1 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back to wellness. I'm mass I'm doctor Nipole Staffire, 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm a. 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: Mom, I'm a posian, and not only do I diagnose 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: breast cancer as my day job, I'm also an advocate 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: for my patients. And that's honestly how I've gotten involved 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: into health policy on TV and even this podcast, because 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: I truly believe that patients know their body better than 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: anyone else, and I want to make sure people are 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: listening to them well. October is Breast cancer Awareness Month, 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: and this year those pick ribbids carry urgency because the 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: numbers are shifting in unsettling ways. Breast cancer cases are 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: on the rise, and I'm not talking about our grandmas 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: or our great grandmas. I'm talking about younger women getting 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: breast cancer. Over the past decade, incidents in women under 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: fifty has climbed over one point four percent every single year. 16 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: Among women ages twenty to forty nine, a recent study 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: showed invasive breast cancer rates increasing nearly one percent annually, 18 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: even steeper rises since twenty thirteen. Now, I know those 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: numbers may sound small to you, but one to two 20 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: percent we're talking thousands more people being diagnosed with breast 21 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: cancer What's more, younger women tend to face more aggressive 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 2: disease and unfortunately, a worse prognosis when they're diagnosed. Now, 23 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: these trends underscore an uncomfortable truth. Breast cancer is no 24 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: longer a problem that starts later. In that light, I 25 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: am absolutely honored to welcome Tutor Dixon to Wellness Unmass. 26 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: You probably know. 27 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: Her from all of her work. You may have heard 28 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: her on the Clay and Book podcast network as well. 29 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: She's part of the family, but she is first and 30 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: foremost a mom, and she's also a breast cancer survivor. 31 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: Her journey through her diagnosis, treatment and recovery is a 32 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: powerful example of courage, resilience, and now she is being 33 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: an advocate for others. Together, we're going to peel back 34 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: the layers when it comes to early detection, navigating life 35 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: after cancer, and how motherhood and survivorship interweave. Because while 36 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: I can sit and tell you all of the facts 37 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: and statistics about cancer breast cancer as we are in 38 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: Breast Cancer Awareness Month, for me, sometimes I think the 39 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 2: most valuable thing is actually talking. 40 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: To someone who's been through it before. 41 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: Because when you talk about cancer in such a broad term, 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: talking about the statistics and giving some things you can 43 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: do to try and avoid it, try to avoid it 44 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: to happening in the first place, or for coming back 45 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: at the end. 46 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: Of the day. 47 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: By talking to people who have already been through it, 48 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: it humanizes it and almost normalizes it. And so you 49 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: can take that information, that advice and kind of take 50 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: it with you along the way. Because cancer is very common, 51 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: breast cancer, as I've mentioned, one in eight women, so 52 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: invariably you will know someone who is diagnosed. So, Tutor, 53 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: thank you so much for being on today. Would you 54 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 2: mind just talking to us a little bit about when 55 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: you were diagnosed in your story? 56 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, thank you for having me. So I was 57 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: diagnosed in twenty fifteen, August of twenty fifteen, and my 58 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: girls at that point were six' four and then my 59 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: twins were. Two SO i was actually still, breastfeeding just 60 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: going to the doctor's office for a random annual checkup 61 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: and the physician's assistant did my breast exam and she, 62 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: said how long have you had this? Lump THEN i remember, 63 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: THINKING i, Mean i'm. Breastfeeding you, know everything is, different, 64 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: weird and SO i have no idea right exactly Exactly i'm, Like, 65 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: hey who, cares you? Know and so she, SAID i 66 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: think we should get this checked. Out AND i didn't 67 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: think didn't think anything of, it like that was the 68 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: farthest thing from my. Mind and, then you, know the 69 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: crazy thing is BECAUSE i had never considered having cancer. 70 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: Before even after she said, IT i was, Like, ah 71 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: that can't be what cancer feels. Like it just felt 72 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: LIKE i would really, know and it. Wasn't it wasn't 73 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: so pronounced THAT i would have understood that as. Cancer 74 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 3: so THEN i went in for they scheduled me for 75 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 3: a mammogram and an, ultrasound AND i had the mammogram 76 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: and the woman came in and she looked at me 77 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: and she was, like you, know the mammogram is totally. 