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Speaker 1: Radular nipple nipples not larger than baby. Good Good morning, Sweeter,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the Nodunk's podcast on the Athletic Network.

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Speaker 1: It's Thursday, February sixth, twenty twenty five. Happy NBA Trade

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Speaker 1: deadline day to all that celebrate. I'm Jay Skeets here

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Speaker 1: in the Classic Factory and alongside me as always, casmelis.

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Speaker 2: Just when I thought the trade deadline couldn't get crazier,

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Speaker 1: Next to him. It's the Bearded one, a top sho

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Speaker 1: our Trade Deadline Special. I don't know what's gonna be

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Speaker 3: Riddle me skeets.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, is it even possible to have an emergency podcast today?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean we got a little bit of a gap.

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Speaker 4: You know, we got a ten o'clock and a two

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Speaker 1: Okay, So here's the real question, though, Does Vooch getting

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Speaker 1: think you wait him. Does lamellow Ball getting traded today?

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Speaker 3: Spicy?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think that one does.

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Speaker 2: So it wasn't ready. I wasn't prepared for that name.

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Speaker 1: I was chucking it out there. We had a Weggie

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Speaker 1: Weggie number twenty eight on the season down at the Fortress.

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Speaker 1: Trey Kirby saw it with his own eyes. He saw

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Speaker 1: Man. The Weggies are coming. It's fast and furious again.

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Speaker 1: Number twenty eight. Now we're back on pace for fifty.

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Speaker 1: So I love it. Okay, Holy trades. Last night, the

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Speaker 1: We jumped in the yard last night to do an

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Speaker 1: But the Warriors in the Jimmy Butler trade, they get

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Speaker 4: According to the Vegas Odds, they went from basically a

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Speaker 2: It is high risk, but it is high reward as well.

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Speaker 2: I think the risky part that we're not all seeing

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Speaker 1: Kaminga Podjemski, it's not hot right now. And you know,

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Speaker 1: It was fine. Ultimately it got them Jimmy Butler. I

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Speaker 1: We thought it might work better on the court. It didn't. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Ye, And look at how the Warriors have gone for

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Speaker 3: Then twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 4: They were the sixth seed, right they needed a fifty

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Speaker 4: If you look at the numbers, Jimmy Butler is playing

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Speaker 4: it feels like Jimmy's been playing to not get hurt

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Speaker 4: so he can get this payday. Yes, I think he's

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Speaker 1: Well he did and he got his money, So come on, Jimmy,

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Speaker 4: Gary Payton the second going out, just because you got

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Speaker 3: Got to have seven guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's clear Mike Dunlevy and the front office are

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Speaker 4: He's going to fit in exactly where Jimmy was in

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Speaker 2: He's a free agent of this offseason, but they didn't

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Speaker 2: It is risk. I would have loved to see those

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Speaker 3: Twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 4: very similar to DeMar de Rosen, like a little bit

433
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Speaker 4: taller Tomart Rosen. M This is also I think would

434
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Speaker 4: be pitched as a win now move. They did trade

435
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Speaker 4: a first round pick for an all star to try

436
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Speaker 4: and get better this season. I think they're in thirteenth

437
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,399
Speaker 4: place right now. It just doesn't really make sense to me.

438
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Speaker 4: I don't really know what the Raptors are doing, especially

439
00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 4: because Ingram just is so duplicative to r J. Barrett,

440
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,639
Speaker 4: to Scottie Barnes, they all play very similar styles. Like it,

441
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Speaker 4: I don't know, I just I don't know. I wouldn't

442
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,159
Speaker 4: have done this. Yeah, and if you if you wanted

443
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,359
Speaker 4: this kind of a player, why not just keep Siakam Oh?

444
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, in essence, Toronto traded Siakam plus a second

445
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,400
Speaker 1: round pick for Ingram O Chayabaji and the one first

446
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,440
Speaker 1: rounder that kept from this trade, which they used on

447
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 1: Jacoby Walter. That's sort of the how it all evens.

448
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Speaker 3: Out Ingram much younger, of course, yes.

449
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Speaker 1: Yes, but I do hear you on no not near No, No,

450
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 1: he's not. And he's always injured too. This is the part.

451
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's injured right now. He's got a lower

452
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Speaker 1: left ankle sprain, significant injury there, and he's dealt with

453
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Speaker 1: negging injuries his entire career. Yeah, so there's that part

454
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Speaker 1: of the equation. But you know, he is talented. It's

455
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Speaker 1: a it's a it's perplexing. I'm with you. It was like,

456
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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I wish this was Zach Levine instead.

457
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Speaker 1: I think he would fit what they need as a

458
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Speaker 1: shooter more now I know he's got a contract, but

459
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Speaker 1: we might be looking at that type of content with Ingram.

460
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Speaker 1: So that's again the big question mark to.

461
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Speaker 2: Me, so many questions. I think Messiah is looking at

462
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 2: this roster and still wondering what he has. Because they

463
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 2: went and got it emmanual quickly, that they went and

464
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 2: signed a monster deal to I haven't seen it, and

465
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Speaker 2: then they're gonna and I was excited quite frankly about

466
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Speaker 2: Barnes quickly and Barrett. Now you have Brandon Ingram, who's

467
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Speaker 2: also going to get a long term deal, who is

468
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Speaker 2: a very very good offensive player from ten feet and beyond.

469
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Speaker 2: He's shooting forty eight percent, it's very good number. Shooting

470
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 2: decent from three this year as well, thirty seven percent.

471
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Speaker 2: He is shooting more and more threes, even though he

472
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Speaker 2: is not that type of guy. I think they were

473
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Speaker 2: going to ask him to totally and he's gotten better

474
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Speaker 2: at it, there's no doubt. I just wish they played

475
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Speaker 2: I frankly, I wish they'd played that. I just want

476
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Speaker 2: to see that. So both for Siaka Parle, you mentioned

477
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Speaker 2: o Chaiabaji, who I think is a huge win in

478
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Speaker 2: that Utah trade where they got h Kelly Olinik along

479
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Speaker 2: with him for our first round pick that turned into

480
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Speaker 2: Isaiah Collier. That was a great move. Oh Chaibaiji has

481
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Speaker 2: been a great player, three point shooting guy. He's a

482
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Speaker 2: great three and D kind of guy on a good team.

483
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Speaker 2: As soon as they're good, we're all gonna say, oh

484
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Speaker 2: Chaibashi's awesome because he's he's a little undersized. That being said,

485
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Speaker 2: we just haven't seen a very good team in front

486
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Speaker 2: of Oh Chayabashi. You know, the pecking order just just

487
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Speaker 2: ain't working right at this point.

488
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So Kelly Olinic goes instead of Chris Bouchet, who

489
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Speaker 1: a lot of people thought might be moved maybe will

490
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Speaker 1: be moved today ahead of the deadline, but he gets uh,

491
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Speaker 1: Kelly Olnic gets paired with Bruce Brown for this Ingram move.

492
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Speaker 2: And that's money wise because Olinich was guaranteed money next

493
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Speaker 2: year and now they got off that money.

494
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Speaker 1: I guess Massiah and the Rapster is like, because we're

495
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Speaker 1: about to start Scottie Barnes's five year, two hundred and

496
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Speaker 1: twenty five million dollar contract extension that could go up

497
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Speaker 1: if he makes all NBA. He won't, so it's going

498
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Speaker 1: to be that quickly. Like you said, second year, five

499
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Speaker 1: year of his one hundred and seventy five million dollars,

500
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about next season. Whatever Randon Ingerman is, He's like,

501
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Speaker 1: this is our roster, like, we gotta just be more competitive,

502
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: and he sees b I as an answer to that.

503
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope he's right, but it has whiffs

504
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 1: of Rudy Gay.

505
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Speaker 4: He has an arms fetish. Besides he sees long arms.

506
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 4: He wants you on the team. It doesn't matter, and

507
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,719
Speaker 4: nothing else matters. Do your arms go almost to your knees.

508
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 4: Come to Toronto please. It's basically what it's going to be.

