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Speaker 2: he was up at two am this morning to watch

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Speaker 2: that Women's World Cup match against Sweden, and you know,

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Speaker 2: to sit through one hundred and twenty minutes of nothing

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Speaker 2: right now, Rich, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yep, you nailed it. That is exactly why I'm groggy.

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Speaker 3: It had nothing to do with rooting for my favorite boxer,

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Speaker 3: Jake Paul taking on an MMA fighter in a boxing

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Speaker 3: competition last night.

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Speaker 1: On paper.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a thirty eight year old MMA fighter making

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Speaker 3: But go ahead, I'm retired making his boxing debut and

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Speaker 3: let me let me tell you so I did not

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Speaker 3: watch the women's national team. Shockingly, now, I did watch, though,

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Speaker 3: the Jake Paul fight, and our society has had a

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Speaker 3: gat a weird direction because that is going to obviously

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Speaker 3: gross the promotions companies that that put on the fight

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Speaker 3: a lot of money, and and those two names are

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Speaker 3: are obviously carry waiting ideas in the MMA world, Jake

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Speaker 3: troll in our time now.

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Speaker 1: But that was that was a sweaty pillow fight.

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Speaker 3: That was one of the worst boxing events, or I

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Speaker 3: shouldn't even say boxing events, because some of the undercards

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Speaker 3: were actually pretty good. But that was the worst title

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Speaker 3: fight or whatever you want to call it, prize match,

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Speaker 3: whatever it is, exhibition I've ever watched in my entire life.

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Speaker 3: It had no juice. Nat Diez does not know how

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Speaker 3: to box. He Jake Paul barely knows how to box.

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Speaker 1: It was it was a laugher from no juice finish.

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Speaker 2: All right. So I was going to bring this up

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Speaker 2: later in the show, but let's go with this right now.

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Speaker 2: Because you and I are both fans of the sweet science.

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Speaker 2: We're boxing fans, and I have been a boxing fan

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Speaker 2: my entire life. The fact that this it's it's not

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Speaker 2: even a fight. And I will say, first of all,

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Speaker 2: as far as Jake Paul's concerned, Okay, he's twenty six,

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Speaker 2: he's athletic, he is you know, he trains as a fighter.

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Speaker 2: I don't have any qualms with that. Here's the problem

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Speaker 2: be billionaires by the time they're thirty, okay, and that's

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Speaker 2: their goal. And you know, when you start off as

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Speaker 2: YouTubers and everything else and get to this level where

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Speaker 2: they generate that kind of interest, as you say, going

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Speaker 2: against a nadist who had never had a professional fight

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Speaker 2: in his life. Even as an MMA fighter, his record

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Speaker 1: Well, and yet he's a legendary MMA fighter.

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Speaker 3: But here's the deal. His game is not striking. His

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Speaker 3: game is right, he is one of the greatest jiu

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Speaker 3: jitsu players on the planets. Well, he's going to submit.

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Speaker 2: You, okay. So now, of course Jake Paul has agreed, apparently,

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Speaker 2: and then apparently they're expecting to sell out Cowboys Stadium

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Speaker 2: for an MMA match. Yeah, and Jake Paul was making

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Speaker 2: forget that, just boxing. That this match garnered more attention

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Speaker 2: than a battle of undefeated fighters for the welterweight championship. Yep,

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Speaker 2: this fight had more attention than the recent matchup of

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Speaker 2: is very sad. There was an era, as you know, Rich,

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Speaker 2: And this is what the sport has been reduced to.

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Speaker 2: The fact that you would open with your watching a

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Speaker 2: that's that's what people are watching, even if it really

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Speaker 3: This was you know what.

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Speaker 2: The next big event obviously is Elon Musk versus Zuckerberg.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna get They're gonna do some kind of MMA event. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and and in fact, Dana White said it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: the way, they're they're gonna donate to our military, which

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Speaker 2: is great, But that's what people want to see. They're

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Speaker 2: not they're not worried about the best in MMA. They're

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Speaker 2: if we could get Muskin and Zuckerberg together that now

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Speaker 1: Yeah, times have change.

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Speaker 3: We've reached the point where that's where the juice is,

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Speaker 3: that's where the interest is in the fight game. And

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Speaker 3: I think I think Dana White has done a good

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Speaker 3: Paul both when they were both boxing, Logan Paul's more

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Speaker 3: they did an amazing job of this. They they basically

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Speaker 3: social media relevant stars to people who well, frankly, now

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Speaker 3: They know them as ww superstars or or a boxer.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's the way they're being regarded now, and

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Speaker 3: that's Look, I'm fine with it, because everybody's got to

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Speaker 1: And however you do that as long as.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's getting hurt, at least unwillingly in the case of

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Speaker 3: the fight game, who cares, Because that's how the world works.

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Speaker 3: And if people are paying tickets to go see you fight,

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Speaker 3: then great, But what I watched last night.

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Speaker 1: Was was barely a fight.

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Speaker 3: Nate Diaz was in good enough shape to walk down

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Speaker 3: I guess because there's that interesting factor of seeing a

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Speaker 1: But the fight itself stunk. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, by the way, the Musk Zuckerberg match actually has

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Speaker 2: its own Wikipedia page. Oh wow, Yeah, you can go

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Speaker 2: on Wikipedia Elon Musk versus Mark Zuckerberg as a proposed

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Speaker 2: That's a Wikipedia page.

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Speaker 2: So the the combative world of the ring or the

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio MLB Insider. Now, speaking of fights, the best

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Speaker 2: fight was yesterday between the Guardians and the White Sox.

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Speaker 2: Now here's the thing. If you're Tim Anderson, Yeah, who

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Speaker 2: really was the one that you know, got himself set

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Speaker 2: to fight first, Like, apparently Anderson has been pulling some Shenanigans,

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Speaker 2: and Jose Ramirez thought that Anderson was going to sort

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Speaker 2: in baseball for quite a while. Tim Anderson has been

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Speaker 2: an All Star himself. But instead of helping Ramirez up,

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Speaker 2: Anderson decided to square up with him. Let's hear the

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Speaker 6: And another hustle double right over the bag at first.

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Speaker 6: Now Hoosey and Anderson square off.

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Speaker 3: They're fighting.

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Speaker 2: They're swinging.

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Speaker 6: Down Goes Anderson, down goes Anderson. Ramirez went in with

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Speaker 6: They came up chewing. Anderson squared off Hosey dectum. It's

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Speaker 6: a five to one Chicago lead. But everybody from the

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Speaker 2: Oh he got upset, and he delivered a right cross

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Speaker 2: That was a good call, excellent call.

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Speaker 2: Paul Morosi JP. What was interesting to me is is

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Speaker 7: We first takeaway is that we would see this a

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Speaker 7: They were losing until late. They score seven runs in

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Speaker 7: is hard to believe. It is really hard to believe.

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Speaker 7: I think, even on their brightest days, Mets fans, the

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Speaker 7: Mets fans in my life, and I've been blessed to

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Speaker 7: have many of them, tend to often wonder where the

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Speaker 7: storm calrds, where the storm storm clouds are On a

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Speaker 7: beautiful day in San Diego, for example, there's gotta be

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Speaker 7: rain coming somewhere, somewhere there's rain, and that's that's kind

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Speaker 7: of Even when Mets fans are happy, that's what they see.

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Speaker 7: And so you can only imagine rich. You know, if

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Speaker 7: you've got a Mets fan in your life, please call

445
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Speaker 7: them today and offered a little bit of love because

446
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Speaker 7: they need it. Right now. There's there's a lot, there's

447
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Speaker 7: a lot of concern, a lot of bewilderment. There's a

448
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 7: general belief that Steve Cohen will keep investing in the

449
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Speaker 7: team until he has a winner. And that's great. That's

450
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Speaker 7: a wonderful thing to have as an ambition for your team.

451
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Speaker 7: But we have to realize that, especially in baseball over

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Speaker 7: the Big one sixty two, you cannot buy culture. You can't.

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Speaker 7: You have to have some level of development from within.

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Speaker 7: There are the exceptions to that rule in general, but

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Speaker 7: you look around the history of the game and teams

456
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Speaker 7: that not just winning one championship but doing it multiple years,

457
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Speaker 7: year after year after year. There's almost always a homegrown

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Speaker 7: quality to what you're doing, and if not originally drafting players,

459
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Speaker 7: bringing them in when they're young, and raising them in

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Speaker 7: your culture, and the Mets are seeing right now, guys.

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Speaker 7: The folly in that thinking is that when you bring

462
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Speaker 7: in nothing but expensive veteran players who are around forty

463
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Speaker 7: years old, it's you lose the depth of your organization.

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Speaker 7: And they haven't even signed their one guy internally, Pete

465
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Speaker 7: Alonso is not even sign long term, so they've got

466
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Speaker 7: more work to do. My friends, it is going to

467
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Speaker 7: be a tough tough time in Flushing Queens for the

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Speaker 7: foreseeable future.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, JP you're going to see Rich tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I have been permanently banned from PECO because I did

471
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Speaker 2: move back up to the Los Angeles area, and so yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: I was banned, and you know the I understand it.

473
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: I would have to pay double just to get a

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Speaker 2: regular ticket Tobacco if I were to see out there.

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Speaker 2: But Rich'll be out there in full force. Enjoy the game,

476
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Speaker 2: JP or the absolute best. We'll do it again next week.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 7: Sounds good, gentlemen. I'll be fully prepared. But we'll chat

479
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Speaker 7: a little. And now this is the other great thing.

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Speaker 7: Now that the Big ten was from sea to Shining Sea,

481
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 7: we'll be able to talk about I mean, you're in

482
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Speaker 7: the heart of Big ten country, our friends up in Seattle,

483
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Speaker 7: in the heart of Big ten country, East Brunswick, New Jersey,

484
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Speaker 7: College Park, Maryland. You're all part of the family, my friends.

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Speaker 6: I love it. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll be talking about those Michigan UCLA matchups

487
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Speaker 2: in the future.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 2: He is the great John Palmer ROSI are Fox Sports

490
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Speaker 2: Radio MLB insider. So you're gonna have to see him

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Speaker 2: Rich without me, obviously, Yeah, I got it.

492
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay.

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Speaker 2: I have been banned. I certainly will never see that

494
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Speaker 2: press box again. That who is Fartia. Let's be honest,

495
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Speaker 2: it was, and a lot of dogs I ate up there,

496
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Speaker 2: a lot of dogs over the years. Let's find out

497
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Speaker 2: what it's trending right now. Some of that has an

498
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Speaker 2: open door anywhere she goes, and that would be Mansey Belano.

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Speaker 2: So Mansi, you're the kind of person is so respected

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Speaker 2: in this business. Just a hint that you might be

501
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Speaker 2: interested in attending a sporting event at any venue in

502
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Speaker 2: this country and the door swings wide open.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 8: I'd like to think that, but I familiarly have to

505
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Speaker 8: catch up to all the venues you two have probably

506
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Speaker 8: been to.

507
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Speaker 9: Also, if you have to pay double, you can afford it.

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Speaker 9: You can go.

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Speaker 1: It's true, it's Papa Steve Afford.

510
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Speaker 3: Anything. You could do it.

511
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Speaker 2: You know, in theory, I could exactly that. In reality,

512
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Speaker 2: it's a much different story.

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Speaker 9: You said you had a lot of hot dogs.

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Speaker 2: At pet coc you know, So here was the deal.

515
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Speaker 2: So Rich and I would go to Paco up in

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Speaker 2: the press.

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Speaker 9: Box talked about food.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the only reason, honestly we would go to

519
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Speaker 2: the press, especially before they started spending all this money.

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Speaker 2: I mean there was crickets. I mean, there was nobody

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Speaker 2: at pack up, but they have outstanding press box hot

522
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Speaker 2: dogs okay, so good, really good. I mean steamed buns

523
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Speaker 2: and the you know, the rotisseri and the dogs. And

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Speaker 2: the key though was the chili. Oh so they had

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Speaker 2: chili that I could sort of you know a mai.

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Speaker 1: They did it the right.

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Speaker 8: Way, which why.

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Speaker 2: But the problem was then here you go, Steve, I'll

529
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Speaker 2: sure the shutdown, you know, with the COVID they stopped

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Speaker 2: serving chili in the breast box.

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Speaker 1: The COVID took our chili was the worst part of

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Speaker 1: the pandemic.

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Speaker 3: Arguably, that's so rude.

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Speaker 2: And I just but the last time I went, which

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Speaker 2: was last season, go on, I did have the chili.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, So here's the way, you know, you're

537
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Speaker 3: dealing with good hot what is it? So like Normally

538
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Speaker 3: a chili can be a little bit looser, you know

539
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Speaker 3: what I mean, Like it can be not soupy. You

540
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Speaker 3: never want soupy chili, but like you know, they're they're

541
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Speaker 3: the texture of the consistency can be a little bit

542
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Speaker 3: more loose. Yes, with hot dog chili, it's gotta be tight, yeah,

543
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Speaker 3: it'd be like you're spackling that hot dog.

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Speaker 2: Right, It's like it's almost like mustard in the sense

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Speaker 2: of it spreads all right, right.

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Speaker 9: I hear that. I understand that.

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Speaker 3: And then it doesn't soak your bun. You got yourself

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Speaker 3: a good layer. Like that's the kind of chili they

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Speaker 3: had in the press box, and it was it was

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Speaker 3: some of the best days of our life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really was. And then of course you get

552
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Speaker 2: to get the nachos, right, yeah, right, yeah, So we

553
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Speaker 2: did a lot of damage there.

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Speaker 9: I'm super boring.

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Speaker 8: I was just at the Dodger game and I had

556
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Speaker 8: two veggie dogs with nothing on them.

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Speaker 9: Nothing. Wow, just playing just so you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I less well, I'm not mad. I feel so

559
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Speaker 1: sad right now.

560
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Speaker 2: I had a Glizzie in my mouth.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Rob you.

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Speaker 8: Oh that's so funny. Well, let's talk about baseball. It's

563
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Speaker 8: gonna be a fun end of the season here, guys.

564
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Speaker 8: The White Sox and the Guardians going at it.

565
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Speaker 9: Not like last night.

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Speaker 8: The Guardians have just taken the lead. They were down.

567
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Speaker 8: It is now Cleveland up three to two. They're hosting

568
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Speaker 8: the White Sox bottom of the six inning. Cleveland is

569
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Speaker 8: three and a half games behind Minnesota for the top

570
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Speaker 8: spot in the ALE Central.

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Speaker 9: There's seven and a half.

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Speaker 8: Games out of the final wild card spot in the AL,

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Speaker 8: so they're definitely trying to get in there.

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Speaker 9: Race.

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Speaker 8: Starter Tyler glassnow has been scratched from today's game they're

576
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Speaker 8: taking on the Tigers. Apparently he had back spasms happening

577
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Speaker 8: last night, so they've taken him out.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 8: The women's national team has been eliminated from the World

580
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Speaker 8: Cup in the round of sixteen, losing to Sweden five

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Speaker 8: to four in a penalty shootout after extra time finished scoreless.

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Speaker 8: This is the earliest exit from the US team in

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Speaker 8: Women's World Cup history. Defender Julie Ertz announced her retirement

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Speaker 8: from international soccer following this heartbreaking loss. This is according

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Speaker 8: to ESPN. Alex Morgan says she's not planning to hang

586
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Speaker 8: up her boots anytime soon, so good news there. And

587
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 8: the Buffalo Bills have activated defensive tackle Jordan Phillips off

588
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Speaker 8: the physically unable to perform lists.

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Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, mon stee, thank you

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Speaker 2: very very very tod o man same. That sounds so

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Speaker 2: good right now. By the way, we were brought to

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Speaker 2: save at Progressive dot com. We have a very short

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Speaker 2: segment here, so this is the perfect time to get

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Speaker 2: the Women's World Cup out of the way, so we

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Speaker 2: don't have to worry about the rest of the show.

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Speaker 1: So here, here, here, here.

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Speaker 2: Here's the bottom line. I remember years ago when the

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Speaker 2: women lost the World Cup to Japan. It was a

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Speaker 2: big upset. See if I remember what year that was,

603
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Speaker 2: that was that was in let's see here. It was up, up, up,

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Speaker 2: up about twenty eleven, and I remember it was a

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Speaker 2: huge upset at the time. Japan, by the way, now

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Speaker 2: is a force, but it was a huge upset at

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Speaker 2: the time. And I was critical of the women, saying

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Speaker 2: that you know, wow, I mean, that's a choke job.

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Speaker 2: There's no way you lose that final to Japan. And

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Speaker 2: I was hammered, like you like, you can't be critical

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Speaker 2: of women losing in sports, And I'm like, what the

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Speaker 2: hell are you talking about? If this was like the

613
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Speaker 2: undefeated Patriots losing to the Giants in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: The Patriots are raked over the coals for that loss.

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00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, how do you lose to an inferior team?

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Speaker 2: They got skewed. What's the difference? There is no difference,

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Speaker 2: and there should be no difference. So let's call what

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Speaker 2: happened today and really in this World Cup for what

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Speaker 2: it is. It was a catastrophe for Team US today.

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Speaker 2: They'd never finished lower than third in any other World

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Speaker 2: Cup and they go out in the round of sixteen

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Speaker 2: and played miserable throughout this tournament. I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to sugarcoat this. Call it for what

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, Mega Repino was on than one

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Speaker 2: of our great players. She's like laughing she had a

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Speaker 2: penalty kick. Anyone came down a penalty kick today she

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Speaker 2: airmailed it. I mean it wasn't even close. Well, look

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Speaker 2: if she's laughing as she's walking off the field, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: can you imagine, you know, like someone laughing on the

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Speaker 2: field after failing in the clutch like that. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: I call it for what it is. It was a

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Speaker 2: catastrophe for Team US.

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Speaker 3: Say well, I mean, listen, I I've dealt with failure

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Speaker 3: my whole life. And sometimes sometimes the way it expresses

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Speaker 3: itself within you, and obviously you're not always completely in

638
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Speaker 3: control as your in control of your emotions. Sometimes it

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00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: expresses itself as laughter, like because really the the emotion

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Speaker 3: you're feeling is astonishment. And sometimes when you're playing so poorly,

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Speaker 3: and then also not only are you playing so poorly,

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Speaker 3: but as a team you're playing so poorly, you're you're

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Speaker 3: you're almost it's almost funny, like in a sick, dark way,

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Speaker 3: like it's almost like this is I mean, if I

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Speaker 3: don't laugh, I'll cry because this is astonishing how bad

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Speaker 3: we're And that's I think the emotion that was being

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00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 3: portrayed there. And and and to say that the women's

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Speaker 3: national team shouldn't be criticized the way men's sports should be,

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Speaker 3: I agree with you. I think that's very silly because

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Speaker 3: obviously the search for quality continues in women's sports, you know,

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Speaker 3: by comparison to men's sports, and so we don't need

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Speaker 3: to go further down that rabbit hole. But yeah, they

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Speaker 3: they played poorly. They deserve criticism. And I'm sure if

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Speaker 3: you go and listen to any of the interviews coming

655
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 3: out of that locker room after that loss and knowing

656
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Speaker 3: that they're going home from the World Cup. I'm sure

657
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 3: every last one of them will tell you the same thing.

658
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: They didn't show up for this one, and that's that's

659
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: unfortunately an embarrassment for the team, and and they're gonna

660
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 3: have to put the pieces back together over these years

661
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: now waiting for the next World Cup.

662
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Speaker 2: We're bad losers when we when we have something that

663
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: we have a grasp of men's basketball in the Olympics,

664
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Speaker 2: like we owned the sport, we created the sport, we

665
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: invented the sport, and we lose. No, no, not acceptable.

666
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 2: So back to square one. As far as our women's

667
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: national soccer team coming up on the other side, the

668
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame game has come and gone. So what

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Speaker 2: exactly do we do over the next three weeks as

670
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Speaker 2: far as the NFL is concerned the future of preseason football.

671
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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, Rich Harberger, Fox

672
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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. We are live from the tire rack dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios. So Rich, I sat down on Thursday. I've

674
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Speaker 2: been in Arizona for a couple of days, got back

675
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 2: in time to settle in to watch the Hall of

676
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 2: Fame game matchup between the Jets and the Browns, and

677
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: you know me, I'm into the Hall of Fame. So

678
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: I don't know if you got to see any of

679
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 2: the speeches yesterday. I thought, overall, considering how many you know,

680
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: inductees there were, there were nine, little too many. But

681
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: I thought the speeches by and large were good. But

682
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: you know, the game itself, there was a bunch of

683
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: nobody's on the field, and you know, it's you know, like, okay,

684
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 2: I'm seeing live NFL action, right, I'm ready for the season.

685
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: And then I look at the calendar and I realize

686
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: that opening game between the Chiefs and the Lions is

687
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: still more than a month away. Like pre season football.

688
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: I mean, the Hall of Fame games one thing. But

689
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: now we got three full weeks pre season football. At

690
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: least the last week we'll have week zero of the

691
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: college football season. We don't have a lot of great matchups,

692
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 2: but at least it'll be I don't know, games that

693
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: mean something. How much long are we going to put

694
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 2: up with this charade of preseason football? I mean, it

695
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: just it just it seems so archaic. We want something

696
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: of substance. The idea of having these empty football games.

697
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: They have zero bearing on anything. Passing them off is

698
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: some kind of you know, NFL treat kidding me, Yeah,

699
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: can we just eliminate this garbage?

700
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Speaker 3: Well, you know what was actually interesting I realized it

701
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 3: about myself is I, as a former player, have made

702
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 3: the transition to fan because I was legitimately excited that

703
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 3: the NFL was back, and I was excited to see

704
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: real football being played for the first time, and I

705
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 3: had to retrain my brain that what I'm watching right

706
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 3: now is not real football. That a large majority of

707
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: these gentlemen out there on the football field, they're probably

708
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 3: going to be selling insurance or you know, going back

709
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 3: home and working a different job because football at this

710
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: level isn't for them, or you know, going to the

711
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 3: XFL or the USFL. You know. The point, the point

712
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: being is, yeah, we're still miles from home here for

713
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 3: the regular season, and yeah, we're we're looking at something

714
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 3: that that is kind of.

715
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: Obsolete at this point.

716
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Speaker 3: We know from the pandemic that without training camp the

717
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 3: product can look very similar to the same as it

718
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: does without training camp. These guys stay in shape all

719
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: year round. Nobody needs to play in shape. If you

720
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: had a week of practice for each thirty two teams

721
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 3: and then you had a season. You would still have

722
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: the NFL. And that is that is the sad truth

723
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Speaker 3: of what we go through for this month.

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Speaker 2: Well again, risk reward, Yeah, and there's that time. I

725
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 2: mean risk reward, there's no reward. Look at it when

726
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: when you look at rosters of NFL teams, I got

727
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: news for people out there. Injuries can change the dynamic.

728
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 2: Obviously you have injuries. You got to replace guys. But

729
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: mostly there may be at at the most a handful

730
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: of roster spots that are actually up for grabs. At

731
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 2: the most rosters have already been determined, salaries are being paid.

732
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 2: So but the risk way out performs the reward in

733
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: these preseason games because anybody that plays in a game

734
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Speaker 2: could get hurt.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

736
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Speaker 2: So I just it literally makes no sense why we

737
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Speaker 2: are still subject to this.

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, a bombshell on the

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Speaker 2: college sports scene. What next We'll tell you. This is

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Speaker 2: I want to go back to win you and I

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Speaker 2: got a tour of the new football stadium in San Diego.

