Speaker 1: It just runs in our family, like we have to
Speaker 1: take care of ourselves more than other people, and we've learned,
Speaker 1: I think throughout the years, to just embrace our body
Speaker 1: and embrace who we are. Mom would always wake us
Speaker 1: up super early, Let's go for a walk. She would
Speaker 1: write in my journals like this is what you should
Speaker 1: only eat. No breads, no carbs, only eggy. There's been
Speaker 1: many times when I thought if I was this size
Speaker 1: in the English market, I would be celebrated. Hello everyone,
Speaker 1: and happy Monday. I hope you're all having a great
Speaker 1: week so far. My week has been a little crazy
Speaker 1: with work, but I can't complain. I've been traveling and
Speaker 1: finishing up some projects and I can't wait to share
Speaker 1: some of them with you very very soon. Today's episode
Speaker 1: is going to be a lot of fun for me
Speaker 1: because I'm joined by what am I s We're gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about something women think about a lot. At least.
Speaker 1: I have our bodies that includes our shape, our weight,
Speaker 1: and what we're expected to look like. But we're not
Speaker 1: going to stop there. We're going to talk about accepting
Speaker 1: and embracing our bodies. So let's get into it. This
Speaker 1: is chick Ease and chill. For those of you who
Speaker 1: don't know who Jenk is, she's my younger sister. She
Speaker 1: is an entrepreneur and so much more. She actually just
Speaker 1: launched an athletic apparel brand called over Comfort, which I
Speaker 1: freaking love. The material, you guys, is a bomb, okay,
Speaker 1: And I know about work at close because I live
Speaker 1: in it. So she really got it down with the
Speaker 1: fabric and not only that, but the mission behind it
Speaker 1: I absolutely love, So you guys have to check it out.
Speaker 1: So as a woman, and especially a woman in the
Speaker 1: entertainment industry, wait is something I think about all the time.
Speaker 1: Now I'm in a place where I love my body
Speaker 1: most of the time, there are still days where I
Speaker 1: feel a little insecure, and I think it's more of
Speaker 1: the outside noise that causes that. But there was a
Speaker 1: time where I really was just not happy at all
Speaker 1: with my body. I don't know. I mean, I've gotten surgeries.
Speaker 1: I believe in plastic surgeries, guys like I'm a huge,
Speaker 1: Like it's your body, do what you want. I've got liposection,
Speaker 1: I've gotten breast augmentations and then reductions and then again,
Speaker 1: like it's been a struggle, and I think it has
Speaker 1: to do with the way that we were raised. My
Speaker 1: mom was very and I don't I don't blame her
Speaker 1: and I don't judge her for it because I know
Speaker 1: my grandpa was really hard on her and her sister
Speaker 1: about their weight. So my mom and our household weight
Speaker 1: was always a conversation, like it was just since I
Speaker 1: can remember, you guys, And there was a time where
Speaker 1: I'm like, I look at pictures now and I'm like, Damn,
Speaker 1: I looked good. I I was thinner, you know, I
Speaker 1: look good and I didn't think I was then. And
Speaker 1: it's crazy because my sister Jackie just posted on that
Speaker 1: the other day, like on her feed. We've all I
Speaker 1: think shared that, especially now that we're in the industry
Speaker 1: and you're expected quote unquote to look a certain way.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why didn't I appreciate my body then? I
Speaker 1: was freaking thirty pounds lighter and I still thought that
Speaker 1: I was big. But it's because of the stigma and
Speaker 1: the way that, again, we were raised and things that
Speaker 1: I think my sisters and I are trying to work through.
Speaker 1: And this is something my sister Jennica, which is here,
Speaker 1: she's here. Let's like, I'm excited I'm gonna be able
Speaker 1: to speak to herz Jenica, Welcome to the podcast. It's no.
Speaker 1: I definitely agree that it was the way we raised.
Speaker 1: I always talk about it, like with like my friends
Speaker 1: or my trainer or whatever. They're like, how are you
Speaker 1: so disciplined? Like I'm like, I've literally been like this
Speaker 1: my whole life. Mom would always like she'd wake us
Speaker 1: up super early, let's go for a walk. She would
Speaker 1: write in my journals like this is what you should
Speaker 1: only eat. No breads, no carbs, like only egg whites, grapefruit.
Speaker 1: It was really really hard. Like for me, it was okay,
Speaker 1: like I have to listen to my mom. And then
Speaker 1: as I got older and then Mom passed away, like
Speaker 1: it's like we had the reality show and then we
Speaker 1: were consistently in the spotlight. So it's like something it
Speaker 1: mattered to me like it was at that time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could say it was more about like what people
Speaker 1: thought of me or whatever. But then it got to
Speaker 1: a point where I just like I just want to
Speaker 1: feel good, Like I got so tired, like I would
Speaker 1: remember like crying with you, like in dressing rooms, like
Speaker 1: I'm so tired of trying on clothes, like I hate shopping,
Speaker 1: like I hate it, and then now is just kind
Speaker 1: of like now, thank God, like brands are more inclusive
Speaker 1: of like plus size and like okay, like this is
Speaker 1: the plus size community and this is what it is.
Speaker 1: And it's like I'd rather just own it and feel
Speaker 1: comfortable where I'm at because I feel good where I'm at.
