top, and so because there 47 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: hasn't been like the excitement like last year there was 48 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: excitement over Trevor. Previous years have been excitement over a 49 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: number of quarterbacks or elite or premier pass rushers or 50 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: playmakers and those things. This class is a very good class, 51 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: but I don't know if it necessarily has a star 52 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: power of other classes. And because of that, I feel 53 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: like we've been talking about the same names over and 54 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: over and over again trying to catch a bus, and 55 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: that buzz hasn't necessarily caught on a speare like wildfire. 56 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: Kind of reminds me a little of right. I mean, 57 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: it was what Johnson, but there weren't like quarterbacks at 58 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: the very top of that. I'm getting a ton of 59 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: comparisons to that too. But my sense, Buck, you see, 60 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: if you agree with this, and and it's again I 61 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: didn't go back and look at at Jokel's YouTube videos 62 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: in college. That's what scouting is these days. You know, 63 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: we got j it's YouTube the film. It's not your film. Uh. 64 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: I mean, but if somebody wants to do the film 65 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: for you, I'm moren't happy to look at the clips. 66 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: I look, if you can boil it down to nine 67 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: minutes for me, that works for me. Yeah, you're googling 68 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: YouTube to but it uh. That year, there was a 69 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: perception that it was a weak draft. This year, I 70 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: haven't heard from scouts and people that it's a weak draft. 71 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: It's just a lack of star power. And I think 72 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: there's a difference. I don't think you're going to draft 73 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: one of you like there was a worry that year. 74 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: I remember that you could draft a guy at the 75 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: top and really not be getting a great, great player. 76 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: This year, I don't get the impression. I get the 77 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: impression people think these guys are pretty good. There's just 78 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: no quarterback. Yeah. And I think a couple of things. 79 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: I think the quarterback sizzle is real because I think 80 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: we've changed the way we view quarterbacks. Um. I think 81 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: we on our side, media side, we created the narrative 82 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: that a push quarterbacks up, you gotta draft him high 83 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: if you're gonna get them, YadA, YadA, YadA. And I 84 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: really think that the tipping point has been two things. One, 85 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: when the money went over forty million dollars for quarterbacks, 86 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: it changed the level of expectation from your starting quarterback 87 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: and what you want, because if you're gonna pay that 88 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: kind of money, you want to make sure that the 89 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: performance equates to that. The days of just giving the 90 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: quarterback a sizeable sun because he's the guy that takes 91 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: the snap from the center, I think we're done with that. 92 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: And I think the postseason also changed the way that 93 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: we view quarterbacks. When you see Josh Allen and Pat 94 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: Mahomes and Joe Burrow, UM, you see the quarterback play 95 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: that it was required to make it to the Super Bowl, 96 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: and you saw so many young guys kind of playing 97 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: to that standard. I think what you had was a 98 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: lot of teams um looking at their own quarterback situations 99 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: and looking at this draft and measuring those quarterbacks up 100 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: against the young stars in the game, the Herbert's and 101 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: all those guys. And if you're going to take a 102 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: quarterback and that quarterback cannot compete and they shootout against 103 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: those guys. What's the point of taking up because you 104 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: can be right back at the drinking hole again, the 105 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: watering hole again, having to go and figure out if 106 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: you can get one. And so it just kind of 107 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: raised the standard. I say, it's really been a market 108 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: correction that you're no longer just going to accept mediocrity 109 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: at the position. When it's time to pay, you're gonna 110 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: look for a star, because if you don't have a star, 111 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: you don't have a chance. I have a question for 112 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: the scout, and it's a little off the top of 113 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: this feels like a free wheeling day to me, right, 114 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: and this isn't really a quarterback question, but it's something 115 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: that I'm sure you and DJ. I called Daniel. I 116 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: called Daniel Jeremiah DJ because but I'm sure you guys 117 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: have talked about it, because I heard him talking about 118 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: it somewhere else. This whole concept of offensive line, that 119 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: teams are looking at offensive line a little differently. You 120 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: don't necessarily have to have to follow that Cowboys model 121 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: of three or four number one draft picks. And the 122 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: interesting concept that I think I heard him use was 123 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: teams are now looking at you can build an offensive 124 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: line with the idea that it's as good as its 125 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: worst part, meaning as long as you don't have a 126 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: breakdown guy as your fifth guy, that you don't necessarily 127 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: need elite guys with an offensive line. You're probably better 128 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: serve to speak about that than me. But talk me 129 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: through that concept because it makes a little sense to me. 130 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: So the theory and the prenciple is no tomato cans. 131 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: Like the one thing that you can have is you 132 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: don't necessarily need all a plus is around the board. 