1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in our number three Clay Travis 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: We're scheduled to be joined by the Governor of Oklahoma, 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Kevin Stitt here at the bottom of the hour. Encourage you, 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: as always go grab the podcast make sure you don't 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: miss a moment of the first two hours. Also yesterday's 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: conversation with Alex Berenson, who has returned from the Twitter 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: band list and won a big legal victory over Twitter 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: latest on COVID. That was a really good conversation yesterday. 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: If you haven't checked out already, I would encourage you 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: to do so. So we were talking as we went 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: to break about I believe the ultimate battleground state in 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two if I had to just pick one, 15 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: and I know there are many, but if I had 16 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: to just pick one, it would be Georgia because you 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: have a big battle between Governor Brian Kemp of Georgia 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: and Stacy Abrahams on the governor race, and then you 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: have herschel Walker going up against the Reverend Raphael Warnock, 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: who is currently the Senator, and so you have a 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: big Senate race that could decide the fate of who 22 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: controls the Senate. And then you have a governor's race, 23 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: and if Stacy Abrams were to win, I think Brian 24 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: Kemp is right, she would use that as a stepping 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: stone to run for president from the state of Georgia. 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 1: Stacy Abrams sits buck on the board of a group 27 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: that has advocated to defund the police. This is the 28 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: Marguerite Casey Foundation. They have supported defunding the police. What 29 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: is interesting and I got to give the New York 30 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: Post credit on this. Stacy abrams Georgia campaign for governor 31 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: has spent five hundred and twenty thousand dollars and change 32 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: on security just since December of twenty twenty one to 33 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: April of twenty twenty two, So in basically a four 34 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: to five month window of this governor's campaign, Stacy Abrams 35 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: has average spending over one hundred thousand dollars a month 36 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: for private security protection. Your reaction to sitting on the 37 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: board defund the police, Stacy Abrams, who remember also wanted 38 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: all kids to be wearing masks since said Georgia is 39 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: the worst state to live in in the entire country. 40 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: The fact that she has spent over half a million 41 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: dollars on private security while saying that others don't deserve 42 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: the right to police, is what buck Sexton Well, obviously 43 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: we see the hypocrisy here, which is true of so 44 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: many of the gun grabbers. Anybody who has made a 45 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: big show in politics of their desire to make it 46 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: harder for law abiding people to get guns. At the 47 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: national level, if they're a big enough politician or a 48 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: rich enough guy or gal, you find that they have 49 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: armed security, sometimes privately paid for, but often paid for 50 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: by the taxpayer, And it makes you wonder, why aren't 51 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: those police, so to speak, defunded? You know, why is 52 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: it that there are some people who deserve to feel 53 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: safe as they walk around? I remember, even armed security 54 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: isn't a guarantee, right, So we could always say, because 55 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: they'll they'll tell people will conceal carry permit or being 56 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: able to open carry isn't something that necessarily will save you. 57 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: And they'll point to some case or statistic or whatever. Yeah, 58 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: but you got a shot. Yeah, you say you got 59 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: a chance, you have the possibility of it. But Stacy 60 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: Abrahams has built a massive career already on fraud and lies. 61 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this is actually completely on brand for the 62 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: woman who would be the actual governor of Georgia instead 63 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: of the fake governor of Georgia. If Democrats are able 64 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: to pull it off this fall, I certainly hope that 65 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: that is not the case. But there's also something really unsettling, 66 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 1: to put it mildly, about the mentality of so many 67 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: of these Democrats right now who act like, defund the police. Okay, 68 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: they're not yelling it anymore, they're not shouting it the 69 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: same way that was a maniacal civilization destroying idea. Getting 70 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: rid of cops in America today would destroy our society 71 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: faster than almost anything. Maybe getting rid of all fossil 72 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: fuels would destroy it faster actually, because we would just 73 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: all starve. But getting rid of police is crazy, and 74 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: I will say it is one of one of my 75 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 1: big disappointments with the way, you know, the American people 76 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: voted the last time around in twenty twenty. Instead of 77 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: being in a moral panic about racial politics, they should 78 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: have seen that the BLM movement and defund the police 79 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: was going to be disastrous for everybody, particularly black Americans, 80 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: particularly minorities who live in high crime neighborhoods, and it 81 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: was and there has been no no real accountability for 82 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: this yet, Clay, you know, it's almost tough to pick. 83 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: We talk about COVID, what they did on defund the police. 