763
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 2: This Snapdragon, this is the home of San Diego State football,

764
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Speaker 2: And this was before the stadium actually opened, and it

765
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: was right after the announcement that USC and UCLA were

766
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 2: bolting for the Big Ten. And one of the people

767
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: that we were doing this tour with is JD. Wicker,

768
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: longtime athletic director at San Diego stated, dear friend of ours.

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Speaker 2: So as our tour was ending, I was walking with

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Speaker 2: j D and I asked him about the possibility. At

771
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Speaker 2: the time, I thought the probability of San Diego State

772
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Speaker 2: leaving the Mountain West Conference to join the PAC twelve

773
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Speaker 2: with the vacancies created by the departure of USC and UCLA.

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Speaker 2: And he looked at me and said, well, first of all,

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Speaker 2: you're assuming there's even going to be a conference.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 2: That was a long time ago. And as it turned out,

778
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: he's absolutely right, because the PAC twelve is about to

779
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: become the Pack zero, or we're going to see a

780
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: merger of the PAC twelve. What remains of it the

781
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: four Stanford col Washington State, Oregon State, with what's in

782
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: the Mountain West Conference and some other schools. But when

783
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: I think about someone as myself, rich that literally has

784
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: grown up with this conference, you know, my entire life

785
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:28,959
Speaker 2: to see it collapse on Friday as it did. Completely.

786
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: Collapse is a shock to the system and not completely unexpected.

787
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: Cleifcough is getting obviously a lot of heat, but his predecessor,

788
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: Larry Scott is really the culprit behind the collapse. You

789
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: remember that the PAC ten could have been the PAC

790
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: sixteen back in the day. He had Texas, he had Texas,

791
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: A and they were all ready to come. But he

792
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 2: didn't want to concede to the Longhorn rig you know network,

793
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: you know, and just some catastrophic decisions have led to

794
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: the death of a conference that's been in existence for

795
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 2: more than a hundred years. But I guess I have

796
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 2: to take a step back and just say we sort

797
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: of predicted this, right, Like we've been talking about the

798
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 2: evolution of what has been and what will be, and

799
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 2: this was the latest jolt to the college sports scene.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, just because something is very old and have

801
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 3: been done for a very long time and baked into

802
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: the traditions doesn't mean that it's right, you know. And

803
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 3: I mean there's plenty of examples, positive or negative, over

804
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 3: the course of history that proves that point.

805
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: You know, I was saying this yesterday Steve.

806
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 3: If somebody just all of a sudden parachuted in to

807
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 3: the United States of America and they had no previous

808
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: idea of how college football was supposed to be, you know,

809
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 3: so they have any of the nostalgia that we all have.

810
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 3: They have none of the romance or connection to the rivalry.

811
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: Is they're just looking at Okay, you have college football?

812
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: Does this make sense? Is the question you ask them.

813
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: They would start looking at the conferences and realize, well,

814
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: none of these conferences really have the same number of teams,

815
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: and some of them have an odd number of teams,

816
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 3: and what's the playoff structure look like? Wait a second,

817
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 3: what exactly do conference championships get you? Wait a second,

818
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 3: why why aren't there playoffs inside of these conferences? There

819
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 3: would be more questions than answers, is my point. College

820
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 3: football is a mess, and the only reason why we're

821
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 3: accepting of it is because it's been a mess, and

822
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: it's been this way for a long time. It doesn't

823
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: mean it's a good system, though. It's not like the

824
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 3: fact that prior to having this ridiculous four game show

825
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 3: pony playoff system that we have now, we just guessed

826
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: who was the national champion is ridiculous.

827
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: No other sport does it that way.

828
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 3: The fact that we now have what seems better but

829
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: is still a farcical comedy of a playoff bracket with

830
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: only four teams invited every year to find out who's

831
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: the best in college football, we still don't know who's

832
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: the best. So my point is this, Yes, you're right,

833
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: this conference that's been standing for a century plus and

834
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 3: these teams and these rivalries and these baked in traditions

835
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 3: that we're all so used to, that's going to feel

836
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 3: odd and different and maybe even sad seeing.

837
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Speaker 1: The PAC twelve fall.

838
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 3: However, my sincere hope is whatever picture we end up

839
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Speaker 3: getting left with, whether it's like a three super conference

840
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 3: system or it's a two super conference system, I'm just

841
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 3: hoping it makes more sense because that's gonna make college

842
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 3: football even more interesting if you make a better postseason

843
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 3: out of college football.

844
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Speaker 2: All right, speaking of the post season, Rich, So, the

845
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: format for the twelve team playoff, which will begin in

846
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, was this, with the idea that you

847
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: had five power conferences, right, and then the group of five.

848
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: So you have five power conferences, group of five, So

849
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: it would be the sixth highest ranked conference champions in

850
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 2: other words, the Power five conference champions, and then one,

851
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: you know, the top ranked group of five champion to

852
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: get at least one of those teams in, and then

853
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: you have six at large bids. Well, we don't have

854
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: five power conferences anymore now, we only have four, So

855
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: you're down to the ACC, Big twelve, SEC, and the

856
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: Big Ten. The reconfiguration of what's left of the Pac

857
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: twelve plus the Mountain West plus other schools essentially will

858
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 2: be the AAC of the West. So there's the ACC,

859
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 2: and then there's the AAC, which by the way, lost

860
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: a number of teams to the Big twelve starting this year.

861
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 2: That is not a power at all. So the idea

862
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: that the AAC and whatever reconfiguration of what's left in

863
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 2: the West would each get a slot in the playoff

864
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: that can't happen. No no, no, no, no no, not at

865
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: the expense of the better teams out there. In fact,

866
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 2: I would dare say, now if I were the organizers

867
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: of this playoff, I would ignore any school that is

868
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 2: not included now in the Big twelve, the ACC, the

869
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: Big Ten, and the SEC. I'd say, screw it, We're

870
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 2: going to get our four conference champions, they will get

871
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 2: the buys and then all eight eight at large bids

872
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: are going to come out of those four conferences. Why

873
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 2: are we playing around with us?

874
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: Why?

875
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 2: Why are these schools even consider when we know they're

876
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: not on the same level? Why are they included in

877
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 2: the conversation? Eliminate them?

878
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 3: But hang on a second, Hang on a second. But

879
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 3: we do see some of those schools in the Group

880
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 3: of five coming out of the Mountwest or the MAC

881
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: or otherwise fighting their way into the playoffs.

882
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and how that going Cincinnati, that undefeated CINCINNTA they

883
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: got I get rilled.

884
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 3: I get it, But you know what, it makes it

885
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 3: more interesting to me. Now we made differ an opinion here,

886
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 3: But I like the part of the reason why I

887
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 3: like March madness is not because we're getting to see UNC, Duke,

888
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 3: UCLA hoops, and Michigan State every year in the final four.

889
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 3: Sometimes there's the Cinderella, and I think that's really cool.

890
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of fun seeing a little chaos

891
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 3: baked into college basketball because the regular season, look, it's

892
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 3: very difficult obviously, with you know, three hundred plus teams

893
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 3: to keep your eye on every corner of the United

894
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 3: States state. So the regular season most of the time,

895
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 3: if you're watching college basketball, it's just a big marquee

896
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 3: game that you know that you're being told is important

897
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 3: based on the power rankings in the sport. But unless

898
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: you have a team, you're really not following the regular season.

899
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 3: Come March Madness, all of a sudden, things start clarifying.

900
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 3: The picture starts getting a little clearer. You start understanding like, oh,

901
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 3: this team had a really good year, but they've been

902
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: down for about a decade. Oh, this team came out

903
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 3: of absolute nowhere. Oh this is one of the traditional powers,

904
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 3: like you know every year. I just mentioned four of

905
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 3: them that are going to be standing somewhere close to

906
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 3: the top when this thing ends. But who knows, maybe

907
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 3: there's upsets. I dig that, and that's what I want

908
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 3: for college football as well. I want to see sometime

909
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 3: an expansion of this current idea of twelve teams. I

910
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 3: want to see it to be I wanted to be

911
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 3: more than that. I wanted to be a representative amount

912
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 3: compared to the amount of schools are actually vying for

913
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 3: a championship. In college basketball, you have a field of

914
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 3: sixty eight that's whittled to one. But again, as I mentioned,

915
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 3: you have over three hundred teams that you're pulling from.

916
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: If you had it all one hundred twenty plus college

917
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 3: football teams vying for a national championship, I think you

918
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: should have a bracket of at least thirty two teams.

919
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: Why not?

920
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: All right? You and I are on a very different page,

921
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 2: and we talked about this any time.

922
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 3: How much fun would that be?

923
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 2: Okay, here's an.

924
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 3: Think about this, think about the bracketology college football. Steve

925
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 3: would be all we would.

926
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: Talk about for one seed versus a thirty two seed.

927
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, okay, but that's fine. But again, the

928
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: inclusion of a lot of these schools is not necessary.

929
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: They have no chance none. They might pull one miraculous upset.

930
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: But you know, the difference between the haves and have

931
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 2: nots in college football is way more pronounced than it

932
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 2: is in college basketball. I agree with you, way different.

933
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: I definitely agree with you.

934
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it would happen as often where you

935
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 3: would see Cinderella's her as often in college football than

936
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 3: college basketball.

937
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 1: However, I will say this.

938
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 3: When it's single elimination, When it's single elimination, anything can happen. No,

939
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 3: a star player can get injured, a turnover in the

940
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 3: kicking game, a defender falls down defending a deep pass,

941
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 3: and it was just a close game before that. Because

942
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 3: they played down to competition. Anything in single elimination can happen.

943
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 2: Now.

944
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 3: I'm not saying we're gonna see something like air Force

945
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: beat Alabama for the national title.

946
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: Or how about Iowa State or Iowa beating Alabama, or

947
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 2: even that Iowa.

948
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 10: Sam wants to jump in for a second here, Yes, Sam,

949
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 10: Iowa almost got to the playoff in twenty fifteen. They

950
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 10: were in line and.

951
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: They had a late season class well.

952
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 10: Then they lost by a few points to Michigan State.

953
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 10: Then they went on to play Alabama get drilled thirty five.

954
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 3: Nothing.

955
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 10: I agree with Richie or Steve. I think you got

956
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 10: to at least give people the opportunity. Even if your

957
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 10: TCU is going to go up against a Georgia and

958
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 10: that's a Power five program. They got drilled, what sixty

959
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 10: five to seven, But it's still for even the smaller

960
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 10: steel schools. You got to give them the opportunity.

961
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 2: To drop off between the power schools and the next

962
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: recruiting though.

963
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 10: You can recruit players, you can build a culture, and

964
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 10: you can. Yeah, because here's the thing, and I.

965
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: Say, the state state of Oklahoma, never forget the selling

966
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 2: point on the four school playoff was going to get

967
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 2: more teams on opportunity to win a national championship. I

968
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: said from day one, it's only going to make the

969
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: power schools more powerful because they're going to get more exposure,

970
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: which is exactly what happened. Okay, Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State

971
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 2: got I'M more powerful championship for over forty years.

972
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 3: However, how they're in power again.

973
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.

974
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: I mean, look the the that's because they're on the

975
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: the sec same thing with that LST.

976
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 3: The wheels of time turn and certain teams that are

977
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 3: at the top, they end up at the bottom and

978
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 3: vice versa. And and my point is this with name,

979
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 3: image and likeness in college, for the fact that you

980
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: now can have a strong interested alumni base elevate a

981
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 3: football or basketball program by dumping money into those programs

982
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 3: and getting better recruits means to me that all of

983
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 3: a sudden, the little guy has a little bit more

984
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 3: of a chance at breaking through. So I mean, you're

985
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 3: not seeing it yet because We've just scratched a surface

986
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 3: on name, image and likeness. But give this, give it

987
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 3: to twenty twenty five, Give this to twenty twenty seven.

988
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 3: Especially in college basketball's playoff, when we get to March Madness,

989
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 3: you're gonna start seeing some of these schools that used

990
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 3: to be out of nowhere become traditional powers because they're

991
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 3: able to recruit like the big boys are. They're able

992
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 3: to start spending some of that money on bringing recruits in.

993
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 3: Because look, as much as everybody wants to go to

994
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 3: Duke or UNC or UCLA or Michigan State or some

995
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 3: of these other powers around the country Kentucky, and they

996
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 3: want to be treated lavishly in the locker rooms. You

997
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 3: know what also talks money. So if you're gonna go

998
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 3: and play at one of these smaller schools, but you're

999
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 3: gonna bring home a couple of five hundred thousand dollars

1000
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 3: a year to help your family out or to help

1001
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 3: you out to set yourself up for the rest of

1002
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 3: your life, man, you might consider going to that little school.

1003
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 3: So I'm telling you, I think name, image and likeness,

1004
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 3: on top of everything else. We just talked about the

1005
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 3: re scrambling of the Jets, and college football. It's gonna

1006
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 3: open this thing wide open.

1007
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: But what we are seeing with the Big Ten now

1008
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 2: up to eighteen schools, they're gobbling up everybody. The bigger

1009
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 2: conferences are getting bigger, which is making it the middle

1010
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: class has been eliminated. But you could the rich the

1011
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 2: begetting richer, which is why USC, in a desperate effort

1012
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 2: to get back to relativity in terms of national championships

1013
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 2: in college football, has jumped on the money in the

1014
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 2: Big Ten. The more money you have, the more money

1015
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: you can hand out and name, image and likeness.

1016
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 3: Saying like Rutgers is in the Big Ten, pit is

1017
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 3: in the ACC, Vanderbilts in the SEC.

1018
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: Like there are bad teams in these conferences.

1019
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 2: Yeah Nebraska is a bad team.

1020
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 3: Yeah Nebraska Northwestern Like they're I mean, they've been got

1021
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 3: to stay bad, but oh yeah, now they are. But

1022
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 3: the point I'm trying to make is like it's it's

1023
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 3: also look, there's quality issues. You always want to try

1024
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 3: to the first ones through the door need to be quality.

1025
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 3: So USC ucla huge media market and a traditional power

1026
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 3: in college football. With the Trojans, you bring them in Okay, Oregon, Washington,

1027
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 3: like some of these teams obviously have been relevant for

1028
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 3: many years prior to their induction to this new car

1029
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 3: or to their their induction to the conference. But when

1030
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 3: you think about it, these other teams, these these these

1031
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 3: teams in the MAC or the UH or in the

1032
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 3: Mountain West or you know, you're going to have to

1033
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 3: absorb some of them too, because guess what, once you

1034
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 3: get done with the cream of the crop, there's gonna

1035
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 3: be battle over the rest of them. I really feel

1036
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 3: like that's where this is trending, all these teams, and

1037
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 3: maybe it's gonna be the top half of these group

1038
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 3: of five conferences. You're not gonna see maybe New Mexico

1039
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 3: get absorbed immediately or at all, but some of the

1040
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 3: Boise States or the Fresno States or the San Diego

1041
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 3: States of the world, I could see them getting absorbed

1042
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 3: by the Big twelve or the Big ten as they

1043
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 3: make West coast expansion. I could see that happening all right.

1044
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 2: Well, on the other side, we'll get a little deeper

1045
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: into this. There's also one very unexplained aspect of this

1046
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 2: twelve school playoff. We'll explain. This is Fox Sports Sunday

1047
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 2: Steve Harvey, Rich Ronberg or Fox Sports. Sunday, we are

1048
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: live from the entire IRAQ dot com studios talking about

1049
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: the ever changing landscape of college sports and certainly a

1050
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 2: bombshell on Friday with a complete disintegration of the PAC twelve.

1051
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: We mentioned now with only four power conferences, they may

1052
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 2: want to reformat the college Football Playoff, which will expand

1053
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 2: to twelve schools starting in twenty twenty four. Still unexplained

1054
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: to me, and they've made it clear this is the case.

1055
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: So you could have a regular season in which Notre

1056
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: Dame post a perfect twelve to zero record is number

1057
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 2: one in the country, the top four power conference champions

1058
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: all have a loss, and Notre Dame has no chance

1059
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 2: of being in the top four seats. The highest seed

1060
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: they can be is a five. No matter what they're ranking,

1061
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 2: no matter what their record, they can never get a

1062
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 2: first round by because they will be held down exclusively

1063
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 2: by the four highest ranked conference champions.

1064
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: And why is that, Steve.

1065
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 3: Money. The reason why is because the networks are going

1066
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 3: to make so much more money off of the Big

1067
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 3: Ten cumulatively then they will off of Notre Dame that

1068
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 3: they are not going to be afraid to I guess

1069
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 3: in this case we would call it penalize Notre Dame

1070
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 3: for being independent, because if they're not interested in strengthening

1071
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 3: one of these power conferences, well then they're going to

1072
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 3: have to, unfortunately at best, play for fifth place in

1073
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 3: the seeding. Assuming like you were just pointing out that

1074
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 3: these other conference champions don't have more than I would

1075
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 3: assume one loss, but it would matter if they're conference champions.

1076
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 3: They could be a two loss conference champion, it doesn't matter.

1077
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 3: They're going to be ahead of Notre Dame. So them's

1078
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 3: the breaks, because again, nobody's hiding anymore.

1079
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: Deon Sanders said it perfect.

1080
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 3: He was interviewed about the Colorado bailing on the Back

1081
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 3: twelve going to the Big twelve, and he goes, yeah.

1082
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 3: He was like, the same teams are complaining about this,

1083
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 3: they're about to leave two. He was like, I mean,

1084
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 3: this is about money. Everybody knows what this is about.

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01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 3: And he's one hundred percent right.

1086
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: All right, let me tell them for a second.

1087
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what's fair. It's just what makes these

1088
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 3: conferences and these networks the most money.

1089
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 2: Okay, So the numbers that we are thrown out, for instance,

1090
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 2: So the way this all came down on Friday, Kleakov

1091
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 2: came in with this Apple plus deal that we get

1092
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 2: each school about twenty million dollars a year, I mean

1093
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 2: just alone for Washington and Oregon. Immediately bolting the Big Ten.

1094
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: Even though they're not gonna they're gonna get half of

1095
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 2: what they'll get down the road, it was still in

1096
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 2: excess of thirty million dollars. Correct, that's their they're buying fee.

1097
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 2: So let's talk about Notre Dame for a second here.

1098
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 2: So Notre Dame has a couple of years left in

1099
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 2: their contract and they got what at the time was

1100
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 2: a sweetheart deal of twenty six million annually. Well, twenty

1101
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 2: six million annually puts them at the low end now

1102
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 2: when you look at some of the money being thrown

1103
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 2: around in the Big Ten and the sec. So they

1104
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 2: think that Notre Dame, when this current deal ends with NBC,

1105
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 2: could get a deal in which they get sixty million

1106
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: per who to be on par of what the Big

1107
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,479
Speaker 2: Ten is going to be handing out. The Michigan's, Ohio

1108
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 2: State's USC's out there, but they're not guaranteeing it's going

1109
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 2: to go to NBC. So let me ask you this.

1110
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 2: You're a television executive and you are thrown the opportunity

1111
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: to pick up Notre Dame football at the price tag

1112
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 2: of sixty million per year? Are you interested at sixty mil?

1113
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 2: That's what they're looking for to put them on par

1114
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 2: with what the top schools are getting in the Big

1115
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:46,439
Speaker 2: Ten deal.

1116
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 3: Here's my thought process with all of this is you

1117
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 3: got to look where the leverage is. Does Notre Dame

1118
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 3: have more leverage than any of these teams in the

1119
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 3: Big Ten terms of bargaining power?

1120
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 2: Do they?

1121
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

1122
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 3: I mean, does Notre Dame have any more bargaining power

1123
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 3: than any of these teams in the SEC?

1124
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 2: They think they do. Obviously they're expecting sixty million in

1125
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 2: their next deal.

1126
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 3: Well, I'm telling you that may be possible, right, it

1127
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 3: may be. But I really do feel as the Big

1128
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 3: Ten and the SEC continue to add better and bigger programs,

1129
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 3: and they have both of them obviously with Oklahoma and

1130
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 3: Texas joining the SEC and what we've seen the Big

1131
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 3: Ten do out West Western expansion, I believe fullheartedly that

1132
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 3: when the Big Ten and the SEC go back and

1133
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 3: renegotiate their contracts after this ten years, they're gonna blow

1134
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 3: the doors off of any independent can get, even one

1135
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 3: is with a built in audience like Notre Dame.

1136
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 2: I agree with you, and so again, if they're not

1137
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: afforded that kind of money, that really puts them. Not

1138
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 2: only are are they getting penalized because of their independent

1139
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 2: status in terms of the playoff, but they're also going

1140
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 2: to get penalized in terms of the money coming in.

1141
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 2: I mean, this was the selling point of Notre Dame

1142
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 2: was they were bringing in more money than any individual school.

1143
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 2: They're not even close.

1144
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: Strength to numbers.

1145
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 3: So I mean, listen, you may have an overwhelming like

1146
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 3: if we're gonna put this in war terms military terms,

1147
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 3: you may have a better prepared army, But if I

1148
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 3: have more lesser prepared combatants than you do, I can

1149
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 3: still win the war because it doesn't necessarily matters who's

1150
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 3: the best or who's the strongest. Sometimes more is what matters.

1151
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just overwhelming. Think about the product that the

1152
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 3: Big ten has to sell at this point to any network.

1153
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: Who wants to do business with them.

1154
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 3: They have usc they have UCLA, they have Oregon, they

1155
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 3: have Washington. They have the entire northern United States covered

1156
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 3: basically ordered to border east to west, and some of

1157
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 3: the biggest teams in this country play in that conference.

1158
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 3: In terms of success, especially recent success. I mean, they

1159
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 3: have tradition, they have recency, they have everything going in

1160
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 3: their favor. Notre Dame, don't get me wrong, has had

1161
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 3: its moments over this past decade. Notre Dame has been

1162
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 3: a traditional power in college football. I'm not throwing any

1163
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 3: shade at Notre Dame, but what I'm saying is as

1164
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 3: great as they can be individually with the Big Ten

1165
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 3: or the ACC potentially or the SEC even who knows

1166
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 3: is trying to do, is trying to make it so

1167
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 3: that it's an offer they can no longer refuse, because,

1168
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 3: as you point it out, they may be vying for

1169
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 3: fifth place at best every year and also getting less

1170
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 3: money in their television deals. Eventually, a school president, an

1171
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 3: athletic director, a wealthy enough alumni, whatever, a booster who's

1172
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 3: been supporting the program for years may say something like,

1173
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 3: you know what, you guys need to change something, otherwise

1174
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 3: we're going to turn off the spickett in terms of

1175
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 3: sending boatloads of cash into the program, and as a result,

1176
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 3: they'll end up cow towing and joining one of these

1177
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 3: super conferences.

1178
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 2: Well and that's that's what everyone's been waiting for for

1179
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 2: one hundred years with Notre Dame, and they refuse. But

1180
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 2: the simple economics may point Notre Dame to either a

1181
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 2: ACC which is where the rest of their school programs

1182
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 2: are part of. But I don't even know about the

1183
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 2: future of that. I want to I want to get

1184
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 2: I'm really into this right now because the s C,

1185
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:40,479
Speaker 2: the SCC and the Big ten are on a different level.

1186
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 2: But before we get to all that, let's find out

1187
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 2: what's trending right now. Moncey Belognas Moncey By the way,

1188
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 2: Moncey got a very nice gift I did from Iowa

1189
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 2: Sam today. What what exactly did he give you?

1190
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 9: A little novelty?

1191
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: Uh?

1192
01:05:58,480 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 9: Friends decoration?