133 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: But you can't have any fs. You can't have any 134 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: like noticeable weak links where everyone in the stadium knows 135 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: that this guy is the tomato cans, he's the one 136 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: that's get your your quarterback killed. But um, and I 137 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: think a lot of it sometimes depends on the level 138 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: of quarterback that you have behind that offensive line. Let's 139 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: look at the Super Bowl, the Super Bowl, the Cincinnati Bengals, 140 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: who everyone in the NFL knows that they were struggling 141 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: on the offensive line. They were a Super Bowl participant, 142 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: and some could say reasonably they should have won the 143 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: super Bowl. They were three minutes away from winning the 144 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: super Bowl when an offensive line that didn't have any 145 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: notable players and had some weak links. The l A 146 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: Rams also don't have any stars on their offensive line. 147 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 1: For as much as we made the Super Bowl about 148 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth and his farewell song and that they didn't 149 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: have any great players on that offensive line, but the 150 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: quarterback play was terrific. But then when you cast your 151 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: gaze out outside on the perimeter, there were a bunch 152 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: of stars, a lot of star power for the Rams 153 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: on the perimeter, Cooper Cup or b j uh since 154 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: then being Jamaar, Chase, te Higgins, Tyler Board, all those players. 155 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: And so now what you're saying is, if I have 156 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: a good court an A plus quarterback, I have really 157 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: good skill guys. If my offensive line is just okay 158 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: where they can get in the way, that might be 159 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: good enough to be able to get it done. And 160 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: that's why in the pecking order of marquee positions, I 161 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: think there's been a shift. It used to be where 162 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: you had to have the quarterback, the elite left tackle, 163 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: the pass rusher, and those things. Now I believe it's 164 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: the four ps, but in this order it's passer, pass rushers, playmakers, 165 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: and those playmakers are typically passing game playmakers wide receivers, 166 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: and then it's the past protective. I don't even know 167 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: if it's necessary to have an elite cornerback in today's game, 168 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: but if you got those p's accounting for, you have 169 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: a chance to put yourself in position. Because look at 170 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: the teams that are playing deep in the turn him it. 171 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if all of those guys had those 172 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: auxility positions um at an a level. Yeah, I couldn't 173 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: agree more, especially even sort of playing off your off 174 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: your cornerback comment to me drafting a safety or a 175 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: corner high anymore. If you've got an offense where the 176 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: quarterback can get rid of the ball and the wide 177 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: re series have time to make plays, cornerbacks only matter 178 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: for about three point five seconds or four seconds, and 179 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: then these guys are getting open because the rules are 180 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: so skewed toward offense. I do agree. I think we're 181 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: seeing and we're seeing a huge shift, and getting back 182 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: to the offensive line point, I wonder if that's not 183 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: playing a little bit into the decision at the top 184 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: that yes, you know, the offensive line here has been 185 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: maligned for so long. I don't think it's a bad 186 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: offensive line. I've said for years. The Colts offensive lines 187 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: that I covered, we're good. They weren't great. They were 188 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: no Tomato Cans, but they didn't have Jeff Saturday was 189 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: a pro bowler, but he was He was a pro bowler, 190 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: unsavvy and experience. He was a center. It wasn't an 191 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: elite offensive line because Peyton knew how to get rid 192 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: of the ball and get them into plays. They could 193 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: take advantage of what they could do. And I think 194 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: you know now, is Joe Burrow Peyton No, but that 195 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: you know, if you have a quarterback who can get 196 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: rid of the ball timely, not have the pass rush 197 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: be as much of a factor, not take huge sacks 198 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: when there's a breakdown, I think you can get by 199 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: with that. No tomato can theory makes perfect sense to me. 200 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: Uh And on that front, I just personally believe the 201 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: Jaguars offensive line is fine if there's functioning players around it. Yeah, 202 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: two things that you make the observations that I would say, 203 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: the better of the quarterback, the less of the need 204 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: for a high level offensive line. You can get away 205 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: with it. In a perfect world, you would like to 206 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: provide him with the best protection. But the better of 207 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: the quarterback particularly easily superstar quarterback. He can make everybody 208 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: else because it's the mental aspect of that, right, But 209 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: he can see what's coming Tom Brady for years and yeah, yeah, 210 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: he can eleve the performance of those because he can 211 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: handle everything and as he um understands the game and 212 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: masters the game and understands how to kind of play 213 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: the chess match, he can do that. I will say this, 214 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: when you're having the cornerback situation, I would prefer an 215 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: elite level safety over a corner um. And this actually 216 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: came from uh year old guy Bill Polian. We talked 217 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: a few years ago and he talked about the way 218 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: the game is changing. You need to have an elite 219 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: safety in the middle of the field, not just for 220 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: the passing game, but to deal with these athletic quarterbacks 221 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: that are running around and making plays. If you can 222 