WEBVTT - Bob The Drag Queen Met a Psychic Ghost

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<v Speaker 1>What's that at the bed spooky? Hey juky, I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I loss nandas Plase. Hey boo, it's me

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<v Speaker 1>Ross and welcome to Ghosted by us Hernandez, the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, one of my dear friends, Bob the

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<v Speaker 1>drag Queen, is on the pod today, who, of course

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<v Speaker 1>you know from winning RuPaul's Drag Race, the TV show

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<v Speaker 1>We're Here Traders. And she's got a new book coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>Very excit for Bob. And how's a good story she's got.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got a good one. You're gonna enjoy this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I think. Of course, I wanted to tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going on tour doing stand up in primarily gay bars,

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<v Speaker 1>all over America. I'm coming near where you live, most likely,

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<v Speaker 1>so go to Rozhernandez tour dot com. I've got dates

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<v Speaker 1>in May. I even have Oh my gosh, I added

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<v Speaker 1>Portland in June. I'm sure I've added more, all of July,

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<v Speaker 1>all of August. I'm all over the place, so come

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<v Speaker 1>see me. I won't be talking about ghosts a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'll be you know, talking about things. We'll be laughing,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be having fun. Let's hear a ghost story. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>a ghost story from a listener named Will. Sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a long one, but you know it's a good one,

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<v Speaker 1>so stay with me. Well, writes Hey, raz. I love

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<v Speaker 1>the show and it's a weekly highlight for me. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought i'd write in to share some of the haunted

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<v Speaker 1>encounters me and my family have experienced in our family

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<v Speaker 1>home over the years. I grew up in a cottage

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<v Speaker 1>in a village in the northwest of England, near the

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<v Speaker 1>town of Blackpool. The cottage was built in seventeen eighty

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<v Speaker 1>nine and members of my family have lived in it

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<v Speaker 1>for roughly one hundred and fifty years. The first spirit

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<v Speaker 1>that I was aware of was one seen separately by

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<v Speaker 1>my mom and my gran my dad's mom. They both

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<v Speaker 1>saw the same spirit, and it happened that each of

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<v Speaker 1>them saw it the day before their weddings to my

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<v Speaker 1>dad and granddad. They had never told another person about

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<v Speaker 1>it until years later, and they were shocked. I realized

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<v Speaker 1>they had seen the same thing. As my mom describes it,

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<v Speaker 1>she'd been getting stuff ready for the wedding and had

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<v Speaker 1>visited the house at the time my grandparents home and

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<v Speaker 1>had walked into the living room. Sat in the corner

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<v Speaker 1>of the room was an elderly woman who she'd never

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<v Speaker 1>seen before. She went to say hello, thinking it was

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<v Speaker 1>a family friend or a relative she had yet to meet,

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<v Speaker 1>when she realized the old woman was, as she described it,

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<v Speaker 1>hazy and a little sea through. My mom said she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't feel afraid, and that it was a calm, warm presence.

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<v Speaker 1>She said the old lady smiled at her and then

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<v Speaker 1>slowly faded away. My grand said she had almost an

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<v Speaker 1>identical experience, except the lady was stood by the window

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<v Speaker 1>and not sitting. Both my mom and gran had been

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<v Speaker 1>marrying into our family, so they had always wondered if

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<v Speaker 1>the spirit was a family member who had previously lived

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<v Speaker 1>in the home and this was her way of welcoming

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<v Speaker 1>them into the family. Okay, now this is juicey. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to finish this one up because it's listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Will Will really gave it to us with the typing

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<v Speaker 1>out of the story, and I'm fascinated anytime I hear

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<v Speaker 1>of a family that lived in the same house for

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty years. So we're gonna get We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hear about the other spirit in this house next week,

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<v Speaker 1>so tune in for that, thank you will. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>it on over to my conversation with Bob the Drag Queen.

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<v Speaker 1>On with this show, Bob the Drag Queen. Everybody, Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Mary, how you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Is Mary right? It's ro.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it. But I'm a big fan of Hamburger Mary's.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have you worked at Hamburger Mary's?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Oh my god, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been trying to get Roz to get back into drag,

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<v Speaker 3>but she just kind of won't do it. But she

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<v Speaker 3>also low Ki wants to be a miscontinental, but she's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like afraid to do it. No, what you do?

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<v Speaker 3>You want to be a miscontinental more than you want

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<v Speaker 3>your next breath?

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<v Speaker 2>Just say it.

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<v Speaker 1>I could never compete with Miss Continental now. That attitude, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>those girls are so flawless. I like being a little

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<v Speaker 1>rough around the edges. I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well you could, you could, you could pretend to be

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<v Speaker 3>one of the you know, I'm super you know, quafted

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<v Speaker 3>pristine girls for an evening to snatch a crown. I

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<v Speaker 3>think you could do for this podcast Has a Ghost

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<v Speaker 3>Has a Ghost Hunter?

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<v Speaker 2>Ever? Won Miscontinental? You need to do it for the ghost.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. Yeah, maybe maybe that'll be my talent and

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<v Speaker 1>the Miscontinental pageant. I will go on stage.

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<v Speaker 2>The ghost of former miscontinentals.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see if I can conjure up the ghost that

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<v Speaker 1>famously called me slurs, and we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you ever find the name of the ghost?

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<v Speaker 1>Bob?

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<v Speaker 2>It was you?

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<v Speaker 3>That was That was just me walking by your bunk

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<v Speaker 3>on the on the bus, just whispering, faggot.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Bob and I did well. We weirdly

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<v Speaker 1>did two things right back to back, because you're kind

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<v Speaker 1>enough to let me open for you on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Road and you're kind enough to accept.

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<v Speaker 1>And we then we randomly went on a cruise together

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<v Speaker 1>that we both happened to be performing on and we

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<v Speaker 1>when we were on the tour, we went to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>every time I perform in a big theater, I ask

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<v Speaker 1>if it's haunted, and they were pretty much all haunted.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all theaters are haunted. That's what they say.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they said.

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<v Speaker 3>But people aren't dying in the theaters, are they? As

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<v Speaker 3>do ghosts just love live theater.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, when I'm most like.

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<v Speaker 3>Are ghosts, Like, no, I actually died at a said go

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<v Speaker 3>around the corner. But I just love life theater.

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<v Speaker 1>When i'm there, people, someone's dying on stage.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know there were ghosts, but well you went.

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<v Speaker 2>They kept hearing boo, wow that was just me from

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<v Speaker 2>the wings though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, no. People, there's every single old theater somebody died.

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<v Speaker 1>They were reckless back in those days, back in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the late eighteen hundred's turn of the century. These

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<v Speaker 1>people were out there just dropping shit on people's heads

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<v Speaker 1>by accident.

