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Speaker 1: What's that at the bed spooky? Hey juky, I'm really

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Speaker 1: sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: I said, I loss nandas Plase. Hey boo, it's me

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Speaker 1: Ross and welcome to Ghosted by us Hernandez, the podcast

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Speaker 1: where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, one of my dear friends, Bob the

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Speaker 1: drag Queen, is on the pod today, who, of course

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Speaker 1: you know from winning RuPaul's Drag Race, the TV show

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Speaker 1: We're Here Traders. And she's got a new book coming out.

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Speaker 1: Very excit for Bob. And how's a good story she's got.

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Speaker 1: She's got a good one. You're gonna enjoy this episode,

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Speaker 1: I think. Of course, I wanted to tell you that

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Speaker 1: I'm going on tour doing stand up in primarily gay bars,

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Speaker 1: all over America. I'm coming near where you live, most likely,

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Speaker 1: so go to Rozhernandez tour dot com. I've got dates

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Speaker 1: in May. I even have Oh my gosh, I added

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Speaker 1: all of August. I'm all over the place, so come

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Speaker 1: see me. I won't be talking about ghosts a lot,

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Speaker 1: but I'll be you know, talking about things. We'll be laughing,

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Speaker 1: We'll be having fun. Let's hear a ghost story. Here's

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Speaker 1: a ghost story from a listener named Will. Sort of

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Speaker 1: a long one, but you know it's a good one,

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Speaker 1: so stay with me. Well, writes Hey, raz. I love

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Speaker 1: the show and it's a weekly highlight for me. I

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Speaker 1: thought i'd write in to share some of the haunted

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Speaker 1: home over the years. I grew up in a cottage

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Speaker 1: nine and members of my family have lived in it

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Speaker 1: for roughly one hundred and fifty years. The first spirit

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Speaker 1: they had seen the same thing. As my mom describes it,

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Speaker 1: She said the old lady smiled at her and then

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Speaker 1: Will Will really gave it to us with the typing

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty years. So we're gonna get We're

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Speaker 1: gonna hear about the other spirit in this house next week,

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Speaker 1: so tune in for that, thank you will. Let's get

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Speaker 1: it on over to my conversation with Bob the Drag Queen.

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Speaker 1: On with this show, Bob the Drag Queen. Everybody, Hello,

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Speaker 1: Hey Mary, how you doing?

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Speaker 2: Is Mary right? It's ro.

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Speaker 1: It's it. But I'm a big fan of Hamburger Mary's.

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Speaker 2: Did you have you worked at Hamburger Mary's?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my god, of course.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I've been trying to get Roz to get back into drag,

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Speaker 3: but she just kind of won't do it. But she

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Speaker 3: also low Ki wants to be a miscontinental, but she's.

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Speaker 1: Like afraid to do it. No, what you do?

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Speaker 3: You want to be a miscontinental more than you want

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Speaker 3: your next breath?

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Speaker 2: Just say it.

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Speaker 1: I could never compete with Miss Continental now. That attitude, Well,

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Speaker 3: Well you could, you could, you could pretend to be

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Speaker 3: think you could do for this podcast Has a Ghost

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Speaker 3: Has a Ghost Hunter?

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Speaker 2: Ever? Won Miscontinental? You need to do it for the ghost.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting. Yeah, maybe maybe that'll be my talent and

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Speaker 1: the Miscontinental pageant. I will go on stage.

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Speaker 2: The ghost of former miscontinentals.

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Speaker 1: I'll see if I can conjure up the ghost that

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Speaker 1: famously called me slurs, and we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever find the name of the ghost?

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Speaker 1: Bob?

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Speaker 2: It was you?

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Speaker 3: That was That was just me walking by your bunk

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Speaker 3: on the on the bus, just whispering, faggot.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Bob and I did well. We weirdly

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Speaker 1: did two things right back to back, because you're kind

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Speaker 2: Road and you're kind enough to accept.

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Speaker 1: And we then we randomly went on a cruise together

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Speaker 1: when we were on the tour, we went to you know,

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Speaker 1: every time I perform in a big theater, I ask

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Speaker 1: if it's haunted, and they were pretty much all haunted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all theaters are haunted. That's what they say.

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Speaker 1: That's what they said.

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Speaker 3: But people aren't dying in the theaters, are they? As

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Speaker 3: do ghosts just love live theater.

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Speaker 1: Well, when I'm most like.

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Speaker 3: Are ghosts, Like, no, I actually died at a said go

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Speaker 1: When i'm there, people, someone's dying on stage.

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Speaker 2: I don't know there were ghosts, but well you went.

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Speaker 2: They kept hearing boo, wow that was just me from

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, no. People, there's every single old theater somebody died.

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Speaker 2: Every production with Spider Man turn Off the Dark.

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Speaker 1: It literally was. But like they're special effects. I've heard

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Speaker 1: so many stories of these old theaters where it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: How'd you go about dying on stage?

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Speaker 1: I have?

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Speaker 2: Are we basically the same age? I'm a little older

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Speaker 1: You're older than me a little not much. No, you're

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Speaker 1: you're quite older than me.

