1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning. 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 3: Everybody is the j n V Jess hilarious charlamage the guy. 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club low on the roster filling 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 3: in for Jess. And we got a special guest in 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 3: the building. Yes, indeed we have tie Sewan Jones on 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 3: the sheet that says he is the first black professional 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: skateboard Is that true? 9 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: No, that's what I said. But you are a professional skateboarder? 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 4: Correct? Correct? 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: Now how do you. 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: Get to a quote unquote professional skateboarder title? 13 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 4: Uh? Well, I always explain it to people like music, 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, or not not like music, 15 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 4: like basketball. So there's phases. There's three phases. First you 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 4: go flow, let's say that's like high school basketball. Then 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 4: you go amateur that's college, and then you go pro 18 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 4: that's NBA okay. 19 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: And what makes you pro? 20 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 4: Is it it's just a company of board company has 21 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 4: to turn you pro? 22 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: Got you? 23 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 4: So like that's the way the culture is, Like your 24 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 4: skateboard company is who determines when you go pro? 25 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 5: And is your company like an agency or is it 26 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 5: just like a governing company that looks at like what 27 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 5: you've been doing like track record competitions or no, it's like. 28 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 4: A company that, like you would be sponsored by this 29 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 4: individual one. So like I don't know, like I'm trying 30 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 4: to explain it in a way that child maybe remember, 31 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 4: Like you remember like Zu York yep, so Zuo York 32 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 4: is a skateboard company or was previously. They don't. I 33 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 4: don't think they make skateboards anymore. But Zu York would 34 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 4: turn you pro if you response about them, So that'd 35 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 4: be like basically like your team picking you up to 36 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 4: go to the A. 37 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 6: And it's a very lucrative business. That's why I understand 38 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 6: why more people don't, you know, get involved in it. 39 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's lucrative and as like certain people, 40 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 4: it's wishy washy. Some people get paid, some people don't 41 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 4: really get paid. It's kind of like it depends is 42 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 4: it just depends who you are, and I guess your image. 43 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 6: I first heard of about you sadly through some drama 44 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 6: when you got kicked in Paris. 45 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, here you're pro skateboarder Tasha Jones kicked 46 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 4: off his bike by screenshle riding in Paris. 47 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: Then when I thought it, I'm like, oh, he's black. 48 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was very interesting occurrence. 49 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: Why was that? What did did you ever find out 50 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: what that was about? 51 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 4: So I never told the full story. I just kind 52 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 4: of put it on Instagram because it was funny to me. 53 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 4: I was like, because people like you know that, like 54 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 4: when stuff happens, it's like people can't is not gonna 55 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 4: believe this if I tell him, like so, and it 56 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 4: just so happened. My agent got a video. He's not 57 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: my agent, he's my team manager for Adidas. I'm sponsored 58 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 4: by Dida. 59 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 2: So oh, I thought it was just a random person 60 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: who I got. 61 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna tell you the full story. So and 62 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 4: usually I'm deep, like I'm with like a bunch of 63 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 4: my friends and we we was in Paris. We go 64 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 4: eat or we go into the shows and stuff. We 65 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 4: tend we ride around the bikes. The one I'm alone, 66 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 4: I'm not well not alone, but I'm just with somebody 67 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 4: who's not about that life at all. So I'm with 68 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 4: my team manager from Adidas and he's like, let's go 69 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: get breakfast and I'm like okay, and he's like let's ride. 70 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 4: I'm like, he's like, you want to take a cab? 71 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 4: Like no, let's just ride bikes. His Paris traffic is crazy, 72 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: So he get downstairs, we grab the bikes. We're riding 73 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 4: the bikes and we get like two blocks from the 74 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 4: hotel and I'm wearing the Victor Victor hoodie. You know, 75 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 4: Steve is my manager, so he deals with Steven. So 76 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 4: he's like, I'm going to film you because I'm going 77 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 4: to send Steven a video you wearing the hoodie. But 78 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 4: before he started filming me, I have my skateboard and 79 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 4: I have I have a bag in my hand. So 80 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 4: like in Paris, the bikes they're not like city bikes, 81 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 4: like they don't have a strap. So I have the 82 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 4: skateboard in the bucket and I'm holding the bike with 83 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: my other hands, so like my, like my, what's the word. 84 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 4: I'm looking for my balance. So I'm like I'm biking 85 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: kind of slow. And then there's this guy is like 86 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 4: trailing me, and I'm like I'm like, I'm like, yo, 87 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 4: go in front of me, bro like you see, I'm 88 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, go around. I got 89 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 4: like a lot of stuff in my hands. So he 90 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 4: comes to the side of me and we're like face 91 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 4: to face and he's like he's like, you're fucking American 92 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah blah, like you get in my 93 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 4: country da da da da American accent. Okay, So my 94 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 4: team manager from Adidas is behind me. 95 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: He's filming. 