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Speaker 1: Wind down with Janet Kramer, an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we got one walking in from therapy, we

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Speaker 2: got one walking in from home home work. I had

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Speaker 2: my appointment with Roman done done, done, Oh so much

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Speaker 2: to catch up on KB go oh boy, you would

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Speaker 2: lead with me the emotionally tender one.

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Speaker 3: I would just like to say, it is hard to

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Speaker 3: not have family.

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Speaker 2: Oh like here to help or just like any even

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Speaker 2: want to cry.

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Speaker 3: I just texted Janna this the other day because I

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Speaker 3: was like fucking tired of not being able to count

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Speaker 3: on people. It's really hard, and I know I'm not

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Speaker 3: the only one dealing with it, and so I just

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Speaker 3: feel like it's a moment of just real tearful honesty

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Speaker 3: that it just sucks to cycle breakers into the people

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Speaker 3: that I am positive for me forward, my family legacy changes,

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Speaker 3: in the dynamic of my family changes. But it is hard,

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Speaker 3: king work, and it's exhausting and it's lonely. And that's

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Speaker 3: what therapy was today. I just was like, I'm just.

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Speaker 2: I'm not lonely in my marriage.

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Speaker 3: Our marriage is actually really in like probably the best

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Speaker 3: place it's ever been, but like it's hard, you know,

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Speaker 3: like there's a weekend coming up where Preston is gone

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Speaker 3: doing what Preston does to provide for our family. And

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Speaker 3: I have to somehow be downtown Nashville at a two

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Speaker 3: day cheer competition and also be at a baseball game

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Speaker 3: thirty minutes away. And it's just me and I'll be

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Speaker 3: doing all that with a toddler on my hip. And

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Speaker 3: even if I can send someone or have someone take

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Speaker 3: legend to his game, that's not his family.

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Speaker 1: Sure, and you don't want you want to be both places?

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Speaker 3: Yes, is also I'd like to be in four places,

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Speaker 3: one of which is at home, allowing my toddler to

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Speaker 3: have a nap in her crib. That's a lot. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: I didn't plan on crying, but I'm just frustrated. It's

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Speaker 3: just it's just hard, and I don't like feeling stuck,

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Speaker 3: and I don't like feeling impossible. And certainly I can

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Speaker 3: pay people to come get my kids and take them.

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Speaker 3: But and even if I think this is the hardest

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Speaker 3: part from you right now, I don't have a strong

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Speaker 3: crying voice.

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Speaker 2: I think even if I did.

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Speaker 3: Recruit a grandparent, they don't have close relationships with those people,

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Speaker 3: and so it doesn't matter if they're family and air

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Speaker 3: quotes or not because my kids don't they don't know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear, I feel that on that.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I was going to not to disc

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it would sound like I was

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Speaker 1: discounting your feelings.

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Speaker 3: That is a flood of emotion really fast. Sorry, but

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Speaker 3: this is like I haven't been able to say it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't want it to sound like I'm discounting.

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Speaker 1: Just those are all valid. But I feel like for me,

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Speaker 1: even though I may have a parent that's there, that

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Speaker 1: doesn't fill that void. No, and that's unfortunate, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a person there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I have a brother who hasn't met my

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Speaker 3: third baby, and sometimes I am I protect that information brother,

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, And sometimes I protect that information, but like

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Speaker 3: part of me doing that is just perpetuating the cycle

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Speaker 3: of dysfunction. Like I don't need to protect him. Isn't

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Speaker 3: like two weekends ago. Like it's lonely, yeah, and I

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Speaker 3: have the best friends. Like God, I fully believe he

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Speaker 3: supplements any lack with just abundance in all the other areas,

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Speaker 3: But like that doesn't make me wish that there wasn't

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Speaker 3: a grandparent that could just that knows them and knows

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Speaker 3: And I think people go through this for a lot

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Speaker 3: of reasons, whether you're transplanted into an area you didn't

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Speaker 3: it just sucks, and I don't I do not like

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Speaker 3: the word impossible. I am highly allergic to it. So

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Speaker 3: I like to move pieces and make solutions and and

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Speaker 3: sometimes it's just hard. And that's what I just walked

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Speaker 2: I mean, I obviously relate to a lot of that.

