Speaker 1: Wind down with Janet Kramer, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we got one walking in from therapy, we
Speaker 2: got one walking in from home home work. I had
Speaker 2: my appointment with Roman done done, done, Oh so much
Speaker 2: to catch up on KB go oh boy, you would
Speaker 2: lead with me the emotionally tender one.
Speaker 3: I would just like to say, it is hard to
Speaker 3: not have family.
Speaker 2: Oh like here to help or just like any even
Speaker 2: want to cry.
Speaker 3: I just texted Janna this the other day because I
Speaker 3: was like fucking tired of not being able to count
Speaker 3: on people. It's really hard, and I know I'm not
Speaker 3: the only one dealing with it, and so I just
Speaker 3: feel like it's a moment of just real tearful honesty
Speaker 3: that it just sucks to cycle breakers into the people
Speaker 3: that I am positive for me forward, my family legacy changes,
Speaker 3: in the dynamic of my family changes. But it is hard,
Speaker 3: king work, and it's exhausting and it's lonely. And that's
Speaker 3: what therapy was today. I just was like, I'm just.
Speaker 2: I'm not lonely in my marriage.
Speaker 3: Our marriage is actually really in like probably the best
Speaker 3: place it's ever been, but like it's hard, you know,
Speaker 3: like there's a weekend coming up where Preston is gone
Speaker 3: doing what Preston does to provide for our family. And
Speaker 3: I have to somehow be downtown Nashville at a two
Speaker 3: day cheer competition and also be at a baseball game
Speaker 3: thirty minutes away. And it's just me and I'll be
Speaker 3: doing all that with a toddler on my hip. And
Speaker 3: even if I can send someone or have someone take
Speaker 3: legend to his game, that's not his family.
Speaker 1: Sure, and you don't want you want to be both places?
Speaker 3: Yes, is also I'd like to be in four places,
Speaker 3: one of which is at home, allowing my toddler to
Speaker 3: have a nap in her crib. That's a lot. Sorry,
Speaker 3: I didn't plan on crying, but I'm just frustrated. It's
Speaker 3: just it's just hard, and I don't like feeling stuck,
Speaker 3: and I don't like feeling impossible. And certainly I can
Speaker 3: pay people to come get my kids and take them.
Speaker 3: But and even if I think this is the hardest
Speaker 3: part from you right now, I don't have a strong
Speaker 3: crying voice.
Speaker 2: I think even if I did.
Speaker 3: Recruit a grandparent, they don't have close relationships with those people,
Speaker 3: and so it doesn't matter if they're family and air
Speaker 3: quotes or not because my kids don't they don't know
Speaker 3: my kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear, I feel that on that.
Speaker 1: So that's what I was going to not to disc
Speaker 1: I don't know if it would sound like I was
Speaker 1: discounting your feelings.
Speaker 3: That is a flood of emotion really fast. Sorry, but
Speaker 3: this is like I haven't been able to say it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't want it to sound like I'm discounting.
Speaker 1: Just those are all valid. But I feel like for me,
Speaker 1: even though I may have a parent that's there, that
Speaker 1: doesn't fill that void. No, and that's unfortunate, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a person there.
Speaker 3: I mean, I have a brother who hasn't met my
Speaker 3: third baby, and sometimes I am I protect that information brother,
Speaker 3: Yeah right, And sometimes I protect that information, but like
Speaker 3: part of me doing that is just perpetuating the cycle
Speaker 3: of dysfunction. Like I don't need to protect him. Isn't
Speaker 3: met my daughter. And last time we saw the other
Speaker 3: brother on the other side was four years ago until
Speaker 3: like two weekends ago. Like it's lonely, yeah, and I
Speaker 3: have the best friends. Like God, I fully believe he
Speaker 3: supplements any lack with just abundance in all the other areas,
Speaker 3: But like that doesn't make me wish that there wasn't
Speaker 3: a grandparent that could just that knows them and knows
Speaker 3: the routine and the rhythm of the house or whatever.
Speaker 3: And I think people go through this for a lot
Speaker 3: of reasons, whether you're transplanted into an area you didn't
Speaker 3: grow up in, or you've lost parents, or or it's
Speaker 3: unhealthy and you've set those boundaries for yourself. But like,
Speaker 3: it just sucks, and I don't I do not like
Speaker 3: the word impossible. I am highly allergic to it. So
Speaker 3: when something starts to feel that way, I just I
Speaker 3: don't like it.
Speaker 2: I'm a doer.
Speaker 3: I like to move pieces and make solutions and and
Speaker 3: sometimes it's just hard. And that's what I just walked
Speaker 3: in with the Amy today. I was like, it's just hard.
Speaker 2: I mean, I obviously relate to a lot of that.
Speaker 2: Our family isn't here. Even when they are, it's yes,
Speaker 2: not the most helpful piece, but that's you know how
Speaker 2: many times they come once maybe a year. Yeah, But
Speaker 2: on the side of that is you know, games at
Speaker 2: the same time, different places I've got, you know, my
Speaker 2: husband is now doing his clinics at night, so it's okay,
Speaker 2: and I also need roaming down, so I've been changing
Speaker 2: hours so that she can stay you know, later, or
Speaker 2: I take him sometimes, but it's like all right if
Speaker 2: she's there. So it's like trying to coordinate. It's a
Speaker 2: lot when you don't feel like you have anybody here
Speaker 2: to help, even and that's already kind of like a
Speaker 2: truth to me. And you know, it's already a sting
Speaker 2: even though we can hire. It's just it's still a
Speaker 2: sting on top of it because even if they it's
Speaker 2: not like we can just call because I know what
Speaker 2: I I know who I will be as a grandparent. Correct,
Speaker 2: I will be very close. I might not live in
Speaker 2: the same area. I would like to hope that I will.
