1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm off my game today. No, you're not. People are 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: going to have to start making better content. I think 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about this for a long time. 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: When you program for everyone, you program for no one. 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: I think it's a word purpose driven platform. Like we're 6 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: trying to get to substance? How was that? Are you 7 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: happy with that? This is marketing therapy right now? And 8 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: it really is? What's up on? Laura Currunti and I'm 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Alexa Kristen. Welcome to a special Women Wednesday exclusive interview 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: featuring the one and only Miss Miko Prasinski. Mika is 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: a co host of Morning Joe on MSNBC and really 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: started a movement because she had a moment in her 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: life and realized that she wanted to have a purpose 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: driven career to help other women know their value. Yeah. 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: And while Alex, I mean we were originally enamored with 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: her as a woman in media, I think what we 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: found over the course of getting to know Mika and 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: her story is actually what's it's beneath the surface or 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: behind the esk, or maybe not behind the desk, maybe 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: on the other side of the desk. Um is that 21 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: Mika's experience things that are constant conversations that we have 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: as professionals, and one that we find a lot of 23 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: our friends having to in terms of knowing their value 24 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,279 Speaker 1: and understanding how they evolve as a brand in the market. Also, 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: I think what she says, and you'll hear this really interesting, 26 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: is like, well, you have to have more than maybe 27 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: just this right this being one thing, um, because you 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen, especially in the media 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:37,919 Speaker 1: and marketing space, like technology disrupt, networks change, there's acquisitions 30 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: and mergers happening all the time, and without knowing your 31 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: purpose to your point, you know, you have to understand 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: how do you evolve as your own brand. And there's 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: so much of this going on, especially in the marketing world, 34 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: where you're starting to see cmos jumping out and branding themselves, um, 35 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: beyond just their business and starting to become influencers and 36 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: movers and shakers that stand for something. And this doesn't 37 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: just apply, by the way, to our industry. I think 38 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: that what we recognize, whether that's in news, whether that's 39 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: in fine education, finance, Yeah, there's opportunity to find what 40 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: it is that moves you and and reach out and 41 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: do it. Right and find the white space. And so 42 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: I think Mika story was one that we wanted to 43 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: drop as a special episode. I hope you enjoy it. Enjoy. 44 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: We are so excited to be in the booth today 45 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: with the one and only Mika Brazinski. Hi, how are 46 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: you guys? Doing good? Mica? Everyone? For those of you 47 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: who don't know, and if you don't, well you should, 48 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: you should. Mica is the co host of MSNBC's Morning 49 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: Joe weekdays six to nine am, and also the founder 50 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: of the Know Your Value movement. Welcome to the show. 51 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. My God, I'm excited, We're excited. Nervous. 52 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: You made me think? Really, yeah, we made you nervy. Yep, 53 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: that is an honor. Yeah, I always just in it. 54 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell everybody that I was actually going to 55 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: ask you, like you ever get nervous? I get very nervous. 56 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: I get nervous during things like this um when it's 57 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: intimate and personal and speaking in front of actual crowds. 58 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: But I love being on TV. I could do that forever. 59 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: I sweat in front of crowds. I get flop sweat 60 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: down my back. But I think, is it more like excitement, 61 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: like anxious nervousness. It's a mixture of being nervous and 62 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: feeling like everyone's looking at me and I've done something 63 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: dramatically wrong before I even open my mouth. Mixture of 64 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: anxiety to do the right thing and to say the 65 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: right thing and to get it all right, and then 66 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: a mixture of excitement too. Do you talk about that? 67 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: And Okay, so we're gonna go into like you're this 68 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: amazing New York Times best selling writer. You have started 69 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: this movement about women knowing their value by growing their value, Yes, 70 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: I have. Do you think that men actually get nervous 71 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: the same way women get nervous? Like they don't, And 72 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: they have a lot of qualities that we need to emulate, 73 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: Like they are incredibly they are ridiculously overconfident that they 74 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: are um. They lie, They lie like rugs. They don't 75 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: even know they're lying. When they're negotiating, they lie unbelievably 76 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: and they have no idea they're doing it. They don't 77 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: remember anything, right, they forget everything. And that's an incredible 78 