96 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 4: He's no, he's not filming at this point. He's just 97 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 4: like behind me, and I look at him and I 98 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 4: give him a look like I look back at him 99 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 4: because he know like I'm not going for that. So 100 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 4: we look at each other. He's like, please talk, Sean no, 101 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 4: and I'm like and I look back at the guy. 102 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 4: He's like screaming at me, and I'm like, get out 103 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 4: of my face or is it going to be an issue? 104 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 4: And then he's still going and I'm like, so I 105 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 4: kind of just like push him away from me, like 106 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 4: I give him like I'm like move. He bikes off, 107 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 4: so whatever. We're like, we're just biking that bike like 108 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 4: five blocks down, like the full videos like a minute long. 109 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 4: We're biking and the guy must have biked off waited 110 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 4: to the side, and I'm like we get like six 111 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: blocks down and I'm just like biking. I'm just going 112 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 4: to get breakfast with my team manager from Adidas, who's 113 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 4: like a German guy who's like the most peaceful guy 114 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 4: in the world. And this guy, I just get kicked 115 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 4: off the bike. I don't know, I'm just biking. I 116 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 4: just fall on the floor. So I'm like, what the 117 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 4: fuck just happened? And then I get up and I 118 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: see the guy like zooming on the bike. So then 119 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 4: I look at my team manager and I'm like it's over, 120 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 4: Like I'm I don't want to hear nothing, like I'm 121 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 4: going to get him. So I grabbed my bike and 122 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: I started chasing him. But you know, we're from New York, 123 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 4: so you no, no not that he has like one 124 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 4: of those bikes with like the like a throt or, 125 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 4: so it's way faster than my bike. So I'm trying 126 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 4: to get him. 127 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 7: It was like a movie, like I see him, but 128 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 7: he's like fading away and he makes it right and 129 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 7: when I get to the corner, let's say ten seconds later, 130 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 7: it's like three ways. 131 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 4: It's like this way, this way, or this way, so 132 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: I'm like which way he fucking go? So then I 133 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 4: just go straight and I don't see him, and I'm like, 134 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 4: oh my god. And then I was like people like 135 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 4: like like I was biking I'm like trying to find 136 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 4: this guy. Someone's like, yo, what's up tie show? And 137 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, someone's gonna see me like 138 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 4: fighting this guy in Paris. I couldn't find him, so 139 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 4: I had to give up. No, No, it was funny. 140 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: Pushed him first. 141 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 4: I mean I didn't push him for he I mean, 142 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 4: it wasn't like I was just like get out of 143 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 4: my face. I wasn't like I didn't start him. I 144 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 4: was like, you know, you and my you know, somebody 145 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 4: coming up to you and they screaming at you gonna 146 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 4: be like yo, just like back up what you doing. 147 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 4: It wasn't like I was like, you know cause I 148 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 4: didn't want to be on that type of time and 149 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 4: with you know, so. 150 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 2: He laid and waited for you. Yeah, yeah, you miss 151 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: a skateboard to kick pushing. 152 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 6: You know. 153 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 4: You know how many calls I got like yo, you 154 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 4: allowed that to happen. I'm like, are you like, come 155 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 4: on bro? Like that that didn't go down the way 156 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 4: and look. But then when I got to breakfast and 157 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 4: he showed me the video, I was like air dropped 158 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 4: me that, Like I have to post that, Like it 159 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 4: was just too funny. Like sometimes you have to laugh 160 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 4: at yourself, like I don't take myself that serious, and 161 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 4: I'll be like, like, it's nothing, I gonna do what. 162 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go around Paris and look for this guy. 163 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 6: So when you said why would you do that, you 164 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 6: didn't realize it was the guy you had just got into. 165 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: It at first. 166 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I was playing. I was strolling. Oh no, 167 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 4: I was just messing around. I knew why he did it. 168 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 4: I mean, even though I didn't think, you know, I 169 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: really did anything to him. He started with me. He 170 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 4: was cursing at me and like screaming at me in French, 171 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 4: calling me an f an American. But yeah, that's the 172 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 4: full story for the world. 