WEBVTT - #903 Packers Unscripted: Week 1 is here

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from Packers.com.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Mike Spofford, joined by my trusted colleague, Wes Hodkowitz.

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<v Speaker 1>We're coming to you here from the Pottawatomie Sportsbook studio

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<v Speaker 1>inside the walls of Lambeau Field. And Wes, week one,

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<v Speaker 1>it's finally here.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, man. Doesn't feel like it's been six weeks

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<v Speaker 2>of training camp and just working 80 hours every week.

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<v Speaker 2>But we made it. We made it.

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<v Speaker 1>We got here.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, this is what it's about, dude. And

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that it ends up being the Minnesota Vikings

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<v Speaker 2>right off the bat. You were with Matt LaFleur during

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<v Speaker 2>his press conference. I was kind of moseying my way

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<v Speaker 2>around the locker room. And the energy is different. You

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<v Speaker 2>can feel it's different among players and Whether it was

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<v Speaker 2>talking to Marshawn Lloyd, a guy that's been waiting and

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<v Speaker 2>champing at the bid here to get this opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>finally play. Brandon Cisse, who's put in now at this

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<v Speaker 2>point five months of work, even more than that if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to go back to the pre-combine stuff. Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>He's ready to get out there and do this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Christian Watson had mentioned even this is the first time,

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<v Speaker 2>the best he's felt going into a season. He's had

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<v Speaker 2>a hamstring injury before. There were two times where he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have much of a training camp. He's feeling great.

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<v Speaker 2>So it just shows you that whether it's mentally, physically, emotionally,

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<v Speaker 2>guys are ready to go. And certainly come 325 p.m.

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<v Speaker 2>Central Time in Minneapolis at U.S. Bank Stadium, Packers are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be playing to win a football game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, let's talk about the Minnesota Vikings this week,

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<v Speaker 1>one opponent. And you know me, I don't like to

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<v Speaker 1>oversimplify things. But at the risk of oversimplification... When I

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<v Speaker 1>look at the 2026 Vikings, I see a team that

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<v Speaker 1>is almost identical to the 2025 Vikings, except they have

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<v Speaker 1>a new quarterback. It feels like the only significant change

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about with Minnesota from last year to this

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<v Speaker 1>year is that Kyler Murray is now QB1.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's trying to figure out– I wrote this

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<v Speaker 2>in Inbox. I think it was last week or the

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<v Speaker 2>week before.

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<v Speaker 1>It all runs together after a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. There's going to be two things at play here.

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<v Speaker 2>And if in that way, I put this was if

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<v Speaker 2>either one of them is not true, the Vikings may

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<v Speaker 2>be in some trouble, especially considering how battle tested, how durable,

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<v Speaker 2>how deep this NFC North is with Detroit, Chicago and

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<v Speaker 2>Green Bay also in there. Either A, you know, Kyler

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<v Speaker 2>Murray needs to revert to form and be the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of dynamic quarterback he was early on during his career

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<v Speaker 2>or Obviously, injuries have played a role in that. I

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<v Speaker 2>think some degradation of the roster in Arizona, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>had a role in that. There's a lot of different

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<v Speaker 2>things that happened that led to his departure and, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>also Jonathan Gannon's departure from the Cardinals. So that's one

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<v Speaker 2>piece of it. Can he recapture the magic? The other

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<v Speaker 2>one is, can the Vikings... basically run it back with

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<v Speaker 2>virtually the same roster that was already getting a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit older in trying it again, but this time having

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<v Speaker 2>what maybe a lot of people considered to be the

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<v Speaker 2>missing piece last year in a little bit more stability

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<v Speaker 2>at quarterback. I'm very interested. If both of those things

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<v Speaker 2>line up, the Vikings could be a team to be

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<v Speaker 2>feared this season. I think there's a lot to like

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<v Speaker 2>there about their roster. If either of those is not true,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it could be a long season for Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you've laid out the scenarios perfectly there because

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<v Speaker 1>this is a Vikings team that won five consecutive games. Now, granted,

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers rested all their guys in Week 18 last year,

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<v Speaker 1>but they won five consecutive games to conclude last season.