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: quality too, that helps them succeed professionally. So it's like 79 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: men the first ephemeral media brand, right, It's also could 80 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: feel like couples counseling right now, there's a lot of 81 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: indicative of the conversation I had at my dinner table 82 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: last night. Anyhow, So your brand, Mika Prasinski brand, we're 83 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: really curious to understand coming out of CBS obviously now 84 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: on NBC and growing up in the world of journalism 85 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: now sort of spreading your wings into media company owner 86 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: for all intents and purposes. Can you talk to us 87 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: a little bit about what that looks like from a 88 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: vision standpoint and where you see no your value going. Yeah, 89 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: when I was in you know, when I was fourteen 90 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: years old, I wanted to be in in a TV 91 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: news reporter. So I was very focused from the get go, 92 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: and I started working at like the local cable Fairfax 93 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: Cable Access. I did a TV show when I was 94 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: sixteen called Eminem's Mika and Melissa Show, and we looked 95 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: at like teen issues. We made an open drive in 96 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: my truck and like it was, you know, the beginning 97 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: of you know, someone who was very focused on having 98 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: a career in television. I worked at the networks and 99 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: at local affiliates as interns during summers for free. When 100 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: I was in college. I did a TV show on 101 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: the cable access uh TV channel in North Adams, Massachusetts, 102 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: on the issue of teen pregnancy because at that time 103 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: North Adams had the highest rate of teen pregnancy in 104 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: the country. From then on, I worked my way up, 105 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: had kids, got married, but continued to really drive at 106 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: that career all the way to CBS News and sixteen Minutes, 107 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: and at the height of it, I had two kids. 108 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: I was able to bring them to work with me 109 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: at times. I had really successfully navigated conflating in a 110 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: positive way family and work, and I thought I really 111 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: had it down when I was anchoring the Sunday Evening 112 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: News on CBS and one of my kids was under 113 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: the desk and quiet, by the way, which was amazing 114 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: given the child that she was um And I also 115 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: had a contract to be a contributor to sixty Minutes 116 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: and that was kind of like the plum girl job 117 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: of CBS at the time. And a year later, Dan 118 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: Rather was taken down because of memo gade management was 119 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: swept out and about six months after that, Katie Kuric 120 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: was hired, and four days later it was called down 121 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: to the President's office and I was fired on the spot, um, 122 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: and I walked out of there very um heartbroken and 123 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: stunned and shocked. Uh, my idea nity had been just 124 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: swallowed out of me, taken away, sucked out of me, 125 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: just just in a in a poof, and a lot 126 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: of friends disappeared, which is interesting too. Um. So to 127 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: answer your question about where I go moving forward, I 128 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: did kind of climb back into t VS right at 129 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: the bottom. But I always thought, you know, we get 130 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: fired from these jobs. These jobs come and go, ratings 131 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: come and go. Jobs and TV are just not the future. 132 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be I'm almost forty at the time. 133 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm almost fifty now, and I need to figure out 134 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: what this all, what I can do with this, what 135 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: something good? And that's when I wrote the book Knowing 136 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: Your Value a couple of years later, and it really 137 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: kind of exploded in my face. I mean, the book 138 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: was a bestseller. Women were coming up to me from 139 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: all over the place saying, I read your book. I 140 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: gotta raise, I read your book, I gotta raise. I 141 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 1: read your book. I got the leave that I wanted 142 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: to read your book, and I figured out my job 143 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: and all walks of life. And that's what I realized 144 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna do after TV. That's what I'm 145 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: gonna do. It's not awesome feeling when you finally realize 146 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: you're in control of that destiny. Lax and I have 147 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: had this conversation many times about the impetus for this 148 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: podcast and knowing what you're passionate about and you love 149 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: and there's nothing that's good and it's so passionate using 150 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: your voice for it, and it makes it the job 151 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: actually more secure because honestly, if I if I if 152 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: my TV job goes away, and boy, I've seen it happen. 