Speaker 1: I'm off my game today. No, you're not. People are
Speaker 1: going to have to start making better content. I think
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about this for a long time.
Speaker 1: When you program for everyone, you program for no one.
Speaker 1: I think it's a word purpose driven platform. Like we're
Speaker 1: trying to get to substance? How was that? Are you
Speaker 1: happy with that? This is marketing therapy right now? And
Speaker 1: it really is? What's up on? Laura Currunti and I'm
Speaker 1: Alexa Kristen. Welcome to a special Women Wednesday exclusive interview
Speaker 1: featuring the one and only Miss Miko Prasinski. Mika is
Speaker 1: a co host of Morning Joe on MSNBC and really
Speaker 1: started a movement because she had a moment in her
Speaker 1: life and realized that she wanted to have a purpose
Speaker 1: driven career to help other women know their value. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And while Alex, I mean we were originally enamored with
Speaker 1: her as a woman in media, I think what we
Speaker 1: found over the course of getting to know Mika and
Speaker 1: her story is actually what's it's beneath the surface or
Speaker 1: behind the esk, or maybe not behind the desk, maybe
Speaker 1: on the other side of the desk. Um is that
Speaker 1: Mika's experience things that are constant conversations that we have
Speaker 1: as professionals, and one that we find a lot of
Speaker 1: our friends having to in terms of knowing their value
Speaker 1: and understanding how they evolve as a brand in the market. Also,
Speaker 1: I think what she says, and you'll hear this really interesting,
Speaker 1: is like, well, you have to have more than maybe
Speaker 1: just this right this being one thing, um, because you
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen, especially in the media
Speaker 1: and marketing space, like technology disrupt, networks change, there's acquisitions
Speaker 1: and mergers happening all the time, and without knowing your
Speaker 1: purpose to your point, you know, you have to understand
Speaker 1: how do you evolve as your own brand. And there's
Speaker 1: so much of this going on, especially in the marketing world,
Speaker 1: where you're starting to see cmos jumping out and branding themselves, um,
Speaker 1: beyond just their business and starting to become influencers and
Speaker 1: movers and shakers that stand for something. And this doesn't
Speaker 1: just apply, by the way, to our industry. I think
Speaker 1: that what we recognize, whether that's in news, whether that's
Speaker 1: in fine education, finance, Yeah, there's opportunity to find what
Speaker 1: it is that moves you and and reach out and
Speaker 1: do it. Right and find the white space. And so
Speaker 1: I think Mika story was one that we wanted to
Speaker 1: drop as a special episode. I hope you enjoy it. Enjoy.
Speaker 1: We are so excited to be in the booth today
Speaker 1: with the one and only Mika Brazinski. Hi, how are
Speaker 1: you guys? Doing good? Mica? Everyone? For those of you
Speaker 1: who don't know, and if you don't, well you should,
Speaker 1: you should. Mica is the co host of MSNBC's Morning
Speaker 1: Joe weekdays six to nine am, and also the founder
Speaker 1: of the Know Your Value movement. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. My God, I'm excited, We're excited. Nervous.
Speaker 1: You made me think? Really, yeah, we made you nervy. Yep,
Speaker 1: that is an honor. Yeah, I always just in it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell everybody that I was actually going to
Speaker 1: ask you, like you ever get nervous? I get very nervous.
Speaker 1: I get nervous during things like this um when it's
Speaker 1: intimate and personal and speaking in front of actual crowds.
Speaker 1: But I love being on TV. I could do that forever.
Speaker 1: I sweat in front of crowds. I get flop sweat
Speaker 1: down my back. But I think, is it more like excitement,
Speaker 1: like anxious nervousness. It's a mixture of being nervous and
Speaker 1: feeling like everyone's looking at me and I've done something
Speaker 1: dramatically wrong before I even open my mouth. Mixture of
Speaker 1: anxiety to do the right thing and to say the
Speaker 1: right thing and to get it all right, and then
Speaker 1: a mixture of excitement too. Do you talk about that?