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Speaker 3: I can google your age. You're famous enough for me

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Speaker 3: to be able to google your age.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you can google my net worth too, And

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Speaker 1: I don't recommend you take either of those.

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Speaker 3: This truth Roserlandez. It says that you were. It says

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Speaker 3: you'r the comedian and semi retired drag queen.

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Speaker 1: It's a semi retired, Yes.

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Speaker 3: Semi retired drag performer shares the spooky origins of her

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Speaker 1: Podcast semi sized drag queen.

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Speaker 2: Your age is actually hard to find than I thought

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Speaker 2: it would be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not famous, That's why, Bob. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not a queak out winner. Yet you look like I.

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Speaker 2: Did a Mitel in this picture they have of you

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Speaker 2: on IMDb. Bob, let it go, you do. I'm not

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Speaker 2: the first one I tell you like I did a Mizelle.

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Speaker 2: There's no way.

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Speaker 3: I'm the first person to ever say out loud that

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Speaker 3: you kind of look like I did a Mistel. There's

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Speaker 1: I usually here, Leah Michelle, I hear.

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Speaker 2: But they look alike though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so, Bob, listen, we are here to

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Speaker 1: talk about ghosts. That's the reason that I invited you here.

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Speaker 3: So the last thing here are biographies are us. It

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Speaker 3: says you are twenty eight to thirty years.

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Speaker 1: Old work, so it is right, So it is accurate.

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Speaker 2: In twenty eight to thirty is, so.

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Speaker 1: It's accurate.

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Speaker 3: I'm obsessed, but that is no way that's true. But

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Speaker 3: I am obsessed with twenty eight to thirty.

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Speaker 1: That is, say how much money I have?

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Speaker 2: I can google that too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do rouse Hernada's networks, because talk about this is paranormal.

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Speaker 2: Here, your net worth is three million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Ganggang, Can I borrow some money please?

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Speaker 1: Now? Not true, But what is true always is people's

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Speaker 1: Where are you at on any of that stuff? Do

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Speaker 2: Well, I have had paranormal occurrences in my life and

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Speaker 3: better than trying to justify why something bad happened to me. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I know that that's where all of that can get difficult,

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Speaker 2: Why get cancer for no reason exactly that the other

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Speaker 1: Cancer exactly exactly, So I get that for sure. Do

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Speaker 1: you does that have anything to do with like coincidences?

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Speaker 1: Do you do you think that there's any truth to

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Speaker 3: because the Sun and the do you get what I'm.

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Speaker 3: No other planet where the Moon goes between the Earth

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Speaker 1: Sometimes when you pull out, you just do it right.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think about the fact that if I was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jackie b Us, she is still alive, and she's

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Speaker 3: It's the you know what she says in Gypsy. I

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Speaker 1: Them, you know, Okay, Like, how about this to make

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: Wow, I feel lucky that I had, Like I moved

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Speaker 1: You know, right, tell me a ghost story.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a ghost story, but when, uh,

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Speaker 3: So I would call it a paranormal activity more than

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Speaker 2: Who knows what I was seeing.

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Speaker 3: This could have been a polter guyst This could have

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Speaker 2: We're gonna find out.

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Speaker 1: If there's anyone in this world that could tell you

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Speaker 3: So when I was eight years old, I was living

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Speaker 3: this pool of light. No, yeah, there's something I saw.

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Speaker 3: Did it happen?

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Speaker 3: Did I see it? Yes, it was a white man's feet.

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Speaker 3: very angelic type clothes. He looked like an angel. I

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Speaker 3: Grandma's gonna die. We cannot go. Grandma's gonna die, She's

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Speaker 3: gonna die, We can't go. And my grandma died that

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Speaker 2: I said no. An angel came down.

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Speaker 3: He told me that we can't go to missip this summer,

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Speaker 3: or if we do, Grandma Liz is gonna die. And

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Speaker 3: we did go that summer, and she did pass away

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Speaker 3: the summer of nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 2: That's a true story.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: The reason why I think it was sleep paralysis and

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Speaker 3: like the angel looked in my Bible vhs is that

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Speaker 3: exactly how he looked in those VHS's but they were cartoons.

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Speaker 2: But he looked like the real life version of that.

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Speaker 1: Well maybe it was him. Listen, you can't just make

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Speaker 2: You never know. And also.

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Speaker 1: Too, what, Bob, you are a psychic?

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Speaker 3: Like on three or four occasions, I remember telling my

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Speaker 3: three the three ball. Oh, you got to play these numbers,

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Speaker 3: and she never ever played them. And then when she

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Speaker 1: See there, you'll hear from some psychics that will be like,

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Speaker 2: So do you go see the future of these ghost

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know who knows that one whatever you

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Speaker 1: encountered clearly saw the future. But what that is like,

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Speaker 1: my mind is blown. This is a good one, Bob.

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Speaker 3: And what makes it really interesting that my grandmother was

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Speaker 3: So it was it was heart attack, Oh my god,

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Speaker 3: or gang violence. I'll let you decide. And okay, it

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Speaker 3: was a heart attack. My grandma was a crip and

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Speaker 3: the bloods were sick of it. No, it was my

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Speaker 3: grandma had a heart attack at fifty four and passed away.