Speaker 1: I know I could do more, but like I'm like
Speaker 1: happy with where I'm at, Like it goes support at
Speaker 1: least for me, where it's like all these people were
Speaker 1: talking so much mess about all of us, and it's
Speaker 1: just like they're always going to say something so like
Speaker 1: why I even care about it? But do you know though,
Speaker 1: that you have a lot to do with it. You
Speaker 1: have a lot to do with the fact that now
Speaker 1: brands are more accepting of curvy women that we you know,
Speaker 1: women like us that have to go out there and
Speaker 1: it's it's hard. I think a lot of people look
Speaker 1: at us like, well, like we get a lot of messages,
Speaker 1: at least I do. And I don't know about you, Jenica,
Speaker 1: but like messages of of you really inspire me, like
Speaker 1: thank you, like for embracing your body. Now I'm I'm
Speaker 1: embracing mine. But I still have tough days, you guys,
Speaker 1: And I think it's sadly what is out there on
Speaker 1: Instagram and what you're supposed to look like and this
Speaker 1: whole facade, because there's a lot of people that weren't
Speaker 1: born that way. And again I'm all about plastic surgery,
Speaker 1: do your thing, but it's like this kind of unrealistic
Speaker 1: expectation of how you should look. And for a long time,
Speaker 1: you guys, I knew I was always thicker. I was
Speaker 1: always a thick girl in class and all my friends
Speaker 1: were like when I was a size nine I think
Speaker 1: growing up or an eight, my friend was of course
Speaker 1: afore So I was always that thick girl, but I
Speaker 1: always felt pretty good. It wasn't really until I started
Speaker 1: it started like getting into my head, like really really bad.
Speaker 1: Was when I got and stepped into this industry and
Speaker 1: so many people have an opinion and it's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, you come out on TV. You should not
Speaker 1: be that fat, And it's like I started looking at
Speaker 1: myself different in the mirror. And that's where like therapy
Speaker 1: kicked in a little bit more, and really words of
Speaker 1: affirmation and speaking, it's really how we speak to ourselves
Speaker 1: in the mirror you guys. That makes a huge freaking difference.
Speaker 1: And this as we spoke about this with Liz Hernandez
Speaker 1: on one of the episodes, and it's the power of
Speaker 1: words and it starts with us. And yes, I've been
Speaker 1: tea since I was little. And I don't blame mom,
Speaker 1: to be honest, Like sometimes I would get upset and like, dude,
Speaker 1: this is the reason that I am the way that
Speaker 1: I am is because Mom was so tough on us.
Speaker 1: It's like she would grab my arms like, okay, if
Speaker 1: you eat that, it's going through it to your arms.
Speaker 1: Look at those guys, they're growing. And lat voice is
Speaker 1: always in my head, like every time I don't want
Speaker 1: to go to the gym, and like all I remember
Speaker 1: is like, oh, but you sweat so easily, you should
Speaker 1: just do it. Oh. This is like Mom would always
Speaker 1: be like I'm so jealous that you get to sweat
Speaker 1: so fast, princess, keep going and keep going. I'm like okay,
Speaker 1: And then I don't even think people know this, but
Speaker 1: like it's like cause a lot of trauma, like at
Speaker 1: least for me, like mom, Like I love obviously I
Speaker 1: love my mom, but like she made me get surgery
Speaker 1: when I was fifteen, like the gas strick and like
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So it goes hand in hand. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: like I'm doing this literally for my mom, and then
Speaker 1: now that she's not here, it's like, okay, it's either
Speaker 1: I have to do it for myself, like I have
Speaker 1: to feel good. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: she always had the best intention. She always wanted us
Speaker 1: to feel good and look good and she loved us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because she had suffered so much as well, which I
Speaker 1: understand her now exactly. Now I can say now, I'm like,
Speaker 1: growing up, it was so hard, and I just like
Speaker 1: even there was times when I'm like, oh, my goodness
Speaker 1: as an adult and I'd be like, why was she
Speaker 1: like this with us? And now I can sit back
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I get it, Like she didn't want
Speaker 1: us to suffer what she had suffered through, and she
Speaker 1: wanted us to feel good. Even her sister Jackie. She
Speaker 1: sent her to fat Camp and Jackie talks about that
Speaker 1: all the time, so it was something that was always
Speaker 1: on her mind. But because I think she didn't want
Speaker 1: us to suffer in this world that can be very critical,
Speaker 1: and I thank her now because I think because of
Speaker 1: her as well, Like I can withstand so much shit
Speaker 1: that is thrown at me, So I think her for sure,
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna lie. And that's why I think
Speaker 1: it's important. Now we're talking about this guy. So if
Speaker 1: women or parents out there that are listening to this podcast,
Speaker 1: the way you speak to your children is very important
Speaker 1: because it really takes a huge part in what they
Speaker 1: think of themselves and how they feel about themselves. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because it's it's it starts even
Speaker 1: in the womb, how you speak to your baby when
Speaker 1: when they're in your tummy and speaking words of affirmation
Speaker 1: and speaking words of life into them. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that my mom didn't. She didn't know any better. Again,
Speaker 1: she didn't know any better. She didn't think that it
Speaker 1: was going to affect us in this way. Even then,
Speaker 1: like at the end, like she would always, she still
Speaker 1: had curves and she was still happy about it, like
Speaker 1: she would sing in her songs or whatever. And I
Speaker 1: think ultimately she just wanted us to be healthy, start
Speaker 1: now before it gets harder later, because it was harder
Speaker 1: for her at her age to lose the weight than
Speaker 1: it is for now at my age. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: she would always say. In our household, it was we
Speaker 1: never had whole milk, it was non fat milk, egg whites,
Speaker 1: like Jennica said, we were not allowed to eat the yolk.
Speaker 1: So it's just a lot of little things like that.
Speaker 1: But I also I thank her because I think that
Speaker 1: it's it's the back of my mind working out and
Speaker 1: being healthy and you know what I mean, like because
Speaker 1: it just runs in our family. It's just that's what
Speaker 1: it is. Like we have to take care of ourselves
Speaker 1: more than other people. And we've learned, I think, throughout
Speaker 1: the years to just embrace our body and embrace who
Speaker 1: we are. And I love to see you, Jennica, because
Speaker 1: I know how much you suffered with with your weight
Speaker 1: from like I don't know, I think you held were
Speaker 1: you when you started like really realizing probably like well,
Speaker 1: Mom sent me to camp like when I was eleven
Speaker 1: or twelve. No, you went to suck up when you didn't, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did, And then you and your boyfriend went to
Speaker 1: me up because I didn't want to either, and you
Speaker 1: got mad at me because I didn't stay longer. Really
Speaker 1: should I thought it was just Jessica, I mean Jessica Jackie.