1193
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 8: So it's the central perk sign where they would have coffee,

1194
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 8: which I actually was wearing a shirt yesterday. It's a

1195
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 8: central perk on it. I should have worn it today

1196
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 8: and it lights up. It's adorable.

1197
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 9: I love it. It's so cute.

1198
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 2: He have you always been a Friends?

1199
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 3: Who?

1200
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 9: It's my favorite show of all time.

1201
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: Who's your favorite character? Monica Rachel Joey Chandler.

1202
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 9: So it's funny because I cry all the time, like

1203
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 9: I guess.

1204
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 8: I don't know if you've seen me cry, but I

1205
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 8: cry all the time, and so I relate to Rachel

1206
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 8: in that. But I'm so competitive that I relate to

1207
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 8: Monica in that one.

1208
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: Really I'm a bit of both.

1209
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 9: Like I am so competitive.

1210
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 2: I think of Monica's love interest on that show.

1211
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 9: Chandler Or are we talking about mustache.

1212
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 2: Man Tom Seller?

1213
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 9: Yes, love that man, Love that man.

1214
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 3: See, this is the reason why every year I grow

1215
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 3: out my mustache. Yes, you can't.

1216
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: Well, my wife hates it.

1217
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 3: The attention that I get, Like when I'm waiting in

1218
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 3: line for a sandwich. Every once in a while I

1219
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 3: see I but you know, like it feels like I

1220
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 3: rewound the clock.

1221
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm like, look at this.

1222
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 2: You know, every time I grow a mustache, it looks

1223
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 2: like something I should just wipe off my face.

1224
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 8: There is a fine line with men who can't pull

1225
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 8: off a mustache and men who can't write, And you

1226
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 8: have to accept it.

1227
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 9: It's difficult. Not everyone can do it. You know what

1228
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 9: I'm saying.

1229
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 8: Bo's got a good mustache, but Bo has good facial hair.

1230
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 8: You can't do a mustache if you don't have good

1231
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 8: facial hair.

1232
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 3: Mustache, mustache checks that Steve can't cash.

1233
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's it. That's it.

1234
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 3: This is me strutting down the aisles at my local

1235
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 3: grocery store.

1236
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 8: This could be your background music at all times, Rich,

1237
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 8: And all the cougars.

1238
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: They're just they're just looking at me.

1239
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 3: They're like, I can't for lunch meet, but I want

1240
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 3: the whole thing. You know.

1241
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 2: The funny thing about my facial hair. So, Keanu Reeves

1242
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 2: obviously has the worst facial hair of any guy that

1243
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 2: love boards it. I mean, it's that's it's all patches,

1244
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 2: nothing that that would be.

1245
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 3: My Wait wait, wait are you comparing your facial hair.

1246
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 2: Keanu reach Yes, I mean he has not hatchy. It's awful.

1247
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: He is committed to it.

1248
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 9: It doesn't make it okay, Rich, it really is.

1249
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 2: I appreciate the I mean, Keanu reen is always, you know,

1250
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 2: a good looking guy and everything else. That facial is

1251
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 2: so bad, but he is committed to us, he is.

1252
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 9: It doesn't make it okay.

1253
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 8: Once again, fellas, if you've a patchy beard going on,

1254
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:28,560
Speaker 8: it's not it's.

1255
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 9: Just take it off.

1256
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 8: Just take it off, you know what I'm saying, Like

1257
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:31,879
Speaker 8: you look good without any.

1258
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 2: Facial hair well, I you never seen me. I've been

1259
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 2: shaving since I was nineteen. Completely.

1260
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 8: My father has a mustache, only a mustache since I

1261
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 8: since I've known him my thirty four years. Right, he

1262
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 8: doesn't grow anything else because his mustache doesn't connect to

1263
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 8: his beard or to his.

1264
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 9: Goat, so he's never yeah, so he doesn't do anything else,

1265
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 9: but he wants to. It just has never connected.

1266
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 3: You know, isn't it weird? Because I have a dad

1267
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 3: that's out of beard since I was born. I don't

1268
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 3: know what it's facial. Man, there's a lot of people

1269
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 3: like that, like what were your dad? You'll never know

1270
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 3: what his upper lip looks like? Yes, Like it's just

1271
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 3: forever a mystery.

1272
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 2: See I was watching Hateful eight the other day.

1273
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1274
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 2: Uh And Kurt Russell, Now that guy's got hair, Yeah,

1275
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 2: that mustache that he has a nice.

1276
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 9: Yes, I.

1277
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: Would describe it as luxurious.

1278
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 9: That's a good one. Incredible, that is a good one.

1279
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 2: He's a firefighter. You know, this has been a good.

1280
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 9: Update, Russell, have a good update that I've been doing.

1281
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 8: Here, guys, let's talk baseball for a hot second.

1282
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 9: White Sox have taken the lead over the Guardians. It's

1283
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 9: five three in Cleveland. They're about to start the bottom

1284
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 9: of the ninth inning.

1285
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 8: The ass Shows are beating the Yankees a couple of

1286
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 8: home runs from Jake Myers and yord On Alvarez. It's

1287
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 8: five to one in the Bronx. They're about to start

1288
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 8: the fourth inning. The Royals and the Phillies have only

1289
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 8: been playing three innings and it's been up and down.

1290
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,879
Speaker 8: In fact, Bryson Stotts hied the game for the Phillies

1291
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 8: in the first inning with the three run homer, and

1292
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 8: then the Royals took the lead, and now the Phillies

1293
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 8: are back on top with the Kyle Schwarbert two run

1294
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 8: homer in the second. It is five four Phillies up.

1295
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 8: Bottom of the third inning. The Blue Jays up on

1296
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 8: the Red Sox four zero. Top of the fourth inning.

1297
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 8: The Rays are beating the Tigers in Detroit five to one.

1298
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 8: Bottom of the third. The Nationals just needed the first

1299
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 8: two pitches to hit two homers. Two pitches equal to homers.

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01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 8: First cj Abrams, then Lane Thomas Thomas. They've held onto

1301
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 8: that lead over the Ruds. It is four to two

1302
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 8: bottom of the third inning, and mustaches back to you.

1303
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was a very brief moment that

1304
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 2: I had a mustache. I grew up when I was

1305
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,759
Speaker 2: graduating high school, Like I need to do something to yeah,

1306
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,759
Speaker 2: you know, show a little age anything.

1307
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 3: Well, maybe we should do like, uh, what's coming on?

1308
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah November? Yeah no shave November or November November.

1309
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, I would love that.

1310
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 8: I would love to see all of you guys see

1311
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 8: who can grow a mustache and who can't.

1312
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 9: That's funny.

1313
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 3: I did. What I'll do is I'll cheat, I will,

1314
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 3: I will, I'll uh, I'll into the month like with

1315
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 3: a lot of stubble, and then I'll just free the sash,

1316
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like I'll get like a

1317
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 3: running start into the month for sure for the best.

1318
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 2: You don't want to see me, I would come.

1319
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 10: Hasn't ever uh you know, shaved his upper lip. He's

1320
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:18,679
Speaker 10: had a mustache since he was like twelve.

1321
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean some people just have that ability to

1322
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:21,759
Speaker 2: grow in sane.

1323
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 10: Never get rid of it, never get rid OF's his

1324
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 10: mustache a trademark.

1325
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, like Tom Selly can't get rid of it.

1326
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 2: Was that guy with his Steelers. Kesel was the guy. Yeah,

1327
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 2: Brat Kesel. This guy was unbelievable. So I remember covering

1328
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 2: Super Bowls that he was in, so you're up close

1329
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 2: and personal. This guy's beard had waves in it, like

1330
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 2: there was a beard in a beard in a beard

1331
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:50,520
Speaker 2: like it was different layers. Yeah, that's it was unreal,

1332
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 2: Like there are certain people how you do that?

1333
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:58,959
Speaker 3: Like I also think about like, you know, look, something's

1334
01:11:59,040 --> 01:11:59,679
Speaker 3: living in there.

1335
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 2: It was there, yeah, I mean there's thick. And then

1336
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 2: there was just like.

1337
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 3: Like I how many times do you think that guy

1338
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 3: never shaved that it's stroking his chin whiskers and all

1339
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 3: of a sudden he goes, oh junebug like it. We're like, oh,

1340
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 3: just a little beetle.

1341
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 2: This guy had like a family of four living in

1342
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 2: that beard. I mean it was layer. I mean I've

1343
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 2: never seen a beard that literally had layers to it.

1344
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 9: I believe it.

1345
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 8: And then you have like Yankees Pitcher Nasty Nestor Cortes

1346
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 8: who has a mustache but it looks like very thin.

1347
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 2: First of all, you're not supposed to have facial hair as.

1348
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,919
Speaker 8: A Yankee, but they let you do a mustache a mustache,

1349
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 8: which is ridiculous.

1350
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 9: Which is the most ridiculous thing ever.

1351
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, why why did that facial adornment, grow a popularity,

1352
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 3: shave those sideburns maddingly well.

1353
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,600
Speaker 2: The the Oakland A's of the early seventies were the

1354
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 2: first guys to grow facial hair. It was very pie

1355
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 2: and rolly fingers of course, game most famous, yeah rolled

1356
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 2: up mustache. Yeah yeah, yeah, I want to I want

1357
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 2: to interject for a second and thank you. Mindent packing

1358
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 2: with you later. Winners and losers in this race to

1359
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 2: redefine the landscape of college sports. Loser George Kliakoff, who

1360
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 2: actually inherited a big mess from Larry Scott and made

1361
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 2: it worse. And then there's Brett Yormark, who is the

1362
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 2: commissioner of the Big Twelve. Rich. This conference was on

1363
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 2: life support. They were down to ten schools. Texas and

1364
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 2: Oklahoma were bolting, and we assumed, you remember there was

1365
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 2: talk of a merger between the PAC twelve and what

1366
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 2: remained of the Big Twelve, which was down to ten schools.

1367
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 2: They didn't even have a conference championship game anymore because

1368
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 2: they only had ten schools. And now they're up to sixteen.

1369
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 2: They get Colorado back, They add the four schools out

1370
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 2: of the PAC twelve. They get the four schools out

1371
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 2: of the AAC. So even though they're losing Texas and

1372
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 2: Oklahoma next year to the SEC got to sixteen schools.

1373
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 2: So this Brett, your Mark just destroyed George Kliakoff, who

1374
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 2: could have done the same thing but was so shortsighted

1375
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 2: he lost sight of it. And now well he's going

1376
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 2: to be out of a job.

1377
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 3: Well, hang on, hang on. So your Mark and Kleifkoff,

1378
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 3: what do they have in common.

1379
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: They are.

1380
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 3: Indebted to the schools that they work for to get

1381
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 3: their bidding done. They are figureheads. They are not decision makers. Now,

1382
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong. They can apply their opinion. They

1383
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 3: can certainly disagree with what these university presidents and athletic

1384
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 3: directors and board members want to do with the future

1385
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 3: of the conference. But they're not making decisions on their own.

1386
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 3: Like this is what I always say when people are

1387
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 3: upset with Roger Goodell, or people are upset with Rob

1388
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 3: Manfred or Adam Silver and you know the the NFL, NBA, MLB.

1389
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: This commissioner doesn't know what he's doing.

1390
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 3: This commissioner is a human shield for the thirty or

1391
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 3: thirty two owners, depending on which sport we're talking about.

1392
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:18,520
Speaker 3: And that is the same exact thing for these conference commissioners.

1393
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 3: Your Mark looks smart because the schools that were helping

1394
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:26,560
Speaker 3: him make decisions were helping him make the right decisions.

1395
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 3: George Kleivekoff does not, and it's for the same reason.

1396
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 3: So I don't blame Clefkoff for the shortsightedness. I blame

1397
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 3: all these university presidents and these athletic directors who overplayed

1398
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 3: their hand, who didn't understand the tenor of.

1399
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 2: The organs off the charts exactly.

1400
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 3: That's the problem is these schools like and name them

1401
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 3: as Stanford, cow Oregon, Washington. I mean some of them

1402
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,759
Speaker 3: obviously were had their site set on leaving the conference

1403
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 3: all together. But they were like, merge with the Big

1404
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:10,560
Speaker 3: twelve and sully our reputation, no chns. I mean, like Stanford,

1405
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 3: their endowment is billions of dollars. So maybe they were saying, like, what,

1406
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 3: and we're going to join the Big twelve with those

1407
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 3: Texas schools. I think not that's what That's the sort

1408
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 3: of stuff that was happening behind the scenes, all right.

1409
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 2: I got a little time out. On the other side.

1410
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 2: I want to get into one of what has always

1411
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 2: been perceived as the most important aspect of college sports rivalries.

1412
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 2: Where do we go from here? This is Fox Sports Sunday,

1413
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 2: Steve Harbin, Rich Harburger, Fox Sports Sunday. We are live

1414
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 2: from the tai Iraq dot Com studios. When I grew

1415
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 2: up rich a million years ago, on the college football scene,

1416
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 2: it was all about rivalries Ohio State, Michigan, USC, ucla USC,

1417
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, Alabama, Auburn, Harvard, Yale. There was also one

1418
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 2: of the biggest rivalries was Oklahoma Nebraska in what was

1419
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 2: then the old Big Eight Conference. It was an annual game.

1420
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 2: In fact, one year in nineteen seventy one, it was

1421
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 2: the game of the century, two undefeated teams. Nebraska came

1422
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 2: out on top of that one. So when Nebraska bolted

1423
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 2: for the Big Ten, people said, wow, you've destroyed the sport.

1424
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you've taken away one of the greatest rivalries

1425
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 2: of all time. Somehow college football survived that. And I

1426
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 2: know a lot of people I saw you yesterday about

1427
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 2: Oregon and Washington departing from their you know stepsisters, so

1428
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,560
Speaker 2: to speak, Washington State and Oregon State, you know, and

1429
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 2: little Pullman, Washington, Little Corvallis, Oregon no more Civil War,

1430
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 2: no more Apple Cup. They said, oh maybe every once

1431
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 2: in a while that I'll have that game. But as

1432
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 2: we've seen over the years, I remember growing up, no

1433
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 2: one talked about Miami or Florida State of Florida. They

1434
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 2: became powers in the eighties and nineties, and those games

1435
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 2: suddenly became must watch. Notre Dame and no rivalry against

1436
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 2: Miami until suddenly Miami was good and suddenly we wanted

1437
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 2: to see those games. So, and you know me, I'm

1438
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 2: old school, but the idea of preserving rivalries to in

1439
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 2: some way preserve interest in college football, I think we

1440
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 2: have gone way past that.

1441
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, I think this is going to sound really weird,

1442
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 3: but I think that college football, if all of a

1443
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 3: sudden every rivalry disappeared, right, if you took away Alabama,

1444
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 3: Auburn and Ohio State Michigan and you just any of

1445
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 3: these regional rivalries, if they all just vanished and it

1446
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 3: was because these schools no longer wanted to do this,

1447
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 3: and the schools ultimately have a tremendous amount of decision

1448
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 3: making power, fan bases would be upset for a very

1449
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 3: long time. But college football would. I Look, there are

1450
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 3: certain businesses, right now in this country that.

1451
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 1: Are just untoppable, and college football.

1452
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 3: Is one of them. The NFL is another one. You know,

1453
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 3: if you want to expand the scope into other businesses,

1454
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 3: we could go there. But football right now is king

1455
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,440
Speaker 3: in this country in terms of entertainment.

1456
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: I just don't think rivalries.

1457
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 3: Are nearly as important to the survival of the sport

1458
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 3: as they once were. And that's the reason why you're

1459
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 3: seeing a team like Oregon extricating themselves to a different conference,

1460
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 3: really destroying the opportunity on an annual basis to have

1461
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 3: the Apple Cup because it doesn't matter anymore.

1462
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 2: It just doesn't. It doesn't have the same impact. Again,

1463
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 2: the idea of college football being regional, it was very regional,

1464
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 2: right and those days are gone. I mean, it just is.

1465
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 2: I mean, there was an era where the South and

1466
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 2: the East and the Midwest the west, you know, it

1467
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,640
Speaker 2: was very separate from the rest of the country. And

1468
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 2: it's it's just not that way anymore. So get used

1469
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 2: to it. By the way, suggestions for renaming the Big Ten,

1470
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 2: which is now eighteen one person just said, how about

1471
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 2: Big ten and friends? Can we go there? I mean,

1472
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:20,679
Speaker 2: you sort of have to keep it open ended. Because

1473
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:21,640
Speaker 2: they're probably not done it.

1474
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 3: Excity. It's a playoff of like John and Kate plus a,

1475
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 3: like Big ten plus eight something like that.

1476
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 2: Think about that. We got a lot of NFL news

1477
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:30,679
Speaker 2: to get to keep it here. This is Fox Sports

1478
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:34,640
Speaker 2: Sunday having more fun than we should have, but we'll

1479
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 2: do it anyway. That's what we have here on Fox

1480
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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, broadcasting live from the ti rag dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: just tuning in, Monsey's been telling you about Team USA

1486
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 2: gone from World Cup. What a nightmare now for the network,

1487
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 2: right they have to continue on with this World Cup

1488
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:06,839
Speaker 2: coverage and no Team USA.

1489
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 1: Yikes.

1490
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 2: That was supposed to carry us a little bit through this.

1491
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:17,839
Speaker 2: You know preseason football, you know some you know Team USA,

1492
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 2: and that's gone. We got a lot of NFL to

1493
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 2: get too. Rich. I want to start with the Josh

1494
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 2: Jacobs situation with the Raiders and the idea that they

1495
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 2: would actually consider rescinding his franchise tag, which would make

1496
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 2: him a free agent. And of course there's a couple

1497
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 2: of teams immediately that, Oh, I don't know, division rivals

1498
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 2: like the Broncos, and the rate the Chiefs might jump

1499
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 2: on a guy like Josh Jacobs. I'm trying to figure

1500
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 2: out where the Raiders are right now. You hired a

1501
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 2: coach who, now, including last season, is eleven and twenty

1502
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 2: eight in his last thirty nine games as a head

1503
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 2: coach in the NFL. Imagine the mindset of DeVante Adams

1504
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 2: right now, right, I mean a year ago, DeVante Adams

1505
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 2: wanted to be a Raider so he could be reunited

1506
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 2: with his old buddy, his Fresno State teammate, Derek Carr.

1507
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 2: Car's gone, by the way, he's here. The latest on

1508
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo is throwing interception after interception during practice. Josh

1509
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 2: mcdanis says, no problem. I've seen some good throws in there.

1510
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:26,640
Speaker 2: But I'm trying to figure out the direction of a

1511
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 2: franchise that, even though record wise they haven't been relevant

1512
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 2: in twenty years, there's still a very valuable brand to

1513
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 2: the NFL, especially now with their location in Las Vegas

1514
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 2: and two years ago, this team made the playoffs. You know,

1515
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 2: with all the ruckus and everything that was going on

1516
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 2: with Gruden everything else, they made the playoffs. And I'm

1517
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 2: looking at this team right now, I mean potentially if

1518
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs doesn't suit up for this team, not only

1519
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 2: are they the worst team in the AFC West, I

1520
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 2: mean they're going to be battle for the number one

1521
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 2: pick in the draft. How did we get here and

1522
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: and what would be the mindset of resinding the franchise

1523
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 2: tag offer of Josh Jacobs.

1524
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's face it.

1525
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 3: If Josh Jacobs is principled enough that he is threatening

1526
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 3: holdout and and it means like he refuses and I

1527
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 3: mean refuses to play this season for the Raiders as

1528
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 3: a result of those principles. Okay, I mean, like there's

1529
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 3: there's a part of me that says, well, just hang

1530
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:40,480
Speaker 3: in there, find the guy into oblivion, and then hopefully,

1531
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 3: you know.

1532
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 1: He'll play at some point for you.

1533
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 3: But if it looks like this isn't going anywhere positive, well,

1534
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 3: then I mean it's either cut bait now or cut

1535
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 3: bait later. I mean, like that's that's now. We'll see

1536
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 3: where that story goes. But particularly talking about the Raiders globally.

1537
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 3: I think where they're going is where a lot of

1538
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 3: NFL teams are going when they are a little bit

1539
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 3: listless and they don't have a great roster that's built

1540
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 3: around the quarterback position. The fact of the matter is

1541
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 3: they just don't have a great quarterback. Jimmy Garoppolo has

1542
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 3: had moments of greatness. He just hasn't had it sustained

1543
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 3: long enough for them to win a Super Bowl with

1544
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 3: him anywhere, whether it was you know, I mean he

1545
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 3: barely started in New England, but San Francisco, and now

1546
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 3: that he's a Raider, I mean, we'll see what the

1547
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 3: reunion with Josh McDaniels looks like. But this guy has

1548
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 3: been a winner, but very reliant on the talent he

1549
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 3: has around him. It reminds me a lot of Kirk Cousins,

1550
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 3: you know, in some ways, he reminds me of Dak Prescott.

1551
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 3: I think Dak Prescott's a better quarterback. You get my idea, though,

1552
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 3: Like he's he's somewhere in the middle pack, the middle

1553
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 3: tier of the NFL. And so where the Raiders are

1554
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 3: is they They moved on from one guy who very

1555
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 3: similar in Derek Carr, to Jimmy Garoppolo. So in my mind,

1556
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 3: unless you have a great roster, and I mean a

1557
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 3: great roster built around talents like those two, you're gonna

1558
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 3: be a team that's going to be just above five

1559
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 3: hundred most seasons. Or if you get into the postseason

1560
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:25,480
Speaker 3: on a great season from your offense or defense respectively,

1561
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 3: or together a collaborative experience like we've seen in the past,

1562
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 3: it's gonna be an early knockout in the postseason. And

1563
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 3: that's exactly what's happened. It's been a decade of this

1564
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 3: basically since Derek car has been drafted. It doesn't mean

1565
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 3: that he can't win a Super Bowl. It just means

1566
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 3: that they haven't built a good enough team around him

1567
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 3: all those years he was in Oakland and the years

1568
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 3: that he was in Vegas to win a Super Bowl,

1569
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 3: and so time time was up. He wanted to move on,

1570
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 3: and so he did.

1571
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 2: I get back to a conversation we had with our

1572
01:25:57,080 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 2: buddy Bucky Brooks talking about the importance of a franchise

1573
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 2: running back, like what teams can be benefited by having

1574
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 2: that dominant running back, And he said, look, if you

1575
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 2: have a great quarterback, you know, top tier quarterback. You

1576
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 2: don't need a great running back. You can get by

1577
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 2: with running back by committee. Look at Tom Brady. I mean,

1578
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 2: his whole career in New England was running back by committee.

1579
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 2: But if you were a middle level I mean, we

1580
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 2: were using Kirk Cousins as an example of that, and

1581
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 2: the value of a Dalvin Cook to a quarterback like

1582
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, it's immeasurable. Minnesota's rolling the dice by not

1583
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 2: retaining Dalvin Cook and going by running back by committee.

1584
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to play out well with

1585
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 2: a quarterback like Kirk Cousins. And I would include Jimmy

1586
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 2: Garoppolo in this same instance. I can't when I hear

1587
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels and look at I'll acknowledge this guy has

1588
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 2: an incredible record as offensive coredinator, but I don't get

1589
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 2: his mindset as a head coach. The explanation for Josh

1590
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 2: Jacob's breakout season last year was, well, it wasn't by design,

1591
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 2: it was by accident. Okay, yeah, But by accident you

1592
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 2: found out that you have one of the premier running

1593
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 2: backs in the NFL along with one of the top

1594
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 2: receivers in the NFL. Yeah, why would you pick up

1595
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 2: the ot It doesn't make any sense. And can you

1596
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 2: imagine if he Ashley ends up with an AFC West rival.