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<v Speaker 2>Every production with Spider Man turn Off the Dark.

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<v Speaker 1>It literally was. But like they're special effects. I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>so many stories of these old theaters where it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they had fire on stage and the fire knocked over

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<v Speaker 1>and then everyone burned down.

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<v Speaker 2>How'd you go about dying on stage?

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<v Speaker 1>I have?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we basically the same age? I'm a little older

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<v Speaker 2>than you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're older than me a little not much. No, you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're quite older than me.

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<v Speaker 3>I can google your age. You're famous enough for me

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to google your age.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well you can google my net worth too, And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't recommend you take either of those.

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<v Speaker 3>This truth Roserlandez. It says that you were. It says

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<v Speaker 3>you'r the comedian and semi retired drag queen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a semi retired, Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Semi retired drag performer shares the spooky origins of her

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<v Speaker 3>parent normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast semi sized drag queen.

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<v Speaker 2>Your age is actually hard to find than I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it would be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not famous, That's why, Bob. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a queak out winner. Yet you look like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Did a Mitel in this picture they have of you

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<v Speaker 2>on IMDb. Bob, let it go, you do. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>the first one I tell you like I did a Mizelle.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the first person to ever say out loud that

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<v Speaker 3>you kind of look like I did a Mistel. There's

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<v Speaker 3>no way.

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<v Speaker 1>I usually here, Leah Michelle, I hear.

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<v Speaker 2>But they look alike though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess so, Bob, listen, we are here to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about ghosts. That's the reason that I invited you here.

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<v Speaker 3>So the last thing here are biographies are us. It

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<v Speaker 3>says you are twenty eight to thirty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Old work, so it is right, So it is accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty eight to thirty is, so.

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<v Speaker 1>It's accurate.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm obsessed, but that is no way that's true. But

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<v Speaker 3>I am obsessed with twenty eight to thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, say how much money I have?

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<v Speaker 2>I can google that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do rouse Hernada's networks, because talk about this is paranormal.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, your net worth is three million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's less than the real number?

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<v Speaker 2>Ganggang, Can I borrow some money please?

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<v Speaker 1>Now? Not true, But what is true always is people's

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<v Speaker 1>claims of the paranormal, every single time, every single time.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you at on any of that stuff? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you believe in this sort of a thing, that there's

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<v Speaker 1>more than meets the eye?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I have had paranormal occurrences in my life and

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<v Speaker 2>I still don't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm the same way. I think it's a me problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, I'm just being dramatic, but I have.

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<v Speaker 3>Had paranormal things happen, but I still don't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's kind of crazy, right, are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Like everything not everything happens for a reason, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, oh no, not at all. Whatever the opposite of

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<v Speaker 3>that is, I think things just happen. There's no rhyme

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<v Speaker 3>or reason, like, truly, we can't justify everything that happen,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I feel like it makes sense to want to

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<v Speaker 3>justify white things happening to you, and that makes total

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<v Speaker 3>sense to me. But sometimes it feels better for me

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<v Speaker 3>to know that things just happen and it was just

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<v Speaker 3>shitting and there was no rhyme or reason. That feels

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<v Speaker 3>better than trying to justify why something bad happened to me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of want my pain to be like some lesson

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<v Speaker 3>for someone I don't even fucking know, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that that's where all of that can get difficult,

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<v Speaker 1>because then you go, Okay, why did this?

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<v Speaker 2>Why get cancer for no reason exactly that the other

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<v Speaker 2>kids can see how great life is. Well, fuck those

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<v Speaker 2>other kids. I don't want.

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<v Speaker 1>Cancer exactly exactly, So I get that for sure. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you does that have anything to do with like coincidences?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do you think that there's any truth to

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<v Speaker 1>a coincidence or your scum now it's just something happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's talk about probably one of the biggest coincidences, right,

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that the Okay, so, the size of the

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<v Speaker 3>Earth in relation to the Moon, and the distance from

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<v Speaker 3>the Earth and the distance to the Moon is the

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<v Speaker 3>same as the size of the Earth in relation to

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<v Speaker 3>the Sun and the distance in the two, which is

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<v Speaker 3>why this is the only planet in the world that

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<v Speaker 3>has a solar eclipse where you get the diamond ring effects. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 3>because the Sun and the do you get what I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying here, Bob Degrass Tyson, there's.

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<v Speaker 3>No other planet where the Moon goes between the Earth

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<v Speaker 3>and that planet and the Sun and they're the exact

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<v Speaker 3>same size. Either the Moon is way too big and

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<v Speaker 3>it'll block out the Sun completely, or the Moon is

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<v Speaker 3>way too small and you'll just see the Sun around

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<v Speaker 3>it completely. It'll just be like one little bike spot

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<v Speaker 3>in the middle of the sun, or the Sun is

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<v Speaker 3>so powerful that it will just envelop and you won't

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<v Speaker 3>even tell that it's there. I believe that's just a

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<v Speaker 3>random ass coincidence.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't keep up with that necessarily. But are there

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<v Speaker 1>things that you think are coincidences or I just described

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<v Speaker 1>a coincidence to you that are there things that you go,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, that that really means something or is

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<v Speaker 1>that just does that go back to what you were

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<v Speaker 1>saying originally about not?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is just it is just because the world

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<v Speaker 3>is so randomized that some of the things just have

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<v Speaker 3>to be remarkable. Have you ever done a thing where

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<v Speaker 3>like you reach into a bunch of eminem's or you

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<v Speaker 3>reach into like something where there's a bunch of something

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<v Speaker 3>and you pull out the exact amount you need. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just a coincidence, because there's so many times

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<v Speaker 3>where you pulled out and it was not the amount

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<v Speaker 3>you needed. There have been so many times you pulled

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<v Speaker 3>out way more or way less. But statistically speaking, when

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<v Speaker 3>you caught this one time out of you know, whatever

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<v Speaker 3>the odds are, it seems remarkable because it is more

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<v Speaker 3>remarkable than pulling out one too many or five too little.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes when you pull out, you just do it right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have a lot of experience with that. No'm kidding,

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<v Speaker 3>ill out a lot. Uh yeah sometimes yeah, well okay, but.