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Speaker 2: Our family isn't here. Even when they are, it's yes,

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Speaker 2: not the most helpful piece, but that's you know how

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Speaker 2: I take him sometimes, but it's like all right if

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Speaker 2: not like we can just call because I know what

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Speaker 2: I I know who I will be as a grandparent. Correct,

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Speaker 2: I will be very close. I might not live in

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Speaker 2: But when there is let's just say spring season of

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Speaker 2: whatever sports, I'm going to make sure that I'm staying

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Speaker 2: there or to watch. I can't imagine my dad, mom,

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Speaker 2: I'm not seeing any either, Like then they don't. It

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Speaker 3: I think that's also tricky because then it's Preston that

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Speaker 3: reminds me it's not that they're just missing the kids.

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Speaker 3: They're also missing a daughter. Yeah, like I say, your

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Speaker 1: I was about to correct and say, my dad is

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Speaker 1: the single best at taking all the grandkids' schedules. Now

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of them, so he will miss things,

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Speaker 1: but he is at everything that he can, so I

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Speaker 1: will get you know, and my mom does her best

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Speaker 1: as well. I think my point was more that for me,

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Speaker 1: I'm still going to feel the same way that I

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Speaker 1: can't be there, regardless if my parents are there or

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Speaker 1: not sure, And I don't know if maybe they had

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Speaker 1: time though my mom is there. I don't. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm trying not to like sound insensitive, because yes,

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Speaker 2: You have family here, though, so it's about one.

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Speaker 1: Hundred percent exactly. It's like, and it's help whether they're

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Speaker 1: help and difference from you guys one percent. Uh, Like,

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Speaker 1: I can't even imagine, honestly not having that. Now that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's just a I.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it just felt lonely and I don't love it.

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Speaker 3: But it's also like there's like what can you.

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Speaker 1: Do about it? Well, it's also as the sports and

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Speaker 2: Same got she's got a game, Nolan's fault, and then

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Speaker 3: And here's the deal and I'm gonna have to like

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Speaker 3: drop him. I think I have the solution. Ish. My

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Speaker 3: prayer is that cheercomp is early and we go first,

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Speaker 3: I can still. I always feel like God does move

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Speaker 1: And even if Preston was here, that's going to help,

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Speaker 1: You're still going to wish you could go to both.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I wis you think a lot of

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Speaker 2: know that you're not alone and absolutely when you stress out,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of your kids are active, like that's a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Love only does two cheer comps a year,

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Speaker 1: Very few When they're like very few, it does feel very.

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Speaker 3: I don't love that feeling. Yeah, and I'm going to

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Speaker 1: First of all, let me know when this sheer comp is.

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Speaker 1: I want to try to come out an anti can.

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Speaker 2: Watch it because I still haven't seen her.

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Speaker 1: And then i'll also unless it's the same weekend as

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Speaker 3: Week in which we have another schedule yet overlapping.

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Speaker 2: So I started watching White Lotus the first the first season.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I I know, so I feel like

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Speaker 2: I do this with every show. I did it with Yellowstone,

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Speaker 2: you seen White Lotus? No, person, you gotta started? It's

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Speaker 2: so good? See how you explain? But it is so good.

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Speaker 2: But it's so good. But anyone's explanation didn't make me

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Speaker 1: I didn't know how to explain it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's just it's so good.

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Speaker 1: It is so good. I always the first one was

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Speaker 2: That's what I remember you saying, so I've already prepped.

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Speaker 2: Alan like, hey, I don't think season two is going

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Speaker 2: to be bad. It wasn't bad, Okay, I'm a I'm

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Speaker 2: excited to watch it. But the show I really want

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Speaker 2: to talk about is Adolescence. I haven't watched because it's

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Speaker 2: a it's a mom uh. It's a show that I

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Speaker 2: think all moms should watch and number one right now.

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Speaker 2: And Dad's yes, absolutely, and Dad's good point. It is

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Speaker 2: on Netflix. It's the number one TV show right now.

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Speaker 2: The last episode I was in just a puddle of tears.