Speaker 1: It was in San Diego. M Yeah, okay, well yeah
Speaker 1: I went and then yeah, but now it's like becoming
Speaker 1: like I wish I would have done it then because
Speaker 1: the now, I mean what, who knows. But now I'm
Speaker 1: kind of just like I never really thought i'd be
Speaker 1: that person to like really see the gym as an outlet.
Speaker 1: But it's so relieving. I feel so good after. And
Speaker 1: it's such a good point that there's this quote that says,
Speaker 1: you never regret or work out, and you never do.
Speaker 1: You feel so good. It's gotten to the point for
Speaker 1: me where it's not just about losing weight to work out.
Speaker 1: It's for my mental health for sure. Like I feel
Speaker 1: more empowered, I feel like I have more energy. I
Speaker 1: feel like I accomplished so many things that day once
Speaker 1: I work out. For sure, Right, if I work out,
Speaker 1: I'm good for the rest of the day. Like I
Speaker 1: feel like I did what I needed to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So tell a little bit about camp. Now that we
Speaker 1: got there and I had forgot, how was what was camp? Like? Oh?
Speaker 1: That was horrible. It was not traumatizing, but I remember
Speaker 1: being in like the dorm rooms and like they would
Speaker 1: give you one little pack of gummy bears, those little
Speaker 1: snack packs for kids, and the girls would save them.
Speaker 1: They would put them in their drawers and save them
Speaker 1: because apparently you would only get so many here and
Speaker 1: then so they would eat them in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night. Once Kurfey was up, you couldn't eat anymore,
Speaker 1: so all these girls would put them away and then
Speaker 1: they would eat them, and then like running around the track,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, oh no, like I need
Speaker 1: to go home, like I just can't, Like I can't,
Speaker 1: I can't be here and I don't. I'm not a
Speaker 1: very social person, like and being around people just gives
Speaker 1: me a lot of anxiety. So I just like in that,
Speaker 1: in that little space and bubble, I just felt like,
Speaker 1: oh no, I need to go home. I need to
Speaker 1: just I'll figure it out. I'll tell my mom, like
Speaker 1: I'll go work out, Like I just can't be here.
Speaker 1: I can't do this. How long were you there for?
Speaker 1: I was there like three days. I was supposed to
Speaker 1: be there for like two or three weeks. Oh my goodness, Jennica,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I was just listening to a mom.
Speaker 1: But but anyways, okay, So Jennica, like I said earlier,
Speaker 1: she was very very like a very shy, introvert type
Speaker 1: of girl. Now I love to see her blossom like
Speaker 1: she really like I see her on her posts and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, do Jennica is hot? Is fuck? Like
Speaker 1: she is beautiful, She's got going on, Like I was
Speaker 1: telling her the other day, I'm like, dude, this girl
Speaker 1: is working out every single day. Like I've seen the
Speaker 1: transformation and how much she has lost on her own.
Speaker 1: And I want to tell you, Jennica that I'm very
Speaker 1: proud of you. I know that it probably hasn't been
Speaker 1: an easy process, right, Yeah, no, I think you're you know,
Speaker 1: because like you the first person I so, I'm just like, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm so over this crap. I'm so over not saying
Speaker 1: the difference. I'm so over and not really feeling good
Speaker 1: because people are still telling me all these things like
Speaker 1: I could be as confident as I want to be,
Speaker 1: and like little comments like really get to me. So
Speaker 1: like yeah, like I have people like can comment back
Speaker 1: for me because if not, like it'll mess on my
Speaker 1: day or like I just don't want to deal with
Speaker 1: it because I feel so good in confident. I worked
Speaker 1: so hard to get to where I'm at now, I
Speaker 1: don't need it, and those people generally don't really matter.
Speaker 1: Are those comments though, that you receive, Are they mostly
Speaker 1: about your body? Yeah, they're they're mainly about my body,
Speaker 1: or like, oh, you have all this money, why don't
Speaker 1: you just get surgery? Oh my god. A lot of
Speaker 1: them are very encouraging, like when I post my workout videos,
Speaker 1: like I literally pray. I'm like, you know what, like
Speaker 1: I just hope that it inspire someone, and I get
Speaker 1: comments like oh, good job, good job job, which is
Speaker 1: good ultimately, thank God. But for me, it's like I've
Speaker 1: learned to like keep social media away so it doesn't
Speaker 1: affect my mind because I think that's what's the most hurtful.
Speaker 1: And then I just get compared to you in Jackie
Speaker 1: a lot, so I'm just like, really, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: what do you mean, like how you guys are skinny,
Speaker 1: or like, oh my god, like you don't even look
Speaker 1: like them, or this isn't that. So I'm just like,
Speaker 1: you know what I swear. I know I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: People on social media can be so mean, but I've
Speaker 1: learned that it's like those people aren't busy enough, those
Speaker 1: people aren't successful enough, those people aren't even happy with themselves,
Speaker 1: because if they were, they wouldn't be there trying to
Speaker 1: hurt someone's feelings. Trying like busy people that are successful
Speaker 1: and happy don't have time to sit there and talk
Speaker 1: ship on social media. Like that is so lame and
Speaker 1: whack to me, guys, if you are one of those
Speaker 1: people listening to my podcast, I want you guys to know,
Speaker 1: if you sit there and criticize people on social media
Speaker 1: behind a fucking telephone, you are whacked as fuck. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I just need to tell you it is so fucking
Speaker 1: unattractive that I'd rather someone come to my face tell
Speaker 1: me you know what I think this so I can
Speaker 1: tell you something back. But it sucks because there are
Speaker 1: people that love us on social media. No, and like
Speaker 1: we meet the people in person and they're so sweet,
Speaker 1: like like everybody in person is so much more nicer,
Speaker 1: Like they'll come up when we are so pretty, like
Speaker 1: you've really inspired me to go to the gym and
Speaker 1: like to me, like I don't know why, but I'm
Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, thank you. Like they'll tell
Speaker 1: me thank you, and I'm like, no, thank you, Like
Speaker 1: that really helped me today that I'm really happy, like
Speaker 1: keep going or whatever. So those things are like important
Speaker 1: to me and like where I feel like, Okay, it's
Speaker 1: worth it. Exactly, it's worth it, and that's what we
Speaker 1: have to focus on. And I think, do you you
Speaker 1: have more positive comments to negative ones? Right? I'm sure, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think we've learned to just accept that it
Speaker 1: being in this there's always going to be that ten
Speaker 1: percent that they're going to have an opinion and it's
Speaker 1: probably a negative one and they're not gonna like you
Speaker 1: no matter what you do. Before, I would love going
Speaker 1: on social media after posting something and then replying to
Speaker 1: people because I just I love having that direct contact.