509
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 4: It seems unlikely that there's a path to the top

510
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Speaker 4: for the Raptors with this crew.

511
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Speaker 2: The scary part is when they sign Ingram to that

512
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Speaker 2: deal this offseason. That's gonna happen. His and Quickly's may

513
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 2: not be tradable. I would assume Scottie barn still is

514
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Speaker 2: because Scotti's that damn good player, and our jays is

515
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: only two years anyways. I don't want to look into

516
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: the future and say, WHOA, these guys are tradeable. I

517
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 2: would love to see them put on their shorts and

518
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 2: their jersey and play basketball. We just have it. And

519
00:23:54,720 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: so we haven't seen how good Emmanuel Quickly is. True.

520
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 2: Blame Darius Garland. Game one of this season got under

521
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: him on a rebound and he fell down, and so

522
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 2: we just haven't seen how good he is.

523
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 4: Scotty is the future for this team, right, we all

524
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 4: agree on that he's there. Cornerstone. Right now, what kind

525
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 4: of players do you want to put around him?

526
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Speaker 3: Because I don't think it's Brandon.

527
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Speaker 4: No, I don't think you would agree, right, You don't

528
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 4: want another guy who's handling the ball. You want better

529
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 4: outside shooters who are used to playing off the ball,

530
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 4: like Grady Dick is probably a better fit in the

531
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Speaker 4: two three zone than Brandon Ingram is alongside Scotty.

532
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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, I will say this, like there's a

533
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Speaker 1: lot of like, what are the raptors doing? We're gonna

534
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: be too good now. I thought we were tanking. I

535
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Speaker 1: thought we were going for flag. I wouldn't like freak out.

536
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Speaker 4: I don't think Brandon Ingram teams are usually in the

537
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Speaker 4: player the lottery.

538
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 2: Right, Oh, he's still injured, and injured exactly matches.

539
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Speaker 1: Up, so don't worry, Like if that's your concern, it's

540
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: a little weird, Like, you know they're right now currently

541
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Speaker 1: with the fifth best I guess is the way to

542
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Speaker 1: put it odds to get the number one pick, like

543
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Speaker 1: a ten point five percent chance at the number one pick.

544
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Speaker 1: Who's right ahead of them? You know the nets are

545
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: right there, so yeah, maybe maybe they jump them. But

546
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: then it's like your Philly, your Bulls, your Blazers who

547
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: are red hot, You're hot. Like, my point is the

548
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Speaker 1: Raptors are going to have a fourteen percent chance to

549
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: about a nine percent chance at hitting flag. That's not

550
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 1: gonna change much.

551
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Speaker 3: Does he play like a similar position to any of.

552
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: These Yeah, well yes, yes, that's weird.

553
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 3: Hey he's got long arms. He's six foot nine.

554
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know is interested. Hey, Okay, maybe a part.

555
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 2: Of this Ingram is too short for this team should six.

556
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 2: If only it was six.

557
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: Next nine, we'll add that inch. If maybe the Galaxy

558
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: brain thinking here for Messiah's by low, build up his

559
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: trade value, sell high on Ingram. That's possible again, especially

560
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Speaker 1: especially if it's like a really reasonable contract that they

561
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Speaker 1: sign him for in the summer here. That that to

562
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Speaker 1: me is the key. It can't be massive. It's if

563
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Speaker 1: they get him on like almost a discount. Guy wasn't

564
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Speaker 1: all star. He is a good player. I know, it

565
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: seems like we're just crapping on brain Ingram. He is good.

566
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: He has skill of this league. Maybe that's a thinking

567
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: to then you know, when you have your pick, you

568
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: have some young guys on the bench. It's around Scotty,

569
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: it's still, you know, you hope to get quickly back

570
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: and then just flip brandon Ingram down the line for

571
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Speaker 1: other pieces.

572
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Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying, because it seems like there

573
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Speaker 2: are hungry teams out there that are just looking for

574
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Speaker 2: their next guy. We've just seen all these NBA players

575
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: traded in this last few days. There will be teams

576
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 2: hungry in the offseason that don't get a free agent.

577
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: There will be There's no doubt. On the other side,

578
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 2: this could be a flashback for Toronto Raptors fans seeing

579
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: you said he plays like Demarta Rozen. They also asked

580
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,719
Speaker 2: Demarta Rozen to shoot more threes. That didn't happen. They

581
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 2: will ask Brandon Ingram to do that. But he has

582
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: been doing that this season. He's been playing off Zion

583
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Speaker 2: Williamson the point guard and shooting six and a half

584
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 2: threes per game. The numbers are good. There are fishing

585
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: at thirty seven percent, and so Scotty is that point guard.

586
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: Gains ein Willipson, but he is sort of that point

587
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 2: guard in the mid range and he's a great passer.

588
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: And that's what we're gonna see from this team if

589
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: they ever ever play basketball. That's the weird part because

590
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: Ingram and quickly still they remain injured.

591
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Speaker 1: Do you have any thoughts from the Pelicans side of

592
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: things here? I mean, they of course move off of

593
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: a guy who was there for a long time and

594
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: wasn't all star, didn't play a whole lot, unfortunately, with

595
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Speaker 1: Zion Williamson. I forget how many total games do you

596
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: not out?

597
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Speaker 4: There's not a lot zero with de Jonte Murray and Zion.

598
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 4: This season they got something for him. They got a

599
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 4: first round draft pick ass By Low for the Raptors.

600
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 4: So not a great return for the Pelicans, but there

601
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 4: was basically no market for brandon Ingram. He'd been on

602
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 4: the trade block since the summer. Nothing happened. Yeah, and

603
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Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe the Kelly Olinic Zion Williamson pairing

604
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 4: is nice. Zion's never played with a stretch five. Kelly

605
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 4: olinok is like the replacement level stretch five of the NBA.

606
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 4: So we'll see what it looks like when he comes

607
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 4: off the bench for Mesia.

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Speaker 1: Do you think already has uh is wearing a backwards

609
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Speaker 1: pelicanst that's the.

610
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Speaker 3: First thing they get.

611
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Speaker 2: Puts on that had he goes neat some seafood and

612
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: New Orleans and those restaurants crack some crabs. He will

613
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 2: have some fun that twenty twenty six Indiana draft picks.

614
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 2: That's what it is. It's not a Toronto Raptors pick.

615
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: It's a fine pick. It ain't gonna be an excellent pick.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, I mean anywhere between ten and twenty probably.

617
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Speaker 2: Yeah, how dar you disrespect the Okay, okay, twenty ish.

618
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be the twenty ish.

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Speaker 1: I think in the late teens.

620
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: But sure, yeah, okay, whatever. Anyway, it's a good it's

621
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Speaker 2: a fine get.

622
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Speaker 1: Okay, fine, all right, let's keep it moving here. We

623
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: got more trades earlier this morning. The Los Angeles Lakers

624
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: agreed to trade rookie Dalton connect Cam Reddish, a twenty

625
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: thirty one first round pick and a twenty thirty pick

626
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: swap to the Hornets for center Mark Williams. The deal

627
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: comes just four days after Lakers dealt superstar Anthony Davis

628
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: to Dallas for Luka Doncic blockbuster deal. And I think

629
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Speaker 1: that's a key part here to acquiring Williams. Uh get

630
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: Luca a rim running big man. But did they give

631
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: up a little too much for Mark Williams? So what's it?

632
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: What's your takeaways from this one?

633
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: Love a guy named Mark.

634
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 4: They call me Luca and I'm Mark. He's got good size,

635
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 4: he's a good player, He's still got potential. He's cheap

636
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 4: right now. He's gonna look nice next to Luka Doncic

637
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 4: and Lebron James catching lobs, There's no doubt about that.

638
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 4: I think there are definitely injury concerns with Mark Williams.

639
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 3: He's been hurt every year of his career.

640
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 4: He basically just set out an entire year before coming back.