78 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 3: CLEAR i, mean we don't really need to do this, 79 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: ultrasound but your doctor ordered, it so if you want 80 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: to go ahead and do, it we. Will AND i, said, 81 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 3: YEAH i think we. Should thank GOODNESS i, did because 82 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: we went into the. ULTRASOUND i was, like at the 83 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 3: beginning of the, ultrasound there were like two texts in 84 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: there and the doctor and the two texts were asking, 85 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 3: me how you know how many kids do you have 86 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 3: and what are their. Ages that's so. Exciting, oh what fun? 87 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 3: Ages and then they did the ultrasound and literally the 88 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: whole room, changed And i'm not kidding. You the one 89 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: nurse looked at me and she was, like how many 90 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: kids did you say you? Have AND i was, like, 91 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 3: ooh that was a weird change of. Tone AND i 92 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 3: had no idea what was. Happening and the doctor came 93 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 3: in and he was, like you, know why don't you 94 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: if you have, time why don't you stay and we'll 95 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: do a biopsy right. Now AND i was still kind of, like, 96 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: wow what is, Happening, like they're going to do this. 97 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: Biopsy it's going to be. Fine they're not going to 98 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: see anything. There and they did the biopsy AND i 99 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: still didn't know. That the doctor was just kind of, like, 100 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 3: okay we'll send the results to your doctor and she'll call. 101 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: You so a few days, LATER i went into my 102 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: guynecologist's office and sat down and she, said, well, okay 103 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: so these are the things that we talk about when 104 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 3: we look at. Cancer AND i, said what do you 105 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: mean when we look at? Cancer and she was, like 106 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 3: didn't they tell you when you had the? BIOPSY i 107 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 3: was like, No and then THAT i think that was 108 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: the last THING i heard her. Say. 109 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure first of, all this will be we have 110 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: to talk another time about. THIS i am mortified by 111 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: your entire experience in the way that it was. Handled 112 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: but what you, experienced you, know they're, like, well it's, 113 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: nothing we don't see. It maybe we'll do more, imaging 114 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: maybe we, won't kind of like putting it on you 115 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: to make a, decision which is. Great you always want 116 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: to involve the, patient but come, on, guys like you 117 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: have to take charge there a little. Bit, obviously if 118 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 2: you have someone breastfeeding with a new, lump you always 119 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: would do an. 120 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: Ultrasound but that tone change that you just. 121 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: DESCRIBED i can't tell you how many times people say 122 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: that that. 123 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: Happens to be, HONEST i have. 124 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: Been accused of not having a very good poker face 125 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: myself WHEN i talk to patients about some of their. 126 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 2: Results but you, know as you're, saying you went, in 127 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: in no, way shape or form did you think you 128 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: actually had? Cancer and specifically when it comes to breast, 129 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 2: cancer that's probably one of the most jarring parts because 130 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: you go, in you go in getting your mammogram or 131 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: your ultrasound or YOUR mri and you're completely. 132 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: Healthy you, KNOW i don't feel. Sick, yeah, right. 133 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: Exactly, no that was AND i just said to my 134 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: mom the other day WHEN i would go SO i 135 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: after my cancer, JOURNEY i was kind OF i THINK 136 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: i was atypical BECAUSE i refused to just take the 137 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: first person's word for it as to WHAT i had to. 138 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: DO i went Into Grand. RAPIDS i live In, michigan 139 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 3: SO i went in from WHERE i am To Grand, 140 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: rapids and the first doctor there was, like, yeah so 141 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: we're just going to cut it out On, Tuesday we'll 142 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: just take off both breasts and then you, know you 143 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: can talk about reconstruction after that. Heels AND i was, like, wow, 144 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: wow that sounds really, awful And i'm not sure that 145 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: That's i'm comfortable with. That so THEN i started doing 146 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 3: some research because you, GO i don't like. THAT i 147 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 3: have to figure out if there's another. Option SO i 148 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: went to m D anderson after, that AND i met 149 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: a doctor. There she was like the number one doctor 150 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: in her, field and she's a great search she had 151 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: all these great, recommendations but she was not As she 152 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: was also not, pleasant and that's, like you, KNOW i 153 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: know that seems, silly but there is a difference when 154 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: someone actually takes you seriously and cares about you as a, 155 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 3: patient because she may see a million breast cancer patients a, 156 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: day But i'm the only one that knows HOW i, 157 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: feel AND i want her to actually give a crap 158 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: That i'm, there to be. Honest so she was, like you, 159 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: KNOW i, said, well what would you? Do would you 160 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: have the lumpectomy or would you have the devil? Mistectomy 161 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: and she was, LIKE i can't tell you WHAT i. 162 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 3: Do it's up to. You AND i, SAID i, MEAN 163 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: i kind of feel like you're a woman. Too can't 164 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: you like give me an idea of how you feel 165 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 3: About she said that would be, Unprofessional BUT i can 166 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 3: do another biopsy and we can see if there are 167 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: microclif if the micro calcifications in your breasts are also pre. 168 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: Cancerous so we did that that came back that they, 169 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 3: were and she was, like so, listen we can lop 170 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: off that breast and then in twenty years you can 171 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 3: come back and have the other one, removed because in 172 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: twenty years you're going to likely have cancer. Too but 173 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: if we're thinking about, that then obviously you're probably going 174 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 3: to be going through your daughter's weddings at that, time 175 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: and do you want to be going through having one 176 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 3: of your breasts? Removed so we could