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<v Speaker 1>And finish nine and eight, finish with a winning record,

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<v Speaker 1>despite all of the quarterback problems and questions and uncertainty

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<v Speaker 1>and everything that surrounded that position, whether it was J.J.

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy or Carson Wentz and the injuries and all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But.

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<v Speaker 1>As you said, it's now another year later, and all

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<v Speaker 1>these veterans on the Vikings roster didn't get any younger.

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<v Speaker 1>They all got a year older. So what does that

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<v Speaker 1>mean when you're coming off of what was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a momentum-building thing over the last month and a half

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<v Speaker 1>of last season? What can carry over to this season? Offensively?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we know what they have. They have Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Jones in the backfield. They have Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison

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<v Speaker 1>at wide receiver. They have TJ Hawkinson at tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the guys that have been carrying the load

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<v Speaker 1>offensively for Minnesota for the last couple of years. In

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<v Speaker 1>the case of Justin Jefferson, a handful of years now

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of his game and as one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best receivers in football. How does all that mesh

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<v Speaker 1>with Kyler Murray and Kevin O'Connell's offense and the scrambling threat,

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<v Speaker 1>the improvised, the off-schedule stuff, all the stuff that Kyler

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<v Speaker 1>Murray is going to bring to the table that in

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<v Speaker 1>previous Kevin O'Connell offenses that guys like Kirk Cousins and

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Darnold didn't bring that. So what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you get to a week one and

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<v Speaker 1>there's all these unscouted looks and you don't really know

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<v Speaker 1>what a team has, I think it presents a really

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<v Speaker 1>big challenge to try to figure this out right out

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<v Speaker 1>of the gate and be the guinea pig of a defense,

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<v Speaker 1>so to speak, with Jonathan Gannon's unit and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>sort this out with Kevin O'Connell's offense and a brand-new quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you running us through that, Mike, because at

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<v Speaker 2>that same time I was going through 84 steps of

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<v Speaker 2>authentication trying to bring up NFL stats. And here's what

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to point out with this. Minnesota last season, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that they ended up getting to 9-8, Very

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<v Speaker 2>impressive considering 28th in the NFL in total offense, 23rd

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<v Speaker 2>in rushing. Obviously, Aaron Jones, you mentioned, had quite a

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<v Speaker 2>few injuries that were tied into that. 29th in passing,

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<v Speaker 2>32nd in interception rate, 31st in sack rate. Now, when

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<v Speaker 2>Kyler Murray is on his game... This guy protects the

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<v Speaker 2>football well. He is elusive in the pocket. And there

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<v Speaker 2>is the element of the downfield pass. And that makes

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<v Speaker 2>him tough. That makes him tough to deal with. And,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was going back to when he got

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<v Speaker 2>DeAndre Hopkins, right? And that was a huge trade that

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<v Speaker 2>Houston made because obviously Hopkins won his extension. He wanted

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<v Speaker 2>a new location. He goes to Arizona 1,400 yards right

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<v Speaker 2>off the bat. They look dynamic. They look explosive. And

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like things are going to be going a

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<v Speaker 2>certain way for them. The The way that, and obviously Hopkins,

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<v Speaker 2>now semi-retired, I think you could call him, doing some coaching,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, over at Georgia Tech now. He didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>get the weapons implemented there in Arizona. Marvin Harrison Jr.

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<v Speaker 2>is still kind of trying to figure out what he

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<v Speaker 2>is there. Obviously, Trey McBride is one of the best

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<v Speaker 2>tight ends, but almost was in some ways a pleasant surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>They haven't had those litany of perimeter options that that

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<v Speaker 2>Murray had early on in his career. Conversely, Minnesota has

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<v Speaker 2>these two absolute studs, maybe the best receiver of his

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<v Speaker 2>generation in Justin Jefferson. And the fact that Jefferson still

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<v Speaker 2>managed to have a thousand yard receiving leader last year,

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<v Speaker 2>despite everything I said there about the offensive struggles, really

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<v Speaker 2>speaks to his talent and his ability. Jordan Addison, there's

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<v Speaker 2>been some question marks off the field, but when he's

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<v Speaker 2>right and when he's available, this guy's very dangerous. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the season that both of those guys

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<v Speaker 2>had with Sam Darnold two years ago, That wasn't a mirage.