153 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: I've seen my TV job go away in the snap. Uh, 154 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: this is what I'm gonna do, and I'm building it now, 155 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: but it would, it would happen regardless of the TV job, 156 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: and it sort of makes everything that I do have 157 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: perspective and I do it better because those TV jobs, 158 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: when you know that they could go away at the 159 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: at the click of a switch, you kind of are 160 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: nervous about that and you behave in a nervous way 161 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: and you make decisions based on that fear is you're 162 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: writing your own destiny. Yeah, absolutely, so you're doing this 163 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: for yourself, right, But you're also doing it for other women. 164 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: I mean it started as something that was personal. You 165 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: saw you saw this like epiphany moment, right, And then 166 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: the story itself starts with my own journey to learn 167 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: to advocate for myself and how bad I was at 168 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: it despite the success I'd had. I think we all are. 169 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we're all bad at it, and um, 170 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: the audience is that I reach when I when I 171 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: do a workshop event know your Value event, I usually 172 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: have a room about five to seven hundred women from 173 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: corporate vice presidents CEOs down to people at the very bottom, 174 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: working in trenches or unemployed, and they all are nodding 175 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: their heads about the same lessons we teach and tips 176 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: we give and advice that we hand out. Because I 177 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: do think this is kind of a very innate issue 178 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: that is going to be something that if women want 179 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: to know their value and they want to communicate it effectively, 180 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: they're going to have to work very hard on it. 181 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: What do you think the future of women in media is. 182 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a really interesting time, and especially news 183 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: journalism on air TV, talent, news anchors, those types of things. 184 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: One of the things we're always baffled by when we 185 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: walk into many rooms, there's a lot of fabulous women 186 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: that we meet along the way that are some of 187 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:23,239 Speaker 1: the most creative and inspired and passionate women in advertising 188 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: marketing media. And we often find that when you start 189 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: getting to the top, especially when it comes to talent 190 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: conversations or it comes to executive decisions, the numbers start 191 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: to thin out. Um very few times do we walk 192 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: into rooms where there's big female executives. I mean the 193 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: chairwoman of and I say chairwoman Lindi Acarino of your 194 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: network as someone who, aside from her shoes, she's one 195 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: of the most fiercest women I know in the industry. 196 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: But you don't see it as often as you like. 197 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: Right until Alexas point like, where do you see women 198 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: playing a stronger role? Well, I think I see them 199 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: as they learn to leverage their value with their with 200 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: their words and actions, as opposed to let it being 201 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: leverage for themselves or letting the decisions being made for themselves. 202 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: I think we'll see more more women rise to the top. 203 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: But it starts with a voice. It starts with understanding 204 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: what it is that you need. It starts with knowing 205 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: it's okay to ask It starts with knowing that it's 206 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: okay if you don't get it and you have to 207 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: go somewhere else. Like I think, we personalize a lot 208 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: of things, and we take offense to a lot of things, 209 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: and we take inwardly a lot of the problems that 210 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: we confront at work. And what I'm trying to do 211 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: with the Know your Value UH brand and message and 212 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: an actual playbook and workshops is teach women to understand 213 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: the first thing you can do is start talking to 214 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: your employer about all the issues that you're confronting. I mean, 215 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: I just went through UM a workshop that we did 216 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: for Comcast, and we did financial management. We people raising 217 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: their hands talking about the debt they were in talking 218 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: about not understanding how to put away money and exactly 219 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: we were answering the most personal financial questions ever and 220 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: we got them to ask which is which was the 221 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: permission that Know your Value gives women. I hate to 222 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: call it permission, because no one's holding you back except 223 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: for you, okay, And we need to teach you to 224 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,599 Speaker 1: get up under the lights and negotiate for yourself. And 225 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: I say under the lights because at my events I 226 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: actually have normal women who really struggle with their value, 227 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: make iPhone videos talking about the value that they bring 228 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: to the table, whether it be at home, at work, 229 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: at a part time job, looking for jobs, whatever. Who 230 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: are you? What is it that you bring to the table? 