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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: I am Joe and I'm Serena, and we are here

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Speaker 2: recapy episode three.

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Speaker 1: Of Jones season.

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Speaker 2: And later on we are going to have an interview

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Speaker 2: with Jonathan, who in this episode got a one on

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Speaker 2: one date, but he was a little sad because he

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Speaker 2: wanted to hang out with the boys on the group date.

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Speaker 1: Yo.

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Speaker 3: You know that wasn't why he was sad. Don't do

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Speaker 3: Jonathan like that?

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Speaker 2: Know, I actually can't wait to talk to Jonathan. Jonathan's

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Speaker 2: been in my final four. Well, he's in my final four.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's in your predictions for final four? Yes, based

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Speaker 3: on the headshots yep. And I actually still think he's

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Speaker 3: tracking to potentially end up in Jones Final four this season.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think I think after watching this episode, I

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Speaker 2: think Jonathan could be.

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Speaker 3: The guy the next Golden Bachelor.

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Speaker 1: No, I think you can end up with her real Maybe.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not. I'm not against that in any way.

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Speaker 1: Let's kick it off. Where where are we starting here?

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Speaker 3: We're starting off with a one on one date. We

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Speaker 3: have Pascal.

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Speaker 1: Love Pascal, you do love him. He's my favorite. He's

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Speaker 1: my favorite contestant right now.

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Speaker 3: He is incredibly entertaining. He's great, and he has like

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Speaker 3: really dark piercing eyes. Whenever he's on screen, I'm just

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Speaker 3: like he's searing his eyes.

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Speaker 2: He's just entertaining. Like you could just tell the man

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Speaker 2: has zero filter. He's gonna say whatever it is. And

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Speaker 2: he also has like this boyish charm to him. Like

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Speaker 2: when the when Joan showed up in the red car,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I think it was a Ferrari or

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Speaker 2: a Porsche, and he.

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Speaker 1: Was like ah, like he was so excited. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: man loves the finer things in life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you see yourself in Pascal. That's why you like him,

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Speaker 3: because you too like the finer things, and you too

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Speaker 3: would be so excited to drive around in a cool

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Speaker 3: car with a pretty girl.

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Speaker 1: I mean what a date though?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Did they get to go there? Like I was like, ah,

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Speaker 2: like the hell. Capture dates are always just like this

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Speaker 2: is a private jet.

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Speaker 3: Way better, way better.

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Speaker 1: Than a private jet to go to Las Vegas. We

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Speaker 1: get the law. They get to Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: They're at the Paris Hotel, they go to a suite,

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Speaker 2: they got a guy playing piano.

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Speaker 1: They're trying on different outfits.

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Speaker 3: And we see this day every season, they go shopping,

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Speaker 3: they try on gorgeous outfits. It's very luxurious. I feel

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Speaker 3: like the person that referred.

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Speaker 1: To himself as Julia Roberts and pretty woman.

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Speaker 3: He did, which I feel like is a great reference.

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Speaker 3: And I feel like the person that usually gets to

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Speaker 3: this date does.

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Speaker 1: Very well, goes pretty far.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Rachel on Matt Season got it still together

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Speaker 3: to this day. Maria did it with Joey. I mean

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Speaker 3: they did not end up together, but she too had

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Speaker 3: a very strong connection made it very far. So maybe

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Speaker 3: this is a hint that Pascal is going to be

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Speaker 3: here for a little wile Susie from Susie and Clayton.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pascal.

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Speaker 2: I think she chose Pascal because he he just seems

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Speaker 2: like he's somebody that if you want to unwind and

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Speaker 1: Date with him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I also feel like he's the opposite of

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Speaker 3: He loves luxury. I mean, he's out here having everyone

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Speaker 3: and he's talking about how he lives this luxurious lifestyle.

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Speaker 3: So you want to take some of the state that's

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Speaker 3: I would just like be just as happy, like sitting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a few kisses as well. Do you think Joan

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Speaker 3: I think that she's into him, and I think that

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Speaker 1: Romance same same. I can't there's I don't know what

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Speaker 2: I like, I really do like him, and I think

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Speaker 2: there I think he's got a lot of attractive qualities,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Joan is that into him.

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Speaker 3: Interesting yeah. Interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm watching like, ah this, Like, like you said, this,

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Speaker 2: this structured date. Usually the person that gets it ends

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think they will end up together. I

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Speaker 1: And yeah, he needs to be the golden he.

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Speaker 3: Needs to be the golden Bachelor. Like, I think the

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Speaker 3: dynamic is just off between them of like the roles

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Speaker 1: Interesting, that's not what I'm getting.

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Speaker 3: No, that's not what you see.