Speaker 2: But when there is let's just say spring season of
Speaker 2: whatever sports, I'm going to make sure that I'm staying
Speaker 2: for a couple of months to help or to be
Speaker 2: there or to watch. I can't imagine my dad, mom,
Speaker 2: I'm not seeing any either, Like then they don't. It
Speaker 2: doesn't even seem like they care, just come see a
Speaker 2: game or you know.
Speaker 3: I think that's also tricky because then it's Preston that
Speaker 3: reminds me it's not that they're just missing the kids.
Speaker 3: They're also missing a daughter. Yeah, like I say, your
Speaker 3: dad and your your and I'm like, man, I was.
Speaker 1: I was about to correct and say, my dad is
Speaker 1: the single best at taking all the grandkids' schedules. Now
Speaker 1: there's a lot of them, so he will miss things,
Speaker 1: but he is at everything that he can, so I
Speaker 1: will get you know, and my mom does her best
Speaker 1: as well. I think my point was more that for me,
Speaker 1: I'm still going to feel the same way that I
Speaker 1: can't be there, regardless if my parents are there or
Speaker 1: not sure, And I don't know if maybe they had
Speaker 1: a stronger like personal bond though he's there all the
Speaker 1: time though my mom is there. I don't. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say they have the strongest bond, but I think that
Speaker 1: was kind of my thing. I think that I still
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm sure I feel differently than you all.
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm trying not to like sound insensitive, because yes,
Speaker 1: my dad goes to as much as he can.
Speaker 2: You have family here, though, so it's about one.
Speaker 1: Hundred percent exactly. It's like, and it's help whether they're
Speaker 1: super close or not. I have that help here and
Speaker 1: I've had that help here, and that is a tremendous
Speaker 1: help and difference from you guys one percent. Uh, Like,
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine, honestly not having that. Now that
Speaker 1: my kids are older, it's gotten, you know, a lot easier,
Speaker 1: and I don't need that as much. But when they're little, God,
Speaker 1: that piece is so it is so helpful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's just a I.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just felt lonely and I don't love it.
Speaker 3: But it's also like there's like what can you.
Speaker 1: Do about it? Well, it's also as the sports and
Speaker 1: as you have more kids, and as the sports get
Speaker 1: really busy, they start overlapping. And it's so funny because
Speaker 1: I was so ahead of everyone on this, and like,
Speaker 1: you know, I love logistics, so to me, it's like
Speaker 1: a puzzle that I to an extent enjoy piecing together.
Speaker 1: But when you can't be in two places at one
Speaker 1: time no matter what, it is so hard.
Speaker 2: Same got she's got a game, Nolan's fault, and then
Speaker 2: he's over there at the exact same time, same day,
Speaker 2: and then like nap time for romance, he's out. A'm like,
Speaker 2: what do I do? How do I do it? How
Speaker 2: do I stretch?
Speaker 3: And here's the deal and I'm gonna have to like
Speaker 3: drop him. I think I have the solution. Ish. My
Speaker 3: prayer is that cheercomp is early and we go first,
Speaker 3: and that I can just get out early before I
Speaker 3: won't know anything until literally that day probably and then
Speaker 3: I can still. I always feel like God does move
Speaker 3: pieces from me, So I don't want to sound ungrateful either,
Speaker 3: because he's very busy untangling and behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: And even if Preston was here, that's going to help,
Speaker 1: because you're going to feel like a parent is there,
Speaker 1: You're still going to wish you could go to both.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I wis you think a lot of
Speaker 2: moms are also going through this as well, so to
Speaker 2: know that you're not alone and absolutely when you stress out,
Speaker 2: it's kind of your kids are active, like that's a
Speaker 2: beautiful thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Love only does two cheer comps a year,
Speaker 3: so I'm like, it's not like you know, like I really,
Speaker 3: it's like they're so not that there. They wouldn't be
Speaker 3: special if there was more. But I also am like,
Speaker 3: it's not even like I can take her.
Speaker 1: Very few When they're like very few, it does feel very.
Speaker 3: Like I couldn't even take her out. I wouldn't because
Speaker 3: we're part of the team. But it's like, there's just
Speaker 3: I don't love that feeling. Yeah, and I'm going to
Speaker 3: have a baby at a cheercomp no matter what. Anyways,
Speaker 3: for that straight hot out of therapy, wait my question,
Speaker 3: and I just.
Speaker 1: First of all, let me know when this sheer comp is.
Speaker 1: I want to try to come out an anti can.
Speaker 2: Watch it because I still haven't seen her.
Speaker 1: And then i'll also unless it's the same weekend as
Speaker 1: isn't this.
Speaker 3: Week in which we have another schedule yet overlapping.
Speaker 2: So I started watching White Lotus the first the first season.
Speaker 2: I feel like I I know, so I feel like
Speaker 2: I do this with every show. I did it with Yellowstone,
Speaker 2: I didn't watch until last season. I did this with
Speaker 2: Ted ted Lasso started last season and I started, have
Speaker 2: you seen White Lotus? No, person, you gotta started? It's
Speaker 2: so good? See how you explain? But it is so good.
Speaker 2: But it's so good. But anyone's explanation didn't make me
Speaker 2: want to watch it.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to explain it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's just it's so good.
Speaker 1: It is so good. I always the first one was
Speaker 1: my favorite.
Speaker 2: That's what I remember you saying, so I've already prepped.
