1 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: We got all the boys with us today. Matt Holliday 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: is in a vehicle with Spotty Internet. Cayle Gibson's with us, Hello, Kyle, 3 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: and Lance Lynn is with us. Lance just got an 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: award from Old Miss. He's in the Hall of Fame 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: and he's kept the hardware. 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: Wow, congratulation, Wow, congratulations Lance. 7 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Thank thank you. We're real hard on that one. Now, Matt, 8 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: tell us who you're with. 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 3: I just spilled my smoothie all over my leg, so 10 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: you almost got my first cuss word out of me. 11 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: Besides Lance, I almost. 12 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 4: Hey, you're the you're the bad boy of this group anyways, 13 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 4: so you just let him fly. 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: Matt, who give our guests today? Or I'm with Jackson 15 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: and Ethan. 16 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: Hi, boys, we'll get him. 17 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: And yeah, we're headed over to work out. I gotta 18 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: be honest. I thought this podcast was at one Central, so. 19 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: That's not and then I just went on living my life. Nope, yeah, nope. 20 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: But this questions for Jackson or Ethan. We can fire 21 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: him off. 22 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, fire and figure out how 23 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: to get centered here. It's an off center. You get 24 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: an off center to get center makes a lot of sense. 25 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: And that's weird. 26 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: Cole ask a question for U for one of the 27 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: Holiday boys, and also let's take a quick moment to 28 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: celebrate the fact that he spilled a smoothie on him. 29 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: You go ahead, Yeah, absolutely, good job. 30 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think an interesting off season dynamic here. You 31 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: guys are with two different teams. You know, Jackson obviously 32 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: we have the relationship with Baltimore, but Ethan, Uh, how 33 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: do you guys lean into each other? You know, when 34 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: you're working on your swing, are you guys like constantly? 35 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: Is it more of a competition or do you guys 36 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: just have a good feel you know, working with your 37 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: dad there about you know what you're trying to do, 38 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: and and do you guys give each other critiques or no? 39 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think it's interesting because obviously Jackson's 40 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 5: in the show and I'm in the minor leagues, and 41 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 5: we're both in two different phases of the game. 42 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: And I think. 43 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 5: It's a really cool opportunity to stow season to kind 44 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 5: of learn what both of us have kind of gathered 45 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 5: over the last few months and what they gathered over 46 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 5: the whole season of playing his first full season in 47 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 5: the big leagues. And I'm excited I'm excited to learn 48 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 5: from him, and and it takes. 49 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: Things and we can kind of work together. 50 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 5: I mean, there's definitely times to compete with each other, 51 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 5: but I think for now it's it's kind of soaking 52 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 5: up information from each other. 53 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: Swinging. Jackson's already swinging in the back seat. I can 54 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: see him. He's like the field. 55 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 6: I haven't hit since the last game of the year, 56 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 6: so I'm itching a little bit. I'm taking a little 57 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 6: bit of a break, so I'm excited to. 58 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: Get back to king. I've been locked in, though, so 59 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm a little up on it right now. 60 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: I'm in locked in. 61 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: How do you guys manage having hitting coaches on your 62 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: own teams and then having your dad, Matt Holliday, who 63 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: knows as much about hitting as anybody. How do you 64 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: guys manage that? I think I think for me it's 65 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: it's just communicating. 66 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 6: I've been lucky to have a lot of hitting coaches 67 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 6: that have been pretty open to the fact that I 68 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 6: grew up with the big league dad, and he probably 69 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 6: knows my swing a little bit better than than they might. 70 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 6: But you're also there with them every single day, and 71 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 6: just being ab would have kind of manage what he's 72 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 6: seen and what they're seeing and just kind of ha 73 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 6: an open dialogue and and and involving him has been 74 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 6: helpful for me. And our coaches have been very unwilling 75 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 6: to do that, which has been great. And but but 76 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 6: you're there every day with your hitty coaches, so being 77 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 6: able to trust them and and and lean on what 78 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 6: they see is has been helpful for me. 79 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: But uh, it's not too bad. 80 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 6: I've been lucky to have an organization with some great 81 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 6: some great coaches that have been really open to let 82 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 6: him come and watch and and and be a part 83 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 6: of kind of our routine whenever he's in Talents. So 84 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 6: it's it's been really easy in our organization. So I'm 85 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 6: pretty lucky to have that, Jackson. 