1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back to our number two of the drive here 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio, and it is as we often 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: do here at the top of our number two, it's 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: either fantasy football or mock drafting or talk talking more draft, 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: and we're gonna go mock draft out here again. They're 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: starting to they're starting to come out more and more. 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of fun. Yeah. I guess Thursday Friday 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: we should get back in the fantasy they pick some 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: pick a standalone game or something tomorrow. 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: Well we get two games Saturday, two game Sunday, so 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: we can do standalone whatever. So anyways, looking here today's 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: mock draft I'm looking at here is on the thirty 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: third team, which if you have who's the author? This 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: is by Connor Lives a familiar with him. He's the 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: draft senior NFL draft writer on the thirty third team, gotcha, 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: which is the thirty third team the number thirty three 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: dot com. 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, they do good work. 19 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: I haven't checked out when out check that out. They 20 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: get a lot of good stuff on there. 21 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: They do. They have some good contributors. 22 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: He has four trades in this mock draft. 23 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: O funk. 24 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: It makes it a little different. 25 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 26 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, So he he still has the Bears taking Caleb 27 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: Williams number one. 28 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: I wonder if he like trades fields or any of 29 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. 30 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just looking here to see does he mention 31 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: anything about trading fields. He does not. 32 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 2: Again, I would be oh wait, people calling. 33 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: With rumors swirling regarding Justin Field's trade compensation, it feels 34 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: like we're inching toward a new quarterback era for the 35 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: Chicago Browns. Well, of course there rumors swirling about it. 36 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: Of course, they're all being started by the media. Nobody 37 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: in nobody in the Bears building is saying, hey, we 38 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: oh no. 39 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: Right, right right. I think it's the first overall pick. 40 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: Of course, there's gonna be rumors. 41 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: Number two, Washington takes Drake May, the quarterback out of 42 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: North Carolina. Then we have a trade. 43 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: Interesting. 44 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: The Falcons trade up with the Patriots. They give up 45 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: eight forty three and a twenty twenty five first round 46 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: draft pick. 47 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: Could be Belichick Trademan's old team. 48 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: They get the number three pick overall here and they 49 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: take it in Atlanta Jayden Daniels, the quarterback out of LSU. 50 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: But that would imply the Patriots didn't want him. But 51 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,639 Speaker 2: Patrios need a lot of stuff. I could see trading down. 52 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: Him first round draft pick for next year would be 53 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: pretty Yeah. Uh. At four, Arizona takes Marvin Harrison. JUNI, 54 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: you're the wide receiver out of Ohio State, I'd say gladly. 55 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 56 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: The Chargers then take Brock Bauers, the tight end out 57 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: of Georgia. 58 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: Dane put him there too, And I was listening to 59 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: Dane's uh you know podcast this morning and basically just said, 60 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: this guy's not a time. I mean, it's same conversation 61 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: with Pitts. He's a wide receiver, don't call him a 62 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: tight end. He's a weapon. He's one of the best 63 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: pass catchers in this draft. Just don't overthink it. I'm 64 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: fine with that. 65 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: At six, the Giants and take Malik Neighbors. 66 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 2: About to say it, I wonder if the Chargers would. 67 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: I would, because they're not going to have both of 68 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: those receivers, those veteran receivers on the Ross William I 69 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: heard somebody talking about, well, the Chargers jobs really attractive. 70 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: When we've laid this out a thousand times. 71 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: There's one thing really attractive. 72 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, the rest of it's gonna They're not going to 73 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: have any of those guys. 74 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 2: I mean, you're paying their cap situations. Was two things 75 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: really attracted about the Chargers job. You have this pick 76 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: and you have a quarterback. Yeah, and that's about it. 77 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: That's about it, because even with all those quote unquote 78 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: great players to Bosas and Khalil Max, they didn't win 79 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: anything with those guys. They haven't won anything with those guys. 80 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice to have like Slater and Zion Johnson, 81 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 2: but other than that, yeah, you don't. Those high priced 82 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: dudes that don't win anything aren't attractive. 83 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's seven. The Titans take Joe Alty, offensive tackle 84 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: on these that should become so jockey. It's getting there 85 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: and he's going ahead of the. 86 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, teams to have him over. Yeah, but I think 87 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: an alignment there is pretty set in stone. 88 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: Almost At eight, after trading down, the Patriots take Romadunzier 89 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: out of Washington. 90 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: Making sure use them. Don't know what their quarterback situation 91 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: would be here, but that's not about that would. 92 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: Be ironic that they they finally take a wide receiver 93 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: that well, first of all, they never picked this high. 94 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: But if he hit, if he hit, yeah. 95 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: Like they Belichick never drafted a wide receiver. 96 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: Well, well, right, maybe their best guys who traded for 97 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: Moss traded for well yeah, best draft pick they had 98 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: was Edelman. It was a quarterback at Penn State at 99 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: Kent State. 100 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: And then you have to go back to the early 101 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: early early. 102 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: Troy Brown's and those branch Yeah, Branch. 103 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: John Branch. At nine, we have another trade alert. The 104 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: Saints trade fourteen and their second round pick to the 105 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: Bears for nine and a twenty twenty five fifth round pick, 106 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: and they get for Shaanu the offensive tackle out of 107 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: Penn State. 108 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: So Saints trade up. 109 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: The Saints move up, the Bears move down, and they 110 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: pick up another second round pick. 111 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, he's a really good value that late. 112 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: I think the Bears are happy enough with their tackles. Yeah, 113 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: I mean they are two young ones. 114 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: It's and there's really probably no defensive player that they 115 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: want to take that. 116 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: High stands out. Yeah. I think everyone's going to have 117 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 2: a face and all. 118 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: The pass catchers is just the top pass catchers just 119 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: went yeah. 120 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you'd love to get out of there 121 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: if you're the Bear in that situation. 