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<v Speaker 1>What about this, Like, you know, what I've been thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about lately is the concept of like why we are

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<v Speaker 1>happening now? Like there's certain people where you go, God,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were today and not in the eighties, you

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<v Speaker 1>would be the biggest star in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think about the fact that if I was

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<v Speaker 3>born one hundred years ago, y'all would have never heard

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<v Speaker 3>of me, because I would be so oppressed that you

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<v Speaker 3>probably would never even heard of me if I was

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<v Speaker 3>born tw hundred years ago. Jesus Christ, I'm so happy

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<v Speaker 3>and lucky to be alive when I am. Now, there's

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<v Speaker 3>probably someone who was born in eighteen oh four who

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<v Speaker 3>would have been probably the best fucking drag queen this

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<v Speaker 3>world's ever fucking seen, Funnier than any of us, more

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<v Speaker 3>talented than any of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Jackie b Us, she is still alive, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>none of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the you know what she says in Gypsy. I

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<v Speaker 3>was born too soon, I started too late. Some people

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<v Speaker 3>just had that happen to.

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<v Speaker 1>Them, you know, Okay, Like, how about this to make

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<v Speaker 1>it about you, you were when you were on drag Grace,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the fact that you were on when you were

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<v Speaker 1>on doesn't that almost feel like something special? Like do

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<v Speaker 1>you ever think about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I feel lucky that I had, Like I moved

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<v Speaker 3>to New York City and drag Race started the year

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<v Speaker 3>I moved to New York City. I feel really lucky

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<v Speaker 3>that that happened to me because I could have. But

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<v Speaker 3>also all the talents queens who moved to New York

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<v Speaker 3>City and were moved there in the seventies or eighties,

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<v Speaker 3>and their drag performers, they could have been the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>star drag race has ever seen. But they did the

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<v Speaker 3>New City night life seeing for their ten years. They

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<v Speaker 3>did their time, They got their bachelor's degree in nightlife,

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<v Speaker 3>and now their accountants or lawyers, or teachers or or

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<v Speaker 3>waiters or whatever they are.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, right, tell me a ghost story.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's a ghost story, but when, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>is this a ghost story?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't listen. I have a gavel right here and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to go.

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<v Speaker 3>So I would call it a paranormal activity more than

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<v Speaker 3>a ghost story.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows what I was seeing.

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<v Speaker 3>This could have been a polter guyst This could have

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<v Speaker 3>been a ghost, This could have been a demon, This

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<v Speaker 3>could have been an.

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<v Speaker 1>If anybody has authority, it's me.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna find out.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's anyone in this world that could tell you

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<v Speaker 1>these unexplainable things, it's me.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I was eight years old, I was living

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<v Speaker 3>in Columbus, Georgia, and my mom and my brother were

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<v Speaker 3>up doing laundry, and when I was in my bed,

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<v Speaker 3>this circle, like this pool of light came from the ceil.

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<v Speaker 3>It was formed on the ceiling of my first floor apartment,

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<v Speaker 3>in my bedroom. And then his feet came down through

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<v Speaker 3>this pool of light. No, yeah, there's something I saw.

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<v Speaker 3>Did it happen?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Did I see it? Yes, it was a white man's feet.

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<v Speaker 3>He came to He was a blonde white man, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>And he looked at me, and he was wearing a

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<v Speaker 3>very angelic type clothes. He looked like an angel. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't remember if he had wings or not, but I

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<v Speaker 3>remember that he looked like an angel, the depiction that

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<v Speaker 3>we see on the television. And he said, don't go

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<v Speaker 3>to Mississippi this summer. Your grandma's gonna die. And then

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<v Speaker 3>he shot back into this and at this time, I

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't scream. I couldn't I could not move.

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<v Speaker 2>It.

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<v Speaker 3>It was I think I was experiencing sleep paralysis. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>almost positive I was experiencing sleep paralysis. And I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I tried to scream, but I could not scream. I

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't even move. And then he went back into the

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<v Speaker 3>ceiling and then I was able to scream, and I

0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.440
<v Speaker 3>screamed at the top of my lungs, and my mom

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<v Speaker 3>came running down from the laundromat and I was crying hysterically,

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<v Speaker 3>and I kept saying, we cannot go to Misisippi this summer.

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<v Speaker 3>Grandma's gonna die. We cannot go. Grandma's gonna die, She's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna die, We can't go. And my grandma died that

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<v Speaker 3>summer and I went to Mississippi. My mom was like,

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<v Speaker 3>don't be ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>I said no. An angel came down.

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<v Speaker 3>He told me that we can't go to missip this summer,

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<v Speaker 3>or if we do, Grandma Liz is gonna die. And

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<v Speaker 3>we did go that summer, and she did pass away

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<v Speaker 3>the summer of nineteen ninety four.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a true story.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason why I think it was sleep paralysis and

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<v Speaker 3>me experiencing an hallucination is because the angel looked just

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<v Speaker 3>like the angel looked in my Bible vhs is that

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<v Speaker 3>I had. I mean he looked, I mean he looked

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<v Speaker 3>obviously was it was a blond, white man. He looked

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<v Speaker 3>exactly how he looked in those VHS's but they were cartoons.

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<v Speaker 2>But he looked like the real life version of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well maybe it was him. Listen, you can't just make

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<v Speaker 1>a living doing Bible VHS's maybe it's a side hustle

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<v Speaker 1>he had.

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<v Speaker 2>You never know. And also.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a kid who used to I think, on

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<v Speaker 3>three or four different occasions I correctly guessed lottery numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>Too, what, Bob, you are a psychic?

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<v Speaker 3>Like on three or four occasions, I remember telling my

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<v Speaker 3>mom money, you gotta play it was it was a

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<v Speaker 3>three the three ball. Oh, you got to play these numbers,

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<v Speaker 3>and she never ever played them. And then when she

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<v Speaker 3>finally started listening to me, it was too late and

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<v Speaker 3>I had lost the gift.

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<v Speaker 1>See there, you'll hear from some psychics that will be like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even necessarily that they have these supernatural powers.

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<v Speaker 1>They just have some ghosts that keeps coming to them

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<v Speaker 1>and telling them the answers. And that's like they're just

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<v Speaker 1>relaying the message from the whoever, the ghosts, the angel whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you go see the future of these ghost

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<v Speaker 2>telling about the past.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know who knows that one whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>encountered clearly saw the future. But what that is like,

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<v Speaker 1>my mind is blown. This is a good one, Bob.

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<v Speaker 3>And what makes it really interesting that my grandmother was

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<v Speaker 3>not old. My grandmother passed away fifty four years old.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was it was heart attack, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>or gang violence. I'll let you decide. And okay, it

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<v Speaker 3>was a heart attack. My grandma was a crip and

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<v Speaker 3>the bloods were sick of it. No, it was my

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<v Speaker 3>grandma had a heart attack at fifty four and passed away.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow whah, And it was out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 3>If there were there were no signs, it's been signed.

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<v Speaker 3>She probably had like you know, high cholesterol or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But let me ask this, if you didn't go, she

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<v Speaker 1>would have lived.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the ghost.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe the angel didn't. Angel did not say if you go,

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<v Speaker 3>He said, don't go. Your grandmother will die.