just do them 177 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 3: both now and then you can have. Reconstruction it just 178 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: felt LIKE i was not a. Person AND i, said, 179 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: well what will my girls see IF i have? Reconstruction, 180 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 3: like explain to me what my daughters will, see because you, 181 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: KNOW i want them to know what it's like to 182 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 3: develop as a. Woman but are they going to look 183 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 3: at me And i'm going to look really different or 184 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: If i'm going to look really? Scarred and she was, 185 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: like what's going to happen is you're going to wear 186 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 3: a robe for the next few, years and when your 187 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: daughters get old enough to see you without a robe, 188 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: on they're going to, go what are those? Scars and 189 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: you're going to, say, listen mommy had. Cancer AND i was, like, 190 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 3: gosh that's just not my, family you, know like we 191 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 3: are open about, everything and so say it was a 192 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 3: typical BECAUSE i was also refusing to take her response 193 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 3: as the way it had to. Be SO i went 194 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 3: To Johns hopkins after, that and it was amazing the doctor's. 195 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: There they took so much time with, me and the 196 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: one the breast surgeon WHO i met, with was, like, 197 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: look if it were my wife or my, DAUGHTER i would, 198 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: say you don't want to take the chance of dealing 199 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 3: with this in ten or twenty. Years we want to 200 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: get rid of it. Now we want to take care 201 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 3: of you. Now and then the plastic SURGEON i met 202 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: with at the same, time he was, LIKE i want 203 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 3: you to be able to feel like you can wear 204 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: a bikini. AGAIN i want you to feel like a 205 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: woman when you go on the. BEACH i want you 206 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: to feel like you still have that feminine, body WHICH 207 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: i think is incredibly important to a woman going through 208 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 3: this because you're going into the doctor's office and they're, 209 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: saying the thing that makes you, feminine that makes you feel, 210 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 3: feminine that has been a part of motherhood for, you 211 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 3: that you have used to feed your, children this part 212 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: of you that is very and special to your husband 213 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: and special in your intimate, relationships we're cutting that. Off 214 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 3: you want to know what the outcome of that, Is, 215 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: well what AM i going to be like? Afterward and they, 216 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 3: said you, know we have these new. Procedures we're going 217 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: to try to spare the. Skin we're going to try 218 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 3: to spare the. Nipple we're going to try to make 219 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: it seem as normal as. Possible and they both got 220 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 3: teary eyed when they talked to. ME i was thirty 221 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: eight years. Old they, said we were devastated that this 222 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: happened to you at thirty. Eight that was like amazing 223 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 3: to me to have two men sit there and look 224 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: at me as a person understand that after, THIS i 225 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 3: want to still feel like a. Woman i'm. SCARED i 226 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 3: don't know what my girls are going to. THINK i 227 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: don't know what my husband's going to. Think all these 228 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: things going through my. MIND i don't even know If 229 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: i'm going to live at this. Point but IF i do, 230 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 3: live what DO i look like? Afterward all these major 231 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 3: questions THAT i wanted to ask that were very personal 232 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: and hard to. Ask you, know, WELL i actually have, 233 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: Breasts WILL i have my own NIPP i mean things 234 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: that are hard to, ask and they were willing to 235 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 3: go through in great detail for. Me and so that's 236 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: HOW i ended up going To Johns. Hopkins at the end. 237 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: Of the, DAY i, MEAN i am so glad you 238 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: went for that third, opinion BECAUSE i am beyond mortified 239 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: at your first two. 240 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: Experiences to be, HONEST i, mean this is what this 241 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: is my day. 242 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: JOB i am the person WHO i read the, IMAGES 243 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 2: i find the, CANCER i buy up see the. CANCER 244 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: i tell patients their, diagnosis AND i help get them plugged. 245 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: In so all of those questions that you're mentioning right, 246 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: now you, know why WOULD i do a double mass 247 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 2: deck to me versus a single mass deck to? Me 248 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: what is the future? ALL i, mean these are questions 249 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: THAT i face every single. Day and WHEN i hear 250 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: how poorly other people handle those, questions sometimes it breaks 251 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: my heart because as you're, saying this is more than just. 252 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: Cancer not, CANCER i mean you're talking about especially a. 253 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: WOMAN i, mean this is part of our, identity you, 254 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: know having. Breasts i'm, sorry it. Is having breasts is 255 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: part of a woman's. Identity having a mastectomy with. Reconstruction 256 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: it's not like going and getting a boom, job and 257 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: it's very, different and you, know people kind. 258 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: Of don't realize. 