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<v Speaker 2>That was where I think this Minnesota offense can get to,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with Kevin O'Connell at the controls. The question now

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<v Speaker 2>that we will have to answer, and we won't know it,

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<v Speaker 2>not even past this game, it's going to take a month,

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<v Speaker 2>but can Kyler Murray be the one that brings that

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<v Speaker 2>passing game back to Minnesota and gives that offense what

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<v Speaker 2>it's really been missing, and really that football team what

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<v Speaker 2>it's been missing?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's what everybody's wondering about because, I mean...

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<v Speaker 1>What started as a quarterback competition, I think this ended

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<v Speaker 1>the way everybody thought it was going to, that Kyler

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<v Speaker 1>Murray was going to be the guy to start the season.

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<v Speaker 1>And J.J. McCarthy's future, I think, is still very much

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<v Speaker 1>in limbo and where that goes. On the defensive side

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<v Speaker 1>of the ball, there may not be a more veteran-seasoned

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<v Speaker 1>defense that the Packers will face all season. You look

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<v Speaker 1>at these guys across the board. Blake Cashman, Andrew Van Ginkle,

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<v Speaker 1>Byron Murphy Jr. at cornerback, Josh Metellus at safety, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the least surprising last-minute move of all time, Harrison

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<v Speaker 1>Smith coming back at the end of training camp and

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<v Speaker 1>re-signing with the Vikings for one last go-around at safety.

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<v Speaker 1>Everywhere you look across the board on this Minnesota defense

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<v Speaker 1>is veteran players who have been there, but that goes

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<v Speaker 1>back to the the age question we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>at the, at the start of this discussion, these guys

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<v Speaker 1>aren't getting any younger. So how much do they have left?

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<v Speaker 1>And 17 games is, is a lot of football games

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<v Speaker 1>to play. But as of right now, all that matters

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<v Speaker 1>for the Packers is this one game in week one.

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<v Speaker 1>And these guys are, these guys defensively are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be at their best right now, maybe better than they

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<v Speaker 1>will be at any other point in the season. Because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bunch of veteran guys who are fresh and

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me personally, I'm really interested to see what Harrison

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<v Speaker 2>Smith looks like. Now, I have full confidence this guy

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<v Speaker 2>has been putting in the same amount of work he's

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<v Speaker 2>always put in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's mostly about the fact that 37 years old,

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<v Speaker 2>15 years in the NFL, safety sometimes can be a

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<v Speaker 2>little kinder to age. We saw it with Charles Woodson.

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<v Speaker 2>He was still playing at an all-pro level really all

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<v Speaker 2>the way up until the end once he was fully

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<v Speaker 2>committed to playing the safety position in Oakland. But the

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<v Speaker 2>fact is, is that we know what father time does.

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<v Speaker 2>So this football team, I think, as I talked about

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<v Speaker 2>in the beginning, I mean, there's so many different positions.

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<v Speaker 2>whether it was bringing in Van Ginkle, whether it's some

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<v Speaker 2>of the other moves they've made. There's a reason why

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<v Speaker 2>they moved to get Murray. There's a reason why they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to push that into next year, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>this team feels like, OK, whether it be with some

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<v Speaker 2>of the moves they've made in the draft, which haven't

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<v Speaker 2>always hit or the fact that they've invested so heavily

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<v Speaker 2>into unrestricted free agents and bringing guys in. We need

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<v Speaker 2>to push. And the guy that's at the controls of

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<v Speaker 2>all that is Brian Flores. And for Flores to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of get some of his pieces like Van Ginkle in place,

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<v Speaker 2>it shows you that In addition to the disguise, in

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<v Speaker 2>addition to the aggressiveness and all the things we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about with his front, he also feels like he has

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<v Speaker 2>a core there that is going to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>play the way he wants to play. And not that

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<v Speaker 2>we're getting into Keys to Victory here on a Tuesday

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<v Speaker 2>at the time we're shooting this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we can do that next show.