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Speaker 2: It really makes you think about your parenting. But also

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Speaker 1: Yes, I've lived this as they've gotten older.

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Speaker 3: And this isn't me going you sit down right now.

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Speaker 2: I think the mom heard, and that's where I was like, crap,

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Speaker 2: and is she upset at me for saying But I'm

434
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Speaker 2: like this little kid who can't speak for himself because

435
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:46,880
Speaker 2: it was you.

436
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, is I don't think that's bad. It's like

437
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 3: if you're in there and you like, have you seen

438
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 3: the viral video of the high school basketball coach.

439
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Speaker 1: Yes, oh, like the new one pulling the girls. Oh

440
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 1: my gosh, and that other girl that stood up for

441
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 1: her is what stood out to me. That's what I'm

442
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 1: This coach pulls, sorry to change them, but this coach

443
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 1: pulls kind of in alignment because one of his player's ponytails,

444
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 1: pulls her hair. This other player sees it, literally grabs

445
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 1: her friend, pulls her away and starts like getting in

446
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,439
Speaker 1: the coach's face, like you know, I mean he got fired. Yeah,

447
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 1: obviously we're living in a world that that is what

448
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 1: I believe is probably one of single handling one of

449
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 1: the things that's ruining us the most. I mean again,

450
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Speaker 1: as long as you are respectful and you are kind, yes,

451
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 1: and you were just making sure that this other childe,

452
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 1: I see zero problem with it.

453
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not saying thinking like I'm sure at times, well,

454
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 2: I hope, I hope not, but I'm sure at times,

455
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 2: you know, I've like they don't the coach doesn't like them,

456
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,199
Speaker 2: you know, throwing the sand. They're an age boys, like,

457
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 2: let's not throw sand whatever.

458
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 3: Uh.

459
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Speaker 2: I'm sure at some point Jace has I hope not again,

460
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 2: because I've raised them to always keep your hands to yourself,

461
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 2: no pushing, no hitting like that is a big one

462
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 2: in our household, Like we just don't do it. We

463
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 2: can like wrestle, but like you're not hitting your sister,

464
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: you're not hitting other people, You're keeping your hands to

465
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 2: yourself at games, et cetera. And so I'm not saying

466
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 2: this this kid is bad or anything like that. I

467
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 2: just witnessed it, kept seeing it, and that's when it

468
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 2: was like my own stuff to say, hey, I don't

469
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 2: think you know, keep your hands and I do.

470
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Speaker 1: Still yeah, I do, still go back. It kind of depends.

471
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Speaker 1: I think that if it feels not so bad, I

472
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 1: might not, but if it felt major, I might. So

473
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Speaker 1: I do think it depends on the situation. But in

474
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Speaker 1: going back to like, I don't think any kids are bad.

475
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: I think all kids are good. They can make bad

476
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Speaker 1: choices and they can do bad things, and I would

477
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Speaker 1: hope that the parents are paying attention.

478
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

479
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Speaker 1: I think in that situation, if I did step in,

480
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Speaker 1: I did say something, and then the parent whatever, I

481
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: would just say, hey, you know, I just I saw this.

482
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,439
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if you saw. And if they get mad,

483
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: they get mad.

484
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Speaker 2: Well, because the same if that, if Jace was doing that,

485
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 2: I hope someone would say that, and I'd be like,

486
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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, Jay stop. If I looked away or

487
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 2: was getting right because I get a chasing Roman at

488
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 2: the last game, I would be like, buddy, stop, don't

489
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 2: you know I personally would want that, but I just

490
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 2: would want to bring up to your mom. I think

491
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Speaker 2: in world second I said, it.

492
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Speaker 1: Was like, I think we do live in a world

493
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: now though you almost have to have permission to correct,

494
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: you know, like I don't know behavior, but I don't

495
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: like that.

496
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Speaker 3: I think we just do a disservice to them to

497
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Speaker 3: let them continue to do things like that, and I

498
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 3: think it's better for them to know there are other

499
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Speaker 3: people watching. The reality is other people will be watching

500
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Speaker 3: as they get older too.