122 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: At ten, the Jets take J. C. Latham, the offensive 123 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: tackle out of Alabama. 124 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: I do think there's some discussion of who's gonna be third. 125 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: Tack So that's three tackles in the top ten. 126 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet there's three more in the top you know, 127 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: in the next twenty two. 128 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: At eleven, the Vikings take Jerseon Newton, the defensive tack 129 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: out Illinois. 130 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 2: Okay, so he's first defensive player, I think, so, I believe, 131 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 2: so yeah, yeah, yeah, it's awesome. Not uncommon. There may 132 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: not be one in the top ten. 133 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: But that kind of starts, I think where they run 134 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: on defensive players. 135 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 2: And then that's the edge. Guys will price our fall 136 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: corners or right in that neighboroo. 137 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: Right at twelve, the Broncos take Lay two out of 138 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: the address rut of UCLA. 139 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: He's been really, really good and people I don't think 140 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: I've mentioned this, but he retired from football kind of 141 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: like Jalen Phillips because of medical in Washington and then 142 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: got a clean bill of health. And you see, he's 143 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: been great for UCLA for two years. But there might 144 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: be some team doctors that were whatever he retired from 145 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: I think it was knees. Yeah, find some stuff. 146 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: Might come back and say so if he falls into 147 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: the second or third round. 148 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: That's probably probably why because not performance related. 149 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: At thirteen, the Raiders take Terry and Arnold, the cornerback 150 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: out of Alabama. 151 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna like him more and more, I think the 152 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: more we chime in on him. He is tough as 153 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: could be, big slot corner that also can play outside. 154 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 2: So I think he does go ahead of kol Aid. 155 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. At fourteen, the Bears, having traded downtake Brian Thomas Junior, 156 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: the wide receiver at of LSU. 157 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: That's I think that's the highest I've seen him and they. 158 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: Got a second round pick. 159 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: But nice. Yeah, he's a really attractive player too. 160 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: At fifteen, the Colts take Keyon Coleman, the wide receiver 161 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: out of Florida State. 162 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: Okay, a lot of people thought he would be like 163 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 2: wide receiver three before Neighbors came on super strong and we're. 164 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: Allowed to have a Florida quarterback throwing to a Florida 165 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: State wide receiver. 166 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 2: What what team was that again? 167 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: The Colts? 168 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. 169 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: At sixteen, the Seahawks take Yeah, the Seahawks take Jared Vversy, 170 00:06:58,920 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: the addresser out of Florida. 171 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: Eight. 172 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: So back to back Florida State. 173 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: Guys got to think that's a defensive player. Yeah. 174 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: Jacksonville at seventeen takes Dallas Turner, the edge rusher out 175 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: of Alabama. 176 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: Well, Allen's a potential free agent. I would think that 177 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: they slapped the franchise tag on him, though. 178 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: I think that's although they're. 179 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: Lineman would make more sense. 180 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: They're gonna be O line. Would make some sense to 181 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: need another receiver because Ridley's Yeah. 182 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: I mean, if you slap the tag on Allan, I 183 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: don't know if you can bring back Ridley. 184 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, they get bigger problems. 185 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: They do have some issues. Need to create a run 186 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: game too. Uh. 187 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: At eighteen, the Bengals take to Lasi Fluaga, the offensive 188 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: tackle out of Oregon State. 189 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean everyone seems to have him having 190 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: an offensive tax. 191 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: This was setting up all for the Steelers here though. 192 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: If we were covering this draft in the in this spring, 193 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: we'd be like, oh, cornerbacks are still largely untouched at 194 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: this point. 195 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and what there's one off the board, just off 196 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: the board. Yeah. 197 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: At nineteen, well there goes a second win. The Rams 198 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: take Nate Wiggins, the cornerback out of Clemson. 199 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: I mean, that doesn't mean there aren't others, but interesting. 200 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: Now, I haven't looked at this draft yet to see 201 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: who the stale has taken. 202 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,239 Speaker 2: I know your boy Dejeene Dejeene is there. I corrected 203 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: you wrong yesterday I called him Dejahn, like the mustard 204 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: is Dejeene, So we got that. 205 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: Now at twenty he has him taking Taylor Geitton, the 206 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: offensive tackle out of Oklahoma. Okay, I would take Dejeene 207 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: all day long. 208 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: I just don't know enough. But what I do know 209 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: about Geiton is he is skyrocketing up boards. Jim Nagy, 210 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: who's in charge of the Senior Bowl, Guiten's going to 211 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: be there. 212 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, the big I'll be keeping an eye on. 213 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. They said he is extremely athletic, like rare athletic traits, 214 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: and it's starting to grow into his paws. Hey. 215 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: I mean, if that's okay, it probably doesn't last at 216 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: twenty then probably not. 217 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 2: But there are so many other ones that are a 218 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: little more developed. Yeah, you know, I mean, maybe Dan 219 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: Moore holds it down for now and then it's him. 220 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 2: I don't know. Just going back to back super talented 221 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 2: offensive tackles doesn't break my heart no matter what. 222 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: At twenty one, the Dolphins take Braylan Trice, the addresser 223 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: out of Washington. 224 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: Okay, power player. I don't know if they do that though. 225 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: They have Phillips and Chubb, yeah them this week. 226 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they feel like they're not going to have 227 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: Chubb in the long um. Maybe Chubb's older than he's 228 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: been around for a while. At twenty two, the Eagles 229 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: take Kamari Lassiter, the cornerback out of Georgia. 230 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: Almost has to be a back seven guy. Yeah, they 231 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 2: need like four of them. 232 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: Houston then takes Troy Franklin, the wide receiver out of Oregon. 