Speaker 1: And Okay, so we're gonna go into like you're this
Speaker 1: amazing New York Times best selling writer. You have started
Speaker 1: this movement about women knowing their value by growing their value, Yes,
Speaker 1: I have. Do you think that men actually get nervous
Speaker 1: the same way women get nervous? Like they don't, And
Speaker 1: they have a lot of qualities that we need to emulate,
Speaker 1: Like they are incredibly they are ridiculously overconfident that they
Speaker 1: are um. They lie, They lie like rugs. They don't
Speaker 1: even know they're lying. When they're negotiating, they lie unbelievably
Speaker 1: and they have no idea they're doing it. They don't
Speaker 1: remember anything, right, they forget everything. And that's an incredible
Speaker 1: quality too, that helps them succeed professionally. So it's like
Speaker 1: men the first ephemeral media brand, right, It's also could
Speaker 1: feel like couples counseling right now, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: indicative of the conversation I had at my dinner table
Speaker 1: last night. Anyhow, So your brand, Mika Prasinski brand, we're
Speaker 1: really curious to understand coming out of CBS obviously now
Speaker 1: on NBC and growing up in the world of journalism
Speaker 1: now sort of spreading your wings into media company owner
Speaker 1: for all intents and purposes. Can you talk to us
Speaker 1: a little bit about what that looks like from a
Speaker 1: vision standpoint and where you see no your value going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when I was in you know, when I was fourteen
Speaker 1: years old, I wanted to be in in a TV
Speaker 1: news reporter. So I was very focused from the get go,
Speaker 1: and I started working at like the local cable Fairfax
Speaker 1: Cable Access. I did a TV show when I was
Speaker 1: sixteen called Eminem's Mika and Melissa Show, and we looked
Speaker 1: at like teen issues. We made an open drive in
Speaker 1: my truck and like it was, you know, the beginning
Speaker 1: of you know, someone who was very focused on having
Speaker 1: a career in television. I worked at the networks and
Speaker 1: at local affiliates as interns during summers for free. When
Speaker 1: I was in college. I did a TV show on
Speaker 1: the cable access uh TV channel in North Adams, Massachusetts,
Speaker 1: on the issue of teen pregnancy because at that time
Speaker 1: North Adams had the highest rate of teen pregnancy in
Speaker 1: the country. From then on, I worked my way up,
Speaker 1: had kids, got married, but continued to really drive at
Speaker 1: that career all the way to CBS News and sixteen Minutes,
Speaker 1: and at the height of it, I had two kids.
Speaker 1: I was able to bring them to work with me
Speaker 1: at times. I had really successfully navigated conflating in a
Speaker 1: positive way family and work, and I thought I really
Speaker 1: had it down when I was anchoring the Sunday Evening
Speaker 1: News on CBS and one of my kids was under
Speaker 1: the desk and quiet, by the way, which was amazing
Speaker 1: given the child that she was um And I also
Speaker 1: had a contract to be a contributor to sixty Minutes
Speaker 1: and that was kind of like the plum girl job
Speaker 1: of CBS at the time. And a year later, Dan
Speaker 1: Rather was taken down because of memo gade management was
Speaker 1: swept out and about six months after that, Katie Kuric
Speaker 1: was hired, and four days later it was called down
Speaker 1: to the President's office and I was fired on the spot, um,
Speaker 1: and I walked out of there very um heartbroken and
Speaker 1: stunned and shocked. Uh, my idea nity had been just
Speaker 1: swallowed out of me, taken away, sucked out of me,
Speaker 1: just just in a in a poof, and a lot
Speaker 1: of friends disappeared, which is interesting too. Um. So to
Speaker 1: answer your question about where I go moving forward, I
Speaker 1: did kind of climb back into t VS right at
Speaker 1: the bottom. But I always thought, you know, we get
Speaker 1: fired from these jobs. These jobs come and go, ratings
Speaker 1: come and go. Jobs and TV are just not the future.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be I'm almost forty at the time.
Speaker 1: I'm almost fifty now, and I need to figure out
Speaker 1: what this all, what I can do with this, what
Speaker 1: something good? And that's when I wrote the book Knowing
Speaker 1: Your Value a couple of years later, and it really
Speaker 1: kind of exploded in my face. I mean, the book
Speaker 1: was a bestseller. Women were coming up to me from
Speaker 1: all over the place saying, I read your book. I
Speaker 1: gotta raise, I read your book, I gotta raise. I
Speaker 1: read your book. I got the leave that I wanted
Speaker 1: to read your book, and I figured out my job
Speaker 1: and all walks of life. And that's what I realized
Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna do after TV. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do. It's not awesome feeling when you finally realize
Speaker 1: you're in control of that destiny. Lax and I have
Speaker 1: had this conversation many times about the impetus for this
Speaker 1: podcast and knowing what you're passionate about and you love
Speaker 1: and there's nothing that's good and it's so passionate using
Speaker 1: your voice for it, and it makes it the job
Speaker 1: actually more secure because honestly, if I if I if
Speaker 1: my TV job goes away, and boy, I've seen it happen.