259 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: That so you were you said thirty eight when you were, Diagnosed, 260 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: yes thirty. Eight you had never even gone and had 261 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: your routine mammogram, yet because you, know we recommend starting 262 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: at age forty for people who are average, risk. 263 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 3: Right, right, exactly and no risk in my. Family there 264 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: was no, reason you. Know people that was another. Thing everybody's, like, 265 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 3: well why don't you want to know? Why i'm, LIKE 266 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: i don't think i'll ever know, why you, Know so 267 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: what's the point in me like pouring Over why could 268 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: why could this have happened to? ME i don't, know 269 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: but it's my. Story it. Was it's a big part 270 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 3: of my life with my girls now is to make 271 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: sure they're healthy and figure, out, like you, know what 272 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 3: what are we doing to stay healthy and why it's 273 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,599 Speaker 3: important to take care of. Yourself you. Know it was 274 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 3: interesting at the. Time so with my first, DAUGHTER i 275 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:07,479 Speaker 3: breastfed on both. Sides with my second, DAUGHTER i breastfed 276 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 3: mostly on the one. Side she just didn't want a. 277 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: Breastfeed on the cancer, side they said they thought it 278 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: was very slow, growing and they said they thought it 279 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 3: probably started five years BEFORE i had even found. It 280 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: so that was the blessing in, that because you, know 281 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 3: when you're young and you have, cancer usually it's fast, 282 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: growing but mine was. Slow BUT i actually have read 283 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: so many breastfeeding women since then have said they had 284 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: the same situation where the baby stopped wanting to. Breastfeed 285 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: on the cancer. Side so by the TIME i had the, 286 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: twins it was LIKE i was just one one uniboob 287 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: because like the one boob was doing all of the 288 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: breastfeeding and the other one they didn't want a breastfeed 289 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: on at. All AND i never it never dawned on, 290 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: me like why don't they WANT i was, LIKE i 291 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: guess that's just not their. Thing and the doctor didn't know, why, like, 292 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: oh there's no. Reason but any women Who i've read 293 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: since then on these chat groups and things for women 294 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: with breast cancer is that women who were breastfeeding when 295 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: they were diagnosed with breast cancer the baby didn't want 296 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: to feed off of the cancer. 297 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: Side you. 298 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: Know i've actually heard people say that it's not really 299 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: documented in the. Literature but SOMETIMES i just don't think 300 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: can be explained by, studies AND i think, YOU i, 301 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: mean there is an innate sense of a, mother an 302 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: innate sense of a, baby AND i just think that 303 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: sometimes you can't explain, things and we just you, know people, 304 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: know even babies know. 305 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: You're listening To wellness and Mass we'll be right back 306 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: with more for women. 307 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: Listening you, know as you kind of just alluded to 308 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: breast cancer that develops what we call perry, partum either 309 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: while you're pregnant or you, know in that year or 310 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: two after being. Pregnant oftentimes while, breastfeeding those tend to 311 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: be incredibly aggressive and fast moving breast. Cancers and, unfortunately 312 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: because your breasts are so lumpy bumpy to begin, with 313 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: people kind of just, say, oh it's, nothing and they 314 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: don't actually go. 315 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: In SO i. 316 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: Am i'm so happy that the person that you saw 317 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: found that. Lump still appalled that the radiologist said you 318 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: don't need an. Ultrasound that is just appalling to. Me 319 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: BUT i for women, listening first of, all you know 320 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: your breast better than anyone. 321 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: Else that's. 322 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: True but any new, lump any new, rash any new nibble, 323 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: discharge let me tell you that it's. Nothing don't minimalize 324 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: it in your own, brain because as women we tend 325 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: to do. That how many times is something going on 326 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: with your body and you're, like it's. NOTHING i need 327 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: to go focus on my. KIDS i need to go 328 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: focus on something. 329 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: ELSE i don't have. 330 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 3: Time i'm, like, oh there's no WAY i can take 331 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: time to go to a doctor's appointment and then have 332 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: to go to the lab and all of, This i'm 333 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 3: just gonna focus on the. KIDS i, mean as a, 334 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 3: MOM i think so often you put your kids ahead 335 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: OF i, mean you always put your kids ahead of, 336 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 3: yourself so you just Don't even IF i had even felt, 337 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: IT i probably wouldn't have done anything Because i'd been, Like, 338 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 3: eh it's, Fine i'll Find i'll talk to them about 339 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: it at the next. Appointment but that's so important not 340 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 3: to do, that, because, HONESTLY i, mean if you think about, 341 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: it the best thing you can do for your kids 342 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: is to put that oxygen mask on you. First you, 343 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 3: know make sure you're taking care of yourself because you 344 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 3: want to be. There that moment of finding OUT i 345 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 3: had cancer and getting into the car, AFTERWARD i was by. 346 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 3: MYSELF i had just left the. APPOINTMENT i remember driving 347 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 3: home and starting to cry and, thinking because everything starts 348 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 3: going through your. Head you're, Like, okay my oldest is, 349 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 3: six will she remember enough to tell the four year 350 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 3: old and the two year? 351 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: Old? 352 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: WHAT i was, like will will we be able to 353 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: take enough? Pictures can we have things around