173 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: How did you get into skateboarding? When did you think 174 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: it was gonna be a business? Because you know, most 175 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 3: people know they skateboard, they ride bikes for fun as 176 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 3: a kid. But when did you say, oh, this is 177 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: a business, is gonna be my life. 178 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: So I'll tell you the story how I got into skateboarding. 179 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 4: It's really funny. Actually, so my brother at the time, 180 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 4: he's still my brother, but we're not cool. That's another 181 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 4: funny story. But he we were at his cousin at 182 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 4: his grandmother's house and her nieces and nephew lived there. 183 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 4: And remember those TVs that like was kind of built 184 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 4: it not TVs, but it'll be a TV and it's 185 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 4: like like the the speakers and stuff speakers, and then 186 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 4: it had like cabinets we can put stuff exactly. And 187 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 4: then it had remember like the CD things, the books 188 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 4: you could open up. 189 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: You remember. 190 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: Exactly. 191 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 4: So it was one of those they had that, and 192 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 4: they just had a bunch of video games in it, 193 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 4: and we wanted it, and we knew they wouldn't like 194 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 4: ask us. I mean, they wouldn't give it to us, 195 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 4: so we were like, let's take it. So we took 196 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,599 Speaker 4: like a couple of video games and uh put it 197 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 4: in my private parts so like if they started looking 198 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 4: for it, they wouldn't know where. 199 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: You don't know what you make stealings sound like. Yeah, 200 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: it was just cool. I just took it like we 201 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: were kids. 202 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 4: We were kids. We were like no, I was like nah, 203 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 4: he was probably thir teen, So we took I took 204 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 4: the We took the video games, and one of them 205 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 4: happened to be a skateboarding game, not to not Tony Hawk, 206 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 4: It's called skate It was just called skate. They have 207 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 4: Skate one, Skate two, Skate three, and they they're finally 208 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 4: making a new one after like a decade. So I 209 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 4: started playing the video games, and when I played the game, 210 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 4: we were like, I was like, really in the video games, 211 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 4: we didn't really go outside. I lived in Jersey at 212 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 4: this time, and I learned about skateboarding kind of like 213 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 4: the tricks and stuff from playing the video game. And 214 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 4: one day it was like summer, my mom came home 215 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 4: and she was like, all, y'all do is play the 216 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 4: video game? Like y'all need to go outside? And I 217 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 4: was We were like, we don't have no money. So 218 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 4: she gave us like sixty dollars each and then we 219 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 4: walked the target and bought skateboards. And then from there 220 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 4: I just kept skating and skating, and I was probably 221 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 4: like nine ten at the time. I didn't really know 222 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 4: I could maybe make money off of it. Till I 223 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 4: was like fourteen, I started getting paid. Yeah, what's Upbreme? 224 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 5: Before you said with Supreme, what was your connection to 225 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 5: like fashion and like the arts, because I think you 226 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 5: talked about people in your uh in skateboard and make 227 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 5: money based off of kind of like your look and 228 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 5: kind of like the brand people know you for, like 229 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 5: your look, your brand, your fashion as well too, Like 230 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 5: what was that connection before you started getting too brand news. 231 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm raised in New York, I'm Bronx Harlem, 232 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 4: so I feel like, just like styling, all of that 233 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 4: has been around. So just watching my family and stuff 234 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 4: grow up, I was always getting fly and stuff, so 235 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 4: I feel like my mom always kept me in like 236 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 4: good clothes and stuff, so I will always have like 237 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 4: cool gear to skating. And then I guess that you know, 238 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 4: potentially uh moved on into me skating in it and 239 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 4: then getting noticed and then yeah, how. 240 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 6: Did you convince you your mom that you know this 241 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 6: could actually be a profession. 242 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 4: I had to beg her, honestly. I remember when the 243 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 4: first deals was coming around, even signing was supreme, Like 244 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 4: the money was so small. Like she was like, they're 245 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 4: trying to play you that you look up on Google 246 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 4: they were I think at the time it was forty 247 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 4: million definitely for me. Yeah, she was like, they're not 248 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 4: about to play my son. Da da da da, And 249 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 4: I used to like cry. I had to beg her, 250 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 4: like just please trust me, like I'm not doing this 251 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 4: for money. I would do it for free, like this 252 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 4: is like it's gonna come. I just have to like 253 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 4: build my name. I knew that if I like grind 254 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 4: it one day, I could potentially make money and like 255 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 4: make some some real money. But it wasn't really about 256 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 4: the money to me at that time. You know, I 257 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 4: was just young, and I was like, I would do 258 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 4: this for free, so you know, I just needed the opportunity. 