86 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: Uh. 87 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: I mean, my time was obviously a lot shorter this 88 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: year than I was wanting it to be in Baltimore, 89 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 2: but man, the the three or four weeks I was 90 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: there watching the game slow down for you and watching 91 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: you're at baths just from you know, end of April 92 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: to end of May was awesome. What was that process like? 93 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 2: You know, obviously for you, you met those expectations a 94 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: lot of steps, right, I'm sure you wanted to do 95 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: better than you expect a lot out of yourself. But 96 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: how did this season kind of morph into you know, 97 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 2: you really slowing the game down and and you know, 98 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: experiencing some extreme hot streaks where you you carried that 99 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 2: offense for for a few of those games that I 100 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: was there. 101 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think just getting more comfortable helped 102 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 6: a lot. Facing guys for the second time made it 103 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 6: a lot easier. But just just being aggressive and not 104 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 6: being afraid to to swing and miss and make mistakes 105 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 6: was was really helpful for me. And I got a 106 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 6: pretty neat opportunity to be able to lead off every 107 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 6: day and just kind of go out there and and 108 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 6: fail but but learn from it. 109 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: And that was that was helpful for me, just to 110 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: be able to. 111 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 6: Go out there and and know that I'm in the 112 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 6: lineup no matter who I'm facing. And yeah, it was 113 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 6: a great experience this year, getting so many at bats 114 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 6: against so many good pictures. And I'm really looking forward 115 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 6: to to next year and continuing to build off that. 116 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 6: But you know, the lead on guys like like Gunner 117 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 6: and WeSC and ADLEI and and their experiences and just 118 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 6: going out there and having fun and and not worried 119 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 6: about the results. 120 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: How about you, then, what was the first year of 121 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: pro ball like for you? What what were the adjustments? 122 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: Like? 123 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the game is obviously a lot different 124 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 5: in high school when it comes to the picture and 125 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 5: the defense and just the overall overall game. It's just 126 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 5: so much different, such a step above the composition at 127 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 5: high school. But I think learning how to play every 128 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 5: single day was a big adjustment for me. Just being 129 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 5: able to hurt my body in my mind, to be 130 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 5: able to flush bad games and and also be able 131 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 5: to soak up information from good games. It's just a 132 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 5: really good learning experience for me. And that's kind of 133 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 5: how I went into it. It was more of a 134 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 5: learning experience. I was really just wanted to learn and 135 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 5: obviously get prepared for next season in my first full year. 136 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: And it was great. I got to learn a lot 137 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: of things. 138 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 5: I got guts, really beat around some awesome guys and 139 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 5: awesome coaches, and it was a It was a great experience. 140 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: It was I just wonder, when you guys are together, 141 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: who decides to drive? Because right now it sure has 142 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: a feel of driving. Miss Maddie, like, does does that right? Passenger? 143 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: Because of his age or how does that work out? 144 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 5: Well, you know, we actually went to the we're big 145 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 5: OC wrestling fans, so we went to the wrestling duels 146 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 5: the last few days in Tulsa. 147 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: So he's been driving me for the last few days. 148 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 5: So I'll, uh, I'll take him around for for as 149 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 5: long as he needs. It's like, I gotta I gotta 150 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 5: repay him on that. 151 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: What an old joke? Are you making an old joke? Yeah, 152 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: he's going the old guy. 153 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 4: Next he was like, can't drive because the hip replacement 154 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 4: he was going there. 155 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: I thought that's what there was. 156 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: That was in. 157 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: You guys, You guys want to see you want to 158 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: see you want to see my leg? 159 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: Yes, that one's not. 160 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: That's Oh gosh, what happened? I don't know are but 161 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: that was interesting. 