1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast in the Clay 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: and Book Podcast Network. Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm Tutor Dixon, and today we are chatting about fairness 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: in women's sports, but really fairness for women no matter what. 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 1: I know you've seen a lot of what's going on 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: in the news lately, and we thought this was something 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: we needed to tackle because sadly, after endless battles for 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: women's rights, the war has not yet been one. We 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: continue to fight for this, but for our actual identities. 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: I mean, that's crazy. It's we're fighting for our rights, 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 1: but now we're fighting for our identities because men are 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: being celebrated right now for really openly mocking us assuming 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: our identities. And I think one of the worst ones 14 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: is setting records in women's sports. So I have one 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: woman today who is bravely stepped out. You may not 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: have heard her story, and I want you to hear 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: her story. We have Taylor Silverman with us. She's a 18 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: skateboarder actually grew up in Michigan from Kalamazoo, Michigan. We 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: were just chatting about how challenging it is to be 20 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: a woman as it is in sports, but she has 21 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: an interesting story, so I want to bring her in. Taylor, 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being on with me today. 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me tutor. I'm really excited to 24 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: be here. I know that you're also in Michigan, and 25 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: I know I told you this before we started recording. 26 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: But it's not often i'm too intimidated because I look 27 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: up to someone that I'm scared to go introduce myself. 28 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: But I saw you at Seapac last year and I 29 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: couldn't even get myself to go say hi, and I 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: was like kicking myself about it. So I was really 31 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: excited when you guys reached out and that I get 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: the opportunity to speak with you now. Well, I am 33 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: honestly so excited about what you're doing because, as I 34 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: said before, and thank you for saying that that sweet. 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: It makes me feel silent. But maybe I'm intimidating to people, 36 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: so don't feel that way coming talking in a bad way. 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: I just was like, I don't want to bother her, 38 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: like she won't know who I am. Don't ever feel 39 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: like that, please, Seriously, I am so impressed with what 40 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: you're doing. And as I said, I'm a mom of 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: four girls. That's why I'm so passionate about this. And 42 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: it was just interesting because as we were talking about this, 43 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: we were talking about men stepping up and supporting this 44 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: and how there's so much pushback on anybody that says 45 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: women have a place. But before we get into the details, 46 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: explain what happened to you so that our audience can 47 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: hear that, and then we're going to go into some 48 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: of the aftermath and what we're going to do going 49 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: forward to protect women. Yeah. So I've been skateboarding now 50 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: for almost twelve years. I've competed for several of those years, 51 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: and oftentimes this means like traveling to a different state 52 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: to do so. And this has actually happened three different times, 53 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: and it was three different male athletes, so each time 54 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: a different person. But most recently, in December of twenty 55 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: twenty one, I qualified for a Red Bull Finals red 56 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: Bull warner Stone and I qualified out here in Michigan, 57 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: but then I traveled to Lincoln, Nebraska, and the day 58 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: of the finals of this contest was made aware that 59 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: a male athlete had also been traveling state to state 60 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: and collecting five hundred dollars at each stop. And these qualifiers, 61 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: and I didn't know how to handle it at the time. 62 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do, what to say. It 63 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: was a really uncomfortable position to be in. But this 64 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: athlete went on to place first and took home in 65 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: total five thousand dollars that was made to be for 66 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: the female athletes. They not only took first place, they 67 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: took best trick, and then they placed first in a 68 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: couple of qualifiers as well. So I reached out to 69 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: red Bull privately because you know, I wanted to be 70 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: as professional as I could about this, to express my concerns, 71 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: and this was an email of which we'd corresponded before. 72 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: I didn't just like email red Bull customer service, but 73 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: they completely ignored me. They did not respond, They just 74 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: didn't let me express my concerns at all. So after 75 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: sitting with that for a while and getting kind of 76 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: frustrated with what had happened, I decided to share my 77 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: story online because I had seen women like Riley Gaines 78 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: and Selena Soul who had spoken out about experiencing this 79 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: in their sports, and I realized that I really needed 80 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: to speak up for myself, and I felt like a 81 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: moral obligation to do it. Because I want to be 82 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: a parent and I couldn't imagine what it would be 83 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: like to have a daughter go through this one day 84 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: knowing that I didn't say anything, so it made me 85 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: feel guilty. And you know, women's skateboarding has come a 86 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: long way, and it's very upsetting to see us take 87 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: these steps backwards. Oh, I know, and that's what we 88 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: were talking about. It's so bizarre to me because we've 89 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: worked really hard to even have women's sports. And I 90 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: was talking to you earlier about I have friends in 91 