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: have a guy that you can drop in the box 223 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: who can match tight ends and blitz and check the 224 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: quarterback and do those things, I would say, kind of 225 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: like the Derwin James type, that is a difference maker 226 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: because now you have an eracer that you can use, 227 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: so he better be able to run. But you gotta 228 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: be a run You gotta be able. You gotta be 229 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: able to run. And I think that's the thing too. 230 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: In a perfect game, going all the way back, you 231 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: need one safety and I would say four corners on 232 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: the field, meaning that second safety needs to have corner 233 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: like footwork and athleticism. And then the other guy is 234 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: a nickel corner. So you're really playing one safety four 235 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: corners and you're able to lock down and be able 236 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: to play. Yes, I just think these great offenses these days, 237 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: I guess you can have as good as safety play 238 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: as you want. If the pass rush you didn't gett 239 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: home and the quarterback has five seconds run loose on 240 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: the running over, the guy's not gonna be a factor 241 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: no matter how good anyway. Yeah, do the Jaguars have 242 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: that Bucky on defense though? All that all those pieces 243 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: that you're looking for, No, they don't. And that's why 244 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: at the top of the board it's really important. Um, 245 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: we just talked about the pass rush, so you need 246 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: another complimentary pass rush to go with Josh Allen. Um 247 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: and maybe like having another guy will help Josh Allen 248 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: play at a higher level. And then you also and really, man, 249 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: you need three You need too on the outside, one 250 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: on the inside. You need to be able to affect 251 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback up the middle. Because John talked about three 252 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: point five seconds. Really, man, you look at Tom Brady 253 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: and those guys, it's two point five or less. The 254 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: ball is coming out, and so the best way and 255 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: the most effective way to kind of disrupt the quarterback 256 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: is right up the gut, right in the middle, right 257 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: between the a gaps, so he has to field the 258 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: pocket in his face, in his lap. So you have 259 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: to have someone inside that can create a pass rushing presence, 260 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: which is why Art and key Um and those guys 261 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: critical because the inside pass ors to way the Niners 262 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: played him. He gave them an inside pass rush. So 263 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: now you have him, you have someone on the outside 264 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: that can get after it gives you an opportunity. Now, 265 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's funny Jp that you know the game 266 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: has evolved. Yeah, it's a completely different game. Obviously there 267 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: was in the nineteen fifties, but Paul Brown used to 268 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: say it was quarterback and pass rusher. So it's still 269 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: if you have something that can affect the quarterback quickly, 270 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: that disrupts everything you can do, and if you've got 271 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: a guy who can control it offensively, the game on 272 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: that front. No matter how much it changes around it, 273 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: it's still the same. And I know JP is gonna 274 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: take us to a break or we're gonna transition, but 275 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: I gotta get this in because he said this. Um. 276 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: The reason why John is if you have a pass rush, 277 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: now you don't have to blitz, and so now you 278 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: can play zone and you can play coverage. You can 279 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: get home with four. The best thing is if you 280 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: can ever get home with four, you now gonna have 281 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: seven in coverage and you don't have to worry about 282 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: having a Jalen Ramsey tight on the perimeter. You can 283 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: play zone, you can rally in front, you don't let 284 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: the ball fly over the top of the head, and 285 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: you just rally and tack and run to the ball. 286 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: You have to have guys that can do it because 287 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: no one really wants to blitz all the time. You 288 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: would like to be able to say, hey, I got 289 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: my four is better than your front five, and we're 290 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: gonna find a way to get home. All the great 291 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: teams I've covered, which I would consider a couple of 292 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: Colts teams. I they were defined by Peyton, but Freeny 293 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,359 Speaker 1: math is those guys could get home and they affected 294 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: in the great Colts Patriots games that I played. You 295 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: know that I covered in the mid two thousands when 296 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: the Colts had the edge. It was because a the 297 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: offense was great, obviously, but when they got a lead, 298 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: those guys can get home infect the quarterback. I would 299 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: consider the obviously the only great Jaguars young courversince I've 300 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: been back two thousand and seventeen and could infect the quarterbacks. 