233 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: Okay, not everyone thinks he's receivers first. 234 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: No, you got an Eco Collins, you got Tanked l 235 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: you got Noah Brown did some good things for you. 236 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: Robert Woods, Yeah, she's yeah. I think Brown's a free agent. Okay, 237 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 2: and Wood's old, but still it's got Mitchie there. Yeah. 238 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: I could see them more like a Day two receiver. 239 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Then we have a trade. Detroit trade's the thirtieth 240 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: pick in their third round pick, which is ninety three 241 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: to Dallas for twenty four to come up and get 242 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: kool Aid McKinstry, the cornerback out of Alabama. They do 243 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: need help on the back end. 244 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: They do, like, not say anything bad about Sutton. Someton's 245 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: a good football player, but they asked Sutton to be 246 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: Dean sand or something. I mean, like they kind of 247 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: gave him the Joey Porter junior treatment. And that's not 248 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: who he knows that I mean, he's a two. Yeah. 249 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: At twenty five, the Packers then take Troy fa to 250 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: fat on who I should say, offense tackle lot of Washington. 251 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: I gotta learn these names. 252 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: I know how to read them. I don't know how 253 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 2: to say. That's what I mean. 254 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: Most of the time when I'm watching a college football game, 255 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: I had the sound down. 256 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: I'm not even just picking up player well exactly exactly. 257 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: It's actually better that way because you allow your eye 258 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: to go to the guys you like. 259 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: As opposed to at this point, I do a lot 260 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: of reading for draft stuff, not a lot of talking, 261 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: to be honest with you. But a lot of people 262 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: have the Packers going tackle, which I would add up 263 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 2: on defense forever, and they're young receivers. 264 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 1: Twenty six, the Buccaneers take JJ McCarthy, the quarterback in 265 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: of Michigan. 266 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: Not a fan, I'm not a fan from what I've seen. 267 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I know he's a super competitor, he's a winner, 268 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: and quarterback would make sense for them. I mean, even 269 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: if your back Baker, which I think they will. 270 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: At twenty seven, the Cardinals take Chop Robinson, ed rusher 271 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: out of Penn State. 272 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean they go Jilari last year, Maybe they'd 273 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: have their edge guys. 274 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: Twenty eight, the Chiefs take a Donnie Mitchell, the wide 275 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: receiver out of Texas. 276 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: Sure, I mean, maybe you solve that problem with Rice 277 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: and Mitchell. 278 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: At twenty nine, the Bills take Xavier Lagette, the wide 279 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: receiver out of South Carolina. 280 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: Okay, I can see that the guy is still there. 281 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: What's it? Yeah? Yeah, you're still there, so getting on 282 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: the phones. 283 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: At thirty the Cowboys take a Marius Mims, the offensive 284 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: tackle out of Georgia. 285 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: Possibly. I mean, Tyron Smith's up in age. I think 286 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: he's a free agent, but I can't imagine, yeah, anywhere. 287 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: Thirty one, the forty nine Ers take Patrick Paul, the 288 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: offensive tackle out of Houston. 289 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: Sure. 290 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: Sure, And at thirty two, the ravenstake Graham Barton, the 291 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: offensive tackle out of Duke. 292 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 2: Who would be a center of guard. It wouldn't be 293 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 2: a center for them a center, so maybe a guard 294 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: for them. Maybe they'd leave him at right tackle. That's 295 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: one of the beauties of him. He's a smart, versatile guy. 296 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: But I don't think he a pure tackle, even though 297 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: he played tackle at too. 298 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Zeitler's getting up in age for them. 299 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Moses isn't young. Yeah, you know they definitely Stanley's 300 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 2: hard to count on. 301 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: Start rebuilding that offensive line a little bit. 302 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: No, you're right. I mean Linderbaum's really the only long 303 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: term answer. Regien in the first round here coming off 304 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: an injury. 305 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: But I get it. 306 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: I think he's a first round pick on I mean, if. 307 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: That were the case and he was still available at 308 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: the top of the second round, yeah, I would. 309 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: The Joey Porter junior phone was ringing like crazy. 310 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a stud. 311 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like him quite a bit. Yeah. Again, I 312 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 2: was referencing the uh, the athletic one that the Dane did, 313 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: and he gave him the Jeene and he gave him 314 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: Fraser the center guard. 315 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: Two guys coming off injuries. But they might be. 316 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: But he went out of his way to say this 317 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: would be such a stealer draft, you know, like he 318 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 2: didn't talk about every team in detail, but he went 319 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 2: out of his way to be like, those are Steeler 320 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: type guys, you know, like Fraser grew up just a 321 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 2: little south of Pittsburgh, West Virginia, the Jene as tough 322 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: as could be, and Mick and then Nate tics with 323 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: goes oh Gene with Porter and Menca and he got 324 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: all excited. 325 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: You know, your secondary is like, all of a sudden, 326 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: it's really good. 327 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he's kind of a combination of Porter and Meca. 328 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so interesting. But that was the thirty third team 329 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: mock draft by Connor Lives. I hope I pronounced his 330 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: name right. 331 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: Probably not, Probably not. I'm sure that wasn't the only 332 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 2: one you butchered. Live say, I don't know you can 333 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: handle that duty for now. I don't want to do 334 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 2: with it. That's what I can't even get the gene right. 335 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: Anyways, don't make me laugh. Anyways, We're gonna get to 336 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: another break. He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale, Lollie. 337 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. 338 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: We'll be back with more right after this. Welcome back. 339 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm Dale. LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and uh, Matt, 340 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: it is time here as we often do, it is 341 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: exit meeting week here for the Steeler. 