162 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: Grated show the kids. 163 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: I'm showing Smoothie all over my leg that I'm currently 164 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: riding around, all over and all over the seat and 165 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: all over Ethan's seat. 166 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: Is car is staying. It's Ethan's Ethan's truck. 167 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: It's not that new, but it's nice. What do you go. 168 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure he never spilled anything in your car when 169 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: he was a kid either, So fine, oh yeah, yeah, 170 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: this is yeah for it's a. 171 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 7: T r X. 172 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: It's nice, nice, And what flavor smoothie did you get? Matt? 173 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: I think everyone wants to know. 174 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 3: It was uh, strawberry and pineapple and cranberry. There's about 175 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: three drinks left out of forty five. I would have say, 176 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: probably have to start here. Yeah, it's got a lot 177 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: of lake here on it. 178 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: So one of them boys buy you a new smoothie. 179 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: Whenever you guys get done working out, you know, have 180 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: them take down smoothie a lot too. 181 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: My fault. Now listen, Matt, we have we have to 182 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: break here. Do you want to stay with us or 183 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: do you want to clean up and carry on the 184 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: day with your kids. It's up to you. Because you 185 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: were a yeomen, yeomen's work for joining us. Well, how 186 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: much longer is the show? We're gonna take a minute 187 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: long break. We're gonna come back. We're gonna talk about 188 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: the American League MVP Award, and then we're gonna take 189 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: another break, and then we're gonna come back and say goodbye. 190 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: That's our run, Den, So it's up to you. You 191 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: got the smoothie on your leg, you're with your kids. 192 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: We appreciate you coming along. We'd love to hear your 193 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: opinions on whether or not cal Rawley got jobbed a 194 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: little bit. You want to stay with us. 195 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can stay. 196 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: It's not a long ad. 197 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,479 Speaker 3: I mean, we don't have any sponsors doing beautiful. 198 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: Everyone stay where you are. 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He had the other guy do it. 225 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: I love. 226 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: I hear that those genes are smoothie repellent. But speaking 227 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: of big nine quarters, as Aj brought up in terms 228 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: of how jeans fit him, we had the American League 229 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: MVP award handed out and went to Aaron Judge. Dominant player. 230 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: Offensive numbers mind boggling, We get it. Cal Rowley came 231 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: in second, had sixty homers, caught third most innings of 232 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: any catcher, and I think he was the third rated 233 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: defensive catcher in the league. So my question, and we'll 234 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: start with lancel In on this one, do you think 235 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: that he that Cal might have gotten jobbed a little 236 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: bit because the catching aspect maybe didn't factor in as 237 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: much as it should have. 238 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 4: I think if you if you look at it like 239 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 4: right away, you could say, yeah, man, I thought he 240 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 4: might have gotten jobbed a little bit. And then you 241 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 4: start breaking down Aaron's numbers and what he was able 242 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 4: to accomplish this year, even with the time that he 243 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 4: missed with injury, he put up some pretty darn good 244 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 4: numbers and in a lineup that you know, really didn't 245 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 4: go without him when he was out during that time, 246 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 4: they were really not a great lineup. So he was 247 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 4: able to do a lot of things to carry that 248 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 4: lineup and made them what they were. So when you 249 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 4: really dig deep in the numbers, which that's the world 250 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 4: we live in now, No, Kyle did not get a job. 251 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 4: But when you look at what he did catching, and 252 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 4: any anybody that put up those numbers as a catcher, 253 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 4: you know, it's hard to you know, say, hey, they 254 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 4: shouldn't have won the MVP. But with the numbers Aaron 255 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 4: put up, I was surprised, to be honest with you, 256 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,599 Speaker 4: But when I deep down dive on the numbers, it 257 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 4: was like, okay, he had he had a heck of 258 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 4: a year. 259 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, offensively. There's no question I think Kyle that Aaron 260 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: Juck had had the better season. But you take into 261 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: account the importance of a catcher and as a pitcher, 262 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: you know all about that, Yeah, I mean one, And I. 263 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: Think it's important to see the difference in the MVP voting, right, 264 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: you know, show Hey was unanimous over a DH and 265 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber. Show Hay was a DH for most year 266 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: and then he made some you know, he made starts 267 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: down the stretch, which I think, you know, really made 268 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: him the unanimous decision. But this was what sixty forty 269 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: split on this voting, So it's not like it was 270 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: a unanimous for Judge. I mean, he's two votes away, 271 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: a two vote swing from it being fifty to fifty 272 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: you know, first place votes. So I think it was 273 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: a close vote, which is how it should have been. 274 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: But I mean, I think, you know, we talked about 275 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: cal being the one making history, which he did. Aaron 276 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: Judge was like one of four players to do you know, 277 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: this statistic for the year, one of three players ever 278 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: to do this statistic on the year. Like, he had 279 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: multiple areas where he also made history this year. So 280 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: I just hesitate to say that you know a catcher, 281 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: she either always win it or a DH should never 282 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: win it, because even though Aaron Judge, you know, DH 283 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: for most of the year because of some health stuff, 284 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: he's still probably we impacted the game, uh, just as 285 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: much or more than cal Rawley did. So if we 286 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: can't give it to d HS, then you know, Kyle 287 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: Schwarber never should have gotten all the second place votes, 288 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: is how I look at it. But I think you're 289 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: looking for the most all around best player, and Aaron Judge, 290 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: with what he did offensively, probably put himself, you know, 291 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: just a little bit above cal. 292 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: What do you think, man, Yeah, I mean, I think 293 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 3: when you look at overall, like if you dive in, 294 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 3: like Lan said, on the offensive numbers, like Aaron's season 295 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: was historically like one of the greatest seasons of all 296 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: time offensively on some of the numbers that that if 297 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 3: you look a little closer, you know, like if you 298 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 3: compare some of the those numbers to cal Rawlely, he 299 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: I mean, he out hit him by so far that. 300 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: It'd be it'd be tough. 301 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 3: Like I look, I I give a lot of credit 302 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 3: for catching and catching that much, but I just don't 303 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: think I look and I and and people say there's 304 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 3: no East coast bias. There's one hundred percent in East 305 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: Coast bias. 306 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: So if cal. 307 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: Rawly was playing for the Yankees and Aaron Judge was playing, 308 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: uh for the Mariners, I think I think it probably 309 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 3: would have gone the other way. 310 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: But I mean, look, Aaron. Aaron is a good friend 311 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: of mine. 312 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: I love Aaron. 313 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: He's he impacts the game like he is. He's the 314 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: most valuable outside of show. Hey, he's the most valuable 315 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: player in baseball. And so I think the right guy 316 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: got it. But like I said, I think if he 317 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: if cal Rawley was catching every day for the Yankees 318 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 3: and Aaron Judge was playing for the Mariners, I think 319 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 3: cal Rawly would have been the MVP. 320 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: Do you think they ought to include postseason stats in 321 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: that or do you like it the way it is? 322 00:16:59,520 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: I don't really. 323 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: I think it's a postseason award. I mean, I think 324 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 3: I think it's a regular season award. 325 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: They give MVPs. 326 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: You on board with that too, Yeah, Yeah, I agree, 327 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 2: I think it's just MVP for the season. 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Listen, he's nice, 373 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: very nice, beautiful. Let's talk. Yeah, it's beautiful. Let's talk 374 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals for a second. JJ Weatherholt Okay, is the guy 375 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: everyone has talked about this seat. Okay, Uh, one of 376 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: the young guys that should be featured. You would think 377 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: this year. Are we all on board that he's the 378 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: guy that the Cardinals as much as anyone, are kind 379 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: of banking their hopes on it. I'll start with you Lance, Yeah. 380 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 4: I mean I think you're looking at uh, you know, 381 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 4: their their farm system and what they've got going on, 382 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 4: what he did last year age wise, and he fits 383 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 4: what they're trying to do. So I think if you 384 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 4: don't start him at the big leagues, it's kind of like, Hey, 385 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 4: you just told us that you're gonna go this youth 386 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 4: movement and do all this, and a guy that should 387 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 4: be one of your maybe corner zones, middle pieces or whatever, 388 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 4: it's not here. So I think you look at him 389 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 4: as a as a second baseman with him and with 390 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 4: him and Mason went up the middle, and then you know, 391 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 4: and then you can kind of go around that and 392 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 4: see what you want to do this year. I think 393 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 