Speaker 1: What's that at the bed spooky? Hey juky, I'm really
Speaker 1: sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I said, I loss nandas Plase. Hey boo, it's me
Speaker 1: Ross and welcome to Ghosted by us Hernandez, the podcast
Speaker 1: where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, one of my dear friends, Bob the
Speaker 1: drag Queen, is on the pod today, who, of course
Speaker 1: you know from winning RuPaul's Drag Race, the TV show
Speaker 1: We're Here Traders. And she's got a new book coming out.
Speaker 1: Very excit for Bob. And how's a good story she's got.
Speaker 1: She's got a good one. You're gonna enjoy this episode,
Speaker 1: I think. Of course, I wanted to tell you that
Speaker 1: I'm going on tour doing stand up in primarily gay bars,
Speaker 1: all over America. I'm coming near where you live, most likely,
Speaker 1: so go to Rozhernandez tour dot com. I've got dates
Speaker 1: in May. I even have Oh my gosh, I added
Speaker 1: Portland in June. I'm sure I've added more, all of July,
Speaker 1: all of August. I'm all over the place, so come
Speaker 1: see me. I won't be talking about ghosts a lot,
Speaker 1: but I'll be you know, talking about things. We'll be laughing,
Speaker 1: We'll be having fun. Let's hear a ghost story. Here's
Speaker 1: a ghost story from a listener named Will. Sort of
Speaker 1: a long one, but you know it's a good one,
Speaker 1: so stay with me. Well, writes Hey, raz. I love
Speaker 1: the show and it's a weekly highlight for me. I
Speaker 1: thought i'd write in to share some of the haunted
Speaker 1: encounters me and my family have experienced in our family
Speaker 1: home over the years. I grew up in a cottage
Speaker 1: in a village in the northwest of England, near the
Speaker 1: town of Blackpool. The cottage was built in seventeen eighty
Speaker 1: nine and members of my family have lived in it
Speaker 1: for roughly one hundred and fifty years. The first spirit
Speaker 1: that I was aware of was one seen separately by
Speaker 1: my mom and my gran my dad's mom. They both
Speaker 1: saw the same spirit, and it happened that each of
Speaker 1: them saw it the day before their weddings to my
Speaker 1: dad and granddad. They had never told another person about
Speaker 1: it until years later, and they were shocked. I realized
Speaker 1: they had seen the same thing. As my mom describes it,
Speaker 1: she'd been getting stuff ready for the wedding and had
Speaker 1: visited the house at the time my grandparents home and
Speaker 1: had walked into the living room. Sat in the corner
Speaker 1: of the room was an elderly woman who she'd never
Speaker 1: seen before. She went to say hello, thinking it was
Speaker 1: a family friend or a relative she had yet to meet,
Speaker 1: when she realized the old woman was, as she described it,
Speaker 1: hazy and a little sea through. My mom said she
Speaker 1: didn't feel afraid, and that it was a calm, warm presence.
Speaker 1: She said the old lady smiled at her and then
Speaker 1: slowly faded away. My grand said she had almost an
Speaker 1: identical experience, except the lady was stood by the window
Speaker 1: and not sitting. Both my mom and gran had been
Speaker 1: marrying into our family, so they had always wondered if
Speaker 1: the spirit was a family member who had previously lived
Speaker 1: in the home and this was her way of welcoming
Speaker 1: them into the family. Okay, now this is juicey. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have to finish this one up because it's listen.
Speaker 1: Will Will really gave it to us with the typing
Speaker 1: out of the story, and I'm fascinated anytime I hear
Speaker 1: of a family that lived in the same house for
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty years. So we're gonna get We're
Speaker 1: gonna hear about the other spirit in this house next week,
Speaker 1: so tune in for that, thank you will. Let's get
Speaker 1: it on over to my conversation with Bob the Drag Queen.
Speaker 1: On with this show, Bob the Drag Queen. Everybody, Hello,
Speaker 1: Hey Mary, how you doing?
Speaker 2: Is Mary right? It's ro.
Speaker 1: It's it. But I'm a big fan of Hamburger Mary's.
Speaker 2: Did you have you worked at Hamburger Mary's?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my god, of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I've been trying to get Roz to get back into drag,
Speaker 3: but she just kind of won't do it. But she
Speaker 3: also low Ki wants to be a miscontinental, but she's.
Speaker 1: Like afraid to do it. No, what you do?
Speaker 3: You want to be a miscontinental more than you want
Speaker 3: your next breath?
Speaker 2: Just say it.
Speaker 1: I could never compete with Miss Continental now. That attitude, Well,
Speaker 1: those girls are so flawless. I like being a little
Speaker 1: rough around the edges. I like that.
Speaker 3: Well you could, you could, you could pretend to be
Speaker 3: one of the you know, I'm super you know, quafted
Speaker 3: pristine girls for an evening to snatch a crown. I
Speaker 3: think you could do for this podcast Has a Ghost
Speaker 3: Has a Ghost Hunter?
Speaker 2: Ever? Won Miscontinental? You need to do it for the ghost.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Yeah, maybe maybe that'll be my talent and
Speaker 1: the Miscontinental pageant. I will go on stage.
Speaker 2: The ghost of former miscontinentals.
Speaker 1: I'll see if I can conjure up the ghost that
Speaker 1: famously called me slurs, and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: Do you ever find the name of the ghost?
Speaker 1: Bob?
Speaker 2: It was you?
Speaker 3: That was That was just me walking by your bunk
Speaker 3: on the on the bus, just whispering, faggot.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Bob and I did well. We weirdly
Speaker 1: did two things right back to back, because you're kind
Speaker 1: enough to let me open for you on the.
Speaker 2: Road and you're kind enough to accept.
Speaker 1: And we then we randomly went on a cruise together
Speaker 1: that we both happened to be performing on and we
Speaker 1: when we were on the tour, we went to you know,
Speaker 1: every time I perform in a big theater, I ask
Speaker 1: if it's haunted, and they were pretty much all haunted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all theaters are haunted. That's what they say.
Speaker 1: That's what they said.
Speaker 3: But people aren't dying in the theaters, are they? As
Speaker 3: do ghosts just love live theater.
Speaker 1: Well, when I'm most like.
Speaker 3: Are ghosts, Like, no, I actually died at a said go
Speaker 3: around the corner. But I just love life theater.
Speaker 1: When i'm there, people, someone's dying on stage.
Speaker 2: I don't know there were ghosts, but well you went.
Speaker 2: They kept hearing boo, wow that was just me from
Speaker 2: the wings though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, no. People, there's every single old theater somebody died.