342 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: Yes, it is. 343 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and well it also means for some of these 344 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: guys who are pending free agents. Uh, this could be 345 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: the last time that they meet with this Mike Tomlin 346 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: and or Omar Khan before they walk out the door. 347 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: Might be their last visit to the South Side. 348 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: Let's go over this list and we'll put on our 349 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin slash Okay Omar Khn. 350 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: Should Mason Rudolph be his own hour, you know, like 351 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: this is going to be a long. 352 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: Exit being Well, let's let's start with Mason. 353 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: Want to knock him out? 354 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: That's let's get his own seg Mason, you're the You're 355 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: the first guy we want to talk to because. 356 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: I have mixed feelings how you actually handle this if 357 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: you're Omar and coach? You know, like, I got nothing 358 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: bad to say about Rudolph. I mean, boy, you exceeded expectations. Mason. 359 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: You were an unbelievably pleasant surprise. We are so happy 360 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: we brought you back. I mean, maybe the conversation is 361 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: you and I need to have a conversation before Mason 362 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: comes to sit down. 363 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: Right, Well, that that conversation has taken place, what are 364 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: we doing here? And then you have the conversation with Rudolph. 365 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think there is a world that I 366 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: could live with that i'd be interested in. Of Mason, 367 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna move on from Mitch Trubisky. Let's open up 368 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: a conversation of he was a very nicely paid backup 369 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: by NFL standards. How about you take his contract, which 370 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: would be the biggest rate big rays for you. And frankly, 371 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: in the back of my mind, I'm sitting there thinking 372 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: I kind of hope he takes it, because he maybe 373 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: could hold us over the coals and get more out 374 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: of us. But I'm not telling him that right now. 375 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: Well if he will, though I don't know if he 376 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: will either, because the bird in the hand might be 377 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: pretty darn attractive in this situation, and Mason, you and 378 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: Kenny are going to be really the only two in 379 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: the mix when camp opens, and you two are going 380 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: to have a fair fight battle. But then the other 381 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 2: part of me thinks I'm a mar Kahn. Might I 382 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: just say I want to even go bigger? And go 383 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: try to get a Kirk Cousins, or I'm going to 384 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: throw out of options you know that have been talked 385 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: about before you sit down with Rudolph, or if Mayfield 386 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: becomes available. I mean, like Brissette doesn't. I don't love 387 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: Mayfield either, but I'm just trying to think of who 388 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: is out there. 389 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: I don't think they'll I don't think they'll be interested 390 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: in Mayfield having played against. 391 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: Him, or I want to talk to the Bears about 392 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: fields or Mason, go test the waters and see what 393 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: you get. 394 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: I think that's the more likely. You know, that's the 395 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: more likely. Say, Hey, you've earned this. 396 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: We like you a lot. 397 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: You've earned the opportunity to go out and test the 398 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: test free agency. We thought you played really well down 399 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: the stretch. We were happy with how you played. He 400 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: gave me, Yeah, get you had an opportunity. That's why 401 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: we stuck with you in the playoff game. We could 402 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: have gone back to Kenny. We didn't because we've we've 403 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: felt that you were playing to win that game. You 404 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: were playing that well. You deserve the opportunity to go 405 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: out again. Now that you've had this four game stretch 406 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: of playing which you didn't have last year when you 407 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: went into free agency. Go see what you can get, 408 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: But give us a call when when the opportunity, if 409 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: if somebody makes you an offer, give us a call. 410 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: Test the waters. We just want you to know we'd 411 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: like to have you back. We'd be more than happy 412 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: to have you back. And here's what we're offering we're 413 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: gonna give. If you do come back, you will have 414 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: an opportunity to compete with Kenny for the starting job, 415 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: but you also deserve the opportunity to go out there 416 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: and see what the market has to offer. 417 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I don't think the NFL will look at 418 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: him as a starter. 419 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: I don't think they will either. 420 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,239 Speaker 2: I mean, and I don't know that he'll have a 421 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: better chance of starting than battling Picket, you know what 422 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 2: I mean. Like I could see him Carolina says, come 423 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 2: be behind Bryce Young and if he falls on his face, 424 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 2: the job is yours. Or the Raiders say, come join 425 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 2: our team. But we really hope to draft a guy 426 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: in the first rod. We just want to have to 427 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: tell him this. 428 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: We just went through that that mock draft stuff there 429 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: in the previous segment. 430 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: There's gonna be some guys there were drafted pretty there were. 431 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: Three quarterbacks taken high of teams that you would look 432 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: at and go, oh, they're probably yeah, they're gonna go 433 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: get a quarterback, you know. To me, the Kirk Cuz 434 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: and stuff, Minnesota is going to know more about his 435 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: I think he'll be a Viking. I think he'll be 436 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: a Viking. 437 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think Bayfield will be a Buck after 438 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 2: they want a playoff game, right, and I don't want 439 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: Mayfield all that much. 440 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: Any you know, so then you're looking at you know, 441 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: the fields, your Kobe Brissett or something like that. 442 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 2: I mean, I certainly think about this what I would do, 443 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: But I don't envision the Steelers going from twenty to 444 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: five to go get Jayden Daniels. Yeah, I don't think 445 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 2: that happens. I'm not sure Pinnix or bo Nicks or 446 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: McCarthy is. 447 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: Really they don't do it for me. 448 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: They don't do it for me either, you know. And 449 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: I'm always in favor of taking one, but I think 450 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: if somebody falls on day two, I'd be interested as 451 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 2: opposed to giving up a dejene, you know. 452 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: In order foundation a guy who could be a foundational player. 453 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: And maybe you'll regret it and think, wow, we're really 454 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 2: light a quarterback in Week eight, that Rudolph or Pickett 455 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: is not a starter. 456 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: I'd rather take a chance like Spencer Rattler or somebody 457 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: that in the fourth round. 