the? House 354 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 3: because you cancer is such a scary. Word i'm not 355 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 3: living through, this you. Know and THEN i had this 356 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 3: like overwhelming sense From. God it was just, This you're not, 357 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 3: alone you don't need to. Cry this is a. Journey 358 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: i'm on it with. You and it was the last. 359 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: Time it was the last TIME i shed a tear 360 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 3: the whole, time through the, surgery, everything it was just, 361 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 3: like this is part of my, Story this is part 362 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 3: of my. Journey god has me on and whatever, happens 363 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 3: he's with, me and he's with the, girls and this 364 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 3: is going to end in a whatever however the ending, 365 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: is he will be there and it will be. Good 366 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 3: and it was a crazy journey to go, on BUT 367 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: i never felt overwhelmed because of my. 368 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 2: Faith and faith is so, important you, know whether you're A, 369 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: christian you're A, jew or you don't even believe in 370 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: a Particular, god but you just believe in something. Greater 371 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: just knowing that there is something bigger than you truly 372 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: does provide comfort during times of struggle when you were 373 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: feeling those kind of that ALMOST i guess. Anxiety will 374 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: my children remember? ME i mean that is something very 375 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 2: common for women to. Feel was there anything that you 376 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: did during that? Time some people Say i'm going to 377 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: start writing a, JOURNAL i am going to start doing video. 378 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: Diaries did you have any of those thoughts of things 379 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 2: that you wanted to? 380 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 3: DO i think that was those thoughts were. There it was, Like, 381 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 3: okay ONCE i get through, this BECAUSE i had to 382 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 3: go through the surgery to find out how really what 383 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: stage it was, at so it's, like, okay ONCE i 384 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 3: get through this, surgery the videos, Like i'll make the 385 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 3: videos and we'll have those. Ready and then after the. 386 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 3: Surgery SO i got diagnosed On august. FOURTEENTH i had 387 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: my surgery On october, fifteenth and after the, surgery they 388 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: told me we've got. It we got it. All you're 389 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: not going to have to do, chemo we're not going 390 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 3: to do. Radiation we feel like you're in good. SHAPE i, 391 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 3: mean it was really a. Blessing SO i fortunately didn't 392 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 3: have to go through. That but WHEN i did have the, 393 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: Surgery i'd never left the girls. Before i'd never even 394 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 3: gone A ca, before so having the surgery In, BALTIMORE 395 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 3: i KNEW i would have to stay there for ten. 396 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 3: DAYS i had the, surgery had to stay there for 397 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 3: ten days in The baltimore, area and then go back 398 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 3: for my follow, up AND i couldn't travel between, times 399 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 3: SO i stayed away from the girls for ten days 400 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 3: and that was really. Hard AND i REMEMBER i had 401 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: talked to my oldest ABOUT i have cancer and this 402 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 3: is what this. Means but you, know we're going to 403 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 3: go and we're going to try to get healed and 404 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 3: it's going to be. Okay and then WHEN i was 405 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: the night BEFORE i was, LEAVING i was tucking her 406 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 3: in that night to bed AND i, Said, okay mommy's 407 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 3: going to be gone for two, weeks but when we get. 408 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: Back WHEN i get, back we're going to do something really. 409 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: Fun and she, said where are you? Going AND i, said, 410 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 3: remember mommy has, cancer SO i have to go have. 411 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 3: Surgery and her EYES i will never. Forget it was 412 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 3: like it had never struck her what that actually. Meant 413 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: and her eyes welled up with tears and she looked at. 414 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: Me she, said you have cancer and it was so 415 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 3: oh my. GOSH i was, like it's, Okay god's got. 416 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: Me we're. Good i'm going to get through. This i'm 417 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: going to be back in two, weeks and she. Was 418 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 3: it was just like you could see her little. HEARTBREAKING 419 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 3: i wanted her to. KNOW i wanted her to be 420 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 3: involved in that BECAUSE i knew WHEN i got home 421 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 3: it was going to be a lot. DIFFERENT i wouldn't 422 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 3: be able to lift them, UP i wouldn't be able 423 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 3: to hug them. TIGHT i was gonna be in recovery 424 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 3: for such a long. Time and she was so, strong 425 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 3: she was so. Incredible knowing that she was the oldest 426 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 3: sister to these other three little babies was just such a. 427 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: Comfort god just had a really strong plan with the 428 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 3: way he built my family and built my family for 429 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 3: this and was very. Blessed that story is just so. 430 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: Heartbreaking you, know WHEN i talked to patients AND i 431 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: talked to them about having breast, cancer that's immediately the 432 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: first thing that they think of when they have young 433 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 2: children at home is just what about my? Babies and you, 434 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: know my kids probably hear more about cancer than the average, 435 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 2: child because that's my husband AND i talk about it 436 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 2: all the. 437 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: Time you, know that's our. Work BUT i try to 438 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: normalize it to my. Children god. 439 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: Forbid you, know IF i were to ever get breast, 440 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 2: cancer and you, know statistically, speaking you, know there's a 441 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: realistic chance That i'm going to get some sort of 442 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 2: cancer because it's just we do, unfortunately AND i want 443 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 2: to NOT i want my children to not feel that 444 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: being terrified in that, moment and SO i THINK i 445 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 2: almost try to normalize it a, little probably a little 446 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 2: too much for my young, children BECAUSE i don't want 447 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: to see that welling up in their eyes that you're, 448 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 2: describing because THAT i think would probably just break my. 449 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,959 Speaker 3: Heart it's SO i, mean you're, right it's so common. 