641
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 4: I think there are gonna be problems come playoff time eventually,

642
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 4: like things downsize in the playoffs, and I'm not completely

643
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 4: certain that Mark Williams is gonna be able to stay

644
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Speaker 4: on the court when that becomes the case. He also

645
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 4: hasn't played an important game yet in the NBA, so

646
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 4: it's hard to tell what he's gonna do. That to

647
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 4: me is why I'm not super enthused about this deal.

648
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 4: Because of the opportunity cost. LA's thirty one draft pick

649
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 4: is definitely less valuable now than it was before the

650
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 4: Luka donca trade. They'll still be trying to compete at

651
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 4: that point, but this is basically the last asset they

652
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 4: had to try and improve their team until like the

653
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 4: twenty twenty thirty three draft. That's a long time from now,

654
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 4: and they're basically throwing in and saying this is Luca

655
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 4: and Mark Williams team. That seems odd to me. They

656
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 4: could have probably gotten a value center. Maybe they could

657
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 4: have gotten a guy like Capella who's not nearly as exciting,

658
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 4: but he comes off the books sooner and then maybe

659
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 4: you're looking at a different team. So I don't know.

660
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 4: I want to see it. Show me that you can

661
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 4: actually stay on the court and show me that you

662
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 4: can matter in games that matter.

663
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely. It's an overpay, there's no doubt. They who went

664
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: all in for him to play with Luca, and he's

665
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: got a lot of raw talents, there's no doubt. But

666
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: he also gets burned a lot on the defensive end.

667
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: His footwork just ain't there and he's just in the

668
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: wrong spot over and over and over again. The numbers

669
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: are good. He plays on a Charlotte Hornets team where

670
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: the numbers can be had, but he is. He's a

671
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: good rim protector. It's not like a classic rim protector.

672
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: It's not a classic Luca guy with Derek Lively. It's different,

673
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: but the numbers, I mean, they're sexy. And over the

674
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: past ten games he's twenty and twelve and a half

675
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: in a block and a half. Yeah, but as soon

676
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: as you put him in a pick and roll situation

677
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: on the defensive end, he's gonna get burned. And yeah,

678
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: he hasn't played first season, missed half the games, second season,

679
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 2: missed three cores of his games. Third season, which is

680
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: this season, he's already missed half game so far. So

681
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: he hasn't played it all that much. And that is

682
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 2: not a great rim protector in all honesty. He's allowing

683
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: sixty eight point two percent of shots when they're near

684
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: the rim and he's at the brutal. That's brutal. It's

685
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: gotten worse. Yeah, it's gone. Sometimes I don't bile into

686
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: the defensive rim percentage, but it's gone. It's gotten worse

687
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: as his career has gone on. So, yeah, not good.

688
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: He's gonna get He's right, it's good money.

689
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: But well that's you run up Capella. And I think

690
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: that's an interesting thing. If they make a trade for

691
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: someone like Capella, that means salary's got to go back, right,

692
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: And so I mean maybe that's a ruie or something

693
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: like that. Mark being on this very deal.

694
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: It's weird to go like we're going to Mark.

695
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know you could get them obviously for

696
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: your rookie who, by the way, Dalton Connect is older

697
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: than Mark Williams, as Trey Kirby tweeted out, is older

698
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: than LaMelo Ball. That's crazy, that'll blow your mind.

699
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: In his fifth season, Dalton Connect older than Ball.

700
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, exactly. But I think you said you

701
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: like you hit the nail on the head. It's like

702
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: they they as soon as they made the Luca deal,

703
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: they're like, damn, we don't have a center. We have

704
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: Jackson Hayes. We need to fix that. And teams knew

705
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: that so that you could ask for probably more than

706
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: they would like to have given up. They gave up

707
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: some decent draft capital here. Dalton Connect. Obviously, you know

708
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: a scorer at the very least early in his career

709
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: for a guy who yes vertical lob threat. I think

710
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: he ranks in the top ten in lobbs converted into

711
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: baskets on a per possession basis. Mark Williams does that

712
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: should work with Luca and Lebron. You know, put him

713
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: in the pick and roll, have them dive to the

714
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: net like your livelys like some other guys in this league.

715
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: And Luca cooks with that. It's just like a thing

716
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: that it's nice for him to have in his toolkit

717
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: here because now you gotta respect that because he can

718
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: make that pass. But defensively, this guy get ready to

719
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: be pointed at by Luca and Lebron a lot. Yeah,

720
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,239
Speaker 1: you're in the wrong spot. What are you doing in

721
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: this pick and roll coverage? Go here? Come on, where's

722
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: the help. There's gonna be a lot of that. And

723
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: he's look, this is a good opportunity for him, Like

724
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna suddenly go from nobody really knowing who he

725
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: was playing for Charlotte and not even playing for Charlotte

726
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: because's injured all the time, to being in La la

727
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: land where they're like, if he does the little things,

728
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: if he rebounds and tey some defense and obviously can

729
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: finish those lobs, they're gonna fall in love with him

730
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: if they continue to win here. So hell of an opportunity.

731
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, the other targets like Capella you kept throwing

732
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: around Nick Claxton as a possibility.

733
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then you see the cost. Yeah, like Claxton's,

734
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 4: a better player would be a better fit. I do

735
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 4: believe alongside Luca and Lebron, the price just must have

736
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 4: been exorbita bring him in.

737
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Zilla wrote, winning the Luca deal by such a

738
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: massive margin makes the Mark Williams deal possible. I think

739
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: there's some truth to that. You don't take a swing

740
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: on Mark without getting a player like Luca first, And

741
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: that's the thinking here, Marge, Mark, tell him Mark.

742
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: I really like Luca.

743
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: And Mark really we got to run with that. Charlotte's

744
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: side of things.

745
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: They got an old guy. Yeah, I want to see

746
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: Dalton connect, operate, just have an NBA career. He's just

747
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: he's gonna get lots of reps as a lead guy here.

748
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: Especially with no Brandon Miller for the rest of the Yeah.

749
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: Yes, they're they're decimated and Charlotte Washington rules them. Uh

750
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: they can. Washington just they beat this team every single

751
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: time they play them. Yeah, Yeah, it is weird.

752
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: Could the Wizards pass the Hornets?

753
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: I think it's a good possible.

754
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: We got ourselves out of.

755
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: Duster nuts. Shout out to Casey Muskraves.

756
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 4: I'm alright with a slow build, because this is going

757
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 4: to be a slow build for the Charlotte Hornets. They

758
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 4: got extra first round picks coming in twenty twenty seven

759
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 4: from Dallas, another one from Miami that same draft, they

760
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 4: got this Lakers pick. Yeah, but that's twenty thirty one.

761
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 4: These are a long time away and they're not close

762
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 4: to winning right now, which is why the Lamello ball

763
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 4: talk is a.

764
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: Little bit interesting.

765
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 4: Unlikely that you would give up on a player like that.

766
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 4: I mean, that'd be like a trading Luka Doncic for

767
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 4: like one first round pick. That would be crazy to

768
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 4: do something like that. But you know, Charlotte is doing

769
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 4: smart stuff here. It's like Mark Williams is a helpful player.

770
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: He's not helping us win right now. Maybe further down

771
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 4: the line we'll actually be able to pull some moves

772
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 4: and get better. And for the rest of the season

773
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 4: they're going to be way worse. So they have a

774
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 4: chance to have the best odds, but I think they're

775
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 4: gonna be bottom four regardless, so they've got the same

776
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 4: odds as anybody else.

777
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: When Mark Williams has played in twenty minutes or more

778
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: in a game this season, he has averaged nineteen and

779
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: twelve on like fifty nine percent shooting. So that's good offensively.

780
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: It's the defense that's a little concerning. Despite being a

781
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: massive dude, this guy's a legit seven footer.

782
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: I are standing reached than Wenby. They said, he yeah, yeah, he's.

783
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 2: Nine nine nine large Mark for sure.

784
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: But I think the deal was like this offer from

785
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: the Lakers was just like sort of too good to

786
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: pass up for the Hornets for an injury prone player

787
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: at that who is due for an extension this summer too.