231 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: Put it into words and put it on an iPhone 232 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: video and send it in by the way, Realize how 233 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: many times you delete that because you're terrible at it? 234 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: And get better. And we pick five finalists and we 235 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: made them even more better and taught them what they're 236 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: looking for and asked them what is it the message 237 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: they want to send. What is it that they want 238 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: to get back and return? What is it they're looking for, 239 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: what's their backstory that they can bring to the table 240 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: and off. In many cases, the pictures that we saw 241 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: on stage were completely different than the pictures we saw 242 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: in the iPhone video after really bringing out the essence 243 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 1: of who that person was and teaching them to communicate 244 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: it effectively, not just with the stories they tell and 245 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: the words they bring to the table, but their voice, 246 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: their posture, what they put on that day, how it feels, 247 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: and how they present. And those things are hard. They 248 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: seem simple, they're really hard. You put someone out of 249 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: the lights and you make them compete. And that is 250 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: what a negotiation or an important meeting with your boss 251 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: feels like. You are. Yeah, it's the same raw kind 252 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: of oh feeling like oh my god, I guy, I 253 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: can't ask, I can't well, and also like I think 254 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wing it. I'll just go in there and 255 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: I'll ask them for this, this, and this. No, you 256 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: can't do that. You actually need to prepare for this meeting, 257 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: and you need to prepare for every part of it. 258 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: You need to prepare for how it's gonna feel, how 259 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: awkward it is. How about doing some rolepill playing with someone, 260 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,079 Speaker 1: prepare for every potential What exactly are you are you 261 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: going to say when you make that ask? This is 262 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: going to be the difference between women leaving because they 263 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: don't think they can get what they want and companies 264 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: being able to retain great talent because they simply can 265 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: give them what they want, which might be really easy 266 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: at times. Women leaving versus women leading. That is my 267 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: new tex very good. That's like I like that for me. 268 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: What's really interesting is you said early on, and it 269 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: was the question we wanted to ask you, is that 270 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: men actually play a really important role in how we 271 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: think of ourselves in emulating them. You said that early on, 272 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: and I think that's really important. Like, how have men 273 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: played a role in your career path? How have you learned? 274 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: I know, you know, you're really good friends with Joe. 275 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: He's been hugely supportive, you know. Yeah, he has no 276 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: Actually with the negotiation of my salary. I went back 277 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: to him several times after going in there, and I 278 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: love this story going to what he likes. But yeah, 279 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: I will. But let me back up, and just like 280 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: when this all began and we were actually negotiating our 281 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: very first morning Joe contracts. I was such a girl. 282 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: And Willie and Joe were men negotiating their contracts. So 283 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: I would be like waiting for my phone to ring, 284 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: waiting for my phone to ring. Oh my god, Oh 285 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: my god, Oh my god. Am I gonna get the job? 286 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: I'm freelance. I'm gonna get the job. I hope. I 287 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: pray to God I'm back. Oh my god, I hope. 288 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, my phone ran. Oh my god, I 289 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: pretty deleted it. Oh my god. So and then William 290 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: Joe Joe be like, now on this podcast, is there 291 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: what's the FCC rules here on Joe be like, you 292 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: know what, go fun yourself, okay, and then Nika doing 293 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: an impression of Joe and then even hang up and 294 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: I'd be like, was that her boss? He'd be like, 295 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: but you just said that to And I'm like shaking 296 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: for his behavior. What's wrong with that? There's so much 297 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: wrong but that's not even funny. And at the time 298 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: I didn't know there's anything wrong with that. I was like, 299 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: really like, what's wrong with Joe? Meanwhile, I'm like, where 300 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: do I signs that? My name right here? Let me 301 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: sign it four times for you, and please don't pay 302 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: me enough. I mean, it was unbelievable. I was fully responsible. 