501
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Speaker 1: I do think though, as they get older, it gets

502
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Speaker 1: harder and you have to bite your tongue a lot more. Yeah,

503
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: you can't imagine as much as they get older, as

504
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: much as I have and I would like to, it

505
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: gets much harder to do.

506
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Speaker 2: Anybody else got a whine about it, I don't. I

507
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 2: kind of it was more just like I liked it.

508
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: I mean I then really whine about it was more

509
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 2: a question did I do the wrong thing? But now

510
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 2: I think it fits in there because it is like

511
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: I think there's probably a lot of parents facing similar Yeah,

512
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: and we've even done that with playdates.

513
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 3: Like there's certain kids. I'm like, I don't want to

514
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 3: not have that kid over anymore. But the fact that

515
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 3: it's he's destructive to property is not okay.

516
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: No, So we're just learning.

517
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 3: But we've gone through that a lot with love too,

518
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 3: Like we have a girl that isn't very kind and

519
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 3: I've said to love, I was like, you know, the

520
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 3: more that she gets away with it, it's a muscle

521
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 3: just like kindnesses, and so you don't like, I don't

522
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 3: want her to turn out, you know, not that this

523
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 3: single situation or us as a family, but like just

524
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 3: for her to learn that she could be nicer that

525
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 3: the way she said it hurts your feelings or whatever,

526
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 3: you know, a little sort of a community communication.

527
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Speaker 1: Yep, I agree.

528
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Speaker 2: New couple alert, Oh, Shalne Woodley and Emily and Paris

529
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 2: actor Lucas Bravo show off PDA in Paris. Gotta tell you,

530
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 2: I thought it looked like Aaron Rodgers whenever I was like, oh,

531
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: they got back together, cute, and I was like, oh wow, Gabrielle.

532
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: It is Gabrielle, but he's wearing Packer colors, so it.

533
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: Made me really little. Oh yeah, yeah, really threw us off.

534
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 2: I love both of them. Have said that, and now

535
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about another Emily. Emily and Paris

536
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: another good show to watch. I wasn't a Gabrielle fan

537
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: this last season.

538
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 3: I think it's because he's mushy.

539
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do. I love them separately, so I

540
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: think it's really cute.

541
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 3: I also love that they're in Paris when the PDA

542
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: was captured. Just felt very fitting. I agree, he's Lucas.

543
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 3: You guys, Benny Blanco fans, did I say his name right?

544
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 3: Benny Benny Blanco?

545
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: You're not? Would that be hyper cool? Because I feel

546
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 2: like Selena Gomez.

547
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Speaker 4: Oh okay, poor guy, We're like is he a singer creamer,

548
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 4: apparently he's got some new grooming uh done.

549
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: In a hilarious new video post to the music producers TikTok,

550
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: account Blanco can be seen getting his eyebrows plucked and

551
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: shaved as his actress and musician fiance Selena Gomez stands

552
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 2: in the background. So you know, he's getting his uh

553
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: his glow up by his girl. And I think there's

554
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: something wrong with it. Oh, I think that's cute. I

555
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: think no, as long as he's fine. Have you ever

556
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 2: suggested your husband to change something? Yes? Really?

557
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course, like what he was super spray

558
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 3: Tanny when I first met him, and I was like,

559
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 3: this cannot we have to change. But it wasn't spray tan,

560
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: so we have we're changing. The solution that was, Oh,

561
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: that's so funny.

562
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: That's funny.

563
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: I like that.

564
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 3: Anything else that wasn't even mean. I was just like, hey,

565
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, dudes, don't know. Sometimes my husband's like

566
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 3: fun to me though, like I really.

567
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Speaker 1: Just like I don't like, I mean, my husband has

568
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: not great style all the things. I just don't care.

569
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: That stuff doesn't really bother me. I have suggested like,

570
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 1: like I don't know hair stuff, but he has no hair,

571
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: so there's that.