84 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: I would also argue that alone should be enough for 85 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: them to get destroyed. If there aren't rivers of Democrat 86 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,119 Speaker 1: tiers on election day, we haven't done our jobs. I'll 87 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 1: even defend the choice between At least initially with COVID, 88 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: there was some uncertainty about what was the best choice 89 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: to make. Defunding the police never had any legitimate basis whatsoever. 90 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: We knew what was going to happen, right because we 91 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: had seen high crime America before when we didn't support 92 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: our police. And so the fact that there are thousands 93 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: more people dead as a result is the consequence of 94 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: the fear. The fear that is out there of being 95 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: called racist is so pronounced, especially in highly educated white 96 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:21,119 Speaker 1: society in particular, that there is no willingness to even 97 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: mention any facts that might contradict the idea that American 98 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: racism is so founded in policing that we have to 99 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: do away with them. In order to make people safe. 100 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: The perfect distillation of this book. Remember when Senator Tom 101 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: Cotton wrote on the New York Times op ed page, 102 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: we should call in security, meaning the troops, to call 103 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: the National Guard, call the National Guarden to help deal 104 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: with all the rioting that was going on all over 105 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: this country. And they fired the New York Times editorial 106 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: page leader for even allowing that to occur. And then 107 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: it's the first thing that they did after January sixth happen. 108 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: They called in the National Guard and use them to 109 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: help provide security. But that idea, they said, calling in 110 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: the National Guard was racist because it would put minority 111 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: lives in danger to allow our national Guard to work. 112 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: And I'll be very clear with everybody, and I want 113 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: everyone to remember this. You won't hear this, I don't 114 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: think anywhere else. And it's important. The defund the police 115 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: ideology that the Left espouses is always actually situational. They 116 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: want to defund local law enforcement so that they're unable 117 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: to protect people from rapes, assaults, murders. You know, they 118 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: because we need to suffer through that as a society. 119 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: Because the Left us all crime as a collective problem. 120 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: It's not individuals who are voting law. They want to 121 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: do that, But Clay, they don't actually want to defund 122 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: the police when it comes to using the FBI. They 123 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: want to more bade the homes of the political enemies 124 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: of the regime. They don't want to defund police, not 125 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: in the slightest when it comes to wrestling pastors out 126 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: of their churches for exposing people to COVID by actually 127 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: trying to exercise their First Amendment constitutional rights. They have 128 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: no problem with police coming into arrest people for failure 129 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: to show a vaccine passport in New York City, which happened. 130 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: They have no problem with people being wrestled to the 131 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: ground on airplanes by cops for not wearing a mask. 132 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: So they're actually not even consistent among the defund the 133 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: police crowd. They want the force of the state, They 134 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: want the boot on your throat when they want it. 135 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: They just don't want there to actually be authority that 136 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: is armed and capable of enforcing the law to protect 137 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: us from everyday crime that we all have to suffer through. Yeah, 138 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: they're fine with people being tackled and arrested for not 139 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 1: wearing masks appropriately, but they're not okay with police pursuing 140 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: violent criminals aggressively, or with district attorneys bringing heavy levels 141 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: of charges against constantly cyclical violent criminals. It really is 142 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: a mind disease that is without any sort of justification 143 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: at all. In fact, I think defund the police is 144 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: the single dumbest political slogan of our lives in that 145 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: there is zero argument in favor of it. Buck, you 146 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: could say, hey, we need higher taxes because we want 147 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: to pay for X or y. I think climate change 148 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: is all bunk, as do you. But you can argue, hey, 149 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: as a part of the Green New Deal, we need 150 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: more windmills and solar energy or whatever. We can dispute that. 151 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: There is not a single argument that defund the police 152 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: in any way makes sense. And I want to also 153 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: remind everybody Clay that defund was the workshopped phrase. Defund 154 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: was the one that they actually were. The anti cop left, 155 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: which at its core just believe they are racial Marxists. 156 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: They want they want to use the same tactics of 157 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: the radical Marxist of the past, but instead of class 158 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: it is along race lines. That is exactly what they do. 159 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: That's the whole that's the whole game. But but Clay 160 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: they're looking to pull apart our society and to do so, 161 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: they actually want to abolish police. Yes, and you heard AOC. 162 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: Remember she wasn't saying defund ice originally. She knows she's parrots, 163 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: that's her job. She just spouts the slogans of the 164 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: far left, and she was saying, abolish immigrations and customs enforcement. 