259 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 6: I love stories like this because you know, I always say, 260 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 6: you just got to listen to your kids, and your 261 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 6: kids will tell you exactly what it is that they 262 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 6: want to do. So you was playing this skate game 263 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 6: and then when you got this money, you went out 264 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 6: and you bought this skateboard. 265 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: Like what was in your mind. 266 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 6: Like what was on your spirit that said, I know, 267 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 6: this is what I want to do for the rest 268 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 6: of my Like this is what's going to change the 269 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 6: trajectory in my life. 270 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 4: Well, I remember it was like a definitive moment where 271 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 4: I like made a decision and I was young. I 272 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 4: wanted to be a wrestler and I wanted to be 273 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 4: Spider Man too, Like that's what I was into. Like 274 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: I used to have, like I used to like really 275 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 4: like Spider Man. I thought that that was a profession 276 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 4: and Peter Parker, Nah, Toby Maguire, that was that was that, yeah, 277 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 4: Peter Parker. And then I wanted to be a wrestler 278 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 4: as well. And then but I was skating, so I 279 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 4: would like. I was like, my mom was like, which 280 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 4: one are you good to be? And then I was 281 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 4: just like we moved back to the Bronx and I 282 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I'm gonna just skate like that was 283 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 4: the most fun to me, and I just stuck with that. 284 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 6: So yeah, and it was a period where it's like 285 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 6: hip hop really, I guess kind of made skateboarding. I 286 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 6: guess I'm not cool, or maybe we would. I'm not 287 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 6: gonna say cool because it was already cool, but when 288 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 6: the hip hop artist started doing it, it kind of 289 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 6: made it easier for you as a black kid. 290 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 4: Yeah right, Yeah, for sure. I feel like growing up 291 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 4: in the Bronx and stuff, people be like make references 292 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:07,479 Speaker 4: Tony Hawk obviously well skated low Wayne. 293 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 294 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 4: I feel like but even though like Loop A, he's known, 295 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 4: but I feel like certain people where I'm from, at 296 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 4: least I'm not gonna say they don't know Loupe, but 297 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 4: that that's not like first to mine, Like they would 298 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 4: probably be like yeah, like Wayne and they would say push, 299 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: But I don't I don't think they put two and 300 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 4: two together, like you know what I'm saying, Like, I 301 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 4: don't know if they even know who sing that song. 302 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 4: It was just more like a famous song. 303 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: What did that do for skateboarding culture from your perspective. 304 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 4: I mean that was already like out, so I didn't 305 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 4: see it firsthand. But I don't think skateboarding was accepted 306 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 4: where I grew up, Like it was like people used 307 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 4: to just like kind of laugh and thought it was 308 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 4: like funny that I skated, but I was into it. 309 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 4: But I remember I kind of lived like two lives, 310 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 4: like because you know, I grew up in New York 311 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 4: and like having like family and streets and stuff, so 312 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 4: they always kept me fly. So when I would go 313 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 4: to school, I would wear like Jordans and like stuff 314 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 4: like that. But then I would go home and like 315 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 4: put on my skate clothes, and it was kind of 316 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 4: like I had a double life. Like I would go 317 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 4: to school in the Bronx and like this crazy environment 318 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: and then I would like go home change my clothes 319 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 4: take the train all the way downtown, and it was 320 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 4: like a different world from me. Like it was white people, 321 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 4: Asian people, all different type of races just brought together 322 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 4: by skateboard and it's not really like color and skateboarding, 323 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 4: Like it's just like everybody kind of having fun, so 324 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 4: that it. 325 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: Was into it a lot too. Like I would always 326 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: see I feel like that people always thought. 327 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: Skateboarders was soft. 328 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I would always see skateboard as fuck somebody 329 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: up all the time. The skateboards beat somebody's ass and 330 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: beat somebody's car. 331 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: Did y'all always get in. 332 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: The problems of trouble when people thought y'all were soft 333 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: or cut y'all off or. 334 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 4: If it's sure, definitely, I think like people don't associate 335 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 4: skateboar board and like being tough. But you know, it's 336 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 4: just like that's anything. You know. I'm not saying that 337 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 4: people walk around like I'm a tough guy, but nigga's 338 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 4: not soft. It's just like, but like a skateboard is 339 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 4: a weapon. If you hit somebody with a weapon, Like 340 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 4: I've known people who hit people with skateboards and like 341 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 4: put them in a coma, Like you don't even play 342 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 4: with that, Like it's like a metal object that could 343 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 4: really hurt somebody. So that's like if you have to 344 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 4: do that. But obviously, like you see in kids, they 345 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 4: hit the guy with the skateboard and stuff. It's happened, 346 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 4: but it's really dangerous. 