Speaker 1: But then I had to stop doing that because you
Speaker 1: come across some negative comments and it sucks because I
Speaker 1: felt like I was intending to the people that love
Speaker 1: me and that I love as much, but because I
Speaker 1: was also protecting my heart in my mind and saying
Speaker 1: I don't want to see negative comments because I'm not
Speaker 1: in the right place emotionally, because sometimes those comments are
Speaker 1: are harsh, like it's like like you're on a diet,
Speaker 1: like they're fucked up. And when you're around p M messing,
Speaker 1: when you're a PM messing like it, it can really
Speaker 1: get to you. But I've learned to just like, no, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not the first, I'm not the last. I know
Speaker 1: this is a part of it. And it's like really
Speaker 1: giving yourself therapy every single day, and like Jenica said,
Speaker 1: focusing on those people that really get it and that
Speaker 1: we're inspiring and that keep us motivated and keep us going.
Speaker 1: And this is why it's so good you guys to
Speaker 1: take pictures of your progress. If you don't want to
Speaker 1: wear yourself, I get it, But if you take pictures,
Speaker 1: like Jenica just showed me the other day, She's like,
Speaker 1: do you see a difference? And I swear to you,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm so freaking proud. She wakes up,
Speaker 1: she goes to the gym for an hour, She works hard.
Speaker 1: She's super disciplined. That's something that my mom. She taught
Speaker 1: us to be very disciplined to finish what we start.
Speaker 1: And I thank her for that. Jennica like, I give you, like, honestly,
Speaker 1: a round of applause, girl, Like you've have been killing
Speaker 1: it in the gym. Girl, you look good. I don't
Speaker 1: know how much you've lost, but how much have you lost?
Speaker 1: I don't own myself. Okay, see, yeah, but I'm glad
Speaker 1: you took those pictures because I'm sure you could tell
Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, but I don't own myself because like literally,
Speaker 1: like how I would say, like the number on the
Speaker 1: scow really doesn't matter. It just doesn't because I could
Speaker 1: weigh the same, but I have more muscle instead of fat.
Speaker 1: The weight it's not gonna measure my inches, so it's
Speaker 1: just like there's no point. Yeah, how to do that.
Speaker 1: My therapist told me to do that. They're like there's
Speaker 1: throwed away, like you don't need it, and it made
Speaker 1: you feel better. Yeah, some people believe in like weighing yourself.
Speaker 1: I don't like you know what I mean, It's not
Speaker 1: my thing. But pictures are a good thing to have, guys.
Speaker 1: People Actually, j I have a question for you. Do
Speaker 1: you think that Latina's face added pressure to look sexy?
Speaker 1: Small ways, big breast and but like do you feel
Speaker 1: that I feel like it's kind of generalized. Is I
Speaker 1: don't feel like it's just for Latinas. Maybe more because
Speaker 1: Latinas have natural curves, they're thicker, We're thicker in that sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think everybody always has that pressure because it's
Speaker 1: what what Kim Kay has. She has thick thighs, a
Speaker 1: big gass, and like a small waist. That's the ideal
Speaker 1: body everyone he wants to have because she is like
Speaker 1: the social media idol. Yeah, like you know, it's a
Speaker 1: molded body and I'm a for it girl that you
Speaker 1: look great, you know, but as latinas you know, we
Speaker 1: have those and it's crazy because it's like you have
Speaker 1: this big button, these big guys and it's just and
Speaker 1: then we we don't want it, like some people are like,
Speaker 1: well people want that, Like there are people that would
Speaker 1: die for that body type, and I get it, you know,
Speaker 1: but I do feel like it's harder for us. But
Speaker 1: it's also what we eat, like what we were raised
Speaker 1: with two like all we were given and beads and
Speaker 1: all those stuff. It's just exactly so it's like it's
Speaker 1: harder for us to lose the weight and to get
Speaker 1: that body because we eat all this stuff, which I'm
Speaker 1: not mad about. I'm happy with the freaking culture that
Speaker 1: I have, Like I know, I'm so happy. I feel
Speaker 1: like we have the best food and like I don't know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I absolutely I agree, you know, to answer that question,
Speaker 1: I asked you. I do feel like they make it
Speaker 1: a little harder. I feel like you know that they
Speaker 1: want you to be who has a crazy, freaking amazing body,
Speaker 1: and it's just that that's what you should look like
Speaker 1: if you're on television, which I feel like mom made
Speaker 1: the difference for people though, Oh for sure, like she
Speaker 1: did honestly break barriers in that and like, thank goodness
Speaker 1: because even in her song, she's like, I don't have
Speaker 1: j Lo's body, I don't have Yrka's or whatever, and
Speaker 1: it's like, uh not Malvina. Yeah. For for those of
Speaker 1: you that don't know that song, I'm sure you have.
Speaker 1: If you haven't heard, it's my mom's song. It's called
Speaker 1: that Malivina. It's a really good song. It's in Spanish.