165 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: And if you speak to people who are truly in 166 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: the leftist movement, they'll say, well, actually, I want to 167 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: be an abolitionist of police. Now, notice they use the 168 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: term abolitionist because of the connection to the righteous cause 169 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: of the abolition of slavery. And then you look at 170 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: the sixteen nineteen project, for example, which had a whole 171 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: part which had this whole connection of where do police 172 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: come from slave patrols? This was the argument that left 173 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: was making. So it was actually the abolition of police 174 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: that they were hoping to get to, and defund was 175 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: a midway stop. And you and I are sitting here 176 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: saying defund the police is insane, and it's directly leading 177 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: to thousands of people who would otherwise have been alive 178 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: being dead. The rate of violent crime that has a 179 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: majority of the people who are vast majority of the 180 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: underman of cops are black. Young Black man have died 181 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: because of this. Black Lives Matter has led to more 182 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: young Black deaths than any political movement in the twenty 183 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: first century by far, not even close. 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Clay and Buck Show is back. 208 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm Buck, He's Clay, got a lot to talk about. 209 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us, and we're gonna be joined 210 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: by Governor Kevin Stitt of Oklahoma just a few minutes. 211 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: But I did want to take a moment to make 212 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: note of this because the Democrats, one thing that's beginning 213 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: to sink in is that the overturning of Roe v. 214 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: Wade is not going to save their electoral fortunes. Doesn't 215 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,239 Speaker 1: seem like that's the case at all. Maybe a percentage 216 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: point here or there nationally, but nothing in the nature 217 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: of a major shift. But you're also still hearing things 218 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: from some very prominent Democrats that you should pay attention to. 219 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: You should understand who these people really are. Elizabeth Warren 220 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: is someone who I often just make fun of because 221 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: I do find her and remember, she is somebody who 222 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: built a career as a fake Native American. That is 223 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: just a statement of fact. It's absurd. She's absurd. But 224 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: she played the system and she you know, she dances 225 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: to the required tune to the left, and she says 226 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: the things she's supposed to say. She's worth like ten 227 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: million dollars and always talks about how she hates the rich, etc. 228 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: But when you hear her on the issue of abortion 229 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: and how she feels about crisis pregnancy centers, this I 230 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: heard this, and I listened to a lot of stuff 231 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: and really deep in the news all the time. This 232 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: was pretty chilling. Here in Massachusetts, these so called crisis 233 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: pregnancy centers outnumber of genuine abortion clinics by three to one. 234 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: They are giving it over to people who wish them 235 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: harm and that has to stop. We need to put 236 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: a stop to that in Massachusetts right now. I mean, 237 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: I've been to fundraisers for a well known a crisis 238 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: pregnancy center here that doesn't you know that that does 239 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: not support abortion trying to help women have their babies 240 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: here in New York. Notice Clay, She says wishes them harm. 241 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: And I want having to be clear. This is a 242 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: sitting US Senator in the state of Massachusetts, which still 243 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: has very liberal abortion laws, hasn't changed any of the 244 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: abortion laws in Massachusetts. Who's saying that places that say, hey, 245 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: you're under a lot of durests, we want to help you, 246 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: we want to give your resources. We'll get you medical care, 247 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: gonna get you counseling, to get you baby formula and 248 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: clothing and assistance for your child that is coming. Wish though, 249 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: those places wish those women harm. She sounds like a psychopath. 250 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: She is, And I don't think there has been enough 251 00:15:55,160 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: discussion surrounding the idea of how many Democrats support abortion 252 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: in the ninth month. This is murder. Let's be clear. 253 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: And if you don't want to talk about it in 254 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: the context of abortion for a moment, just take a 255 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: step back. And this analogy, I think is very difficult 256 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: for any Democrat to respond to. So I would just 257 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: use this one. If a mother is pregnant. I would 258 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: love to hear Elizabeth Warren answer this question. If a 259 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: mother is pregnant in her eighth or ninth month of 260 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: pregnancy and she is shot and killed and her fetus 261 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: inside of her, which otherwise would be viable, also dies. 262 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: Should that be considered a double homicide? My answer is yes, 263 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: because if you are the family of that woman who 264 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: is murdered, you are not just grieving for the loss 265 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: of that mother, You are grieving for the of her 266 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: child which is still inside of her as well. Would 267 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren believe that that should be a double murder? 