Speaker 2: Alan like, hey, I don't think season two is going
Speaker 2: to be bad. It wasn't bad, Okay, I'm a I'm
Speaker 2: excited to watch it. But the show I really want
Speaker 2: to talk about is Adolescence. I haven't watched because it's
Speaker 2: a it's a mom uh. It's a show that I
Speaker 2: think all moms should watch and number one right now.
Speaker 2: And Dad's yes, absolutely, and Dad's good point. It is
Speaker 2: on Netflix. It's the number one TV show right now.
Speaker 2: It's actually a UK show. Alan's like, hey, it's the
Speaker 2: UK show. We should watch it. Awesome. Knew nothing about it.
Speaker 2: The last episode I was in just a puddle of tears.
Speaker 2: It really makes you think about your parenting. But also
Speaker 2: if I need that right now. But it's good. I
Speaker 2: think it's good for the a lot of it. Well.
Speaker 2: I don't want to give it all away obviously because
Speaker 2: I want people to watch it, but I think it's
Speaker 2: I think it's scary. The world that our kids are
Speaker 2: growing up in was with social media and how bullying
Speaker 2: you don't even know that it could be bullying with
Speaker 2: just a simple emoji, and that's the things that you know.
Speaker 2: We're all learning these new words that kids are coming
Speaker 2: home with or no cap cramer, what's that mean? That's good.
Speaker 2: I'm proud of me. I don't even know what hapabi mean.
Speaker 2: I just know in a sentence, well, one they thought
Speaker 2: that someone was bullying someone, but really you find out
Speaker 2: that this girl was actually bullying him. And I won't
Speaker 2: tell you what happens, but it's wild though, because I
Speaker 2: was I was reading some things online and the entire
Speaker 2: time I did not want to believe that it was him,
Speaker 2: and I kept saying, it's not him, It's going to
Speaker 2: be something else that happens, and it's gonna.
Speaker 1: Which is the point I know in the show, which
Speaker 1: is so messed up because I'm like.
Speaker 2: You know me, so cute and like he would never
Speaker 2: and it's my boy.
Speaker 1: And just the relationship between the child and a parent
Speaker 1: and the relationship that you think that you have and
Speaker 1: then what you think, you know, what you think your
Speaker 1: child is capable of, and what they're not. For that
Speaker 1: to just be completely flipped upside down. I mean, this
Speaker 1: show wrecked me.
Speaker 3: It absolutely right then I can do that right now,
Speaker 3: but I'll put it on my list.
Speaker 1: And you may not be able to. But I will say,
Speaker 1: as emotionally hard as it was. I think it's so
Speaker 1: important for people to watch.
Speaker 3: I'll do I'll watch things when I know they're important.
Speaker 3: I just maybe.
Speaker 1: But you're also a little bit not there yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, either, I want to know, like it is not
Speaker 3: bliss to me.
Speaker 1: So but here's the thing. We're all and that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I'm in the thick of it, and I'm ignorant to
Speaker 1: half of it. And that's what's so hard, Like everyone
Speaker 1: kind of is. Do you see that all.
Speaker 3: Parents before us felt this way that they thought they
Speaker 3: knew but they probably didn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's the extent. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: it's just exponentially more layered and crazy. I got to
Speaker 2: be honest, though, And this is a sad piece that
Speaker 2: I was talking to Jolie about last night, because we
Speaker 2: were getting ready to go to Jas's baseball game. And
Speaker 2: so I like to have them have dinner when they
Speaker 2: get home from school, just because they're always asking for
Speaker 2: a snack anyway. So I usually have a dinner ready
Speaker 2: and made because then we're not eating at eight o'clock
Speaker 2: at night. So I make them a dinner or whatever,
Speaker 2: and we're eating last night I can't remember how I
Speaker 2: chnology came up in the conversation or about kids. And
Speaker 2: one day, when you're a mom, you'll understand. And I said,
Speaker 2: you know what, Jolie, actually never mind, I said, because
Speaker 2: mommy grew up. Remember how we talked about this. I
Speaker 2: was like, mommy grew up with no cell phones, no
Speaker 2: real internet, no you know, we played outside. And so
Speaker 2: that's why I'm always saying to you guys, go outside,
Speaker 2: go outside, don't be on you know, know none of
Speaker 2: this stuff. And this is why you won't have social
Speaker 2: media for a very long time. And I said, but unfortunately,
Speaker 2: you'll you'll never be able to say that to your
Speaker 2: kids because it's going to be a whole another layer
Speaker 2: of technology and you'll never know, not no technology. And
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's such a sad moment. It's weird.
Speaker 2: She'll never not know, never know technology like we did.
Speaker 2: And will will that then generation be at saying to
Speaker 2: go outside? I don't think so it's wild.
Speaker 3: I've been going through our attic space and I've been
Speaker 3: seeing all these pictures of me when I was young. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I thought, oh my god, I was stunning, Like if
Speaker 3: anyone's young and listening just go where it to do it,
Speaker 3: h enjoy the collagen in your face. I was just
Speaker 3: so cute and I just didn't think I was cute.
Speaker 3: But it was funny because in this I had a
Speaker 3: very humboling moment as I'm standing there with love and
Speaker 3: she's like, so you just carried a camera around and
Speaker 3: I go we did, and she's like and then what
Speaker 3: And I'm like, wild right, and you took it to
Speaker 3: a store and you got the stuff.
Speaker 2: But I will just say back to the show though,
Speaker 2: it is about, you know, opening your eyes as a parent,
Speaker 2: really seeing what's gowy happening on social media, understanding things, and.