1597
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 2: I mean, at some point you have to step in

1598
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 2: and say this organization has no clue what they're doing

1599
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 2: and it's and I get back to you, You're only

1600
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,759
Speaker 2: good is your weakest link. There's a lot of weak

1601
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,640
Speaker 2: links in this NFL. And yes, the overall picture is

1602
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 2: nothing but glorious for the Shield, but it's got to

1603
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 2: be frustrating for the league itself when franchises really under

1604
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,799
Speaker 2: mind themselves with really stupid decision.

1605
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 3: But franchises can get better in a hurry, and all

1606
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 3: it takes. All it takes is a great quarterback being

1607
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,719
Speaker 3: paired with a talented head coach.

1608
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 2: But how many really great quarterbacks are They're rich? I

1609
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 2: mean seriously, I mean great quarterbacks.

1610
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 3: Well, we're seeing more and more enter the league as

1611
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:25,719
Speaker 3: a result of the emphasis put on the quarterback position.

1612
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,600
Speaker 2: Two years ago we were talking Kyler Murray was a

1613
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 2: great quarterback. Is he still a great quarterback?

1614
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 1: Oh? No, absolutely not.

1615
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 2: And that is that Shawn Watson still a great quarterback.

1616
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 1: That remains to be seen.

1617
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 3: Look, I personally think that we've seen the best of

1618
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 3: Joshaun Watson, but I don't know if my opinion on

1619
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 3: that is colored by the.

1620
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:50,520
Speaker 2: Mark Jackson still a great quarterback.

1621
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 3: Okay, So you're naming three guys who have at one

1622
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 3: missed two years of football due to sexual misconduct allegations, right,

1623
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 3: the other one who had a horrific knee injury, and

1624
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 3: the front office in the head coaching position is in

1625
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 3: complete flux in Kyler Murray in Arizona. And then the

1626
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 3: third has been something less endurable for the past two

1627
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 3: seasons after having early success in this league, breakout star.

1628
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 3: So those are three good examples of young quarterbacks who

1629
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:22,680
Speaker 3: may or may not flame out. And I don't think

1630
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 3: we could really categorize Deshaun Watson as a young quarterback.

1631
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 3: But how about the ones have recently come out of

1632
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 3: college and automatically had success, like Trevor Lawrence, who in

1633
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,600
Speaker 3: year two looks like he's going to be a superstar

1634
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 3: in this league for a decade to come. Josh Allen

1635
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 3: and Patrick Mahomes and Justin Herbert and Joe Burrow and

1636
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 3: two a tongue of Vailoa and Jalen Hurts. I mean,

1637
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 3: right now, we're entering the age of the quarterback. And

1638
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 3: I know we're saying goodbye to the goat, And we

1639
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 3: recently waved to the sheriff as he saddled up and

1640
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 3: he went off into the sunset with the Denver Broncos.

1641
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:04,799
Speaker 3: And you no longer have the Gunslinger and Drew Brees

1642
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:08,639
Speaker 3: down there with the Saints. But the stock is being

1643
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 3: replenished faster than it's ever been in NFL history. Because again,

1644
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 3: when the quarterback position was minted as the most important

1645
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 3: position in sports, there was a transformation process at the

1646
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 3: youth league and high school level where all of a sudden,

1647
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 3: these high schools were like, Nope, we're no longer running

1648
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 3: the football every single down, We're no longer running the

1649
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 3: option game.

1650
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna open things up, and.

1651
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:40,799
Speaker 3: We're gonna be a shotgun, wide open, empty set offense.

1652
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 3: You look around high school football now, everybody's throwing the football.

1653
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:47,919
Speaker 3: You look back a decade ago, nobody was throwing the football.

1654
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 3: And so we're entering the age of the quarterback. Yeah,

1655
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 3: you're right, Lamar Jackson may be too fragile to play

1656
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 3: long term in this league. Kyler Murray, we may have

1657
01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 3: seen the best of his days. And he may fade

1658
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:03,719
Speaker 3: Deshaun watchin. It's a coin flip if he can knock

1659
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:07,599
Speaker 3: the rust off. He was an incredible NFL quarterback before

1660
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 3: he was alleged to be involved in all of those

1661
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:16,680
Speaker 3: sexual misconduct situations. I think that we are entering probably

1662
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 3: the greatest moment the NFL has ever had in terms

1663
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 3: of the quarterback.

1664
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 2: All Right, on the other side, a little personal insight

1665
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 2: on one NFL team looking for a big bounce back

1666
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:33,439
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01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:46,800
Speaker 2: Garrett Parris and her boyfriend, they all went down to Irvine. Yeah,

1684
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 2: two to ten RAMS training camp. That is because Tyler

1685
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:58,759
Speaker 2: Higbee and his significant other have become very close friends

1686
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 2: with Denise involved in a real estate thing. But they're

1687
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 2: much more. They're friends now, right, So they went down

1688
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 2: to Irvine to check out RAMS training camp. Now, you know,

1689
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 2: you know those days when the fans are allowed to

1690
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 2: show up at training camp. You've been part of that obviously.

1691
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Yeah.

1692
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 2: By the way, in your time in the league, when

1693
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 2: you had a fans day at training camp, and you know,

1694
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 2: sometimes they actually charge you to be there, were the

1695
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 2: players encouraged to interact with the fans on those days?

1696
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah.

1697
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 3: In fact, I would say the majority of training camp

1698
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:46,440
Speaker 3: practices were, or at very least fifty percent were open practices,

1699
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:50,600
Speaker 3: meaning fans were welcome to come to practice and I

1700
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:53,879
Speaker 3: think it's first of all, great for the fans because

1701
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:59,480
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people who can't afford the ridiculously

1702
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:03,679
Speaker 3: high ticket prices in the NFL, but they're still enormous

1703
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 3: fans of the game. And when they can take off

1704
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:10,680
Speaker 3: days from work or if they have a free afternoon

1705
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 3: to you know, take their kids down to a training

1706
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:19,560
Speaker 3: camp practice, you can actually have a more intimate opportunity

1707
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:22,799
Speaker 3: to get to know players post practice with autograph signings

1708
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 3: and things like that. So so yeah, like I mean,

1709
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:30,599
Speaker 3: it was it was a welcoming environment at training camps

1710
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:31,679
Speaker 3: often for the fans.

1711
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 2: Well, I think it should be. That's why you have

1712
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:39,920
Speaker 2: days like that. So I was curious when they got back, like, okay,

1713
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 2: did how the rams interact? And they cited some very

1714
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:48,559
Speaker 2: positive examples, Tyler Higbee in one of them, but you know,

1715
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford, Sean McVay, you know, spent some time. But

1716
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 2: there were two two rams, very prominent rams, that said no.

1717
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:03,599
Speaker 2: In fact, even when approached they were literally told no, okay,

1718
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 2: And those two are Aaron Donald and apparently the worst

1719
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 2: of it was Cooper Cup And I thinking to myself,

1720
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 2: this is not good pr especially for a team rebounding

1721
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 2: from a disastrous season in five and twelve. I mean

1722
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:28,600
Speaker 2: when we talk about training camp and you got your

1723
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:31,800
Speaker 2: get your working and everything else, that there's time to

1724
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 2: do all that stuff. But if you have a day

1725
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:36,519
Speaker 2: where people are showing up paying money to you know,

1726
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 2: sort of you know, and it's not like you know,

1727
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 2: you have to stand there in cite autographs for hour

1728
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:46,559
Speaker 2: upon hour and just an acknowledgement. Sometimes that's all it takes.

1729
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 2: Like you know, you wave and they way back or

1730
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:52,559
Speaker 2: you know, you know, that's all it really takes. Yeah,

1731
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 2: that's all it takes. You know, some kind of acknowledgement.

1732
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:58,559
Speaker 2: Hey we're big fans, blah blah, Hey thanks so much.

1733
01:35:58,760 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 2: That's all it takes.

1734
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 3: All right, I'm going to I'm gonna pump the brakes

1735
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:06,679
Speaker 3: on this to just say, to just give you insight.

1736
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

1737
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 3: And now again, I don't know Cooper cup or Aaron

1738
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 3: Donald personally. I've never met them, never spoke to them,

1739
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 3: never interviewed either of them either as a matter of fact,

1740
01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:19,640
Speaker 3: on this side of the work, you know, on the

1741
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 3: media side. But what I can tell you is, first

1742
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 3: of all, training camp is work, right, you know, the

1743
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:32,559
Speaker 3: same way you know, you know a garbage man gets

1744
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 3: on the back of the truck, or the same way

1745
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 3: a tax accountant has his crazy times of the year

1746
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 3: where he's it feels like he's locked in his office

1747
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 3: in front of a computer, or you know, a salesman

1748
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:47,680
Speaker 3: is on his beat grinding or working the phones. Like,

1749
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 3: there are good days and there are bad days. And

1750
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 3: depending on what day you catch anybody on if they're

1751
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 3: having a tough work day, the level of communication you

1752
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:02,880
Speaker 3: want to provide is there's no question about that. Now,

1753
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:07,599
Speaker 3: at training camp, there are certain position groups that are

1754
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:11,719
Speaker 3: required to go around, do the rounds, sign autographs. Usually

1755
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 3: every team I played for, that's what it was. It's

1756
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 3: like today, it's gonna be the offensive lineman. Today, it's

1757
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 3: gonna be the receivers. Today, it's gonna be the tight

1758
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 3: ends and the quarterbacks. Today it's gonna be the defensive lineman.

1759
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 3: And you send them around the perimeter of this field. Now,

1760
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean that nobody else is in supposed to

1761
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 3: or allowed to sign autographs. Anybody can sign autographs, but

1762
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:34,640
Speaker 3: that's usually the way it's scheduled.

1763
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 1: I agree with you.

1764
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 3: Sometimes when players are asked for autographs, or sometimes when

1765
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 3: players are asked for their time when they're when they're

1766
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 3: rude to people, it rubs me the wrong way also,

1767
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 3: But I'm also aware of the fact that this is

1768
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:54,400
Speaker 3: a workplace environment for these players trying to get prepared

1769
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 3: for their season, and they too, just like anybody, are

1770
01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 3: susceptible to having good and bad days.

1771
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I accept that. Now let's get to the Rams themselves,

1772
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 2: because you, during the course of last season insisted that

1773
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two is an aberration. So I'm looking right

1774
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 2: now at the odds for the upcoming season for the Rams.

1775
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 2: Of the thirty two teams in the league, they are

1776
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 2: at plus seventy five hundred, which is twenty seventh in

1777
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:28,720
Speaker 2: the league, and odds to win the Super Bowl and

1778
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:32,480
Speaker 2: their victory over under is six and a half. Yeah,

1779
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 2: six and a half for a team that won the

1780
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 2: Super Bowl just two years ago. So are you because

1781
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:44,839
Speaker 2: I know you will wager. You talk about wagering every Saturday.

1782
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 2: I never miss it. Are they under selling this Rams team?

1783
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:52,640
Speaker 2: Because these numbers say the Rams are literally going to

1784
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,600
Speaker 2: be one of the worst teams in the NFL, I

1785
01:38:55,640 --> 01:39:00,759
Speaker 2: mean bad this year or with the four men players

1786
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 2: plus a coach that. Let's face it, a couple of

1787
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 2: years ago, was on top of the world, maybe turned

1788
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:08,840
Speaker 2: down tens of millions of dollars to bowl coaching to

1789
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 2: take a cozy network broadcasting job. Are the Rams as

1790
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 2: bad as Vegas say they are going to be in

1791
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three?

1792
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 3: Look to me, the Rams aren't as bad as Vegas says.

1793
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:26,760
Speaker 3: If I if I were gonna lay money on one

1794
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 3: side of that bet over the hunder, I'm saying the

1795
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 3: Rams can win seven plus games.

1796
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 2: I mean seven and ten is a win for you.

1797
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 3: Well, well that's that's what I'm saying. Like, think about me,

1798
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 3: think about what. Yeah, they were missing Matthew Stafford for

1799
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 3: a large chunk of the season, cup and Aaron Donald

1800
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:48,760
Speaker 3: for the majority of the season as well. You know,

1801
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:52,799
Speaker 3: you think about that and you say, Okay, the best

1802
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 3: defensive player in the league was unavailable for a big

1803
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 3: chunk of the season. The best offensive player, or a

1804
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 3: very least one of the best offensive players in the

1805
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:05,880
Speaker 3: league was unavailable for the majority of the season. Your

1806
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 3: starting quarterback, who's a future Hall of Famer presumably was

1807
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:13,120
Speaker 3: missing in action as well due to injury. So how

1808
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 3: on earth could you have a successful season. Now, they

1809
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 3: haven't done themselves any favors roster wise. This offseason. They

1810
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 3: stuck to the draft picks they had that didn't forward

1811
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:26,760
Speaker 3: sell any other draft picks to build a super team

1812
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 3: like they had in years past. And this is no

1813
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:32,920
Speaker 3: question a rebuild year. But we've said that before, and

1814
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 3: we've seen teams battle their way through a rebuild year

1815
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 3: and have a really good season. Look at the Seattle

1816
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:45,120
Speaker 3: Seahawks last year, everybody said rebuild year. They shipped off

1817
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, he goes to Denver. They get draft picks.

1818
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:51,840
Speaker 3: Gino Smith is their starting quarterback. He's in a quarterback

1819
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 3: competition over the offseason with Drew Locke. The Seattle Seahawks.

1820
01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:01,800
Speaker 3: We're a very very good team. So I'm not saying

1821
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 3: the Rams are gonna be world beaters. I'm not saying

1822
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 3: the Rams are going to win a Super Bowl because

1823
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 3: I don't think they can.

1824
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 1: But could the Rams end up in the postseason.

1825
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:14,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, you get some pretty good odds right now,

1826
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:18,640
Speaker 2: I mean some really good odds. But think about what

1827
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 2: they have. Sean McVeigh, Well, this is why I'm saying.

1828
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:25,559
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean Vegas is really smart. Yeah, when

1829
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:28,320
Speaker 2: you when you lay a number that low on a

1830
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 2: team that's just a year removed from winning the Super Bowl,

1831
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:35,639
Speaker 2: they must know something. Otherwise the whole world's gonna say

1832
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 2: six and a half. Geez, I'd go seven and ten.

1833
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:43,559
Speaker 2: I'm a winner. I'm all over that. So I'm trying

1834
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 2: to figure out what it is that Vegas knows. I'm

1835
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:49,879
Speaker 2: with you. I mean, if you can have Matthew Stafford

1836
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:53,479
Speaker 2: healthy for the majority of the year, a healthy Aaron Donald,

1837
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:59,679
Speaker 2: a healthy Cooper Cup, seems to me like I should

1838
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:01,120
Speaker 2: win it at least seven games.

1839
01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I think that they're being harshly undervalued,

1840
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:10,639
Speaker 3: especially when you think about where the Seattle Seahawks very

1841
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:15,440
Speaker 3: solid season last last year, but the Saddle Seahawks are

1842
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:19,800
Speaker 3: They're still building in the direction of their future. The

1843
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:24,639
Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals have basically all but slammed the reset button down.

1844
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:27,639
Speaker 3: We'll see if Kyler Murray has anything left in the tank.

1845
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 3: On the other side of that ACL injury suffered late

1846
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 3: last season. The San Francisco forty nine Ers are obviously

1847
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 3: the class of the division, but they have a huge

1848
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 3: question mark. And the huge question mark is at the

1849
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 3: most important position in the NFL now they were able

1850
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:46,839
Speaker 3: to survive the end of last season with Brock Party.

1851
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:49,920
Speaker 3: But guess what now all thirty two teams and every

1852
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 3: team on their schedule has film on Brock Party. Yeah,

1853
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:56,599
Speaker 3: you know, it's just going to be a different season now.

1854
01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if that means that Brock Party is

1855
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:01,559
Speaker 3: their starting quarter for the rest of the way. Maybe

1856
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:03,720
Speaker 3: it's Sam Donald, but I mean that's who they have

1857
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 3: to choose from. It's Sam Donald or Brock Purty or

1858
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 3: Trey Lance who's been mia since he's been drafted. So

1859
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 3: that's a big area of concern for the forty nine ers.

1860
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:16,720
Speaker 3: We'll see again. When you're missing two future Hall of

1861
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 3: Famers and arguably the best offensive player in the league

1862
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 3: due to injury last season, then you're going to have

1863
01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:26,520
Speaker 3: a bad year. When you have as quiet an offseason

1864
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 3: as the Rams did, where they really had a volume

1865
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 3: draft where less need, traded down for more picks, and

1866
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 3: again had no first rounders. I think the first pick

1867
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:39,680
Speaker 3: they had was seventy fifth. Overall, you're going to have

1868
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 3: one of those offseasons where Vegas takes a look at

1869
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:44,759
Speaker 3: the numbers and says, yeah, we're gonna need a set

1870
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:48,519
Speaker 3: an artificially low number to get people even interested in

1871
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:49,559
Speaker 3: wagering on the rams.

1872
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want on the other side, I want to

1873
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:53,719
Speaker 2: talk about some of the teams that could emerge, because

1874
01:43:53,720 --> 01:44:00,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a four team parlay a

1875
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:04,120
Speaker 2: year ago at this time. Okay, if I had laid

1876
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:07,639
Speaker 2: down this fourteen parlay a year ago this time, I'm

1877
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:11,080
Speaker 2: going to find out from you, mister gambler, Uh, what

1878
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:13,479
Speaker 2: kind of odds I could have gotten and what kind

1879
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 2: of money I would have received at the end of this.

1880
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:18,719
Speaker 2: But before we do that, let's find out what's trending

1881
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 2: right now. This is the easiest bet on the board.

1882
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:23,760
Speaker 2: Monce is ready to roll.

1883
01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 9: I am ready to barely, but I'm here.

1884
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 2: By the way, she is a huge Taylor Swift fan.

1885
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 1: Is that correct?

1886
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 9: I yeah, yeah, I mean I mean could I see

1887
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:34,799
Speaker 9: the entire concert?

1888
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 2: Yes, they are out doing anything. I mean it's like no,

1889
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:41,799
Speaker 2: I mean it's beatles Mania with Taylor Swift.

1890
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 9: No, it's absolutely crazy.

1891
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:47,040
Speaker 8: Rich, I'm over here contemplating dropping an insane amount of

1892
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 8: money to.

1893
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 9: Go watch Taylor Swift. Yeah, that's what I'm contemplating.

1894
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:51,880
Speaker 1: This is what I would suggest you do.

1895
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 9: Please give me advice everybody here has said yes.

1896
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 2: So if you want to go bad enough, the answer

1897
01:44:57,479 --> 01:44:57,840
Speaker 2: is yes.

1898
01:44:57,920 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, the answer is yet.

1899
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 3: But what I'm thinking you ought to do is Taylor

1900
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:05,559
Speaker 3: Swift isn't going anywhere. I mean, she's basically a small

1901
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:07,440
Speaker 3: country's economy.

1902
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:09,960
Speaker 1: Yes, she's going to be toing for a long time

1903
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 1: to come.

1904
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 3: So what I say is you'd be one of these

1905
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 3: people who, whenever she's playing in this region, you get

1906
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 3: on Ticketmaster at like the stroke of midnight and you

1907
01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:23,680
Speaker 3: try to get the face value tickets, and then you're

1908
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:26,680
Speaker 3: gonna find out how big of a Taylor Swift fan

1909
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:29,640
Speaker 3: you are, because then when you have a ticket for

1910
01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 3: I don't know, two hundred and fifty bucks, now you

1911
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 3: could sell for four thousand dollars.

1912
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:34,759
Speaker 9: No, of course that's crazy.

1913
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 3: We'll see if you really do want to go see Tailing.

1914
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:41,360
Speaker 2: Or you could do this. You could wait twenty five

1915
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:44,520
Speaker 2: years when she's playing at state fairs.

1916
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:48,719
Speaker 9: Yes, you know, I know, I could wait.

1917
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:51,400
Speaker 2: For the Ventura County Fairgrounds or something like that. You

1918
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:53,639
Speaker 2: see these You're like, are they still around?

1919
01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 3: No?

1920
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:57,599
Speaker 9: I know, wait I don't.

1921
01:45:56,960 --> 01:45:59,200
Speaker 2: Because I guarantee the tickets that might be much cheaper.

1922
01:45:59,360 --> 01:45:59,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1923
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:02,719
Speaker 2: Songs are the same, right, But this is the era store.

1924
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 9: It's not like just one album, you know what I'm saying.

1925
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:07,120
Speaker 9: It's like the I don't know, guys, I think I'm

1926
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:07,640
Speaker 9: gonna do it.

1927
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 8: I'm literally waiting for my bff, Grace Buehler. I know

1928
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:15,080
Speaker 8: you're driving respond to me if she says, yes, I'm

1929
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 8: pulling the trigger.

1930
01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 2: We've told yes, I know, but I can't.

1931
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 9: I don't want to go by myself, so she has

1932
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 9: to drop her I'm not buying.

1933
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:28,120
Speaker 11: Please, Steve, Are you gonna buy my ticket?

1934
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, not.

1935
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:35,719
Speaker 9: The problem. But a little NFL news, guys. The NFL

1936
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:37,520
Speaker 9: Network has just tweeted.

1937
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 8: That head coach Sean Payton says that Russell Wilson and

1938
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 8: starters will play in their preseason game against the Cardinals

1939
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 8: on Friday, and that rookie quarterback Bryce Young will play

1940
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 8: in the Panthers preseason opener against the Jets on Saturday.

1941
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 8: So we're gonna get some starters. That's exciting, at least

1942
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:56,439
Speaker 8: for a player two for at.

1943
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:58,320
Speaker 9: Least for a player or two, which is what we want.

1944
01:46:58,439 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 9: So come on, good job, good job.

1945
01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:02,639
Speaker 8: The Yankees have tied the game in the Bronx against

1946
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:05,839
Speaker 8: the Astros because the Astros walked two with the bases

1947
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 8: loaded in the fourth inning, so now we have a

1948
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 8: tigh game. It is five to five, bottom of the

1949
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:13,360
Speaker 8: fifth inning. As for the Royals and the Phillies, Nick

1950
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:16,120
Speaker 8: Castellanos has extended the Phillies lead with the two run

1951
01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 8: homer and the bottom of the fifth inning, so it's

1952
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 8: seven to four.

1953
01:47:19,120 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 9: Bottom of the seventh. The Orioles are up on the Mets.

1954
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:23,120
Speaker 9: It is one zero.

1955
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:25,639
Speaker 8: They're about to start the bottom of the seventh inning,

1956
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 8: and the Blue Jays have exploded. They can't stop scoring.

1957
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:30,839
Speaker 8: It's eleven to one against the Red Sox in Boston.

1958
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 8: Bottom of the sixth inning. The Rays have added some

1959
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:36,280
Speaker 8: more runs eight to three against the Tigers. Bottom of

1960
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:39,160
Speaker 8: the sixth inning. Nationals holding on to their early lead

1961
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 8: over the Reds five to three. Top of the sixth inning.

1962
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 8: Rockies beating the Cardinals one zero. They're about to start

1963
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:47,559
Speaker 8: the sixth inning, and the Pirates up on the Brewers

1964
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 8: in Milwaukee to zero, top of the fifth. As for

1965
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:54,519
Speaker 8: Matt Olsen of the Braves, the Braves are so good fellas.