Speaker 1: Listen to it. It's really like a feel good like
Speaker 1: I'm cute no matter what type of song. No even
Speaker 1: you though, like you like in your music videos, like
Speaker 1: I thought it was so cool, like now that you're
Speaker 1: showing your legs and everybody needs to know that you
Speaker 1: would not and nobody notices these things. But chickens would
Speaker 1: never show her arms or her legs or nothing until
Speaker 1: like the last music video. Oh my god, she just
Speaker 1: did everything like it looks so good like and I
Speaker 1: just feel like it's just making a difference for everybody.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jenny. Yeah, it was a thing for me.
Speaker 1: I don't wear shorts. And in that music video, in
Speaker 1: a music video where with cameras you look bigger, I said,
Speaker 1: if it, I'm gonna do it. This is what I
Speaker 1: want to do. This is what I envisioned. And if
Speaker 1: there are people that don't like it, well whatever, I
Speaker 1: love it even on vacation, Like it's so funny even
Speaker 1: when our vacation, like she won't wear a bathing she'll
Speaker 1: wear bathing suit, but sure were like the longest cover
Speaker 1: up or like her rope or biker shorts or whatever,
Speaker 1: and it's like even then biker shorts are stretched. So
Speaker 1: but you've got you've gotten better and you've looked good.
Speaker 1: But see when I went to to Loom last year, right,
Speaker 1: and I wore a two piece and I was just
Speaker 1: living my best life on the beach and they freaking
Speaker 1: got me in that freaking red bikini. But like, the
Speaker 1: crazy thing is they get you in the worst. You're
Speaker 1: just like moving and they're like they get you in
Speaker 1: the worst pictures and I'm like, it's horrible. There's zoomed in.
Speaker 1: I was like, why why is our media like that? Like, dude,
Speaker 1: my mind be like tough skin, because if you let them,
Speaker 1: they will eat you out. Let me tell you, Jessica,
Speaker 1: how often do you work out five to six times
Speaker 1: a week, four to six, four to six defending, and
Speaker 1: how are you eating? So before I used to do keto,
Speaker 1: which helped, but it's not ideal for me the way
Speaker 1: I'd like to eat. So I kind of stopped and
Speaker 1: I leaned more into like clean eating and if I
Speaker 1: want something, I eat it in moderation. So I have
Speaker 1: a very very high protein diet. Nice. Yeah, see, I
Speaker 1: a keto. I like, I'm trying to lay off the cheese.
Speaker 1: You know that it's like too much cheese. But honestly,
Speaker 1: I think guys, it's very important to know what works
Speaker 1: for your body. Like literally everybody is different. Okay, listen
Speaker 1: to that again. Everybody not just everybody, everybody is different,
Speaker 1: so you have to know what works for you. Another
Speaker 1: thing that works for me is intermittent fasting. That has
Speaker 1: helped me so much. I eat from twelve to eight
Speaker 1: pm and I fast for sixteen hours and that really
Speaker 1: helps with my metabolism, with my mental clarity, and like,
Speaker 1: if you guys haven't heard about it, go like research it.
Speaker 1: I really love it. And I work out I don't
Speaker 1: know anywhere. I try to do five times a week, um,
Speaker 1: five times a week, if not at least three. And
Speaker 1: I like to do a lot of cardio. I haven't
Speaker 1: been doing a lot of weeks lately because I don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of room here and my trainer and
Speaker 1: I haven't been working out, But cardio helps me so much. So, Jenica,
Speaker 1: let's talk about music a little bit. So what songs
Speaker 1: do you listen to that make you feel like a
Speaker 1: ad bit, especially like when you're working out, Like what
Speaker 1: do you like to listen to Bad Bunny? Yeah, she's
Speaker 1: in love with Bad Bunny, you guys, she wants to
Speaker 1: sit on his face. No, it was like his No,
Speaker 1: his songs are so like you know what, Like he's
Speaker 1: like a fucking type of guy. So I'm just like, dude,
Speaker 1: like really get into it. Even if it's like like
Speaker 1: you really listen to his lyrics, he's just like you
Speaker 1: know what, Like there's no time to wait. It's just
Speaker 1: fucking with your life, So like just do it. I
Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, because for me in music is a
Speaker 1: huge part of my life. Like I feel like I
Speaker 1: could be sad and I put on a song and
Speaker 1: it just reminds me of like hell, hell yeah, I
Speaker 1: know who I am. I know what I could do,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean? Do you feel like
Speaker 1: your weight or the issues that you had with your weight, like,
Speaker 1: have they played a huge part in maybe you're like
Speaker 1: depression and anxiety? Like can we talk about that a
Speaker 1: little bit? It definitely has. Like if I'm not happy
Speaker 1: with my weight, I'm just not happy in general, which
Speaker 1: I think is super important. Why because well, at that time,
Speaker 1: like when I was in a really really pressed I'm
Speaker 1: really anxious, like I wasn't seeing results. I've struggled with
Speaker 1: it my whole life. I should have listened to my
Speaker 1: mom before. Like all that stuff runs through my head
Speaker 1: and it's just difficult. It's like, dude, like if I
Speaker 1: don't see a difference, then what am I doing? Like
Speaker 1: why am I like starving myself? Or why am I
Speaker 1: working out so hard? Or you know, And it just
Speaker 1: put me in a really dark place where I'm just
Speaker 1: like I've kind of started letting go and I kind
Speaker 1: of like you know what, Like whether I see a
Speaker 1: difference or not, I'm getting healthier, I'm stronger, I'm stronger mentally,
Speaker 1: Like my working out has definitely it's an outlet for me.
Speaker 1: If I don't go, like I just feel like, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I'm stricter on myself that day,
Speaker 1: which isn't healthy. So I've learned to just like balance
Speaker 1: myself out and I'm still learning like the balance between
Speaker 1: like eating a cheap mail and like not feeling guilty
Speaker 1: for it or not working out and doing something else.