Speaker 1: They were reckless back in those days, back in the
Speaker 1: in the late eighteen hundred's turn of the century. These
Speaker 1: people were out there just dropping shit on people's heads
Speaker 1: by accident.
Speaker 2: Every production with Spider Man turn Off the Dark.
Speaker 1: It literally was. But like they're special effects. I've heard
Speaker 1: so many stories of these old theaters where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: they had fire on stage and the fire knocked over
Speaker 1: and then everyone burned down.
Speaker 2: How'd you go about dying on stage?
Speaker 1: I have?
Speaker 2: Are we basically the same age? I'm a little older
Speaker 2: than you.
Speaker 1: You're older than me a little not much. No, you're
Speaker 1: you're quite older than me.
Speaker 3: I can google your age. You're famous enough for me
Speaker 3: to be able to google your age.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you can google my net worth too, And
Speaker 1: I don't recommend you take either of those.
Speaker 3: This truth Roserlandez. It says that you were. It says
Speaker 3: you'r the comedian and semi retired drag queen.
Speaker 1: It's a semi retired, Yes.
Speaker 3: Semi retired drag performer shares the spooky origins of her
Speaker 3: parent normal.
Speaker 1: Podcast semi sized drag queen.
Speaker 2: Your age is actually hard to find than I thought
Speaker 2: it would be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not famous, That's why, Bob. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: not a queak out winner. Yet you look like I.
Speaker 2: Did a Mitel in this picture they have of you
Speaker 2: on IMDb. Bob, let it go, you do. I'm not
Speaker 2: the first one I tell you like I did a Mizelle.
Speaker 2: There's no way.
Speaker 3: I'm the first person to ever say out loud that
Speaker 3: you kind of look like I did a Mistel. There's
Speaker 3: no way.
Speaker 1: I usually here, Leah Michelle, I hear.
Speaker 2: But they look alike though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so, Bob, listen, we are here to
Speaker 1: talk about ghosts. That's the reason that I invited you here.
Speaker 3: So the last thing here are biographies are us. It
Speaker 3: says you are twenty eight to thirty years.
Speaker 1: Old work, so it is right, So it is accurate.
Speaker 2: In twenty eight to thirty is, so.
Speaker 1: It's accurate.
Speaker 3: I'm obsessed, but that is no way that's true. But
Speaker 3: I am obsessed with twenty eight to thirty.
Speaker 1: That is, say how much money I have?
Speaker 2: I can google that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do rouse Hernada's networks, because talk about this is paranormal.
Speaker 2: Here, your net worth is three million dollars.
Speaker 1: Oh it's less than the real number?
Speaker 2: Ganggang, Can I borrow some money please?
Speaker 1: Now? Not true, But what is true always is people's
Speaker 1: claims of the paranormal, every single time, every single time.
Speaker 1: Where are you at on any of that stuff? Do
Speaker 1: you believe in this sort of a thing, that there's
Speaker 1: more than meets the eye?
Speaker 2: Well, I have had paranormal occurrences in my life and
Speaker 2: I still don't believe it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the same way. I think it's a me problem.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm just being dramatic, but I have.
Speaker 3: Had paranormal things happen, but I still don't believe it.
Speaker 3: That's kind of crazy, right, are you?
Speaker 1: Like everything not everything happens for a reason, but.
Speaker 3: Like, oh no, not at all. Whatever the opposite of
Speaker 3: that is, I think things just happen. There's no rhyme
Speaker 3: or reason, like, truly, we can't justify everything that happen,
Speaker 3: Like I feel like it makes sense to want to
Speaker 3: justify white things happening to you, and that makes total
Speaker 3: sense to me. But sometimes it feels better for me
Speaker 3: to know that things just happen and it was just
Speaker 3: shitting and there was no rhyme or reason. That feels
Speaker 3: better than trying to justify why something bad happened to me. Okay,
Speaker 3: kind of want my pain to be like some lesson
Speaker 3: for someone I don't even fucking know, right.
Speaker 1: I know that that's where all of that can get difficult,
Speaker 1: because then you go, Okay, why did this?
Speaker 2: Why get cancer for no reason exactly that the other
Speaker 2: kids can see how great life is. Well, fuck those
Speaker 2: other kids. I don't want.
Speaker 1: Cancer exactly exactly, So I get that for sure. Do
Speaker 1: you does that have anything to do with like coincidences?
Speaker 1: Do you do you think that there's any truth to
Speaker 1: a coincidence or your scum now it's just something happened.
Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about probably one of the biggest coincidences, right,
Speaker 3: the fact that the Okay, so, the size of the
Speaker 3: Earth in relation to the Moon, and the distance from
Speaker 3: the Earth and the distance to the Moon is the
Speaker 3: same as the size of the Earth in relation to
Speaker 3: the Sun and the distance in the two, which is
Speaker 3: why this is the only planet in the world that
Speaker 3: has a solar eclipse where you get the diamond ring effects. Right, So,
Speaker 3: because the Sun and the do you get what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying here, Bob Degrass Tyson, there's.
Speaker 3: No other planet where the Moon goes between the Earth
Speaker 3: and that planet and the Sun and they're the exact
Speaker 3: same size. Either the Moon is way too big and
Speaker 3: it'll block out the Sun completely, or the Moon is
Speaker 3: way too small and you'll just see the Sun around
Speaker 3: it completely. It'll just be like one little bike spot
Speaker 3: in the middle of the sun, or the Sun is
Speaker 3: so powerful that it will just envelop and you won't
Speaker 3: even tell that it's there. I believe that's just a
Speaker 3: random ass coincidence.
Speaker 1: I didn't keep up with that necessarily. But are there
Speaker 1: things that you think are coincidences or I just described
Speaker 1: a coincidence to you that are there things that you go,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, that that really means something or is
Speaker 1: that just does that go back to what you were
Speaker 1: saying originally about not?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is just it is just because the world
Speaker 3: is so randomized that some of the things just have
Speaker 3: to be remarkable. Have you ever done a thing where
Speaker 3: like you reach into a bunch of eminem's or you
Speaker 3: reach into like something where there's a bunch of something
Speaker 3: and you pull out the exact amount you need. Oh,
Speaker 3: and it's just a coincidence, because there's so many times
Speaker 3: where you pulled out and it was not the amount
Speaker 3: you needed. There have been so many times you pulled
Speaker 3: out way more or way less. But statistically speaking, when
Speaker 3: you caught this one time out of you know, whatever
Speaker 3: the odds are, it seems remarkable because it is more
Speaker 3: remarkable than pulling out one too many or five too little.
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you pull out, you just do it right.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I don't have a lot of experience with that. No'm kidding,
Speaker 3: ill out a lot. Uh yeah sometimes yeah, well okay, but.