303 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: How many years ago was that? Uh nine? How much 304 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: have you grown into or you're blessing them around now? 305 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: Because that's how That was the funniest thing about it 306 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: all and kind of sad. And the thing about women 307 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: is I was running the show. I was booking the show. 308 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: I was holding the show together. I was the I 309 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: was the glue of the show. I worked as much 310 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: as William Joe more and I did not. But I 311 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: was not able to communicate for myself, and I was 312 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: too scared to take a risk and say you know what, 313 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: go go stick it. I'm not coming unless you guys 314 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: pay me. This is a good show. By the way, 315 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: I knew it was a good show. I was becoming like, um, 316 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: a bigger uh you know deal in this business than 317 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: I ever have in my life. And I could see 318 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: it happening in real time and I didn't even think 319 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: to leverage it. And you felt it inside grateful to 320 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: be there, just amazing. I would I would love to 321 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: ask Joe, what did you feel? I bet grateful? Would 322 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: it be in the top ten choice of trust me? 323 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: It was not. He's like, they're lucky to have me, 324 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: And I should have thought that too about myself, because 325 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: they were. They had a big problem on their hands 326 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: and our show was fixing it. Why do we one 327 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: of the things that I think you're instilling and I 328 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: think a lot of Maybe it's the result of the election, 329 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: Maybe it's part of the women's movement, all this sort 330 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: of stuff. Alex and I are always grateful, This is 331 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: the right time to use that word for one another, 332 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: and having there's moments when I feel like I'm having 333 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: that kind of day and Alex is like, tell them 334 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: to go funk themselves or she's having that moment, I'm like, 335 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: remember who you are. How do you see today? Post election? 336 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 1: The rise of what we feel is intergenerational. It's not 337 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: just about being a mentor, but it's about pulling each 338 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: other together by the bootstraps and saying, get your ship together. 339 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: We're in this for the long haul. How do you 340 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: see that community? You know? I think that's gonna I 341 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: I witness and I'm writing two books aboutter and I'm 342 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: witnessing a sea change about women helping each other and 343 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: pulling together as exactly where it's at. I don't get mentors. 344 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: I don't get the mentor thing. People who are your mentors? 345 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: A lot of people mentors. I barely survived myself. Some 346 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: of the most successful women, some of the most successful 347 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: women have said that recently, like because there was like 348 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: I feel like I don't have time to I mean, 349 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: but also I help a lot of people around me, 350 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: whoever they are, I help them. I help women wherever 351 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: I can go. But I don't consider myself a mentor. 352 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: I consider myself sharing as much as possible and getting 353 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 1: it done. I don't I don't get the whole mentor. 354 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: I guess there are mentorships that are valuable, but it 355 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: is never really worked in my world. Pulling together very different. 356 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 1: I think we see each other's value in a way 357 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: that twenty years ago it was a dynamic that simply 358 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: didn't exist. We were horrible to each other. Um. You know, 359 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm almost fifty. I started this when I was in 360 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: my late teens. Let me just tell you it's different 361 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: now than it was back then. We're not nice to 362 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: each other. Back then, and we wanted to be the 363 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: only woman in the room. And now I'm looking in 364 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: a room with people. I'd want to work with you. 365 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: I'd want to work with you. I did. I would. 366 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 1: I would feel I can get I get you get it. 367 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: And I actually had that experience with you and I. 368 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: You know, gosh, back when I was starting out, I 369 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: just felt like I had to survive the women around me. 370 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: But anyhow, Mica, shifting gears, I think one of the things. 371 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: And we'll just go into your your news world. Um, 372 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: how do you see the democratization of news becoming more important? 373 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: You know? You you sit up there every day and 374 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: we always admire We talk about this all the time. Damn, 375 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: she's good sitting up there with general Um. But more 376 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: so our question goes into as more and more people 377 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: are rise through the ranks, as these sort of credible 378 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: voices with journalistic integrity coming from different places. I mean, 379 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: you said it again, you said it earlier. You're like 380 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: TV who knows what's going to happen, right and planning 381 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: for the future, like as this kind of sea of 382 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: change happens where people are reporting live on Facebook and 383 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: and they're not necessarily like trained anchors, right, Like, does 384 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: that become confusing? Thing? Does that like what you know? 385 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: That look like? I think it's very messy. I think 386 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: it's very disruptive. And I think that over time, competition 387 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: will bring the right voices to the four and but 388 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: it will look very different, and it should. I mean, 389 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: we're not going to ever go back to three networks 390 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: going on TV at six pm. You know, We're just not. 391 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: It's different. It's everywhere, and it's voice, and it's credibility, 392 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: and it's the story and it's the person who emerges. 