458 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: I agree, I think that's a great name. But I 459 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 2: might go to that meeting. I mean I might walk 460 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: into that exit meeting with Rudolph and as opposed to 461 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 2: saying go test the market, I might have a contract 462 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 2: sitting there for him. 463 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: Like, but if I'm Rudelf, if you're Rudolph, you don't 464 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: want to sign that contract next. 465 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: But I mean, this is a show of faith. 466 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: That's why, that's why I think you tell him, Look, 467 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: we'd love to have you back. Go out test the market, 468 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: see where you're at. We've got an offer here ready 469 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: for you. And to your point, it's the midst you 470 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: know what what we just gonnadvance? Yeah, and but well 471 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: we can talk. If you get a better offer than that, 472 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it. And that's how I'd handle it. 473 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 2: Or is it just job number one to lock him up? 474 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: And I mean, I don't think I could sleep at 475 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 2: night if he signed with the Cults or Raiders or 476 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 2: Bears or whatever. I mean I still could sleep at night, 477 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, And I hate negotiating with Well, 478 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: we're afraid we can't get better. You can always find somebody, yeah, 479 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: I mean, like he's not special. 480 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: Again, you know, you can pivot to it someone like that. 481 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: Then I make a bigger pitch. 482 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: For one of those guys. 483 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, because even if Kenny Pickett is your guy, he 484 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: has gotten hurt and he's his first two seasons. I 485 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: want to have a good backup in place. 486 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I can't go in just Kenny's the guy, 487 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: no matter what. I can't feel confident with that. Yeah, 488 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 2: no question about it. How to handle it is what 489 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: I haven't come up with yet. Well, would I be 490 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: happy if Rudolph was in camp next year? Absolute? 491 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely? 492 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm happy with what he did? Absolutely? Could you 493 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: get better? Maybe? I don't know how to, you know. 494 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: And then part of that's you can actually have conversations 495 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 2: with his agent and stuff. I don't know what he wants. 496 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, so that's that's all part of that conversation. 497 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Obviously we'll talk plenty about. 498 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: That moving on here. Some of it we'll go with 499 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: through the guys who played more first. Uh So, I'm 500 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: looking here at Chandon Sullivan, who is a unrestricted free agent, 501 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: played a decent amount of snaps. Is your nickel some 502 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: of these I'm just going to be cold and flat 503 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: out business decision. It's been nice doing business with the Chanden, 504 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: but we gave up about the most production in the league, 505 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: the slots. It's not all your fault, but I would 506 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: rather draft the gene. 507 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. I'm with you on that. 508 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: And I don't think you bring chand to Sullivan back now. 509 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: And maybe when camp opens, if he doesn't have a 510 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 2: job and you didn't find a great slot option or whatever, 511 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: you give him a buzz. But it doesn't mean we 512 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 2: can't ever talk again. But we could do better. 513 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: Uh Kawan Alexander. 514 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 2: So again, maybe you know more than I do about 515 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: his injury. We how bad is his injury? 516 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: I think he'll be ready for. 517 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 2: Training camp and all those things. Quand you want to 518 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 2: sign the same deal we signed you to before you 519 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: sign a one year deal and three you run it 520 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 2: back and between the three three of you and assuming 521 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: Holcomb's healthy, we're kind of done it. Linebacker. It wasn't perfect, 522 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: but we don't have a ton invested in it. 523 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: We want to be we made we made Draft one, 524 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: but it's not going to be early. 525 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. We're based on our front, which we think 526 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: is going to be a strength again, and we really 527 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: want to improve the back end. And we were happy 528 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: with the three you combined. I want to run it back. Yeah. 529 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 2: If you say no, I'm going to go look for 530 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 2: someone just like you. Right, it's been around the block 531 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 2: that can run. 532 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, Levi Wallace. 533 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: Sorry, Levi, Yeah, I'm done. Yeah, your great story. You 534 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,959 Speaker 2: did some good things here. I gotta get better at 535 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: outside corner. Yeah. 536 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: You've stuck around the league now for seven seasons. Yeah, 537 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a great success story for a 538 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: guy who's a walk on at Alabama of all places. 539 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: You showed a lot of faith in yourself. We think 540 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: you'll probably still wind up playing in the NFL somewhere 541 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: next year. 542 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: But I don't think he'll start for anyone next year. 543 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: I mean not by design. Yeah, no, so we it's 544 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: one of our biggest priorities is to get better at 545 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: your position. 546 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: Montrevius Adams very interested in bringing them back, Yeah, very interested. 547 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 2: I don't know what he makes, but I think. 548 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: I think he made. I think he made two or 549 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 1: three million, two and a half or two. Yeah, I 550 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: think that we'll give you. We'll give you a little 551 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: bump up from what you made this year. But we 552 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: like you and you now know the system. You're a 553 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: valuable player for us this year. Yeah, you're probably you're 554 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: not going to be the starter. No, that's Keano, but 555 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: you knew that when we drafted him. But we still 556 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: we feel like you could be a good piece as 557 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: a rotational player. 558 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, fifteen twenty snaps a game, which is kind 559 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 2: of what he did anyway. Yeah, maybe if you're making 560 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: two and a half, we'll give you three. If you're 561 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 2: making two, we'll give you two and a half. Yeah, 562 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 2: one year deal. Probably, we'll talk again a year, but 563 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: we like it. 564 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Miles kill a Brew. 565 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: I should know this better. I just don't know what 566 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 2: he costs. What are the most expensive special. 567 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: He was a couple he was, he was that same 568 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: boat with he was two or three million dollars this year. 569 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I remember when the Bills sim Matta caved 570 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: it was pretty good chunk. 