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: the Czech Republic and their daughter is not able to 92 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: play soccer because they just said, oh, we wouldn't let 93 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: girls play soccer, simply because they don't think that women 94 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: should play soccer. So think about how far we've come 95 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: in the United States that we have women's sports, that 96 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: we have a protected place for women to play. But 97 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: now you're seeing more and more men step into that space, 98 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: which seems crazy that we have to argue that this 99 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: is not okay. And then when people like you step up, 100 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: or when people like Riley Gains step up, people other 101 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: folks come out and say, well, this is this is bigotry, 102 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: this is discrimination, And it's interesting to me because when 103 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: we were running the race for governor, I didn't know 104 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: you back then. And so when we were running, we 105 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: had an event for women's sports, and we had so 106 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: many high school girls come out and they were just 107 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: standing behind me and supporting the fact that they they 108 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: just want to play it against equal competitors. They just 109 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: want fairness and sports. And the reporters actually said to me, 110 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: can you name one instance of this in Michigan? Why 111 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: would you fight for this? And honestly, I said, we 112 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 1: don't have to actually have an instance in Michigan because 113 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: we're the United States of America and we're seeing this 114 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: across the United States, and I've got girls behind me 115 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: here that want to make sure that they're going to 116 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: be competing against girls. Yeah, and it's a lot better 117 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: to prevent it from happening than try to deal with 118 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: it after it's happened. Like looking right right, I wish 119 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: I would have had the courage to speak up right 120 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: when I realized what was happening, But as an athlete, 121 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: it's very difficult to know what to do. It's scary 122 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: to have to advocate for yourself in that position and 123 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: worry what the backlash could be. Especially when you're you've 124 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: already traveled across the country just to be there. But yeah, 125 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: the reason I speak up is because I don't want 126 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: more people to have to go through this. I think 127 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: it's better to make it so that this doesn't have 128 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: to happen to any other girls. You know what I 129 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: find really frustrating about this is that we see men 130 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: like Lebron James standing up and speaking out on behalf 131 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: of the Chinese communist country, but he does not come 132 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: out and say, wait a minute, wait a minute. Women 133 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: should be able to compete fairly in sports. Why do 134 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: we not see more men stepping up and saying, come on, 135 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. I mean, for example, at the PGA Tour, 136 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: the women's Tour in Australia, a man one and let's 137 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: just be honest, this is a man an intect mail 138 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: one the PGA Women's Open in Australia. And we know 139 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: without a shadow of a doubt that men can hit 140 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: a ball, a golf ball much farther than women, to 141 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: the point, so much farther than women. They can outdrive 142 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: a woman by so much that women actually have a 143 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: tea that is closer to the whole than men do. 144 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: So how could it possibly be fair to say a 145 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: man is going to play from the woman's tea in 146 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: golf and women are actually then going to beat him. 147 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: It's not fair. And the biological differences between male and 148 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: female are very clear in obvious ways and in some 149 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: subtle ways too. But this impacts performance in sports, and 150 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: it's disappointing to see what we do see a lot 151 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: of athletes speaking up now, and that is actually gaining momentum. 152 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: Like one athlete who I love and I was so 153 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: just blown away to see her video speaking up about 154 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: this was Bethany Hamilton. Because I've looked up to her 155 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: since I was young, so it I was thinking, oh 156 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: my gosh. I first off, I'm so happy that there's 157 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: another athlete in board sports who's speaking up. And second off, 158 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: it's Bethany Hamilton. She's a legend and she has a 159 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: huge platform. But I think everyone should be speaking up 160 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: about this. But I think some men think, well, this 161 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: isn't my fight. I don't have any you know, skin 162 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: in the game, but everyone does. We all know women 163 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: who play and love sports and that should be protected. 164 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: I think that for men who are listening right now, 165 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: you are hearing from a woman who had this happened 166 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: to her. She is asking for you to set forward two. 167 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: I think we're all asking as a mom, I'm asking 168 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: as a woman. I'm asking. We need people to vocally 169 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: come out and say this is just common sense and 170 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: it is not discriminatory, and it is not trying to 171 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: take something away from someone. The only people that are 172 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: losing in this situation are women who have spent their 173 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: entire lives training. You talked about the women who you 174 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: saw over the years that would come to the skate 175 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: park and get Dick's discouraged and leave because it is challenging. 