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<v Speaker 2>So she could have died anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe she was gonna die. You just don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be around it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I actually wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 3>My brother was there when she started having a heart

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<v Speaker 3>attack and she passed away to the hospital. My brother

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<v Speaker 3>is the one who actually went and got her boyfriend

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<v Speaker 3>and was like, something's wrong with grandma.

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<v Speaker 2>Something's wrong with with grandma.

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<v Speaker 3>Grandma lives and then my brother was whisked away and

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<v Speaker 3>I was at my cousin's house, Mount Lisa's house, and

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<v Speaker 3>we were uh, so they just kind of put us

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<v Speaker 3>upstairs and they told us to play video and we

0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:44.359
<v Speaker 3>play video games. And then I remember them coming in

0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:45.920
<v Speaker 3>and being like, your grandmother passed away.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so crazy, and so nothing like this has

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<v Speaker 1>ever happened to you.

0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Again.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when I was like twenty or nineteen years old,

0:20:56.680 --> 0:21:01.000
<v Speaker 3>I was staying in a like a it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 3>military base, but this this, this uh home I was in,

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<v Speaker 3>or this like hotel or whatever it was I was in,

0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:10.680
<v Speaker 3>used to be a military base because I was working

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<v Speaker 3>in children's theater and I went to this uh like

0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:15.000
<v Speaker 3>military summer camp to teach these kids how to do

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<v Speaker 3>like sleeping beauty.

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<v Speaker 2>Or rumple still skin one of those who shows.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was lying in bed and it was another

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<v Speaker 3>battle sleep proalyssis.

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<v Speaker 2>I was lying in bed. And have you ever had

0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:25.440
<v Speaker 2>sleep proalysis before?

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<v Speaker 1>Never? Not once?

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<v Speaker 2>I have it constantly.

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<v Speaker 1>You sleep on your back, huh?

0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:31.320
<v Speaker 2>I should?

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<v Speaker 3>I try to, but sometimes it happens on my side too.

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually scarier when it happens on your side than

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<v Speaker 3>it is when you're on your back because when you're

0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:39.200
<v Speaker 3>in your side, you can't see anything. You can only

0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:40.679
<v Speaker 3>see like the wall behind you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I was lying in bed on my back

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<v Speaker 2>this time, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Always, Yeah, that's a lot of the stories you tell.

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<v Speaker 3>And the room got really really cold, if I remember correctly,

0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:57.840
<v Speaker 3>And it was the summertime, so it was very odd

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<v Speaker 3>that was so cold.

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<v Speaker 1>And so nice.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was one of those It was like a

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<v Speaker 3>like a railroad style, like I could see from the

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<v Speaker 3>bedroom into the little foyer into this other living room

0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:14.879
<v Speaker 3>eras all one big and these windows opened up, and

0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:19.280
<v Speaker 3>this woman in this like long, flowy white dress. She

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<v Speaker 3>kind of looked like the grug the girl from a Grudge,

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<v Speaker 3>but a little more glamorous. And she was like just

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:28.200
<v Speaker 3>slowly like floating toward me, and I could not move.

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<v Speaker 3>Sleep paralysis is terrifying. Like when you have sleep paralysis,

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<v Speaker 3>you have this immense sense of fear. You feel so afraid.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels like something's coming to get you. It's scary

0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:40.440
<v Speaker 3>when you're on your side because you can only see

0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:42.280
<v Speaker 3>the wall or the pillow or whatever you're looking at.

0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:45.040
<v Speaker 3>You can't even move a finger, and this thing just

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<v Speaker 3>kept getting closer and closer to me, and she just

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<v Speaker 3>like hovered at the foot of my bed for what

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<v Speaker 3>felt like an eternity, and then it all just started

0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:56.399
<v Speaker 3>vanishing and fading away, and then I was able to

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<v Speaker 3>like finally wake up, wake up. So I think it

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<v Speaker 3>might have been a bad dream that was me.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I see it as you sure.

0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's the thing with sleep paralysis. It's one

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:13.239
<v Speaker 1>of one of these things where you can explain it

0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:19.040
<v Speaker 1>away by science. So this happens when whatever. But I

0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:22.119
<v Speaker 1>think it could be also paranormal at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think that that could be a ghost.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know that there was There's like stories of

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<v Speaker 2>people who.

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<v Speaker 3>They went to a coma and then they they were

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<v Speaker 3>in the coma for like a week or a month

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<v Speaker 3>or something, and then when they came to they were like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, where's my family? Like in the coma

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:49.399
<v Speaker 3>they lived an entire life, like died at eighty. So

0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:52.160
<v Speaker 3>the mind is obviously incredibly powerful, right, So that's why

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<v Speaker 3>I think that some people who have who have come

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<v Speaker 3>close to passing away or passed way and came back.

0:23:56.320 --> 0:24:00.720
<v Speaker 3>Your mind creates a reality for you. Our time is

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<v Speaker 3>completely distorted and whatever you think you're seeing, And because

0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:06.640
<v Speaker 3>our brains are essentially made of the exact same manner

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 3>or the same material, that's why when you're all high.

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 3>You're having similar experiences and similar feelings, and you see

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 3>similar waves and.

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Lights and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Because our brains are made of the same thing, We're

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:18.680
<v Speaker 3>all having very similar experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is what we think is the religious experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I have talked. Are you saying religion isn't real?

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<v Speaker 2>I am saying that emphatically.

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<v Speaker 1>I have talked to so many millennials, and I've mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>this on the podcast probably multiple times.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you gonna Are you gonna make a judgment on

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:39.119
<v Speaker 3>my experience? If it was a ghost or if it

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 3>was a demon, you didn't make any judgment.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, a ghost.

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Not an angel, not a demon, not a poultry.

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:53.439
<v Speaker 1>Guist, not a poultr geist. Poultry geist translates to noisy ghost,

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:59.359
<v Speaker 1>and it usually is not connected to a human like being.

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:03.080
<v Speaker 1>It's usu just like someone throwing shit or somehow shit

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:08.560
<v Speaker 1>gets thrown. An angel sure feels a little religious to me,

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:12.159
<v Speaker 1>But why not? Or is that just a good ghost

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 1>or like you know, a ghost with special powers.

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:18.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm not ghost for telling the future. Because this ghost

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:19.440
<v Speaker 2>told me your grandma got another summer.

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 1>That is avarition, right, Yeah, maybe that is an angel.

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure now when you think about something. Wait,

0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:31.199
<v Speaker 1>I have a point that I was about to make though,

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 1>But but also when you think, okay, that's an angel,

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>does that make you think, well, then that maybe that

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 1>means Jesus is real or like.