572
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 2: I could never suggest anything to Alan like he because

573
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 2: I mean, he has very thick wrinkles on his forehead,

574
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: but that's also who he is and he's those forever

575
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: and I personally love them. And you know, we had

576
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: talked one time about something. He was doing one of

577
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 2: my little face things that I use. He's like, does

578
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 2: this actually work? And I was like, why are you

579
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 2: are you worried about the wrinkles. He's like knowing, He's like,

580
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: I would never do botox, but and he's like, but

581
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: you know, I'll try this little wand thing. So we

582
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: did it like once or whatever. But I would never say, like,

583
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 2: you should get botox.

584
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. They're comfortable then they're comfortable with

585
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: it's they're not confident.

586
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but I mean yeah, if he was over

587
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,239
Speaker 2: spray tanning, I would be like, like, off the spray. Well.

588
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 3: It was like there was a little bit of a

589
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: grand theft auto period Preston went through before I got

590
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 3: to him, and he was you know, he's a bachelor,

591
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: and I was like, hey, this is just what we

592
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 3: have to use instead. He's really fine.

593
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think any of us would do

594
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: if our husband's had a unibrow, would you make him

595
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 2: pluck it?

596
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would suggest it. I wouldn't make him, Yeah.

597
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: I would never say. But also, like you guys, it's like,

598
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 3: I'm at the age i'm going to have myself. I'm

599
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 3: at the age where I'm getting the hairs on the

600
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: change in chin, and I'm like, if y'all saw one,

601
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Speaker 3: I would hope as a friend, you'd be like, hey girl, yeah,

602
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 3: you know.

603
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 2: So that would be the helping out. Yeah, for sure, agreed. God,

604
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: I would never want him to call that out though,

605
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: that's what I say I would. I would just go sour.

606
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: I mean would I'm sure and I would have I

607
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: don't yeast him.

608
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't.

609
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 3: He'd be like, hey baby, it would be sweet. He's

610
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 3: just so kind about me, right, yeah, yeah, and I'm

611
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: kind about him.

612
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 2: I wasn't like this, you know.

613
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely wouldn't like it if if like,

614
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: you know, because we all know him, I got my

615
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: eyebrows done a while. If he came and was like, hey,

616
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: your eyebrows, like, I wouldn't like that. So I would

617
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: definitely be careful about how.

618
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: My big thing is stink, like if you're stinky deodorant

619
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, Like if he was a natural deodorant,

620
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: that would not work.

621
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: When that works, that's clean, okay. And it hasn't been

622
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: a game changer for me because throw me the secret.

623
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Speaker 3: I'm on testa Huster own and it's I it's a

624
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: different I hate it. I've never been secret. Mine's like,

625
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 3: I don't even know what I use. I'm not any

626
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 3: of the natural. I don't know whatever.

627
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: Herd is not natural, That's what I'm saying. Mine's even worse.

628
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: But I can't be honest. I just that's the one

629
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: thing I wouldn't be able to handle.

630
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: I wish they worked. If you've really found one, let

631
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: us know.

632
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: I really love it so far, and I'm like two

633
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: weeks in.

634
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Question for the girls, how do you handle your

635
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: young children when they make remarks about ghosts and hearing things.

636
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: For example, my daughter is almost four and told me

637
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: this morning that she heard someone from our garage calling

638
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: her name. It was five point thirty in the morning,

639
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: no one was out in the garage, but she was

640
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: very adamant about hearing it and wanting to do and

641
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: wanting to know who it was. She wasn't scared, just curious.

642
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: I'm wondering how you handle that conversation, especially from a

643
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: biblical standpoint. We are Christians and wholeheartedly believe in Jess.

644
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: This in our home. Thanks love listening to y'all every week.

645
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: Hey girl, it's a good question. That's a great question,

646
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: a really good question.

647
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: I'll never forget one time when Kayden young he said

648
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: something about someone upstairs and we were like, well, we're

649
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: never going upstairs again. But I've honestly never Yeah, I've

650
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: never really encountered this though, other than that, you know,

651
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: like say someone to say to speak. I mean, I

652
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: don't know. He was so little, I don't remember. I

653
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: remember we just like turned it. He was like a toddler,

654
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: so like we just like we still laugh about it,

655
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: but we didn't really have to have the conversation. It

656
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: never happened again. Yeah, Ramsey is currently kind of scared

657
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: and thinks that the other bedroom is haunted, so we

658
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: like talk through that sometimes. But I've never had that situation,

659
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: so I don't really know.