571 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, Killer Brew is thirty now. Yeah, but he's 572 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: a really good special teams player. 573 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 2: And they value those dudes, and yeah, you can make capspace. 574 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: For he's a special teams captain. Yeah, I think you 575 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: bring them back. I would like to. 576 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: I mean, if he says I can get five from 577 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 2: some team that has a ton and you're paying him 578 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: three or whatever, we'll. 579 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: Go find the next We'll go find the next Miles 580 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: killer Brew. 581 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: Then I guess yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean if he's 582 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 2: going to play hardball with you, which maybe there are 583 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: four or five teams that he's a pro bowler, now, 584 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 2: would say we'll give you more, Okay, but we'll gladly 585 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: give you the same deal we're giving you now. 586 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: I don't know that that's going to happen, though, because 587 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: there aren't many teams that value no you know, like 588 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: wherever Belichick lands, could he could Miles killer Brew end 589 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: up there? 590 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: Sure, if he has a ton of capspace. 591 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, But by and large, I mean most teams aren't 592 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: gonna look at a guy that. 593 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: It's not a bitting war for Kirk Cousins. 594 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: No, right, Michael Walker played a lot of snaps. 595 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: But I'm not in Yeah. I mean maybe is a 596 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: bring the camp guy. Yeah, maybe, But Michael, if you go, 597 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 2: if you get a deal out there from the tape 598 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 2: you put out. 599 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: God bless you. 600 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: Good, good for you, Thanks for your service. 601 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: God bless you. 602 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, armand Watts, I'm a big fan of Armon Walls. Yeah, 603 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: same conversation as Adams. Really, I mean you were really 604 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 2: good here on limited snaps. That's what we want to 605 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 2: keep rolling back. I think he's kind of a warmly 606 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: maybe better than Yeah. 607 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: We hope you liked it here. We hope you've found 608 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: yeah a spot here. We know you probably didn't play 609 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: as much as you wanted to, but they were a 610 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: big You were a big piece that we loved having here. 611 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: That's why you were active. 612 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't want Cam Hayward playing ninety percent snaps. 613 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 2: We need you to fill in, and you were active 614 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: quite a bit. How about we run it back. Yeah, 615 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: worked out well for both parties. James Pierre probably Walks. 616 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 2: I know he has some special teams value. 617 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: You hope that's one of the young guys that you 618 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: had on the roster this year. 619 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're still out there a month after free 620 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: agency opens, give us a buzz. We'll see if we 621 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 2: have a spot for you. Maybe you're our I. 622 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: Mean, they didn't, they didn't tender him last years as 623 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: a restrictive free agent. He ended up signing coming back 624 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: on the cheap. 625 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: So I'd be open to that, but I can't guarantee 626 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 2: your roster spot. 627 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: You're guarantee the spot. No, what else we got here, 628 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: Let's see Marcus Golden. 629 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: I'd like to run it back with it. 630 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 1: I'd like to run that back, and I think that 631 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: can happen. Yeah, I mean we want we want ten 632 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: to fifteen snaps a game out of you. You were 633 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: productive when you did that this year. You were productive 634 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: and you know when when we had to play in 635 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: the in the playoffs when TJ was out. 636 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'd like to have you back. We like the 637 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 2: being able to sleep at night, that if TJ is 638 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 2: going to miss a game, it's not as bad as 639 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: it's been in the past. You don't need to tell 640 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: him this, but I need to find a way to 641 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: get her big more snaps and maybe he the three 642 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: and you're the four. Whatever, But we like what you did. 643 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: How about the same contract you ever take? Yeah? One 644 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 2: year deal. 645 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: Miles Boykin. 646 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know that Alan Robinson is gonna be back. No, 647 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: I don't. 648 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: I don't know that I don't think he will be 649 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: because I think the contract precludes that. 650 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I I know that doesn't sound like much, 651 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: but a blocking wide receiver. 652 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: Who's also a demon on special team, that guy back 653 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: in a heartbeat. 654 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 2: Maybe even on a two year deal, yea, and not 655 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 2: just a one year, especially if you lose Killer Brew. 656 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, now you gotta have You can't lose both of 657 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: those gus, right right right. 658 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 2: I think they're probably your best two special teamers not 659 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: named Boswell. 660 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I can't. 661 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 2: He's not gonna be expensive. 662 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: No, that's the other thing. 663 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: Better than league minimum, but not way over to your 664 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: deal with a little signing bonus. Would be happy by it. 665 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: If your boyko. 666 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, some of these Blake Martinez, yeah, you know, Elijah Riley, 667 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: same as Pierre co H. If I can get you back, 668 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: we'll try to bring you back. 669 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 2: But you know, both those guys are kind of like 670 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: see how the draft goes. Yeah, and if you're out 671 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 2: there after the draft and we're a little light at safety, 672 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: we like your work, but there you haven't. 673 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: Those are the guys. That's that's your unrestrict that's your 674 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: unrestricted free agents right there, that's them. 675 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: I know, there's not many. The one I wasn't sure 676 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: of is Row. I don't know if he would pop 677 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: up on some of. 678 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: These lists because he was a late signing. 679 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. Martinez, yeah he's still on. 680 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how that works with the practice squad guys. 681 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what Roe's situation is, but I 682 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 2: would like to bring him back. Yeah, I would. I 683 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: think more so than Walker or Martinez or Jack those 684 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 2: late editions. He's one that I might want to He 685 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: can still play, you can still play. I think he 686 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: might be better. 