0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Because I think Jesus.

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 3>I feel pretty certain that Jesus did exist and walk

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 3>the earth, and historians are pretty uh, they have a

0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:50.920
<v Speaker 3>general consensus yeah that he wasted.

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, but what about this the powers.

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Charlatan and a scam artist probably yeah?

0:25:58.119 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, So what I was gonna say is about

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<v Speaker 1>then I've talked about this before a lot of people

0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 1>give or take why I was gonna say our age,

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:09.679
<v Speaker 1>But according to the Internet, I'm not really in this category.

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 1>But saw The Ring and the Grudge at like a

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 1>preteen kind of age, teen whatever, and it really stuck

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 1>with them. And so many people will tell me sleep

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:25.640
<v Speaker 1>press the stories where it's that they see the girl

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:28.879
<v Speaker 1>with the long hair. Now was this girl? Was she

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:33.160
<v Speaker 1>out there trying to do this before those movies came out?

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Or is this just that's what we think of as

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:38.680
<v Speaker 1>the scariest fucking thing ever because it was so traumatic

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:42.439
<v Speaker 1>for us to see us at that age in like.

0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:45.679
<v Speaker 2>Two hundred years, are ghosts gonna show up wearing skinny jeans?

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 3>I feel like there was a ghost and a pair

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 3>of big, oversized baggy pants and it had a middle

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 3>part and it was really scary.

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Of course it was holding a Stanley cup. I'm so scared.

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:00.240
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>What I think about more so is like people that

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 1>are like really into extreme like body modification and stuff

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:12.160
<v Speaker 1>like sometimes you see like ooh, this man, he lives

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 1>his life as a snake or whatever. If that man's

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:18.879
<v Speaker 1>ghost came back in the middle of the night, that

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>would be very startling.

0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 2>When you come back as a ghost, how do you

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 2>want to up hear? Do you think that? Is this

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:29.160
<v Speaker 2>your peak form right now? Is it like a year ago?

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 1>You said that, Really it's with a tone. You said

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:39.159
<v Speaker 1>that with a tone. I think I would want to

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 1>come back dressed like a Dina Menzell, and I want

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>people right now so this very moment, what first of all,

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:50.920
<v Speaker 1>this look is adele deseame, which is different your hipster.

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:56.160
<v Speaker 1>This is this is adele disease, not quite a Dina Menzell.

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Silver like silver like a Dnamozelle is adultaza.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Bob, these I'm actually really impressed by your stories.

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't I can't believe it's taken seven years to

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>get you on this podcast.

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the experiences are the I had the experience.

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Did it really happen? I don't know.

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 3>I think it was of my mind. I have a

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 3>very creative mind. It just greats stuff even without my consent.

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 3>But I still don't think I saw a ghost though.

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 1>The fact that there's the prediction element to the one

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>that's crazy.

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that makes it really weird.

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 1>That's really crazy. And also why did that angel only

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>tell you that thing but not other things?

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 3>He just had a message to send me, but I

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 3>didn't listen. Well, i'd listen. My mom didn't listen.

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>But still it's like, I don't know, it's weird. It

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>seems like there could be so many other things that

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 1>could have warned you about throughout your life.

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Or he could have been he could have been like

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 3>something's gonna come. It's gonna be called bitcoin and invest early.

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 3>That would have been great.

0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, something like that. Yeah, it's very strange. But you

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>know what, that's what's fun about this. We don't know.

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>We don't know. If we did, I wouldn't have a podcast.

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 2>This is true.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Bob. One thing that's always very real and accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>We look at haunted dolls on this podcast. Can I

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 1>show you a doll that's currently for sale on eBay

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>right now?

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Shows me.

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 1>It's time for the dolls are living?

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're going to prison. You're going to prison, Bob.

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 1>We like to look at these haunted dolls. I just

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>go to eBay dot com. I type and haunted doll.

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>This one it's going for fifty five dollars.

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 2>That's not a bad price.

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Her name's Maria. Show us Maria Gieha, you got it rise?

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<v Speaker 2>So what's she haunted with?

0:29:56.720 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 1>She definitely I'm guessing she's like a paper mache doll

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>you would get in Mexico. There is a cultural element

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 1>to her.

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Can we click on one of her body please? Yeah?

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now I see yeah, yeah, that she's she seemed

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 3>to be wearing like some sort of a traditional Latin

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 3>American garment and she's it's like a big, big, flowy

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 3>skirt and it's the color of candy corn with one

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 3>random like I'm colorblind, what's that one strip at the bottom,

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 3>second the bottoms with a green So it's candy corn

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 3>with a green strip at the bottom and she's holding

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 3>the dress up as if she's either walking or performing

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 3>some sort of a dance.

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I actually have a lot. I kind of collect

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 1>these I have, Like every time I got to Mexico,

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I usually get like a Dia delas Mortos or something

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 1>type paper mache doll like this. She's not yes, I am.

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 3>Okay, She's gonna say otherwise, you're just like a culture vulture.

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 3>But you're a Mexican, so we will permiss it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you you. She's not going strong on the makeup.

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>She basically is just doing a lash and a lip.

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 2>But that lower liner is really cut. That lower liner

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 2>is giving down.

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Because she's doing the little where it extends underneath in

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:19.719
<v Speaker 1>the corner, and I like that for sure. Okay, now

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. So she is haunted. There is a

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 1>spirit inside of her, and the spirit inside of her, well,

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>let me just read you because it comes with a bio.

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Maria is larger than life, and even death couldn't dim

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>her spotlight. From the moment I began working with her,

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I knew she was fabulous, dramatic and absolutely unforgettable. Some

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>spirits whisper, some spirits linger in the background, but Maria.

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Maria struts in, steals the scene and demands her standing ovation.

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>She's not shy, not subtle, and definitely not for the

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 1>fame of heart. If you welcome Maria into your space,

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>expect sass, expect glamour, and expect to feel a little

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 1>bit more fabulous just by being in her presence.

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Is Maria the spirit or is she the doll?

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 1>The spirit inside of the doll?

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Is Maria?

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 1>So this is all real. She was a drag queen.

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 2>You feel like she was a drag queen.

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>This is what this says. It says she was drag queen,

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>a queen of the nightlife and a soul who lived

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 1>for the electric thrill of the stage.

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Some assuming she's a doll from PV. It could be.

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, She's a Portavarta drag queen, possibly that has found

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 1>her way in here. She passed around her thirties or forties.

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 1>But she does not dwell on sadness. She refuses to

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:57.959
<v Speaker 1>be remembered in sorrow. She wants to be remembered in glory, power,

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 1>in sequence and rhyme stones.