176 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: It is a very male dominated sport, and it took 177 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: a lot for you to get where you are and 178 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: then to have somebody decide to say, I'm going to 179 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: compete as a woman, but I am a male. I mean, 180 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: how did we even get here? Yeah, Like in sports 181 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: like skateboarding and other sports that are typically male dominated 182 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: more independently organized, it is difficult as a woman because 183 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: you're going into a space where there's not a lot 184 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: of other women you're going to get There are many 185 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: times throughout you know, being a teenager at skateparks on Michigan. 186 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: I got dirty looks, I got giggled at because I 187 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: was a beginner, and the reason I kept doing it 188 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: is because I genuinely loved it. But like I told you, 189 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: before we started today, I would see women who would 190 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: come to the park who were beginners, women and girls, 191 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: and I'd be really excited. This is great, you know, 192 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: more women joining, and then within a few weeks or 193 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: a couple of months, you don't see them anymore because 194 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: they get discouraged and because they're not being supported. And 195 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: it's really important to me to support other women who 196 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: are starting out because it is scary to be a 197 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: beginner and anything, especially something like skateboarding, Like nobody looks 198 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: cool when they first start skateboarding, but a lot of 199 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: skateboarders know that they've all been through that they can 200 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: relate to it, and that's why they support people. But yeah, 201 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: we've come a long way. Like when I first started skating, 202 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: I would go to contest and there wouldn't be a 203 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: women's division. So it was awesome to see women's divisions 204 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: being formed, that women were getting opportunities we didn't have before. 205 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: I could travel to an event and meet other women 206 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: who loved what I do just or loved skateboarding the 207 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: same way that I do, and we could actually be 208 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: celebrated for that and even make money doing it and 209 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: even have jobs doing it, something that you know, the 210 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: generation before us didn't have the same way. Let's take 211 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tutor 212 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 1: Dixon Podcast. So let's go into a little bit of 213 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: the backlash when you do speak out, because right now 214 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: there is a big movement to say that there is 215 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: a an ability for a transwoman to do anything, and 216 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: actually not just do anything, but they are taking over 217 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: women's spaces, and so they're you know, being brand ambassa, 218 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: they're being listed as brand ambassadors, they're in commercials, they 219 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: are now in taking over brands that are solely for women. 220 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: I mean, when you see tampons being advertised by a man, 221 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: it just how can this have happened? But if you 222 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: say anything about that, that really the backlash is pretty 223 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: severe and you're you're called a transphobe and you're listed 224 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: as a bigot. But you had a very interesting experience 225 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: as a Jewish woman, you had such extreme backlash. They 226 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: actually came after your faith as well, didn't they. Oh yeah, 227 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: And I'm not a particularly religious person, but Judaisms and 228 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: Ethno religion, so like I'm the first generation of my 229 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: family to be raised more secular. But yeah, I was 230 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: actually in Israel on a trip when I spoke up, 231 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: and the first thing that people went after me being 232 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: in Israel being a Jew, I got called horribly anti 233 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: Semitic things. And it was shocking because this is a 234 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: group of people who pride themselves on being inclusive and 235 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: anti racist. So I was that I actually didn't expect 236 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: that at all. I mean, I knew it was possible 237 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: because I had just even from being on social media 238 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: in the first place for the past few years, I 239 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: started to receive more anti Semitic messages from people I 240 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: didn't know, accusing me of horrible things. I didn't even 241 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: know like how I was connected to it all. But um, 242 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: it was crazy. But I actually think that it blew 243 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: up the story more because people were thinking, yeah, it 244 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: did the opposite effect of what they wanted. But um, 245 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: aside from the anti Semitic comments and that kind of stuff, 246 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: it was just your typical you're a transphobe, you're a bigot, 247 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: you're an extremist. And I thought that the things that 248 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: I were saying were actually very reasonable. I actually included 249 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: the email that I sent to Red Bull where I 250 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: explained how I felt about it, and I included, um like, 251 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: all the details of the story, including how much money 252 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: was involved. And there were people who um like, luckily 253 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: all my family and friends were all behind me the 254 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: whole time, but there were people who had skated with 255 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: or even like grabbed a beer with after a skate session, 256 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: who just completely started bashing me. And I was thinking, 257 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: these people, they've talked to me, they know me, they 258 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: know that I'm not a hateful person. That I'm actually 259 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: speaking up about something I've been personally impacted by now. 260 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: And I think that's a frustrating thing about this is 261 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: that it's you're coming from a place of knowledge. This 262 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: happened to you, it's not something that you're speaking about. 