Speaker 1: What about this, Like, you know, what I've been thinking
Speaker 1: about lately is the concept of like why we are
Speaker 1: happening now? Like there's certain people where you go, God,
Speaker 1: if you were today and not in the eighties, you
Speaker 1: would be the biggest star in the world.
Speaker 3: Well, I think about the fact that if I was
Speaker 3: born one hundred years ago, y'all would have never heard
Speaker 3: of me, because I would be so oppressed that you
Speaker 3: probably would never even heard of me if I was
Speaker 3: born tw hundred years ago. Jesus Christ, I'm so happy
Speaker 3: and lucky to be alive when I am. Now, there's
Speaker 3: probably someone who was born in eighteen oh four who
Speaker 3: would have been probably the best fucking drag queen this
Speaker 3: world's ever fucking seen, Funnier than any of us, more
Speaker 3: talented than any of us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jackie b Us, she is still alive, and she's
Speaker 1: none of those things.
Speaker 3: It's the you know what she says in Gypsy. I
Speaker 3: was born too soon, I started too late. Some people
Speaker 3: just had that happen to.
Speaker 1: Them, you know, Okay, Like, how about this to make
Speaker 1: it about you, you were when you were on drag Grace,
Speaker 1: Like the fact that you were on when you were
Speaker 1: on doesn't that almost feel like something special? Like do
Speaker 1: you ever think about that?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Wow, I feel lucky that I had, Like I moved
Speaker 3: to New York City and drag Race started the year
Speaker 3: I moved to New York City. I feel really lucky
Speaker 3: that that happened to me because I could have. But
Speaker 3: also all the talents queens who moved to New York
Speaker 3: City and were moved there in the seventies or eighties,
Speaker 3: and their drag performers, they could have been the biggest
Speaker 3: star drag race has ever seen. But they did the
Speaker 3: New City night life seeing for their ten years. They
Speaker 3: did their time, They got their bachelor's degree in nightlife,
Speaker 3: and now their accountants or lawyers, or teachers or or
Speaker 3: waiters or whatever they are.
Speaker 1: You know, right, tell me a ghost story.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a ghost story, but when, uh,
Speaker 2: is this a ghost story?
Speaker 1: I don't listen. I have a gavel right here and
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go.
Speaker 3: So I would call it a paranormal activity more than
Speaker 3: a ghost story.
Speaker 2: Who knows what I was seeing.
Speaker 3: This could have been a polter guyst This could have
Speaker 3: been a ghost, This could have been a demon, This
Speaker 3: could have been an.
Speaker 1: If anybody has authority, it's me.
Speaker 2: We're gonna find out.
Speaker 1: If there's anyone in this world that could tell you
Speaker 1: these unexplainable things, it's me.
Speaker 3: So when I was eight years old, I was living
Speaker 3: in Columbus, Georgia, and my mom and my brother were
Speaker 3: up doing laundry, and when I was in my bed,
Speaker 3: this circle, like this pool of light came from the ceil.
Speaker 3: It was formed on the ceiling of my first floor apartment,
Speaker 3: in my bedroom. And then his feet came down through
Speaker 3: this pool of light. No, yeah, there's something I saw.
Speaker 3: Did it happen?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Did I see it? Yes, it was a white man's feet.
Speaker 3: He came to He was a blonde white man, okay,
Speaker 3: And he looked at me, and he was wearing a
Speaker 3: very angelic type clothes. He looked like an angel. I
Speaker 3: don't remember if he had wings or not, but I
Speaker 3: remember that he looked like an angel, the depiction that
Speaker 3: we see on the television. And he said, don't go
Speaker 3: to Mississippi this summer. Your grandma's gonna die. And then
Speaker 3: he shot back into this and at this time, I
Speaker 3: couldn't scream. I couldn't I could not move.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 3: It was I think I was experiencing sleep paralysis. I'm
Speaker 3: almost positive I was experiencing sleep paralysis. And I said,
Speaker 3: I tried to scream, but I could not scream. I
Speaker 3: couldn't even move. And then he went back into the
Speaker 3: ceiling and then I was able to scream, and I
Speaker 3: screamed at the top of my lungs, and my mom
Speaker 3: came running down from the laundromat and I was crying hysterically,
Speaker 3: and I kept saying, we cannot go to Misisippi this summer.
Speaker 3: Grandma's gonna die. We cannot go. Grandma's gonna die, She's
Speaker 3: gonna die, We can't go. And my grandma died that
Speaker 3: summer and I went to Mississippi. My mom was like,
Speaker 3: don't be ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I said no. An angel came down.
Speaker 3: He told me that we can't go to missip this summer,
Speaker 3: or if we do, Grandma Liz is gonna die. And
Speaker 3: we did go that summer, and she did pass away
Speaker 3: the summer of nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 2: That's a true story.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: The reason why I think it was sleep paralysis and
Speaker 3: me experiencing an hallucination is because the angel looked just
Speaker 3: like the angel looked in my Bible vhs is that
Speaker 3: I had. I mean he looked, I mean he looked
Speaker 3: obviously was it was a blond, white man. He looked
Speaker 3: exactly how he looked in those VHS's but they were cartoons.
Speaker 2: But he looked like the real life version of that.
Speaker 1: Well maybe it was him. Listen, you can't just make
Speaker 1: a living doing Bible VHS's maybe it's a side hustle
Speaker 1: he had.
Speaker 2: You never know. And also.
Speaker 3: I was a kid who used to I think, on
Speaker 3: three or four different occasions I correctly guessed lottery numbers.
Speaker 1: Too, what, Bob, you are a psychic?
Speaker 3: Like on three or four occasions, I remember telling my
Speaker 3: mom money, you gotta play it was it was a
Speaker 3: three the three ball. Oh, you got to play these numbers,
Speaker 3: and she never ever played them. And then when she
Speaker 3: finally started listening to me, it was too late and
Speaker 3: I had lost the gift.
Speaker 1: See there, you'll hear from some psychics that will be like,
Speaker 1: it's not even necessarily that they have these supernatural powers.
Speaker 1: They just have some ghosts that keeps coming to them
Speaker 1: and telling them the answers. And that's like they're just
Speaker 1: relaying the message from the whoever, the ghosts, the angel whatever.
Speaker 2: So do you go see the future of these ghost
Speaker 2: telling about the past.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know who knows that one whatever you
Speaker 1: encountered clearly saw the future. But what that is like,
Speaker 1: my mind is blown. This is a good one, Bob.
Speaker 3: And what makes it really interesting that my grandmother was
Speaker 3: not old. My grandmother passed away fifty four years old.