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Speaker 2: No, I just think there's I just I just don't think.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think they're.

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Speaker 1: Right for each other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it could just be as simple as that. Maybe

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to make it more complicated than it is.

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Speaker 2: We have to talk real quick. Wayne Newton shows up.

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Speaker 2: I was pretty excited to see Wayne Newton there. Wayne Newton,

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Speaker 1: He sings for them. It was nice little little moment.

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Speaker 3: This is so random and you're not probably gonna get

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Speaker 3: Wayne Newton is exactly how I picture him.

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Speaker 1: Wayne Newton.

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Speaker 3: Anytime I hear that song, I think of Ferris Bueler's

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Speaker 1: Docu Shane Donk Shane. Yeah, just reminds me of Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: He is like, I'm really glad that they got him

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Speaker 3: And you would know because you're there all the time.

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Speaker 1: I do go to Vegas a lot. Okay, moving on,

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Speaker 1: we got what do we have group date?

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Speaker 3: Uh? No, we have the night portion where Pascal opens

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Speaker 3: up about his childhood and his past. He said he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, basically nothing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know they were sharing beds, they had

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Speaker 1: Which honestly is just very inspirational.

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Speaker 2: When he said when he said, I moved to America,

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Speaker 2: positive mindset, you.

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Speaker 1: Got this, you got this, like honestly amazing. It makes

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Speaker 3: It makes me love him even more too, just to

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Speaker 1: He's a hustler and it looks great.

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Speaker 3: He's the hustler. He's resilient. I think like that, you know,

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Speaker 3: like the American dream story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he does talk about like he has a

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Speaker 1: But regardless, I don't think he's gonna end up with Jones.

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Speaker 3: But anyways, but anyways, we love Pascal. We see a

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Speaker 1: Another one of my final four.

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Speaker 3: You have a really good final four. I know, I

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Speaker 3: really like Guy. I'm glad we're finally getting see him

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Speaker 3: because he was one of our standouts out of the

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Speaker 3: Limo night one with his little like he did like

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And Charles L opens up about a question that's

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Speaker 2: He talks about she kind of she had a brain

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and foul yeah, and guy is kind of able

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Speaker 3: didn't do anything wrong, nothing was missed. The blood in

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Speaker 3: her biting her tongue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just honestly just really like, like sad, such

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Speaker 2: Charles get I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know if closure is the right word, but I guess.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe a little bit of closure on like a

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So nice moment there between those two guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, guy was really there for him at that moment.

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Speaker 3: He was very engaging and kind of gave him the

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Speaker 3: advice of stop asking yourself why guys.

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Speaker 1: Guys just the man, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, great guy.

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Speaker 2: He just Guy's a great guy. He you know, he helped.

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Speaker 2: He didn't leave Kim hanging. He went and sang a

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Speaker 3: I know, which I was like, that is such a

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Speaker 3: bro move. Good for you.

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Speaker 1: And then we have the kickball date.

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Speaker 3: Final for Jordan, Are you kidding?

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Speaker 2: Jordan's my final four Chicago. I remember I said, I

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Speaker 3: I really like him. Yeah, I like him a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And Joan cares about her family so much, and

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Speaker 3: No, we definitely don't want to see that happen again.

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Speaker 1: And then we get Jonathan gets the one on one.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to braw with the boys.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I know, I really I really like

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Speaker 1: I think Jones. I think they have a great connection.

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Speaker 2: He talked about his divorce, which was Yeah, even like

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Speaker 2: That's like, it's so it's rough because like when you

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Speaker 1: Never do it that way or like, but it's just

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Speaker 2: There's no when it comes to like a serious breakup,

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Speaker 2: I guess there's just like no right way or right time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I do think, you know, the ideal there's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that happens. That happens about one percent of the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I try to imagine it. I try to imagine

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Speaker 2: But yeah, if I you know, I came back with

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Speaker 2: There's actually a very funny, a funny Curb Your Enthusiasm episode, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've watched this episode yeah, where he's like.

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Speaker 4: Okay, no, he's like, he's like really, and he says

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Speaker 1: That you're you're thrilled about this moment? Is it's funny one?

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Speaker 2: But yeah, no, it's just when you hear those stories,

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Speaker 2: At this stage of their lives, rejection has probably hasn't

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Speaker 1: I was always anti packing my suitcase.

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Speaker 1: Day, but this is the end of the day.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, you know what is So I

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Speaker 1: If this is sick to say, great, let's hear it,

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think it's very common to attach the loss

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Speaker 3: felt like you were a blue jay. Just go with

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00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 3: the story, okay. And I'm on like a new date

445
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 3: and I'm starting to like flirt it up and like

446
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 3: fall for this guy. And then I see a blue

447
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 3: Jay and be like, Joe, get out of here, like

448
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 3: get I love you so much and like I'm comforted

449
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 3: to see you, but like this is not the.