450 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 3: Now the girls come home and they just earlier this 451 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 3: week they came home and, said we added a new 452 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 3: person's grandparent to the prayer list because they have. Cancer 453 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 3: and we lost my dad in twenty twenty two to pancreatic, cancer, 454 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: terrible terrible. Cancer that one IS i think one of the. 455 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 3: Worst and they, watched they watched, that they watched him 456 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 3: go through. That, HONESTLY i think that had they not 457 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: known what my WHAT i had gone through in my, 458 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 3: struggle it would have been quite a bit harder to 459 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 3: watch my dad go through what he was going. Through 460 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 3: and there was a process of letting go and Letting 461 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 3: god and all of. That BUT i, mean it is 462 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 3: true that it's something that we want to. Avoid it's 463 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 3: so ugly and when you haven't had when it's not your, 464 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 3: job and when it's not the family, business you, know 465 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: you don't want to talk about. It you don't want 466 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 3: to ever scare your. Kids it's so common, NOW i mean, 467 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 3: NOW i think that one of the reasons that when 468 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 3: you talk about my diagnosis, process one of the reasons 469 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 3: that there was that change in tone was BECAUSE i 470 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 3: think going in at thirty, eight ten years, ago it 471 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 3: was it's not as. COMMON i think that was just 472 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 3: the kind of the beginning of them starting to see 473 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: a lot of younger women with breast, cancer AND i 474 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 3: think they were as stunned AS i. Was it was, 475 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 3: like oh my, gosh how can this be. HAPPENING i 476 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: just don't feel Like i'm old enough to be the 477 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 3: person with breast. Cancer now it's happening more and, more you, 478 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 3: KNOW i don't, KNOW i don't know. WHY i, MEAN 479 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: i actually hope that this administration comes to some conclusions 480 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 3: of what we're doing differently that is causing. This BUT 481 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 3: i do think that it's important to talk to your 482 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 3: kids about the fact that health is. Important taking care 483 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 3: of your health is. Important there are things that happen 484 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 3: that you can't control regardless of how you take care 485 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 3: of your. Health BUT i also think that we are 486 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 3: in a culture now when we were. Kids there was 487 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 3: this culture of never talked to your daughters about health 488 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 3: because that was potentially going to cause an eating. Disorder 489 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: if you talked about, health you were essentially saying you 490 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: have to be, fit you have to be, healthy you 491 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 3: have to be. Thin BUT i don't think that's what it. 492 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: IS i think we we should talk to our daughters 493 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: about being healthy and the importance of using your body 494 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 3: to exercise and be strong THAT i think that there 495 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 3: were a good ten years where people were afraid to 496 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 3: talk to girls about a healthy lifestyle because they thought 497 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: it was incriminating and they thought it was shaming. Women 498 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 3: but it's not shaming women to, say you have one, 499 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 3: body we have to take care of. 500 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: It more coming up On Wellness unmasked with Doctor Nicole. 501 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: Sapphire so going, FORWARD i, mean you're, right by the, 502 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: way because people are worried, about you, know body dysmorphic 503 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 2: disorder young girls in the era OF, covid social, isolation digital, 504 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 2: media online bullying and all of. 505 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: That you, know we are coddling our younger. 506 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: Generations and on one, hand you kind of want to 507 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: because you want to shield them from some of. This 508 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: but you are absolutely right because if you are not 509 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: talking to young girls about some of this. Stuff they don't, 510 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: realize you, know a lot of the cancer we're seeing 511 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: in younger people is from lifestyle. Factors some we can, 512 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: control you, know like our weight and some of the 513 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 2: foods we're, consuming and exercise and not smoking and drinking you, 514 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 2: know minimal if none. Alcohol but on top there are 515 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: some things we can't, avoid like microplastics and hormones in 516 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: our food and all of. That after having gone through 517 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: it yourself and having so many little girls moving, forward 518 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 2: what is kind of your message to your girls as 519 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 2: they are growing up about trying to live their healthiest. 520 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 3: Lives, actually we just talked about this the other day 521 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 3: with my, daughter and it's it's kind of stunning BECAUSE 522 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 3: i think that you don't realize how much as a 523 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 3: kid life was different for. Us we Had jim every. 