268 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: I would love to hear her answer that question. Why then, 269 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: does she have a different perspective. I think she would 270 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: have to say, yes, that would be a double murder. 271 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: I think that's a double homicide because there are two 272 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: lives that have been taken. Why then would she be 273 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: okay with that same situation someone deciding that they don't 274 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: want to give birth to a viable baby in the 275 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 1: eighth or ninth month of pregnancy. To me, and this 276 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: is not just Elizabeth Warren, this is Tim Ryan, this 277 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: is Stacey Abrahams. These are Democrat politicians all over the 278 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: country saying that they believe in nine month abortions being legal. 279 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: That needs to be talked about and debated. That's what 280 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: rov Wade did, was it tossed this all back to 281 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: the States and buck. 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Get refunds dot Com, No risk, 300 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: high reward, Get refunds dot com Welcome back in Clay 301 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: your Avis buck Sexton show. We are joined now by 302 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: the Governor of Oklahoma, Kevin Stitt. Good to talk to 303 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: you again, Governor, and I want to start here because 304 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: I know this is something that you've been having to 305 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: deal with a large amount of time. Buck and I 306 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: have been teeing off on the idea that we are 307 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: losing any of our National Guard troops as well as 308 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,239 Speaker 1: any of our fighting men and women at all in 309 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: the armed forces over this COVID shot requirement, which every 310 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: single week and month gets more and more ridiculous. How 311 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: frustrating is it to you. I'm sure there are a 312 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: lot of Oklahoma's out there in the services that are 313 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: raising this issue with you, and I know you've fought 314 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 1: it yourself. How incredibly bad of a decision is this 315 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: by the Biden administration? Well, first off, thanks thanks for 316 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: having me on, and again it's just it's one more 317 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: example of this administration just having zero common sense. We 318 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: sued I wanted to protect the National Guard that report 319 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: directly to me as the commander in chief in Oklahoma. 320 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: He said, We're not going to dishonorably discharge anyone we 321 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: think it's absolutely ridiculous to force someone to get a 322 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: shot that may have a thirty day you know, affect 323 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: effective rate of getting COVID. And if you think about it, 324 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: there's sixty thousand people that will be discharged from the army. 325 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: We lost fifty eight thousand soldiers in Vietnam and one 326 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: day we've lost more people from just an absolute political 327 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: stunt by this administration. It is just unbelievable. It's a 328 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: national security issue, and I just think about these brave 329 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: men and women that are serving our country and serving 330 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: our states in the National Guard, and are paying for 331 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: college and want to serve their state, and now they're 332 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: being forced to get out of the military because of 333 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: a political stunt, and it's just it's just ridiculous as 334 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: far as we're concerned. In Oklahoma. Hey, Governor Stid it's Buck. 335 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: Thanks again for being with us. And you know, we 336 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: talk a lot on this show about some of the 337 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: polices in the larger population red states like Florida and Texas. 338 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: And then because Clay's at Tennessee and obviously we hone 339 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: in on that one too. I mean, you're speaking to 340 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: people all across the country, but certainly in your home state. 341 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: Of Oklahoma as well. We've got KTOK Oklahoma City, and 342 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: KAKC and Tulsa, great stations, heritage stations there with big audiences. 343 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: We want to just give you an opportunity to tell folks, 344 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: what have you been doing in your state when it 345 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: comes to COVID, when it comes to getting the economy 346 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: back on track, when it comes to a rule of 347 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: law and the protections therein. What should people know about 348 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: what Oklahoma has been doing because they know about Florida 349 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: and Texas if they listen to this show, Yeah, well 350 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: we're glad Florida and Texas can be following Oklahoma's lead 351 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: through this entire process. But you know, basically, here's the deal. 352 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of the conservative states in US, 353 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: in Oklahoma, you don't put your constitution in the attic 354 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: when there's a pandemic and just because someone in Washington, 355 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: d C. Says that you should act a certain way. 356 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: And so we've believed in freedom's personal responsibility. As one 357 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: of the few governors that did not declare a mass 358 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: mandate statewide, we kept our schools open, we kept our 359 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: businesses open all through the pandemic, and we kept people safe. 360 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: I was transparent with all the data. We gave all 361 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: of our hospitals, the PPE everything that they needed, but 362 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: we weren't going to shut our schools down. Now people 363 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: are waking up to the learning loss that happened from 364 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: some of these blue states