788
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: So I think they did the right thing here. You said,

789
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: all the draft picks are accumulating, Yeah, what happens with LaMelo?

790
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: Who knows. I'll tell you fantasy basketball players, if he's available,

791
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: go get Diabate, Go pick him up. Baby. He's like

792
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: their holy center, and he's a rehounting machine. You're gonna

793
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: win rebounds every week if you have this guy on

794
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:48,959
Speaker 1: your team.

795
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: So does he still have more offensive rebounds than points?

796
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: This season?

797
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: Oh wow? I'm not sure on that. And again, like

798
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to gloss over Mark Williams, like the

799
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: injury you know, on that he's had in his career,

800
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: that's like, that's worrisome. For a guy his size early

801
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: in his career. We've seen it with the other Williams,

802
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: Colin Robert, you know, Mitchell Robinson, like these similar these

803
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: guys that these big dudes that pick up these injuries,

804
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: injuries early in their career, it's tough for them to

805
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: shake that, I find so I guess that's a concern. Yeah,

806
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: rolling the.

807
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 4: Dice, and it's footing back for him as well. Right,

808
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 4: Like there's big guy injuries.

809
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's keep going. Speaking of big guys,

810
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: the Kings acquired Yonis Valancunis from the Wizards in exchange

811
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: for CD Sissoko, a twenty twenty eight second round pick,

812
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: in a twenty twenty nine second round pick. I got

813
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: this board right, Hell yeah, though Sisoco has been has

814
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: he been waived? Alright, Yes, he's been dropped. Okay, so

815
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: he will not be playing for the Washington Wizards. But

816
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: yonis teaming up with Sabonis the Lithuanian national team. There

817
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: half half old Bulls, half Lithuanian in Sacramento. Let's start

818
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: with you tasks on getting Valacunis here to the Sacramento.

819
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: Well quickly from the other side, just like Charlotte Washington

820
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: is making a nice move. They go get Jonas Valanciunas

821
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: in the off season to show their new Frenchman Alex

822
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 2: Sar how to play center, and then they trade them

823
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 2: immediately for two second round picks and two second round

824
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: picks here in the near future when they could be

825
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: utilized in twenty five and twenty six, I know, getting

826
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: into the second.

827
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 1: Twenty nine what Yeah, the future.

828
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: I don't believe that.

829
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 3: I do not believe that's true. Somebody in the stream

830
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: team let us know, let us know.

831
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,959
Speaker 2: About those second round Yeah, I know, I'm talking about

832
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: second round picks.

833
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, felt Man, they in uh in podcast analyst terms,

834
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 4: that's a nice piece of business. Sign a guy with

835
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 4: a tiny market, get picks back, and that was the

836
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 4: whole plan.

837
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 3: They did good.

838
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially in these this current draft, like they're

839
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: their near future. So you can say, hey, let's let's

840
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: bundle these up together. What's the business term for that

841
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: one's package? These Your package is gonna be a liver

842
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: as you you love He did once say that. So

843
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: they're super young, good for them, super duper Yeah, we

844
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: don't know if if black Cool Bellley first triple double

845
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: looking good Alex Sar, Bub Carrington, Keishaan George. If they're

846
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: ever gonna be high end players, we just don't know.

847
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: Bows look good, you know. I mentioned those guys plus

848
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 2: a j that they just got from the Bucks. They're

849
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: super duper young, so it's at least they're going in

850
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: a direction.

851
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: They have three nineteen year olds. That's amazing.

852
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: That is incredible Warriors.

853
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris Middleton, they're just teaching them how to be grown.

854
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: I will say NBA dot com has it as twenty

855
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: twenty eight and twenty nine, so hey, hey, maybe cute

856
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: Steve made a mistake over at NBA dot Com.

857
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe that's a guy that.

858
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 4: Studio, so sorry he'd add to derail us a little

859
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 4: bit here. But is a good team for Valentine's Day?

860
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 4: I'll say that Sacramento Kings because it's all about getting

861
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 4: back together. Zach and Lamar back together, Damar and JV

862
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 4: back together, Sabonis and Valentiunis back together.

863
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: It's true.

864
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 4: If you've been thinking about calling that special somebody that

865
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 4: you think you blew it with, get on the phone.

866
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 3: Like future girl, I'm sorry, call me back. Let's watch

867
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 3: a Kings game. Together. If they can make it work

868
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 3: week and make it work.

869
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 4: I think he's an upgrade over Alex lenn and it

870
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 4: allows them to play a center almost all the time.

871
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 4: It'll be Sabonis as the starter taking up most of

872
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 4: the minutes.

873
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 3: Valentunis will come in be their.

874
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 4: Back up big and do basically the exact same stuff

875
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 4: as Sibonis, maybe more so or less so as a

876
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 4: creator and a facilitator. But whatever, he's gonna rebound, he's

877
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 4: gonna score baskets.

878
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 3: Inside.

879
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 4: He'll probably get in a couple of fights, which you

880
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 4: love to see. And it means Trey Lyles can play

881
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 4: the four, which needs a four, not a small ball fight.

882
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: Really, I think these are all great points. I mean,

883
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: like I made fun of Vucci and his lack of

884
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: defense at the rim, sort of like Mark Williams at

885
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,959
Speaker 1: least giving up a high percentage within five feet. That's

886
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: the same thing for Sabonis. That's that's not a strung suit.

887
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: He does a lot of other things. But having JV

888
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: there beside him, big old guy there, you know, I

889
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: at least should shore that up a little bit.

890
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, the problem is getting both those guys in space. Yeah,

891
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: they're not and they don't have the fleetist feet.

892
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: Someone once compared Valentunis in the pick and roll on

893
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: defense to like a like an eighteen wheeler on ice,

894
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: and I was like, it's always stuck with me. It's

895
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: like wow, yeah, like you know, it's like it spins

896
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: a little bit, take a while to get going. Yeah,

897
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: once against going, you're fining, but like you got to

898
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: be a.

899
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 2: Little quick here in Atlanta, slipping here.

900
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: Right, all right. So we'll move on from that, and

901
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: then really the final one, and we have touched on this,

902
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: but the big one was Chris Middleton Kyle Kuzma swapping

903
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: Milwaukee and Washington and this so Kuzma going to the Bucks,

904
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: Patrick Baldwin junior as well second round draft compensation, and

905
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: then Chris Middleton going to the Wizards for now A J. Johnson,

906
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 1: a very young Bucks prospect obviously a first round pick

907
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: and then a pick swamp in the future. Any other

908
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: thoughts on cous to the Bucks or Middleton the whiz.

909
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 4: The thing we didn't really react to at all because

910
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 4: we were just looking at these players and basically thinking

911
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 4: Chris Middleton versus Kyle Kuzma is the financial implications? YEA

912
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 4: for the Milwaukee Bucks, and this is basically a money

913
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 4: move with a Kyle Kuzma camouflage on it, because now

914
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 4: they're underneath the separate second ac brin, which means that

915
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 4: they can aggregate players in trades, So maybe they're still

916
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 4: going to be active here in the few hours we

917
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 4: have left before the deadline. It also means that I

918
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 4: guess they're twenty thirty two draft pick is still allowed

919
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 4: to be traded because they've got that weird freezing clause

920
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 4: in the new CBA. It also saves the Bucks thirty

921
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 4: million dollars, so I would say most likely a lateral

922
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 4: move Chris Middleton to Kyle Kuzma. Maybe it works out,

923
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 4: we shall see, but it does feel like this gives

924
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 4: the Bucks a chance in the summer to maybe change

925
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 4: things up, or maybe at the trade deadline, maybe we

926
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 4: could see a Portis and Connaton thrown together to get

927
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 4: a different kind of player or some help on the wing.

928
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 4: I don't know what it's going to be, necessarily, but

929
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 4: it feels like this maybe gives the Bucks a chance

930
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 4: a chance to shake things up, or maybe this is

931
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 4: them being cheap and I don't like to think that way.

932
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 3: I like to think more.

933
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 4: So, hey, you got some flexibility to make some moves,

934
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 4: so now go and make some moves.