Speaker 1: I do want to say back to that point, things
Speaker 1: start to circle back around. For instance, you know, one
Speaker 1: of the top Christmas presents for young kids or like
Speaker 1: teenagers this Christmas was cameras. So they're so used to
Speaker 1: what they're used to, right, so it's like a novel,
Speaker 1: something different or whatever. You know. Emmy, for instance, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's got her phone and she's whatever. But like when
Speaker 1: her friends call up and we're like, hey, let's go
Speaker 1: run around the neighborhood, She's.
Speaker 2: Like, yes, let's go. That's right. So I do think
Speaker 2: you can Capture the Flag, come back.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, there's games like that that they do kind of
Speaker 1: so there's.
Speaker 2: Things that we keep parents running.
Speaker 1: We should do that and that I think that they
Speaker 1: will enjoy doing that are not just I think they'll
Speaker 1: get so used to so much technology, and I think
Speaker 1: it will suffer in a lot of help, make us
Speaker 1: suffer in a lot of ways. But I think that
Speaker 1: it'll help. I do think it'll come back around for them.
Speaker 2: Want to go outside and do other things, and all
Speaker 2: parents watch adolescents. Put that on your watch list. I
Speaker 2: have a whine about it, but I feel like it's
Speaker 2: going to be a little controversial. I love those let's.
Speaker 3: I like it when you're controversial.
Speaker 1: Same.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't even know if I want to bring.
Speaker 3: It up and go.
Speaker 2: Unpinned. I need to say this in a way because
Speaker 2: I don't know who listens, and I don't want it
Speaker 2: to come back and have it be a thing. So
Speaker 2: I'm just going to pose a question, okay, and then
Speaker 2: we'll know. Okay, got it. I love it this way.
Speaker 3: I love this, Like, how does the detective work?
Speaker 2: If you are seeing another kid do something like hitting
Speaker 2: another kid and their parents aren't watching, do you say
Speaker 2: something to that other kid. Yes, I do.
Speaker 1: If you are seeing someone's kid hitting another kid, so
Speaker 1: it's not your your kid's not involved.
Speaker 2: I'm just making sure I'm clear that your child, yes,
Speaker 2: would not be involved. It is another your kid hitting
Speaker 2: another kid, and you're looking to see if the parent
Speaker 2: because we might or may or may not be watching
Speaker 2: a baseball game and the other kid is hitting another kid.
Speaker 2: Do you say something to that kid even though you're
Speaker 2: not the parent.
Speaker 3: I thought you're talking about my kid, So I'm like,
Speaker 3: yess is it siblings?
Speaker 2: Pardon? It's another teammate hitting another teammate. No one else
Speaker 2: has noticed.
Speaker 3: I say something.
Speaker 2: It depends I do.
Speaker 1: It depends for me.
Speaker 2: You also say something if you see that same kid
Speaker 2: pouring a juice box on top of another kid and
Speaker 2: hitting the kid on the head, parents still not noticing.
Speaker 2: Is it okay for you to come in and say, boys,
Speaker 2: keep your hands to yourself. Yep? No hitting? Is that okay?
Speaker 2: Okay to discipline somebody that is not your child?
Speaker 3: I don't think. I think disciplining is a really strong
Speaker 3: word for diab but I do have But I do.
Speaker 3: I guess there's a wine in it. But I just
Speaker 3: want to open.
Speaker 2: I want to open the topic of that because it
Speaker 2: made me question if that is okay or not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you're disciplining. I think if you're
Speaker 3: just advising, you're coming in with your responsibility an adult
Speaker 3: to say something if you're seeing it over and over again,
Speaker 3: because that if the kid, if the kid that's getting
Speaker 3: the juice box poured on his head isn't able to
Speaker 3: say something, a very younger kid can't say anything.
Speaker 2: That's a separate kid. The other kid that he is
Speaker 2: hitting is just a team. And then somebody else's than
Speaker 2: the same kid, just a different little kid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a responsibility as the village to
Speaker 3: say something because if you're the little kid who can't
Speaker 3: say something, you wished an adult would say it for you.
Speaker 3: And that is where I always stay passionate. And that
Speaker 3: could be childhood trauma, but I love sticking up for kids.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't come in and try to fix their situation necessarily,
Speaker 3: but I think how refreshing it would be that someone
Speaker 3: notices that happening.
Speaker 1: I absolutely agree with you, but I'm afraid we don't
Speaker 1: live in that world anymore. And I think that you
Speaker 1: have to be willing to deal with the consequences of it.
Speaker 1: If I saw a child pouring a juice box on
Speaker 1: a younger child, I actually would step in. I would
Speaker 1: actually go up to that said child and I would say, hey,
Speaker 1: that's not appropriate, let's not do this, knowing darn well
Speaker 1: that that parent may not be okay with that. And
Speaker 1: we live in a world now where people don't give
Speaker 1: you permission to discipline their children.
Speaker 2: That was my fear.
Speaker 1: Yes, I've lived this as they've gotten older.
Speaker 2: Okay, tell me more like there are.
Speaker 1: Plenty of instances where parents have stepped in, and parents
Speaker 1: have come and said, you're not necessarily me, but not
Speaker 1: your place. I think though, for me, if it is
Speaker 1: enough for me to want to say it to that child,
Speaker 1: and I am kind and I'm respectful, and I'm an
Speaker 1: adult and no adult is seeing it, fine, you can
Speaker 1: get mad at me. I don't care.
Speaker 3: Well, they're they're rebuttal to you is exactly the problem,
Speaker 3: exactly so, And I'm not this is if I'm seeing
Speaker 3: this person. I'm assuming we're seeing this one kid over
Speaker 3: and over and over again. I also don't know there's the
Speaker 3: kid's fault either, To be honest with you, Yeah.