301 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's still really hard to win at the highest, highest, 302 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: highest level without that. We'll come back in a moment 303 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: and here from Press Taylor, Jaguars offensive coordinator and Mike McCoy, 304 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: the Jaguars quarterbacks coach. The Jags are future focused and 305 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: ready for a new look in to join us at 306 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: the bank this season. It's Doug Peterson and Krevor Lawrence 307 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: lead to charge. Lock in your seats at Jaguars dot Com. 308 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: Slash tickets were called nine oh four six three three, 309 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: two thousand more after this welcome back to the Huddle 310 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: Up High Gash, JP, Shadrick Bucky Brooks, John Osier and 311 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: the Jaguars will host the two do Ball Draft Party 312 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: presented by Baptist Helf. It's Thursday, April six o'clock at 313 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: Daily's Place, live draft analysis, on stage appearances by Doug 314 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: Peterson and select Jaguars players, and then stick around for 315 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: the draft. We'll have our coverage on Jaguars dot Com 316 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: on the big screen. Lucky Brooks will be there with 317 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: Bells on. It's gonna be fantastic. Register at Jaguars dot 318 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: com slash Official Draft Party. Bucky's a little niffy, mentioned 319 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: Doug first. No, no, no, I was I was hoping 320 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: I could get a ticket. I just want to see 321 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: if I get a ticket to the party, it sounds 322 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: like a good deal. I want to make the party. 323 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: Then I want to hear I want to hear all 324 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: the analysis. I want to do that. I want to 325 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: have some orders and some of that stuff. What do 326 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: we serve down to a draft fartys that you know, 327 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: I've never been to a draft party like twenty plus 328 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: two years. What do you want? Yeah, it's whatever you like, Bucky. 329 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: I think you know you just have to request that 330 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: you at least can get whatever you want. I know 331 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: it's Florida. Does that mean I have to have Gator 332 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: or something like? That's a different route. What was the 333 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: last time you ate our gator, John, He's just probably 334 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: been a couple of decades. It's probably I've never I've 335 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: never had and I don't think I can get past. 336 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: It's a little gaming, but it's fine. I can't. I can't. 337 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: I still just just like chicken. It really just it 338 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: has the same texture, you know, like chicken. Either unbelievable. 339 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: What do you like? Yeah, I don't know if I 340 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: could do it. You know, I don't do it. You know, 341 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: me and Fritz North Carolina, that Pescterian I'm on the 342 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: Pescterian plan that much. You know what does that mean? Fish? 343 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: My h to be around about the Jaguars. We win 344 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: titles and audited other stuff. You know, plenty of fish 345 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: in the sea down here. Alright, So let's shift gears 346 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: and review a couple of conversations we had recently with 347 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: Jaguars coaches. We heard from Press Taylor on Jaguars Happy 348 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: Our RAYEO last week. After this podcast aired on Wednesday, 349 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: he showed up on Thursday on Jaguar's Happy Hour and 350 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: we got to ask him how it was with Trevor 351 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: so far in the meeting rooms. He's very mature, he asked, 352 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 1: and a lot of times. You know, we haven't had 353 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: a lot of football conversations, but he asked great questions, 354 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: so that that's always one of the things that you 355 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: know he's engaged. You know, you can kind of tell 356 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: by the questions that a guy asked of kind of 357 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: whether he likes it, where he's tracking, how he sees it, 358 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: Um and he he and really all the quarterbacks, Jake 359 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: and c J, they've done a great job with the 360 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: questions they asked, the response they're giving, the engagement they're giving. 361 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: They're now sorry to interrupt you press. So they're about 362 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: a week and a half end of the phase one. 363 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: That means officially talking xs and os and getting the 364 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: room the conversation going the right way. When your quarterbacks 365 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: asking questions and that kind of leads you into different things, Bucky, 366 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: it feels like, yeah, no, it does lead in different 367 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: things because you want your quarterback to be engaged. You 368 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: want your quarterback to um have a desire to have 369 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: a mastery of the system, because the more he masses 370 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: the system, uh, the better it is because now he 371 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: can play on instincts and awareness. He also can make 372 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: sure that everyone is on the same page. But before 373 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: he can take kind of like that leadership and ownership responsibility. 374 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: He has to kind of know what's going on. And 375 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: I think it's really important that Trevor is asking questions 376 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: so he can kind of understand the system like the 377 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: back of his hand. Yeah, I mean he's Uh, we've 378 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: said it before. We talked about it on Not Jaguars 379 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: Drive Time yesterday. He's got everything you want. I don't 380 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: know what it is about him that I could pick 381 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: out that will hold him back e following. Um, we 382 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: didn't see it enough last year, so I've got to 383 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: chalk that up to the chaos around him. He's when 384 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: he spoke, it's a couple weeks ago now that he 385 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: spoke to the media, so impressive and you can feel 386 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: when he speaks what Press Taylor is talking about, the 387 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: total engagement, the awareness of what it takes, uh, the 388 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: right questions. His mind's in the right place. Uh, It's 389 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: it's just hard to imagine him not taking a huge 390 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: step up for those reasons. I get that fans here 391 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: this and like, well, we've got to see it well 392 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: and until September we've got nothing to talk about except this. 393 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: But the mental part of it, which I think is 394 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: so important he's got and I think now that he's 395 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: with Press Taylor, particularly Doug Peterson Mike McCoy will talk 396 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: about in a second, he now I think has the 397 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: right environment to move those things in the right direction 398 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: at a rapid pace without things getting in the way. 399 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: If that doesn't help him mature, and not even mature, 400 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: it's not the right word I developed, then I don't 401 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: know what will. I mean, it feels like the right 402 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: group at the right time, the right head coach. We'll see. 403 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: But I'm not surprised to hear Press Taylor say that, 404 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: because that's what Trevor Lawrence is and to me, that's 405 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: what's gonna give him a chance, even more than the 406 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: physical ability. All the things we've seen that we all 407 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: call intangibles are tangible and it's what gives him a chance. 