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<v Speaker 2>But the difference in seeing what Jonathan Gannon and his

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<v Speaker 2>debut is going to look like with Green Bay is...

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<v Speaker 2>And what Brian Flores, after being a potential head coaching

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<v Speaker 2>candidate this offseason and deciding to stay with Minnesota after

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of pomp and circumstance with the negotiations,

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<v Speaker 2>how those two defenses attack each other's opposing offense is

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<v Speaker 2>probably the biggest key to this game. And seeing exactly

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<v Speaker 2>who wins those third and pass situations, are you able to,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're Green Bay, avoid the pressure packages, get to

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<v Speaker 2>the hot reads, And also, what's the perfect counter to aggression?

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<v Speaker 2>It's explosive plays. Can you get some opportunities built off

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<v Speaker 2>of that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, with Flores, his reputation is well known, right? He's

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<v Speaker 1>going to throw all kinds of things at you, exotic looks,

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<v Speaker 1>crazy disguises, super aggression in certain moments. And a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people ask, well, how come, you know, if this

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<v Speaker 1>is such a cool thing and it works so well

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<v Speaker 1>for Minnesota, well, how come Other teams don't replicate that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because Brian Flores and the Vikings defense, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>really mess around with rookies and young players. They have

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<v Speaker 1>veteran players, and that creates a trust level with Flores

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<v Speaker 1>as the defensive coordinator and the defensive play caller in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of he knows that guys are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to cover here. And when I say cover, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when somebody vacates an area they know where

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<v Speaker 1>they know where to go it's like they they just

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<v Speaker 1>they use training camp to get ready because they they

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<v Speaker 1>have veteran players who don't necessarily need to learn a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot i guess is what i'm trying to say

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<v Speaker 1>and that's that's flores's defenses are at their best when

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<v Speaker 1>he just turns these veteran players loose and and lets

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<v Speaker 1>them go now When we talk about the age question, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if they have some guys go down and then younger

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<v Speaker 1>guys start to fill in and then that's, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with any team, that's where you see things start to change.

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<v Speaker 1>And it certainly will with the Vikings if they have

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<v Speaker 1>any injury issues with all these veterans. So that remains

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<v Speaker 1>to be seen. But as I said, it's week one.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys are going to be healthy. They're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be raring to go. And the other thing I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's worth talking about here, because to me, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>a week one game, This feels like the X factor

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<v Speaker 1>in this game to me is U.S. Bank Stadium. Matt

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<v Speaker 1>LaFleur was kind of joking at the podium like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're opening at Minnesota again, you know, third time in

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<v Speaker 1>his tenure here as head coach that that has happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the first time there weren't any fans in the stands,

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<v Speaker 1>so he didn't have to deal with the crowd noise

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<v Speaker 1>and Aaron Rodgers has completely lit those guys up. But

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<v Speaker 1>a week one in that building– you know, what it's,

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<v Speaker 1>this is year 11, I think for that stadium. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they did it right there with, uh, with how they

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<v Speaker 1>built it, the environment that they've created on game day. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it is, I mean, you and I are there every year,

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<v Speaker 1>but that place is different than other visiting stadiums that

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<v Speaker 1>we go into. And it just feels to me like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in a week one scenario with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of excitement about Minnesota, having a new quarterback, but having

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<v Speaker 1>the winning streak at the end of last year and

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<v Speaker 1>bringing back all these other pieces, I think that building

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be a very difficult place to play

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<v Speaker 1>for the Packers on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was a little bummed, to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 2>that this ended up being the opener. Now, obviously, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a great atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But some of these games they've had against Minnesota down