687 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: I think starting strong safety now. 688 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: I think he's better in KZ. Yeah, at least he 689 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: played better this year. I'd love to have Row, Menca 690 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: and a third round pick. 691 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: I'd love to have a secondary that was Menca of 692 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: Roe and Gene. I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not 693 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: now we're talking. 694 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: But Rose a guy i'd like to bring back. I 695 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: don't know what his contract situation. Yeah, so it can't 696 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: be super expensive. I wouldn't. 697 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, wouldn't think it's going to be. I mean, he's 698 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: he was sitting out on the open market in November 699 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: long ago, so yeah, I think I think that's the 700 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: situation here. They restricted guys or Chapel Russell, now's you're 701 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: not tendering him? Yeah, Christian Koenz, who, Okay, you're gonna 702 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: have to do something here in Goblin Equal Week. Well, 703 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: I guess in the Renell Wren who isn't. 704 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: None of those guys matter? 705 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, egle Beak was valuable as a return guy. 706 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: But you're gonna pay a return guy three million dollars 707 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: you can find those. 708 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: What I don't know about him is is he a 709 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: good running back or not? Like you'd like your third 710 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: running back to be a Betty Snell special team or 711 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: it's also not a bad back or not? 712 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: And CoInc you could probably resign to a new deals 713 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: restrictive free agent situation with him. 714 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 2: So and they seem happy enough with them. 715 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, uh, that's the list. We're going to get 716 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: to another break he is and we'll you know, we'll 717 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: take off our omark on Mike Tomlin hats here, but. 718 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: He's here the most years. 719 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: Much easier, yeah, much easier. Thing is the is the 720 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: Rubik's cube that you got to get together here first? 721 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 2: Yea, And what he'd want and all that stuff. We'll 722 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: talk more about that a lot. 723 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely, he is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale, Lollie. You're listening 724 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be 725 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: back to finish up the show right after this. 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And Matt, 734 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: I saw this litt California, the Governor Gavin Newsom had 735 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: the veto a proposal in California to ban tackle football 736 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: under the age of twelve. 737 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 2: Really he vetoed the vitos. So it's still happening. 738 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: Well, no, he vita they could they could get overridden 739 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: in their California legislature. Why in the world. And here's 740 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: the quote from this Newsom. This is I'm looking at 741 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk here. Newsom still wants to make tackle 742 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: football safer. I'm deeply concerned about the health and safety 743 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: of our young athletes. I don't know if I've seen 744 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: major injuries at the end of twelve age group. 745 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: I haven't studied it much, but I mean, you guys 746 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: don't think we have. 747 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: A broken arm or things like that, but you could 748 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: do that in soccer. I've seen in the baseball field. 749 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, to be honest, the little experience I had, 750 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: like I helped way back when when my son was 751 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: like four or whatever. It was Upper Saint Clair where 752 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: I live, had decided to do flag football, and so 753 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 2: I helped like write the rules and got involved and 754 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: was one of the first coaches and did that for 755 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: two or three years. And I I'll coach Todd Hayley 756 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: to win a championship one year, how about that. I'm 757 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,719 Speaker 2: not sure he as invested in as I was. The 758 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: Maroon six were the champions in the second year anyway, 759 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: But I was really worried about injuries there, much like 760 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 2: soccer because nobody pads on. There's all these little kids 761 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: running around just banging heads into each other trying to 762 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: go get the ball. And not to mention when I 763 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: started to be more involved with the league or as 764 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: the league developed, some of the tackle players also played 765 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 2: flag and that got scary because they knew what they 766 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 2: were doing and they ran into people hard. And a 767 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 2: lot of those kids weren't football players getting run into. Yeah, 768 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff actually worries me more than tackle. 769 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: This should be it should be a decision the parents make, 770 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: of course not. It should be at least a it 771 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: should be available like this. This is overstepping nanny state 772 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: kind of stuff here that if my like, are we 773 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: gonna have? Then if if they did this, would would 774 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: there be illegal tackle football leagues. You know, you're either 775 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: gonna play or you're not. Like my my parents when 776 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: I was a kid did not want me to play football. 777 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: That didn't stop me from playing football. I still went 778 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: out and we played in the backyard. And I can 779 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: remember I had to play and we're playing. I'm running 780 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: with the ball and I got high load and I 781 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: landed hard on my shoulder and separated my shoulder. And 782 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: because you know, I hey, my my parents said, you know, 783 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to play football. I didn't tell anybody. I 784 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: just dealt with it and did it hurt for several 785 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: weeks until you know, late in bed at night and 786 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: couldn't sleep, and finally it, uh you know, kind of 787 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: got back and it was obviously it was probably the 788 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: a seed joint because I knew it could have stuck 789 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: up on the one side there. Now that I know 790 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,959 Speaker 1: where an ac joint is, I'm like, that's what it was. 791 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: And I can remember, like, after a couple of weeks, 792 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: I went back to playing basketball and I've reached up 793 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: and to try to get a rebound and it popped 794 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: out again. I'm like, yeah, but that's you know, kids 795 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: are going to play football, kids, kids are going to 796 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: be They're going to get hurt doing other stuff on 797 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: their own. 798 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I mean we used to is it is 799 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 2: it any safe for the skateboard as I say, riding 800 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 2: bikes and you know, we make jumps and I remember 801 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 2: like knocking myself out one time. We're going over the handlebars, 802 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: you know, and it's football, Yeah, it's football. 803 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean I remember watching my kids play tackle football 804 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: in the backyard. 