347 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 6: It's funny too. You said you used to get fly, 348 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 6: but then you go home and dress like a skater. 349 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 6: But there was a time where that was getting fly 350 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 6: for some people. 351 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I remember the transition. Like at first, 352 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 4: like I used to wear a state skates like skate stuff, 353 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 4: and they would be like, that's like you look like 354 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 4: a white boy or whatever. But then it kind of 355 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 4: like got popular, you know, with like streetwear and all 356 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 4: that stuff, and then it was more accepted. So it 357 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 4: was funny to see the transition. But it's dope when 358 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 4: you know. To me, some skaters don't like it when 359 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 4: they feel like people come into the culture, but I 360 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 4: think it's cool. It brings more odds to the sport 361 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 4: and all of that stuff. 362 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 5: So it was Virgil. I read that Virgil. You and 363 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 5: Virgil Ablow had a really good relationship. Yeah, we were 364 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 5: cool taking a streetwear. 365 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we were actually working on something before he 366 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 4: passed away. It never came to light. But yeah, virtual 367 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 4: was cool. We would talk and we were going to 368 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 4: do a collaboration with my brand and off White that 369 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 4: we were working on. But yeah, his untimely demise, Yeah, 370 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 4: it never came out. 371 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 6: When stuff like that happens, do you just let the 372 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 6: whole idea die? 373 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: Do you? 374 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 4: I mean I really didn't have a I didn't know 375 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: what to do, you know at that time was it 376 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 4: twenty twenty one. I remember my modeling agent called me 377 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 4: and told me. But I wasn't going to be like, 378 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 4: you know, people are grieving and stuff like that. I'm 379 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 4: not going to reach out to his family or like, yo, 380 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 4: we you know, sorry for your loss. But by the 381 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 4: way we were working on it, that yeah, exactly. At 382 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 4: that point to me, it's like, you know, they if 383 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 4: somebody from his team knew about it and they and 384 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 4: they reached out and was like I knew you guys 385 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 4: were working on this, like we want to continue it. 386 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 4: But that never happened, and it's okay, you know. 387 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 2: Much do you have to hurt yourself to get as 388 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: good as you've gotten? How many injuries, broken. 389 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 4: Bones, knock on wood? I never really I never broke 390 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 4: a bone, but you obviously you fall and stuff like. 391 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 4: I just think skateboarding teaches like it's like a life lesson, 392 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 4: Like you have to keep going to get over the hurdle, 393 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, if I had 394 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 4: a dollar for every time I've heard like, yeah, I 395 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 4: tried skateboarding once, but I fell and I quit, you 396 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Because people don't like to fall 397 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 4: once or twice and then they're just like, oh, that hurt, 398 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 4: But like, you get used to it. It's like working out. 399 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 4: When you first start working out, your body's really sore, 400 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 4: and you keep doing it, and you keep doing it 401 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 4: and you get used to it and you learn you 402 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 4: just have to like wanna you know what I'm saying, 403 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 4: and strive to get better. 404 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 3: I was asking, you, know, what do you do to 405 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 3: push the limit, right, because I've seen a lot of 406 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 3: things you did. You work with Louis Baton, right, you. 407 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: With Steven Victims, arise in front of the house. 408 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: I see you jump over a million dollar Ferraris in 409 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: the middle of Manhattan. So what do you do to 410 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: push the limit for the next generation that you know, 411 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: things that we haven't seen or things that you want 412 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: to do. 413 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,719 Speaker 4: I just think it's limitless, you know, like even like 414 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 4: to the Ferrari. Let's just use that as an example. 415 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 4: Like I try to when I skate I want to 416 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 4: like make it relatable because skateboarding, to me is so 417 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 4: what's the word. It's just like you don't understand it. 418 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 4: You just see like somebody flying in the air. And 419 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 4: I think that skateboarding gets like culturally, it's like accepted 420 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 4: because people understand it's cool, and it's like the like 421 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 4: you know, like I don't know, some people won't call 422 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 4: it a sport, but it's the sport that like the 423 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 4: outsiders because you do it alone. It's an individual whe 424 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 4: like basketball or something like that. As a team and 425 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 4: you go to a stadium and stuff like that, and 426 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 4: it's more you could dissect it easier. Like you know, 427 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 4: somebody's running down the court, they pass, they shoot, it's two, 428 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 4: it's three, you know what I'm saying. Skateboard and you 429 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 4: can't learn everything. It's impossible because there's like combos. You 430 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 4: could jump onto this table and man, you and this that. 431 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So it's literally impossible to 432 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 4: be able to do every trick, so and I think 433 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 4: that's why I gravitated to it as well, because you know, 434 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 4: to me, I like to keep setting a bar, but you. 435 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: Still learn new tricks, you still do new things. 