Speaker 1: I've seen my TV job go away in the snap. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is what I'm gonna do, and I'm building it now,
Speaker 1: but it would, it would happen regardless of the TV job,
Speaker 1: and it sort of makes everything that I do have
Speaker 1: perspective and I do it better because those TV jobs,
Speaker 1: when you know that they could go away at the
Speaker 1: at the click of a switch, you kind of are
Speaker 1: nervous about that and you behave in a nervous way
Speaker 1: and you make decisions based on that fear is you're
Speaker 1: writing your own destiny. Yeah, absolutely, so you're doing this
Speaker 1: for yourself, right, But you're also doing it for other women.
Speaker 1: I mean it started as something that was personal. You
Speaker 1: saw you saw this like epiphany moment, right, And then
Speaker 1: the story itself starts with my own journey to learn
Speaker 1: to advocate for myself and how bad I was at
Speaker 1: it despite the success I'd had. I think we all are.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we're all bad at it, and um,
Speaker 1: the audience is that I reach when I when I
Speaker 1: do a workshop event know your Value event, I usually
Speaker 1: have a room about five to seven hundred women from
Speaker 1: corporate vice presidents CEOs down to people at the very bottom,
Speaker 1: working in trenches or unemployed, and they all are nodding
Speaker 1: their heads about the same lessons we teach and tips
Speaker 1: we give and advice that we hand out. Because I
Speaker 1: do think this is kind of a very innate issue
Speaker 1: that is going to be something that if women want
Speaker 1: to know their value and they want to communicate it effectively,
Speaker 1: they're going to have to work very hard on it.
Speaker 1: What do you think the future of women in media is.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a really interesting time, and especially news
Speaker 1: journalism on air TV, talent, news anchors, those types of things.
Speaker 1: One of the things we're always baffled by when we
Speaker 1: walk into many rooms, there's a lot of fabulous women
Speaker 1: that we meet along the way that are some of
Speaker 1: the most creative and inspired and passionate women in advertising
Speaker 1: marketing media. And we often find that when you start
Speaker 1: getting to the top, especially when it comes to talent
Speaker 1: conversations or it comes to executive decisions, the numbers start
Speaker 1: to thin out. Um very few times do we walk
Speaker 1: into rooms where there's big female executives. I mean the
Speaker 1: chairwoman of and I say chairwoman Lindi Acarino of your
Speaker 1: network as someone who, aside from her shoes, she's one
Speaker 1: of the most fiercest women I know in the industry.
Speaker 1: But you don't see it as often as you like.
Speaker 1: Right until Alexas point like, where do you see women
Speaker 1: playing a stronger role? Well, I think I see them
Speaker 1: as they learn to leverage their value with their with
Speaker 1: their words and actions, as opposed to let it being
Speaker 1: leverage for themselves or letting the decisions being made for themselves.
Speaker 1: I think we'll see more more women rise to the top.
Speaker 1: But it starts with a voice. It starts with understanding
Speaker 1: what it is that you need. It starts with knowing
Speaker 1: it's okay to ask It starts with knowing that it's
Speaker 1: okay if you don't get it and you have to
Speaker 1: go somewhere else. Like I think, we personalize a lot
Speaker 1: of things, and we take offense to a lot of things,
Speaker 1: and we take inwardly a lot of the problems that
Speaker 1: we confront at work. And what I'm trying to do
Speaker 1: with the Know your Value UH brand and message and
Speaker 1: an actual playbook and workshops is teach women to understand
Speaker 1: the first thing you can do is start talking to
Speaker 1: your employer about all the issues that you're confronting. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just went through UM a workshop that we did
Speaker 1: for Comcast, and we did financial management. We people raising
Speaker 1: their hands talking about the debt they were in talking
Speaker 1: about not understanding how to put away money and exactly
Speaker 1: we were answering the most personal financial questions ever and
Speaker 1: we got them to ask which is which was the
Speaker 1: permission that Know your Value gives women. I hate to
Speaker 1: call it permission, because no one's holding you back except
Speaker 1: for you, okay, And we need to teach you to
Speaker 1: get up under the lights and negotiate for yourself. And
Speaker 1: I say under the lights because at my events I
Speaker 1: actually have normal women who really struggle with their value,
Speaker 1: make iPhone videos talking about the value that they bring
Speaker 1: to the table, whether it be at home, at work,
Speaker 1: at a part time job, looking for jobs, whatever. Who
Speaker 1: are you? What is it that you bring to the table?