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Speaker 1: Wow whah, And it was out of nowhere.

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Speaker 3: If there were there were no signs, it's been signed.

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Speaker 1: But let me ask this, if you didn't go, she

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Speaker 2: Who knows.

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Speaker 1: According to the ghost.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the angel didn't. Angel did not say if you go,

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Speaker 3: He said, don't go. Your grandmother will die.

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Speaker 2: So she could have died anyway.

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Speaker 1: But maybe she was gonna die. You just don't want

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Speaker 2: And I actually wasn't there.

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Speaker 3: My brother was there when she started having a heart

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Speaker 2: Something's wrong with with grandma.

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Speaker 3: Grandma lives and then my brother was whisked away and

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Speaker 3: I was at my cousin's house, Mount Lisa's house, and

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Speaker 1: That is so crazy, and so nothing like this has

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 3: Well, when I was like twenty or nineteen years old,

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Speaker 2: Or rumple still skin one of those who shows.

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Speaker 3: And I was lying in bed and it was another

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Speaker 3: battle sleep proalyssis.

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Speaker 2: I was lying in bed. And have you ever had

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Speaker 1: Never? Not once?

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Speaker 2: I have it constantly.

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Speaker 1: You sleep on your back, huh?

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Speaker 2: I should?

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Speaker 3: I try to, but sometimes it happens on my side too.

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Speaker 3: It's actually scarier when it happens on your side than

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Speaker 3: it is when you're on your back because when you're

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I was lying in bed on my back

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Speaker 2: this time, like.

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Speaker 1: Always, Yeah, that's a lot of the stories you tell.

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Speaker 3: And the room got really really cold, if I remember correctly,

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Speaker 3: And it was the summertime, so it was very odd

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Speaker 3: Sleep paralysis is terrifying. Like when you have sleep paralysis,

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Speaker 3: It feels like something's coming to get you. It's scary

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00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 3: when you're on your side because you can only see

444
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 3: the wall or the pillow or whatever you're looking at.

445
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 3: You can't even move a finger, and this thing just

446
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 3: kept getting closer and closer to me, and she just

447
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 3: like hovered at the foot of my bed for what

448
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 3: felt like an eternity, and then it all just started

449
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 3: vanishing and fading away, and then I was able to

450
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 3: like finally wake up, wake up. So I think it

451
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 3: might have been a bad dream that was me.

452
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 2: Honestly, I see it as you sure.

453
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing with sleep paralysis. It's one

454
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,239
Speaker 1: of one of these things where you can explain it

455
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: away by science. So this happens when whatever. But I

456
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: think it could be also paranormal at the same time,

457
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: Like I think that that could be a ghost.

458
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 2: Do you know that there was There's like stories of

459
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: people who.

460
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 3: They went to a coma and then they they were

461
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 3: in the coma for like a week or a month

462
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 3: or something, and then when they came to they were like,

463
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,719
Speaker 3: oh my god, where's my family? Like in the coma

464
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 3: they lived an entire life, like died at eighty. So

465
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 3: the mind is obviously incredibly powerful, right, So that's why

466
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: I think that some people who have who have come

467
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 3: close to passing away or passed way and came back.

468
00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 3: Your mind creates a reality for you. Our time is

469
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 3: completely distorted and whatever you think you're seeing, And because

470
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 3: our brains are essentially made of the exact same manner

471
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 3: or the same material, that's why when you're all high.

472
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 3: You're having similar experiences and similar feelings, and you see

473
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 3: similar waves and.

474
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 2: Lights and stuff.

475
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: Because our brains are made of the same thing, We're

476
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 3: all having very similar experiences.

477
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 2: And that is what we think is the religious experience.

478
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 1: I have talked. Are you saying religion isn't real?

479
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: I am saying that emphatically.

480
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: I have talked to so many millennials, and I've mentioned

481
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: this on the podcast probably multiple times.

482
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 3: Are you gonna Are you gonna make a judgment on

483
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 3: my experience? If it was a ghost or if it

484
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 3: was a demon, you didn't make any judgment.

485
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: Absolutely, a ghost.

486
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 2: Not an angel, not a demon, not a poultry.

487
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: Guist, not a poultr geist. Poultry geist translates to noisy ghost,

488
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: and it usually is not connected to a human like being.

489
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: It's usu just like someone throwing shit or somehow shit

490
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: gets thrown. An angel sure feels a little religious to me,

491
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: But why not? Or is that just a good ghost

492
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: or like you know, a ghost with special powers.

493
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: I'm not ghost for telling the future. Because this ghost

494
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 2: told me your grandma got another summer.

495
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: That is avarition, right, Yeah, maybe that is an angel.

496
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm not sure now when you think about something. Wait,

497
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: I have a point that I was about to make though,

498
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: But but also when you think, okay, that's an angel,

499
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: does that make you think, well, then that maybe that

500
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: means Jesus is real or like.

501
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 2: Because I think Jesus.

502
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 3: I feel pretty certain that Jesus did exist and walk

503
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: the earth, and historians are pretty uh, they have a

504
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 3: general consensus yeah that he wasted.