1966
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 9: Everybody's good.

1967
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:57,760
Speaker 8: Every day you hear a different player has delivered for

1968
01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:00,280
Speaker 8: the Braves. But once again it's Matt Olsen and two

1969
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:03,639
Speaker 8: run homer home run number thirty nine on the year.

1970
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:06,880
Speaker 2: I think they miss Freddy Freeman at no, not even

1971
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 2: a little bit.

1972
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:10,720
Speaker 8: Has that ever happened where somebody gets rid of a

1973
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 8: star and then they get a star like in.

1974
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:15,160
Speaker 9: The exact same spot, Like, that's crazy.

1975
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 2: Why the Braves are lap in the field right now

1976
01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:18,759
Speaker 2: in baseball and they.

1977
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:20,679
Speaker 8: Are one of the few every team when I look

1978
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:23,640
Speaker 8: at the roster and like the batting averages, there's at

1979
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 8: least one, if not two players batting in the one

1980
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 8: hundreds below two hundred. Everybody for the Braves is in

1981
01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 8: the two hundred batty like everybody.

1982
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:32,800
Speaker 9: So right now it is a tie game against the

1983
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 9: Cubs to two.

1984
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 8: Top of the fifth inning, Rangers are blanking the Marlins.

1985
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:37,679
Speaker 9: It's three zero.

1986
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 8: They're about to start the bottom of the fourth inning,

1987
01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:41,839
Speaker 8: and the White Sox did beat the Guardians five to three.

1988
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 8: Guardians are now four games behind Minnesota for the top

1989
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 8: spot in the a L Central.

1990
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:51,160
Speaker 9: Back to you guys, go mon see shake it on.

1991
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:54,479
Speaker 2: Even if you're going by yourself, you gotta be there.

1992
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 8: Well, if I go by myself, then I gotta get

1993
01:48:56,439 --> 01:48:58,640
Speaker 8: like the cheapest seat, like behind the stage.

1994
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 9: And then try to mingle my way down.

1995
01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:00,720
Speaker 3: If I go.

1996
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:04,559
Speaker 2: Myself going to deny you min maybe I could.

1997
01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 9: Wear my Fox Sports radio badge.

1998
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:08,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1999
01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:10,719
Speaker 8: I just want to ask Taylor who is more famous?

2000
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:13,960
Speaker 8: You are Lebron James. That's what I would ask her.

2001
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 2: She says that Taylor Swift is right now the most

2002
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:20,639
Speaker 2: famous woman in the If.

2003
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:22,480
Speaker 1: She ran for president Chica West.

2004
01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:25,920
Speaker 2: One thousand, she ran against Michelle Obama, she would win.

2005
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 1: She ran against anything.

2006
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 8: Rich.

2007
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 9: Did you know Beyonce's on tour?

2008
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 3: I did, Actually I did, because she keeps popping up

2009
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:36,680
Speaker 3: on my TikTok.

2010
01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 8: Oh okay, but see even she's on tour and half

2011
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:39,960
Speaker 8: of the people don't even know.

2012
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:41,320
Speaker 9: It's crazy.

2013
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 8: And Beyonce at one point was you know, the top

2014
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:47,759
Speaker 8: top top and she's still up there, but Taylor Swift

2015
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:51,400
Speaker 8: has yes, and she still is but has sneaked in there,

2016
01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 8: sneaked in there.

2017
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:58,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I will not be there under any take my money, Steve.

2018
01:49:58,040 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 11: Steve won't be there, but there's like one hundred percent

2019
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 11: chance that somebody you know will.

2020
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 3: I would.

2021
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:06,120
Speaker 2: I still have to ask my daughter because she's seen

2022
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:07,400
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift and concert.

2023
01:50:08,120 --> 01:50:11,280
Speaker 10: Fox Sports radio personality Mike Carmon as he saw her

2024
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 10: Friday night.

2025
01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 2: He was there, how about that by himself? Hence he

2026
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 2: took his daughter.

2027
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 9: No, yeah, he took his daughter.

2028
01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:20,720
Speaker 11: My cousin texted me the other day he was like,

2029
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 11: do you know any way to get four Taylor Swift tickets?

2030
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 11: And I was like, yeah, you go buy a ski

2031
01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:27,760
Speaker 11: mask and then hang out in front of your.

2032
01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 2: Own Honestly, these tickets are tougher than Super Bowl tickets.

2033
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:33,800
Speaker 10: You somehow sneak into the bathroom, wait there for four days,

2034
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:34,920
Speaker 10: and then wait until a concerts starts.

2035
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:36,360
Speaker 2: That's a good one, you know, you just hide out

2036
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 2: eat peanuts. That's actually not a terrible idea. All right,

2037
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:42,639
Speaker 2: I am going to sell away bathroom. Okay, Moncey, thank

2038
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 2: you very much again. Listen to us, you'll be there.

2039
01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:48,000
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2043
01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 2: I loved playing the game each year in the NFL,

2044
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:02,400
Speaker 2: of which teams are going to rise from the Ashes.

2045
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:06,240
Speaker 2: So a year ago, at this time, Rich, imagine if

2046
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 2: I walk up to a betting window and I said,

2047
01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 2: I like to do a four team parlay, and I

2048
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 2: am betting on all four of these teams to have

2049
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 2: a winning record this season. And they're like, Okay, what

2050
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:27,480
Speaker 2: teams you got? Okay, I like to say the Pittsburgh Steelers,

2051
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:38,840
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars, the Detroit Lions, and the Seattle Seahawks.

2052
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:41,760
Speaker 2: Now they would laugh me away, saying, fine, if you

2053
01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 2: want us to take your money, we'll do just that. Well,

2054
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:47,719
Speaker 2: the fact is, going in at this time a year ago,

2055
01:51:48,680 --> 01:51:51,559
Speaker 2: the odds of any of those teams having a winning record.

2056
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 2: The Steelers with no Big Ben Well, Jacksonville coming off

2057
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 2: of season where they had the number one pick in the.

2058
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:03,760
Speaker 3: Draft and it was Kenny Pickett who were potentially going

2059
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 3: to be your starter. Jacksonville with the first time not

2060
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:09,720
Speaker 3: first time, but their first year with Peterson.

2061
01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 2: Well, I mean they're coming up back to back years

2062
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:13,320
Speaker 2: of having the number one overall pick. And then you

2063
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 2: have Detroit while the Lions speak for themselves, and Seattle

2064
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 2: a team that had just traded Russell Wilson away and

2065
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 2: had Drew Locke and.

2066
01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 3: Drew long Smith competing for the quarterback.

2067
01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:27,720
Speaker 2: So the odds of any of those teams having a

2068
01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:32,200
Speaker 2: winning record was long. Yeah, to say the least. The

2069
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:35,599
Speaker 2: idea of all four of those teams having a winning

2070
01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 2: record kind of odds could I have gotten?

2071
01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:38,559
Speaker 1: What do you think?

2072
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:39,559
Speaker 2: Thousand to one?

2073
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:40,200
Speaker 8: Oh?

2074
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 3: Man?

2075
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 1: I mean maybe more than that.

2076
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 2: I mean parlaye all four of those teams. Meaning if

2077
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 2: any one of those teams doesn't have a winning record,

2078
01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 2: I lose.

2079
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 3: I mean three thousand and one, easy, right, I mean yeah,

2080
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:56,719
Speaker 3: like I'm that's a long odds future. Bet here. Here's

2081
01:52:56,760 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 3: the thing though, Okay, the NFL is very very difficult

2082
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:04,839
Speaker 3: to predict for two reasons.

2083
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:06,879
Speaker 1: One injury.

2084
01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:11,520
Speaker 3: It is a there is such a huge, huge percentage

2085
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:15,000
Speaker 3: of stars that are unavailable at the end of the

2086
01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:17,720
Speaker 3: season compared to when the season starts. And it's a

2087
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:20,880
Speaker 3: long season. Even though it's only seventeen games. You compare

2088
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:24,400
Speaker 3: that to basketball or baseball, it seems much shorter. But

2089
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:28,599
Speaker 3: it's a long season because it's a grind those weeks

2090
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 3: preparing for the next battle. I mean, nobody's playing one

2091
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:35,200
Speaker 3: hundred percent healthy come the end of the season. And

2092
01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:37,920
Speaker 3: you could say that about other sports, but it's not

2093
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:39,880
Speaker 3: the war of attrition that football is.

2094
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:41,200
Speaker 1: So that's one part of it.

2095
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 3: The second part of it is the NFL is one

2096
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:49,720
Speaker 3: of those games where teams and players mature and cultures

2097
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:54,519
Speaker 3: grow at different rates. So Trevor Lawrence comes in, It

2098
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:56,800
Speaker 3: doesn't look great with Urban Meyer, but then all of

2099
01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:59,519
Speaker 3: a sudden in year two with a quarterback whisper like

2100
01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:02,679
Speaker 3: Doug p and a good defense and some tools around

2101
01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:06,360
Speaker 3: the offense, and about the half half point of the

2102
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 3: football season, it started to click in and you could

2103
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:13,120
Speaker 3: see how bright the future could be in Jacksonville. Same

2104
01:54:13,160 --> 01:54:17,559
Speaker 3: thing with the Detroit Lions. After an abysmal season with

2105
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:20,680
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell, it felt like the culture was clicking in.

2106
01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:26,240
Speaker 3: Gino Smith, out of nowhere, out of nowhere, has finally

2107
01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:29,800
Speaker 3: figured the thing out at the starting quarterback level.

2108
01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:33,400
Speaker 1: You know. So when you look at a season's.

2109
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 3: Preview and then to talk about the Pittsburgh Steelers, the

2110
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:40,440
Speaker 3: fourth leg of this parlay. The Pittsburgh Steelers, the only

2111
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 3: thing they had going for them was history, was the

2112
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 3: fact that Mike Tomlin has never had a losing season

2113
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:49,880
Speaker 3: as a head coach. And outside of that, I mean,

2114
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 3: it looked bleak. They had a bad offensive system a

2115
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 3: year ago with Ben Roethlisberger, and frankly, they still had

2116
01:54:56,040 --> 01:55:00,360
Speaker 3: a pretty bad offensive system this year with their with

2117
01:55:00,640 --> 01:55:04,720
Speaker 3: Matt Canada as the ROC, Kenny Pickett looked like he

2118
01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:09,320
Speaker 3: was coming in and surprising people with his athleticism. He

2119
01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 3: was winning games with the Pittsburgh Steelers based on sheer will.

2120
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:18,120
Speaker 3: The defense overplayed expectations, missing their star in what coming

2121
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:20,920
Speaker 3: off that edge. I mean it really, it really was

2122
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,440
Speaker 3: an odd start to the season for the Steelers, but

2123
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:27,560
Speaker 3: they were able to dismount and land with nine wins,

2124
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:28,400
Speaker 3: which was shocking.

2125
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this. How about if I

2126
01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 2: walked to the same window, They're like, wow, you were

2127
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:36,080
Speaker 2: unreal last year. With that, I said, I like to

2128
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:39,640
Speaker 2: do another four team parlay. I like to take the Steelers,

2129
01:55:39,680 --> 01:55:44,120
Speaker 2: the Jaguars, the Lions, and the Seahawks, and I want

2130
01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:48,839
Speaker 2: to do a parlay that they all have losing records

2131
01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:50,640
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three.

2132
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 1: The same teams, the.

2133
01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:54,480
Speaker 2: Same four teams that all finished the year at nine

2134
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:59,320
Speaker 2: and eight. All four of those teams have a losing

2135
01:55:59,400 --> 01:56:02,879
Speaker 2: record in twenty twenty three. We'll get to those odds.

2136
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports. Sunday. Monsie says three hour concert.

2137
01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 2: She would utter every word in unison with Taylor Swift

2138
01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:16,360
Speaker 2: for any song that she sings. Is that right?

2139
01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:19,480
Speaker 9: Every single song. I don't even like this song and

2140
01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:20,440
Speaker 9: I can sing every word.

2141
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:24,400
Speaker 2: This song is probably the one I know best most

2142
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:24,960
Speaker 2: people do.

2143
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:27,760
Speaker 8: I actually don't care for this song, Like the beat

2144
01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:30,040
Speaker 8: is fine, but I don't even care and I know

2145
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:32,440
Speaker 8: every word, so I should be there.

2146
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 2: There are a few groups I could do that with.

2147
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:39,040
Speaker 3: I absolutely love this song, of course you do. I

2148
01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:40,960
Speaker 3: mean it puts me in the best moves.

2149
01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 2: This is her biggest hit, right I was maybe bad?

2150
01:56:43,200 --> 01:56:43,640
Speaker 3: Yeah bad.

2151
01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 9: I mean, she has a lot of big I don't know.

2152
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:49,040
Speaker 8: I'm not but this is like a like a an

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Speaker 8: uppity song to get you going.

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Speaker 2: Sure yeah, oh shait yeah yeah.

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Speaker 9: You know what I mean, But it's not my favorite.

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Speaker 2: Steve Hartman and Rich Arnberger, Fox Sports Sunday, we are

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Speaker 2: live from the high IRAQ dot Com studios. All right,

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01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:05,440
Speaker 2: so I threw a parlay out at you before break

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01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:07,520
Speaker 2: is taking the four teams that I won all that

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01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:13,040
Speaker 2: money with a year ago. When I said that the Steelers, Jaguars, Lions,

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Speaker 2: and Seahawks would all have winning records. Now I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: turn it around, say they all have losing records in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. What do you think of that?

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Speaker 3: Well, when you look at the odds and win totals

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Speaker 3: for these teams, Pittsburgh and Seattle are at eight and

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Speaker 3: a half, right, Detroit and Jacksonville are at nine and

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Speaker 3: a half.

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Speaker 2: So they're right there.

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Speaker 3: You're deciding between whether or not you want to see

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh or Seattle have a winning season or not.

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Speaker 1: They put them right on that line.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying they all win eight or less games.

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Speaker 3: Well, so the fact of the matter is you would

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Speaker 3: have you would have longer odds last year to pick

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01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:02,400
Speaker 3: them as winners than this year to pick them as losers.

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Speaker 3: Is essentially what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me ask you this, So to one

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Speaker 2: of those teams.

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Speaker 3: At plus two thousands something like that, for all four

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Speaker 3: to have losing seasons.

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Speaker 2: I mean really four tremendous coaching jobs. Yeah, to get

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Speaker 2: those teams to nine and eight a year ago. All right, So,

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Speaker 2: if you were to rank those teams in terms of

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Speaker 2: what they'll do in twenty twenty three, which team is

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Speaker 2: the most likely to have? Well, which team would have

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Speaker 2: the most wins. Which team will have the least wins

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01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:35,480
Speaker 2: this year? Between the Steelers, Jaguars, Lions, and Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: Based on or division and where the division's presumably heading,

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh will have the worst season and Jacksonville will have

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Speaker 3: the best. Yeah, yeah, I mean when you look around

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Speaker 3: the AFC South, it looks very winnable, and Jacksonville's on

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Speaker 3: the right upward trend with Trevor Lawrence being the quarterback

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Speaker 3: of the next decade for them, you would assume, and

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Speaker 3: then there's still huge question marks a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Life could add the best record. I mean that NFC North.

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01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:04,080
Speaker 3: That's very winnable too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just look Jared Goff. We've seen a lot of

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Speaker 3: Jared Goff. We've seen one season that looks like it

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01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:13,320
Speaker 3: did last year.

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Speaker 2: Well, he had two great seasons with the Rams. He

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01:59:17,760 --> 01:59:21,040
Speaker 2: also had top great seasons. Well, he did have Todd

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01:59:21,080 --> 01:59:23,680
Speaker 2: Gurley at his peak, you're right, Yeah, and when Todd

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01:59:23,720 --> 01:59:26,120
Speaker 2: Gurley suddenly went down, yeah, he wasn't as good.

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Speaker 1: Now we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 3: Because the Detroit Lions just got a first round running

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01:59:31,240 --> 01:59:34,520
Speaker 3: back out of Alabama who they're high on. So life

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01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:37,640
Speaker 3: could get easy for Jared Goff. And again it was

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Speaker 3: great last year. He looked great last year, performed extremely well.

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Speaker 3: But I'm a big fan of what Trevor Lawrence is

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01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:47,480
Speaker 3: and what he could be in this NFL, in this league.

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Speaker 3: And I do think that the AFC South is a,

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01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:54,240
Speaker 3: I mean, a convincibly weaker division than even the NFC North.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's some divisions out there, the NFC South,

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01:59:57,680 --> 02:00:01,480
Speaker 2: which of course had four losing teams year ago, is

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02:00:01,480 --> 02:00:05,680
Speaker 2: that gonna be any better this year? Not looking good.

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Speaker 2: AFC South, NFC North, some pretty pretty slim pickings in

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Speaker 2: those divisions. By the way, on the other side, we

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Speaker 2: have a monumental programming note. Yeah, a monumental programming note.

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Speaker 2: Keep it here. This is Fox Sports Sunday. Continuing on

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Speaker 2: a very busy Sunday. This is Fox Sports Sunday, and

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Speaker 2: we are broadcasting live from the ti Raq dot com

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Speaker 2: begin this hour with a major programming note Rich, and

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Speaker 2: it's very self serving. But season two of Winning Time

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02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:10,040
Speaker 2: The Rise of the Lakers Dynasty Tonight premiers on HBO Max,

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02:01:10,360 --> 02:01:15,440
Speaker 2: and I was featured in three of the ten episodes

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02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:21,720
Speaker 2: in season one, as get this a sports talk radio

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02:01:21,840 --> 02:01:27,640
Speaker 2: show host. It's a stretch season two. There are just

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02:01:27,920 --> 02:01:31,720
Speaker 2: seven episodes in season two, and I know that I

2234
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:34,480
Speaker 2: will you'll hear my voice in at least five of

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02:01:34,480 --> 02:01:38,080
Speaker 2: those episodes in season two.

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Speaker 3: You are what I have always known you to be,

2237
02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:45,280
Speaker 3: which is a tireless self promoter.

2238
02:01:46,600 --> 02:01:49,600
Speaker 2: Shameless shameless now in your.

2239
02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:55,600
Speaker 3: Ability to highlight what you do, what you have done,

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Speaker 3: and what you will do.

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Speaker 2: Yes, no, No, I mean it is a joke for

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02:02:00,440 --> 02:02:04,240
Speaker 2: an attempt. No to once again, I know I wing

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02:02:04,320 --> 02:02:05,320
Speaker 2: on to any relevance.

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02:02:05,400 --> 02:02:08,040
Speaker 3: No, I refuse to allow you to deprecate yourself because

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02:02:08,280 --> 02:02:12,880
Speaker 3: I actually a I'm a huge fan of season one. Yes,

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02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:16,720
Speaker 3: thought that it was one of the best best shows

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02:02:16,760 --> 02:02:21,280
Speaker 3: on television last year. Second, I thought that you're I

2248
02:02:21,320 --> 02:02:23,360
Speaker 3: didn't get enough Steve Hartman last night.

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02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:24,800
Speaker 2: You're going to get more in season two.

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Speaker 3: So there you have it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, I for the record, Yeah, as you know, Rich,

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02:02:32,520 --> 02:02:36,880
Speaker 2: in December, as they were beginning to shoot season two.

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02:02:37,040 --> 02:02:40,320
Speaker 2: I get a phone call from the producers about appearing

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Speaker 2: in an episode. I said, Hey, I'm ready to go

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Speaker 2: down to the recording studio and they're like, no, we

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Speaker 2: want to put you on camera. And I'm like what.

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02:02:51,440 --> 02:02:56,920
Speaker 2: So I went down with my broadcast partner, my co host,

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02:02:57,000 --> 02:03:02,280
Speaker 2: over at KTLA in Los Angeles to shoot a scene

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02:03:04,240 --> 02:03:07,480
Speaker 2: and I, you know, I actually I've actually been on

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Speaker 2: television shows before, but this just seemed next level. Yeah,

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02:03:11,720 --> 02:03:13,920
Speaker 2: you know it. It was big time down at Warner

2262
02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:18,920
Speaker 2: Brothers and I go down there for hair, makeup, and wardrobe.

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02:03:19,360 --> 02:03:22,920
Speaker 2: I walked into the trailer for the hair lady. I

2264
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:25,200
Speaker 2: walked in and she looked at me and she's like, Wow,

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02:03:25,240 --> 02:03:28,040
Speaker 2: we don't have to do anything with your hair. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we're shooting someday. It's supposed to take place in nineteen

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02:03:30,520 --> 02:03:33,200
Speaker 2: eighty four, and you were spot on. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: like you got eighty four hair. Unfortunately, though, I did

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Speaker 2: come back when we shot the scene on Monday the

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Speaker 2: following Monday, and she got me in the chair and

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02:03:44,760 --> 02:03:46,920
Speaker 2: she just wanted to put a lot of product in

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Speaker 2: my hair. This is the days in the ages, you

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02:03:48,600 --> 02:03:50,800
Speaker 2: put a lot of stuff and then blow it out

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02:03:50,880 --> 02:03:54,080
Speaker 2: to puff out your hair, of course, and which she did.

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02:03:54,160 --> 02:03:56,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, you really want me to go on camera

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02:03:56,120 --> 02:03:59,360
Speaker 2: looking like this? So anyway, long story short, we shot

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02:03:59,400 --> 02:04:04,680
Speaker 2: the scene, took forever. Memorizing lines proved to be a

2278
02:04:04,760 --> 02:04:10,080
Speaker 2: challenge for at least one of us anyway, so we

2279
02:04:10,640 --> 02:04:12,520
Speaker 2: assumed that this scene's going to be there. And then

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Speaker 2: we came back to actually do some audio scenes, like

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02:04:15,280 --> 02:04:18,040
Speaker 2: you know again doing sports talk radio. And one of

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02:04:18,080 --> 02:04:22,000
Speaker 2: the scenes that we did audio one was very reminiscent

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02:04:22,040 --> 02:04:24,400
Speaker 2: because we can see the screen because everything obviously has

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02:04:24,440 --> 02:04:26,840
Speaker 2: got to sync up, and it was the scene that

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Speaker 2: we shot without us, So I think I assume that

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Speaker 2: our on screen time hit the cutting room floor.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, so your voice is going to be in

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02:04:40,360 --> 02:04:42,839
Speaker 3: the scene, just not your physical presence, right.

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Speaker 2: And then my partner seemed to be a little upset

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Speaker 2: about this possibility, and I asked them this question, I go,

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Speaker 2: did you did you see the movie?

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02:04:50,280 --> 02:04:50,600
Speaker 3: E T?

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02:04:51,640 --> 02:04:52,560
Speaker 2: Who hasn't seen ET?

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02:04:52,800 --> 02:04:52,960
Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 2: And do you remember how great Harrison Ford was in ET?

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Speaker 2: And you're like, Hare's Ford and E T. Harrison Ford

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Speaker 2: wasn't an ET. Well he could have been, and I'll

2298
02:05:05,120 --> 02:05:07,440
Speaker 2: tell you why. So he had just done Raiders of

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02:05:07,480 --> 02:05:10,800
Speaker 2: the Lost Arc with Steven Spielberg, pretty big hit coming

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Speaker 2: on the heels of his Star Wars movies. In other words,

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Speaker 2: Harrison Ford is the number one star in Hollywood. At

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Speaker 2: that point, Spielberg's next movie is et and Harrison Ford said, Hey, Steven,

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02:05:22,600 --> 02:05:26,960
Speaker 2: I'd love to maybe get a little cameo. Spielbord said great.