Speaker 1: Put it into words and put it on an iPhone
Speaker 1: video and send it in by the way, Realize how
Speaker 1: many times you delete that because you're terrible at it?
Speaker 1: And get better. And we pick five finalists and we
Speaker 1: made them even more better and taught them what they're
Speaker 1: looking for and asked them what is it the message
Speaker 1: they want to send. What is it that they want
Speaker 1: to get back and return? What is it they're looking for,
Speaker 1: what's their backstory that they can bring to the table
Speaker 1: and off. In many cases, the pictures that we saw
Speaker 1: on stage were completely different than the pictures we saw
Speaker 1: in the iPhone video after really bringing out the essence
Speaker 1: of who that person was and teaching them to communicate
Speaker 1: it effectively, not just with the stories they tell and
Speaker 1: the words they bring to the table, but their voice,
Speaker 1: their posture, what they put on that day, how it feels,
Speaker 1: and how they present. And those things are hard. They
Speaker 1: seem simple, they're really hard. You put someone out of
Speaker 1: the lights and you make them compete. And that is
Speaker 1: what a negotiation or an important meeting with your boss
Speaker 1: feels like. You are. Yeah, it's the same raw kind
Speaker 1: of oh feeling like oh my god, I guy, I
Speaker 1: can't ask, I can't well, and also like I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wing it. I'll just go in there and
Speaker 1: I'll ask them for this, this, and this. No, you
Speaker 1: can't do that. You actually need to prepare for this meeting,
Speaker 1: and you need to prepare for every part of it.
Speaker 1: You need to prepare for how it's gonna feel, how
Speaker 1: awkward it is. How about doing some rolepill playing with someone,
Speaker 1: prepare for every potential What exactly are you are you
Speaker 1: going to say when you make that ask? This is
Speaker 1: going to be the difference between women leaving because they
Speaker 1: don't think they can get what they want and companies
Speaker 1: being able to retain great talent because they simply can
Speaker 1: give them what they want, which might be really easy
Speaker 1: at times. Women leaving versus women leading. That is my
Speaker 1: new tex very good. That's like I like that for me.
Speaker 1: What's really interesting is you said early on, and it
Speaker 1: was the question we wanted to ask you, is that
Speaker 1: men actually play a really important role in how we
Speaker 1: think of ourselves in emulating them. You said that early on,
Speaker 1: and I think that's really important. Like, how have men
Speaker 1: played a role in your career path? How have you learned?
Speaker 1: I know, you know, you're really good friends with Joe.
Speaker 1: He's been hugely supportive, you know. Yeah, he has no
Speaker 1: Actually with the negotiation of my salary. I went back
Speaker 1: to him several times after going in there, and I
Speaker 1: love this story going to what he likes. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I will. But let me back up, and just like
Speaker 1: when this all began and we were actually negotiating our
Speaker 1: very first morning Joe contracts. I was such a girl.
Speaker 1: And Willie and Joe were men negotiating their contracts. So
Speaker 1: I would be like waiting for my phone to ring,
Speaker 1: waiting for my phone to ring. Oh my god, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Oh my god. Am I gonna get the job?
Speaker 1: I'm freelance. I'm gonna get the job. I hope. I
Speaker 1: pray to God I'm back. Oh my god, I hope.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, my phone ran. Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: pretty deleted it. Oh my god. So and then William
Speaker 1: Joe Joe be like, now on this podcast, is there
Speaker 1: what's the FCC rules here on Joe be like, you
Speaker 1: know what, go fun yourself, okay, and then Nika doing
Speaker 1: an impression of Joe and then even hang up and
Speaker 1: I'd be like, was that her boss? He'd be like,
Speaker 1: but you just said that to And I'm like shaking
Speaker 1: for his behavior. What's wrong with that? There's so much
Speaker 1: wrong but that's not even funny. And at the time
Speaker 1: I didn't know there's anything wrong with that. I was like,
Speaker 1: really like, what's wrong with Joe? Meanwhile, I'm like, where
Speaker 1: do I signs that? My name right here? Let me
Speaker 1: sign it four times for you, and please don't pay
Speaker 1: me enough. I mean, it was unbelievable. I was fully responsible.