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<v Speaker 2>the stretch, there's been some really meaningful football. Last year, notwithstanding,

0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:34.700
<v Speaker 2>there's been some meaningful football that's been played in the

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<v Speaker 2>month of December in that building and being able to

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<v Speaker 2>actually have some of those championship implication type matchups, too.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think back to, you know, Bo Melton's

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<v Speaker 2>touchdown catch a couple years ago. I mean, that was

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<v Speaker 2>sort of his coming out party. I'll never forget those

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<v Speaker 2>images of them in the visiting locker room, just how

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<v Speaker 2>excited they were for him. And that was a catalyst

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<v Speaker 2>for them being able to rally late in that season,

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<v Speaker 2>the 2023 season, I believe that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I remember LeFleur's first year, essentially late in the

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<v Speaker 1>year at Minnesota, primetime game, division title is on the line.

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<v Speaker 1>And Aaron Jones, who's now obviously wearing the other uniform,

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<v Speaker 1>but he busts that long touchdown run in the fourth quarter. And,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Packers kind of planted the NFC North

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<v Speaker 1>title flag in that end zone, you know, on that evening.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was really the launch of the Matt LaFleur

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<v Speaker 1>era here in Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then just to be in that environment and

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<v Speaker 2>all the different things that their game presentation does, it

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<v Speaker 2>always makes it so cool when the things are online.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they're gonna have a lot of cool stuff

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<v Speaker 2>dialed up for the opener too. But it's weird. It

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<v Speaker 2>is weird when you have this situation where it's a

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<v Speaker 2>regular season finale followed then by a regular season opener

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<v Speaker 2>in the same venue. But be that as it may,

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<v Speaker 2>I think for the Packers, and a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about this in the locker room, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they know what's at stake here. They want to win

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<v Speaker 2>the North this year. I think there's no other objective

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<v Speaker 2>you even need to concern yourself with. One seed, seven seeds, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Packers need to win the North. It's been, it's now

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<v Speaker 2>been five years going on five years since the last

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<v Speaker 2>time they've hosted a game at Lambeau field in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>The easiest way to do that is winning your division.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you're talking about putting your flag in the ground,

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<v Speaker 2>it starts in that opener against Minnesota. Cause after that,

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<v Speaker 2>then you got some really just obscure matchups there that

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<v Speaker 2>are going to kind of cloud the schedule here. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Packers Unscripted. All right, I teased I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>throw a question at you, so I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 1>that right now. What do you think of division matchups

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<v Speaker 1>in week one? Good thing, bad thing, just who cares?

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<v Speaker 2>I like the idea, I like the college layout of

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<v Speaker 2>either legitimately just having completely games that two teams are

0:17:09.010 --> 0:17:12.850
<v Speaker 2>never going to see each other otherwise, or maybe like

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<v Speaker 2>a Dallas in Green Bay where it's like a rivalry

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<v Speaker 2>type matchup, like it's an early kind of like watermark game.

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<v Speaker 2>I personally do not like division games right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't either.

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<v Speaker 2>I really didn't like what happened a couple years ago

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<v Speaker 2>where it was that... Was that the, what year was that?

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<v Speaker 2>Were they, I think they, did they open against Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>or something? And then they didn't play another division match

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<v Speaker 2>for another division game for like three months. Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>just because now if we're going to be so back

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<v Speaker 2>heavy and I have no problem with this with the

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<v Speaker 2>last two weeks being these division matchups in most cases now,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes even three, but definitely closing the regular season against

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<v Speaker 2>the division opponent. Right. I'm fine with that on the

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<v Speaker 2>scheduling front, but I think it creates such a backlog with,

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<v Speaker 2>with NFC North games and these division games that, you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of lose sight of it. I mean, because I

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<v Speaker 2>think at any point you never want to have your

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<v Speaker 2>division rivals too far in the rear view mirror or

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<v Speaker 2>a situation like last year where the Packers are playing

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<v Speaker 2>the Bears. what, two times in 13 days and then

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<v Speaker 2>three times within, like, 20 days?