4: you think he's a good fit at second base too, 394 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 4: because his hit he's going to be above average second basement, 395 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 4: and he's going to his hit tool is going to 396 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 4: make him an all star caliber second basement. I think 397 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 4: if you try to move him to third or something 398 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 4: like that, the power maybe not might not be there 399 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 4: or something like that, but you put him at his 400 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,479 Speaker 4: best defensive position and go let him play. And if 401 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 4: that's second base, I think that actually makes him above 402 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 4: average player all around, the all around at second base. 403 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 4: So with him and Mason up the middle, I think 404 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 4: it's a hey, let him, let him go play and 405 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 4: see where we're at around him. 406 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: Last year he had a monster year at a couple 407 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: of levels, but at triple A three fourteen batting average, 408 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: ten homers, just one hundred and eighty five at BETCH 409 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: nine seventy eight ops. But Kyle, do you agree second 410 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: base is probably the best position or does it not 411 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: matter and you try to mix and match. 412 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, I think you know this would uh, 413 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: this would also be a great question for Jackson right, 414 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: you know, went through that a little bit, kind of 415 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 2: shifting from short to second and kind of doing that. 416 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 2: But I think as long as he's playing second base 417 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: in the minor leagues and he's you know, he's prepared 418 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 2: for that, then I think that's a great thing to do. 419 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: I also don't think I would give up on him 420 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: playing shortstop. I think the days that you give Mason 421 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: a break, you know, maybe you shift JJ over there, 422 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: and then you find other days to give JJ a break. 423 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: But I mean, I think we heard from Jackson earlier 424 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: about the value in getting consistent of bats and the 425 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: value of being able to struggle at times, and then 426 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: watching him slow the game down and really kind of 427 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 2: feel what that success is going to look like when 428 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: it's sustained and he kind of gets his speed wet 429 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 2: and figures out the hitter that he is at the 430 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 2: big leagues. I think JJ can go through that same progression. 431 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: And I don't necessarily think we should say this is 432 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: who they're staking their future on. I don't think that's 433 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 2: good for any player to necessarily have, you know, that 434 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: attached to him. I think there's a lot of good 435 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 2: players and a lot of good things that need to 436 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 2: go right for the Cardinals to have this sustained success 437 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 2: going forward. But yeah, I think JJ Weatherhill probably expects 438 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: to be a big piece of that, and I think 439 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: the Cardinals should expect him to be a big piece 440 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: of that. 441 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: Now, Matt, your son, Jackson had, as Cal mentioned some 442 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: of the you know that pressure put on him, and 443 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: I was being a top pick and kind of moved 444 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: along quickly. How much pressure is it, you know, you 445 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: you dealt with your son during that period. 446 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I certainly think that their pressure comes 447 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: with that, But I also think that, you know, we're 448 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 3: constantly training young players to control what they can control. 449 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 3: He can't control how much pressure, how much expectations, or 450 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: you know, what people think or what people expect. All 451 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 3: he can do is keep getting better, keep working, keep training, 452 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 3: keep practicing, keep you know, whatever position they play him at, 453 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: keep working at short, keep working at second, work at third. 454 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 3: The idea is to play in the major leagues and 455 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 3: to play well and to play for a long time. 456 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 3: And the more positions you can play at a high level, 457 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 3: the better chance you have of being in the lineup 458 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 3: every day. And I think that's what players want. I mean, 459 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 3: I think he would say, put me wherever you want. 460 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 3: As long as I'm in the lineup, that's where I 461 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 3: want to be. So I think it's smart for him 462 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 3: to train and not worry about the outside expectations. And 463 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: sometimes that's easier said than done, but I certainly think that, 464 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 3: you know, as we continue, you know, with the social 465 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 3: media and all the things that go into this, to 466 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 3: teaching young players how to focus on things that they 467 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 3: can control, and to block out the outside noise, to 468 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 3: get off social media, to not ride the highs and 469 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 3: lows of other people's opinions and just get