Speaker 1: How many years ago was that? Uh nine? How much
Speaker 1: have you grown into or you're blessing them around now?
Speaker 1: Because that's how That was the funniest thing about it
Speaker 1: all and kind of sad. And the thing about women
Speaker 1: is I was running the show. I was booking the show.
Speaker 1: I was holding the show together. I was the I
Speaker 1: was the glue of the show. I worked as much
Speaker 1: as William Joe more and I did not. But I
Speaker 1: was not able to communicate for myself, and I was
Speaker 1: too scared to take a risk and say you know what,
Speaker 1: go go stick it. I'm not coming unless you guys
Speaker 1: pay me. This is a good show. By the way,
Speaker 1: I knew it was a good show. I was becoming like, um,
Speaker 1: a bigger uh you know deal in this business than
Speaker 1: I ever have in my life. And I could see
Speaker 1: it happening in real time and I didn't even think
Speaker 1: to leverage it. And you felt it inside grateful to
Speaker 1: be there, just amazing. I would I would love to
Speaker 1: ask Joe, what did you feel? I bet grateful? Would
Speaker 1: it be in the top ten choice of trust me?
Speaker 1: It was not. He's like, they're lucky to have me,
Speaker 1: And I should have thought that too about myself, because
Speaker 1: they were. They had a big problem on their hands
Speaker 1: and our show was fixing it. Why do we one
Speaker 1: of the things that I think you're instilling and I
Speaker 1: think a lot of Maybe it's the result of the election,
Speaker 1: Maybe it's part of the women's movement, all this sort
Speaker 1: of stuff. Alex and I are always grateful, This is
Speaker 1: the right time to use that word for one another,
Speaker 1: and having there's moments when I feel like I'm having
Speaker 1: that kind of day and Alex is like, tell them
Speaker 1: to go funk themselves or she's having that moment, I'm like,
Speaker 1: remember who you are. How do you see today? Post election?
Speaker 1: The rise of what we feel is intergenerational. It's not
Speaker 1: just about being a mentor, but it's about pulling each
Speaker 1: other together by the bootstraps and saying, get your ship together.
Speaker 1: We're in this for the long haul. How do you
Speaker 1: see that community? You know? I think that's gonna I
Speaker 1: I witness and I'm writing two books aboutter and I'm
Speaker 1: witnessing a sea change about women helping each other and
Speaker 1: pulling together as exactly where it's at. I don't get mentors.
Speaker 1: I don't get the mentor thing. People who are your mentors?
Speaker 1: A lot of people mentors. I barely survived myself. Some
Speaker 1: of the most successful women, some of the most successful
Speaker 1: women have said that recently, like because there was like
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't have time to I mean,
Speaker 1: but also I help a lot of people around me,
Speaker 1: whoever they are, I help them. I help women wherever
Speaker 1: I can go. But I don't consider myself a mentor.
Speaker 1: I consider myself sharing as much as possible and getting
Speaker 1: it done. I don't I don't get the whole mentor.
Speaker 1: I guess there are mentorships that are valuable, but it
Speaker 1: is never really worked in my world. Pulling together very different.
Speaker 1: I think we see each other's value in a way
Speaker 1: that twenty years ago it was a dynamic that simply
Speaker 1: didn't exist. We were horrible to each other. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm almost fifty. I started this when I was in
Speaker 1: my late teens. Let me just tell you it's different
Speaker 1: now than it was back then. We're not nice to
Speaker 1: each other. Back then, and we wanted to be the
Speaker 1: only woman in the room. And now I'm looking in
Speaker 1: a room with people. I'd want to work with you.
Speaker 1: I'd want to work with you. I did. I would.
Speaker 1: I would feel I can get I get you get it.
Speaker 1: And I actually had that experience with you and I.
Speaker 1: You know, gosh, back when I was starting out, I
Speaker 1: just felt like I had to survive the women around me.
Speaker 1: But anyhow, Mica, shifting gears, I think one of the things.
Speaker 1: And we'll just go into your your news world. Um,
Speaker 1: how do you see the democratization of news becoming more important?
