WEBVTT - Segment 2 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.600 Welcome back. I'm Dale Ali. 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:03.960 He is Matt Williamson, and this is the drive on 0:00:04.040 --> 0:00:06.760 Steelers Nation Radio. And as I mentioned going into the 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:11.680 break there, Bill Barmeoell on ESPN ranked the weapons for 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:13.920 each team in the NFL one through thirty two, and 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:18.760 this is offensive weapons. Obviously we've done some similar stuff 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:20.360 to this, but this is a different little take on 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:25.880 it because he says, here are the caveats that he 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:29.000 used here, and I'm just going to read off the 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:31.720 things that he has in bold here. This is only 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.800 about on field performance for the twenty twenty three season. 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:37.280 Okay, First of. 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.120 All, sure, we're not you know, boy, I love this. 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:42.080 I think Jason Smith and Jigma is going to be 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:44.680 great or you know, I'll get you now right, I 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:44.920 get it. 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:52.360 Okay, cool, Injury history and suspensions matter. Okay, So for example, 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.200 you know, it's only really, as he says here, it's 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:57.960 only realistic to project Michael Thomas to miss more time 0:00:58.280 --> 0:00:59.200 than Travis Kelcey. 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:03.480 Sure, or hey, Jamison Williams is already missing time with 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:07.360 I can't get them seventeen games worth of credit here. 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:07.839 Right. 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:12.000 Wide receivers are weighted more heavily than running backs or 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:12.919 tight ends. 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.039 And that's just where the NFL is at right now. 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:16.640 I said, I don't disagree with that. I give them 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.640 credit for that, while I think tight ends are vastly 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:23.920 underpaid and underrated receivers are getting paid for a reason, 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:24.959 they're getting paid huge. 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:25.480 Yeah. 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.039 And then the final thing here is the focus is 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:31.840 on elite players in a team's top five contributors. 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:35.360 Okay, oh, he's got another one here. 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.520 Efficiency matters as well, so he's so he's looking at 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.120 yards yards per route run and target share, things of 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:41.679 that nature. 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:46.279 So at number Jackson types don't Yeah, you know, at. 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:48.960 Number thirty two, which is the same spot that they 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:50.720 were at when he did this in twenty twenty two 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:52.160 and in twenty twenty one. 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:54.400 Are the Houston Texans. 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.360 I mean they're bad, but they're getting better. 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.480 I mean, well, I mean the problem is, you know, 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:02.040 can you count on John Matchie? 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.560 You know some of these other Robert Woods is coming 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:06.280 off of a. 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:12.240 ACL you know, it's even Damian Pierce didn't have a 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:13.320 complete rookie season. 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:17.440 Like there's questions, Oh, there's definitely questions. I'm just saying, 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:21.880 I'm not sure that'd be thirty two for me. But yeah, 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:25.560 that's pretty bad. I mean they were I did a 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:28.400 thing on DVA offenses today and it was them and 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:32.040 the Colts were the distant worst two offenses by DVA. 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:36.800 And are the weapons noticeably better than that bad? I 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:38.560 like Nico Collins, but the answer is no. 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:39.480 Yeah. 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:43.480 Thirty one is the Carolina Panthers. They were eighteenth going 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.799 into last year. They were seventh going into twenty twenty one. 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.679 And Nam McCaffrey, who's part of the trade obviously. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.200 Is DJ Moore, And you know, right right, right, right right, 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:56.200 it's pretty bad. 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:57.799 I mean, I think that offense is going to be 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.000 quite bad this year, to be very honest with you. 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.040 Is it worth it? Probably, but it's going to be 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:06.960 growing pays galore, and I think they need to heavily 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.680 invest in pass catchers go forward. 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:11.520 Thirty is the Arizona Cardinals. 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:15.600 They were fifteenth last year, eighteenth and twenty twenty one. 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:20.600 I mean, Connor's okay. I think Marquis Brown's a good player. 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:25.079 Rondel Moore is fine, you know, but they're bottom the 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:25.959 league too. 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.520 Many guys like Marquise Brown and Rondel Moore to me 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:33.240 are similar type players. 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:38.240 You know, small, you know, different styles. You know, Brown's 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:38.680 more than that. 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:41.360 Yeah, more down the field where Brown is gonna or 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.080 I'm sorry, Rondell Moore's going to catch stuff behind the 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:44.840 line of scrimmage. 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:46.840 But it's just it's not a good offense. 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.640 It's not good offense. And they're both tiny, and you 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:53.120 know their tight ends might be okay, but pretty bad. 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:53.560 Yeah. 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:58.240 Twenty nine the Tennessee Titans. They were nineteenth. Last year 0:03:58.280 --> 0:03:59.920 they were third and twenty twenty one. 