Speaker 1: But guess what kids are going to continue with a
Speaker 1: behavior right if it is not corrected. And yes, the
Speaker 1: village mentality I would do anything to still have.
Speaker 3: And this isn't me going you sit down right now.
Speaker 2: That's just like, hey, buddy, I see I'm behind the
Speaker 2: cage right yeah. And again when I run the line
Speaker 2: like last year and I was in Jolisaw, I'm like, girls,
Speaker 2: listen up, like stop stop, like you know, get down
Speaker 2: from the gazoll, climb like we don't climb in the things.
Speaker 2: Get down like that's you know, because I'm like in
Speaker 2: it there, but I'm not in the cage. I'm just
Speaker 2: kind of observing. I'm sitting back. I don't like to talk.
Speaker 2: I like to just sit watch the game, you know whatever.
Speaker 2: And I'm observing this, not once, not twice, and so
Speaker 2: finally I just said, boys, keep your hands to yourself,
Speaker 2: no hitting in there, and then I thought, rap, no,
Speaker 2: I love that. Oh I think it's I don't know
Speaker 2: if I could if I should have said that, because
Speaker 2: and then the second time was the other was pouring
Speaker 2: the thing, and I said, I don't think your mama
Speaker 2: would like that, you know, And then that's when you know,
Speaker 2: I think the mom heard, and that's where I was like, crap,
Speaker 2: and is she upset at me for saying But I'm
Speaker 2: like this little kid who can't speak for himself because
Speaker 2: it was you.
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, is I don't think that's bad. It's like
Speaker 3: if you're in there and you like, have you seen
Speaker 3: the viral video of the high school basketball coach.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh, like the new one pulling the girls. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, and that other girl that stood up for
Speaker 1: her is what stood out to me. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: This coach pulls, sorry to change them, but this coach
Speaker 1: pulls kind of in alignment because one of his player's ponytails,
Speaker 1: pulls her hair. This other player sees it, literally grabs
Speaker 1: her friend, pulls her away and starts like getting in
Speaker 1: the coach's face, like you know, I mean he got fired. Yeah,
Speaker 1: obviously we're living in a world that that is what
Speaker 1: I believe is probably one of single handling one of
Speaker 1: the things that's ruining us the most. I mean again,
Speaker 1: as long as you are respectful and you are kind, yes,
Speaker 1: and you were just making sure that this other childe,
Speaker 1: I see zero problem with it.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not saying thinking like I'm sure at times, well,
Speaker 2: I hope, I hope not, but I'm sure at times,
Speaker 2: you know, I've like they don't the coach doesn't like them,
Speaker 2: you know, throwing the sand. They're an age boys, like,
Speaker 2: let's not throw sand whatever.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: I'm sure at some point Jace has I hope not again,
Speaker 2: because I've raised them to always keep your hands to yourself,
Speaker 2: no pushing, no hitting like that is a big one
Speaker 2: in our household, Like we just don't do it. We
Speaker 2: can like wrestle, but like you're not hitting your sister,
Speaker 2: you're not hitting other people, You're keeping your hands to
Speaker 2: yourself at games, et cetera. And so I'm not saying
Speaker 2: this this kid is bad or anything like that. I
Speaker 2: just witnessed it, kept seeing it, and that's when it
Speaker 2: was like my own stuff to say, hey, I don't
Speaker 2: think you know, keep your hands and I do.
Speaker 1: Still yeah, I do, still go back. It kind of depends.
Speaker 1: I think that if it feels not so bad, I
Speaker 1: might not, but if it felt major, I might. So
Speaker 1: I do think it depends on the situation. But in
Speaker 1: going back to like, I don't think any kids are bad.
Speaker 1: I think all kids are good. They can make bad
Speaker 1: choices and they can do bad things, and I would
Speaker 1: hope that the parents are paying attention.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think in that situation, if I did step in,
Speaker 1: I did say something, and then the parent whatever, I
Speaker 1: would just say, hey, you know, I just I saw this.
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if you saw. And if they get mad,
Speaker 1: they get mad.
Speaker 2: Well, because the same if that, if Jace was doing that,
Speaker 2: I hope someone would say that, and I'd be like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, Jay stop. If I looked away or
Speaker 2: was getting right because I get a chasing Roman at
Speaker 2: the last game, I would be like, buddy, stop, don't
Speaker 2: you know I personally would want that, but I just
Speaker 2: would want to bring up to your mom. I think
Speaker 2: in world second I said, it.
Speaker 1: Was like, I think we do live in a world
Speaker 1: now though you almost have to have permission to correct,
Speaker 1: you know, like I don't know behavior, but I don't
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: I think we just do a disservice to them to
Speaker 3: let them continue to do things like that, and I
Speaker 3: think it's better for them to know there are other
Speaker 3: people watching. The reality is other people will be watching
Speaker 3: as they get older too.
Speaker 1: I do think though, as they get older, it gets
Speaker 1: harder and you have to bite your tongue a lot more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't imagine as much as they get older, as
Speaker 1: much as I have and I would like to, it
Speaker 1: gets much harder to do.
Speaker 2: Anybody else got a whine about it, I don't. I
Speaker 2: kind of it was more just like I liked it.
Speaker 2: I mean I then really whine about it was more
Speaker 2: a question did I do the wrong thing? But now
Speaker 2: I think it fits in there because it is like
Speaker 2: I think there's probably a lot of parents facing similar Yeah,
Speaker 2: and we've even done that with playdates.