393 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: But that person is going to emerge out of places 394 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: you and I don't even know about right now. And um, 395 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: credibility is going to come in different packages. But you 396 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: know what, you can't beat credibility. You can't pretend to 397 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: be credible. You either will build an empire, a media 398 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: empire that is, and it will run the ship of media, 399 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: or you know, you'll fall apart and explode and become 400 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: fake news. I do believe that the tenants of journalism 401 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: have to be held close, and you know, they're easily 402 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: if someone is not credible or something is fake news, 403 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: it's easily undermined by the system itself. It will be 404 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: very messy for a while. But I think we'll agree 405 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: with that. Well, competition will win. Yeah, I agree with that. 406 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: Where do you think brands and advertisers can play a 407 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: role like either today? I mean, this is a challenging 408 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: time for brandson advertisers. It was a particular commercial that 409 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: aired of late that caused some some ruffled feathers and 410 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about talking about that a 411 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: bit more on our show. But just curious to get 412 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: your perspective on where, Yeah, what Alexa is saying. You know, 413 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: you see brand stepping in, whether it is with no 414 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: your value, whether just quite frankly sharing their values in 415 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 1: the and also supporting certain talent. I think you know, like, 416 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: what is that? What does that look like from you 417 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: from your I think it's all online. Um, I think 418 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: that's where the money is. Um. And I mean that's 419 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: where everything's going. And you know, boutique branding like our 420 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: show Morning Joe, We we deal. We have a specific audience. 421 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:26,239 Speaker 1: And even NBC itself is still learning to understand our 422 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: audience and how to appeal to it and sell to it. 423 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: Because they are higher educated there in New York, Washington, Boston, 424 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: l A, Chicago, They're not necessarily the audience that of 425 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: the shows that are on at the same time of 426 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: ours that we compete with. So how do you advertise 427 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: and how do you it's all get your news? Where 428 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: do I get totally gonna ask the same thing. Well, 429 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: I follow on Twitter in the New York Time, Washington Post, 430 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, Politico. Um, and I'm on all day. I'm 431 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: on my phone all day. I do not do Facebook. 432 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: I just can't time, and there's just so many other 433 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: things going on. Um, I need like oh my, So 434 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: I put everything on a Twitter feed that's just serious 435 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: journalism and just read the news as it rolls by 436 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: and then everything is kind of shot at me by 437 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: our staff anyway, So email and you know However, my 438 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: girls are my girl. My girls will send me stuff. 439 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: Where do you see Morning Joe going If it's not 440 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: on air, Oh my god. Um, if it wasn't, If 441 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: it was, you know, I think I could see it 442 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: going global. Um in in a media very kind of 443 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: aggressive media empire that's thinking that way. And we've we've 444 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: talked before about that that could happen. Um. It's just 445 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: a couple of conversations we had over the years that 446 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: it would. It would have a platform that's and you know, 447 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's good or bad for it. 448 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: I know that would be very good for know your 449 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: Value someday to go global because there are there are 450 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: countries that are already reaching out on that brand. Um. 451 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: But from Morning Joe, where we really get Washington, we 452 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: really understand what's going to happen next. You must watch 453 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: and everybody around the world wants to know about that. So, um, 454 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: I could see it being somewhere online around the world. Wow, 455 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: going global. Thank you, Thank you so much for spending 456 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: the time with us. So that wraps our special Women 457 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: Crush Wednesday edition of at Landia. Thanks Mika present Ski. 458 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: Thank you at Morning Mika on Twitter. You can also 459 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: watch Mika every weekday from six and nine a m. 460 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 1: On MSNBC's Morning Joe. Don't forget to pick up her 461 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: two books coming out later this fall on millennials and 462 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: career reentry. And if you want to know more about 463 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: knowing your value, go to k y V dot com. 464 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: Thanks at Landia will be back with our regular episodes 465 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: next Tuesday. Full Disclosure. Our opinions are our own