Speaker 1: So it's definitely been an outlet for me, and it's
Speaker 1: helped me mentally a lot. And I think everybody has
Speaker 1: noticed that as well, Like for me, it's a part already,
Speaker 1: Like if I don't work out during the week and
Speaker 1: I don't have therapy, it's not going to be a
Speaker 1: good week. So you've you've come to the conclusion of
Speaker 1: working out is part of my mental health and it's
Speaker 1: just a part of my life for the rest of
Speaker 1: my life. And therapy as well, right to help with everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think that that's also the good that you're
Speaker 1: talking about because you're so young, you're twenty four, right, Jenica,
Speaker 1: She's gonna be twenty this year, so she's twenty four,
Speaker 1: and the fact that she is doing this at such
Speaker 1: a young age, I hope that she can be an
Speaker 1: of inspiration to all of you that are listening that
Speaker 1: either you're younger or older than her or her same age.
Speaker 1: It's part of just knowing like what works for you
Speaker 1: and therapy. You guys, I can't say it enough. I
Speaker 1: always talk about it, but therapy so important, especially in
Speaker 1: the world that we live in today with social media
Speaker 1: and all these standards, and like, it's just it's very
Speaker 1: very important, and I would highly recommend it. And I
Speaker 1: think that that's great that you're still doing your therapy, Jenny.
Speaker 1: As far as that relationship, because you haven't been in
Speaker 1: a relationship for a long time, has that been my choice?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you want to be in a
Speaker 1: good place mentally and emotionally or you just haven't found
Speaker 1: the right person? Like, what do you think has played
Speaker 1: a role in that that you've you've been single for
Speaker 1: what like two years now? Basically yeah, but fun. But
Speaker 1: it's like I've made the choice of being single because
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't have time to waste anymore.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying like the next person I need,
Speaker 1: I need to marry. No, I feel like I have
Speaker 1: high expectations, Like I think I'm pretty cool and like
Speaker 1: I'm pretty disciplined, and I know what I want in
Speaker 1: my life. So it's like you have to kind of
Speaker 1: be on the same level as me, and if not more,
Speaker 1: because I don't have time to teach you how to
Speaker 1: do all of this or teach you how to like
Speaker 1: take care of someone like I don't have that time,
Speaker 1: and and and part of it could be my body
Speaker 1: because I have these two guy friends that go to
Speaker 1: the gym, and all they talk about are the girls
Speaker 1: at the gym and like how they're skinny and how
Speaker 1: they have a fat ass. And I'm like, is that
Speaker 1: really all that matters to you? Like I'm being like,
Speaker 1: I'm being serious, Like do you guys just go to
Speaker 1: the gym because for them it boosts their ego, like
Speaker 1: it boosts them to work out harder at the gym.
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you getty serious? Parts of that? When
Speaker 1: I hear it from my friends, I'm like, that's not cool,
Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter to me, Like I know, the
Speaker 1: next person I need isn't gonna worry about my body
Speaker 1: or isn't going to worry about what I eat or whatever. Like,
Speaker 1: So now that I see guys like it does put
Speaker 1: a hold on what I I have to train my brain.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, not all guys are gonna be like
Speaker 1: these guy friends. And I've told them, I'm like, you
Speaker 1: guys are like kind of dicks for like doing that.
Speaker 1: And I've heard personal conversations that they've had about girls.
Speaker 1: I'm like, and I've told them, and I call them
Speaker 1: out on them, like, you guys shouldn't talk about girls
Speaker 1: like that. Don't be a jerk, Like every girl is beautiful,
Speaker 1: Like you don't know what they're struggling with. What if
Speaker 1: they can't or oh, this girl has such a flat ass.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, what if she can't get a fucking ass?
Speaker 1: Which shouldn't matter. So I mean, ultimately, like, if I'm
Speaker 1: not a relationship, it's because I'm choosing not to be
Speaker 1: and I'm and I'm choosing to wait and be smart
Speaker 1: with my decisions because I generally don't have any more
Speaker 1: time to waste, And like, if you're not gonna like
Speaker 1: me for me, then don't come out here. Like, don't
Speaker 1: don't do it, you guys, A round of applause, standing
Speaker 1: ovation for Jennica, because it's admirable that you're so young,
Speaker 1: and I think it has to do with you are
Speaker 1: the youngest sister and she has seen the mistakes that
Speaker 1: Jackie and I have made. I'm so freaking proud of her.
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you, Jenica, because you're so smart,
Speaker 1: so independent, and it's just like, dude, like sometimes I
Speaker 1: swear to you. I call Jenica. Jenica's my best friend,
Speaker 1: and I call her and I'm like, this is what's
Speaker 1: going on, And the advice that she gives me is
Speaker 1: fucking crazy. Like the thing is that, like I can
Speaker 1: give someone a lot of really good advice, like I'm good,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I can stand outside the situation
Speaker 1: and give you some bombss advice. But when you're in it,
Speaker 1: it's hard for you to see things. You know. So
Speaker 1: I call Jennica and I'm like, in, Jenica straight up,
Speaker 1: and she's going to tell you how it is and
Speaker 1: look at her like I just I love the fact
Speaker 1: that she is choosing herself right now. She is taking
Speaker 1: that space because she was in a very in a
Speaker 1: long term relationship. And I think she's done well with
Speaker 1: saying I'm going to take this time and space to
Speaker 1: take care of myself, to take care of my body,
Speaker 1: my mind, body and soul. And I don't think we're
Speaker 1: ever going to be fully You can't be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm fully ready, yeah, and I'm ready to be in
Speaker 1: a relationship, like, but you gotta be more ready than
Speaker 1: not like where you're like, I'm good, like I'm good
Speaker 1: with who I am, with what I have to offer
Speaker 1: and what I'm going to accept and not accept in
Speaker 1: a relationship. And I think that that's a fucking beautiful thing, Jessica.