that closed down their schools, 365 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: and now Oklahoma, just like Texas and Tennessee, in South 366 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: Carolina and Florida, our economy's booming. We have the lowest 367 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: unemployment in our state's history. I have the largest savings 368 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: account we've ever had. We've got some business principles that 369 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: we're making Oklahoma the most business friendly state. I cut 370 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: taxes last year for every business, every single individual, and 371 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: just could not be more proud of the migration that's 372 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: moving to our state and the economy's booming here. You 373 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: mentioned that I think is reason alone to vote read 374 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: in November, and I know many of our listeners are 375 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: still fired up about it. All over the country you're 376 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: seeing now. I saw Joe Biden tweet I think it 377 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: was yesterday or the day before. Due to the pandemic, 378 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: we saw a great amount of reading and math learning 379 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: loss among students. I know there are certain public school 380 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: districts in your state Tulsa, for example, that shut down 381 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 1: for a long time. I think Tulsa was down like 382 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: three hundred days. How infuriating is it to you, as 383 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: the chief executive of a state like Oklahoma to have 384 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: these teachers, unions and these left wing city mayor and 385 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: administrators in these schools who took this opportunity to take 386 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: away learning from kids who needed it the most. Frankly, well, 387 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: that's exactly right. And the hypocrisy from the folks from 388 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: the left, and I mean governors of certain states literally 389 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: close their schools down while they're kids were in private 390 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: schools the whole time. We had the same thing happen 391 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: in some of our big school districts. But yeah, Tulsa 392 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: public schools was closed for over three hundred days. I 393 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: hammered them every single day, had to fight my own 394 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: superintendent of education because they were siding with the unions 395 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: and keeping things closed. And I'm telling you, if you 396 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: had to, if anybody any of your listeners were the 397 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,719 Speaker 1: governor and had to talk to the single moms, the 398 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: single dads, the parents that called my office and would say, Governor, 399 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: it's not fair. My first grader is not learning how 400 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: to read via zoom and across the street of the 401 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: different school districts. They were in school the whole time, 402 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: and it just broke your heart. That's why we need 403 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: parents to have more choice. That's why I stand with 404 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: parents to give them options to move to schools that 405 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: better fit their needs. And maybe you're just simply open, 406 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: but we want to fund students, not systems in Oklahoma. 407 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: And you're seeing that move all across the country right now. 408 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: And you know people are they want to educate their kids, 409 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: not indoctrinate their kids, and so we want to We're 410 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: trying to lead the way in Oklahoma, and I know 411 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: a lot of other common sense states are doing the 412 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: same thing. Speaking in Governor Kevin Stith of Oklahoma, Governor state, 413 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: are are you the first governor of a state who 414 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: is a registered member of a Native American tribe? Do 415 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: I have that right? You know, That's what I've been told. Yeah, 416 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: We're proud of our heritage. I'm a member of the 417 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: Cherokees here in Oklahoma, and you know, so proud of that. 418 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: About ten percent of our population is part in Native 419 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: here in the great state of Oklahoma. Just injuring, I 420 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: feel like I haven't seen the Washington Post do a 421 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: big cover story on our first Native American governor, which 422 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: seems kind of strange. Yeah, well, this means you have 423 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: a lot in common, Governor with Elizabeth Warren, right, I 424 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: mean pokahonas herself. Yeah, well, you know, I think she 425 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: was born in Oklahoma City. But that's about as far 426 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: as our as our connection goes, that's for sure. And 427 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: so what are you planning going forward here, Governor? I mean, 428 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: since your state is doing well right now, when things 429 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: are going well, you want to run up the scoreboard, right, 430 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: you want to get more things done. And I know 431 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: there are a number of Republican governors and hopefully incoming 432 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: Republican governors, who are seeing how much state governance can 433 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: really help books at a time when they're having trouble 434 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: paying their gas, paying for the gas for the cars, 435 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: and food bills and rent and mortgage and everything. Because 436 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: of many decisions made at the federal level by the 437 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: Biden administration, it feels like it's going against them. What 438 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: are you planning to do here at the state level? 439 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: And I know there's some other red states. You're talking 440 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: to those governors too, to see how we can show 441 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: that things can work for you, things can get better. 