524 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 3: Day there were strength. Tests you had to be able 525 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 3: to pass the strength tests when we were, young and 526 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 3: that is just not the case in our schools. Today 527 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 3: so as, PARENTS i think we even have to go 528 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: what is the difference between our childhood and how and 529 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 3: the healthy lifestyle that we had and what our kids, 530 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 3: have and how do we take care of? That outside of, 531 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 3: school BECAUSE i think my parents were somewhat spoiled in 532 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 3: that we would just go out and ride bikes after. 533 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 3: School but during school we had strength. TESTS i MEAN 534 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 3: i remember having to climb the rope to the top 535 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 3: of the, gym having to do sit, ups and having 536 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 3: to do pull. Ups and my girls don't do. That 537 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: so there is a conversation that we've recently. Had my 538 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 3: daughter the other day was, Saying my sixteen year old was, 539 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 3: SAYING i have such bad. Posture, Mom i've got to 540 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 3: do something about my. Posture AND i, said you, know 541 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 3: a lot of that has to do with your core, 542 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: Drengths so why don't we start doing some? Situps and 543 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 3: she could not do a sit. UP i was, stunned 544 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 3: AND i feel really horrible about, this BUT i, said 545 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 3: what do you mean you can't Do she's, Like, MOM 546 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 3: i can't do what you're. Doing AND i think, that 547 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 3: to me is something that we haven't actually been prepared 548 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 3: for as, parents because we wor we did have such 549 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 3: active lifestyles as, kids and that was a part of 550 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: school and it's not. Now so that is a conversation 551 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 3: we've just recently had in our home that you have 552 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 3: to build your, strength because what you build on now 553 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 3: your body has muscle, Memory it will remember that your whole, 554 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 3: life and you have a better chance of being able 555 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 3: to stay. Strong and just being strong is so important 556 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 3: in my. Mind and SO i was talking to some 557 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 3: of my girlfriends about. This i'm, Like i'm stunned that 558 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 3: my sixteen year old can't do a sit, up and they, 559 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,959 Speaker 3: said we just had the same. Experience we had no 560 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 3: idea how little weight training they're, doing how little strength 561 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: training they're. Doing SO i think for girls, especially that 562 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 3: conversation is not about your sized jeans you're wearing or 563 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: how much food you're. Consuming it's the fact that you 564 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 3: have to be consuming the right foods and you should 565 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: be concerned about your. Strength you should be concerned about 566 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 3: your muscles and your ability to hold your own body. 567 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 3: UP i, mean if you feel concerned that your posture 568 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 3: is bad and you can't hold your body up in 569 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: a sit, up, well we have some work to. Do 570 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: and it's not an embarrass the same thing to. Do 571 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: it's just a part of being healthy and taking care 572 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 3: of the body That god gave. 573 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: You, WELL i, mean you're absolutely. Right and by the, 574 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 2: way strength training and being in. Shape this is you, 575 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: know this isn't something for. Cosmesis we're talking about long term, health, 576 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: yes AND i Mean i'm perimenopausal, myself and that is 577 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: one of the most important. Things and you know when 578 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: to bring it back to breast cancer awareness. Months, listen 579 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: at the end of the, day the risk for breast 580 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: cancer are being a woman and getting, older And i'm, 581 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 2: sorry you can't do anything about. That, however there are 582 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: modifiable risk factors for breast, cancer one of them absolutely 583 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: being the, fat the number of fat cells in your 584 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: body because those fat cells actually create, estrogen and estrogen 585 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: drives estrogen sensitive cancers like some breast, cancers endometrial, cancers liver, 586 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 2: cancers and. Others so the more fat you have on your, 587 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: body the higher risk of. Cancers so that is one 588 00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: way you can decrease your. 589 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: Risk and. 590 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: Exercising i'm not talking about being a gym rat and 591 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: being a fitness. Model i'm just talking about taking a walk. 592 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: Around you know you're building and being able to do 593 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: some sit ups and doing some of those other things 594 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: directly linked to a decreased cancer risk if you get 595 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: your body, moving and it is just crucial that we 596 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: instill these messages in our younger generations because cancer is 597 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: on the. Rise it's not just we're diagnosing, more more 598 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: people are truly getting, cancer and we have to make 599 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: a difference Make america. Healthy against making some changes they're 600 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: bringing that their presidential fitness. 