505
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but what about this the powers.

506
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: Charlatan and a scam artist probably yeah?

507
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: Well, okay, So what I was gonna say is about

508
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: then I've talked about this before a lot of people

509
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: give or take why I was gonna say our age,

510
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 1: But according to the Internet, I'm not really in this category.

511
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: But saw The Ring and the Grudge at like a

512
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: preteen kind of age, teen whatever, and it really stuck

513
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: with them. And so many people will tell me sleep

514
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 1: press the stories where it's that they see the girl

515
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: with the long hair. Now was this girl? Was she

516
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: out there trying to do this before those movies came out?

517
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: Or is this just that's what we think of as

518
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: the scariest fucking thing ever because it was so traumatic

519
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 1: for us to see us at that age in like.

520
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 2: Two hundred years, are ghosts gonna show up wearing skinny jeans?

521
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 3: I feel like there was a ghost and a pair

522
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 3: of big, oversized baggy pants and it had a middle

523
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 3: part and it was really scary.

524
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 2: Of course it was holding a Stanley cup. I'm so scared.

525
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: You know.

526
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: What I think about more so is like people that

527
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: are like really into extreme like body modification and stuff

528
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: like sometimes you see like ooh, this man, he lives

529
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: his life as a snake or whatever. If that man's

530
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: ghost came back in the middle of the night, that

531
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: would be very startling.

532
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 2: When you come back as a ghost, how do you

533
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: want to up hear? Do you think that? Is this

534
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 2: your peak form right now? Is it like a year ago?

535
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: You said that, Really it's with a tone. You said

536
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: that with a tone. I think I would want to

537
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: come back dressed like a Dina Menzell, and I want

538
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: people right now so this very moment, what first of all,

539
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: this look is adele deseame, which is different your hipster.

540
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: This is this is adele disease, not quite a Dina Menzell.

541
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: Silver like silver like a Dnamozelle is adultaza.

542
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: Wow, Bob, these I'm actually really impressed by your stories.

543
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: I can't I can't believe it's taken seven years to

544
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: get you on this podcast.

545
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: I mean, the experiences are the I had the experience.

546
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: Did it really happen? I don't know.

547
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 3: I think it was of my mind. I have a

548
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 3: very creative mind. It just greats stuff even without my consent.

549
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 3: But I still don't think I saw a ghost though.

550
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: The fact that there's the prediction element to the one

551
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: that's crazy.

552
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes it really weird.

553
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: That's really crazy. And also why did that angel only

554
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: tell you that thing but not other things?

555
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 3: He just had a message to send me, but I

556
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 3: didn't listen. Well, i'd listen. My mom didn't listen.

557
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: But still it's like, I don't know, it's weird. It

558
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: seems like there could be so many other things that

559
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: could have warned you about throughout your life.

560
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 3: Or he could have been he could have been like

561
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 3: something's gonna come. It's gonna be called bitcoin and invest early.

562
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: That would have been great.

563
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. Yeah, it's very strange. But you

564
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: know what, that's what's fun about this. We don't know.

565
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: We don't know. If we did, I wouldn't have a podcast.

566
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: This is true.

567
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: Hey, Bob. One thing that's always very real and accurate.

568
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: We look at haunted dolls on this podcast. Can I

569
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: show you a doll that's currently for sale on eBay

570
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: right now?

571
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? Shows me.

572
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: It's time for the dolls are living?

573
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: Okay, you're going to prison. You're going to prison, Bob.

574
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: We like to look at these haunted dolls. I just

575
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: go to eBay dot com. I type and haunted doll.

576
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: This one it's going for fifty five dollars.

577
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: That's not a bad price.

578
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: Her name's Maria. Show us Maria Gieha, you got it rise?

579
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: So what's she haunted with?

580
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: She definitely I'm guessing she's like a paper mache doll

581
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: you would get in Mexico. There is a cultural element

582
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: to her.

583
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: Can we click on one of her body please? Yeah?

584
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, now I see yeah, yeah, that she's she seemed

585
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 3: to be wearing like some sort of a traditional Latin

586
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: American garment and she's it's like a big, big, flowy

587
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: skirt and it's the color of candy corn with one

588
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: random like I'm colorblind, what's that one strip at the bottom,

589
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: second the bottoms with a green So it's candy corn

590
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 3: with a green strip at the bottom and she's holding

591
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 3: the dress up as if she's either walking or performing

592
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: some sort of a dance.

593
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: Yes, I actually have a lot. I kind of collect

594
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: these I have, Like every time I got to Mexico,

595
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: I usually get like a Dia delas Mortos or something

596
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: type paper mache doll like this. She's not yes, I am.

597
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 3: Okay, She's gonna say otherwise, you're just like a culture vulture.

598
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 3: But you're a Mexican, so we will permiss it.

599
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: Thank you you. She's not going strong on the makeup.

600
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: She basically is just doing a lash and a lip.

601
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: But that lower liner is really cut. That lower liner

602
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: is giving down.