Speaker 3: Like there's certain kids. I'm like, I don't want to
Speaker 3: not have that kid over anymore. But the fact that
Speaker 3: it's he's destructive to property is not okay.
Speaker 2: No, So we're just learning.
Speaker 3: But we've gone through that a lot with love too,
Speaker 3: Like we have a girl that isn't very kind and
Speaker 3: I've said to love, I was like, you know, the
Speaker 3: more that she gets away with it, it's a muscle
Speaker 3: just like kindnesses, and so you don't like, I don't
Speaker 3: want her to turn out, you know, not that this
Speaker 3: single situation or us as a family, but like just
Speaker 3: for her to learn that she could be nicer that
Speaker 3: the way she said it hurts your feelings or whatever,
Speaker 3: you know, a little sort of a community communication.
Speaker 1: Yep, I agree.
Speaker 2: New couple alert, Oh, Shalne Woodley and Emily and Paris
Speaker 2: actor Lucas Bravo show off PDA in Paris. Gotta tell you,
Speaker 2: I thought it looked like Aaron Rodgers whenever I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: they got back together, cute, and I was like, oh wow, Gabrielle.
Speaker 3: It is Gabrielle, but he's wearing Packer colors, so it.
Speaker 2: Made me really little. Oh yeah, yeah, really threw us off.
Speaker 2: I love both of them. Have said that, and now
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about another Emily. Emily and Paris
Speaker 2: another good show to watch. I wasn't a Gabrielle fan
Speaker 2: this last season.
Speaker 3: I think it's because he's mushy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do. I love them separately, so I
Speaker 2: think it's really cute.
Speaker 3: I also love that they're in Paris when the PDA
Speaker 3: was captured. Just felt very fitting. I agree, he's Lucas.
Speaker 3: You guys, Benny Blanco fans, did I say his name right?
Speaker 3: Benny Benny Blanco?
Speaker 2: You're not? Would that be hyper cool? Because I feel
Speaker 2: like Selena Gomez.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, poor guy, We're like is he a singer creamer,
Speaker 4: apparently he's got some new grooming uh done.
Speaker 2: In a hilarious new video post to the music producers TikTok,
Speaker 2: account Blanco can be seen getting his eyebrows plucked and
Speaker 2: shaved as his actress and musician fiance Selena Gomez stands
Speaker 2: in the background. So you know, he's getting his uh
Speaker 2: his glow up by his girl. And I think there's
Speaker 2: something wrong with it. Oh, I think that's cute. I
Speaker 2: think no, as long as he's fine. Have you ever
Speaker 2: suggested your husband to change something? Yes? Really?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course, like what he was super spray
Speaker 3: Tanny when I first met him, and I was like,
Speaker 3: this cannot we have to change. But it wasn't spray tan,
Speaker 3: so we have we're changing. The solution that was, Oh,
Speaker 3: that's so funny.
Speaker 1: That's funny.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 3: Anything else that wasn't even mean. I was just like, hey,
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, dudes, don't know. Sometimes my husband's like
Speaker 3: fun to me though, like I really.
Speaker 1: Just like I don't like, I mean, my husband has
Speaker 1: not great style all the things. I just don't care.
Speaker 1: That stuff doesn't really bother me. I have suggested like,
Speaker 1: like I don't know hair stuff, but he has no hair,
Speaker 1: so there's that.
Speaker 2: I could never suggest anything to Alan like he because
Speaker 2: I mean, he has very thick wrinkles on his forehead,
Speaker 2: but that's also who he is and he's those forever
Speaker 2: and I personally love them. And you know, we had
Speaker 2: talked one time about something. He was doing one of
Speaker 2: my little face things that I use. He's like, does
Speaker 2: this actually work? And I was like, why are you
Speaker 2: are you worried about the wrinkles. He's like knowing, He's like,
Speaker 2: I would never do botox, but and he's like, but
Speaker 2: you know, I'll try this little wand thing. So we
Speaker 2: did it like once or whatever. But I would never say, like,
Speaker 2: you should get botox.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. They're comfortable then they're comfortable with
Speaker 1: it's they're not confident.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but I mean yeah, if he was over
Speaker 2: spray tanning, I would be like, like, off the spray. Well.
Speaker 3: It was like there was a little bit of a
Speaker 3: grand theft auto period Preston went through before I got
Speaker 3: to him, and he was you know, he's a bachelor,
Speaker 3: and I was like, hey, this is just what we
Speaker 3: have to use instead. He's really fine.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think any of us would do
Speaker 2: if our husband's had a unibrow, would you make him
Speaker 2: pluck it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would suggest it. I wouldn't make him, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I would never say. But also, like you guys, it's like,
Speaker 3: I'm at the age i'm going to have myself. I'm
Speaker 3: at the age where I'm getting the hairs on the
Speaker 3: change in chin, and I'm like, if y'all saw one,
Speaker 3: I would hope as a friend, you'd be like, hey girl, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: So that would be the helping out. Yeah, for sure, agreed. God,
Speaker 2: I would never want him to call that out though,
Speaker 2: that's what I say I would. I would just go sour.
Speaker 1: I mean would I'm sure and I would have I
Speaker 1: don't yeast him.
Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't.
Speaker 3: He'd be like, hey baby, it would be sweet. He's
Speaker 3: just so kind about me, right, yeah, yeah, and I'm
Speaker 3: kind about him.
Speaker 2: I wasn't like this, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely wouldn't like it if if like,
Speaker 1: you know, because we all know him, I got my
Speaker 1: eyebrows done a while. If he came and was like, hey,
Speaker 1: your eyebrows, like, I wouldn't like that. So I would
Speaker 1: definitely be careful about how.