436 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 4: Or oh man, it's kind of hard because I mean 437 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 4: I try to learn new tricks. Sometimes I get new tricks, 438 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 4: but now I'm at a point like you know, it's 439 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 4: a gift in the curves, but I go to the 440 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 4: skatepark and people watch me, so it's kind of like, 441 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So it's kind of like 442 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 4: a little like weird sometimes trying to learn a trick 443 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 4: because people look at you at this point like you're 444 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 4: a professional, like they thinking they're mind Like you probably 445 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 4: could just land everything. So when you're trying to like 446 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 4: go into the like I'm trying to train, kind of 447 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 4: vibe at like a public place and somebody might be 448 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 4: filming you, or this is just kind of hard, you 449 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. You don't see you know, Luca 450 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 4: in the park practicing, you know what I'm saying. He 451 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 4: has a private facility where he's training and he could 452 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 4: try to learn new things. So I'm working on that 453 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 4: right now to try to get a private indoor skate park, 454 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 4: so I could practice. Are there new tricks though, I 455 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 4: mean yeah, not new tricks, but tricks you probably haven't done, 456 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like I mean, I'm sorry 457 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 4: to keep referring back to basketball, but like you know, 458 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 4: somebody might not be able to go left as easy 459 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 4: or see what I'm saying, So they could practice that, 460 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 4: or they can't dunk through their let you know what 461 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 4: I'm saying. So it's impossible to know everything. You know, 462 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 4: as good as you are, you could always progress, so 463 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 4: you know. 464 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 5: I know Charlotte aks about what was the LV the 465 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 5: friend of the house thing. I told them people to 466 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 5: explain it and for real brought you into that. Was 467 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 5: it because of the virgin of a relationship or just 468 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 5: because he's been like watching what you've been doing. 469 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 4: I'm sure. I don't know if it's because of the 470 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 4: virgin relationship. I think he's just a fan of skateboarding. 471 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 4: He obviously skateboards. He likes the sport and the culture, 472 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 4: and probably thought I was a good representative for the 473 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 4: brand and bad I guess I'm sponsored by Louis Vuitton. 474 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: Events with them, yeah, events close go to the shows, 475 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 4: campaigns stuff like that. 476 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 6: So yeah, money, black people accepted into skating, Like is 477 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 6: it one of those things where it's. 478 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 4: Just yeah, I think black people skate is accepted as 479 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 4: skating for sure. I mean I don't think there's like 480 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 4: a lot of professional black skaters maybe like twenty twenty five, 481 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 4: but yeah, we're accepted for sure. 482 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 6: And what's the evolution of skateboarding and really the evolution 483 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 6: of you? Because you know what, I hear things like 484 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 6: skateboards coming out of like with are you in that? 485 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: They're gonna be. 486 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm in Tony Hawk coming out, so 487 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 4: that's cool. They got a new one, a remastering, so 488 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 4: that's about to come out. I was in the last one. 489 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 4: The evolution of skateboard, that's a great question. I don't know. 490 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 4: It's in the Olympics now, you know. I just think 491 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 4: it's getting bigger and better, Like Louis Vuitton is sponsoring it. 492 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 4: So I'm excited to see where it goes, and maybe 493 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 4: it does get to a place where it's like a 494 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 4: basketball or football and people really dive into it more 495 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 4: and look at it and you know, try to understand 496 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 4: it a little bit more. Besides just like skateboarders are 497 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 4: cool or like have like a fashion aspect to them. 498 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 4: So honestly, the it's unknown where it could go. I 499 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 4: think this guy's the limit. 500 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 6: And Tony Hawk's still the guy guy right like he 501 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 6: is he the godfather of it. 502 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 4: All, for sure. It's interesting we had I was having 503 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 4: a conversation somebody. It's interesting that he's the only like 504 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 4: he made it it like really mainstream. Like when people 505 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 4: think of skateboarding, they refer to yeah, but it's only 506 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 4: been one Like you don't, like imagine music, when people 507 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 4: thought of rap, they just like Biggie Biggie. You want 508 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 4: to be like Biggie, But there's a thousand rappers, you 509 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So that just goes to show 510 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 4: like how like skateboarding is just weird in that way 511 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 4: that it hasn't been Like everybody who's like super famous 512 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 4: off skateboarding, they got famous doing other things. Like Tony Hawk, 513 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 4: he's so famous because of the video games. Rob deer 514 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 4: Deck is Rob Deardeck because he had the TV show. 515 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 4: So I think there's always another element to like getting 516 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 4: over to that real mainstream level, you know what I'm saying. 