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 2>There are no sequence or ryanstones anywhere on the all.

0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 3>There's got to be a doll in Mexico that has

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 3>sequences of Ryan Stones on it, like it was she

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 3>did she wish she was just like a last minute

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 3>by This is where is there a buyer's remorse?

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 1>This is the closest doll she was able to find,

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:19.479
<v Speaker 1>because I do think it's like, Okay, I'm a ghost

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm floating around. Where do I go? And then

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 1>like you just have to find what doll you can?

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>You can and you jump in.

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't possess a doll. I would possess a speaker,

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 2>like a Bluetooth speaker.

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh interesting, Yeah, that would be fun.

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:39.200
<v Speaker 3>In my opinion, Electronics turning on by themselves, it's scarier

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 3>than like an an anim an object slightly rotating at

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 3>like one degree.

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Mm, yeah, you been home? You ever been home when

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 2>the TV turned on byself?

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>No? But my home's not haunted. Why does that happen

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 1>in your home?

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 3>It's maybe happened like once or twice, not my current home.

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 3>But sometimes my boyfriend would do this thing where he

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 3>stands right outside of the home, like outside the door,

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 3>and he will turn on the Google Home and have

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 3>it play Beyonce's Dun Crazy I Love, and then he

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 3>marches to the house, open the door, and it stops

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 3>around the house and whenever I'm not prepared for it's

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 3>very scary.

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:23.440
<v Speaker 1>That's fun. So back to this doll, I'm kind of

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:26.439
<v Speaker 1>convinced that this is one of these cases that maybe

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:29.839
<v Speaker 1>this makes me sound full of myself, but I think

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 1>that they're I'm I am suspicious of people that want

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 1>to have a thing on this podcast because they know

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm always looking for funny dolls that are haunted for sale.

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 1>This one sounds real spot on. It sounds like girl,

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 1>she's a drag queen, but it says that she is

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 1>good for somebody that is a performer likes to be

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 1>on stage. I mean, it could be fun to have

0:34:59.000 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>her around.

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:02.439
<v Speaker 2>Do you think these people are targeting you? They listen

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 2>to like, oh roswal By.

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>This, Well, they're like, oh, she'll feature this on the podcast.

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 1>She'll love that. She'll get a kick out of this one.

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Do you ever buy any of them?

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not, although my manager did buy me one and

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 1>and not a damn thing has happened since it's been

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 1>at my home.

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 2>But do you like having it there?

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 2>I do not. Is your manager listening?

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Probably?

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:28.440
<v Speaker 2>You can't just tell people you don't want their gifts.

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy.

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:33.359
<v Speaker 1>No, he knows I didn't want that. Wow, he did. See.

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:35.759
<v Speaker 1>Here's here's a problem that I deal with a lot, Bob,

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 1>is that, first of all, people think that I'm spooky

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 1>and scary, which I'm not. I like to talk about

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.919
<v Speaker 1>spooky as scary things. Okay, I don't.

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not.

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I ain't no goth. Yeah, my hair is black, but

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 1>that's just naturally how it is. I can't.

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:51.960
<v Speaker 2>It is my hair black? Yes? Do I hit my

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 2>nose black? Yes, I've been wearing black lipstick. Yes. Do

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 2>I wear a colder everycasion? Yes? I do. Am I

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 2>holding a book of Satanic rituals? Yes, I'm not goth.

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.320
<v Speaker 1>You've never seen me do any of those things. Besides

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>having black hair, I wear hot pink, I wear razzle dazzle.

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 2>Yoah.

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Go to my Twitter right now, I have a footage

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:14.359
<v Speaker 3>of ros performing a Satanic ritual addressed in all black.

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that's just because what's your favorite movie? Though?

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:20.839
<v Speaker 1>First of all, that was one time, and so now

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm now I'm spooky because one time I did a

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Satanic ritual.

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 2>Your favorite movie will tell us if you're gothing that

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 2>what's your favorite movie?

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:36.400
<v Speaker 1>My favorite movie, honestly, it's probably Boogie Nights, but I

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I love I love the first hour of

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 1>show Girls. But you do like the Craft though, Yeah,

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I like the Craft, and you watch Wicked. I still

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 1>have not seen Wicked.

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:52.239
<v Speaker 2>You're the one one member of the queer community and

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I who haven't seen Wicked yet.

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 3>And we've been looking for this person NonStop and I

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:57.279
<v Speaker 3>can't believe I have actually found them.

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<v Speaker 2>This is crazy.

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 1>This sounds like a witch hunt.

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 2>You should just be a witch. You have all the aesthetic.

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Just be a witch already.

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:11.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think witchcraft is interesting. I've dabbled, for sure,

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not spooky, and I don't think witchcraft is

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 1>necessarily spooky. I think at the end of the day,

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:22.839
<v Speaker 1>most of it is like pretty. It's pretty. It's like candles,

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:28.719
<v Speaker 1>it's oils, it's you burn things, it smells nice. It's

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily like around a cauldron lit. I mean it

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 1>could be.

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, have you ever had a spell put

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 2>on you before?

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I hope not. Let's not encourage that. But you know,

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:45.879
<v Speaker 1>Jinx is a huge witch and she's not spooky either.

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 2>She's advertised a huge.

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Bob I got I guess is a big fat witch.

0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:01.280
<v Speaker 1>I got another thing for you, you some ghost voices.

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Of course, it's time for EVP or ev Please have

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 1>you ever heard the term EVP?

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I guess electron Let me guess electronic voice projections not.

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.399
<v Speaker 1>Bad, electronic voice phenomenal?

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Got it? God? Okay?

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>So this is basically any time a voice is captured

0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 1>that is not connected to a human body and then

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:35.400
<v Speaker 1>people go, it's a ghost.

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:38.880
<v Speaker 1>So it could be, you know, just somebody filming on

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>their camera on their on a recordings advice. And there's

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 1>thousands of these on YouTube, and I have two of

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 1>them for you. I'm going to play you the EVP

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:51.799
<v Speaker 1>and I want you to tell me what you hear,

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>and then I'm going to give you an abc D

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:56.880
<v Speaker 1>one of you know, one of them is the correct

0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 1>answer of what they believe the ghost is saying.

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:00.759
<v Speaker 2>Got it?

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay? So this first one was posted by after Dark

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Club Paranormal Adventures. The location unknown. What is this ghost saying?

0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Play again?

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 1>First of all, I don't know if their smoke detector

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 1>is going off.

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:26.920
<v Speaker 3>I thought this ghost is saying harder. I think this

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 3>is a bottom ghost who's not getting what they need.

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:30.880
<v Speaker 3>And this goes to saying harder.