408 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the next seven eight months. I've 409 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: seen it happen. Let's hear again from Press Taylor and 410 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator. You know, Press has been around the 411 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: league for a long time and a number of different 412 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: roles quality control, a passing game coordinator, quarterbacks coach, and 413 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: he's finally an offensive coordinator and he's got a couple 414 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: of assistant Yeah, I know he's three, right, he made 415 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: it um so after a long scenic route. No, I'm kidding, 416 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: of course, no. But he's got obviously head coaches around him. 417 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson has done it. Mike McCoy has been in 418 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: the NFL. He's the quarterbacks coach, but relating to the 419 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: staff around him and many roles as he's had already 420 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: in his coaching career, I know how I liked being 421 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: treated in each of those roles, and and and what 422 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: kind of input I could provide and things like that. 423 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: So part of it's being clear in your communication with 424 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: what your expectation is for everybody. And and then at 425 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: the on top of that, with a lot of you know, 426 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: former quarterbacks and guys that have coach quarterbacks, are been 427 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: coordinators in this league. A lot of it's everybody putting 428 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: their egos side and realizing we we don't need to 429 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 1: do what we all did in the past, and this 430 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: is about putting our guys in the best position to 431 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: create the Jacksonville offense. That's what we're trying to do. 432 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: So it's it's different when you're finally the o c. Yes, 433 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: he's not calling the plays on Sunday. But he's putting 434 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: all this kind of together in one pot here, Bucky 435 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: and getting all these all this input from different levels 436 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: of the organization and and trying to figure that out 437 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: for the first time as a true offensive coordinator. I'm 438 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: curious how this, uh, this learning process goes for Press. 439 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: It seems like it's gone so far and is in 440 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: his career pretty well. It's going pretty well so far 441 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: in his career, but it's a huge learning curve. Like 442 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: when you get up to the point where, um, you're coordinating, 443 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: you're trying to manage not only people, but you're trying 444 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: to figure out game situation plays, Um, who do I 445 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: want to get the ball to How do I want 446 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: to get the ball to them? What do they like? 447 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: What's my quarterback? Like? That's a lot to manage, and 448 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: I think there'd be some growing pains, And I think 449 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: it will take maybe half of the season before he'll 450 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: admit he's probably a little more comfortable because there's one 451 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: thing to say like, oh, I'm ready for it. It's 452 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: another thing to have to do it and do it 453 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: in game action and make adjustments and manage the people 454 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: and do all this other stuff, but he has enough 455 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: resources and and and and people around him to be 456 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: good at it. And then, by the way, the head 457 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: coach is pretty good play caller, So you know, it 458 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: makes it a lot easier when you have those buffers 459 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: around because Mike McCoy has done it, Peter hasn't done it, 460 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: So you've got a lot of people that have been 461 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: able to do do this and organize it, and so 462 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: he has a lot of people that it can kind 463 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: of lean on. It feels like we're sort of bumping 464 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: up against the uh, too many cooks in the kitchen concept, 465 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: But which is I've gotten this question a lot from 466 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: people because there's so many offensive coordinators and so many 467 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: ex offensive coordinators. I would worry about that JP and 468 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: Bucky if Doug Peterson wasn't the guy. It feels to 469 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: me like if he has compiled a staff of people 470 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: that he's comfortable with and likes football, guys who sort 471 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: of take his approach. Talking to Mike McCoy last week, 472 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: he didn't strike me as a guy Mike McCoy's called plays, 473 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: he's been the guy, you know. It didn't strike me 474 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: as a guy who's, you know, trying to figure out 475 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: how much power he can get in this system. He 476 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: feels like a guy who wants to contribute where he 477 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: can and what he's wanted. I think guy Doug Peterson 478 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: will be the key in bringing Press Taylor along. Having 479 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: Jim Bob cooters uh input be the wrecked input, having 480 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: Mike McCoy's input be the correct input. Um. I understand 481 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: people who have asked me that I points a lot 482 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: of cooks in the kitchen. I m with Doug Peterson 483 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: being the person who that information is being funnel too 484 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: doesn't worry me much now that I've been around Doug 485 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. Good point, Um, I think I think 486 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of the way of the world. Like right now, 487 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: everything you're trying to do is