263 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I understand how some people say, oh, to me, 264 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: you're a mom, that doesn't make you qualified, and they 265 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: can somehow say by that means alone, I don't get 266 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: to speak about women, regardless of the fact that I 267 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: am a woman. But you've lived this. I mean, it's 268 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: the same situation with Riley Gaines. Riley just last week 269 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: was attacked by people at San Francisco State. They punched her. 270 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: She was punched, She was punched in the face, She 271 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: was I think punched in the shoulder, in the face, 272 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: and then the police escorted her and she was being 273 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: protected at the time, but the police escorted her to 274 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: a room where she was essentially help ransom for three 275 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: hours and they were saying, well, she should pay us 276 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: to get out of here. No one has been held 277 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: accountable for this. On campus. They apologize to students, said 278 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: they would help them get through the emotional trauma of this. 279 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: They treated Riley like she was the bad person. And 280 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: she is out there saying why should women have to 281 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: be in the locker room with intact biological mails staring 282 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: at them undressed? But on top of that, why should 283 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: we have to compete? But I think just the fact 284 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: that she talks about how uncomfortable she was in the 285 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: locker room should be enough. But instead she's the one 286 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: held hostage and even the university just washes their hands 287 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, I saw that emails that school officials 288 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: sent out to students saying they were proud of the 289 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: students for peacefully protesting. But you can see by the footage, 290 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: it was not peaceful at all, and you don't punch 291 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: someone if you're I'm all four people actually peacefully protesting, 292 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: and I think Riley would have been more than happy 293 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: to have a civilized discussion or answer questions from protesters, 294 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: but she wasn't given that opportunity. Instead, she had to 295 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: barricade in a room for her own safety, and to 296 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: be in there for three hours. That's insane. How is 297 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: something not done sooner? Why wasn't she taken out safely sooner? 298 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: That is a way too long of a time to 299 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: be sitting around while people are screaming for you to 300 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: pay them money to be let out. So what is 301 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: your take on retired athletes like Megan Rippino coming out 302 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: and saying, yeah, I'm all for this. I'm not I'm 303 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: not playing soccer anymore. I'm all for this, go for it, 304 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: have men playing. It's disappointing, especially because she benefited a 305 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: lot from women's sports and having this division, and it 306 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: seems to me that she's pulling up the ladder behind 307 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: her so that the next generation of girls won't have 308 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: the same privileges and things that she was afforded. But 309 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: I think it Riley recently tweeted it might have been 310 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: to day that one she's retired, she doesn't actually have 311 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: to go through this, and two she's not attracted to men, 312 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: so there's a slim chance that she'll have a daughter 313 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: who has to go through this one day. And I 314 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: think that she is attempting to virtue signal to a 315 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: woke audience for you know, applause, but not really thinking 316 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: about how this impacts and the next generation of girls 317 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: and the future generation as well, who many of whom 318 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: have gone through. Well, and maybe you're right. I mean, 319 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: she has an incredible record. She is considered one of 320 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: the best soccer players in the world. Maybe this is 321 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: a way to say this is my record, and anybody 322 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: who breaks it is not actually a biological female. I mean, 323 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: maybe this is a way of holding women back, which 324 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: would be twisted, but really to come out and support 325 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: women playing with men is twisted in and of itself, 326 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: because we've already seen I think it was just a 327 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: few weeks ago that a woman was catastrophically injured on 328 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: the soccer field because they had a biological male playing 329 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: on the soccer field with women. I mean, there really is. 330 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: It's not just that we're talking about fairness. There's really 331 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: dangerous in a lot of these games of having a 332 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: mail on the field. If you're talking about a contact 333 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: sport like that, it is really truly dangerous. And I 334 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: cannot believe that someone who did this for a living, 335 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: who became famous for this, who ended up with a nice, 336 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: wonderful lifestyle and probably set for life out of playing soccer, 337 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: would then come out and say, yeah, I'm done, but 338 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: I want the rest of the girls to have to 339 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: deal with a man on the field. That seems unreasonable. 340 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: Here completely right that this presents a safety issue, and 341 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: we've seen actual cases of women being injured in contact 342 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: and combat sports especially this is dangerous for women. Like 343 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: the MMA fighter fallon Fox actually started a fighting career 344 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: and at first didn't disclose that they were male, fought 345 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: a couple of women before even coming out and saying 346 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: and said that it was a medical issue that people 347 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: didn't know about, and women got injured. The women had 348 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: skulls broken. And then there was the volleyball case. I 349 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: think it was a high school volleyball team where a 350 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: girl was hit in the face by a spiked ball 351 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: and had head and neck injuries. All right, we're we're 352 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: only gonna see before this, there was actually a like 353 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: a trans hockey game where male and female played together 354 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: and you probably guess it didn't go that well. A 355 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: woman was taken out on a stretcher. Well that's the question. 