935
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: And they man, Kyle Kuzma, you made the comparison to PJ.

936
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 2: Washington and where he went last year at to Dallas

937
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: and things all worked out. We forget that Kyle Kuzma

938
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 2: was offered to go to Dallas before the and he said, nah,

939
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 2: I want to stay in Washington and be a number

940
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: one option. And here he is and it would be very,

941
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: very similar. Kuzma could be playing the four while Giannis

942
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: goes and plays the five quite often, and that would

943
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: be far better for this team if he is capable.

944
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: If he is capable of being that guy, there is

945
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: the problem it will Kyle Kuzma be that good? And

946
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: I was a little surprised by Chris Middleton being moved on,

947
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 2: especially at this time. I know he hasn't been great.

948
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: He hasn't played the first quarter of the season that

949
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: he comes in and he doesn't look like himself. They

950
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 2: try moving him off the bench, but he was playing

951
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: in his best little run here. But he obviously has

952
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 2: looked older and Kuzma is far younger, and maybe he

953
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: just needs to be revitalized in a new situation. I

954
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: am confused though, by that whole aggregation thing, because they

955
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: aggregated in this trade. They moved Kyle Kuzma and or

956
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: excuse me, they moved Chris Middleton and A J. Johnson

957
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: to the Wizards, and the whole thing was, Okay, they

958
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 2: got below the second apron. Now now they can aggregate

959
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: combined salary in a trade. It can't doesn't have to

960
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: just be one for one. So I saw that, and

961
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: I said, Okay, that's good.

962
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: He just did that.

963
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 2: You just made a first Chris and a first round pick.

964
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 5: A J.

965
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: Johnson is a first round pick. So it's not like

966
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 2: he's a two way. There's like I was just imagining rules.

967
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 2: Oh he's a two way. Possibly, No, he's not. Anyway,

968
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: I guess they can all the time now, not only now,

969
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: but as you said, in the off season, because they

970
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: may move on from their Yannis Lillard brook trio.

971
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: I guess yeah. Well, the Wizards keep making moves. We've

972
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: just learned that the Wizards are getting Reggie Jackson. The

973
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: Wizards are getting Reggie Jackson along with the least favorable

974
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six first round pick from Houston the Clippers

975
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: are ok see that's coming by way of the Philadelphia

976
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: seventy six Ers.

977
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 3: Said first round pick.

978
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, the Wizard's the least favorable.

979
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: So they get in the OKAC pick.

980
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: Philly gets Jared Butler along with four second round picks.

981
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: So it's a bunch of second round draft capital coming

982
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia with Jared Butler, Reggie Jackson going to Washington

983
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: with that least favorable twenty twenty six pick from those

984
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: three teams, Houston, Clips and the thunder Jay Butler back

985
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: to the Sixers on that's exactly right, exciting, that's right.

986
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess the Sixers didn't want a first round

987
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: pick because they didn't want to pay someone guaranteed money.

988
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 2: Second round picks a little bit different. You know, you

989
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: can give those away. Frankly, you don't need roster spots.

990
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 2: I guess they're trying to save money as they did

991
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: yesterday for Bola Coolibali. This seems to be just a financial.

992
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: For cool of Bally.

993
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 2: Now COOLi Bali not cool A Bali. No, because they

994
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: wanted to. They made their trades. They traded Darshan Yabu sale.

995
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,959
Speaker 2: Excuse me, I confused, my Kola Bali and my Yabu sale.

996
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: How dare I?

997
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, minor trades from yesterday. I'm just gonna throw them

998
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: all at you. Nicks traded Jericho Sims to the Box

999
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: for Delawn Wright, Thunder got Daniel Tice from the Pelicans,

1000
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: Piston's got kJ Martin and two picks from the seventy

1001
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: six Ers, and the Rockets got Jaden Springer and a

1002
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: pick from the Celtics. A lot of these moves were

1003
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: the Bobby Mark Special teams, getting under luxury taxes, cooking

1004
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: the books, making things work. I mean, I saw a

1005
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: tweet that the seventy six Ers in trading Kila Martin

1006
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: and kJ Martin saved like forty million dollars when you

1007
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: look at payroll tax money gain from tax distribution, like,

1008
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: it's sort of crazy, like and the Sixers that's their thing, right,

1009
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: ducking that tax for the third straight trade deadline as

1010
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: more does.

1011
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 4: That's our guy Trill bro Dude at the You Know

1012
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 4: Ball podcast talking about this. This wasn't the plan for

1013
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 4: kJ Martin when they signed him, Like he was supposed

1014
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 4: to be a big trade contract that they could hopefully

1015
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 4: add to their team at the deadline. Obviously, the season

1016
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 4: hasn't gone the way the Sixers imagined, so it turns

1017
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 4: into a salary dump.

1018
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 3: It's just a nice piece of business.

1019
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1020
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1021
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: And then honestly, similar with the Celtics getting rid of

1022
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: Jaden Springer, each dollar over the luxury tax cost the

1023
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: Celtics about four dollars in tax payments. So someone like

1024
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: Jaden Springer, whose salary is just over four million, that

1025
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: guy's actually like a sixteen million dollar contract. So you

1026
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: move off of him, and you help, obviously get under

1027
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: electric tux or at least help.

1028
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I loved kJ Martin when I watched him sometimes.

1029
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 2: Obviously he's extremely athletic, but just as a now a

1030
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 2: baseline cutter, off ball cutter, he he does some good things,

1031
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: and that was a little surprising to me. But yes,

1032
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: it's all about money. Especially the Pelicans are always under

1033
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: the tax. They don't pay tax in New Orleans. So

1034
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: moving off from Daniel Tice was that entirely to get

1035
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 2: him to okay, So he's.

1036
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: Under get him as just like emergency in case baby

1037
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: one of their bigs go down and they need someone

1038
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: to stop up some minutes. But don't worry. Chet Holmgren's

1039
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: coming back.

1040
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 3: Check back.

1041
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like their big addition.

1042
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's off the injury list, so he should be

1043
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 2: coming back. But Daniel Tye, he won a gold medal

1044
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three. Now he could win an NBA

1045
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: championship a mere two years later.

1046
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 3: Maybe I mean junior gold medal.

1047
00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 2: Junior gold medals cup. Yeah, they give medals. Okay, they

1048
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: didn't beat the US A.

1049
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's for the rest of the world.

1050
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 2: I do want to maybe I'm over speculating on Jericho

1051
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 2: Sims being dealt to the Milwaukee Bucks. We're not just

1052
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 2: keep a center around now. They have Cat.

1053
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: Obviously they're going to keep Mitchell maybe right now Mitchell Robinson.

1054
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but he's injured. I just mean for depth,

1055
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: Cat does get into all trouble in the posts she.

1056
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: Played well, yeah he's the guy, smaller, but he's the guy.

1057
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: But actually Ariel hook Party, that guy is played really

1058
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 2: really well. So maybe that's that's the.

1059
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: I thought for a second, and I was really confused. Okay,

1060
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: what did he say.

1061
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 3: I know he's a Knicks fan, no plan to see him.

1062
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 2: Go, not to a girl the party.

1063
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 4: That guy's great an Ariel party more recently than Hawk

1064
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 4: to a girl.

1065
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 3: She's doing the calculation.

1066
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: We're talking about money. Oh yeah, she pulled out this

1067
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: new cryptocurrency. Bye bye. She still appeared.

1068
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 1: Guess is done.

1069
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, damn, but she pulled out a cryptocurrency.

1070
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken. Yeah, she got paid. Damn, she's

1071
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: gone down, goes the cryptocurrency basically evaporates.

1072
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: Jail for that. Talk to uh with Haley Welch. That's

1073
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: the name of her podcast. It's a great name, man,

1074
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: that's pretty good.

1075
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 3: That's a that's a that's a no. Dung'st classic come

1076
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 3: up with the name first. And then.

1077
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 4: There are two people I trust implicitly while we're talking

1078
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 4: about all this stuff.

1079
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 3: Number One, doctor Brian Suitor or m D.