805 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 2: Like that's that's what you do, your kid. I mean, 806 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 2: at least they have pads, they have coaches, they have refs, 807 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: they have supervision and the right hopefully you teach these 808 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 2: kids how to tackle properly and not horse caller and 809 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. It at least should be 810 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 2: available in every state and at a minimum, And I'm 811 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 2: sure no one's that's our take on things. So you're 812 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 2: talking about football and if parents doesn't want your kid 813 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 2: to do it, then don't do that, you're right? Or are 814 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 2: they going to wait until they're teenager or junior high 815 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 2: or whatever? 816 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: And I get get that argument too. I mean I 817 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: could go, you know, go through that Steelers locker room 818 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: and talk to all of those guys, all fifty three 819 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: guys on the on the active roster, and a bunch 820 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: of them didn't play football until they got to high school. 821 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot. I mean, especially the big guys. You 822 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 2: see that. Yeah, every draft class you'll see that, Like, boy, 823 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: he's a basketball player and realized he wasn't gonna be 824 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 2: six ' nine so he became a tight end or 825 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 2: defensive end or whatever. Yeah. No, I don't I think 826 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 2: that's I think that's ludicrous. I mean, I don't have 827 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 2: the medical studies and I wouldn't pretend to be a 828 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 2: doctor on it, but I mean, I mean, great players 829 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 2: came out of California. 830 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: Right, you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna close down that 831 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 1: avenue for those for those kids. 832 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 2: And they have to wait till they're thirteen. I mean, yeah, 833 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 2: you're right, there probably would be speakeasies for football. Speakeasy 834 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 2: everybody moves to Nevada legal football games. Yeah, yeah, I 835 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: think that's bonkers. 836 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so hopefully that's that. I get the sentiment. But 837 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: come on, folks, we're talking about football here. It's it's 838 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: ingrained if you if you saw this a couple of 839 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: weeks ago, came out the of the top one hundred 840 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: programs on network television past this past year. I think 841 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: like ninety seven of them were football games. 842 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 2: Really, that doesn't surprise me at all. I mean, it's 843 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 2: what they used to call baseball, America's past time, or 844 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's football. It's it's football, climate, close, clime, 845 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 2: and close. I mean you can't I don't know the numbers, 846 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 2: but is it a higher risk sport than hockey can be? 847 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 2: I mean they have some pads on too, but they also. 848 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: Actually I think that the riskiest sport if you look 849 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: at it per injury. And I remember doing something on 850 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: this several years ago, so I don't know if it's 851 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: changed not. It's actually girls soccer. 852 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 2: I thought soccer was because they banged heads a lot. 853 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: They banged heads a lot, so there's a lot of concussions. 854 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: They have more knee injuries until. 855 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 2: The knees and ankles. Think any other sport, you know, 856 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 2: the change of direction stuff, But the the lack of 857 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,240 Speaker 2: head gear is the problem. 858 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 1: That's why. And some you know, you're not allowed to 859 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: head the ball in some you know, the younger league, 860 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: because it's a blow to the head. 861 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 2: It's two heads going up trying to hit the ball 862 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 2: right right. 863 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean is football you know safe? No, 864 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: it's not. 865 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 2: But everybody knows what going. 866 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, neither is it. There's no sport. I mean again, 867 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: I still coach baseball. Baseball's you know, it's it's supposed 868 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: to be a non contact sport, but they are injuries. 869 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: I've seen kids get concussions. I've seen kids get hit 870 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: with the baseball. Is that the next band? I used 871 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: to tell when I coach basketball. 872 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 2: Arm injuries for pitchers. Yeah, right. 873 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: When I coached basketball, I would tell the kids first practice, 874 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: if you're playing basketball, because you think this is a 875 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: non contact sport, then you're in the wrong sport. This 876 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: is not the sport for you, because when we play basketball, 877 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: there's going to be contact. 878 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 2: So I don't know anything about swimming. But my next 879 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 2: door neighbor's son the same age as my son, and 880 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 2: he's one of the best high school swimmers or whatever. 881 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 2: I just remember at the block party talking to him 882 00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 2: a little bit and he's like, you wouldn't think that's 883 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 2: a big deal, but dudes that swim for a long 884 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 2: time have bad shoulder, you know, like there's a lot 885 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 2: of long term effects, so you would think that the 886 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 2: water is easy on you, Like, none of them are 887 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 2: gonna be easy on you. No, it's a sport. You're 888 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 2: going all out. Yeah right, that's what you do. 889 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: So hopefully California sticks with that decision. 890 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 2: Is not going to fly. 891 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, man, how many how many kids? 892 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like you said, California is one of 893 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: the best, biggest producers of I mean, it's one of 894 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: the most popular states, of course, but it's also you know. 895 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 2: You think about the percentage of the NFL what grew 896 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,879 Speaker 2: up in California high percent, high percent. 897 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, and for a lot of those guys. 898 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: That was their way out absolutely of some bad situations. 899 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 2: Right, And hey, I don't think it would hurt some 900 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 2: kids to stop playing a little less. I sound super old, 901 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 2: but you don't have to play Madden. You can get 902 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 2: outside once in a while too. 903 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's have the kids do less. 904 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right, let's have more video games. Right. 905 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: Anyways, that's gonna do it for today's show. That's our 906 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: little soapbox ran there today. We'll see Mike Tomlin will 907 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: talk tomorrow to the media, will see we'll have a 908 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: little bit better idea of everything that goes on with that. 909 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: Of course I'll be down there covering that for Steelers 910 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: dot Com, Matt and now we'll talk about it when 911 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: we do the show tomorrow. But for my partner Matt Williamson, 912 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: for Justin Miller here on site keeping us on the air, 913 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lollie. We thank you for listening to this 914 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 1: edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.