356 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: At what point do we have to have a catastrophic 357 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: lifelong injury for people to say, oh, maybe this is 358 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,719 Speaker 1: not right. And it's interesting because when we have had 359 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: folks come forward and say, look, I'm not saying anything 360 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: about what there were life choices, but I want to 361 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: stick up for the people who have spent They're the 362 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: women who have spent their lives training for this and 363 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: want this, and in our I mean and in many 364 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: cases you're talking, came out really robbing women of scholarships, 365 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: robbing them of prize money. This like we said with 366 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: Megan Rapino, this is a career for her. These are 367 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: careers that are being stolen from women. How can we 368 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: say this? I mean, you've had women for years, think 369 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: about this, in banking, in the legal world, in really 370 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: in the professional world in general. For years, women have 371 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: said men have been pushed to the top over women. 372 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: We've had to break the glass ceiling we've been turned 373 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: we've been passed over for promotions, and this is all 374 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: because of sexism, and we're being robbed of our careers. 375 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: We're not able to do something. We now have the 376 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: first female vice president in the history of the United 377 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: States of America. And to a lot of people, they said, 378 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: this is incredible, this is really breaking the glass ceiling. 379 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: But what has she done. She has supported the president 380 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: in signing this new Title nine that takes away from 381 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: women and puts into the hands of transgender people who 382 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: will then keep women from achieving and keep women from 383 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: their lifelong career aspirations. How can this be? I mean, 384 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: what do you think about when you see a woman 385 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: who has clearly been promoted to this position saying well, 386 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: I'm not going to let other women achieve in their career. 387 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: Incredibly disappointing, And I think there are parallels to draw 388 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: between the vice president and the female athletes who are 389 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: actually speaking out in support of males being included in 390 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: women's sports. But one thing I do want people to 391 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: know is I've received a lot more support than I 392 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: have backlash, and I know Riley has too, and that's 393 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: because that is the general opinion of most Americans. Most 394 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: people are just scared to say it out loud, but oh, 395 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: that's so intern I think that it's important to speak 396 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: up because when we don't, it allows those who oppose 397 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: fairness in women's sports to paint this illusion that they're 398 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: the majority when they're not. So you were saying that 399 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: one of the big skate companies said they don't get 400 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: involved in politics. And it's funny because as we're talking 401 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: about this, it's making me think about this bill that 402 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: is backed by Riley that's up for a House vote 403 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: right now to protect women's sports, and we're hearing that 404 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: Democrats will vote against it, and they're already saying they're 405 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: going to vote against it. So it has become political. 406 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: But it really is. What you just said is so 407 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: key because most people are supportive. They're silently supportive of you. 408 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: They're coming to you and say saying we support you. 409 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: You've got this. But even Democrats, I know they have 410 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: got to be elected female Democrats who are saying this 411 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: is wrong, but they will vote for it because they 412 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: cannot go against their party. What does that say about 413 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: Democrat women right now who claim to be feminists, who 414 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: claim to be out there for women who claim to 415 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: be there for the marginalized people, and yet they are 416 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: forcing something that will continue to hold women back. It 417 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: says that they're liars, like they're working towards a political 418 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: agenda and not actually the right thing. And it's really 419 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: disappointing because the way I see this issue is it's nonpartisan, 420 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: because I've talked to people with all different political views 421 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: on a variety of different topics who all say, yeah, 422 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: I understand and agree with you on this one common sense. 423 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: But you will not find one single Democratic politician or 424 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: someone in politics involved in any way who will speak 425 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: up about this and who will condemn it when I'm 426 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: not I don't believe that they all actually agree with it. 427 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: I think you're right that there's got to be women 428 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: who are thinking, well, this is a no brainer, but 429 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to go along with you know what's like 430 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 1: being pushed by the Democratic Party. But it's really conservatives 431 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: who have been stepping forth and fighting to get legal 432 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: protections for women here and protect legal protections that already exist, 433 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: like Title nine, which women fought for fifty years ago, 434 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: and it's now being hijacked to something it was never 435 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: meant to be and it's going to be used in 436 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: a way that actually prevents it from being used for 437 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: what it was originally intended for, which is protection of 438 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: female athletes. Well, and I have to tell you, if 439 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: you think about this, you're not hearing a lot about 440 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: female athletes that are achieving in college swimming, in skateboarding. 