Speaker 2: My big thing is stink, like if you're stinky deodorant
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, Like if he was a natural deodorant,
Speaker 2: that would not work.
Speaker 3: When that works, that's clean, okay. And it hasn't been
Speaker 3: a game changer for me because throw me the secret.
Speaker 3: I'm on testa Huster own and it's I it's a
Speaker 3: different I hate it. I've never been secret. Mine's like,
Speaker 3: I don't even know what I use. I'm not any
Speaker 3: of the natural. I don't know whatever.
Speaker 2: Herd is not natural, That's what I'm saying. Mine's even worse.
Speaker 2: But I can't be honest. I just that's the one
Speaker 2: thing I wouldn't be able to handle.
Speaker 1: I wish they worked. If you've really found one, let
Speaker 1: us know.
Speaker 3: I really love it so far, and I'm like two
Speaker 3: weeks in.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Question for the girls, how do you handle your
Speaker 2: young children when they make remarks about ghosts and hearing things.
Speaker 2: For example, my daughter is almost four and told me
Speaker 2: this morning that she heard someone from our garage calling
Speaker 2: her name. It was five point thirty in the morning,
Speaker 2: no one was out in the garage, but she was
Speaker 2: very adamant about hearing it and wanting to do and
Speaker 2: wanting to know who it was. She wasn't scared, just curious.
Speaker 2: I'm wondering how you handle that conversation, especially from a
Speaker 2: biblical standpoint. We are Christians and wholeheartedly believe in Jess.
Speaker 2: This in our home. Thanks love listening to y'all every week.
Speaker 2: Hey girl, it's a good question. That's a great question,
Speaker 2: a really good question.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget one time when Kayden young he said
Speaker 1: something about someone upstairs and we were like, well, we're
Speaker 1: never going upstairs again. But I've honestly never Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: never really encountered this though, other than that, you know,
Speaker 1: like say someone to say to speak. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know. He was so little, I don't remember. I
Speaker 1: remember we just like turned it. He was like a toddler,
Speaker 1: so like we just like we still laugh about it,
Speaker 1: but we didn't really have to have the conversation. It
Speaker 1: never happened again. Yeah, Ramsey is currently kind of scared
Speaker 1: and thinks that the other bedroom is haunted, so we
Speaker 1: like talk through that sometimes. But I've never had that situation,
Speaker 1: so I don't really know.
Speaker 3: I had it with my dad right after my dad died,
Speaker 3: Like literally moments after my dad died, I came out
Speaker 3: of the bathroom. That's where I was melting. And I
Speaker 3: came out to get to the kids and I can
Speaker 3: only get to the doorway. I just didn't have enough,
Speaker 3: like I was just sad. So I sat in the
Speaker 3: doorway and the kids came over to me. I was
Speaker 3: just loving Legend at the time in Preston. I mean,
Speaker 3: obviously that's the only two kids I had at the time.
Speaker 3: But we sat down in Legend was I don't even
Speaker 3: know how old guys young, like three and a half four,
Speaker 3: And he said, there's so many people here. And my
Speaker 3: husband was like, yeah, well, we're all here, buddy, like
Speaker 3: you know, me and love and Mama. And he said, no,
Speaker 3: there's so many people here. And the man's here. And
Speaker 3: he was like, who's the man, And he's like the
Speaker 3: man he just came through the garage. He's right here
Speaker 3: with us right now.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, like I just I mean,
Speaker 3: also not in a state to be feeling questions. But
Speaker 3: I feel like when it's happened to us, it's felt
Speaker 3: more like a visit than like a haunting. I sometimes
Speaker 3: think that even if we filter well what kids are watching,
Speaker 3: I think a lot of those things start to come through.
Speaker 3: Like they have such crazy, wild imaginations, like great imaginations,
Speaker 3: but like it can go the wrong way sometimes if
Speaker 3: they've seen anything like Goooby Doo, even it is spooky
Speaker 3: and like you know, like.
Speaker 2: My kids have ever sen Scooby Doo. I actually want
Speaker 2: to think about it now, it's pretty funny.
Speaker 3: Well, they always it's good because they always bust it sure,
Speaker 3: you know, like at the end, it's always like it
Speaker 3: was mister Smith in a big costume, you know, or whatever. Right,
Speaker 3: So I think it's like I don't know that I've
Speaker 3: had to feeld really well.
Speaker 2: What would you say if one of the kids asked
Speaker 2: about a ghost biblically.
Speaker 3: Speaking, Well, I do think I mean biblically and angels
Speaker 3: who told them that Jesus wasn't in the tomb anymore,
Speaker 3: so they do exist. I would maybe frame it more
Speaker 3: like that than I think. Ghost is probably where it
Speaker 3: gets a little tricky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always say angels and spirits, so I know
Speaker 2: spirits gets a little touchy. But with the angels, because
Speaker 2: I always say, you know, with the light would flicker
Speaker 2: and the kids would I'm like, oh, it's just Grandpa
Speaker 2: Martin just saying, hey, you know, like sometimes the angels
Speaker 2: and he's angels and when when someone was always asked
Speaker 2: about death before and now Jason's asked too, So you know,
Speaker 2: we just talk about heaven and angels and makes it
Speaker 2: less scary. They've obviously talked about monsters but never mentioned ghosts.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think their imaginations, especially young, are so wild, so
Speaker 3: like any noise could turn into something too.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what kind of happened to us with Ramsey
Speaker 1: is like you know, with like the air in a house, Yes,
Speaker 1: a door will open. Another, well, that door will slam. Yes,
Speaker 1: so the door slammed, and then she's convinced that there's
Speaker 1: ghost in there. But that was like she's a little
Speaker 1: bit older than like young, you know, I feel like
Speaker 1: that's little so she's so we just talked through it.