450
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 1: Time, clearly not.

451
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 2: And this was a sick fucking story Jesus, Like on

452
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 2: a date flirting it up and I'm just flying around

453
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 2: like a blue jay.

454
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:43,239
Speaker 1: All right.

455
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 3: That's kind of what's happening here with Joan and Jonathan

456
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 3: the Hog. Like I would be like, now I'm sad

457
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 3: and I want to go crawl into bed and watch

458
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 3: old wedding videos. It would be very hard for me

459
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 3: to move on if you kept flying around me.

460
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 2: You know what if I do come back? Yeah, maybe

461
00:21:58,760 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 2: I will come back. It's a blue jay.

462
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 3: You will.

463
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 1: You're not giving I'm I give you a.

464
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: Nice little peck on the nose. Well, you're flirting it

465
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 2: up and then after a date. My favorite part of

466
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,360
Speaker 2: the episode, my man Gary is back.

467
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: I love it. Gary's out the screen.

468
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, before we get into Gary, do we want

469
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 3: to chat about Joan addressing the men and how she's

470
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 3: been feeling.

471
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: She's struggling.

472
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, the seeing the hawk really generated a lot of

473
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 3: emotions and she I mean, she lost her husband not

474
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 3: that long ago. And as much as I think it's

475
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 3: beautiful that she's looking for love again, I can imagine

476
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 3: there's still a lot of grief inside of her.

477
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.

478
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 3: I don't know if you ever get over it, Like

479
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 3: I don't think I would ever get over it if

480
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 3: you died.

481
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: No, you won't.

482
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think and these guys really sympathize with her,

483
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 2: and a lot of them are probably going through the

484
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 2: same thing.

485
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a lot of them have lost their

486
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 3: loved ones. I think we see Mark talk about how

487
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 3: he totally understands what she's saying in the sense that like,

488
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 3: you might only get eighty percent or ninety percent of

489
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 3: her because part of her will always be tied to

490
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 3: her husband who's no longer with her and that was

491
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 3: her partner for years.

492
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: Chock pulls her to the side and has a talk

493
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: which he's really good with her.

494
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was really sweet with her. I mean she

495
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 3: is doing the right thing, which is being vulnerable, right,

496
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 3: Like the lead is always asking the contestants to open

497
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 3: up and be vulnerable. We only have so much time.

498
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 3: You have to, you know, show me who you are.

499
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 3: So I think it's good that she was vulnerable as well.

500
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 3: And Chock actually he says something. He goes, I missed

501
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 3: you and I thought of you, And I was like,

502
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 3: that is really sweet. You should say that to me more.

503
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: Really you like that?

504
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just so simple. It wasn't anything like fluffy.

505
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: It was just like this week, I missed you and

506
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 3: I thought of you.

507
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 2: How about Kim creating a whole song that like none

508
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 2: of the guys wanted to sing with him that he

509
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: got upset?

510
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,719
Speaker 1: What am I watching her?

511
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean a guy actually wasn't into the song

512
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: when Kim was presenting it to the guys, I was,

513
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 3: I was on the team, dudes. I was like, this

514
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 3: isn't it. But when him and Guy did it and

515
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 3: she had such a rough night, it was just such

516
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 3: a light and silly. The worked thing.

517
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: It totally worked, not for him because he ends up

518
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: going on, not.

519
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 3: For him, but for Guy, and I think it's still

520
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 3: it was really sweet. Yeah, it was a gesture that

521
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 3: like they had to put time and thought and energy

522
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 3: into and I think that always lands.

523
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 1: And then then my man Gary comes back. Love Gary.

524
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: It was actually so nice to see Gary. I was

525
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 3: actually so happy to see him.

526
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: Gary needs to show up on every Golden Season at

527
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: this point, and he she.

528
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: You could tell just when you're on a.

529
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: Show like this, it's so nice to see a familiar

530
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 2: face where you're like, this is this is just kind

531
00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 2: of like a sense of normalcy, and they have a

532
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 2: good conversation and then Gary just like kind of drops

533
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 2: a bomb up, like what do you really think any

534
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: of these.

535
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: Guys are your guy? Are you worried that? Maybe?

536
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,479
Speaker 3: I know? I was like, whoa, we're hugging, We're happy.

537
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 3: Familiar face and we've taken a turn to very serious

538
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: question or I leave.

539
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: I just want to ask you, maybe there's a chance

540
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: that none of these guys.

541
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: Are for you.