Speaker 1: And damn my god, good I did good raising this
Speaker 1: little groannut. So going back to like the industry, there's
Speaker 1: been many times when I thought if I was this
Speaker 1: size in the English market, I would be celebrated like
Speaker 1: a Lizzo like Adele was. Now she's thinner. It's like
Speaker 1: more accepted in the English market it's in the Spanish.
Speaker 1: And that's just the truth. It's almost they're very, very judgmental.
Speaker 1: And I've been told a lot like oh, you have
Speaker 1: such a pretty phase, so when are you gonna lose weight?
Speaker 1: I mean, straight up, like I remember being in an
Speaker 1: interview with Don Francisco and he told me, like on
Speaker 1: the break, he's like, and I had just lost I
Speaker 1: think like fifteen pounds, and it's something that I've always
Speaker 1: been up and down with my way, always like I
Speaker 1: feel like I take care of myself more than the
Speaker 1: normal person, and it's always just been more difficult for
Speaker 1: me to just drop as much weight as like the
Speaker 1: average person, you know. And I've gone to like a
Speaker 1: hormone therapy, like try to like figure out my thyroid situation,
Speaker 1: because there's a thro situation in our family, and it
Speaker 1: really can affect you because it's like I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm that bad, but for you, I am. And I
Speaker 1: do think that if I was I don't know, like
Speaker 1: forty pounds lighter, maybe I would probably have more oppert tunities.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but I do think that I
Speaker 1: can't complain too much as plus size because when I
Speaker 1: started becoming an influencer, I wanted to I put it
Speaker 1: on like my goal is like, Okay, I want to
Speaker 1: be a model for this brand, this brand, and this brand,
Speaker 1: and I will think about them like okay, like they've
Speaker 1: included plus size women, which is obviously a plus which
Speaker 1: is amazing, but they don't include a woman in the
Speaker 1: Latin community like they'll do African American, which is awesome.
Speaker 1: Like I'm happy at least the plus size community is
Speaker 1: being included. But when it comes to Latinos in our world,
Speaker 1: like say if we were going to Mexico, like you
Speaker 1: don't see like people on billboards for a plus size
Speaker 1: brand or whatever, because the way that Latinos are raised
Speaker 1: were to be like you have to be super strict
Speaker 1: and super harsh on yourself. Like once you go to Mexico,
Speaker 1: once you cross the border and t J, all you
Speaker 1: see is the doctors or like there's like there's one
Speaker 1: that's like if you're a beast, called this number or whatever,
Speaker 1: and it's like it is harder in our community, like
Speaker 1: to be recognized or to be like honored for our
Speaker 1: bodies because it's not the normal or how these old
Speaker 1: generations saw it. Yeah, because there are women that I've
Speaker 1: been around and I won't say their names, that are
Speaker 1: like way older than I am, and they have like
Speaker 1: amazing bodies, and I just I guess I'm just I
Speaker 1: refuse to live unhappy, Like I like to enjoy my
Speaker 1: food and enjoy life. So when we've gone to these
Speaker 1: luncheons and I'm with other artists and they see me
Speaker 1: eat a piece of bread, it's kind of like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I can't believe you eat that, like kind
Speaker 1: of like no wonder you are the way you are.
Speaker 1: Like they won't even touch, not even a tiny bit,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, are you really happy? Like like you
Speaker 1: gotta like give yourself some room to have fun, you know.
Speaker 1: And I've been around it, and it's like sometimes like
Speaker 1: if I would have allowed it, it could be very,
Speaker 1: very traumatizing. But I just constantly tell myself, I know
Speaker 1: who I am. I don't have to be the skinny
Speaker 1: girl to be talented to do what I do on stage.
Speaker 1: Like it's just it's literally telling myself this every single
Speaker 1: day and telling myself that I am loved. And I
Speaker 1: think it's hard for me because I'm not like skinny,
Speaker 1: but I'm not placise, So it's like I feel like
Speaker 1: it's like a little bit like hard, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: fuck it. We gotta love ourselves, ladies. We've gotta love ourselves.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be someone out there for us that's gonna
Speaker 1: love us for who we are what we have to
Speaker 1: offer in every single way. I think we have to
Speaker 1: just stop like looking at these people on social media
Speaker 1: as the example of what we should look like. And yes,
Speaker 1: like there's always for improvement on the outside, and it's
Speaker 1: taking a step every single day towards that, but not
Speaker 1: becoming obsessed with it, because when you become obsessed with it,
Speaker 1: like there's no way that you can be happy. Like,
Speaker 1: you have to find some balance in all of it.
Speaker 1: I'm a huge believer in Monday through Friday, watch what
Speaker 1: you eat, do your best to just give it your all,
Speaker 1: be disciplined, be consist stint, and on the weekends, live
Speaker 1: your fucking life. It's all balanced, Like you can't like
Speaker 1: live your life just oh my god, like super obsessed.
Speaker 1: Like it's just people always like, oh my god, you
Speaker 1: because they criticize you too much. You're always happy, well
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I want to be happy, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do the things that make me happy. So that's
Speaker 1: finding the balance in your life, you guys. And especially
Speaker 1: when it comes to wait because believe me, we know
Speaker 1: what it's like and how hard it can be and
Speaker 1: how cruel people can be, but we still know we's
Speaker 1: some badass bitches like Jessica has her overcomfort. Tell us
Speaker 1: about overcomfort, girl, I'm so proud of you. Well. Overcomfort
Speaker 1: is basically I started out with athletical error because I
Speaker 1: would go to work out and I would only find
Speaker 1: workout closed at Target. And Target has good quality. But
Speaker 1: after a while it rips, it gets too stretchy, or
Speaker 1: it just doesn't work out. So I use the example
Speaker 1: of like I would hate going to shop at stores
Speaker 1: and I would cry because they never had my size
Speaker 1: or the size that they had just didn't work out.
Speaker 1: Like I just didn't feel good. It would be a
Speaker 1: two X when it's really like an extra large. So
Speaker 1: I was just like, you know what, Like I want
Speaker 1: to make something that's accessible, that's affordable for people to
Speaker 1: go ahead and just shop and feel confident and comfortable in.