installate the quarterback, and 488 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: so I think you want multiple layers around it. Now, 489 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: the key to being effective and working everyone has to 490 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: speak the same language, and the quarterback has to get 491 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: the same information and the same style from everybody. And 492 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: so however you elect to do who is primarily communicating 493 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: with the quarterback, like maybe you have to sift in 494 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: it like kind of sort of they'll allowed sift it 495 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: out until he gets it. But the only way it 496 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: can get messed up is if you have too many 497 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: people saying different things. That's when it messes up. But 498 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: they're all coming from the same system. They all have 499 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: a inherent knowledge of the offense. They all kind of 500 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: know where the objective is on every play and how 501 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: to do it. It can be comforting because the other 502 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: thing is an emotional game. Sometimes you want a layer 503 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: or a buffer between the head coach and the quarterback, 504 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: and you want someone who can take the quarterback off 505 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: to the side and just kind of talk to him 506 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: without the emotion. When I was in Green Bay, having 507 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: watched coach Homegren do it with Brett Farve, Andy Reid 508 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: would be the quarterback coach, and so before coach Mike 509 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: could get the bread far and he was like, I 510 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: got him, and we take him off to the side 511 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: and handle some of those conversations before it got contentious 512 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: and maybe acrimonious. And so you just want to have 513 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: enough layers that in the heat of the moment, the 514 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: quarterback doesn't get his feelings all bruised. He's able to 515 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: take the information process and still perform without it having 516 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: lingering effects with the relationship between he and the head man. 517 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: Didn't it feel like Mike McCoy can be that guy 518 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: pretty well too. Yeah, I think that's I think he's 519 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: the one, and I think he's the underrated higher and 520 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: all of this because in Mike McCoy, you're getting the 521 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: guy with a unique experience, not only as he played 522 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: the position. He has been a quarterback coach, he's been 523 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: a play caller. He's also been a head coach. Um. 524 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: There's a natural relationship between Doug Peterson and Mike McCoy 525 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: because we all were together in Green Bay at the 526 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: same time. So there's a mutual respect. So if anybody 527 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: understands exactly what Doug wants, Mike mccordy will understand it 528 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: because they're gonna speak the same language. And so I 529 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: think it's a huge benefit for Travor to be able 530 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: to kick his feet up in the office and talk 531 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: to coach McCoy and do all those other things, and 532 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: then for them to communicate in games. I'm curious to 533 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: see what it plays out, who is up in the box, 534 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: who's on the field, how they do that on game day. 535 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: All this stuff is essential. But no, to me, I 536 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 1: think the set up is perfect, and I think it's 537 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: a little different than it was last year, because I 538 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 1: felt like last year you're kind of piecing it together. 539 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: Good guys and Bevell and Brian Schottenheimer, but they're not 540 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: really coming from the same system that cousins this. I 541 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: feel like everybody's coming from the same thing. So the 542 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: communications should be on point and that's the most important 543 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: part of it. Let's hear from Mike McCoy, Jaguars quarterbacks coach, 544 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: sat down with Yes You Guess to John Osier on 545 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: the ozone podcast earlier this week, available in the Official 546 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: Jaguars podcast Network. McCoy has been out of the league 547 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: for two or three years, hanging out with the family, 548 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: doing the thing, but also looking around the NFL and 549 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: still getting ideas on offense. And I think that's one 550 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: thing when I look back the past couple of years, 551 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: to be able to really look um at a number 552 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: of teams and study certain teams and follow, you know, 553 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: certain coaches that I've worked with or that worked for 554 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: me when they've moved on. Something like Frank Reich, what 555 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: did he do when he went to Indie? How did 556 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: he kind of change or what additions did he make 557 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: to our system that we had built over the time 558 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: we're together. I think that's what kind of you every teams. 559 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: Every year you kind of look at it, Okay, here's 560 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: the foundation, this is who we want to be. And 561 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: then you look at okay, through free agency, through the draft, Okay, 562 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: do you still all have that personnel to fit the 563 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: scheme you want to run? And then you know what 564 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: type of players do you have and what new wrinkles 565 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: do you take from other places or some things like, hey, 566 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: you've always had in your system, but maybe you look 567 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: at it from last year and say, God, we didn't 568 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: run enough of this. So I think it's always evolving. 569 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: You're always looking to say, Okay, what is best for 570 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: our team today? Yeah, today is the most important thing 571 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: and not ten years ago. We've got to keep evolving. 