Speaker 3: So it was it was heart attack, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: or gang violence. I'll let you decide. And okay, it
Speaker 3: was a heart attack. My grandma was a crip and
Speaker 3: the bloods were sick of it. No, it was my
Speaker 3: grandma had a heart attack at fifty four and passed away.
Speaker 1: Wow whah, And it was out of nowhere.
Speaker 3: If there were there were no signs, it's been signed.
Speaker 3: She probably had like you know, high cholesterol or something.
Speaker 1: But let me ask this, if you didn't go, she
Speaker 1: would have lived.
Speaker 2: Who knows.
Speaker 1: According to the ghost.
Speaker 3: Maybe the angel didn't. Angel did not say if you go,
Speaker 3: He said, don't go. Your grandmother will die.
Speaker 2: So she could have died anyway.
Speaker 1: But maybe she was gonna die. You just don't want
Speaker 1: to be around it.
Speaker 2: And I actually wasn't there.
Speaker 3: My brother was there when she started having a heart
Speaker 3: attack and she passed away to the hospital. My brother
Speaker 3: is the one who actually went and got her boyfriend
Speaker 3: and was like, something's wrong with grandma.
Speaker 2: Something's wrong with with grandma.
Speaker 3: Grandma lives and then my brother was whisked away and
Speaker 3: I was at my cousin's house, Mount Lisa's house, and
Speaker 3: we were uh, so they just kind of put us
Speaker 3: upstairs and they told us to play video and we
Speaker 3: play video games. And then I remember them coming in
Speaker 3: and being like, your grandmother passed away.
Speaker 1: That is so crazy, and so nothing like this has
Speaker 1: ever happened to you.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 3: Well, when I was like twenty or nineteen years old,
Speaker 3: I was staying in a like a it wasn't a
Speaker 3: military base, but this this, this uh home I was in,
Speaker 3: or this like hotel or whatever it was I was in,
Speaker 3: used to be a military base because I was working
Speaker 3: in children's theater and I went to this uh like
Speaker 3: military summer camp to teach these kids how to do
Speaker 3: like sleeping beauty.
Speaker 2: Or rumple still skin one of those who shows.
Speaker 3: And I was lying in bed and it was another
Speaker 3: battle sleep proalyssis.
Speaker 2: I was lying in bed. And have you ever had
Speaker 2: sleep proalysis before?
Speaker 1: Never? Not once?
Speaker 2: I have it constantly.
Speaker 1: You sleep on your back, huh?
Speaker 2: I should?
Speaker 3: I try to, but sometimes it happens on my side too.
Speaker 3: It's actually scarier when it happens on your side than
Speaker 3: it is when you're on your back because when you're
Speaker 3: in your side, you can't see anything. You can only
Speaker 3: see like the wall behind you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I was lying in bed on my back
Speaker 2: this time, like.
Speaker 1: Always, Yeah, that's a lot of the stories you tell.
Speaker 3: And the room got really really cold, if I remember correctly,
Speaker 3: And it was the summertime, so it was very odd
Speaker 3: that was so cold.
Speaker 1: And so nice.
Speaker 3: So it was one of those It was like a
Speaker 3: like a railroad style, like I could see from the
Speaker 3: bedroom into the little foyer into this other living room
Speaker 3: eras all one big and these windows opened up, and
Speaker 3: this woman in this like long, flowy white dress. She
Speaker 3: kind of looked like the grug the girl from a Grudge,
Speaker 3: but a little more glamorous. And she was like just
Speaker 3: slowly like floating toward me, and I could not move.
Speaker 3: Sleep paralysis is terrifying. Like when you have sleep paralysis,
Speaker 3: you have this immense sense of fear. You feel so afraid.
Speaker 3: It feels like something's coming to get you. It's scary
Speaker 3: when you're on your side because you can only see
Speaker 3: the wall or the pillow or whatever you're looking at.
Speaker 3: You can't even move a finger, and this thing just
Speaker 3: kept getting closer and closer to me, and she just
Speaker 3: like hovered at the foot of my bed for what
Speaker 3: felt like an eternity, and then it all just started
Speaker 3: vanishing and fading away, and then I was able to
Speaker 3: like finally wake up, wake up. So I think it
Speaker 3: might have been a bad dream that was me.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I see it as you sure.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing with sleep paralysis. It's one
Speaker 1: of one of these things where you can explain it
Speaker 1: away by science. So this happens when whatever. But I
Speaker 1: think it could be also paranormal at the same time,
Speaker 1: Like I think that that could be a ghost.
Speaker 2: Do you know that there was There's like stories of
Speaker 2: people who.
Speaker 3: They went to a coma and then they they were
Speaker 3: in the coma for like a week or a month
Speaker 3: or something, and then when they came to they were like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, where's my family? Like in the coma
Speaker 3: they lived an entire life, like died at eighty. So
Speaker 3: the mind is obviously incredibly powerful, right, So that's why
Speaker 3: I think that some people who have who have come
Speaker 3: close to passing away or passed way and came back.
Speaker 3: Your mind creates a reality for you. Our time is
Speaker 3: completely distorted and whatever you think you're seeing, And because
Speaker 3: our brains are essentially made of the exact same manner
Speaker 3: or the same material, that's why when you're all high.
Speaker 3: You're having similar experiences and similar feelings, and you see
Speaker 3: similar waves and.
Speaker 2: Lights and stuff.
Speaker 3: Because our brains are made of the same thing, We're
Speaker 3: all having very similar experiences.
Speaker 2: And that is what we think is the religious experience.
Speaker 1: I have talked. Are you saying religion isn't real?
Speaker 2: I am saying that emphatically.
Speaker 1: I have talked to so many millennials, and I've mentioned
Speaker 1: this on the podcast probably multiple times.
Speaker 3: Are you gonna Are you gonna make a judgment on
Speaker 3: my experience? If it was a ghost or if it
Speaker 3: was a demon, you didn't make any judgment.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, a ghost.
Speaker 2: Not an angel, not a demon, not a poultry.
Speaker 1: Guist, not a poultr geist. Poultry geist translates to noisy ghost,
Speaker 1: and it usually is not connected to a human like being.
Speaker 1: It's usu just like someone throwing shit or somehow shit
Speaker 1: gets thrown. An angel sure feels a little religious to me,
Speaker 1: But why not? Or is that just a good ghost
Speaker 1: or like you know, a ghost with special powers.
Speaker 2: I'm not ghost for telling the future. Because this ghost
Speaker 2: told me your grandma got another summer.
Speaker 1: That is avarition, right, Yeah, maybe that is an angel.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure now when you think about something. Wait,
Speaker 1: I have a point that I was about to make though,
Speaker 1: But but also when you think, okay, that's an angel,
Speaker 1: does that make you think, well, then that maybe that
Speaker 1: means Jesus is real or like.