603
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: Because she's doing the little where it extends underneath in

604
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 1: the corner, and I like that for sure. Okay, now

605
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: here's the thing. So she is haunted. There is a

606
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: spirit inside of her, and the spirit inside of her, well,

607
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: let me just read you because it comes with a bio.

608
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: Maria is larger than life, and even death couldn't dim

609
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: her spotlight. From the moment I began working with her,

610
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: I knew she was fabulous, dramatic and absolutely unforgettable. Some

611
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: spirits whisper, some spirits linger in the background, but Maria.

612
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: Maria struts in, steals the scene and demands her standing ovation.

613
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: She's not shy, not subtle, and definitely not for the

614
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: fame of heart. If you welcome Maria into your space,

615
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: expect sass, expect glamour, and expect to feel a little

616
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: bit more fabulous just by being in her presence.

617
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: Is Maria the spirit or is she the doll?

618
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: The spirit inside of the doll?

619
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: Is Maria?

620
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: So this is all real. She was a drag queen.

621
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: You feel like she was a drag queen.

622
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: This is what this says. It says she was drag queen,

623
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: a queen of the nightlife and a soul who lived

624
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: for the electric thrill of the stage.

625
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: Some assuming she's a doll from PV. It could be.

626
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: Yes, She's a Portavarta drag queen, possibly that has found

627
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: her way in here. She passed around her thirties or forties.

628
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: But she does not dwell on sadness. She refuses to

629
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 1: be remembered in sorrow. She wants to be remembered in glory, power,

630
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: in sequence and rhyme stones.

631
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: There are no sequence or ryanstones anywhere on the all.

632
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: There's got to be a doll in Mexico that has

633
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: sequences of Ryan Stones on it, like it was she

634
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: did she wish she was just like a last minute

635
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: by This is where is there a buyer's remorse?

636
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: This is the closest doll she was able to find,

637
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 1: because I do think it's like, Okay, I'm a ghost

638
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: and I'm floating around. Where do I go? And then

639
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: like you just have to find what doll you can?

640
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: You can and you jump in.

641
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: I wouldn't possess a doll. I would possess a speaker,

642
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: like a Bluetooth speaker.

643
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Yeah, that would be fun.

644
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 3: In my opinion, Electronics turning on by themselves, it's scarier

645
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: than like an an anim an object slightly rotating at

646
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: like one degree.

647
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: Mm, yeah, you been home? You ever been home when

648
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: the TV turned on byself?

649
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: No? But my home's not haunted. Why does that happen

650
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: in your home?

651
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: Uh?

652
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 3: It's maybe happened like once or twice, not my current home.

653
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: But sometimes my boyfriend would do this thing where he

654
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: stands right outside of the home, like outside the door,

655
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 3: and he will turn on the Google Home and have

656
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: it play Beyonce's Dun Crazy I Love, and then he

657
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 3: marches to the house, open the door, and it stops

658
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 3: around the house and whenever I'm not prepared for it's

659
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: very scary.

660
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: That's fun. So back to this doll, I'm kind of

661
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 1: convinced that this is one of these cases that maybe

662
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: this makes me sound full of myself, but I think

663
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: that they're I'm I am suspicious of people that want

664
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: to have a thing on this podcast because they know

665
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm always looking for funny dolls that are haunted for sale.

666
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: This one sounds real spot on. It sounds like girl,

667
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: she's a drag queen, but it says that she is

668
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: good for somebody that is a performer likes to be

669
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: on stage. I mean, it could be fun to have

670
00:34:59,000 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: her around.

671
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 2: Do you think these people are targeting you? They listen

672
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: to like, oh roswal By.

673
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: This, Well, they're like, oh, she'll feature this on the podcast.

674
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: She'll love that. She'll get a kick out of this one.

675
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: Do you ever buy any of them?

676
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, although my manager did buy me one and

677
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: and not a damn thing has happened since it's been

678
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: at my home.

679
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: But do you like having it there?

680
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 3: No?

681
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 2: I do not. Is your manager listening?

682
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: Probably?

683
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: You can't just tell people you don't want their gifts.

684
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

685
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: No, he knows I didn't want that. Wow, he did. See.

686
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: Here's here's a problem that I deal with a lot, Bob,

687
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: is that, first of all, people think that I'm spooky

688
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: and scary, which I'm not. I like to talk about

689
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 1: spooky as scary things. Okay, I don't.

690
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 2: I'm not.

691
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: I ain't no goth. Yeah, my hair is black, but

692
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: that's just naturally how it is. I can't.

693
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: It is my hair black? Yes? Do I hit my

694
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: nose black? Yes, I've been wearing black lipstick. Yes. Do

695
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: I wear a colder everycasion? Yes? I do. Am I

696
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: holding a book of Satanic rituals? Yes, I'm not goth.

697
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: You've never seen me do any of those things. Besides

698
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: having black hair, I wear hot pink, I wear razzle dazzle.

699
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: Yoah.

700
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: Go to my Twitter right now, I have a footage

701
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 3: of ros performing a Satanic ritual addressed in all black.

702
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's just because what's your favorite movie? Though?

703
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: First of all, that was one time, and so now

704
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm now I'm spooky because one time I did a

705
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: Satanic ritual.