572 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: That's what Press also was talking about this week, Bucky, 573 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: is you might find a route concept here that works 574 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: for a certain player on your team, but you may 575 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: not change the whole offense. But a little tweak here, 576 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: a little tweak there, and that's when your offense moves forward. Yeah. 577 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: It's funny because you have a bass system, you have 578 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: a framework um that serves as the foundation, but then 579 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: you have to tailored around the players that you have 580 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: and so um given the personnel and I and I 581 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: don't know if there's enough excitement that has been generated 582 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: on the outside about the personnel that the Jaguars have, 583 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: But I am look, if this is fantasy football on 584 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: I could give a nugget of advice, I would say, 585 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: go secure Evan Ingram in your in your leagues, because 586 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 1: I would expect Evan Ingram to put a monster numbers 587 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: in this offense. If you go back and track what 588 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: the tight ends have traditionally done in Doug Peterson's offense, 589 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: they put up big numbers, and the wide receivers they 590 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: catch passes, but it's almost as secondary to what the 591 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: tight end can do. I think what you're doing is 592 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: you're trying to take a bass system and fit it 593 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: to the personnel. What do I have? Okay, now I 594 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: have this person, what does he do really well? And 595 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: make it work? And I would say that adaptability has 596 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: been Doug Peterson's best trade as a play caller. How 597 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: he adapted the offense from Carson Wentz to Nick Foles 598 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: to Jalen Hurts. All of that is high level stuff, 599 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: and I think you do it with the others in mind. 600 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: But it has to be something that's very comfortable for 601 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: the quarterback. And so yeah, that there has to be 602 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: a lot of that that you're figuring out in mini 603 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: camping and training camp. Um. But it's exciting and I 604 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: think have enough guys with the acumen. Mike McCoy included 605 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: to be able to pull it off and asked Bucky 606 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: Uh about Evan Ingram here in a second, but before 607 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: we lose our train on Mike McCoy. Probably the most 608 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: interesting thing he said that applies to our conversation today 609 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: to me was how much he's looking forward to He's 610 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: been a coordinator, he's been a head coach, and he 611 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: was out of it for three years. Uh, but he 612 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: talked a lot in the podcast about his time in Carolina. 613 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,719 Speaker 1: He's still very good friends with Jake Delhome, who had 614 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: in Carolina. He is looking forward to just being in 615 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks room. It is a different experience to be 616 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: in that room, is compared to the offensive coording. You 617 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: talked about all the responsibilities you start getting when you're 618 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator the head coach. You don't develop quite 619 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: the same relationships as you do in a position group. Uh. 620 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: It just struck me that he is in the right 621 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: position for him at this time. He's looking forward to 622 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: getting into Trevor Lawrence, C. J. Beth thro the guys 623 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: in that quarterback's room. Uh So, I think he will 624 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: be the guy, as Bucky alluded to earlier, to pull 625 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: Trevor aside to have that relationship. Um, that's sort of 626 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: what struck me the most about the podcast that we 627 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: did and going back there, because, Um, Mike and I 628 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: were together in Carolina during that time, and so I 629 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: can speak on the impact that he had on Jake 630 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: Delane and the impact that he had on the offense. 631 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: Dan Henning was the offensive coordinator. Dan Henning was very 632 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: old school and how he wanted to go about running 633 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: an offense. Um, John Fox was a defensive coach, and 634 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: the main thing was secured the ball. Wanted to run 635 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: the football, and you wanted the quarterback to make a 636 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: handful of place. I would ball all accounts, and I 637 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: know Mike would never say this on record. Hey man, 638 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: Jake Delane was a bit of a roller coaster ride. 639 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: But their ability to manage him and put him in 640 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: a situation where this guy played at a Pro Bowl 641 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: level led us to a Super Bowl Super Bowl thirty 642 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: eight and then probable Super Bowl based on the personnel. 643 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: The defense is great, the offense as Steve Smith or whatever, 644 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: but it wasn't what you would say a classic super 645 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: Bowl level offense. But part of the reason they were 646 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: able to do it is because they found a way 647 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: to help the quarterback play at a high level. Some 648 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: of that were the playmakers around them, but a lot 649 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: of that was some of the sweet nothings that Mike 650 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: McCoy and those guys were whispering Jake deloans here and 651 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: how they built the offense in the passing game, in 652 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: particular around what Jake delon could do really well, Why 653 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: will Ingram work here when it didn't work out in 654 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: New York? Yeah, well the thing is in New York. 655 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: Um it worked to a point, but look, it's a 656 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: mess there, Like it was a mess. And I don't 657 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: necessarily know if the quarterback play was great. I can 658 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: confidently say that I don't know if the play callers 659 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: that were they're rolling through when he was playing, we're ideal. 