Speaker 2: Because I think Jesus.
Speaker 3: I feel pretty certain that Jesus did exist and walk
Speaker 3: the earth, and historians are pretty uh, they have a
Speaker 3: general consensus yeah that he wasted.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but what about this the powers.
Speaker 2: Charlatan and a scam artist probably yeah?
Speaker 1: Well, okay, So what I was gonna say is about
Speaker 1: then I've talked about this before a lot of people
Speaker 1: give or take why I was gonna say our age,
Speaker 1: But according to the Internet, I'm not really in this category.
Speaker 1: But saw The Ring and the Grudge at like a
Speaker 1: preteen kind of age, teen whatever, and it really stuck
Speaker 1: with them. And so many people will tell me sleep
Speaker 1: press the stories where it's that they see the girl
Speaker 1: with the long hair. Now was this girl? Was she
Speaker 1: out there trying to do this before those movies came out?
Speaker 1: Or is this just that's what we think of as
Speaker 1: the scariest fucking thing ever because it was so traumatic
Speaker 1: for us to see us at that age in like.
Speaker 2: Two hundred years, are ghosts gonna show up wearing skinny jeans?
Speaker 3: I feel like there was a ghost and a pair
Speaker 3: of big, oversized baggy pants and it had a middle
Speaker 3: part and it was really scary.
Speaker 2: Of course it was holding a Stanley cup. I'm so scared.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: What I think about more so is like people that
Speaker 1: are like really into extreme like body modification and stuff
Speaker 1: like sometimes you see like ooh, this man, he lives
Speaker 1: his life as a snake or whatever. If that man's
Speaker 1: ghost came back in the middle of the night, that
Speaker 1: would be very startling.
Speaker 2: When you come back as a ghost, how do you
Speaker 2: want to up hear? Do you think that? Is this
Speaker 2: your peak form right now? Is it like a year ago?
Speaker 1: You said that, Really it's with a tone. You said
Speaker 1: that with a tone. I think I would want to
Speaker 1: come back dressed like a Dina Menzell, and I want
Speaker 1: people right now so this very moment, what first of all,
Speaker 1: this look is adele deseame, which is different your hipster.
Speaker 1: This is this is adele disease, not quite a Dina Menzell.
Speaker 2: Silver like silver like a Dnamozelle is adultaza.
Speaker 1: Wow, Bob, these I'm actually really impressed by your stories.
Speaker 1: I can't I can't believe it's taken seven years to
Speaker 1: get you on this podcast.
Speaker 2: I mean, the experiences are the I had the experience.
Speaker 2: Did it really happen? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think it was of my mind. I have a
Speaker 3: very creative mind. It just greats stuff even without my consent.
Speaker 3: But I still don't think I saw a ghost though.
Speaker 1: The fact that there's the prediction element to the one
Speaker 1: that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes it really weird.
Speaker 1: That's really crazy. And also why did that angel only
Speaker 1: tell you that thing but not other things?
Speaker 3: He just had a message to send me, but I
Speaker 3: didn't listen. Well, i'd listen. My mom didn't listen.
Speaker 1: But still it's like, I don't know, it's weird. It
Speaker 1: seems like there could be so many other things that
Speaker 1: could have warned you about throughout your life.
Speaker 3: Or he could have been he could have been like
Speaker 3: something's gonna come. It's gonna be called bitcoin and invest early.
Speaker 3: That would have been great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. Yeah, it's very strange. But you
Speaker 1: know what, that's what's fun about this. We don't know.
Speaker 1: We don't know. If we did, I wouldn't have a podcast.
Speaker 2: This is true.
Speaker 1: Hey, Bob. One thing that's always very real and accurate.
Speaker 1: We look at haunted dolls on this podcast. Can I
Speaker 1: show you a doll that's currently for sale on eBay
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Shows me.
Speaker 1: It's time for the dolls are living?
Speaker 2: Okay, you're going to prison. You're going to prison, Bob.
Speaker 1: We like to look at these haunted dolls. I just
Speaker 1: go to eBay dot com. I type and haunted doll.
Speaker 1: This one it's going for fifty five dollars.
Speaker 2: That's not a bad price.
Speaker 1: Her name's Maria. Show us Maria Gieha, you got it rise?
Speaker 2: So what's she haunted with?
Speaker 1: She definitely I'm guessing she's like a paper mache doll
Speaker 1: you would get in Mexico. There is a cultural element
Speaker 1: to her.
Speaker 2: Can we click on one of her body please? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, now I see yeah, yeah, that she's she seemed
Speaker 3: to be wearing like some sort of a traditional Latin
Speaker 3: American garment and she's it's like a big, big, flowy
Speaker 3: skirt and it's the color of candy corn with one
Speaker 3: random like I'm colorblind, what's that one strip at the bottom,
Speaker 3: second the bottoms with a green So it's candy corn
Speaker 3: with a green strip at the bottom and she's holding
Speaker 3: the dress up as if she's either walking or performing
Speaker 3: some sort of a dance.
Speaker 1: Yes, I actually have a lot. I kind of collect
Speaker 1: these I have, Like every time I got to Mexico,
Speaker 1: I usually get like a Dia delas Mortos or something
Speaker 1: type paper mache doll like this. She's not yes, I am.
Speaker 3: Okay, She's gonna say otherwise, you're just like a culture vulture.
Speaker 3: But you're a Mexican, so we will permiss it.
Speaker 1: Thank you you. She's not going strong on the makeup.
Speaker 1: She basically is just doing a lash and a lip.
Speaker 2: But that lower liner is really cut. That lower liner
Speaker 2: is giving down.
Speaker 1: Because she's doing the little where it extends underneath in
Speaker 1: the corner, and I like that for sure. Okay, now
Speaker 1: here's the thing. So she is haunted. There is a
Speaker 1: spirit inside of her, and the spirit inside of her, well,
Speaker 1: let me just read you because it comes with a bio.
Speaker 1: Maria is larger than life, and even death couldn't dim
Speaker 1: her spotlight. From the moment I began working with her,
Speaker 1: I knew she was fabulous, dramatic and absolutely unforgettable. Some
Speaker 1: spirits whisper, some spirits linger in the background, but Maria.
Speaker 1: Maria struts in, steals the scene and demands her standing ovation.
Speaker 1: She's not shy, not subtle, and definitely not for the
Speaker 1: fame of heart. If you welcome Maria into your space,
Speaker 1: expect sass, expect glamour, and expect to feel a little
Speaker 1: bit more fabulous just by being in her presence.