442 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: What are your plans? Yeah, well, in Oklahoma, things you're 443 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 1: going well. I mean, inflation is hurting us like it 444 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: is everywhere across America. Everyday, working families are paying more 445 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: with the gas pump at the grocery store. And really, 446 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: if we could just spend just a minute to talk 447 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: about that, why that happened, and really we were energy independence. 448 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: It's a national security issue. We were energy independence a 449 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. This administration is so far removed 450 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: from common sense it's amazing to us because they choke 451 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: off supply, they kill the Keystone pipeline, they make it 452 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: impossible to drill. But here's the problem. Demand is the same. 453 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: We're still driving to work, driving our kids to soccer 454 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: practice and to school every day. We're heating our homes 455 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: and our businesses. So when you choke off supply, the 456 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: price that the pump is going to go up, the 457 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: price that everything at the grocery store goes up. We 458 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: need inflation relief. I've asked, I've called my legislature back 459 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: for a special session to lower the taxes again, to 460 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: remove the grocery tax. So we're doing some things to 461 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: help Oklahoma's but we need to put pressure on the 462 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: federal government to make sure that they unleash companies in 463 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: America and in states like Oklahoma to meet the needs 464 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: of our citizens, because every president of the United States 465 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy three has had an energy independence policy 466 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: until this administration. And there's solution is to buy oil 467 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: from Russia to meet the demands of Americans. And so again, 468 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: it just doesn't make sense if you have a logical conversation, 469 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: but you can't with some of these folks that literally 470 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: it feels like they're just trying to harm America. We're 471 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: talking to Governor Kevin Stead of Oklahoma. Governor, I'm sure 472 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: you saw that Gavin Newsom bought ads in Florida saying 473 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: that California was the real home for freedom in the 474 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: United States. Now you are in Oklahoma, right smack dab 475 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: in the middle part of the country, pretty much almost 476 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: equidistant from California and from Florida. What do you think 477 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: your constituents think about Gavin Newsom selling the idea that 478 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: California is the home of freedom and Florida is the 479 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: home of basically the confinement. That's how delusional the left 480 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: is because everybody knows that Florida is one of the 481 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: free estates in the country of Santis is doing a 482 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: fantastic job. Um, that guy in California he needs to 483 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: he needs to focus on his homeless problem and people 484 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: uh leaving leaving California, uh in in droves instead of 485 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: trying to recruit people from Florida because it's certainly not 486 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: gonna work. But uh, I think all the U hauls 487 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: are down in Florida that have left California, and that's 488 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: why he's trying to get some of them back. Governor, 489 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: who wins Oklahoma or Oklahoma State in uh in the 490 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: football game this year? Well, you know, I went to 491 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, that's my alma mater, so uh but man 492 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: o u o us h oh us pretty good. But 493 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State got the better of him last year in bettelhum. 494 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: So it'll be good. You're ready. You're ready. You kind 495 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: of dodged that one of advantage to get in that 496 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: you're a year in alum as. Well, I'll let him 497 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: get away without a little controversy. Oklahoma State will win 498 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: two years in a row. We'll trump, We'll go over there, 499 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: good stuff. Governor will appreciate it. Thanks for hanging out 500 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: with us. Hey, thanks so much. Talk you soon. Oklahoma 501 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: Governor Kevin Stid jumping in right there on the cou Well, 502 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: see that. That's a tough one, Bucky. You know you 503 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: got to pick up winner, and then being an Oklahoma 504 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: state alum makes a little bit easier for him. Mike 505 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: Gundy has things rolling there right now. Verizon AT and 506 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: T T Mobile they like charging you a premium fee 507 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: every month for data you don't use. Guess what, no 508 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: need for it. 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Please check that out to subscribe 528 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: to our Clay and Buck youth squads out there, in 529 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: particular the the you know teenagers and college age folks. 530 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: If you're all over the YouTube, there's Clay and Buck 531 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: YouTube now, so do do follow us there and we 532 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: do have some video we're putting up there. Clay, this 533 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: story was interesting to me. I don't really. I'm more 534 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: it's more interesting that this even existed to me, or 535 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: rather the messaging of what was on these monuments. You 536 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: see this the Georgia. Speaking of Georgia, you're of investigation. 537 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: According to Fox here has released surveillance video in the 538 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: search of those are spawn Well for setting off an 539 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: explosion at the Georgia Guidestones monument, Yeah, which they say 540 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: they've now demolished. It was a granite tourist attraction in Elberton, Georgia, 541 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: which the state says it's known as America's Stonehenge, and 542 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: it was damaged after unknown individuals exploded exploded a detonation device. Interesting. 