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 1>It is kind of like sexy. It's like a harder

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:49.399
<v Speaker 1>That's not what after Dark Club Paranormal Adventures thought. Did

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>they think it was a but.

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay? Which goes with what I said?

0:39:56.520 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's a Lydia butthole? Collins Fan ghosts, got it?

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Is it b what home?

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 1>See I want more?

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:10.919
<v Speaker 2>Two of those go with what I said?

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:11.799
<v Speaker 1>Or is it d.

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Go off?

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Girl?

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:17.440
<v Speaker 3>You know I'm gonna say, if it's a ghost, it's

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:19.879
<v Speaker 3>probably saying go home. But I do want to say

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 3>that two of those were perfectly in line with what

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:22.479
<v Speaker 3>I said.

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:25.600
<v Speaker 1>They actually believe it's a butthole.

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:27.920
<v Speaker 2>The ghost said butthole.

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, now that we know that, let's listen.

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go with go home.

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 3>They believe this is this something naked ear could hear

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:48.360
<v Speaker 3>or is thisthing you need like a ghost of ice.

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 2>To hear your ear.

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Don't have to be naked, you could just hear like

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:55.759
<v Speaker 1>any This was captured. It was a recording that they

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.960
<v Speaker 1>listened back to got it and the man filming this

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 1>is like you guys, the ghost said, butthole, he says

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:05.839
<v Speaker 1>in the video. He's like, my kids are gonna love

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 1>this one.

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 2>You hear what you want to hear, all right, butthole.

0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Here's the next one. This one is from Miss Luna

0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Winter and it's in her home. What is this ghost saying? Okay,

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:27.319
<v Speaker 1>this one's a different sounding one.

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 2>It's chatty.

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 1>It's chatty for sure.

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's see what are options.

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:48.000
<v Speaker 1>A Bob and money? Those two slay ridiculous. B Obviously,

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>it's a game this life. See Bob is my name

0:41:55.640 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 1>across the gate right over there? Okay, d the ride

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 1>is broken because the gays broke it, all.

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Right, played it again so I can decide. Bob is

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 2>my name across the gate over there?

0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:17.719
<v Speaker 1>That is exactly what they thought it said. Wait, let's

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:18.279
<v Speaker 1>hear it again.

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:26.279
<v Speaker 3>Well, that just seems the fact that this sounds like

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 3>a service position. And if I died, I'm not still

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 3>doing my job. If I died, I'm not gonna be like, hey,

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:33.359
<v Speaker 3>buy my name. Please feel free to cross the gate

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:35.720
<v Speaker 3>over there, and we're gonna send you an email about

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 3>our just let us know how you feel about our

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 3>experience today. I'm not continuing the work if I'm not

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:40.920
<v Speaker 3>getting paid anymore?

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Well what about see? I also wonder if sort of

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:49.280
<v Speaker 1>like in retirement, when you like start a new career

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 1>or like a new job for fun, you get a

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:56.000
<v Speaker 1>job at the store or whatever, is that like do

0:42:56.080 --> 0:43:00.120
<v Speaker 1>you think that that predictor angel ghost like do you

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>think that that's sort of like it was like a

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>hot guy that died and then he was like, Okay,

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 1>well what am I gonna do?

0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Just be dead? No?

0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to like, what what kind of roles do

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 1>we have? Can I interview for the job as like

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I want to beat the dead grandma ceiling messenger?

0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want to be the one who does with

0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:21.560
<v Speaker 3>their Grandma's gonna die. I would not want I would

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:23.439
<v Speaker 3>not want that job. I wouldn't want to get bad news.

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 2>I want to be like, what is he gonna do?

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:28.879
<v Speaker 2>Promotions coming their way? Promotion is coming your way.

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I love how he just sort of like went back

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 1>into the ceiling.

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 2>And was have fun with that at first beat last.

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Wait a second, I need to hear this this EVP again.

0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it says Bob is my name and the

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 1>gays love me.

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:55.200
<v Speaker 2>I think that these ghosts need to go to speech therapy. Like,

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:56.800
<v Speaker 2>why do all the ghosts mumble?

0:43:57.480 --> 0:44:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, how about when you die and you're a ghost,

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:03.439
<v Speaker 1>Let's see how easy it is. I have a feeling

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>you're going to figure out how to talk.

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll be like hi.

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:08.880
<v Speaker 3>Everyone, There'll be no question, but hi, everyone is good

0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 3>to see you all. I'll be still hosting a podcast

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:11.360
<v Speaker 3>from the afterlot.

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, last thing, rapid fire. What do you think of Bigfoot?

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 3>I think Bigfoot was probably honestly, you want to hear

0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:22.640
<v Speaker 3>my honest truth please? Finally, I think Bigfoot is probably

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:25.719
<v Speaker 3>an unhoused person covered in like stuff to stay warm

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:26.720
<v Speaker 3>and walking through the woods.

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:30.840
<v Speaker 2>I really do.

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:34.839
<v Speaker 1>But they and they were fine being there, like they

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean want to be left alone.

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's walk through the woods covered like trying to

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 3>keep themselves warm. If someone took a picture of them

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:43.440
<v Speaker 3>without their consent and it's like it's it's a Bigfoot.

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Do you know they're trying to make Bigfoot the official

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:53.720
<v Speaker 1>state of California? Cryptid really, Yeah, there's been a petition

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 1>for that, and what is it?

0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Right now?

0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:59.920
<v Speaker 1>We don't have one. There's not such a thing because

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 1>there's real issues in this world right now that need

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:10.640
<v Speaker 1>to be addressed. But what do you think about psychics?

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:11.719
<v Speaker 1>You've never been to one.

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:13.759
<v Speaker 3>I've been doing psychic Yeah, but I mean it was

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 3>like one time, Oh, tell me about it. I got

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 3>nothing out of it, really nothing.

0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Where what was the situation? Was this like a fancy

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:21.880
<v Speaker 1>one or.

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 3>Was it was a psychic that was used to be

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:26.400
<v Speaker 3>next to the bar hardware in New York City? And

0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:28.719
<v Speaker 3>I just stopped in because she was always there open

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:30.400
<v Speaker 3>when the when the bars were clearing out, and I

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:31.920
<v Speaker 3>was like, I'm gonna go to the the to the

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:33.799
<v Speaker 3>palm reader slash psychic.

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 1>And she just had nothing to give you.

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. She was like, there's gonna be a guy. There's

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 2>always a guy, honeyway, that's that's the easy prediction with me.

0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:44.880
<v Speaker 2>There's gonna be a guy. Okay, sure right, Nar wrote

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:46.200
<v Speaker 2>down Mary. You know what I mean.