Speaker 2: Is Maria the spirit or is she the doll?
Speaker 1: The spirit inside of the doll?
Speaker 2: Is Maria?
Speaker 1: So this is all real. She was a drag queen.
Speaker 2: You feel like she was a drag queen.
Speaker 1: This is what this says. It says she was drag queen,
Speaker 1: a queen of the nightlife and a soul who lived
Speaker 1: for the electric thrill of the stage.
Speaker 2: Some assuming she's a doll from PV. It could be.
Speaker 1: Yes, She's a Portavarta drag queen, possibly that has found
Speaker 1: her way in here. She passed around her thirties or forties.
Speaker 1: But she does not dwell on sadness. She refuses to
Speaker 1: be remembered in sorrow. She wants to be remembered in glory, power,
Speaker 1: in sequence and rhyme stones.
Speaker 2: There are no sequence or ryanstones anywhere on the all.
Speaker 3: There's got to be a doll in Mexico that has
Speaker 3: sequences of Ryan Stones on it, like it was she
Speaker 3: did she wish she was just like a last minute
Speaker 3: by This is where is there a buyer's remorse?
Speaker 1: This is the closest doll she was able to find,
Speaker 1: because I do think it's like, Okay, I'm a ghost
Speaker 1: and I'm floating around. Where do I go? And then
Speaker 1: like you just have to find what doll you can?
Speaker 1: You can and you jump in.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't possess a doll. I would possess a speaker,
Speaker 2: like a Bluetooth speaker.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Yeah, that would be fun.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, Electronics turning on by themselves, it's scarier
Speaker 3: than like an an anim an object slightly rotating at
Speaker 3: like one degree.
Speaker 2: Mm, yeah, you been home? You ever been home when
Speaker 2: the TV turned on byself?
Speaker 1: No? But my home's not haunted. Why does that happen
Speaker 1: in your home?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: It's maybe happened like once or twice, not my current home.
Speaker 3: But sometimes my boyfriend would do this thing where he
Speaker 3: stands right outside of the home, like outside the door,
Speaker 3: and he will turn on the Google Home and have
Speaker 3: it play Beyonce's Dun Crazy I Love, and then he
Speaker 3: marches to the house, open the door, and it stops
Speaker 3: around the house and whenever I'm not prepared for it's
Speaker 3: very scary.
Speaker 1: That's fun. So back to this doll, I'm kind of
Speaker 1: convinced that this is one of these cases that maybe
Speaker 1: this makes me sound full of myself, but I think
Speaker 1: that they're I'm I am suspicious of people that want
Speaker 1: to have a thing on this podcast because they know
Speaker 1: I'm always looking for funny dolls that are haunted for sale.
Speaker 1: This one sounds real spot on. It sounds like girl,
Speaker 1: she's a drag queen, but it says that she is
Speaker 1: good for somebody that is a performer likes to be
Speaker 1: on stage. I mean, it could be fun to have
Speaker 1: her around.
Speaker 2: Do you think these people are targeting you? They listen
Speaker 2: to like, oh roswal By.
Speaker 1: This, Well, they're like, oh, she'll feature this on the podcast.
Speaker 1: She'll love that. She'll get a kick out of this one.
Speaker 2: Do you ever buy any of them?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, although my manager did buy me one and
Speaker 1: and not a damn thing has happened since it's been
Speaker 1: at my home.
Speaker 2: But do you like having it there?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I do not. Is your manager listening?
Speaker 1: Probably?
Speaker 2: You can't just tell people you don't want their gifts.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: No, he knows I didn't want that. Wow, he did. See.
Speaker 1: Here's here's a problem that I deal with a lot, Bob,
Speaker 1: is that, first of all, people think that I'm spooky
Speaker 1: and scary, which I'm not. I like to talk about
Speaker 1: spooky as scary things. Okay, I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 1: I ain't no goth. Yeah, my hair is black, but
Speaker 1: that's just naturally how it is. I can't.
Speaker 2: It is my hair black? Yes? Do I hit my
Speaker 2: nose black? Yes, I've been wearing black lipstick. Yes. Do
Speaker 2: I wear a colder everycasion? Yes? I do. Am I
Speaker 2: holding a book of Satanic rituals? Yes, I'm not goth.
Speaker 1: You've never seen me do any of those things. Besides
Speaker 1: having black hair, I wear hot pink, I wear razzle dazzle.
Speaker 2: Yoah.
Speaker 3: Go to my Twitter right now, I have a footage
Speaker 3: of ros performing a Satanic ritual addressed in all black.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's just because what's your favorite movie? Though?
Speaker 1: First of all, that was one time, and so now
Speaker 1: I'm now I'm spooky because one time I did a
Speaker 1: Satanic ritual.
Speaker 2: Your favorite movie will tell us if you're gothing that
Speaker 2: what's your favorite movie?
Speaker 1: My favorite movie, honestly, it's probably Boogie Nights, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. I love I love the first hour of
Speaker 1: show Girls. But you do like the Craft though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like the Craft, and you watch Wicked. I still
Speaker 1: have not seen Wicked.
Speaker 2: You're the one one member of the queer community and
Speaker 2: I who haven't seen Wicked yet.
Speaker 3: And we've been looking for this person NonStop and I
Speaker 3: can't believe I have actually found them.
Speaker 2: This is crazy.
Speaker 1: This sounds like a witch hunt.
Speaker 2: You should just be a witch. You have all the aesthetic.
Speaker 2: Just be a witch already.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think witchcraft is interesting. I've dabbled, for sure,
Speaker 1: But I'm not spooky, and I don't think witchcraft is
Speaker 1: necessarily spooky. I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: most of it is like pretty. It's pretty. It's like candles,
Speaker 1: it's oils, it's you burn things, it smells nice. It's
Speaker 1: not necessarily like around a cauldron lit. I mean it
Speaker 1: could be.
Speaker 2: I don't know, have you ever had a spell put
Speaker 2: on you before?
Speaker 1: I hope not. Let's not encourage that. But you know,
Speaker 1: Jinx is a huge witch and she's not spooky either.
Speaker 2: She's advertised a huge.
Speaker 1: Bob I got I guess is a big fat witch.
Speaker 1: I got another thing for you, you some ghost voices.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's time for EVP or ev Please have
Speaker 1: you ever heard the term EVP?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Okay, I guess electron Let me guess electronic voice projections not.
Speaker 1: Bad, electronic voice phenomenal?
Speaker 2: Got it? God? Okay?
