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Speaker 1: need you? What to expect? As a production of I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio, I'm your host Heidi Murkoff and I'm a

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Speaker 1: mom on a mission, a mission to help you know

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Speaker 1: be home for Christmas taken on a whole new meaning

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Speaker 1: no doubt a lot to miss this year, especially time

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Speaker 1: and hugs. But at what to expect. We're here to

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Speaker 1: help make your holidays as festive and fun and joyful

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Speaker 1: as possible in a kind of way. Today we're talking

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Speaker 1: about what to expect during an unexpected holiday season, how

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Speaker 1: and of course, what to give everyone on your gift list,

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Speaker 1: from babies to grandparents. And I am here with Emma,

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Speaker 1: who takes all of her holidays seriously, especially Christmas. I

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Speaker 1: really do. It's my time to shine, So this year

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Speaker 1: a little different, A little different. What are you looking

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Speaker 1: forward to this holiday season? Well, I personally am looking

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Speaker 1: forward to not having to make excuses why I don't

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Speaker 1: want to go out on New Year's Eve. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to my husband taking a few days

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Speaker 1: Your gift, it's a real gift. That's the gift that

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Speaker 1: keeps on giving. I'm really looking forward to just like

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Speaker 1: having that quality family time that maybe we wouldn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: to remember, Yes it will. What about you? Ours is

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Speaker 1: pretty much the same as usual, except I don't have

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Speaker 1: something that a pandemic can't take away at least as

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Speaker 1: long as there's an Internet and you, Emma, is meaningful

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Speaker 1: gift giving. And I know it's a little late in

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Speaker 1: in that department, the world's most gifted gift giver with

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Speaker 1: us today. Trust me, Santa would be lost without and

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Speaker 1: so would I. So am I. Yeah, let's talk a

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Speaker 1: there's nothing new this year in like that aspect of it.

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Speaker 1: For me, it's so much easier. You can do it

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Speaker 1: for me, my favorite part of Christmas is giving gifts,

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Speaker 1: And we got a lot of comfy, cozy maternity pajamas.

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Speaker 1: to come and clean, which is a great idea. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Someone also said, and I think this is genius organizer

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