1080
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 4: He says about an injury. I'm like, oh yeah, this

1081
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 4: guy's cooking. Number Two, it's Bobby Marks. That guy's literally cooking.

1082
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 4: He's the only one that understands these aprons. This guy

1083
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 4: must be quite the chef running the grill back home.

1084
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: You know how we've had like versus, you know, battles

1085
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: between artists, right like, get them on stage. Let's do

1086
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: it with Bobby Marks and John Holland Jolly, that's what

1087
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying Bobby Mark incredible, but Hollinger is a sick

1088
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: Oh man, this guy. We get all the stuff in

1089
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: the slack before you people see it on the blog.

1090
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: And it's amazing the speed this guy can be. Like

1091
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: a minor stupid deal happened. He's got all the numbers crunched,

1092
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 1: and then he's talking about like the two or three

1093
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: next moves to watch for, and more times than writings,

1094
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: he's bang on yea, So Mars versus Hollinger versus let's go,

1095
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: let's go. He's sick hell throwing. Nate Duncan in there too.

1096
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 3: Let's get wild elimination Chamber.

1097
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: They come out of their pods for every trade.

1098
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's Danny Lores.

1099
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 2: We should get John Holland on to explain this aggregation thing.

1100
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense. That's been Walkee Bucks are already.

1101
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,959
Speaker 2: They just aggregated Chris and aj And speaking of first names,

1102
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 2: Ariel Hawk Party. He's such such a good last name,

1103
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: he's got such a good first name, so he can't

1104
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 2: be get the first name guy. Yeah, yeah, Ariel, it's great.

1105
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: Cluck Party also great, uh.

1106
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: Wild trade season? Yeah, if you include the preseason Nix

1107
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: Wolves Blockbuster. The players dealt this season have combined for

1108
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 1: thirty eight All Star appearances in twenty all NBA honors.

1109
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: So for we're looking at just the totality of the

1110
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: trade season, and we're not done. We do have a

1111
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: few hours left here before the three pm deadline. Uh,

1112
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: before we move on to just some quick game talk.

1113
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: Do you think anyone else of note will get moved

1114
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: here in the final four hours?

1115
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: We got four hours. Yeah, yeah, that sounds like a

1116
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: long time. But a lot of the big dom they

1117
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: have fallen, We have been blessed with.

1118
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: And they have fallen at a beautiful pace for the

1119
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: contact creator. Hey, here's one big one on this day.

1120
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: Here's another one on the next day. Oh, Jimmy Butler

1121
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant actually trade rumors. No, no, no, hold on,

1122
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: it's Jimmy Butler to the war like. It's perfect.

1123
00:52:58,840 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 3: It has been perfect.

1124
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 4: Last time I left a basketball game, it was me

1125
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 4: playing pickup. Was for D'Angelo Russell Mike Conley emergency trade.

1126
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 4: We once did an emergency podcast for a Cambrattish trade. Yeah,

1127
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 4: this has been straight up bangers. So I don't know,

1128
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 4: is anything else gonna happen. My sources are telling me

1129
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 4: the Warriors are still interested in Nicolovich yep, and that

1130
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 4: the Chicago Balls and the Orlando Magic have talked to

1131
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 4: Kobe White.

1132
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 3: We shall oh, yeah.

1133
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: You feel like the Magic might get a obviously a

1134
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: shooter in there. They need that. That's okay, okay, I

1135
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: like it. I like it. I was just about to

1136
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: say something. Oh, last year's trade deadline show, our ten

1137
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: AM show, I believe the key name maybe even on

1138
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: the thumbnail. Not proud to say this Xavier Tilmand.

1139
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 2: Because it was Xavier Tillman.

1140
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: Yea, yes, yeah, far we've come. Yeah, it is amazing.

1141
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 1: Hey he had a big three in the finals.

1142
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.

1143
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 1: And we said that, go check the tape. This guy,

1144
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: did you hit you at three in the I bet

1145
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 1: you would have said that he could. He definitely could,

1146
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: maybe not three, but we said, you'll watch. He'll win

1147
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: you a corner in a playoff game. Oh.

1148
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. He's a corner free man.

1149
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: But you bring up a good point because I heard

1150
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: Bobby Marks we were just talking about. Yeah, was leading

1151
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 2: the Chooser Fighter. He was leading the New Jersey Nets

1152
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 2: front office. In twenty eleven, which him and Brian Winhurst

1153
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: were saying. The last time that an All Star was

1154
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: traded at the trade deadline was Darren Williams at twenty

1155
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 2: eleven unexpectedly.

1156
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: Oh, like a shocking one.

1157
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you.

1158
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: Must have been trades All Stars.

1159
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 4: Well, there definitely have been trades. It must be the

1160
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 4: deadline must be the part because like Kyrie got traded.

1161
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 3: During Yeah, yeah, multiple times.

1162
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that I say, Okay, the current headline, the

1163
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: current All Star while also being a surprise, was that

1164
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 2: long ago, And.

1165
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one was a shocker.

1166
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a big time. It was came or

1167
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 2: he was having some infight with Jerry Sloan in Utah

1168
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: and he was ready to move on. But he's a

1169
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 2: great player.

1170
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: And the Nets had missed out on Carmelo if I

1171
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 1: remember correctly, like those sweepstakes.

1172
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 2: And that was like a pivot to that is yeah exactly.

1173
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: All right, Well, well we'll be back here at two

1174
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 1: pm Eastern to do any of the other trades that

1175
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: we get over the next couple hours. But let's let's

1176
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: ask you the guys this. I mean, there was basketball

1177
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: last night. You ran a game for a little bit

1178
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: down at the Fortress to see Spurs, Hawks blowout, blowout,

1179
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: Spurs win.

1180
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 2: Right.

1181
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 5: Uh?

1182
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: No, man, Yeah, you shouldn't have left. I leave a

1183
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: basketball game.

1184
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 3: There's more Wemby games.

1185
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 4: There's probably more Jimmy Butler trades if we're being honest,

1186
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 4: but there's only one for this year.

1187
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: Right Wenby games? That's right?

1188
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 2: Uh?

1189
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: Do you have takeaways from that game? And I'll open

1190
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: it up to any of the games. Last night, some

1191
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: sort of crazy things did happen.

1192
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 3: You can see the vision with d'aron Fox.

1193
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 4: It looked like he fit okay in the starting lineup

1194
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 4: alongside Victor Wembin Yamaa. But I think the major opportunity

1195
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 4: for him is going to be when Wemby goes to

1196
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 4: the bench. The offense has really declined when Victor sits

1197
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 4: for the San Antonio Spurs. But I think I counted

1198
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 4: it up right. It looked like thirteen points in five

1199
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 4: assists for Daron Fox when Wemby was on the bench,

1200
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 4: and he really gets to run the show out there.

1201
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 4: He creates space for shooters. He's scoring in the mid range.

1202
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 4: He's obviously fast. That looks like he's gonna give an

1203
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 4: effort defensively. I did see that like he smacked his

1204
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,959
Speaker 4: hand on something. Had a great first half, even he said,

1205
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 4: not a great second half out there. I don't know

1206
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 4: if his hand was just bothering him, but whatever, it

1207
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 4: looks good. It looks good with Daron Fox there.

1208
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this game got very close. As we were

1209
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: joking totally, but Fox twenty four points thirteen assists in

1210
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 1: his debut with the Spurs would have had a fourteenth

1211
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: if we Ben Yama finished that pick and roll that

1212
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: ended up winning the Spurs of the game in the

1213
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: closing seconds. Wemby instead hit one of two free throws,

1214
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,919
Speaker 1: so got the job done. They escape with the wind.

1215
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 1: Big comeback from the Hawks. But I thought he looked

1216
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: pretty good. It fit right in and you can see,

1217
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 1: like I'm just keep looking at Daron Fox going, that's

1218
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: a smart man right there. That guy got first in

1219
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: line to go play with web Minyama. He was like

1220
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: one of those people like camps out like a store

1221
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: going on a big blockbuster. They're out there at like

1222
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: four o'clock in the morning with their camping chair and

1223
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: he's going to be first one in. That's smart, I think,

1224
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: because there's gonna be somebody else eventually coming and he'll

1225
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: be maybe the third guy or second or third guy.