706
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: Your favorite movie will tell us if you're gothing that

707
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: what's your favorite movie?

708
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: My favorite movie, honestly, it's probably Boogie Nights, but I

709
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: don't know. I love I love the first hour of

710
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: show Girls. But you do like the Craft though, Yeah,

711
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: I like the Craft, and you watch Wicked. I still

712
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: have not seen Wicked.

713
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: You're the one one member of the queer community and

714
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: I who haven't seen Wicked yet.

715
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 3: And we've been looking for this person NonStop and I

716
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 3: can't believe I have actually found them.

717
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 2: This is crazy.

718
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: This sounds like a witch hunt.

719
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: You should just be a witch. You have all the aesthetic.

720
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 2: Just be a witch already.

721
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I think witchcraft is interesting. I've dabbled, for sure,

722
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: But I'm not spooky, and I don't think witchcraft is

723
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: necessarily spooky. I think at the end of the day,

724
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: most of it is like pretty. It's pretty. It's like candles,

725
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: it's oils, it's you burn things, it smells nice. It's

726
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: not necessarily like around a cauldron lit. I mean it

727
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: could be.

728
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, have you ever had a spell put

729
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: on you before?

730
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: I hope not. Let's not encourage that. But you know,

731
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: Jinx is a huge witch and she's not spooky either.

732
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: She's advertised a huge.

733
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: Bob I got I guess is a big fat witch.

734
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 1: I got another thing for you, you some ghost voices.

735
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: Of course, it's time for EVP or ev Please have

736
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: you ever heard the term EVP?

737
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: No?

738
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: Okay, I guess electron Let me guess electronic voice projections not.

739
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: Bad, electronic voice phenomenal?

740
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: Got it? God? Okay?

741
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: So this is basically any time a voice is captured

742
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: that is not connected to a human body and then

743
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: people go, it's a ghost.

744
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: Okay.

745
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: So it could be, you know, just somebody filming on

746
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: their camera on their on a recordings advice. And there's

747
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: thousands of these on YouTube, and I have two of

748
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: them for you. I'm going to play you the EVP

749
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: and I want you to tell me what you hear,

750
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to give you an abc D

751
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: one of you know, one of them is the correct

752
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: answer of what they believe the ghost is saying.

753
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 2: Got it?

754
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: Okay? So this first one was posted by after Dark

755
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: Club Paranormal Adventures. The location unknown. What is this ghost saying?

756
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: Play again?

757
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: First of all, I don't know if their smoke detector

758
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: is going off.

759
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 3: I thought this ghost is saying harder. I think this

760
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: is a bottom ghost who's not getting what they need.

761
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: And this goes to saying harder.

762
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: It is kind of like sexy. It's like a harder

763
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: That's not what after Dark Club Paranormal Adventures thought. Did

764
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: they think it was a but.

765
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: Okay? Which goes with what I said?

766
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a Lydia butthole? Collins Fan ghosts, got it?

767
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: Is it b what home?

768
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 2: Okay?

769
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: See I want more?

770
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 2: Two of those go with what I said?

771
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: Or is it d.

772
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 3: Go off?

773
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: Girl?

774
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 3: You know I'm gonna say, if it's a ghost, it's

775
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 3: probably saying go home. But I do want to say

776
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: that two of those were perfectly in line with what

777
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:22,479
Speaker 3: I said.

778
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: They actually believe it's a butthole.

779
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: The ghost said butthole.

780
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: Okay, now that we know that, let's listen.

781
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with go home.

782
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 3: They believe this is this something naked ear could hear

783
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 3: or is thisthing you need like a ghost of ice.

784
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: To hear your ear.

785
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: Don't have to be naked, you could just hear like

786
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: any This was captured. It was a recording that they

787
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: listened back to got it and the man filming this

788
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: is like you guys, the ghost said, butthole, he says

789
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: in the video. He's like, my kids are gonna love

790
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: this one.

791
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: You hear what you want to hear, all right, butthole.

792
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: Here's the next one. This one is from Miss Luna

793
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: Winter and it's in her home. What is this ghost saying? Okay,

794
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: this one's a different sounding one.

795
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: It's chatty.

796
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: It's chatty for sure.

797
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see what are options.

798
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: A Bob and money? Those two slay ridiculous. B Obviously,

799
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: it's a game this life. See Bob is my name

800
00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: across the gate right over there? Okay, d the ride

801
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: is broken because the gays broke it, all.

802
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: Right, played it again so I can decide. Bob is

803
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: my name across the gate over there?

804
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: That is exactly what they thought it said. Wait, let's

805
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: hear it again.

806
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 3: Well, that just seems the fact that this sounds like

807
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 3: a service position. And if I died, I'm not still

808
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: doing my job. If I died, I'm not gonna be like, hey,

809
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 3: buy my name. Please feel free to cross the gate

810
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 3: over there, and we're gonna send you an email about

811
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: our just let us know how you feel about our

812
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: experience today. I'm not continuing the work if I'm not

813
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: getting paid anymore?