542
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like, I don't know if we

543
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 3: want to put that doubt in her head, Gary, if

544
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 3: it's not something she's already thinking about. But I think

545
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 3: she felt very confident with her answer that she has

546
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 3: a lot of different connections. She's really getting to the guys.

547
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: I do think she has chemistry with a lot of

548
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 3: the guys, and I think it was probably reassuring just

549
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 3: for her to say that out loud for herself after

550
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 3: such a hard night of wondering if she can get there,

551
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 3: wondering if she can do this, just to remind herself, like, no,

552
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 3: I do really like these guys, and I am excited

553
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 3: to see where some of these connections go. Yeah, I

554
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 3: feel like but definitely a left field question from Gary.

555
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: I love it, but I liked it.

556
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 3: I'm glad.

557
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: I'm glad he asked that Gary, way to go to go?

558
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 3: Way to go, Gary?

559
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: And then we see yeah.

560
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 2: So then it just bro ceremony and then let's the

561
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: guys that go home. Were you shocked at any of

562
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: the I was a little upset to see Greg Go.

563
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 3: I was upset to see Greg Go. I liked him.

564
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 3: I don't know who's going to do Pascal's laundry now

565
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 3: because he's gone, So I'm worried about that.

566
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: Charles k Charles Kay was in your top four.

567
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: And I really like him, and I'm actually was surprised

568
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 3: see him go home, But we also really didn't see

569
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: a lot of him, so I'm wondering if maybe they

570
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 3: just didn't really have a connection. And then Kim, But

571
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 3: now we're kind of at the point of the season

572
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 3: going into next week where I mean, she has strong

573
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 3: connections with a lot of the guys left or at

574
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 3: least developed friendships. So I think most of the time

575
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 3: it's going to be shocking.

576
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: Now, well, this is when it gets This is when

577
00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 2: the Golden Seasons get sad. These people now go home

578
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: because it's like, damn, now now it's over.

579
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what was nice is they need they.

580
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 2: Really need to bring a a paradise for Golden because

581
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 2: that is the nice thing about seeing people go home

582
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: on our seasons.

583
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's always still the potential of paradise, is there.

584
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: There's that kind of hopeful feeling of like what might

585
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 3: have not worked out for you here, but like you

586
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 3: still might get a second chance at this. I would

587
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 3: love to see that. I would love to see just

588
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 3: like more of these golden relationships. And I do think

589
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 3: it feels sad when they get sent home of like, oh,

590
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 3: they came in with hope and like they left with nothing.

591
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 3: But we see Kim leave and he does say like

592
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 3: I'm hopeful now that I'm going to find love. And

593
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: I think even with the Golden Women on Gary season,

594
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 3: they always left on kind of an upbeat, positive note

595
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 3: on you know where their life is going to take

596
00:27:59,160 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 3: them now after this.

597
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also it's just yeah, it's just like a

598
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 2: it's such a unique fun experience in general, and then

599
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: to be able to do it, you know, in your

600
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 2: late later years of life. I mean like overall, it's

601
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 2: like I guarantee you, I will guarantee, but I will

602
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,239
Speaker 2: say probably a majority of people that have gone on

603
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: a Golden Season don't regret it.

604
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 3: You know who we haven't really seen since night one

605
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 3: is Keith.

606
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: Keith, we're seeing it, we see we see him talk.

607
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: I don't think it's at for I think she still

608
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: really likes Keith. I think we're gonna start seeing more

609
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: of Keith.

610
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. Who do you think is gonna get the one

611
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: on one next week?

612
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean we do see Chock go home.

613
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe they were just leaving that in the teaser,

614
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: like he's just going home.

615
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: It's like and next week Chock sent himself home. Don't

616
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 3: need to tune in if you're wondering what happens here.

617
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 3: We're gonna show him. Tell the guys, We're gonna show him.

618
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 3: Tell Joe, We're gonna show him. Got in the car.

619
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: I want to see Crazy, Yeah, Crazy, I want to see.

620
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna either be Jordan or Mark. Yeah right,

621
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: I would agree, I would say, or Guy, or you

622
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: can see Guy?

623
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe Guy?

624
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: Is there anyone else? Maybe Charles? Maybe maybe Charles. But yeah,

625
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: we'll have to see next week and.

626
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: Next week, and then don't forget to tune in because

627
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: we have our interview with Jonathan coming up. Joe's gonna

628
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: ask him how he has stayed looking so young, because

629
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: he's been wondering it since his cast photo came out.

630
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jonathan looks great.

631
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: Looking forward to that interview and Thank you guys so

632
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: much for tuning in too, bet your happy hour.

633
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: Make sure when you listen you subscribe and download. Thanks

634
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: for listening.

635
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: Bye,