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<v Speaker 1>Within five weeks, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, like, it's just like, or yeah, it was, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>28 days. But anyway, be that as it may, just

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<v Speaker 2>that's not advantageous, I don't think. This isn't baseball. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not best of three. It's not, you know, a home series. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's so much variance that can happen with these schedules.

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<v Speaker 2>I just would like to see, and it's not always

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<v Speaker 2>going to work all the way, but how many times

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<v Speaker 2>do you look around the league and it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Washington's playing Philadelphia for the second time in 14 days?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean... I hate that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that the schedule is 17 games long now,

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<v Speaker 1>you only get six of these division games out of

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<v Speaker 1>the 17. To me, like, you know, sort of burning

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<v Speaker 1>one of them on the schedule right away in week one.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I get it from the league's perspective. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they want to have certain rivalry games to highlight in

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<v Speaker 1>week one to draw the TV audience. I mean, this

0:18:56.810 --> 0:18:59.810
<v Speaker 1>game is at 325, not at noon for a reason, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Packers and Vikings. But, I'm not a big fan of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get it early in the season when you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking week two, week three, or week four, say, like

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday night games, you know, short weeks, and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do division opponents, although the Packers are on Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>night in week three, and it's not a division opponent, so,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what do I know? But, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a crazy, loud, intense environment, and I guess...

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<v Speaker 1>The positive side of things is whether the Packers emerge

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<v Speaker 1>with a win or a loss is you're getting tested

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<v Speaker 1>right out of the gate.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're playing an important game that really matters right

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<v Speaker 1>out of the gate. And you're going to find out

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about your football team, I think. Not everything.

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<v Speaker 1>but you're going to find out a lot about your

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<v Speaker 1>football team right away in week one here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely. And, you know, for the Packers standpoint, seeing

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<v Speaker 2>how all the pieces fall into place too, right? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I made that joke about the amount of time that

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<v Speaker 2>goes into training camp and everything that's been building up

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<v Speaker 2>to this. You want to go back to OTAs and

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<v Speaker 2>minicamp and the work that's been put in to prepare

0:20:08.420 --> 0:20:10.869
<v Speaker 2>Green Bay for this opener and prepare their bodies and

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<v Speaker 2>be ready and comfortable with the playbook. But, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately it really comes down to, okay, who's out there

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<v Speaker 2>and how do they fill the role that's in front

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<v Speaker 2>of them? So whether that's on the offensive line, you know,

0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Matt LaFleur wasn't promising anything yet, wasn't tipping his hand

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<v Speaker 2>at all as far as what they're thinking with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Bacabuele at right tackle or Aaron Banks at left guard.

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<v Speaker 2>Both of those guys are working through some injuries throughout

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<v Speaker 2>training camp or recovery in the case of Zach. So

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<v Speaker 2>could they, you know, are they going to be back?

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<v Speaker 2>Will they start? Will there be rotation? You just don't know, right?

0:20:45.140 --> 0:20:48.060
<v Speaker 2>And like Matt said to one of the questions, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was from Paul Bredel, specifically talking about Flores' defense,

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<v Speaker 2>but Everybody is prepared here for so long now, and

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<v Speaker 2>now we just see what it looks like. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be things that surprise you. There's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be adjustments that have to get made. And then there

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<v Speaker 2>will be the hallmarks, the staples, the things that teams

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<v Speaker 2>are going to really rest their hopes and dreams on

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of their concepts and schemes. So there's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be things that are going to be inescapable about

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<v Speaker 2>this upcoming season. But how it's all intertwined is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be really interesting. I think what's cool for me,

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<v Speaker 2>from the outside looking in. Cause we like, we spent

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<v Speaker 2>this last 20 minutes or so, like kind of scouting

0:21:24.210 --> 0:21:27.030
<v Speaker 2>through Minnesota, but green Bay that we're going to see