441 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not national news when someone beats a record, 442 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: when someone gets a title, it's not something that the 443 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: world stops for. But my goodness, everybody knows they'll namely 444 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: A Thomas. Yeah, how can it be that we will 445 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: not lift up female athletes, that the news ignores female athletes, 446 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: But when a man comes in and takes all the titles, 447 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: they're put on the front of magazines. Isn't this just 448 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: promoting this even more so for men to come into 449 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: women's sports, because it's not just that you are competing 450 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: in you're winning medals. Now you're suddenly the most important 451 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: person in the country. You're suddenly breaking barriers. You're out 452 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: there and you're being celebrated as something new and different, 453 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: And in a sport where generally people never hear the 454 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: names of the winners, you end up on the front 455 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: of a magazine. What does that say to little kids. 456 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: I think that it discourages girls from even trying. I 457 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: have had so many parents reach out to me and 458 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: tell me that they have teenage daughters who no longer 459 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: even want to go try out for a team because 460 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: they don't want to have to face this, or they 461 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: know that this is happening at their school. And I 462 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: think if girls feel like they are not going to 463 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: be able to succeed no matter how hard they work, 464 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: that is going to be detrimental for the future of society. 465 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: Like in sports, you get a lot more out of 466 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: it than just being active than competing. You learn life skills, 467 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: like you learn how to work on a team, You 468 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: learn how to take a win the right way, how 469 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: to take a loss the right way. You learn perseverance, 470 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: and you know how to get up after a bad fall. 471 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: But if girls don't have that space to do that, 472 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 1: what is that going to mean for women in our future? 473 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to find out right exactly. Well, you 474 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: are someone who is in the unique position to tell 475 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: this story. Honestly, I'm so glad that you agreed to 476 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: come on the program today and talk about it. It 477 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: is such a hard thing to talk about because when 478 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: you come out and speak against this or really for women, 479 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: I don't even want to say against it. I just 480 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: want to say, when you come out and speak for 481 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: women like this for some reason right now, there's so 482 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: many people that say that's not acceptable. You stand up, 483 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: You continue to do this every day. I'm so proud 484 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,719 Speaker 1: of you. I am so happy that you do it. 485 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: And after Riley had this happen, I texted her and 486 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: I said, look, you have so many moms out here, 487 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: moms of girls, women out here that are saying thank 488 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: you for being the voice that we can't be, and 489 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: you are in the same situation. So Taylor Silverman, thank you. 490 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: Thank for what you do every day. Yeah, thank you 491 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: for joining me. But I also I think people should 492 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,239 Speaker 1: know that all of the hate that I've received has 493 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: been online. In person, people are thanking me. I've never 494 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: had that one come up to me in person and 495 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: say anything other than wow, I really appreciate what you do. 496 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: I have a daughter, or I was a college athlete, 497 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: or whatever it may be. And I want people to 498 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 1: know that that's how most Americans feel. And you know, 499 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that are just hired online 500 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: to go and put those things out there. They're not 501 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: real people. And I mean, I know there's the bots conversation, 502 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: but there are truly people that are just hired as 503 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: activists to go onto accounts like yours and spread hate 504 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: and send terrible messages. And I think that's what's so 505 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: important for people to understand. This is not real. It's 506 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: not real life. There are girls being bullied online and 507 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: that's not real. Ignore that. I even my own mother 508 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: will say to me, I read these comments and they're horrible. 509 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, Mom, this is not real life, and I'm 510 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: so glad that you said that. That you get it online, 511 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: but in person it's different because it's something that every 512 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: young woman needs to know. What you see online, do 513 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: not take that to heart. What you see in person, 514 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: your interactions with real people, that's what matters. And generally 515 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: people love people, and that's what we should continue to 516 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: focus on. There are absolutely extremists who will go to 517 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: horrible lengths like what happened with Riley and San Francisco, 518 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: but that's not your average person. And I've gotten a 519 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: lot more support and a lot of opportunities for speaking up, 520 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: and I'm going to continue to do so because I 521 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: don't want young girls to not have the opportunities I 522 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: had as a child but didn't get to experience as 523 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: an adult. Thank you, Thank you so much again, Taylor Silverman. 524 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: We support you. Thank you for being honest, Thank you 525 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: for having me Tutor. I support you two. I was 526 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: really happy when I saw the email. 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