814
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: Well what about see? I also wonder if sort of

815
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: like in retirement, when you like start a new career

816
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: or like a new job for fun, you get a

817
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: job at the store or whatever, is that like do

818
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: you think that that predictor angel ghost like do you

819
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: think that that's sort of like it was like a

820
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: hot guy that died and then he was like, Okay,

821
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: well what am I gonna do?

822
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: Just be dead? No?

823
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: I want to like, what what kind of roles do

824
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: we have? Can I interview for the job as like

825
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: I want to beat the dead grandma ceiling messenger?

826
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to be the one who does with

827
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: their Grandma's gonna die. I would not want I would

828
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 3: not want that job. I wouldn't want to get bad news.

829
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: I want to be like, what is he gonna do?

830
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 2: Promotions coming their way? Promotion is coming your way.

831
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: I love how he just sort of like went back

832
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: into the ceiling.

833
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: And was have fun with that at first beat last.

834
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: Wait a second, I need to hear this this EVP again.

835
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: I think it says Bob is my name and the

836
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: gays love me.

837
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: I think that these ghosts need to go to speech therapy. Like,

838
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 2: why do all the ghosts mumble?

839
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 1: Well, how about when you die and you're a ghost,

840
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 1: Let's see how easy it is. I have a feeling

841
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: you're going to figure out how to talk.

842
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: I'll be like hi.

843
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 3: Everyone, There'll be no question, but hi, everyone is good

844
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 3: to see you all. I'll be still hosting a podcast

845
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 3: from the afterlot.

846
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: Okay, last thing, rapid fire. What do you think of Bigfoot?

847
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: I think Bigfoot was probably honestly, you want to hear

848
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 3: my honest truth please? Finally, I think Bigfoot is probably

849
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 3: an unhoused person covered in like stuff to stay warm

850
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 3: and walking through the woods.

851
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: I really do.

852
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: But they and they were fine being there, like they

853
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: I mean want to be left alone.

854
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's walk through the woods covered like trying to

855
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 3: keep themselves warm. If someone took a picture of them

856
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 3: without their consent and it's like it's it's a Bigfoot.

857
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: Do you know they're trying to make Bigfoot the official

858
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: state of California? Cryptid really, Yeah, there's been a petition

859
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: for that, and what is it?

860
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: Right now?

861
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: We don't have one. There's not such a thing because

862
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: there's real issues in this world right now that need

863
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: to be addressed. But what do you think about psychics?

864
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: You've never been to one.

865
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 3: I've been doing psychic Yeah, but I mean it was

866
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: like one time, Oh, tell me about it. I got

867
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: nothing out of it, really nothing.

868
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: Where what was the situation? Was this like a fancy

869
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: one or.

870
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: Was it was a psychic that was used to be

871
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 3: next to the bar hardware in New York City? And

872
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 3: I just stopped in because she was always there open

873
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 3: when the when the bars were clearing out, and I

874
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 3: was like, I'm gonna go to the the to the

875
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 3: palm reader slash psychic.

876
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: And she just had nothing to give you.

877
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. She was like, there's gonna be a guy. There's

878
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: always a guy, honeyway, that's that's the easy prediction with me.

879
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a guy. Okay, sure right, Nar wrote

880
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: down Mary. You know what I mean.

881
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: I know the guy never came, by the way, why

882
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: didn't he come?

883
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: Now, some guys, some guys did come, but the guy

884
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: she described did not. What do you think?

885
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: Uh oe gee boards, I've.

886
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 3: Never used one. I'm open to it. Although, if I'm

887
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 3: gonna be honest, they scare me a little bit, really, weed,

888
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: you boys do scare me a little bit.

889
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you ever go ghost hunting?

890
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:14,959
Speaker 2: Is it gonna be cold?

891
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: Possibly?

892
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: No, would you ever go with me again? Is it

893
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: gonna be cold?

894
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like you're gonna be.

895
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 3: If we can go somewhere warm, I'm gonna be I'd

896
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 3: probably interested. But if if I have to wear a coat,

897
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: if I have to be cold, I would probably not

898
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 3: want to do it.

899
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: To be honest, Oh really, I will take that any

900
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: day ever being hot. Have you seen my faux for

901
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 1: a collection?

902
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 3: I would rather be over ninety degrees, oh my god,

903
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 3: than under forty degrees.

904
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: Well, and that's what's so nice is if these ghosts

905
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: really are cold and really do exist, they should be

906
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: able to take care of that for us and cool

907
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: it off. If it's ninety degrees, I prefer it because

908
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: I don't want no swamp ass. But you want to

909
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 1: be cold, I would always rather be cold and bundled.

910
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: You know I'm a sweater queen. You know I'm a

911
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 1: faux for queen.

912
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: Well, when it out, it was fall, so I assumed

913
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: that you were just dressing appropriately with the weather.

914
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: No, I'm like that in the summer.

915
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: That's crazy. I love it.

916
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: Never I don't even own any you have some story dresses. Yes,

917
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: when I'm on stage, it's very different.

918
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: I have great legs. Oh we are you covering them up?

919
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: You know what? Because it's your body can do everyone

920
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: with Yeah.

921
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: I can do exactly whatever I want to do with

922
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: my transgender body.

923
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I believe women.