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<v Speaker 2>a three safety based defense. We're going to see more

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<v Speaker 2>of that penny package, um, where they go heavier up front,

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<v Speaker 2>but have a little bit lighter secondary, lighter second level

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<v Speaker 2>behind it. Um, offensively look at all these weapons we've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about all off season, Mike Watson, golden read melt

0:21:43.140 --> 0:21:45.850
<v Speaker 2>back on offense. Tucker craft is back. They added two

0:21:45.900 --> 0:21:49.119
<v Speaker 2>tight ends here within the last two weeks. Um, how

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<v Speaker 2>all this looks. Caleb Johnson, the addition of Caleb Johnson

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<v Speaker 2>from Pittsburgh. These are the things that back in April, May,

0:21:55.050 --> 0:21:57.010
<v Speaker 2>you and I weren't necessarily talking about, but it's what

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like now. And the fact that Green Bay

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<v Speaker 2>can go out there, I think especially having 85 on

0:22:02.150 --> 0:22:03.590
<v Speaker 2>the field is going to be really critical for them,

0:22:03.930 --> 0:22:06.950
<v Speaker 2>especially against an opponent like this. It's just exciting to

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<v Speaker 2>finally watch it all kind of come to fruition.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, a couple other things I want to get your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on before we go. The first two games of

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<v Speaker 1>the 2026 NFL regular season coming up on Wednesday night

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<v Speaker 1>and Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry. Wednesday night. Wednesday night is the Superbowl rematch, which

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<v Speaker 1>is another thing I don't like, but because I think

0:22:29.570 --> 0:22:33.830
<v Speaker 1>they could have picked a much better matchup for Seattle

0:22:34.490 --> 0:22:38.030
<v Speaker 1>than just having a redo of the Superbowl, but it

0:22:38.109 --> 0:22:39.929
<v Speaker 1>is what it is. New England is at Seattle on

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday night. And then, Speaking of division matchups in week one,

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<v Speaker 1>a big one in the NFC West, halfway around the

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<v Speaker 1>world in Australia on Thursday night, or maybe it's on

0:22:49.750 --> 0:22:52.490
<v Speaker 1>Friday if you're over there, whatever the case might be.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the Rams against the 49ers, a big division

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<v Speaker 1>matchup in the NFC West. Your thoughts on these first two?

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<v Speaker 1>prime time games to kick off the 2026 regular season.

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<v Speaker 2>The Kyle Shanahan bit this week was hilarious. Oh, that was...

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<v Speaker 2>That was one of my all-time favorites. And I actually

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<v Speaker 2>give him a lot of credit. He actually kept that

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<v Speaker 2>together pretty well. He did.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you follow it, he does make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But then when you get to the end of this, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, 90-second... this 90 second soliloquy about it. Like

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<v Speaker 1>your head is just spinning in terms of what he

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<v Speaker 1>means by what day is what.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched it the second time through. I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>he got it all right. Other than the beginning, he

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<v Speaker 2>got it all right. And then there was the Raheem

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<v Speaker 2>Morris thing about how Raheem Morris didn't actually have a

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<v Speaker 2>birthday because of when they flew. By the time he

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<v Speaker 2>got there, his birthday was already over because it was

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<v Speaker 2>a day ahead. I'm actually okay with this. I understand

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<v Speaker 2>all this because I'm a UFC fan. So they do

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of events. There's been a lot of champions

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<v Speaker 2>out of that area of the world in both Australia

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<v Speaker 2>and New Zealand. So I, I'm familiar with them having

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<v Speaker 2>pay-per-views at night and it is like 9am in the

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<v Speaker 2>morning in Australia the next day. So, but yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that you get the Rams, I think it's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the cool things about the international initiative is places

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<v Speaker 2>like the Rams that do make so much sense, uh, to, to,

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<v Speaker 2>in that part of the world to be a team.