660
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: I had it with my dad right after my dad died,

661
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 3: Like literally moments after my dad died, I came out

662
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: of the bathroom. That's where I was melting. And I

663
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: came out to get to the kids and I can

664
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 3: only get to the doorway. I just didn't have enough,

665
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 3: like I was just sad. So I sat in the

666
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: doorway and the kids came over to me. I was

667
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 3: just loving Legend at the time in Preston. I mean,

668
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 3: obviously that's the only two kids I had at the time.

669
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: But we sat down in Legend was I don't even

670
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: know how old guys young, like three and a half four,

671
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 3: And he said, there's so many people here. And my

672
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: husband was like, yeah, well, we're all here, buddy, like

673
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: you know, me and love and Mama. And he said, no,

674
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 3: there's so many people here. And the man's here. And

675
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 3: he was like, who's the man, And he's like the

676
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: man he just came through the garage. He's right here

677
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 3: with us right now.

678
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

679
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, like I just I mean,

680
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 3: also not in a state to be feeling questions. But

681
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 3: I feel like when it's happened to us, it's felt

682
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: more like a visit than like a haunting. I sometimes

683
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 3: think that even if we filter well what kids are watching,

684
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: I think a lot of those things start to come through.

685
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: Like they have such crazy, wild imaginations, like great imaginations,

686
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 3: but like it can go the wrong way sometimes if

687
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: they've seen anything like Goooby Doo, even it is spooky

688
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 3: and like you know, like.

689
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: My kids have ever sen Scooby Doo. I actually want

690
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: to think about it now, it's pretty funny.

691
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: Well, they always it's good because they always bust it sure,

692
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 3: you know, like at the end, it's always like it

693
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: was mister Smith in a big costume, you know, or whatever. Right,

694
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: So I think it's like I don't know that I've

695
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: had to feeld really well.

696
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: What would you say if one of the kids asked

697
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: about a ghost biblically.

698
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: Speaking, Well, I do think I mean biblically and angels

699
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 3: who told them that Jesus wasn't in the tomb anymore,

700
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: so they do exist. I would maybe frame it more

701
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: like that than I think. Ghost is probably where it

702
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: gets a little tricky.

703
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always say angels and spirits, so I know

704
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: spirits gets a little touchy. But with the angels, because

705
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: I always say, you know, with the light would flicker

706
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: and the kids would I'm like, oh, it's just Grandpa

707
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: Martin just saying, hey, you know, like sometimes the angels

708
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: and he's angels and when when someone was always asked

709
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: about death before and now Jason's asked too, So you know,

710
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: we just talk about heaven and angels and makes it

711
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: less scary. They've obviously talked about monsters but never mentioned ghosts.

712
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

713
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: I think their imaginations, especially young, are so wild, so

714
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: like any noise could turn into something too.

715
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: Well, that's what kind of happened to us with Ramsey

716
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: is like you know, with like the air in a house, Yes,

717
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: a door will open. Another, well, that door will slam. Yes,

718
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: so the door slammed, and then she's convinced that there's

719
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: ghost in there. But that was like she's a little

720
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: bit older than like young, you know, I feel like

721
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: that's little so she's so we just talked through it.

722
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: Literally is the air, you know, like very practical, but

723
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: I've never had like yeah, besides that, I haven't had

724
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: like ghosts.

725
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: That was a really point to go what you said,

726
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: just to go back to her biblical standpoint on that.

727
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: You guys, I had something that happened to me when

728
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: I was about six, and to this day I'm still

729
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: trying to figure it out. It drives me, and this

730
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: just made me think about it all over again. Tell

731
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: me we were in the backyard, and I still I

732
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: mean I probably asked my brother, I'd say two summers ago.