924
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: I believe you and your stories that you have shared

925
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: with us today. I would say most people won't.

926
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: But I do you think I'm lying?

927
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: No note at all. No, And I'm telling you this

928
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: the stuff we talk about on this podcast, it gets outragelus.

929
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: Nobody's going to call you a lot. Hey, Bob, tell

930
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: people where to find you. Oh my god, tell them

931
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: about your book. You know, we got some history buffs here.

932
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 3: I wrote a book called Harrod Tubman Live in Concert

933
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 3: as a historical fiction piece about Herotubman coming back to

934
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 3: life and writing a hip hop album. It takes place

935
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 3: right now in current day. You can get a copy

936
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: of it at readth drag Queen dot com. If you

937
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 3: want to sign copy, you can go to Bob signed

938
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 3: book dot com. And the audiobook has two original songs

939
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 3: in it that I'm really proud of.

940
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 1: Who recorded the songs?

941
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 2: You?

942
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: Is it your voice?

943
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: It's my voice. My voice is the audiobook. The songs

944
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: are also me.

945
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my god, that's so fun. Bob.

946
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: Congratulations the singers and voices, there's singers whose voices are

947
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 2: on there as well, but I'm the one. I'm the

948
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: main star.

949
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: Congratulations, Bob, thank you Oz, thank you Major and your podcast.

950
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: And you're you know, you're always doing stuff.

951
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: So you have the speech impediment that makes everything you

952
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: say sound sarcastic.

953
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: No, I do, Wait, how do you sound now I'm

954
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: trying to sound sarcastic. Oh, yeah, I do.

955
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 3: There's this thing on Kids in the Hall back the

956
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 3: minute where he goes, sorry, I have this speech epedimid.

957
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 3: Everything I say sounds sarcastic, so it goes really He

958
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 3: goes yeah really.

959
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 2: And I think you have that.

960
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: M Yeah, I've been accused of that before.

961
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 2: So would you like to give me a genuine compliment

962
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 2: before we end the podcast?

963
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: Yes, Bob, I think that you are genuinely one of

964
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: the most.

965
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 2: You're you are fighting demons to give me this compliment.

966
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: I think that you are one of the most. I

967
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: feel like I have to finish this sentence. Dynamic performers

968
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: that I have ever had the pleasure of witnessing in person.

969
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take I'm gonna find the compliment in there.

970
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: Is that not a compliment? You were a dynamic performer.

971
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: Dynamic dynamic I mean one week you're really good, at

972
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 2: one week really bad.

973
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: Is that what that means?

974
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 3: Dynamic like dynamics like when things are like quite uh disparate, Right,

975
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 3: the dynamics of this are up and down, left and right.

976
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: But it also could mean like you seeing you dance,

977
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 3: you act, you're powerful. Dynamic has a lot of difference.

978
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm talking about like you can write a book. Oh,

979
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: you can record music, you can be on multiple reality

980
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: TV shows, and you could do stand up.

981
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to accept all those compliments. Thank you, Thank you, Ross,

982
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 3: And can I give you a company?

983
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: Now?

984
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? I should think so.

985
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: Ross.

986
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 3: I think you are effortlessly funny. You have such an

987
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: infectious personality, and when you're around, despite your best efforts,

988
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 3: you're very, very charming. Even though you try to act

989
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 3: like you're not sweet and lovey w you're actually really

990
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 3: sweet and kind.

991
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: Oh Bob, I'm so sad that I don't see you more.

992
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: Well, you literally are you cold? You're going to pass

993
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 2: my studio on the way home.

994
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: You are literally one of the craziest thing listeners. Bob

995
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: is less than one mile away from us right now,

996
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: and he refused, that's not true. I'd be in the

997
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: same building as me.

998
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 2: I offered to come. Ros said, I look like shit today,

999
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 2: but will you stop by my studio the way on

1000
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 2: the way home? Please? Fine?

1001
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: I will, all right, bye, but my name is Bob.

1002
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: Please stay clear the closing doors.

1003
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Bob. Go buy her book,

1004
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: ah Lover. I will be making Bob come back on

1005
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: the show because she is somebody that can make anything entertaining,

1006
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: and I'm sure we could have a lot of fun

1007
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, a famous documented case or something

1008
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: like that. All Right, my DearS, go to roz Hernandez

1009
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: tour dot com to get your tickets to come see

1010
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: me live. Tell everyone you know about this podcast. I

1011
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: love you all, both living and dead. But if I

1012
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me. Came on.

1013
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: This has been an exactly right production. Want to share

1014
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read stories out

1015
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: loud and sometimes I'll even call you, so email me

1016
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. You can

1017
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Speaker 1: send a DM or voice message to the show's Instagram

1018
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1019
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Speaker 1: and follow me Roz on Instagram at roz Hernandez, and

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Speaker 1: on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez. My senior

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Speaker 1: producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the

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Speaker 1: alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound designed

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Speaker 1: by the Eerie en Joy. My guest booker is the

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Speaker 1: petrifying Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is by the spine

1025
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Speaker 1: chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lilac,

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00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the

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Speaker 1: chilling Karen Kilgareff, the spooky Georgia hart Stark, and the

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