660 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: But he didn't go to a Pro Bowl there, and 661 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 1: I know people make a lot of about probably did, 662 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: but to love where he put up some numbers a 663 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: couple of years ago might have been the second season 664 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: that was his best season when it came from our 665 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: production standpoint. But what he is is kind of a 666 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: jumbo slot receiver, someone who you have to understand exactly 667 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: what he is. If you're thinking he's gonna put his 668 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: face mask and the defensive end's chest and he's gonna 669 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: block him and maul him and do all that, that's 670 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: not That's not the role that he's gonna play. He 671 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: is a pass catching tight end. He is someone that 672 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: is a mismatch problem for the defense because you have 673 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: to figure out who do I want to put on them? 674 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: Do I want to put a linebacker? Do I want 675 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: to put a safety? Your nickel on him. If it's 676 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: the smaller guy, he's gonna post him up and he's 677 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: gonna beat him up because he has superior physical traits 678 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: in terms of size dimensions. If it's the linebacker, he's 679 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: gonna run past him. And so the easiest throw for 680 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback is over the middlefield to a tight end. 681 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: And so now what you're able to do is build 682 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,479 Speaker 1: the passing game inside out, Evan Ingram as the focal point, 683 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: and then it goes to Christian Kirk Za Jones, then 684 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: whoever else is out there, Marvin Jones or whatever. But 685 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,479 Speaker 1: the two guys that are most important will be Evan 686 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: Ingram work in the middle and the Christian Kirk working 687 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: from the slot. He Or is a Jones because I 688 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: think they're interchangeable in terms of how they play. But 689 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: this passing game would work over the middle of the field. 690 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: And to take that back, go all the way back 691 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 1: to how Trevor played at Clemson. R P O S 692 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: quick passes. A lot of this stuff inside the numbers 693 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: of some kind of fake play action, uh for fake 694 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: throw it all that so it all works together. But 695 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: Evan Ingham should be a big beneficiary. I love to 696 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: hear that this is the Huddle Up podcast, Bucky, When 697 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: are you coming to Jacksonville next week? Because I think 698 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: we're switching some days. We've got some programming changes next week. 699 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna try to do the Huddle Up 700 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 1: on Tuesday next week. Does that work with your travel schedule? 701 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: That works with the travel schedule, because you know, based 702 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: on that fancy little party that you have, I'm gonna 703 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: see if I can be helicoptered in and just kind 704 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: of dropped in the middle of the thing in midfield, 705 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: like something very spectacular, you know, like who has the 706 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: little heaplic helicopter in recruiting where they get on the 707 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: little chopping and they just dropped down on the back 708 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: side of bowl. Yeah, and from the raster. No, So 709 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm taking I'm taking a red I a hand. So 710 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm coming in Thursday morning. I do path to the 711 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: draft Wednesday night and I'm jumping on the plane and 712 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: I'm coming right there and I'll be there for all 713 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: the festivities and really looking forward to it. Should be 714 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. We're looking forward to having you 715 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: here on our coverage coming up. But tomorrow Jaguars happy, 716 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: are you know? We mentioned the two thousand three Carolina 717 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: Panthers that went to the Super Bowl. Brentson Buckner was 718 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: part of that team. He will join us live in 719 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: studio tomorrow, Buckey. He's gonna be with me and Loghman 720 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: about four fifteen on tinto next l am. Okay, I 721 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: gotta thing for you what you can do with buck Um. 722 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: I think you have to challenge Logiman to see if 723 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: he and Brinson Buckner can do that big man dance 724 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: off because Brinson Buckner was one of the first guys 725 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: at NFL Network, and he was one of the guys 726 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: who was an originator, a founding father of the Big 727 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: Man Dance Off. So maybe you can whisper Dad and 728 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: Brinson bucks He said, Hey, man, I need to see 729 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: you and log big Man Dance Off. Those might be 730 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: the only words I get in the whole interview. Oh, 731 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: he's a little luckuted a little Let's talk a little 732 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: bit now he's gonna do it. Looking forward to talking 733 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: defensive line with him tomorrow. John, what do you got 734 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: coming up from here until about next Wednesday? Uh? Jaguars 735 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: dot Com. It's it's pretty much Bucky Brooks all the 736 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: time in terms of our draft coverage, Bucky and I 737 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: killing it. It did an eight part series. Don't give 738 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: it out to Bucky. It's mostly his insight and I 739 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: it's good stuff. I recommend reading it. It started Monday 740 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: and I'll go through next Wednesday. Looking forward to that 741 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: has always been path to the draft continues NFL Network. 742 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: Buck Yeah, man, we just over here talking just you know, spinning, spinning, 743 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: spin washing, repeat, just just just doing doing what we do. 744 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: It should be a lot of fun, though, I'm excited 745 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: how much I see we had a number one pick 746 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: is gonna be. But I'm more excited to see who's 747 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: gonna be the first pick of the second round, because 748 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: best money man best. I like it. We've been a 749 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: little over a week to figure it out. Bucky will 750 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: talk to you next time. John Osier, Joe Fortunato, Dave 751 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: de Candice, our entire crew. I'm J. P. Shadrick. We'll 752 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: catch you next time. On the Huddle Up Podcast, M