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<v Speaker 2>And then obviously, you know, California and San Francisco being

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<v Speaker 2>intertwined in that, I think it's gonna be a really

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<v Speaker 2>good matchup. Excited to see how all that unfolds. Certainly

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<v Speaker 2>the Aaron Donald thing is going to be thrust into

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<v Speaker 2>spotlight from day one. Interested to see what that looks like,

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<v Speaker 2>if that all comes together. I'm fascinated to see how

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<v Speaker 2>that unfolds. Um, New England and Seattle, to your point, I,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate it. I don't like it at all. I

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<v Speaker 2>think sometimes the NFL gets a little bit too, um,

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<v Speaker 2>lost in the sauce in terms of like, okay, well

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<v Speaker 2>they just played. So like, do we really need to

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<v Speaker 2>see it again? Like immediately? I think it, it, what

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<v Speaker 2>does it look like when both of those teams are

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<v Speaker 2>at 10, 11 wins in November? Yeah. Then let's see

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<v Speaker 2>what they look like. Like the Packers and Patriots back

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<v Speaker 2>in 2014. Yeah. Like to have them go right off

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<v Speaker 2>the bat, it just seems like, okay, well. We just

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<v Speaker 2>did this, but fine. Yeah. We'll do it again. And

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that, respectfully, neither team is like a superstar,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, laden team. Seattle has, you know, Jackson, Smith,

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<v Speaker 2>and Jigba, but he's still not like a household name

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<v Speaker 2>to the way that, like, a Justin Jefferson has become,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like in terms of the national branding. So,

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<v Speaker 2>and then, you know, New England kind of caught everybody

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<v Speaker 2>by surprise last year. So, it'll be fun. It'll be interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Football's back. The thing that ticks me off and why

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<v Speaker 2>I said I don't like it, though, is because I

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<v Speaker 2>think it sort of fiddled with how they did cutdowns

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<v Speaker 2>this year by having that Wednesday night game and then

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<v Speaker 2>having the Thursday night game right away in Australia. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I think that kind of, I, I, yeah, it was, it,

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<v Speaker 2>it felt like the, the combination of moving the kickoff

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<v Speaker 2>game for the defending Superbowl champs to Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the very, very early travel. Cause the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>went out to Australia very early, much earlier than the

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<v Speaker 1>49ers did. But all that early travel with regard to

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<v Speaker 1>the Australia game is where the cut down day got

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<v Speaker 1>shifted and, and everybody had to, kind of deal with that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I, I don't, I don't think it was, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was an ideal situation at all, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the league really cares either.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what's funny about the bi-week thing though, right? Because I've,

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<v Speaker 2>I've always made this joke about the league is never

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<v Speaker 2>going to put a cake on your doorstep that you're

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<v Speaker 2>not paying for. Like when we went from four precinct game,

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<v Speaker 2>preseason games of three, initially it was like, okay, well

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<v Speaker 2>it's a second bi-week and then, you know, cut down

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<v Speaker 2>days and we slide them into Tuesday now instead of

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday where he teams are finishing games and having

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<v Speaker 2>to cut their roster immediately. It was like some more flexibility.

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<v Speaker 2>If there's a way to turn that flexibility into an opportunity,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the league isn't going to shy away from that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm very conflicted about the Wednesday night start game.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a huge fan of it, but at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, I understand there's an entire country that has

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<v Speaker 2>been salivating for meaningful football for the last seven months.

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<v Speaker 2>And well, it's right in front of you now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's here. The season is going to get underway,

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<v Speaker 1>but One more show this week before you and I

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<v Speaker 1>will head off to Minneapolis and we'll get to our

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<v Speaker 1>keys to victory. Look at the rest of the week

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<v Speaker 1>one schedule in the NFL. We'll slice and dice it

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<v Speaker 1>from there. But for now, we'll call it a wrap

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<v Speaker 1>on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow

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<v Speaker 1>all of our coverage of the team on Packers.com. For Wes,

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<v Speaker 1>I am Mike. Thank you for tuning in, everybody. We

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<v Speaker 1>will see you next time.