Speaker 1: Literally is the air, you know, like very practical, but
Speaker 1: I've never had like yeah, besides that, I haven't had
Speaker 1: like ghosts.
Speaker 2: That was a really point to go what you said,
Speaker 2: just to go back to her biblical standpoint on that.
Speaker 2: You guys, I had something that happened to me when
Speaker 2: I was about six, and to this day I'm still
Speaker 2: trying to figure it out. It drives me, and this
Speaker 2: just made me think about it all over again. Tell
Speaker 2: me we were in the backyard, and I still I
Speaker 2: mean I probably asked my brother, I'd say two summers ago.
Speaker 2: I was like, please just tell me what you did
Speaker 2: that day. Please just tell me it was you, because
Speaker 2: to me, I'm still questioning what I saw. So, oh,
Speaker 2: tell us. So I was in my backyard playing with
Speaker 2: the back boys because they were, you know, neighbors behind us,
Speaker 2: and my mom was inside the house, but my brother
Speaker 2: was kind of in and out with his friends. Right,
Speaker 2: So we're playing, we're playing, I look up in my
Speaker 2: mom's window and I just see a skeleton like face
Speaker 2: and like body just but like like up to here,
Speaker 2: so like up to like chest ahead and then it
Speaker 2: like disappears. So I go running up like mom, Mom,
Speaker 2: like what is like what is this? Nothing? She's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm in the kitchen or whatever. My brother like he's
Speaker 2: all of a sudden outside, and I'm like, who was
Speaker 2: in the who was in who was in the window?
Speaker 2: Because I still see it like as a kid like
Speaker 2: bones bones? Who was it? But it wasn't like a
Speaker 2: mask like that was the thing. It looked real, And
Speaker 2: I just remember like to this day, being like this
Speaker 2: is so freaky. Who the hell was it? Who put
Speaker 2: on a mask or what? Like, what was it? Skeleton? Okay?
Speaker 3: Does the skeleton exist in your house somewhere? Like even
Speaker 3: as a Halloween decoration?
Speaker 2: Weird? My mom hated Halloween, hated and it was in
Speaker 2: the middle of summer. Weird. To this day, I still
Speaker 2: don't like it and it still freaks me out.
Speaker 3: And there's no part of you that thinks you imagine it,
Speaker 3: like you know, this isn't me gas light in your
Speaker 3: childhood trauma.
Speaker 2: I know, like I literally know what I saw, and
Speaker 2: that's not I've questioned it up until my adulthood what
Speaker 2: I saw.
Speaker 1: And that's not like what you hear, Like it's not
Speaker 1: common to hear someone saw a ghostpit as a skeleton.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I'm like, is there was there decorations,
Speaker 3: especially especially in my mom's room.
Speaker 2: Did you ever google? Have you ever googled?
Speaker 3: Like what it means, like the significance of seeing a skeleton?
Speaker 3: No want me to maybe it's like cool, like if
Speaker 3: you've ever it's never what you think, Like.
Speaker 2: I had a loose teeth, how I would just randomly
Speaker 2: see that it was clear as a day. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I know it's wild, and I don't believe me.
Speaker 1: I believe I'm just trying to think of what logic.
Speaker 1: I believe in my mind just goes to you saw it?
Speaker 1: What logically could have happened? Could someone have had a
Speaker 1: skeleton and gotten up there?
Speaker 2: That's the thing. I never saw it. Again, I never
Speaker 2: saw the I mean, I just feel like I would
Speaker 2: have seen it, Like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe the front of this definition, we're just gonna
Speaker 3: scoop pass.
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna need you to read the whole definition. No.
Speaker 3: Seeing a skeleton or the imagery of one often symbolizes death.
Speaker 3: This was a lot of life and death and the
Speaker 3: inevitability of transformation. Not bad, I like to I would
Speaker 3: rather thrust land here. It also can serve as a
Speaker 3: reminder to appreciate the present moment and the value of life.
Speaker 3: H So maybe those black boys just left a little
Speaker 3: timestamp the skeleton's there to say that's for real and
Speaker 3: we move forward.
Speaker 2: Does that feel like good closure? I feel like I
Speaker 2: need to reach out to one of the Bock boys
Speaker 2: and be like I should. I got Andrew, Josh and Brandon.
Speaker 2: Were they all with you at the dated, all three
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 1: Let's take it if you will.
Speaker 2: I thought one of those bock boys was somebody was
Speaker 2: messing with you. I hope so, yeah, were to have
Speaker 2: mercy anyways.
Speaker 3: However, we need to bring closure to that. We should
Speaker 3: do so, no closure, Let's return to our dearest reader,
Speaker 3: dearest gentle reader.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so sorry, reader.
Speaker 3: I do think what we have to do is frame
Speaker 3: it and foster the good in it and unless of
Speaker 3: the crazy.
Speaker 2: And that make it scary, just something when you remember
Speaker 2: as a kid so vividly, not you.
Speaker 1: This child is probably going to remember this so vividly
Speaker 1: and want to know who was talking.
Speaker 2: To her, and she wholeheardly believes. So let's just try
Speaker 2: to paint to not make her feel crazy and lean
Speaker 2: into whatever.
Speaker 1: We think it could.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it could have been.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if we were helpful at all,
Speaker 3: but I am. And we need to get a box
Speaker 3: on the line.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're good, Well see you next week. Bye bye,