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I know the guy never came, by the way, why

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:50.839
<v Speaker 1>didn't he come?

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Now, some guys, some guys did come, but the guy

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 2>she described did not. What do you think?

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Uh oe gee boards, I've.

0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:06.799
<v Speaker 3>Never used one. I'm open to it. Although, if I'm

0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:09.919
<v Speaker 3>gonna be honest, they scare me a little bit, really, weed,

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:11.400
<v Speaker 3>you boys do scare me a little bit.

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, would you ever go ghost hunting?

0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:14.959
<v Speaker 2>Is it gonna be cold?

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Possibly?

0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:20.600
<v Speaker 2>No, would you ever go with me again? Is it

0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 2>gonna be cold?

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, it sounds like you're gonna be.

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 3>If we can go somewhere warm, I'm gonna be I'd

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 3>probably interested. But if if I have to wear a coat,

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:31.080
<v Speaker 3>if I have to be cold, I would probably not

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 3>want to do it.

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:33.440
<v Speaker 1>To be honest, Oh really, I will take that any

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:35.759
<v Speaker 1>day ever being hot. Have you seen my faux for

0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:36.280
<v Speaker 1>a collection?

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:41.800
<v Speaker 3>I would rather be over ninety degrees, oh my god,

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:43.440
<v Speaker 3>than under forty degrees.

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, and that's what's so nice is if these ghosts

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:49.239
<v Speaker 1>really are cold and really do exist, they should be

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 1>able to take care of that for us and cool

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 1>it off. If it's ninety degrees, I prefer it because

0:46:56.160 --> 0:46:59.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't want no swamp ass. But you want to

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:02.800
<v Speaker 1>be cold, I would always rather be cold and bundled.

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 1>You know I'm a sweater queen. You know I'm a

0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:07.760
<v Speaker 1>faux for queen.

0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, when it out, it was fall, so I assumed

0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 2>that you were just dressing appropriately with the weather.

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm like that in the summer.

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. I love it.

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Never I don't even own any you have some story dresses. Yes,

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:25.680
<v Speaker 1>when I'm on stage, it's very different.

0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 2>I have great legs. Oh we are you covering them up?

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 2>You know what? Because it's your body can do everyone

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:33.520
<v Speaker 2>with Yeah.

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I can do exactly whatever I want to do with

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:38.640
<v Speaker 1>my transgender body.

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:40.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I believe women.

0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I believe you and your stories that you have shared

0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:49.080
<v Speaker 1>with us today. I would say most people won't.

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:51.480
<v Speaker 2>But I do you think I'm lying?

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:54.960
<v Speaker 1>No note at all. No, And I'm telling you this

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:58.840
<v Speaker 1>the stuff we talk about on this podcast, it gets outragelus.

0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Nobody's going to call you a lot. Hey, Bob, tell

0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 1>people where to find you. Oh my god, tell them

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 1>about your book. You know, we got some history buffs here.

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 3>I wrote a book called Harrod Tubman Live in Concert

0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:12.880
<v Speaker 3>as a historical fiction piece about Herotubman coming back to

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<v Speaker 3>life and writing a hip hop album. It takes place

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<v Speaker 3>right now in current day. You can get a copy

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<v Speaker 3>of it at readth drag Queen dot com. If you

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<v Speaker 3>want to sign copy, you can go to Bob signed

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<v Speaker 3>book dot com. And the audiobook has two original songs

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<v Speaker 3>in it that I'm really proud of.

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<v Speaker 1>Who recorded the songs?

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<v Speaker 2>You?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it your voice?

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<v Speaker 2>It's my voice. My voice is the audiobook. The songs

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<v Speaker 2>are also me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Oh my god, that's so fun. Bob.

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations the singers and voices, there's singers whose voices are

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<v Speaker 2>on there as well, but I'm the one. I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>main star.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations, Bob, thank you Oz, thank you Major and your podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're you know, you're always doing stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have the speech impediment that makes everything you

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<v Speaker 2>say sound sarcastic.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I do, Wait, how do you sound now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to sound sarcastic. Oh, yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 3>There's this thing on Kids in the Hall back the

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<v Speaker 3>minute where he goes, sorry, I have this speech epedimid.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything I say sounds sarcastic, so it goes really He

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<v Speaker 3>goes yeah really.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think you have that.

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<v Speaker 1>M Yeah, I've been accused of that before.

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<v Speaker 2>So would you like to give me a genuine compliment

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<v Speaker 2>before we end the podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Bob, I think that you are genuinely one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most.

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<v Speaker 2>You're you are fighting demons to give me this compliment.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you are one of the most. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I have to finish this sentence. Dynamic performers

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<v Speaker 1>that I have ever had the pleasure of witnessing in person.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take I'm gonna find the compliment in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that not a compliment? You were a dynamic performer.

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<v Speaker 2>Dynamic dynamic I mean one week you're really good, at

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<v Speaker 2>one week really bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what that means?

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<v Speaker 3>Dynamic like dynamics like when things are like quite uh disparate, Right,

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<v Speaker 3>the dynamics of this are up and down, left and right.

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<v Speaker 3>But it also could mean like you seeing you dance,

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<v Speaker 3>you act, you're powerful. Dynamic has a lot of difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm talking about like you can write a book. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you can record music, you can be on multiple reality

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<v Speaker 1>TV shows, and you could do stand up.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to accept all those compliments. Thank you, Thank you, Ross,

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<v Speaker 3>And can I give you a company?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I should think so.

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<v Speaker 2>Ross.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you are effortlessly funny. You have such an

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<v Speaker 3>infectious personality, and when you're around, despite your best efforts,

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<v Speaker 3>you're very, very charming. Even though you try to act

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<v Speaker 3>like you're not sweet and lovey w you're actually really

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<v Speaker 3>sweet and kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Bob, I'm so sad that I don't see you more.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you literally are you cold? You're going to pass

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<v Speaker 2>my studio on the way home.

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<v Speaker 1>You are literally one of the craziest thing listeners. Bob

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<v Speaker 1>is less than one mile away from us right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and he refused, that's not true. I'd be in the

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<v Speaker 1>same building as me.

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<v Speaker 2>I offered to come. Ros said, I look like shit today,

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<v Speaker 2>but will you stop by my studio the way on

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<v Speaker 2>the way home? Please? Fine?

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<v Speaker 1>I will, all right, bye, but my name is Bob.

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<v Speaker 2>Please stay clear the closing doors.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much to Bob. Go buy her book,

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<v Speaker 1>ah Lover. I will be making Bob come back on

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<v Speaker 1>the show because she is somebody that can make anything entertaining,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure we could have a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, you know, a famous documented case or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. All Right, my DearS, go to roz Hernandez

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