Speaker 1: And like I started out with the Feeling Good collection
Speaker 1: because ultimately I want people to feel good about themselves.
Speaker 1: I want people to feel good about themselves mentally. That's
Speaker 1: what overcomfort is is like getting out of your comfort
Speaker 1: zone to really reach your highest potential and who you
Speaker 1: are mentally and physically. And that's what it's done for me.
Speaker 1: Like if I didn't leave my comfort zone of like
Speaker 1: getting out of my bed. You guys, I would sleep
Speaker 1: in until like two to three or four o'clock and
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do anything. And I knew I was depressed,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't get out of bed, and it was
Speaker 1: comfortable for me. I felt good being in bed. I
Speaker 1: felt something could feel good. But it's also you're in
Speaker 1: your comfort zone. You're not reaching out to really get
Speaker 1: to where you need to be or to what I
Speaker 1: feel like God has called me to do or to
Speaker 1: be in my in in the world or in this
Speaker 1: life and with his purposes for me. So that's why
Speaker 1: it's called overcomfort. I started with the Feeling Good collection
Speaker 1: because I feel like everyone deserves to feel good every day.
Speaker 1: There's no reason for someone not to feel good. And
Speaker 1: I feel like once you wear something that you like,
Speaker 1: you feel good in it. The power of an outfit
Speaker 1: is insane, like when you're dolled up or once you
Speaker 1: get a workout done, you feel good. So that was
Speaker 1: the first collection, and I have so much more, like
Speaker 1: things that are that touched me to the core, like
Speaker 1: that have helped me, especially like since and I felt
Speaker 1: like it was like a whole pandemic thing where things
Speaker 1: were just like really really bad and I was in
Speaker 1: a really bad mental space. And the things that have
Speaker 1: helped me that I want people to know that can
Speaker 1: help them as well. So whatever I did in twenty
Speaker 1: to help me mentally, I'm going to just basically come
Speaker 1: up with tell us your your your slogan again, calling overcomfort,
Speaker 1: Calling overcomfort. So it's basically stepping out of your comfort
Speaker 1: zone and reaching your full potential. I love that. I
Speaker 1: love that, And it's it's just for women right now, right, No,
Speaker 1: the first collection was just for women, but everything else
Speaker 1: that's going to come out is okay and talking just
Speaker 1: for women, things about just for women. I really like.
Speaker 1: I think we talked about this, Jenska. I think it'd
Speaker 1: be great to eventually have our own gym just for women.
Speaker 1: I would love that, right, I would love that, Like
Speaker 1: that's a goal because, like I said, my friends literally
Speaker 1: go to the gym not to idolize or like stare
Speaker 1: at women, but it's like an ego thing for them,
Speaker 1: and it's just like no, like I would always feel awkwards,
Speaker 1: like they have this thing on TikTok called oh this
Speaker 1: is for the shy girls or whatever Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: bunch of girls that don't know what the funk to
Speaker 1: do in the gym, and I don't want to go
Speaker 1: because there's these hot ass guys that are just assholes.
Speaker 1: So like make a gym that where everybody can feel comfortable. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's my biggest thing, because sometimes there are girls that
Speaker 1: go to the gym for the wrong reasons to find
Speaker 1: a dude and they're not really working out. And there
Speaker 1: are those guys that make women that really want to
Speaker 1: go in there and lose weight and sweat and not
Speaker 1: look cute, make them feel insecure and make them feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: So that's one thing that I have on my vision board,
Speaker 1: you guys, and I think I'm probably gonna do with
Speaker 1: my sister Jennica. I'm excited for us to do like
Speaker 1: in all women's gym where you go in there and
Speaker 1: you box and you freaking just like let it all out.
Speaker 1: So you guys send us good vibes that can happen. So, Jenica,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have anything else to add,
Speaker 1: but I've really enjoyed a conversation. You always amaze me.
Speaker 1: It's crazy because I talked to you every single day,
Speaker 1: but to have you on the podcast has been a
Speaker 1: pleasure and to hear your your mind. You're just so
Speaker 1: intelligent and I'm always a channel, but it's the truth.
Speaker 1: Like I'm just so proud. I'm so proud of you, Jennica.
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you. Thank you for having me. I'd
Speaker 1: say it all the time, I don't really tell you,
Speaker 1: but like a lot of what I've learned, or a
Speaker 1: lot of where I'm or because of where I'm at
Speaker 1: is because of like my influences around me, and like
Speaker 1: you and Mom and like Jackie and learning different things
Speaker 1: here and there, Like I owe a lot of what
Speaker 1: I am umto you. So thank you, Penny, I love
Speaker 1: you so much. Okay, well, thank you again, Jenny. And
Speaker 1: as you guys know, I always end my podcasts with
Speaker 1: a motivational quote, and I thought this one was very fitting. Okay,
Speaker 1: since we're on this topic, say goodbye to your inner
Speaker 1: critics and take this pledge to be kinder to yourself
Speaker 1: and to others. It's a decision every single day that
Speaker 1: you must take. Okay, some days will be harder than others.
Speaker 1: But if you decide in the morning, I'm going to
Speaker 1: be kind to myself I'm gonna speak words of love.
Speaker 1: I love myself, I love my body. Everything's gonna be okay,
Speaker 1: Like all those things that I tell myself every day,
Speaker 1: it will really help. So so pledge with me that
Speaker 1: we will be kinder to ourselves and one another. You guys,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Check out over Comfort and also
Speaker 1: Jennica your social media. Please tell us about your social
Speaker 1: media first, okay, well, JENNICAA Underscore Lopez and then Overcomfort
Speaker 1: is Overcomfort the websites overcomfort dot com. And then we
Speaker 1: are launching something April fifteen. Look at her. You guys.
Speaker 1: Check it out. That is all for today on Chickens
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