733
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: I was like, please just tell me what you did

734
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: that day. Please just tell me it was you, because

735
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 2: to me, I'm still questioning what I saw. So, oh,

736
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: tell us. So I was in my backyard playing with

737
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: the back boys because they were, you know, neighbors behind us,

738
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: and my mom was inside the house, but my brother

739
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: was kind of in and out with his friends. Right,

740
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: So we're playing, we're playing, I look up in my

741
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: mom's window and I just see a skeleton like face

742
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: and like body just but like like up to here,

743
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: so like up to like chest ahead and then it

744
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: like disappears. So I go running up like mom, Mom,

745
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 2: like what is like what is this? Nothing? She's like, oh,

746
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 2: I'm in the kitchen or whatever. My brother like he's

747
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: all of a sudden outside, and I'm like, who was

748
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: in the who was in who was in the window?

749
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: Because I still see it like as a kid like

750
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: bones bones? Who was it? But it wasn't like a

751
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: mask like that was the thing. It looked real, And

752
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: I just remember like to this day, being like this

753
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: is so freaky. Who the hell was it? Who put

754
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: on a mask or what? Like, what was it? Skeleton? Okay?

755
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 3: Does the skeleton exist in your house somewhere? Like even

756
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: as a Halloween decoration?

757
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: Weird? My mom hated Halloween, hated and it was in

758
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: the middle of summer. Weird. To this day, I still

759
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 2: don't like it and it still freaks me out.

760
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 3: And there's no part of you that thinks you imagine it,

761
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: like you know, this isn't me gas light in your

762
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 3: childhood trauma.

763
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: I know, like I literally know what I saw, and

764
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: that's not I've questioned it up until my adulthood what

765
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: I saw.

766
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: And that's not like what you hear, Like it's not

767
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: common to hear someone saw a ghostpit as a skeleton.

768
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I'm like, is there was there decorations,

769
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: especially especially in my mom's room.

770
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: Did you ever google? Have you ever googled?

771
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: Like what it means, like the significance of seeing a skeleton?

772
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 3: No want me to maybe it's like cool, like if

773
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 3: you've ever it's never what you think, Like.

774
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: I had a loose teeth, how I would just randomly

775
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: see that it was clear as a day. Yeah, I

776
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: don't know. I know it's wild, and I don't believe me.

777
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 1: I believe I'm just trying to think of what logic.

778
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: I believe in my mind just goes to you saw it?

779
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: What logically could have happened? Could someone have had a

780
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: skeleton and gotten up there?

781
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 2: That's the thing. I never saw it. Again, I never

782
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 2: saw the I mean, I just feel like I would

783
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: have seen it, Like.

784
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe the front of this definition, we're just gonna

785
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 3: scoop pass.

786
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna need you to read the whole definition. No.

787
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: Seeing a skeleton or the imagery of one often symbolizes death.

788
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: This was a lot of life and death and the

789
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: inevitability of transformation. Not bad, I like to I would

790
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 3: rather thrust land here. It also can serve as a

791
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: reminder to appreciate the present moment and the value of life.

792
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 3: H So maybe those black boys just left a little

793
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 3: timestamp the skeleton's there to say that's for real and

794
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: we move forward.

795
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 2: Does that feel like good closure? I feel like I

796
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 2: need to reach out to one of the Bock boys

797
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: and be like I should. I got Andrew, Josh and Brandon.

798
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: Were they all with you at the dated, all three

799
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: of them.

800
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: Let's take it if you will.

801
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 2: I thought one of those bock boys was somebody was

802
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: messing with you. I hope so, yeah, were to have

803
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: mercy anyways.

804
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 3: However, we need to bring closure to that. We should

805
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: do so, no closure, Let's return to our dearest reader,

806
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: dearest gentle reader.

807
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so sorry, reader.

808
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: I do think what we have to do is frame

809
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 3: it and foster the good in it and unless of

810
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 3: the crazy.

811
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: And that make it scary, just something when you remember

812
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 2: as a kid so vividly, not you.

813
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: This child is probably going to remember this so vividly

814
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 1: and want to know who was talking.

815
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: To her, and she wholeheardly believes. So let's just try

816
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: to paint to not make her feel crazy and lean

817
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: into whatever.

818
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: We think it could.

819
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

820
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: I don't know what it could have been.

821
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if we were helpful at all,

822
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 3: but I am. And we need to get a box

823
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 3: on the line.

824
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: Okay, we're good, Well see you next week. Bye bye,