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.279 I guess A J. Brown and Woods in his prime. 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.120 And yeah, got well Derrick Henry A J. Brown. Corey 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:09.080 Davis wasn't bad. 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.080 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't think about Henry Eve. I'm 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.880 thinking more pass cutchers. But now that's I guess Henry 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.040 still being there might keep them from thirty two. 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:18.160 I mean it's probably about all. 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:23.200 Yeah, because you know the receivers Nick Westbrook, A kidd A, 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.960 Kyle Phillips, it's just not good. 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.280 No, I mean Burt's is still very much a work 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:29.880 in progress. 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.360 Well, yeah, and they need him to be number one. 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.800 I think there's a chance Chig leads that team in receptions. Yeah, 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:39.200 that's not what you want. 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:43.680 Twenty eight they were eleventh and twenty twenty one, they 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:44.520 were twenty ninth. 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:50.040 Last year, they're twenty eighth this year. The Green Bay Packers. 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.920 The youngest team in the league. This is a version 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.920 of a rebuild, but questions galore. I mean, I still 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:58.560 think Aaron Jones is a really good player, but the 0:04:58.560 --> 0:04:59.880 other guys are all well. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.479 See the average age of their wide receivers and tight 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:05.880 ends is twenty three point four. 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:06.599 Is it really? 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:09.600 I didn't read that. I just know that all over 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:11.520 their team they are the youngest team in the league. 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:12.640 They are super young. 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:18.080 At twenty seven they were sixteenth, and twenty twenty one thirtieth, 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.080 and twenty twenty two twenty seventh. 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:24.120 This year the Giants seems. 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:27.480 Rough on that. I mean, if you give Barkley and Waller. 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:31.720 But as he said, those aren't the premium positions. Who 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:32.760 are your wide receivers? 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.839 I know, I mean a bunch of slaw dudes. Yeah, 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.400 and it's not great, but it's better than what they've 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.279 played with last year, I guess, is my point? 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.520 Well, I mean he had them ranked thirtieth last year, 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:49.719 their twenty seventh now, so I guess he agrees. 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:54.000 Yeah, at twenty sixth, they were twenty seventh and twenty 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:57.800 twenty one. They were twenty sixth last year, so they 0:05:57.800 --> 0:05:59.400 haven't done anything to improve their lot. 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:04.760 The Patriots, so their skill guys, I would say Ramandre 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:06.480 Stevenson's the only one that's an. 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.640 Above average starter, and he's a running back. 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:11.839 And he's a running back, right, Yeah, I like it, 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:15.599 but he's also not Christian McCaffery. 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:15.680 No. 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.360 Lower, they are bad. 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:19.960 Yeah, it's pretty bad. 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:24.880 Yeah, twenty five they were twenty eighth, and twenty twenty one, 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:28.760 twentieth and twenty twenty two, they're now twenty fifth. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:31.440 The Colts. 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:33.839 I mean, I know we're gonna start talking about teams 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:36.760 that are quite strong. But I think Pittman's a really 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:40.760 good receiver. I think Taylor's a nearly elite running back, 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:42.080 and I. 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:45.800 Think I think Pittman would be a good solid. He'd 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:46.880 be a high end number two. 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:51.719 Yeah, he might be Steelers best receiver. 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.039 I don't think he's in the mix. I wouldn't go 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:55.360 that far. 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:58.040 He got ninety nine passes last year, but he averaged 0:06:58.120 --> 0:06:59.360 nine point three yards to catch. 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.280 Their offense was almost unwatchable with Matt Ryan and then 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.080 Jeff's Saturday taken over, and I mentioned I did that 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:07.800 DVA stuff. They were thirty two. 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:11.600 I mean Pittman right, Pittman right now might be a 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:12.840 younger version of Juju. 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:15.600 I like him more than that. 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:20.360 I like Juju back in the day here to be. 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:22.760 You know that he's a guy that's he's not a 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:23.559 downfield threat. 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.840 Yeah no, I mean he's a slant guy and you know, 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:28.080 contested catch dude. 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:28.440 Yeah. 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:30.240 I like their tight end, Zo and I kind of 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.200 like Pierce, and I kind of like downs. I mean, 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:33.360 they're all question marks. 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:35.200 But they're twenty fifth in the league. 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.280 Yeah, it's tough competition. 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.160 Yeah, okay, twenty fourth. They were seventeenth. 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.360 This team was seventeenth and twenty twenty one, fourteenth and 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.840 twenty twenty two. They're now twenty fourth Denver. 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.000 Okay. I mean I know running backs and don't carry 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.640 as much weight, but I would hold Javonte Williams injury 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:59.760 heavily against them. I think Doulchic is a fun, young 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.920 type end, and the receivers are good. I mean you 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:04.000 drafted Mims. 