517 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 4: I don't think anybody ever successfully did it just being 518 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 4: a skateboarder. 519 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 6: That's how you know somebody famously. I'm watching the super 520 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 6: Bowl commercials, the DraftKings commercials. 521 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: I think it was this weekend? What did this weekend? 522 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: Last week? Last weekend? 523 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 6: And it was like it was Kevin Hart was in it, 524 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 6: the Undertaker and Emmitt Smith and Ludacris and Doctor J and. 525 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 2: Tony Hawk, you know what I mean. 526 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 6: And I'm just like, you don't even think about it, 527 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 6: but that's just how famous he is. 528 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: Because I'm not in the state. 529 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 4: He's a name at this point, it's like he's he's huge. 530 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 2: He's actually said to myself, Damn, Tony Hawk got old. 531 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 4: Yea Tony Hawk is grown. So I mean, that's what 532 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 4: I was when I was having a conversation with my peoples. 533 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 4: He was like, who's going to carry that sword forward? 534 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that's going to be me or whatever, 535 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 4: you know, but it would be interesting to see who's 536 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 4: able to obtain that level next, you know what I'm saying, 537 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 4: Who's going to be the next generation of skateboarding that 538 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 4: the Charlemagne or the Envs like you want to be? 539 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because it only it only 540 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 4: refers back to Tony Hawk. 541 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: I don't even know how I know Tony Hawk. 542 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 4: Exactly video games. 543 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: I mean, he's I really don't know. I'm just I'm 544 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: knowing my whole life, but I don't know. I'm like, 545 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: why do I. 546 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: Feel like he's like Shack at this point or like 547 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 4: a Snoop Dogg, Like he gets like endorsements, like he's 548 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 4: like on a I don't know, like what's the acts commercials? 549 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 4: So you know what I'm saying. So like he's like 550 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 4: miss in like Middle America and all of these places 551 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 4: because like they really watch TV and you know, all 552 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 4: of those things. 553 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: When do it gets you to that? 554 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 4: I think again, it has to be another element because 555 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 4: I think skateboarding you don't understand it. It's just flying 556 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 4: in the sky. Are you doing a trick? Or he 557 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 4: jumped down some stairs or oh that looked crazy? You 558 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. If you don't skateboard, you don't 559 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 4: understand it, right, So. 560 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 5: You know, yeah, do you like because it's not a 561 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 5: lot of black skateboarders, do you ever have issues sometimes 562 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 5: where like people are like there's discrimination, racism, like that 563 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 5: type of thing, Like do you come up against that 564 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 5: at all, it seems like, I mean, that seems like 565 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 5: you're doing very well. You have all the major brands, 566 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 5: but even with like the LV thing, you know, there's 567 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 5: always like the push for more black in the couture spaces, 568 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 5: but you're a couture in that world and you also skateboarder, 569 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 5: and people always you know, we don't know much about 570 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 5: the skateboarding. 571 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 4: I wouldn't say like in a brand space. I mean, 572 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 4: obviously I've experienced like weird things throughout my career. I've 573 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 4: been in skating since I was thirteen, you know, but 574 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 4: it was maybe from like other pro skaters, but you know, 575 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 4: it was not like from like companies or anything. I 576 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 4: would say, but you know, I wouldn't make it like 577 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 4: a race thing, like oh, it's so like diverse, but 578 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 4: certain things happen sometimes when you're in spaces and stuff, 579 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 4: and it wasn't like anything super catastrophic, but like, you know, I. 580 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 5: Just wonder because I don't hear much about it, Like 581 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 5: you don't hear much about like with the NFL, there's 582 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 5: so much conversations and NBA don't I've never heard anything. Yeah, 583 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 5: skateboard m hm. You gotta rage against the machine. 584 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that if there is like 585 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 4: skateboarding is so small that like even if there are 586 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 4: things that did happen, people don't really want to speak 587 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 4: up because skateboarding is like controlled by like the people, 588 00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 4: the ogs, who had the market for so long. I 589 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 4: was like, if you come out and you're like maybe controversial, 590 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 4: then they could just like clip you. 591 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 6: And I love your hoodie because you know the Simpsons. 