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Speaker 2: They shot a scene where Harrison Ford played a teacher

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Speaker 2: in a classroom for the boy that was the star

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Speaker 2: of the movie. You didn't see it because Spielberg and

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02:05:38,840 --> 02:05:42,240
Speaker 2: editing the movie said, eh, didn't really fit. He literally

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Speaker 2: cuts out the number one star in Hollywood out of

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Speaker 2: his movie.

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Speaker 1: Hey, then's the break and it happens all the time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in your acting career, you and Harrison Ford have

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Speaker 3: a lot more in common.

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Speaker 2: This is what I was telling about partner. I said,

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Speaker 2: Now you can say I'm like Harrison Ford, just like him,

2315
02:05:59,240 --> 02:06:02,080
Speaker 2: just like him. It is a fun show. I know

2316
02:06:02,200 --> 02:06:04,960
Speaker 2: that Jerry West, who is my idol by the way,

2317
02:06:05,440 --> 02:06:08,880
Speaker 2: is very upset about the way he has been portrayed

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Speaker 2: in this show. And all I can say for Jerry is, unfortunately,

2319
02:06:13,760 --> 02:06:15,680
Speaker 2: you're a public figure, and they can pretty much do

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Speaker 2: whatever they want. Now he's been threatening to take the

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court. What did you like about Season one? Is

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02:06:22,800 --> 02:06:23,400
Speaker 2: like any.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I love the portrayal of Jerry West, you know,

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Speaker 3: sort of the conflicted genius.

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Speaker 2: The over the top trophies windows.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because look, you knew it must be a hyperbolic representation.

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Speaker 3: But I thought the character, or the portrayal of the

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02:06:42,160 --> 02:06:48,800
Speaker 3: character made him a sympathetic figure. Like you, you wanted

2329
02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:51,160
Speaker 3: a root for that guy, because even though he was

2330
02:06:52,600 --> 02:06:58,080
Speaker 3: conflicted and and imperfect, there was something, there was something

2331
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Speaker 3: about him that you wanted to root for. Desperate. I

2332
02:07:01,480 --> 02:07:04,440
Speaker 3: loved h I loved the way or uh John c

2333
02:07:04,600 --> 02:07:08,120
Speaker 3: Ryles portrayal portrayal of Jerry Buss. Yes, I thought that

2334
02:07:08,320 --> 02:07:11,200
Speaker 3: was fantastic. I love the fact that they painted the

2335
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Speaker 3: picture of this, you know, magnificent showman that Jerry Buss was.

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02:07:16,800 --> 02:07:19,840
Speaker 3: But also how difficult it is to try to be

2337
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Speaker 3: a father to a daughter during this time period of

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Speaker 3: his life. Uh, and then also how difficult it was

2339
02:07:27,560 --> 02:07:30,919
Speaker 3: to be a son to a mother who was losing

2340
02:07:30,960 --> 02:07:33,120
Speaker 3: her grip. And yeah, I mean.

2341
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Speaker 2: Sally Field was outstanding.

2342
02:07:34,600 --> 02:07:38,160
Speaker 3: Sally Field was outstanding as the matriarch of the Buss family.

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Speaker 1: It was.

2344
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Speaker 3: It was just a very well acted, well conceived, well

2345
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:44,640
Speaker 3: written show and I can't wait for a season two.

2346
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Speaker 2: By the way, I was sitting here with our buddy

2347
02:07:46,600 --> 02:07:49,200
Speaker 2: Carrie Rhodes doing the show a couple of weeks ago,

2348
02:07:49,960 --> 02:07:52,280
Speaker 2: and I was mentioning this, you know scene that I

2349
02:07:52,320 --> 02:07:55,919
Speaker 2: did with the actor Quincy Isaiah who plays Magic Johnson

2350
02:07:55,960 --> 02:08:01,760
Speaker 2: in this series, and Carrie had a second callback for

2351
02:08:01,840 --> 02:08:05,800
Speaker 2: that role. No way, Yeah, I mean Carry's an actor, right, Yeah,

2352
02:08:05,800 --> 02:08:10,440
Speaker 2: and so he actually got a second callback for the

2353
02:08:10,560 --> 02:08:13,120
Speaker 2: role of Magic Johnson in this Wow.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that. Yes, Yeah, Kerry and I played

2355
02:08:15,760 --> 02:08:20,400
Speaker 3: together in Arizona. Yes, he was one of my favorite

2356
02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:23,880
Speaker 3: guys because he's super duper smart, and you knew that

2357
02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:27,200
Speaker 3: he was going to do something beyond football after he

2358
02:08:27,280 --> 02:08:29,880
Speaker 3: was like, you know, I had no idea he was

2359
02:08:29,920 --> 02:08:32,040
Speaker 3: a talented actor, but I've seen some of his work

2360
02:08:32,080 --> 02:08:35,840
Speaker 3: and he is and and radio is perfect for him because,

2361
02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:38,000
Speaker 3: like I said, he's a thoughtful guy. And so I'm

2362
02:08:38,000 --> 02:08:41,480
Speaker 3: glad to see that he's in the Fox Sports Radio galaxy.

2363
02:08:41,640 --> 02:08:44,280
Speaker 3: And I hope you're not teaching him too many bad habits.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's all.

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02:08:45,440 --> 02:08:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, So check it out on HBO that is Winning

2366
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:52,880
Speaker 2: time and see if you can hear my voice. Yeah,

2367
02:08:53,120 --> 02:08:56,560
Speaker 2: they amplify it a little bit because everything I say,

2368
02:08:56,680 --> 02:08:58,720
Speaker 2: it's funny. Every time they hand me one of the

2369
02:08:58,760 --> 02:09:02,000
Speaker 2: scripts I go to. I ever say anything positive about

2370
02:09:02,320 --> 02:09:05,800
Speaker 2: any of these people, it's always I'm ripping Magic, I'm

2371
02:09:05,880 --> 02:09:10,080
Speaker 2: ripping Kareem, I'm ripping Riley, I'm ripping Boss. Is there ever?

2372
02:09:10,440 --> 02:09:10,680
Speaker 3: They go?

2373
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:15,800
Speaker 2: Just read the script, Okay, just read the script? All right?

2374
02:09:15,880 --> 02:09:19,640
Speaker 2: So all right, So I wanted to get back to

2375
02:09:19,680 --> 02:09:21,760
Speaker 2: the NFL for a second here because you mentioned this

2376
02:09:21,840 --> 02:09:27,600
Speaker 2: a little bit earlier, the perceived predicament facing the San

2377
02:09:27,600 --> 02:09:31,040
Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine ers as far as the quarterback position

2378
02:09:31,120 --> 02:09:34,800
Speaker 2: is concerned. I think that if you are being objective here,

2379
02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:40,280
Speaker 2: if you take the quarterback out of the equation, which

2380
02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:42,680
Speaker 2: is a big if, but if you take the quarterback

2381
02:09:42,760 --> 02:09:46,400
Speaker 2: out of the equation, I don't think there is a

2382
02:09:46,440 --> 02:09:51,040
Speaker 2: better roster anywhere in the NFL than the San Francisco

2383
02:09:51,080 --> 02:09:54,920
Speaker 2: forty nine ers on both sides of the football. I mean,

2384
02:09:54,960 --> 02:09:59,640
Speaker 2: they've got skill guys that are upper echelon. They have

2385
02:09:59,800 --> 02:10:03,680
Speaker 2: d defensive players that are upper echelon. If you'd take

2386
02:10:03,840 --> 02:10:08,640
Speaker 2: quarterback out, whether it's the Chiefs, the Bills, the Eagles,

2387
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:11,960
Speaker 2: I think the forty nine ers have the best roster

2388
02:10:12,400 --> 02:10:13,960
Speaker 2: save quarterback in the NFL.

2389
02:10:14,920 --> 02:10:19,120
Speaker 3: Uh Okay, outside the quarterback position, I can see that argument.

2390
02:10:19,360 --> 02:10:22,120
Speaker 3: But the quarterback is the most important I understand that

2391
02:10:22,360 --> 02:10:25,480
Speaker 3: in the league, and so the Philadelphia Eagles have the

2392
02:10:26,040 --> 02:10:30,960
Speaker 3: top rated roster. In my opinion, Jalen Hurts outperformed Patrick

2393
02:10:31,000 --> 02:10:33,880
Speaker 3: Mahomes in the Super Bowl. I mean there is no

2394
02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:37,360
Speaker 3: question about it. Okay, go back and look at the statistics.

2395
02:10:37,520 --> 02:10:39,640
Speaker 3: Go back and look at the games they both played. Now,

2396
02:10:39,720 --> 02:10:42,120
Speaker 3: don't don't get me drop the ball.

2397
02:10:42,640 --> 02:10:44,800
Speaker 2: He handed them a touchdown that proved to be the

2398
02:10:44,800 --> 02:10:46,880
Speaker 2: difference in the game. You know that I am a

2399
02:10:47,080 --> 02:10:50,840
Speaker 2: huge and I was in some bandwagon Hurts fan. You

2400
02:10:50,920 --> 02:10:53,840
Speaker 2: know that I was a Hurts fan from the get game.

2401
02:10:53,920 --> 02:10:56,680
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that he didn't have a fatal flaw,

2402
02:10:57,160 --> 02:10:59,720
Speaker 3: a terrible moment in that game, which he did.

2403
02:10:59,560 --> 02:11:01,120
Speaker 2: Which I'll cost him the game.

2404
02:11:01,600 --> 02:11:04,520
Speaker 3: But if you look at the way he was able

2405
02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:06,840
Speaker 3: to play when all the lights were on, yea, it

2406
02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:09,760
Speaker 3: just proves to you two things. One what we saw

2407
02:11:09,800 --> 02:11:12,680
Speaker 3: in college wasn't a fluke. He's a champion and he

2408
02:11:12,680 --> 02:11:15,080
Speaker 3: can play at a champion level at this level.

2409
02:11:15,640 --> 02:11:18,640
Speaker 1: And two, it's it's.

2410
02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:22,320
Speaker 3: Only just the beginning, Like he's gotten better every season

2411
02:11:22,720 --> 02:11:25,280
Speaker 3: and the fact that now he has that performance under

2412
02:11:25,280 --> 02:11:28,960
Speaker 3: his belt, it's not like it's gonna be a great regression.

2413
02:11:29,400 --> 02:11:33,200
Speaker 3: They've only gotten better on offense in terms of talent acquisition, right,

2414
02:11:33,320 --> 02:11:36,640
Speaker 3: They've only gotten better on defense in terms of talent acquisition.

2415
02:11:37,120 --> 02:11:40,480
Speaker 3: This roster improved over this offseason, and they were a

2416
02:11:40,520 --> 02:11:45,080
Speaker 3: super Bowl team last year. So the Philadelphia Eagles, I

2417
02:11:45,120 --> 02:11:48,360
Speaker 3: mean again, if you want to exclude the quarterback position,

2418
02:11:49,000 --> 02:11:52,440
Speaker 3: I'll I'll give the edge to the San Francisco forty

2419
02:11:52,520 --> 02:11:53,960
Speaker 3: nine ers, but barely.

2420
02:11:54,160 --> 02:11:58,120
Speaker 2: Okay, but you got Kyle Shanahan. And by the way,

2421
02:11:58,160 --> 02:12:04,840
Speaker 2: this whole Kyle Shanahan trumpeting the incredible skill set of

2422
02:12:04,880 --> 02:12:10,720
Speaker 2: Brock Purty is pretty incredible. And the reason that they

2423
02:12:11,440 --> 02:12:13,840
Speaker 2: went a different direction to quarterback a couple of years

2424
02:12:13,880 --> 02:12:19,200
Speaker 2: ago in the draft was specifically because Kyle Shanahan felt

2425
02:12:19,240 --> 02:12:21,840
Speaker 2: he was limited with Jimmy Garoppolo and what he could

2426
02:12:21,880 --> 02:12:24,480
Speaker 2: do with his offense, Like I need I need a

2427
02:12:24,560 --> 02:12:27,520
Speaker 2: quarterback with a greater skill set so I can expand

2428
02:12:27,600 --> 02:12:33,160
Speaker 2: my offense. And now all of a sudden he is maintaining,

2429
02:12:33,440 --> 02:12:36,400
Speaker 2: like you're just talking about Jalen Hurts is the real deal.

2430
02:12:36,560 --> 02:12:39,040
Speaker 2: I one hundred percent agree. I don't have any concerns

2431
02:12:39,040 --> 02:12:42,440
Speaker 2: about You know, my argument for years before Hurts was

2432
02:12:42,480 --> 02:12:45,080
Speaker 2: given that opportunity is, remember we used to bring people on.

2433
02:12:45,160 --> 02:12:48,200
Speaker 2: I used to say, what is the ceiling on Jalen Hurts?

2434
02:12:48,440 --> 02:12:50,880
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure this out. What is the what's

2435
02:12:50,880 --> 02:12:53,400
Speaker 2: the ceiling out a guy like Hurts? Everyone was wrong

2436
02:12:54,160 --> 02:12:56,880
Speaker 2: the way underestimated his ceiling. Oh, of course, But I

2437
02:12:56,880 --> 02:13:02,080
Speaker 2: mean with Brock Purty, is he I mean when when

2438
02:13:02,160 --> 02:13:05,760
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan says he is the real deal, that what

2439
02:13:05,800 --> 02:13:09,000
Speaker 2: we saw a year ago is not a fluke, assuming

2440
02:13:09,000 --> 02:13:10,960
Speaker 2: that he's one hundred percent healthy, Do you buy that?

2441
02:13:11,680 --> 02:13:13,880
Speaker 1: Well, I can buy it.

2442
02:13:14,000 --> 02:13:14,520
Speaker 3: I don't.

2443
02:13:15,080 --> 02:13:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that.

2444
02:13:15,880 --> 02:13:19,960
Speaker 3: I'm not. I wouldn't put it in the category of

2445
02:13:20,080 --> 02:13:25,280
Speaker 3: inconceivable that he could be a great quarterback because we've

2446
02:13:25,320 --> 02:13:29,200
Speaker 3: seen a sixth rounder become the greatest quarterback of all times,

2447
02:13:29,240 --> 02:13:31,960
Speaker 3: so it's not beyond me to imagine that a seventh

2448
02:13:32,040 --> 02:13:33,320
Speaker 3: rounder could do the same thing.

2449
02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:35,800
Speaker 1: Potentially, But what.

2450
02:13:35,680 --> 02:13:39,800
Speaker 3: We saw was brock Purty gifted a team and the

2451
02:13:40,080 --> 02:13:43,520
Speaker 3: large majority of a season in preparation to play with

2452
02:13:43,600 --> 02:13:46,480
Speaker 3: these teammates of his on the forty nine ers starting

2453
02:13:46,520 --> 02:13:54,120
Speaker 3: offense that that was already full of inertia heading toward

2454
02:13:54,160 --> 02:13:57,800
Speaker 3: a playoff bound season, and he just didn't screw it up.

2455
02:13:57,920 --> 02:14:01,720
Speaker 3: Now as he progressed the final games of the season,

2456
02:14:01,840 --> 02:14:05,200
Speaker 3: he made some plays out arguably won them games down

2457
02:14:05,240 --> 02:14:07,840
Speaker 3: the stretch. But I don't think the pressure was ever

2458
02:14:07,960 --> 02:14:10,640
Speaker 3: on brock Party. I don't think the pressure was ever

2459
02:14:10,680 --> 02:14:13,240
Speaker 3: on brock Party. He was just filling in. He was

2460
02:14:13,360 --> 02:14:17,600
Speaker 3: this guy who, gosh, just keep the wheels on, yes, right, yeah,

2461
02:14:17,640 --> 02:14:19,560
Speaker 3: And so he was able to do that. He kept

2462
02:14:19,600 --> 02:14:22,240
Speaker 3: the wheels on. And then after that it was boyle boy,

2463
02:14:22,320 --> 02:14:26,320
Speaker 3: he's impressive. Can he take this team deep into the postseason?

2464
02:14:26,760 --> 02:14:27,400
Speaker 3: And he did.

2465
02:14:27,920 --> 02:14:28,640
Speaker 1: And then the.

2466
02:14:28,600 --> 02:14:32,280
Speaker 3: Thought was, my goodness, is brock Purty gonna win us

2467
02:14:32,280 --> 02:14:33,000
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl?

2468
02:14:33,200 --> 02:14:37,520
Speaker 1: And the answer, look, it's no, but we can make He.

2469
02:14:37,440 --> 02:14:40,760
Speaker 3: Got hurt and he got hurt bad, so there's there's

2470
02:14:40,800 --> 02:14:43,640
Speaker 3: no there's no way to tell for sure what would

2471
02:14:43,680 --> 02:14:47,360
Speaker 3: have happened if he didn't. But but the answer was

2472
02:14:47,440 --> 02:14:51,960
Speaker 3: essentially no, now the pressure's on. Look, the NFL is

2473
02:14:52,000 --> 02:14:56,760
Speaker 3: a cauldron of superstars, and not only at the field level.

2474
02:14:56,520 --> 02:14:58,400
Speaker 1: But also at the coaching level.

2475
02:14:58,840 --> 02:15:01,400
Speaker 3: You have the best in the bright is working day

2476
02:15:01,400 --> 02:15:03,560
Speaker 3: and night to try to take you apart.

2477
02:15:04,480 --> 02:15:05,560
Speaker 1: And now the pressure's on.

2478
02:15:05,920 --> 02:15:09,360
Speaker 3: Now. Everybody saw how you finished the season last year,

2479
02:15:09,560 --> 02:15:12,960
Speaker 3: and now the target is squarely on your back. Say

2480
02:15:13,000 --> 02:15:16,160
Speaker 3: what you will about Jimmy Garoppolo, over the course of

2481
02:15:16,160 --> 02:15:18,640
Speaker 3: his time as a San Francisco forty nine Ers quarterback,

2482
02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:22,680
Speaker 3: it appeared that he could handle the pressure to a point. Now,

2483
02:15:22,720 --> 02:15:26,200
Speaker 3: he didn't get them over that ledge to become a

2484
02:15:26,240 --> 02:15:29,560
Speaker 3: super Bowl team during the John Lynch Kyle Shanahan era

2485
02:15:29,720 --> 02:15:31,760
Speaker 3: so far, and that's the reason why they've moved off

2486
02:15:31,760 --> 02:15:34,520
Speaker 3: of Jimmy Garoppolo. They tried to draft Trey Lance and

2487
02:15:34,560 --> 02:15:36,800
Speaker 3: now it looks like it's going to be Brock's team

2488
02:15:36,840 --> 02:15:40,240
Speaker 3: at least at first. But I'm telling you right now,

2489
02:15:40,680 --> 02:15:43,040
Speaker 3: the pressure is on in a big way. And this

2490
02:15:43,120 --> 02:15:45,240
Speaker 3: is where the rubber meets the road. This is where

2491
02:15:45,240 --> 02:15:47,200
Speaker 3: we find out whether or not he can play in

2492
02:15:47,240 --> 02:15:47,800
Speaker 3: this league.

2493
02:15:48,320 --> 02:15:52,680
Speaker 2: By the way, some of the feedback that we've been

2494
02:15:52,680 --> 02:15:54,720
Speaker 2: getting out of forty nine Ers camp as far as

2495
02:15:54,800 --> 02:15:59,880
Speaker 2: Trey Lance and Sam Darnold is concerned. Not great, Yeah,

2496
02:16:00,120 --> 02:16:03,280
Speaker 2: not great in fact, Sam Donald, Yeah, I keep thinking

2497
02:16:03,280 --> 02:16:06,280
Speaker 2: you're telling me Sam Darnold doesn't have a skill set

2498
02:16:06,320 --> 02:16:09,920
Speaker 2: of a brock Party. He may be better athlete, but

2499
02:16:10,040 --> 02:16:13,400
Speaker 2: he's not a better quarterback. He's not doing well in

2500
02:16:13,480 --> 02:16:16,160
Speaker 2: camp right now with the forty nine ers, and Trey

2501
02:16:16,240 --> 02:16:19,920
Speaker 2: Lance is okay, not much better than that. All right,

2502
02:16:19,960 --> 02:16:22,120
Speaker 2: We got much more NFL news to get to this

2503
02:16:22,800 --> 02:16:29,360
Speaker 2: his Fox Sports Sunday. The Hell's happening here, Sam, But

2504
02:16:29,520 --> 02:16:37,000
Speaker 2: that Wow, Steve Harbin, Rich Ornberger.

2505
02:16:36,800 --> 02:16:39,240
Speaker 10: This is this is Steve soundtrack for when he was,

2506
02:16:40,200 --> 02:16:42,760
Speaker 10: you know, getting getting ready for the for the shooting

2507
02:16:42,840 --> 02:16:43,360
Speaker 10: waiting time.

2508
02:16:43,440 --> 02:16:43,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, my.

2509
02:16:45,400 --> 02:16:48,320
Speaker 10: Perpetual eighties. Look, this is Donna Summer, by the way. Yeah,

2510
02:16:48,320 --> 02:16:50,240
Speaker 10: it's a great late great Donna summer.

2511
02:16:50,879 --> 02:16:53,160
Speaker 2: You know, there was a period for those at us

2512
02:16:53,200 --> 02:16:57,680
Speaker 2: to remember where it was basically a constant stream in

2513
02:16:57,800 --> 02:17:03,160
Speaker 2: AM radio, which long before FM took over, where you

2514
02:17:03,200 --> 02:17:08,039
Speaker 2: have your top hits shows radio stations, and it was

2515
02:17:08,080 --> 02:17:11,440
Speaker 2: just BG's Dona Summer, BG's Dona Summer, BG's Donna Summer,

2516
02:17:11,520 --> 02:17:13,320
Speaker 2: just back and forth on the day. Once again, we're

2517
02:17:13,360 --> 02:17:16,120
Speaker 2: live from the Tirak dot com studios. I want to

2518
02:17:16,120 --> 02:17:18,200
Speaker 2: make a quick note here, Rich. I don't know if

2519
02:17:18,200 --> 02:17:20,119
Speaker 2: you got to see any of the Hall of Fame

2520
02:17:20,200 --> 02:17:24,920
Speaker 2: speeches yesterday, and I know it just you cringe every

2521
02:17:24,920 --> 02:17:27,040
Speaker 2: time I bring up Hall of Fame. But there were

2522
02:17:27,120 --> 02:17:32,560
Speaker 2: two highlights for me yesterday. One was the introduction of

2523
02:17:32,600 --> 02:17:33,240
Speaker 2: Marv Levy.

2524
02:17:33,240 --> 02:17:33,440
Speaker 3: There.

2525
02:17:34,959 --> 02:17:38,800
Speaker 2: Marv Levy on Thursday celebrated his ninety eighth birthday.

2526
02:17:39,120 --> 02:17:39,600
Speaker 3: Wow.

2527
02:17:40,120 --> 02:17:42,840
Speaker 2: To give you a little perspective on that one, he

2528
02:17:43,040 --> 02:17:47,640
Speaker 2: was born Calvin Coolidge was the president, and all movies

2529
02:17:47,640 --> 02:17:53,080
Speaker 2: were still silent. There had not been a sound movie yet,

2530
02:17:54,120 --> 02:17:57,400
Speaker 2: So that's when Marv Levy was born in nineteen twenty five.