Speaker 1: So this is basically any time a voice is captured
Speaker 1: that is not connected to a human body and then
Speaker 1: people go, it's a ghost.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So it could be, you know, just somebody filming on
Speaker 1: their camera on their on a recordings advice. And there's
Speaker 1: thousands of these on YouTube, and I have two of
Speaker 1: them for you. I'm going to play you the EVP
Speaker 1: and I want you to tell me what you hear,
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to give you an abc D
Speaker 1: one of you know, one of them is the correct
Speaker 1: answer of what they believe the ghost is saying.
Speaker 2: Got it?
Speaker 1: Okay? So this first one was posted by after Dark
Speaker 1: Club Paranormal Adventures. The location unknown. What is this ghost saying?
Speaker 2: Play again?
Speaker 1: First of all, I don't know if their smoke detector
Speaker 1: is going off.
Speaker 3: I thought this ghost is saying harder. I think this
Speaker 3: is a bottom ghost who's not getting what they need.
Speaker 3: And this goes to saying harder.
Speaker 1: It is kind of like sexy. It's like a harder
Speaker 1: That's not what after Dark Club Paranormal Adventures thought. Did
Speaker 1: they think it was a but.
Speaker 2: Okay? Which goes with what I said?
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a Lydia butthole? Collins Fan ghosts, got it?
Speaker 1: Is it b what home?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: See I want more?
Speaker 2: Two of those go with what I said?
Speaker 1: Or is it d.
Speaker 3: Go off?
Speaker 1: Girl?
Speaker 3: You know I'm gonna say, if it's a ghost, it's
Speaker 3: probably saying go home. But I do want to say
Speaker 3: that two of those were perfectly in line with what
Speaker 3: I said.
Speaker 1: They actually believe it's a butthole.
Speaker 2: The ghost said butthole.
Speaker 1: Okay, now that we know that, let's listen.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with go home.
Speaker 3: They believe this is this something naked ear could hear
Speaker 3: or is thisthing you need like a ghost of ice.
Speaker 2: To hear your ear.
Speaker 1: Don't have to be naked, you could just hear like
Speaker 1: any This was captured. It was a recording that they
Speaker 1: listened back to got it and the man filming this
Speaker 1: is like you guys, the ghost said, butthole, he says
Speaker 1: in the video. He's like, my kids are gonna love
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 2: You hear what you want to hear, all right, butthole.
Speaker 1: Here's the next one. This one is from Miss Luna
Speaker 1: Winter and it's in her home. What is this ghost saying? Okay,
Speaker 1: this one's a different sounding one.
Speaker 2: It's chatty.
Speaker 1: It's chatty for sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see what are options.
Speaker 1: A Bob and money? Those two slay ridiculous. B Obviously,
Speaker 1: it's a game this life. See Bob is my name
Speaker 1: across the gate right over there? Okay, d the ride
Speaker 1: is broken because the gays broke it, all.
Speaker 2: Right, played it again so I can decide. Bob is
Speaker 2: my name across the gate over there?
Speaker 1: That is exactly what they thought it said. Wait, let's
Speaker 1: hear it again.
Speaker 3: Well, that just seems the fact that this sounds like
Speaker 3: a service position. And if I died, I'm not still
Speaker 3: doing my job. If I died, I'm not gonna be like, hey,
Speaker 3: buy my name. Please feel free to cross the gate
Speaker 3: over there, and we're gonna send you an email about
Speaker 3: our just let us know how you feel about our
Speaker 3: experience today. I'm not continuing the work if I'm not
Speaker 3: getting paid anymore?
Speaker 1: Well what about see? I also wonder if sort of
Speaker 1: like in retirement, when you like start a new career
Speaker 1: or like a new job for fun, you get a
Speaker 1: job at the store or whatever, is that like do
Speaker 1: you think that that predictor angel ghost like do you
Speaker 1: think that that's sort of like it was like a
Speaker 1: hot guy that died and then he was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well what am I gonna do?
Speaker 2: Just be dead? No?
Speaker 1: I want to like, what what kind of roles do
Speaker 1: we have? Can I interview for the job as like
Speaker 1: I want to beat the dead grandma ceiling messenger?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to be the one who does with
Speaker 3: their Grandma's gonna die. I would not want I would
Speaker 3: not want that job. I wouldn't want to get bad news.
Speaker 2: I want to be like, what is he gonna do?
Speaker 2: Promotions coming their way? Promotion is coming your way.
Speaker 1: I love how he just sort of like went back
Speaker 1: into the ceiling.
Speaker 2: And was have fun with that at first beat last.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, I need to hear this this EVP again.
Speaker 1: I think it says Bob is my name and the
Speaker 1: gays love me.
Speaker 2: I think that these ghosts need to go to speech therapy. Like,
Speaker 2: why do all the ghosts mumble?
Speaker 1: Well, how about when you die and you're a ghost,
Speaker 1: Let's see how easy it is. I have a feeling
Speaker 1: you're going to figure out how to talk.
Speaker 2: I'll be like hi.
Speaker 3: Everyone, There'll be no question, but hi, everyone is good
Speaker 3: to see you all. I'll be still hosting a podcast
Speaker 3: from the afterlot.
Speaker 1: Okay, last thing, rapid fire. What do you think of Bigfoot?
Speaker 3: I think Bigfoot was probably honestly, you want to hear
Speaker 3: my honest truth please? Finally, I think Bigfoot is probably
Speaker 3: an unhoused person covered in like stuff to stay warm
Speaker 3: and walking through the woods.
Speaker 2: I really do.
Speaker 1: But they and they were fine being there, like they
Speaker 1: I mean want to be left alone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's walk through the woods covered like trying to
Speaker 3: keep themselves warm. If someone took a picture of them
Speaker 3: without their consent and it's like it's it's a Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: Do you know they're trying to make Bigfoot the official
Speaker 1: state of California? Cryptid really, Yeah, there's been a petition
Speaker 1: for that, and what is it?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 1: We don't have one. There's not such a thing because
Speaker 1: there's real issues in this world right now that need
Speaker 1: to be addressed. But what do you think about psychics?
Speaker 1: You've never been to one.
Speaker 3: I've been doing psychic Yeah, but I mean it was
Speaker 3: like one time, Oh, tell me about it. I got
Speaker 3: nothing out of it, really nothing.
Speaker 1: Where what was the situation? Was this like a fancy
Speaker 1: one or.
Speaker 3: Was it was a psychic that was used to be
Speaker 3: next to the bar hardware in New York City? And
Speaker 3: I just stopped in because she was always there open
Speaker 3: when the when the bars were clearing out, and I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm gonna go to the the to the
Speaker 3: palm reader slash psychic.