1226
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: But I thought he looked good.

1227
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, unlike the Atlanta Hawks, who operate late. They don't

1228
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: get out, they don't get it early. They love to

1229
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: come back and lose unfortunately. But yes, Darren Fox look good.

1230
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: You could just see the smile on that guy's face.

1231
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 2: He's ready to move on from the Sacramento situation. And

1232
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: I'm ready to annoint Stefan Castle the dunk contest winner

1233
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: last night. So he's good at it. He just's got

1234
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: that flash going. He had that two handed dunk just

1235
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: come out of nowhere, and then he had a windmilt

1236
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: bust out a wind mil because nobody can fly. Nobody's

1237
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 2: windmilling anymore.

1238
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: My dunk sources say two again. I know we have

1239
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: low expectations. But the good thing you like to hear

1240
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: these four guys, the four kids in it like they're

1241
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: really eager to go in it, like they really wanted

1242
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: to go in It's. That's a good start at least

1243
00:57:58,800 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: that they want to get in there.

1244
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 2: It on a show's Yeah, I'm sure that's why they

1245
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 2: were selected. Yeah, boozellis, you could see why Andre Jackson

1246
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,479
Speaker 2: would want to do it. And obviously maclarmoun. Mac wants

1247
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: to three repete.

1248
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 4: I've seen good dunks from all three of the NBA guys,

1249
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 4: like in the timeframe since they've been announced for the

1250
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 4: dunk contest. I know Bozella said, you hear this every

1251
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 4: dunk contest. I got two dunks. Nobody's ever seen it.

1252
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: I love it.

1253
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 3: I love it. Do it as your first two dunks?

1254
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: Then yes, don't wait, we don't want to.

1255
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 4: Don't keep it in your pocket. Actually we want to

1256
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 4: see him immediately. But yeah, those Castle ones were huge.

1257
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 4: This guy's an awesome specifically in game dunker. He had

1258
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 4: the one in Paris as well that was really similar

1259
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 4: to the two hander in Traffic.

1260
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 3: Great stuff.

1261
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 4: Zactly Bean also made his debut for the Sacramento Kings

1262
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 4: last night. They're gonna ask some things to figure out.

1263
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a pecking order, hierarchy thing. By the

1264
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 4: time I turned this one, it was already a blow up.

1265
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 4: So I looked at the box score today. Levine took

1266
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 4: thirteen shots, DeRozan and Monk both had eleven, and Sabonus

1267
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 4: had ten. That to me screams, we're trying to fit

1268
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 4: everybody right. Now figure out what's going on. As time

1269
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 4: goes on, they will probably figure out how to play together.

1270
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,959
Speaker 4: I'm sure that's the goal. But nineteen turnovers as well,

1271
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 4: probably just disorganized.

1272
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I will say, just like to slip this

1273
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: in about the Atlanta Hawks, Chris Mannix tweeted this morning,

1274
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: a name to watch today Atlanta's DeAndrea Hunter. Hawks have

1275
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: been fielding calls on Hunter, with the Calves emerging as

1276
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: a front runner for the six' eight swing. Man so

1277
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: we'll Keep Bryan hunter if they move off of, him

1278
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: which was obviously a great, season was coming off the

1279
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: bench there until being slotted back into the starting lineup

1280
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: because of. Injuries so maybe maybe he gets.

1281
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 2: Moved, yeah The calves have one teeny tiny hole and

1282
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 2: it is at that small forward, position and you could

1283
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 2: see Why DeAndre hunter would fit in slot in quite. Well,

1284
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 2: yeah he'd played. Great, yeah The Atlanta hawks maybe maybe

1285
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 2: moving on from some of their vets in That in

1286
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 2: that same, light The philadelphia seventy six, Ers i'm talking

1287
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 2: about that same zone of currently The Eastern conference picture

1288
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: where these teams are just underperforming a little. Bit philly

1289
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 2: played horribly yesterday at home To miami who's making a huge.

1290
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 2: Trade they were just bad everywhere on the. Floor Tyler

1291
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: hero was just getting to the rim at the beginning

1292
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 2: and no. Problems AND i Know Tyrris maxey was. Trying

1293
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: he was due for an okay game and he had

1294
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 2: won finally eleven of twenty. Eight it was just disappointing

1295
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 2: to See Paul george come. Back he got your joelmb

1296
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 2: playing the front half of a back to. Back he

1297
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 2: ain't playing the second. Half, well here Comes paul to

1298
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: say the day and that did not work. Whatsoever Paul

1299
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 2: george hurt his pinky and that's why he was. Out

1300
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 2: and he said on his podcast that dribbling was actually

1301
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 2: a lot harder than, shooting and he was trying to

1302
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 2: dribble and this, one but it was not. Working he was,

1303
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: driving but he had six points until well into the

1304
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 2: fourth and then he ended with. Nine and that just

1305
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 2: got me thinking yesterday because The warriors were reportedly going

1306
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 2: after Every All star this one and that, one and

1307
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,959
Speaker 2: this one and that. One but were they going After

1308
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 2: Paul george?

1309
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: AGAIN i wondered that maybe not the way he's playing.

1310
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 2: It, YEAH i, know that was my big. Question they

1311
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 2: were going after absolutely everyone every all star out, there

1312
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 2: BUT i don't know if they're going After Paul george

1313
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 2: the way he's. Looked.

1314
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: Unfortunately crazy game between The calves and The. Pistons just

1315
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: to slip this in, Here garland hit a buzzer beater

1316
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: from the. Logo, yeah he was on that big Old piston's.

1317
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: Logo calves win by. Three No Donovan, mitchell so he stepped.

1318
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: Up garland did uh And cad tried to bring him.

1319
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: Back he scored like nine points in the final eleven.

1320
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: Seconds it was. Wild cad made it one, twelve one

1321
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: oh nine with a three with about sixteen seconds. Left

1322
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: garland hit a free throw made it a two possession.

1323
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: Game cad made three free throws to Pull detroit within

1324
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: one with seven seconds, left but The pistons. Fouled garland

1325
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: sort of had. To he made. Both it's one, fifteen one.

1326
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: Twelve cleveland Fouls kate on a three point. Attempt he

1327
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: hits all three games tied five. Seconds caz just give

1328
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: the ball To. Garland he rushes it down the, court pulls,

1329
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: up LIKE i, said from deep. Splash they win wild.

1330
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: Game part of the reason The cavs Needed garland's heroics

1331
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: There Jared allen guy hit with a flagrant two fel

1332
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: with a minute, togo absolutely. DRUCKING i Saw thompson very

1333
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: on From Jared.

1334
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 3: Allen he's a calm.

1335
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: Guy, yeah he just drucked, him like coming to set

1336
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,959
Speaker 1: a pick And thompson went. Flying but, anyway entertaining game

1337
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: between sort of a cad and girling going back and.

1338
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 2: Forth, yeah it's cool to see a game winner like

1339
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 2: that where a guy has to do it like he

1340
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 2: went with an inside out dribble dribbled to get uh you,

1341
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 2: know it's kind of a cary kind of but does

1342
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: that doesn't get called? Anymore right before he gets a game.

1343
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 2: Winner it wasn't just a you, know A b line

1344
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 2: straight line game. Winner so it was Pretty it was.

1345
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: Pretty nice bounce back game From Evan mobley. Too he

1346
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: had just had a stinker thirty, points sixteen, shots nine,

1347
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: boards seven assists and four. Blocks and on the other

1348
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: note from last, night because it's like completely went under the,

1349
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: radar shade Gildess alexander another fifty point. Game, yeah his

1350
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: third and what a? Week he never had a week

1351
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: about three.

1352
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,919
Speaker 4: WEEKS i think he's like one a week for, okay

1353
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 4: MAYBE i, mean that's.

1354
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: AMAZING i should have said month then three in a

1355
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: month After i'm.