back to 470 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 3: work and just you know, if you love the practice 471 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 3: of it, if you love to get out there and compete, 472 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 3: focus on those things. And I think that that's something 473 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 3: that frees you up as a player to go out 474 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 3: and play without this heaviness of expectation, or this heaviness 475 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 3: of what other people think about you, or what you 476 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 3: should or shouldn't be, or how good you should be. 477 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 3: Just go out there and play and compete like you 478 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 3: have since you were twelve. And he's got he's got 479 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 3: tons of talent, and I think he's gonna be in 480 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 3: the big leagues. And I think it's interesting because if 481 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 3: he's ready to play second base, I think it opens 482 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 3: up the Cardinals the option. I keep reading that there 483 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 3: are a lot of teams are interested in Donovan. And 484 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 3: if you can go out and get a really good 485 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 3: player for Brendan Donovan and play weather Hold at second 486 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: to make your team that much closer to a playoff 487 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 3: slash World Series. 488 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: Contender, then you know that that's a value. 489 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 3: And so I just think for young players more and 490 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 3: more now than ever, is to keep your circle tight 491 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: and and just go out there and play and not 492 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 3: worry about what everybody else thinks. 493 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: Lance, how did you learn to block out the exterior noise? No, 494 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: just don't listen. 495 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 4: It's that simple, right. I was as hard of hearing anyways, 496 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 4: as as Matt and Kyle know as being my teammate. 497 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 4: So that was my. 498 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: Way of doing it. 499 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 4: People that aren't in the clubhouse, aren't with you every day, 500 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 4: aren't on the field with you. They don't matter, So 501 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 4: don't pay attention to them. You know, be where you're 502 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 4: supposed to be, be with who you're supposed to be with, 503 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 4: and you know, do what you have to do to 504 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 4: make the people around you better and help you help 505 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 4: your team win and everything else to take care of itself. 506 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: kN Let me ask you this. You're the cardinal organization. 507 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: You were there, so you know the lay of the land. 508 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: A little bit right, bad season or not a great season. 509 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: New president of baseball ops and they're talking about the future. 510 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: Fans didn't turn out last year. What do you think 511 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: the reaction would be if weather Hold was not on 512 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: the major league roster this year? 513 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I I don't know. I think it kind 514 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: of goes back to what Lance just said. Obviously, you know, 515 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 2: the players on the field play the game for the 516 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: fans and for whatever motivates them. Right, you know, we're 517 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 2: out there trying to do our best and put on 518 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: show and entertain People in the front office are not 519 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: there for that same thing. They are there to run 520 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: a team how they see fit to run a team. 521 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: And just like Lance says, you know, taking advice and 522 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 2: criticism from somebody, I was, you know, taught. If it's 523 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: somebody that I wouldn't take advice from, why would I 524 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: listen to their criticism and let their words affect me. 525 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: You know, the people in the front office, whether it's 526 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: right or wrong, they're not going to listen to the fans, 527 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 2: whether JJ Wetherholt SHO is starting the big leagues or not. 528 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: Their job is to figure out what is the best 529 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 2: way to make JJ Weatherholt the best ten or fifteen 530 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 2: year Cardinal and the best player he can be long term. 531 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: And if that means getting him a few extra bats 532 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 2: or a few extra rings in a second, they're going 533 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 2: to do it. And then, you know, I think it's 534 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 2: in the Cardinals fans to trust that front office and 535 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: trust him with those decisions that he's going to make, 536 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 2: or just not worry about it. Didn't go watch the 537 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 2: game or watch on TV and enjoy the other great 538 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: players that are gonna play, because there's gonna be a 539 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: lot of good players out there. 540 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: Smartest panel in the Baseball podcast universe. You guys were 541 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: great today, Matt. Thank you for having your sons Jackson 542 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: Ethan making a cameo. We appreciate that. We also appreciate 543 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: you battling through the spilled smoothie gentleman. Thanks for the time. 544 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: We look forward to doing it again. That will do 545 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: it for this edition of Cardinal Territory. We'll see you 546 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: next time and hopefully that episode won't suck