601 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: Tests i'm all for. 602 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 3: It and that's actually something that my daughter AND i 603 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 3: have been, doing so my oldest and sometimes the younger 604 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 3: ones tag. Along we've been trying to do a nightly 605 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 3: walk around the. Neighborhood AND i have to, say it's, 606 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 3: like this is so much bigger than just exercise and 607 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 3: getting out and doing something and breathing fresh. Air it's 608 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 3: getting out of the. House it's neither of us have a. 609 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 3: Device we're both totally focused on each, other talking about, 610 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 3: school we're talking about. Friends we get this time, alone 611 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 3: that's just the two of us where we are doing 612 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 3: something healthy and we are learning about each. Other and 613 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 3: my girls lately have really reminded. ME i keep hearing 614 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 3: all these things about get your kids off of, phones 615 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 3: get your kids off of, devices AND i, think you, 616 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 3: KNOW i get, that BUT i also think that this 617 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 3: generation of kids has we as kids never saw our 618 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 3: parents on, devices so it's us getting off, too us 619 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 3: spending that quality time together as, well and showing them 620 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 3: this is the lifestyle THAT i want you to be 621 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 3: able to, enjoy AND i should be a part of that. 622 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 3: TOO i should not be the ones That i've got, 623 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 3: Work i've got to be on the, phone And i'm 624 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 3: guilty of. It So i'm trying really hard to show 625 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: them that part of a healthy lifestyle is conversation and 626 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 3: togetherness and that intimacy of. 627 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: Family, Amen, Tutor i'm so grateful that you came on 628 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 2: today and you shared your. Story we could all learn 629 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: from you your, experience And i'm just in awe of, 630 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: you so thank you so much for being so open with. Us, 631 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: absolutely thank you for having. ME i was such an 632 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: amazing conversation With. Tutor just her, honesty strength. Voice that 633 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: is what we need to hear because you, know AS 634 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: i continue to, SAY i can give you all the 635 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 2: statistics in the, world but hearing from someone who has 636 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 2: lived through it truly can help anyone who may be 637 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: going through it as. Well, NOW i don't want everyone 638 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 2: leaving here today thinking this is a doomsday kind of. 639 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: Conversation when it comes to breast cancer, awareness it's all 640 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: about early, detection getting your, mammograms making sure you know 641 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 2: your normal lumps and bumps in your. Breasts but there 642 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 2: are some things that you can't do to decrease your 643 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 2: risk of breast. Cancer, yes being a, woman getting, older 644 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 2: those are our biggest risk. Factors you can't really do 645 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: anything about. That but there are some things you can 646 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: do that will absolutely lower your risk of not just breast, 647 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: cancer but other cancers as. 648 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: Well maintain a healthy. 649 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: Weight having excess fat cells produces more estrogen and stress 650 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: hormones in your body that directly increases your risk of 651 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: breast cancer and ometrial cancer. 652 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: Cancer being physically. ACTIVE i KNOW i sound like a broken, 653 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: record but, yes you have to move your body. More 654 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: we all do. That i'm not talking about just doing 655 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: the peloton or just running on the. Treadmill you have 656 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: to be lifting, weights make sure you're building. Muscle it's 657 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: really good not for just lowering your cancer, risk but 658 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: it also helps your, Bones it increases your immune system 659 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: and also helps your. Brain limiting alcohol, INTAKE i get. 660 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: IT i love champagne and. Tequila those are my jam 661 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,959 Speaker 1: some may, say but the reality is there really is 662 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: not any health benefit to drinking. Alcohol in, fact study 663 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: after study says even moderate intake of alcohol can increase 664 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: your risk of. 665 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 2: Cancer, now some of that is correlative because the more 666 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: you drink maybe the more fat you have in your. 667 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: Body but the reality, is if you drink, alcohol maybe 668 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: try a little bit less if you're working on decreasing 669 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: your risk of cancers and also knowing your personal. Risk 670 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 2: the reality is most people diagnose with breast cancer do 671 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:03,479 Speaker 2: not have a family. 672 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: History so if you find a new lump in your, 673 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 1: breast don't just think it's absolutely nothing because you don't 674 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: have a family. History the reality is you should always 675 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: let a doctor tell you and image you before some 676 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: lump or a rash or a nipple discharge or whatever 677 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: it may, be always make sure you're seeing a doctor 678 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: for Those if you have a family history of breast, 679 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: cancer you have known genetic, mutations you're at an increased 680 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: risk and maybe you need more than just a, Mammogram 681 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: maybe you need an, ultrasound maybe even need AN. 682 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 2: Mri bottom, line everyone is, different and so just because your, 683 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 2: sister just because your neighbor they do, this something else 684 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 2: might be right for. You the best thing you can 685 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 2: do have a conversation with your. Doctor you can also 686 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 2: reach out to me on social. Media i'm happy to 687 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: try and field as many. Questions if you send messages 688 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 2: about topics you want to hear On wellness AND, Mass 689 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 2: i'll do that. Too but It's breast Cancer awareness. Month 690 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 2: let's all do our. Diligence if you haven't had your 691 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 2: mammogram and you're forty years or, older go get. IT 692 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: i promise you early detection matters and finding your cancer 693 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 2: early may just save your. 694 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: Life i'm Doctor Nicole. Sapphire thanks so much for listening 695 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 1: To wellness ON. Mass make sure you listen. 696 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 2: To wellness ON, mass On iHeartRadio or anywhere that you 697 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 2: listen 698 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: To your, podcast and we'll see you next time