1356
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 3: Trying to remember my schleckt.

1357
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: Tweets, yeah, yeah that's what he.

1358
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 3: Said that's.

1359
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 2: Right.

1360
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1361
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 4: Yeah warriors also blew a crazy, lead like they were

1362
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 4: up eleven with what three minutes left or something like.

1363
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 4: That blew the lead against The Utah, jazz who were

1364
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 4: surprising teams right. Now they're catching some teams off. Guard

1365
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 4: and obviously The warriors just had a weird, lineup but

1366
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 4: they still should have won that.

1367
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 2: One, Yeah curry was busy Texting jimmy at, halftime apparently

1368
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 2: to be excited for the. Future and you mentioned The

1369
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 2: Sacramento kings and how they were struggling. Offensively great For

1370
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 2: orlando to get a. Win it's been a while to

1371
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 2: score one hundred and thirty. Points it's been a long

1372
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 2: time for them to put together a good offensive performance

1373
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 2: and it helps their playing The Sacramento.

1374
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: Kings, say scored fifty four against The jazz On january twenty,

1375
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: Second so what's that but two WEEKS i, guess, yeah

1376
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: two and a half. Weeks then he had the fifty

1377
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: two point game in the loss to The warriors on

1378
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: the twenty, ninth and then, yeah now he had the

1379
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: fifty point game in the win last.

1380
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 2: Night, yeah that's the. Sun everybody was calling those two

1381
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 2: fifty point performances within a. Week he's never, done never

1382
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 2: done it, before but now he had two within a,

1383
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 2: week which is technically eight days, anyway but.

1384
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: Anyway, anyways, Cooking uh pick them for tonight. Tasks where

1385
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: are we? Going you're owing three eshes three and oh the,

1386
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: swerve the four, swerve having the Tape Orlando magic after

1387
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:27,439
Speaker 1: we all took The, kings he gets the w trace

1388
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: two and one on one and. Two where we're?

1389
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 2: GOING i know where we're. GOING i don't know what's

1390
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 2: gonna happen because it's those those. Lineups who knows who's?

1391
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 2: Playing literally at this, time it's.

1392
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: Weird we're playing, basketball like when this is all going,

1393
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: on strange.

1394
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 3: Way Steve currs, like, ah we should go back to how.

1395
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 2: It used to.

1396
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 3: Be, yeah do it at the trade? Deadline, YEAH i

1397
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 3: have all star.

1398
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: Breaks yeah that was also. Awkward yeah it, Was, yeah it.

1399
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: WAS i like, THIS i think, more but it's just

1400
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: strange these games are. Going.

1401
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 2: Right speaking Of Steve, kerry he's going into The Los Angeles,

1402
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 2: lakers and they're getting seven and a half. Points The

1403
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 2: Golden State wars are seven and a half point. Underdogs

1404
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 2: they just have to lose by seven or, less while

1405
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 2: The lakers have to win by eight or. More so we're.

1406
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 2: Split esh AND i are taking The warriors and those. Points,

1407
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 2: Okay trey And skeet's taking Those Los Angeles. Lakers who

1408
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 2: is playing for The Los Angeles? Lakers who is playing

1409
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:19,919
Speaker 2: for The Golden State?

1410
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 3: Warriors, YEAH i mean The lakers stuff one on?

1411
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: One, Yeah lakers are missing a lot of, guys are

1412
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: because Now connects.

1413
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 4: Gone, Yeah luca's not ready. Yet, Nope reddish see.

1414
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: It mark won't be, There, No, Mark, yeah No, Mark,

1415
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: yeah we'll See. Yeah but but you, know The warriors

1416
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: obviously in the same. Boat Jimmy butler's not. Playing they

1417
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,919
Speaker 1: lost a lot of. Guys we're to have Some Pat

1418
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: spencer minutes, tonight. Baby.

1419
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah i've got a question About Pat. Spencer every

1420
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 2: TIME i see him on the, bench he's got his

1421
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 2: warm up jacket, On like even after he, plays it

1422
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,959
Speaker 2: looks like he's got his jacket. ON i just, wonder

1423
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 2: Like Brent, barry does he ever take his jacket off

1424
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 2: and it also has got plays, absolutely but he also

1425
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 2: has the undershirt when he plays like false, LEEVE i mean.

1426
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: Suffers from upper body.

1427
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 4: Coldness dozens of people by upper across the.

1428
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: Glow that's why he's got the Unders, yeah, yeah, yeah

1429
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: what was what.

1430
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 2: Was the syndrome BLANKET jd was the syndrome that you

1431
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 2: got hit with those.

1432
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: Just that's his hand. Hands what's it called.

1433
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 5: You're calling my medical conditions out?

1434
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 2: Here, yeah, yeah you hip.

1435
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 5: Violation it's rain RAIN oddsd rain odds. RAINOADS i call it.

1436
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 2: Rainodes and that was just a situation where your hand was,

1437
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 2: cold almost. Cold not.

1438
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 5: Necessary it's like the blood leaves my. Fingers, yeah that's all.

1439
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: Because you're always making the magic. Happen.

1440
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 5: Magic it flows out of my fingers along with all

1441
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 5: of my bloods Oh, Dale yeah.

1442
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: Twenty years think about. Me think how much blood has

1443
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: left his fingers or?

1444
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 5: Magic no idea ants and.

1445
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: Toes, yeah you, know have a standing.

1446
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 5: Desk that's.

1447
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 2: True we're not calling you out because you did talk about.

1448
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 2: It you're, right you're right when we talked ABOUT.

1449
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 5: I was just stalling to get the camera over To.

1450
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah well, done that was well. Done.

1451
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: Man you need to stalk up on some. Energy i'm stocked. Up,

1452
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: heay you're we're going to get off the air right.

1453
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:33,959
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna flip this into a. Podcast we're gonna

1454
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: be back before you know.

1455
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 5: It i'm ready with the.

1456
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 3: Board J D.

1457
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: E Nba Trade Deadline, special two Pm. Eastern he caught something.

1458
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 5: Along that's magic coming out.

1459
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: Magic that was that Flam, no that's. Magic we're live

1460
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: at two Pm eastern and we'll see if there are

1461
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: any trades left to. Make, otherwise you, know who knows

1462
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: what we'll talk about during that, hour but we hope

1463
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: to see. It that hit the light button. Subscribe love

1464
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: to see if everybody on YouTube here this morning and

1465
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,439
Speaker 1: everybody like joining us for all these emergency podcasts over

1466
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: the last week doing big numbers and a lot of people.

1467
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: Subscribing that's. Great podcast, listeners love you as. Well leave

1468
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: your boys at five star rating and. Review we do

1469
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: have The drop podcast. TOMORROW i mean we'll do probably

1470
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: like a big picture winners and losers of THE Nba Trade,

1471
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: deadline maybe some worst of the week candidates five Star friday.

1472
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: REVIEWS i don't. KNOW i, mean we got, them we got,

1473
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: them we got.

1474
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 2: Them maybe people are. Reviewing, yeah thank.

1475
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: You how about your worst of the week batch though

1476
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: you sort Of, yeah it was a little.

1477
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:38,799
Speaker 2: Relectant we've got such a huge winners and losers factor, here.

1478
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: T, yeah you'll have to tune in to find. Out

1479
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: but until two Pm eastern later. Today clipper. Bros you

1480
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: heard it here.

1481
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 3: First have a great, time turn. Up love you, guys, Awesome.

1482
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining, us and remember if you know someone

1483
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 2: who needs a, Job canada men's basketball needs a coach.

1484
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: Already fernandez stepping, Aside.

1485
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 3: Huh i'll do, It i'll do.

1486
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: It i'll do.

1487
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 2: It Nick nurse gets you laugh.

1488
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 1: Again undefeated as A ymca basketball, coach never.

1489
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 3: Lost you know the, roster you got that, shirt all

1490
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 3: the names on the Bad let me check. This, Okay lo's?

1491
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: It, okay all right to Kill you're? In all? Right

1492
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: advice today, people