2531
02:17:59,280 --> 02:18:01,680
Speaker 2: But not only is he ninety eight, but he is

2532
02:18:01,840 --> 02:18:05,279
Speaker 2: like a spry ninety eight, Like he was just sitting

2533
02:18:05,280 --> 02:18:07,680
Speaker 2: with the other Hall of famers and he stood up,

2534
02:18:07,760 --> 02:18:11,640
Speaker 2: waved to the people, apparently was interacting with everybody just

2535
02:18:11,760 --> 02:18:16,520
Speaker 2: like another day at age ninety eight. So God bless

2536
02:18:16,560 --> 02:18:19,000
Speaker 2: this man. I mean, that is an example. I don't

2537
02:18:19,000 --> 02:18:21,720
Speaker 2: know what he did or how he's done it, but

2538
02:18:22,080 --> 02:18:24,920
Speaker 2: he is very much alive and well at age ninety eight.

2539
02:18:24,959 --> 02:18:25,920
Speaker 2: So good from Marv Levy.

2540
02:18:26,000 --> 02:18:29,720
Speaker 3: Well me and Marv obviously have taken care of our

2541
02:18:29,720 --> 02:18:31,520
Speaker 3: bodies really well over the years.

2542
02:18:31,520 --> 02:18:34,000
Speaker 2: You're very similar, and so I have.

2543
02:18:34,000 --> 02:18:36,879
Speaker 3: A feeling when I'm ninety eight, Yeah, and at that

2544
02:18:37,000 --> 02:18:39,039
Speaker 3: point you'll be one hundred and thirty eight.

2545
02:18:39,040 --> 02:18:40,320
Speaker 2: I believe something like that.

2546
02:18:40,480 --> 02:18:44,480
Speaker 3: We will be here on Fox Sports Sunday. Yeah, heading

2547
02:18:44,520 --> 02:18:48,680
Speaker 3: into our next NFL season, which at that point it'll

2548
02:18:48,720 --> 02:18:51,800
Speaker 3: be two hand touch on the quarterback. The sky judge

2549
02:18:51,879 --> 02:18:55,520
Speaker 3: will have be institute at twenty years prior, and we

2550
02:18:55,560 --> 02:18:57,199
Speaker 3: will now have forty.

2551
02:18:56,840 --> 02:19:00,480
Speaker 2: Teams, yes, at least forty teams. The other the highlight

2552
02:19:00,520 --> 02:19:03,240
Speaker 2: for me was finally to hear the name Don Coriel

2553
02:19:03,800 --> 02:19:06,160
Speaker 2: announced as a Pro Football Hall of Famer.

2554
02:19:06,240 --> 02:19:08,560
Speaker 3: I agree with this. This is if you're gonna have

2555
02:19:08,720 --> 02:19:11,760
Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame and you're not going to include

2556
02:19:11,920 --> 02:19:14,320
Speaker 3: Don Coriel, then what the hell are you doing here?

2557
02:19:14,360 --> 02:19:17,080
Speaker 2: Here's what I tell people about Coriel when they look

2558
02:19:17,120 --> 02:19:19,640
Speaker 2: at his three and six mark in postseason, that he

2559
02:19:19,720 --> 02:19:22,160
Speaker 2: never got to a Super Bowl. By the way, it's

2560
02:19:22,200 --> 02:19:24,800
Speaker 2: amazing that he coached two teams in the NFL that

2561
02:19:24,879 --> 02:19:29,040
Speaker 2: don't exist, the Saint Louis Cardinals and the San Diego Chargers.

2562
02:19:29,320 --> 02:19:30,320
Speaker 2: Just throwing it out there.

2563
02:19:30,240 --> 02:19:34,480
Speaker 3: Anyways, good point, and he was made. He was responsible

2564
02:19:34,560 --> 02:19:35,040
Speaker 3: for both.

2565
02:19:35,240 --> 02:19:40,240
Speaker 2: Yes, he took over two miserable franchises and literally overnight

2566
02:19:40,320 --> 02:19:43,160
Speaker 2: made him winners. His cardinal years almost forgotten, but he

2567
02:19:43,200 --> 02:19:46,039
Speaker 2: went back to back division titles at the height of

2568
02:19:46,120 --> 02:19:48,640
Speaker 2: the Cowboys and the Redskins as they were then known,

2569
02:19:49,080 --> 02:19:53,640
Speaker 2: dominating that NFC East. The Chargers were beyond bad before

2570
02:19:53,680 --> 02:19:58,440
Speaker 2: he introduced Eric Coriel. But two of his assistant coaches,

2571
02:19:58,840 --> 02:20:02,360
Speaker 2: two coaches that are in the Pro Football Hall of

2572
02:20:02,400 --> 02:20:07,080
Speaker 2: Fame who literally got their coaching careers started as assisting

2573
02:20:07,280 --> 02:20:14,560
Speaker 2: coaches under Don Coriel at San Diego State were Joe

2574
02:20:14,600 --> 02:20:18,840
Speaker 2: Gibbs and John Madden, and both of them, in their

2575
02:20:18,879 --> 02:20:22,560
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame induction speeches, mentioned the fact that it

2576
02:20:22,600 --> 02:20:25,560
Speaker 2: was hard for them to fathom how they could be

2577
02:20:25,600 --> 02:20:28,240
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame when the man they learned

2578
02:20:28,280 --> 02:20:30,560
Speaker 2: everything from is not in the Hall of Fame.

2579
02:20:30,920 --> 02:20:31,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2580
02:20:31,560 --> 02:20:35,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the reverence that anyone had for Don Coriel,

2581
02:20:36,920 --> 02:20:39,080
Speaker 2: and I was so happy. Dan Fouts obviously is a

2582
02:20:39,120 --> 02:20:42,800
Speaker 2: great quarterback who was a complete nobody at the professional

2583
02:20:42,879 --> 02:20:48,120
Speaker 2: level until Coriel showed up, you know, finally had his day. So,

2584
02:20:48,720 --> 02:20:50,600
Speaker 2: you know, I go back and forth on this whole

2585
02:20:50,640 --> 02:20:53,240
Speaker 2: idea of you know, just is it right to have

2586
02:20:53,280 --> 02:20:56,840
Speaker 2: too many people in the Hall of Fame. You know,

2587
02:20:56,959 --> 02:20:58,840
Speaker 2: if it was up to me, the way I would

2588
02:20:58,920 --> 02:21:00,879
Speaker 2: do the voting would be very simple. The idea of

2589
02:21:00,879 --> 02:21:04,320
Speaker 2: being on the ballot fifteen times, to me is crazy. Look,

2590
02:21:04,680 --> 02:21:08,280
Speaker 2: you retire five years, you have a room of people

2591
02:21:08,360 --> 02:21:10,920
Speaker 2: that should know what they're talking about in terms of

2592
02:21:11,200 --> 02:21:13,039
Speaker 2: who should belong in the Hall of Fame or not,

2593
02:21:13,640 --> 02:21:15,680
Speaker 2: and you have a vote, and then everyone has a

2594
02:21:15,720 --> 02:21:17,959
Speaker 2: second chance, okay, And so if you don't get in

2595
02:21:18,040 --> 02:21:21,560
Speaker 2: that first time five years later, so now there's ten

2596
02:21:21,680 --> 02:21:24,760
Speaker 2: years removed. Yeah, for you to really have plenty of

2597
02:21:24,840 --> 02:21:27,400
Speaker 2: time to think about is this guy a Hall of Famer?

2598
02:21:28,120 --> 02:21:29,920
Speaker 2: And if you don't make it bad time, then I'm

2599
02:21:29,920 --> 02:21:32,000
Speaker 2: sorry you weren't a Hall of Famer. That's the way

2600
02:21:32,000 --> 02:21:32,560
Speaker 2: I would do it.

2601
02:21:32,600 --> 02:21:33,800
Speaker 3: I think.

2602
02:21:34,800 --> 02:21:36,600
Speaker 1: I think it's I again.

2603
02:21:36,760 --> 02:21:40,800
Speaker 3: I went to the Hall of Fame, and I respect

2604
02:21:40,840 --> 02:21:43,720
Speaker 3: and revere the greatness of the players that came before

2605
02:21:45,000 --> 02:21:48,160
Speaker 3: before my career started, and now it's ended and all

2606
02:21:48,200 --> 02:21:52,840
Speaker 3: that stuff like. But the reality is I hate the

2607
02:21:52,879 --> 02:22:00,240
Speaker 3: fact that it's gate held by people who, for whatever

2608
02:22:00,400 --> 02:22:02,800
Speaker 3: variety of reasons, will keep people out of the Halls

2609
02:22:02,800 --> 02:22:05,680
Speaker 3: of Fame. And this is across all sports, whether it

2610
02:22:05,680 --> 02:22:09,080
Speaker 3: be the NAA Smith Pro Basketball or basketball Hall of Fame,

2611
02:22:09,400 --> 02:22:13,000
Speaker 3: it's Pro n amateur, or it's the baseball Hall of

2612
02:22:13,000 --> 02:22:16,040
Speaker 3: Fame in Cooperstown, New York, or the football Hall of

2613
02:22:16,120 --> 02:22:20,000
Speaker 3: Fame in Canton. I just think that every time we

2614
02:22:20,080 --> 02:22:24,400
Speaker 3: have this discussion. I agree with you about criteria, and

2615
02:22:24,480 --> 02:22:27,080
Speaker 3: I agree with you about a lot of the things

2616
02:22:27,120 --> 02:22:29,000
Speaker 3: that you say. I think we have a lot of

2617
02:22:29,040 --> 02:22:32,120
Speaker 3: common ground, But I just can't stand the fact that

2618
02:22:32,360 --> 02:22:34,879
Speaker 3: still to this day, we have to rely on the

2619
02:22:34,920 --> 02:22:38,360
Speaker 3: subjectivity of Hall of Fame voters to tell us who

2620
02:22:38,360 --> 02:22:38,959
Speaker 3: the greats are.

2621
02:22:39,080 --> 02:22:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know who they are.

2622
02:22:40,360 --> 02:22:41,040
Speaker 2: Don Coriel.

2623
02:22:41,760 --> 02:22:45,320
Speaker 3: Anybody who pays attention to football and understands influence he had.

2624
02:22:45,280 --> 02:22:47,320
Speaker 2: It still has an influence on the game.

2625
02:22:48,520 --> 02:22:50,600
Speaker 3: Understands that he should have been in the Hall of Fame,

2626
02:22:50,640 --> 02:22:53,800
Speaker 3: and for whatever reason, the gatekeeper said no. And I

2627
02:22:53,840 --> 02:22:56,680
Speaker 3: think that's that happens so often with the Hall of

2628
02:22:56,680 --> 02:22:59,600
Speaker 3: Fame that it's sickening, and that's the reason why I

2629
02:22:59,600 --> 02:23:00,879
Speaker 3: don't have a lot of respect for it.

2630
02:23:00,920 --> 02:23:02,480
Speaker 2: By the way, on the other side, I have a

2631
02:23:02,520 --> 02:23:05,039
Speaker 2: quick question about one potential Hall of Famer that is

2632
02:23:05,080 --> 02:23:07,560
Speaker 2: close to you. Okay, I want to ask you specific

2633
02:23:07,680 --> 02:23:11,520
Speaker 2: about one potential Hall of Famer coming up this year,

2634
02:23:11,560 --> 02:23:14,080
Speaker 2: but first let's find out what it's trending right now.

2635
02:23:14,240 --> 02:23:17,240
Speaker 2: Is well, this is a no brain. This is one

2636
02:23:17,240 --> 02:23:20,360
Speaker 2: of those names Monty Belanios like they would sit there

2637
02:23:20,360 --> 02:23:22,960
Speaker 2: and like, you know, it's like Peyton Manning, like we

2638
02:23:23,280 --> 02:23:25,640
Speaker 2: don't need to have any wasted discussion.

2639
02:23:26,080 --> 02:23:26,840
Speaker 9: I'd stop it.

2640
02:23:26,920 --> 02:23:28,920
Speaker 2: I mean, there's others we could, you know, argue about,

2641
02:23:28,959 --> 02:23:30,920
Speaker 2: but some just get a quick pass.

2642
02:23:30,959 --> 02:23:34,640
Speaker 9: Oh stop it, thank you, thank you.

2643
02:23:35,240 --> 02:23:38,039
Speaker 2: Let's let's talk about, you know, the controversy of the

2644
02:23:38,040 --> 02:23:39,920
Speaker 2: other knuckleheads on the air, right.

2645
02:23:40,000 --> 02:23:41,440
Speaker 9: We want we'll do that off the air.

2646
02:23:41,480 --> 02:23:42,080
Speaker 3: How about that?

2647
02:23:42,200 --> 02:23:42,600
Speaker 2: Perfect?

2648
02:23:42,800 --> 02:23:43,360
Speaker 9: All right, guys.

2649
02:23:43,400 --> 02:23:47,360
Speaker 8: According to the NFL Network, Jamar Chase is telling Joe

2650
02:23:47,360 --> 02:23:50,959
Speaker 8: Burrow to not play Week one, not because he doesn't

2651
02:23:51,000 --> 02:23:53,360
Speaker 8: want him to, but he's like, if you are not

2652
02:23:53,520 --> 02:23:57,000
Speaker 8: one hundred percent from your calf injury, please do not play.

2653
02:23:57,520 --> 02:23:59,600
Speaker 8: Because reports are saying that he's going to be ready

2654
02:23:59,600 --> 02:24:03,440
Speaker 8: for a Week one Joe Burrow, but apparently Jamar Chase

2655
02:24:03,480 --> 02:24:04,879
Speaker 8: is like, no, no, no, I don't want you on

2656
02:24:04,920 --> 02:24:05,199
Speaker 8: the field.

2657
02:24:05,720 --> 02:24:07,560
Speaker 9: You please take care of that.

2658
02:24:07,640 --> 02:24:07,920
Speaker 8: Calf.

2659
02:24:08,520 --> 02:24:11,080
Speaker 9: He said, as long as you're back by week five.

2660
02:24:11,040 --> 02:24:12,680
Speaker 2: We're good. Week five.

2661
02:24:12,800 --> 02:24:15,800
Speaker 9: That's what Jamar Chase is saying. According to the NFL Network, is.

2662
02:24:15,800 --> 02:24:17,279
Speaker 2: That what they're saying about Joe Burrow.

2663
02:24:17,400 --> 02:24:19,840
Speaker 8: No, that's no that they're saying there's no reason he

2664
02:24:19,879 --> 02:24:22,560
Speaker 8: can't play week one. It's just Jamar Chase is like,

2665
02:24:22,760 --> 02:24:23,560
Speaker 8: please don't come back.

2666
02:24:23,600 --> 02:24:24,959
Speaker 3: He's refusing to allow.

2667
02:24:25,400 --> 02:24:27,920
Speaker 9: Yes, he's starting back, to come back.

2668
02:24:27,760 --> 02:24:28,600
Speaker 3: To come back and play.

2669
02:24:28,760 --> 02:24:33,039
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow could be ten percent and I guarantee you he'll.

2670
02:24:32,920 --> 02:24:35,360
Speaker 3: Be there, right I wha are you guys saying that

2671
02:24:35,400 --> 02:24:37,040
Speaker 3: Trevor Simeon can't hang?

2672
02:24:37,680 --> 02:24:43,640
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, kind of okay, not the way Joe Burrow can,

2673
02:24:44,000 --> 02:24:46,840
Speaker 8: all right, right, I mean it's because they're talking how

2674
02:24:46,920 --> 02:24:49,600
Speaker 8: calf injuries can linger and if you come back to

2675
02:24:49,760 --> 02:24:52,920
Speaker 8: early it can go worse for you. So that's really

2676
02:24:52,959 --> 02:24:55,080
Speaker 8: what it stems from. But apparently he should be ready

2677
02:24:55,080 --> 02:24:58,520
Speaker 8: to go for Week one. Let's move on to Major

2678
02:24:58,560 --> 02:25:01,640
Speaker 8: League Baseball. Some games have wrapped up. The Phillies ended

2679
02:25:01,680 --> 02:25:04,080
Speaker 8: up beating the Royals eight to four. They are in

2680
02:25:04,160 --> 02:25:06,280
Speaker 8: the wild Card right now, they're not out of it.

2681
02:25:06,440 --> 02:25:09,480
Speaker 8: The White Sox beat the Guardians the Guardians needed this win.

2682
02:25:09,800 --> 02:25:12,520
Speaker 9: Five to three was the final score. The Mets, well,

2683
02:25:12,560 --> 02:25:14,840
Speaker 9: they're the Mets. They lost to the Orioles. To zero

2684
02:25:15,000 --> 02:25:15,800
Speaker 9: was the final score.

2685
02:25:15,840 --> 02:25:18,360
Speaker 8: And the Blue Jays really could not stop scoring against

2686
02:25:18,360 --> 02:25:20,880
Speaker 8: the Red Sox. They had sixteen hits for a total

2687
02:25:20,879 --> 02:25:24,480
Speaker 8: of thirteen runs. In Boston, Red Sox had one run.

2688
02:25:24,920 --> 02:25:27,160
Speaker 8: The Mariners and the Angels just got going. It is

2689
02:25:27,200 --> 02:25:29,680
Speaker 8: a tie game. Top of the second inning. In La

2690
02:25:30,120 --> 02:25:32,959
Speaker 8: Rangers continued to score, blanking the Marlins at home.

2691
02:25:33,000 --> 02:25:33,600
Speaker 1: Five zero.

2692
02:25:33,680 --> 02:25:36,000
Speaker 8: Top of the eighth inning is about to start. The

2693
02:25:36,080 --> 02:25:39,039
Speaker 8: Cubs have taken the lead over the Braves. It's five

2694
02:25:39,120 --> 02:25:41,800
Speaker 8: to four top of the seventh inning. Despite Matt Olsen

2695
02:25:41,879 --> 02:25:43,920
Speaker 8: hitting his thirty ninth homer of the season, then he

2696
02:25:43,959 --> 02:25:47,199
Speaker 8: had an RBI single. The Cubs are on top. Rockies

2697
02:25:47,240 --> 02:25:49,879
Speaker 8: are beating the Cardinals one zero. Bottom of the eighth.

2698
02:25:50,000 --> 02:25:52,920
Speaker 8: Pirates have added some more runs over the Brewers in Milwaukee.

2699
02:25:53,040 --> 02:25:55,400
Speaker 9: It is four zero bottom of the ninth inning.

2700
02:25:55,480 --> 02:25:57,440
Speaker 8: The Brewers have a man on first base and they're

2701
02:25:57,480 --> 02:26:00,360
Speaker 8: down to their final three outs. Nationals still beating the

2702
02:26:00,400 --> 02:26:03,320
Speaker 8: Reds in Cincinnati sixty three top of the ninth inning,

2703
02:26:03,640 --> 02:26:06,200
Speaker 8: and the Astros did end up taking the lead over

2704
02:26:06,200 --> 02:26:08,480
Speaker 8: the Yankees. In the Bronx it is nine to six,

2705
02:26:08,640 --> 02:26:10,879
Speaker 8: bottom of the eighth inning. Yankees have a man on

2706
02:26:10,959 --> 02:26:13,600
Speaker 8: first base and they are down to their final two

2707
02:26:13,600 --> 02:26:15,879
Speaker 8: outs of the inning. We do have a lot of

2708
02:26:16,040 --> 02:26:19,440
Speaker 8: WNBA games going on. I'm gonna mention the top two teams,

2709
02:26:19,480 --> 02:26:22,400
Speaker 8: the Las Vegas Aces and the New York Liberty. With

2710
02:26:22,640 --> 02:26:25,520
Speaker 8: Liberty on top sixty six to forty eight less than

2711
02:26:25,560 --> 02:26:28,480
Speaker 8: five minutes to go in the third quarter, Sabrina Eunescu

2712
02:26:28,600 --> 02:26:31,560
Speaker 8: of the New York Liberty thirty one points so far

2713
02:26:31,600 --> 02:26:33,680
Speaker 8: in the game, and again four and a half minutes

2714
02:26:33,760 --> 02:26:35,080
Speaker 8: left in the third period, third quarter.

2715
02:26:35,640 --> 02:26:37,400
Speaker 2: Did she put on a show at the All Star

2716
02:26:37,480 --> 02:26:37,880
Speaker 2: Game with that?

2717
02:26:38,600 --> 02:26:43,040
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, Oh she's amazing. And the Aces are stacked, yes,

2718
02:26:43,360 --> 02:26:44,320
Speaker 9: stacked stacks.

2719
02:26:44,480 --> 02:26:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like a super two, they really really are.

2720
02:26:47,000 --> 02:26:49,200
Speaker 8: And right now Liberty is putting on a show against

2721
02:26:49,440 --> 02:26:50,119
Speaker 8: I think it's good.

2722
02:26:49,959 --> 02:26:51,400
Speaker 2: For the WNBA.

2723
02:26:51,040 --> 02:26:51,320
Speaker 3: I am.

2724
02:26:51,520 --> 02:26:53,960
Speaker 2: I always think it's good for any sport to have

2725
02:26:54,640 --> 02:26:56,039
Speaker 2: a super dominant.

2726
02:26:55,640 --> 02:26:58,680
Speaker 8: Team, yes, for sure, and to have Sabrina unsk who

2727
02:26:58,720 --> 02:26:59,800
Speaker 8: still shine against them.

2728
02:27:00,040 --> 02:27:00,160
Speaker 1: Yea.

2729
02:27:00,280 --> 02:27:03,920
Speaker 9: That helps. Also, thirty one points thirty one points not bad,

2730
02:27:04,120 --> 02:27:05,840
Speaker 9: not bad. At all. Back to you guys, all.

2731
02:27:05,840 --> 02:27:09,200
Speaker 2: Right, great job as always, MOONSI all right, I want

2732
02:27:09,200 --> 02:27:13,200
Speaker 2: to ask you Rich about a guy whose name could

2733
02:27:13,280 --> 02:27:18,119
Speaker 2: be presented at the Hall of Fame in twenty twenty four.

2734
02:27:18,480 --> 02:27:21,600
Speaker 2: So the process of the voting right now is they're

2735
02:27:21,640 --> 02:27:25,240
Speaker 2: focusing on the Seniors committee. So there's two categories. You

2736
02:27:25,240 --> 02:27:28,240
Speaker 2: have the players, where they can nominate up to three players.

2737
02:27:29,040 --> 02:27:30,840
Speaker 2: They did this for a couple of years because they

2738
02:27:30,879 --> 02:27:32,959
Speaker 2: felt like that a backlog of players they had to

2739
02:27:32,959 --> 02:27:36,920
Speaker 2: get to. And then they have the coach slash contributor category,

2740
02:27:37,160 --> 02:27:42,119
Speaker 2: which produced obviously Don Coriel this year, and the guy

2741
02:27:42,200 --> 02:27:44,480
Speaker 2: that a lot of people are saying is finally going

2742
02:27:44,560 --> 02:27:47,920
Speaker 2: to get the nod in that category. They'll be announcing this,

2743
02:27:48,040 --> 02:27:50,320
Speaker 2: I believe on the fifteenth of August. So coming up

2744
02:27:50,320 --> 02:27:54,200
Speaker 2: here shortly is Robert Kraft, the owner of the New

2745
02:27:54,240 --> 02:28:01,279
Speaker 2: England Patriots. It's not getting younger. And obviously Jerry Jones

2746
02:28:01,360 --> 02:28:05,480
Speaker 2: is in the Hall of Fame. We've had Eddie de

2747
02:28:05,520 --> 02:28:08,320
Speaker 2: Bartelow in the Hall of Fame, so their owners had

2748
02:28:08,520 --> 02:28:12,320
Speaker 2: definitely earn it based on success, and no owner has

2749
02:28:12,360 --> 02:28:17,520
Speaker 2: more Super Bowl trophies than Robert Kraft. So two questions

2750
02:28:17,520 --> 02:28:21,000
Speaker 2: for you as someone that played for the Patriots organization,

2751
02:28:21,120 --> 02:28:26,640
Speaker 2: one of the most celebrated names in Patriots history. How

2752
02:28:26,720 --> 02:28:31,640
Speaker 2: much credit should Robert Craft get for the success of

2753
02:28:31,680 --> 02:28:35,760
Speaker 2: the Patriots organization? That's question one. In question two, if

2754
02:28:35,760 --> 02:28:38,000
Speaker 2: he is elected to the Hall of Fame, who do

2755
02:28:38,040 --> 02:28:41,240
Speaker 2: you believe he would choose as his presenter.