592 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 6: That's another reason I think the skateboarding so much because 593 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 6: of that any influence. 594 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 4: Nah, it was really just a video game. I don't know. 595 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 4: This was a gift from a friend. But yeah, I 596 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 4: never really watched the Simpsons, like a couple of episodes, 597 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 4: but yeah, yeah, yeah, that's like famous for sure. 598 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: How did you connect with Stephen Victim through a friend? 599 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 4: I called a friend and I was like, I'm looking 600 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 4: for a Ferrari or like a sports car that I 601 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 4: want to jump over. I was like, I know your 602 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 4: friend has some. Do you think he would like let 603 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 4: me rent one from him and do it. He's like, 604 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 4: let me call you back, and I was like all right. 605 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 4: He called me back like immediately, and he was We 606 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,239 Speaker 4: were on three way and he was like, so tell 607 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 4: him what you want to do and I was like, uh, 608 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 4: I want to like jump over your car with a skateboard. 609 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 4: Would you let me rent it. I'll like put some insurance, 610 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 4: like I'll put some money down in case something happens. 611 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 4: And he was like, nah, that's what insurance is for. 612 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: And I was like all right, it's crazy. 613 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 4: And he's like he's like that sounds fire. Like let's 614 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 4: do it. Let's meet. And my friend had been coming 615 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 4: to New York because he was living in LA and 616 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 4: he was like, we're going to go to his office. 617 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 4: And then we came to his office and he was 618 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 4: he was like, so, what do you want to do again? 619 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 4: And I was like just telling him. Like he's like, 620 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 4: you think you could do it? I was like yeah, 621 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 4: I think so, like for sure. And then he's like 622 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 4: all right, we're going to set it up this week 623 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 4: and then like three days later we made it happen. 624 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 4: It was just something I wanted to do, like I 625 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 4: just have, you know, random ideas. 626 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 3: Like that wasn't a typical Ferrari because one a very 627 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 3: few to call a friend who gets Stephen Victor on 628 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 3: the phone about probably four million right now, it has 629 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 3: no top. It's it's one of those ones that there 630 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 3: is no fixing it. 631 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: You fucked that up. 632 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: It's a rat But it was. 633 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 4: But that's why you say. You make it sound like that. 634 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 4: But it was innocent. It wasn't like so premeditated, like 635 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 4: I wanted to do it, but I didn't know that 636 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 4: it was gonna be like that. You know what I'm saying, 637 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 4: Like I didn't know, not even just the car. I 638 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 4: didn't know that, like people would gravitate to it so crazy. 639 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 4: I thought, you know what I'm saying, but it resonates 640 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 4: you know exactly how I said, Like you don't know tricks, 641 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 4: but you know that car. You get what I'm saying. 642 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 4: So in your mind you like, oh shit, he just 643 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 4: jumped over a four million dollar car. You know what 644 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 645 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: The way I first saw it, I just thought it 646 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: was the car was parking. 647 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 2: You just did it roll. 648 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 649 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 3: Then when I found out that, I said, Steven is crazy. Yeah, 650 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 3: I don't know what he got too much money. 651 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: For all that. 652 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 6: Basically, Stephen Victor, charge you ten to fifteen percent for 653 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 6: the rest of your life. 654 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 4: We made up. We made a moment. You know, it's 655 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 4: trying to make more. 656 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,239 Speaker 3: We appreciate thank you for joining us. Thank you so much, man, 657 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 3: appreciate it. Thank you for having me, keeping couraging kids. 658 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 2: Man. And I'm gonna be honest with you. 659 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 6: You the only skateboarder I know right now, so I'm 660 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 6: gonna be watching you and in my mind you Tony Hawk. 661 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 6: So when I bring up skateboard now, I'm yeah, tas 662 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 6: Shawn jonesilling it out here. 663 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 2: That's right. 664 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, thank you for having me. And 665 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 4: it's a real full circle moment. I'm not gonna I 666 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 4: watched Breakfast Club on YouTube, like I'll be on YouTube 667 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 4: when I go home and I watch you got stuff. 668 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,239 Speaker 4: So I really appreciate you having me. 669 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: I was gonna bring a skateboard to see if you 670 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 3: could teach us all a trick, but we're too old 671 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 3: for that. 672 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 6: We hurt. 673 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 4: When I get hurt, me get back when I get this, 674 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 4: when I get the skate park, y'all come through. 675 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: Say no more. 676 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: It's ta Shawn Jones. 677 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. 678 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: Good morning, Wake that ass up in the morning. 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