Speaker 1: You know? You you sit up there every day and
Speaker 1: we always admire We talk about this all the time. Damn,
Speaker 1: she's good sitting up there with general Um. But more
Speaker 1: so our question goes into as more and more people
Speaker 1: are rise through the ranks, as these sort of credible
Speaker 1: voices with journalistic integrity coming from different places. I mean,
Speaker 1: you said it again, you said it earlier. You're like
Speaker 1: TV who knows what's going to happen, right and planning
Speaker 1: for the future, like as this kind of sea of
Speaker 1: change happens where people are reporting live on Facebook and
Speaker 1: and they're not necessarily like trained anchors, right, Like, does
Speaker 1: that become confusing? Thing? Does that like what you know?
Speaker 1: That look like? I think it's very messy. I think
Speaker 1: it's very disruptive. And I think that over time, competition
Speaker 1: will bring the right voices to the four and but
Speaker 1: it will look very different, and it should. I mean,
Speaker 1: we're not going to ever go back to three networks
Speaker 1: going on TV at six pm. You know, We're just not.
Speaker 1: It's different. It's everywhere, and it's voice, and it's credibility,
Speaker 1: and it's the story and it's the person who emerges.
Speaker 1: But that person is going to emerge out of places
Speaker 1: you and I don't even know about right now. And um,
Speaker 1: credibility is going to come in different packages. But you
Speaker 1: know what, you can't beat credibility. You can't pretend to
Speaker 1: be credible. You either will build an empire, a media
Speaker 1: empire that is, and it will run the ship of media,
Speaker 1: or you know, you'll fall apart and explode and become
Speaker 1: fake news. I do believe that the tenants of journalism
Speaker 1: have to be held close, and you know, they're easily
Speaker 1: if someone is not credible or something is fake news,
Speaker 1: it's easily undermined by the system itself. It will be
Speaker 1: very messy for a while. But I think we'll agree
Speaker 1: with that. Well, competition will win. Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 1: Where do you think brands and advertisers can play a
Speaker 1: role like either today? I mean, this is a challenging
Speaker 1: time for brandson advertisers. It was a particular commercial that
Speaker 1: aired of late that caused some some ruffled feathers and
Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about talking about that a
Speaker 1: bit more on our show. But just curious to get
Speaker 1: your perspective on where, Yeah, what Alexa is saying. You know,
Speaker 1: you see brand stepping in, whether it is with no
Speaker 1: your value, whether just quite frankly sharing their values in
Speaker 1: the and also supporting certain talent. I think you know, like,
Speaker 1: what is that? What does that look like from you
Speaker 1: from your I think it's all online. Um, I think
Speaker 1: that's where the money is. Um. And I mean that's
Speaker 1: where everything's going. And you know, boutique branding like our
Speaker 1: show Morning Joe, We we deal. We have a specific audience.
Speaker 1: And even NBC itself is still learning to understand our
Speaker 1: audience and how to appeal to it and sell to it.
Speaker 1: Because they are higher educated there in New York, Washington, Boston,
Speaker 1: l A, Chicago, They're not necessarily the audience that of
Speaker 1: the shows that are on at the same time of
Speaker 1: ours that we compete with. So how do you advertise
Speaker 1: and how do you it's all get your news? Where
Speaker 1: do I get totally gonna ask the same thing. Well,
Speaker 1: I follow on Twitter in the New York Time, Washington Post,
Speaker 1: you know, Politico. Um, and I'm on all day. I'm
Speaker 1: on my phone all day. I do not do Facebook.
Speaker 1: I just can't time, and there's just so many other
Speaker 1: things going on. Um, I need like oh my, So
Speaker 1: I put everything on a Twitter feed that's just serious
Speaker 1: journalism and just read the news as it rolls by
Speaker 1: and then everything is kind of shot at me by
Speaker 1: our staff anyway, So email and you know However, my
Speaker 1: girls are my girl. My girls will send me stuff.
Speaker 1: Where do you see Morning Joe going If it's not
Speaker 1: on air, Oh my god. Um, if it wasn't, If
Speaker 1: it was, you know, I think I could see it
Speaker 1: going global. Um in in a media very kind of
Speaker 1: aggressive media empire that's thinking that way. And we've we've
Speaker 1: talked before about that that could happen. Um. It's just
Speaker 1: a couple of conversations we had over the years that
Speaker 1: it would. It would have a platform that's and you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's good or bad for it.
Speaker 1: I know that would be very good for know your
Speaker 1: Value someday to go global because there are there are
Speaker 1: countries that are already reaching out on that brand. Um.
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