543 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: There was a ten part message that espoused the conservation 544 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: of mankind and future generations, but there was actually kind 545 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: of a weird I'm talking about now what was written 546 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: on this. I mean, clearly someone didn't like the messaging. 547 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: There was something about how we should limit the population 548 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: I think to five hundred million globally. It was this 549 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: airlic population bomb pardon the expression bomb situation where they're 550 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: they're kind of espousing that the only way to keep 551 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: the planet, you know, in stasis and staple, is if 552 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: we limit human population. Did you I didn't even know 553 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: this was a thing in Georgia until they blew it up, 554 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: and now I'm learning about it. I read about it. 555 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: I think the Wall Street Journal maybe had a piece 556 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: about it as a tourist attraction, but also that it 557 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: was kind of weird and people didn't understand exactly why 558 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: it existed, and it become very popular on the internet, 559 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: and then somebody just decided to blow it up. I 560 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: don't really understand all of the backstory here, but it 561 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: is kind of crazy. First of all, it's not that 562 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: similar to Stonehenge, So America's Stonehenge is not actually very 563 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: similar at all to stone Hinge. Stonehenge is so interesting 564 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: just to throw this out there because it is so 565 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: old yea, and because they moved these things before we had, 566 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: you know, excavators and all the thousands of things that 567 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: thousands of years old, as opposed to something that somebody 568 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: put up. I think in like the early two thousands 569 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: it was, I think it was. Was it the early 570 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: two thous yes? Is that right? Or was the seventies 571 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: when they got together? I don't know. I gotta I 572 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: gotta check that it's relatively recent. A lot of our 573 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: listeners were alive for this as opposed to Stonehenge. So 574 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: have you been to stone Hinge before? No, I gotta 575 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: go to the I've been. I mean it was you know, 576 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: do you think we should difference Johnson on by the way, 577 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: he's got some time on his hands now, you know, 578 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: I wonder who they're gonna pick now? Is the new 579 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: as the new leader in England? For those of you 580 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: who don't know, boris Johnson has officially stepped down. Hopefully 581 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's gonna follow him in soon, in in short order, 582 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: because effectively there is uh there is. Biden's power is 583 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: going to end in November, and we should mention we've 584 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: been hitting at this. There is now a report that 585 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: that tax increase is coming from the Democrats started appeasing 586 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: our big Nashville election party. I was all excited. I'm 587 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: excited about that. I'm not excited about tase at the 588 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: absolute latest time that they could do it. It is 589 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: inching closer and closer to a reality. They are recognizing. 590 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: Democrats are that they're not going to have power potentially 591 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: the White House and Congress again, maybe for a decade 592 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: or more, and so they're trying to ram through attacks. 593 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: Georgia Stonehean started in nineteen seventy nine. I'm seeing here, 594 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: and and it did have this this anti population growth 595 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: message on it. Did a lot of people go to 596 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: this thing? Was this? No? I mean, I've been going 597 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: to Georgia my whole life. I didn't even know this 598 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: existed till like three or four years ago. And then 599 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: it got popular on the internet, and it got so 600 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: popular on the internet that's some crazy dude decided he 601 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: had to blow it up. I guess so. I think 602 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: I think there is a there has been more attention 603 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: on this recently. I'm trying to figure Out'm trying to 604 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: learn more here, but anyway, you know, in general, I'm 605 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: not a fan of Malthusian the Malthusian ethos. What's been 606 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: proven to not be true. It's not true. Yeah, Oh wait, 607 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: you mean the consensus and the brilliant scientists who tell 608 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,720 Speaker 1: us that they can control our lives and control human 609 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: population because they know what the future holds are wrong. Clay. 610 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: This is a huge shock to anyone who doesn't know history, 611 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: and unfodly the consequences of all this. We talked about 612 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: going on yesterday in Holland, and now we got all 613 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: sorts of issues with Joe Biden going on Ben Didney 614 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: to Saudi Arabia just keeps getting worse. I think we 615 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: have Jesse Kelly joining us tomorrow to talk a little 616 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 1: bit about a couple of things, including our friend Jesse Kelly, 617 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: syndicated host on Premiere Networks, to talk about the Dutch farmers, 618 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: and Jesse is ready to stand aside alongside them yodeling 619 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: or do they not know? That's is that Switzerland, that's Switzerland. 620 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: They don't yodel in Holland. Do they yodel in Holland? 621 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. But also you called out Jesse's Burger's 622 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 1: clay and that will not go debate tomorrow