Speaker 1: And she just had nothing to give you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. She was like, there's gonna be a guy. There's
Speaker 2: always a guy, honeyway, that's that's the easy prediction with me.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a guy. Okay, sure right, Nar wrote
Speaker 2: down Mary. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I know the guy never came, by the way, why
Speaker 1: didn't he come?
Speaker 2: Now, some guys, some guys did come, but the guy
Speaker 2: she described did not. What do you think?
Speaker 1: Uh oe gee boards, I've.
Speaker 3: Never used one. I'm open to it. Although, if I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be honest, they scare me a little bit, really, weed,
Speaker 3: you boys do scare me a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you ever go ghost hunting?
Speaker 2: Is it gonna be cold?
Speaker 1: Possibly?
Speaker 2: No, would you ever go with me again? Is it
Speaker 2: gonna be cold?
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like you're gonna be.
Speaker 3: If we can go somewhere warm, I'm gonna be I'd
Speaker 3: probably interested. But if if I have to wear a coat,
Speaker 3: if I have to be cold, I would probably not
Speaker 3: want to do it.
Speaker 1: To be honest, Oh really, I will take that any
Speaker 1: day ever being hot. Have you seen my faux for
Speaker 1: a collection?
Speaker 3: I would rather be over ninety degrees, oh my god,
Speaker 3: than under forty degrees.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's what's so nice is if these ghosts
Speaker 1: really are cold and really do exist, they should be
Speaker 1: able to take care of that for us and cool
Speaker 1: it off. If it's ninety degrees, I prefer it because
Speaker 1: I don't want no swamp ass. But you want to
Speaker 1: be cold, I would always rather be cold and bundled.
Speaker 1: You know I'm a sweater queen. You know I'm a
Speaker 1: faux for queen.
Speaker 2: Well, when it out, it was fall, so I assumed
Speaker 2: that you were just dressing appropriately with the weather.
Speaker 1: No, I'm like that in the summer.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. I love it.
Speaker 1: Never I don't even own any you have some story dresses. Yes,
Speaker 1: when I'm on stage, it's very different.
Speaker 2: I have great legs. Oh we are you covering them up?
Speaker 2: You know what? Because it's your body can do everyone
Speaker 2: with Yeah.
Speaker 1: I can do exactly whatever I want to do with
Speaker 1: my transgender body.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I believe women.
Speaker 1: I believe you and your stories that you have shared
Speaker 1: with us today. I would say most people won't.
Speaker 2: But I do you think I'm lying?
Speaker 1: No note at all. No, And I'm telling you this
Speaker 1: the stuff we talk about on this podcast, it gets outragelus.
Speaker 1: Nobody's going to call you a lot. Hey, Bob, tell
Speaker 1: people where to find you. Oh my god, tell them
Speaker 1: about your book. You know, we got some history buffs here.
Speaker 3: I wrote a book called Harrod Tubman Live in Concert
Speaker 3: as a historical fiction piece about Herotubman coming back to
Speaker 3: life and writing a hip hop album. It takes place
Speaker 3: right now in current day. You can get a copy
Speaker 3: of it at readth drag Queen dot com. If you
Speaker 3: want to sign copy, you can go to Bob signed
Speaker 3: book dot com. And the audiobook has two original songs
Speaker 3: in it that I'm really proud of.
Speaker 1: Who recorded the songs?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 1: Is it your voice?
Speaker 2: It's my voice. My voice is the audiobook. The songs
Speaker 2: are also me.
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my god, that's so fun. Bob.
Speaker 2: Congratulations the singers and voices, there's singers whose voices are
Speaker 2: on there as well, but I'm the one. I'm the
Speaker 2: main star.
Speaker 1: Congratulations, Bob, thank you Oz, thank you Major and your podcast.
Speaker 1: And you're you know, you're always doing stuff.
Speaker 2: So you have the speech impediment that makes everything you
Speaker 2: say sound sarcastic.
Speaker 1: No, I do, Wait, how do you sound now I'm
Speaker 1: trying to sound sarcastic. Oh, yeah, I do.
Speaker 3: There's this thing on Kids in the Hall back the
Speaker 3: minute where he goes, sorry, I have this speech epedimid.
Speaker 3: Everything I say sounds sarcastic, so it goes really He
Speaker 3: goes yeah really.
Speaker 2: And I think you have that.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, I've been accused of that before.
Speaker 2: So would you like to give me a genuine compliment
Speaker 2: before we end the podcast?
Speaker 1: Yes, Bob, I think that you are genuinely one of
Speaker 1: the most.
Speaker 2: You're you are fighting demons to give me this compliment.
Speaker 1: I think that you are one of the most. I
Speaker 1: feel like I have to finish this sentence. Dynamic performers
Speaker 1: that I have ever had the pleasure of witnessing in person.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take I'm gonna find the compliment in there.
Speaker 1: Is that not a compliment? You were a dynamic performer.
Speaker 2: Dynamic dynamic I mean one week you're really good, at
Speaker 2: one week really bad.
Speaker 1: Is that what that means?
Speaker 3: Dynamic like dynamics like when things are like quite uh disparate, Right,
Speaker 3: the dynamics of this are up and down, left and right.
Speaker 3: But it also could mean like you seeing you dance,
Speaker 3: you act, you're powerful. Dynamic has a lot of difference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm talking about like you can write a book. Oh,
Speaker 1: you can record music, you can be on multiple reality
Speaker 1: TV shows, and you could do stand up.
Speaker 3: I'm going to accept all those compliments. Thank you, Thank you, Ross,
Speaker 3: And can I give you a company?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I should think so.
Speaker 2: Ross.
Speaker 3: I think you are effortlessly funny. You have such an
Speaker 3: infectious personality, and when you're around, despite your best efforts,
Speaker 3: you're very, very charming. Even though you try to act
Speaker 3: like you're not sweet and lovey w you're actually really
Speaker 3: sweet and kind.
Speaker 1: Oh Bob, I'm so sad that I don't see you more.
Speaker 2: Well, you literally are you cold? You're going to pass
Speaker 2: my studio on the way home.
Speaker 1: You are literally one of the craziest thing listeners. Bob
Speaker 1: is less than one mile away from us right now,
Speaker 1: and he refused, that's not true. I'd be in the
Speaker 1: same building as me.
Speaker 2: I offered to come. Ros said, I look like shit today,
Speaker 2: but will you stop by my studio the way on
Speaker 2: the way home? Please? Fine?
Speaker 1: I will, all right, bye, but my name is Bob.
Speaker 2: Please stay clear the closing doors.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Bob. Go buy her book,
Speaker 1: ah Lover. I will be making Bob come back on
Speaker 1: the show because she is somebody that can make anything entertaining,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure we could have a lot of fun
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, a famous documented case or something
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