2756
02:28:42,280 --> 02:28:45,840
Speaker 3: He will be elected to the Hall of Fame, I

2757
02:28:45,840 --> 02:28:48,640
Speaker 3: would assume it's going to be soon, because I don't

2758
02:28:48,720 --> 02:28:51,440
Speaker 3: think they I think they would prefer to do it

2759
02:28:52,320 --> 02:28:56,280
Speaker 3: while he's still around and kicking as opposed to posthumously,

2760
02:28:56,440 --> 02:29:01,440
Speaker 3: especially with Jerry Jones setting that trend. Yes, and uh,

2761
02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:06,080
Speaker 3: I mean, if you had to choose anybody, we'll see

2762
02:29:06,280 --> 02:29:11,360
Speaker 3: if my schedule in August, can can really I mean,

2763
02:29:11,440 --> 02:29:14,240
Speaker 3: if things align, I don't know, I mean, will he I.

2764
02:29:14,160 --> 02:29:16,080
Speaker 2: Think this brings up a good point if he were

2765
02:29:16,120 --> 02:29:17,000
Speaker 2: to choose you.

2766
02:29:17,360 --> 02:29:21,440
Speaker 3: He did draft I mean, he was partially responsibil responsible

2767
02:29:21,520 --> 02:29:24,119
Speaker 3: for drafting me in the fourth round of the two

2768
02:29:24,120 --> 02:29:25,080
Speaker 3: thousand and nine draft.

2769
02:29:25,280 --> 02:29:27,080
Speaker 1: And I know, hold your applause.

2770
02:29:28,000 --> 02:29:31,360
Speaker 3: But I so, I mean, one of the greatest decisions

2771
02:29:31,400 --> 02:29:34,080
Speaker 3: the franchise ever made and potentially for the history of

2772
02:29:34,080 --> 02:29:34,720
Speaker 3: the NFL.

2773
02:29:35,120 --> 02:29:36,600
Speaker 1: So that's a big deal.

2774
02:29:36,840 --> 02:29:40,720
Speaker 3: But getting back to Robert, I mean, you could argue

2775
02:29:40,760 --> 02:29:43,119
Speaker 3: that he had some success even before I got there.

2776
02:29:43,800 --> 02:29:49,400
Speaker 2: I'll know that. So when we talk about the unprecedented

2777
02:29:49,400 --> 02:29:53,280
Speaker 2: success yeh over a twenty year period, and we always

2778
02:29:53,320 --> 02:29:57,840
Speaker 2: talk about Belichick and obviously we talk about Brady, Where

2779
02:29:57,879 --> 02:30:02,280
Speaker 2: does Robert Craft fit in to the equation in terms

2780
02:30:02,320 --> 02:30:07,840
Speaker 2: of deserved responsibility for the success of the franchise?

2781
02:30:08,000 --> 02:30:09,120
Speaker 1: Extremely high?

2782
02:30:09,160 --> 02:30:13,560
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you why, because it is very, very

2783
02:30:13,600 --> 02:30:20,920
Speaker 3: easy to get overly involved in anything when when it

2784
02:30:21,000 --> 02:30:21,560
Speaker 3: matters to.

2785
02:30:21,520 --> 02:30:26,039
Speaker 1: You, uh, think about think about any.

2786
02:30:25,920 --> 02:30:29,520
Speaker 3: House project that you ever that you ever had, you know,

2787
02:30:29,600 --> 02:30:33,360
Speaker 3: commissioned on your house, whether it's rebuilding a bathroom or

2788
02:30:33,440 --> 02:30:39,000
Speaker 3: putting in a walking closet or a complete renovation. You're

2789
02:30:39,040 --> 02:30:41,879
Speaker 3: going to obviously give your thoughts and your ideas, but

2790
02:30:41,920 --> 02:30:44,000
Speaker 3: then at some point you're going to put your trust

2791
02:30:44,000 --> 02:30:48,440
Speaker 3: into the thought process of experts who you've hired to

2792
02:30:48,640 --> 02:30:52,600
Speaker 3: handle building the bathroom or the closet or the house

2793
02:30:53,160 --> 02:30:55,600
Speaker 3: because you don't know how to do that. That's not

2794
02:30:55,760 --> 02:30:59,080
Speaker 3: your job. Your job is to write the checks and

2795
02:30:59,120 --> 02:31:03,600
Speaker 3: it's somebody else's job to renovate. Well, that's very similar

2796
02:31:04,240 --> 02:31:09,040
Speaker 3: with an NFL owner, you know. I mean, yeah, you

2797
02:31:09,120 --> 02:31:11,720
Speaker 3: have a general idea of what you want. You may

2798
02:31:12,040 --> 02:31:13,959
Speaker 3: have an idea of what you want your culture to

2799
02:31:14,000 --> 02:31:15,720
Speaker 3: look like. You may have an idea of even what

2800
02:31:15,800 --> 02:31:18,440
Speaker 3: type of players you want on your team, whether it

2801
02:31:18,480 --> 02:31:21,400
Speaker 3: be like, hey, we want all good character guys, we

2802
02:31:21,440 --> 02:31:25,120
Speaker 3: want everybody the focus of this to be to be

2803
02:31:25,240 --> 02:31:28,280
Speaker 3: team over me. Whatever it may be. Like, Okay, so

2804
02:31:28,400 --> 02:31:32,000
Speaker 3: big thematic ideas, but I mean, you're not the one

2805
02:31:32,040 --> 02:31:35,680
Speaker 3: who's down there in the dirt laying a foundation or

2806
02:31:35,720 --> 02:31:39,480
Speaker 3: framing the thing, or drywalling or plumbing or doing the

2807
02:31:39,520 --> 02:31:42,840
Speaker 3: electricity when you get in your house rebuilt same way.

2808
02:31:42,879 --> 02:31:45,760
Speaker 3: And owner shouldn't be the one who is in the

2809
02:31:45,840 --> 02:31:49,240
Speaker 3: draft room making bold proclamations about what the team needs

2810
02:31:49,240 --> 02:31:52,160
Speaker 3: for the upcoming season. And it's really hard to do.

2811
02:31:52,760 --> 02:31:56,080
Speaker 3: It's really hard to do to stay completely uninvolved. Now

2812
02:31:56,080 --> 02:31:58,680
Speaker 3: I'm not saying Robert Craft has stayed completely uninvolved. I

2813
02:31:58,680 --> 02:32:01,400
Speaker 3: do think that there have been occasions over the twenty

2814
02:32:01,480 --> 02:32:04,560
Speaker 3: year span of success that he had with Bill Belichick

2815
02:32:04,959 --> 02:32:12,400
Speaker 3: where he had made his decision known that they were

2816
02:32:12,400 --> 02:32:15,000
Speaker 3: going to go with his idea instead of Bill's idea.

2817
02:32:15,360 --> 02:32:16,280
Speaker 1: But it was rare.

2818
02:32:16,720 --> 02:32:20,959
Speaker 3: He essentially gave the keys of the kingdom to a

2819
02:32:21,000 --> 02:32:25,120
Speaker 3: head coach slash general manager who had limited success in

2820
02:32:25,160 --> 02:32:28,960
Speaker 3: the league as a head coach prior, and said, it's

2821
02:32:29,000 --> 02:32:32,640
Speaker 3: your show, run it however you want, and that's how

2822
02:32:32,640 --> 02:32:36,240
Speaker 3: a champion was built. So even though we credit Bill

2823
02:32:36,240 --> 02:32:40,720
Speaker 3: Belichick and obviously Tom Brady for the incredible success that

2824
02:32:40,800 --> 02:32:47,680
Speaker 3: New England had, it also took somebody having the selflessness

2825
02:32:47,680 --> 02:32:49,720
Speaker 3: and the foresight to stay out of the way and

2826
02:32:49,800 --> 02:32:50,480
Speaker 3: let it happen.

2827
02:32:51,560 --> 02:32:55,160
Speaker 2: Think about this, and this is the one decision that

2828
02:32:55,280 --> 02:33:02,920
Speaker 2: you there's no argument about. So after a course getting

2829
02:33:02,959 --> 02:33:06,520
Speaker 2: fired by the Cleveland Browns, he went back to you know,

2830
02:33:06,680 --> 02:33:11,120
Speaker 2: essentially work with Parcels. And then Parcells steps down as

2831
02:33:11,160 --> 02:33:13,840
Speaker 2: the head coach of the Jets and hands him the job.

2832
02:33:15,040 --> 02:33:18,480
Speaker 2: He was the Jets coach for one day, and it

2833
02:33:18,560 --> 02:33:23,040
Speaker 2: was Robert Kraft that offered the Jets a first round

2834
02:33:23,080 --> 02:33:30,120
Speaker 2: pick to get Belichick, and so he was introduced but

2835
02:33:30,200 --> 02:33:32,760
Speaker 2: not really introduced as the Jets head coach for a day,

2836
02:33:33,520 --> 02:33:34,800
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, the Jets get a

2837
02:33:34,840 --> 02:33:36,840
Speaker 2: call from Belichick saying, how would you like a first

2838
02:33:36,920 --> 02:33:40,160
Speaker 2: round pick for this guy? They said, really, We'll take it.

2839
02:33:42,120 --> 02:33:44,560
Speaker 2: And that changed the course of history for both of

2840
02:33:44,560 --> 02:33:47,960
Speaker 2: those franchises. Saw him with you. Craft is very deserving,

2841
02:33:48,120 --> 02:33:52,480
Speaker 2: and he's now into his eighties. It's overdue. Give this

2842
02:33:52,560 --> 02:33:55,200
Speaker 2: man his due, give him an opportunity to thank the

2843
02:33:55,240 --> 02:33:58,480
Speaker 2: people that helped him along the way to become the

2844
02:33:58,959 --> 02:34:02,400
Speaker 2: winningness owner in NFL history in terms of Super Bowl

2845
02:34:02,440 --> 02:34:05,000
Speaker 2: championships of all time. All Right, we're gonna tell you

2846
02:34:05,040 --> 02:34:09,080
Speaker 2: about the week ahead. This is Fox Sports Sunday and

2847
02:34:09,240 --> 02:34:10,879
Speaker 2: another hustle double.

2848
02:34:11,120 --> 02:34:15,960
Speaker 6: Right over the bag at first down, Hoosey and Anderson

2849
02:34:16,080 --> 02:34:16,720
Speaker 6: square off.

2850
02:34:16,920 --> 02:34:18,920
Speaker 2: They're fighting, They're swinging.

2851
02:34:19,240 --> 02:34:27,920
Speaker 6: Down Goes Anderson, Down, Goes Anderson. Ramirez went in with

2852
02:34:28,000 --> 02:34:32,440
Speaker 6: a head first slide. Hosey never gets upset about anything.

2853
02:34:33,160 --> 02:34:41,720
Speaker 6: They came up showing Anderson squared off Hosey dectum. It's

2854
02:34:41,760 --> 02:34:46,160
Speaker 6: a five to one Chicago lead, but everybody from the

2855
02:34:46,240 --> 02:34:52,280
Speaker 6: dugouts and the Bullpence congregated around second base. You never

2856
02:34:52,480 --> 02:34:55,959
Speaker 6: see Jose Ramirez get upset like that.

2857
02:34:57,959 --> 02:35:00,840
Speaker 2: Well, that was The Guardian's radio networ work, along with

2858
02:35:00,879 --> 02:35:05,880
Speaker 2: some Iowa Sam musical enhancement. That's also our Progressive Play

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Speaker 2: Steve Harbin, Rich Ornberger, Fox Sports Sunday, We are live

2864
02:35:23,360 --> 02:35:26,560
Speaker 2: from the tai Iraq dot Com studios. We have a

2865
02:35:26,720 --> 02:35:33,920
Speaker 2: legendary supporting cast on this show, starting with Iowa Sam spent. Yes,

2866
02:35:35,520 --> 02:35:40,840
Speaker 2: Iowa Sam is well, he's been working a multitude of shifts.

2867
02:35:41,280 --> 02:35:42,240
Speaker 3: I am all over the place.

2868
02:35:42,440 --> 02:35:46,120
Speaker 2: He is all over the map, whether it's over night, days, nights,

2869
02:35:46,160 --> 02:35:46,880
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter.

2870
02:35:47,000 --> 02:35:47,800
Speaker 1: He's sought after.

2871
02:35:48,000 --> 02:35:52,400
Speaker 2: He is really sought after. It's raving sleep schedule. And

2872
02:35:52,480 --> 02:35:56,400
Speaker 2: it's okay, but you're okay, Yeah, I'm pushed through. Yes,

2873
02:35:56,480 --> 02:35:59,039
Speaker 2: you're pushing it right through montc course, have you made

2874
02:35:59,040 --> 02:36:03,520
Speaker 2: a final decision Moncey on acquiring tickets to see Taylor Swift,

2875
02:36:03,520 --> 02:36:04,560
Speaker 2: no matter what the cost.

2876
02:36:05,200 --> 02:36:06,480
Speaker 9: I think I'm going to do it.

2877
02:36:06,680 --> 02:36:09,760
Speaker 8: I My friend finally responded, and she's like, Okay, all right,

2878
02:36:09,879 --> 02:36:10,520
Speaker 8: I think I'm in.

2879
02:36:10,600 --> 02:36:12,640
Speaker 9: You know, you just have to swallow the amount of money.

2880
02:36:12,680 --> 02:36:13,640
Speaker 9: You just got to accept it.

2881
02:36:14,280 --> 02:36:16,040
Speaker 2: Well, you've been working a lot of shifts as well.

2882
02:36:16,160 --> 02:36:17,760
Speaker 9: I have been working a lot of shifts.

2883
02:36:17,800 --> 02:36:21,039
Speaker 8: But you know, I was not expecting to get this

2884
02:36:21,320 --> 02:36:23,520
Speaker 8: urge and itch to go to the Taylor Swift concert

2885
02:36:23,560 --> 02:36:24,920
Speaker 8: forty eight hours ago.

2886
02:36:25,080 --> 02:36:26,000
Speaker 9: But you know here I am.

2887
02:36:26,760 --> 02:36:29,080
Speaker 2: I had an opportunity to see Elton John at Dodgers

2888
02:36:29,160 --> 02:36:32,000
Speaker 2: Stadium in nineteen seventy five, seventy six. I thought you

2889
02:36:32,000 --> 02:36:33,959
Speaker 2: were going to say this post and I wasn't willing

2890
02:36:34,000 --> 02:36:36,279
Speaker 2: to part with I think I don't know twenty dollars

2891
02:36:36,280 --> 02:36:39,080
Speaker 2: to go see the concert. I regret that to this day.

2892
02:36:39,240 --> 02:36:43,880
Speaker 2: Do not make the same mistake. Bo here he is here.

2893
02:36:44,560 --> 02:36:48,000
Speaker 11: You guys know how Monsey got a nice little friend's

2894
02:36:48,280 --> 02:36:49,119
Speaker 11: gift from Sam?

2895
02:36:49,879 --> 02:36:50,440
Speaker 1: How did he do?

2896
02:36:51,120 --> 02:36:54,320
Speaker 3: How did she go about acquiring this this whole Vision

2897
02:36:54,320 --> 02:36:54,800
Speaker 3: T shirt?

2898
02:36:54,800 --> 02:36:56,959
Speaker 2: Do you know what? What's a little novelty it's a

2899
02:36:56,959 --> 02:36:57,879
Speaker 2: little novelty thing.

2900
02:36:58,040 --> 02:37:00,440
Speaker 11: Do you guys know what Sam got me? But get

2901
02:37:00,720 --> 02:37:03,039
Speaker 11: absolutely nothing? Nothing, nothing at all.

2902
02:37:03,120 --> 02:37:06,160
Speaker 2: Well he now when he when he handed the little box,

2903
02:37:06,280 --> 02:37:10,160
Speaker 2: which was had enough scotch tape to wrap half the planet. Yes,

2904
02:37:11,959 --> 02:37:14,760
Speaker 2: he said he likes to do this to a multitude

2905
02:37:14,800 --> 02:37:17,760
Speaker 2: of people. So you he didn't want to say, well,

2906
02:37:17,800 --> 02:37:20,920
Speaker 2: I'm just getting it for Moncie. So Sam, who else

2907
02:37:20,959 --> 02:37:23,440
Speaker 2: has received like these little novelty gifts?

2908
02:37:23,440 --> 02:37:27,640
Speaker 10: Give us a list, Dan Byer, I got him this

2909
02:37:27,680 --> 02:37:32,039
Speaker 10: little like desktop golf golfing sets with two little golf clubs,

2910
02:37:32,120 --> 02:37:34,280
Speaker 10: a couple of little balls, and actually a little tiny

2911
02:37:34,320 --> 02:37:37,480
Speaker 10: bag of sand and a putting green with a whole.

2912
02:37:37,840 --> 02:37:39,879
Speaker 10: And I just like, listen when I see something, I'm like,

2913
02:37:39,879 --> 02:37:41,640
Speaker 10: oh that speaks to me like this person would this

2914
02:37:41,640 --> 02:37:42,320
Speaker 10: person would like this.

2915
02:37:42,440 --> 02:37:44,600
Speaker 3: I just get it. It's a little little present.

2916
02:37:44,800 --> 02:37:47,520
Speaker 1: Remember, I remember one time, but there's nothing.

2917
02:37:47,320 --> 02:37:49,280
Speaker 3: For both this time. But next time you went, you

2918
02:37:49,320 --> 02:37:53,200
Speaker 3: went back home to Iowa and you came back with

2919
02:37:53,200 --> 02:37:55,440
Speaker 3: with minor league baseball hats the whole crew.

2920
02:37:55,520 --> 02:37:57,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, I did that. That was actually quite a bit

2921
02:37:57,280 --> 02:37:58,640
Speaker 10: of money I spent on all those hats.

2922
02:38:00,040 --> 02:38:02,320
Speaker 2: I'm glad. I'm so happy to that because you know what,

2923
02:38:02,440 --> 02:38:03,959
Speaker 2: I can get one of those hats either.

2924
02:38:06,000 --> 02:38:07,119
Speaker 1: Might have gotten lost in the mail.

2925
02:38:08,040 --> 02:38:09,400
Speaker 3: He'll get a colonel's hat at some points.

2926
02:38:09,480 --> 02:38:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a self invitation to my house from Iowa.

2927
02:38:14,280 --> 02:38:18,680
Speaker 10: Sam brought a nice bottle. There was Manzi's recommendation. I

2928
02:38:18,720 --> 02:38:19,440
Speaker 10: went with the recommendation.

2929
02:38:21,480 --> 02:38:23,880
Speaker 1: MONSI still has never been invited never.

2930
02:38:24,160 --> 02:38:24,959
Speaker 2: No, not yet.

2931
02:38:25,360 --> 02:38:27,760
Speaker 10: But listen, I don't know. I do invite myself to

2932
02:38:27,840 --> 02:38:32,800
Speaker 10: think sometimes that is you were more than well Bo.

2933
02:38:32,120 --> 02:38:34,440
Speaker 1: Was okay, so Moncey got the novelty thing, though.

2934
02:38:34,920 --> 02:38:37,879
Speaker 3: Bo. Have you been invited to the Hartman household either?

2935
02:38:38,760 --> 02:38:40,280
Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know.

2936
02:38:42,280 --> 02:38:45,240
Speaker 2: Myself. Well, you have to, that's the way it works.

2937
02:38:45,280 --> 02:38:47,360
Speaker 11: There's no point in inviting me anywhere. I have a

2938
02:38:47,600 --> 02:38:49,040
Speaker 11: one year old daughter at home. I don't get to

2939
02:38:49,080 --> 02:38:52,440
Speaker 11: do anything anymore. Yeah, that's okay, give me a couple

2940
02:38:52,480 --> 02:38:54,640
Speaker 11: of years, Richie. Still have to bring the boys to

2941
02:38:54,680 --> 02:38:55,080
Speaker 11: the house.

2942
02:38:55,240 --> 02:38:57,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, we got to do a big swim

2943
02:38:57,320 --> 02:38:58,840
Speaker 3: day with the with the kiddos.

2944
02:38:58,959 --> 02:39:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe a little grilling, little chilling.

2945
02:39:02,000 --> 02:39:03,959
Speaker 2: Well you saw the setup. It's all there for you.

2946
02:39:04,040 --> 02:39:06,039
Speaker 3: Oh, it's all there. Yeah, it's no doubt about it.

2947
02:39:06,040 --> 02:39:06,400
Speaker 3: All there.

2948
02:39:06,920 --> 02:39:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I just I know a lot of

2949
02:39:09,920 --> 02:39:13,600
Speaker 2: people question how we incorporate a lot of food in

2950
02:39:13,680 --> 02:39:18,039
Speaker 2: the show. Yeah, we always have. Yeah, yeah, what is

2951
02:39:18,080 --> 02:39:19,840
Speaker 2: sort of universal? Have you noticed that.

2952
02:39:19,800 --> 02:39:23,519
Speaker 3: It's a big part of what I what I do. Yeah,

2953
02:39:24,280 --> 02:39:25,360
Speaker 3: even when I'm on the air.

2954
02:39:25,600 --> 02:39:29,640
Speaker 2: Yes, I haven't heard many of your recent barbecue x.

2955
02:39:29,800 --> 02:39:31,640
Speaker 2: Have you done much barbecuing this summer.

2956
02:39:32,040 --> 02:39:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Actually, I just took a East Coast trip and

2957
02:39:35,800 --> 02:39:39,400
Speaker 3: something I was involved with, which was a big throwback

2958
02:39:39,440 --> 02:39:41,640
Speaker 3: for me because I haven't been cooking with propine in

2959
02:39:41,640 --> 02:39:45,480
Speaker 3: a while. Is just standard burgers and dogs over a

2960
02:39:45,520 --> 02:39:48,800
Speaker 3: propane grill. I mean, I don't know. I don't know

2961
02:39:48,840 --> 02:39:52,160
Speaker 3: if anything beats that in terms of nostalgia. I grew

2962
02:39:52,240 --> 02:39:53,959
Speaker 3: up on a propane grill. I didn't grow up on

2963
02:39:54,000 --> 02:39:56,120
Speaker 3: the charcollar the wood smoker that I have now.

2964
02:39:56,200 --> 02:39:58,520
Speaker 2: But when you put on a Hamberger patty before you

2965
02:39:58,600 --> 02:40:00,760
Speaker 2: put it down on a barbecue grip, you gotta.

2966
02:40:00,760 --> 02:40:05,119
Speaker 1: At very least you gotta go salt, pepper, and the little.

2967
02:40:04,840 --> 02:40:08,480
Speaker 2: Crust down there very very good. Oh I'm so hungry,

2968
02:40:08,560 --> 02:40:10,840
Speaker 2: but we gotta go. This is Fox Sports Radio.