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:11.760 High, yeah, but I don't think Sutton, Jerry Judy, they 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:13.400 haven't worked out like they thought. 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.040 You know, they took kJ Hammler was a second round pick. 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:17.280 I know, I know. 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.560 I mean they've they've used they've used draft capital at 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.080 wide receiver like crazy, and they don't have a stud. 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.560 It wouldn't shock me if Judy maybe I was gonna 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:31.280 say Or, but I'm gonna say and Or Sutton aren't 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:32.720 Broncos this time next year. 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:33.920 Wouldn't surprise me. 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:37.280 I mean, they were losing Tim Patrick to them last 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:38.320 year was a big deal. 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:40.800 It's a big deal. Yeah, he's a I mean he's 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:42.480 a really good play. I mean he's a good three. 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.240 But it hurtd them dramatically. 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:50.360 At twenty Yeah, at twenty three they were tenth, and 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:52.800 twenty twenty one they were seventh, and twenty twenty two 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:56.559 they followed twenty three the Rams. 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.720 So I'm not gonna give Bill Barnwall hard time on 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:04.439 this one, except for it's more of a philosophical thing 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.080 when you do ranks like cup is the best name 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.880 we've probably mentioned yet. I mean, I'm off the top 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:10.400 of my head. 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:11.040 Yeah, but the. 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.280 Rest is junk. I mean we're talking Ben Scarnic and 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:18.880 Tyler Higbee and two too out well yeah yeah, but 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:20.400 one guy carries a ton of weight. 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:26.000 They must carry a lot of weight there. Yeah, at 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:30.800 twenty two, people will go nuts about this. They were 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.439 thirtieth and twenty twenty one, they were twenty fourth and 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.680 twenty twenty two. They're now twenty second. 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.120 The Jets. 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:41.400 I love Rees Hall and I love Garrett Wilson, but 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.600 they're second year guys, you know, I mean they don't 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:46.800 have the body of work. The rest of the crew 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:48.719 is good, it's not phenomenal. 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.880 Yeah, well, all they did was go out and sign 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.000 all Aaron Rodgers buddies, So right. 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.040 Right, I don't care about Lizard and you know Nichole 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:57.800 Hardman and. 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:03.080 Yeah, twenty one, they were twenty twenty four, they were 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:06.080 twenty four and twenty twenty one. They were twenty second 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:10.280 in twenty twenty two. The Washington Commanders. 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.720 I like their two starting receivers a lot, and Curtis 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:15.960 Samuel seems to have kind of found his niche. 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:17.199 They don't have a tight end. 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:21.000 Cosition's awful. Running backs sock radio. 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:22.160 And the running backs are just guys. 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:27.360 They're just guys. Yeah, at twenty they may even be 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:27.960 lower for me. 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:29.920 A big fall here for this team. 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.839 They were ninth and twenty twenty one, they were tenth 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:34.760 to twenty twenty two, they're now twentieth. 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:37.559 The Buffalo Bills. 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:40.959 I think that's just. 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:42.160 I mean, Digs. 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:44.600 Digs is in that conversation to be the best guy 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:45.800 that we've talked about thus far. 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.280 Yeah, I say Digs and Copper about saying, but the 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:52.640 rest of their guys are just eh, rookie first round 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:54.160 tight end that you're putting a lot of stock in. 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.840 I mean, I like Dawson Knox, but he's you know, 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.599 he's Tyler. He's not starting over Friarmooth. 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.680 No, definitely not. You know, you put a lot of 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.160 stock in a James Cook to take a big jump 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:12.000 or somebody like that, or Kincaid. Jay Davis isn't particularly good. Yeah, 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.920 Davids should be the Steelers third or fourth receiver, depending 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:17.000 how Robbinson plays. 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:22.439 At nineteen, they were sixth, and twenty twenty one, they 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.360 were sixteenth going into last year. 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:29.439 They're now nineteenth. The Kansas City Chiefs. 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.840 I mean, this is a compliment to the organization, but 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.480 I would have them lower on this list. I think 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:37.400 they're one guy too. 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:40.959 Yeah, I mean it depends on how you look at Kelsey. 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.640 I know he said he's the one guy I know 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:45.840 and he says tight ends don't matter as much. 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:47.680 I don't think he can look at Kelsey though, as 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:49.079 it's just your typical tight end. 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.560 No, like him and Cooper Cupp have at least the 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:52.480 same value. 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.800 Absolutely eggs or you know, he's just bad, right right right, 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.719 And then you're looking at you know, Isaiah paiceco and 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:02.640 Jack McKinnon and you know just Cadarius Tony and Sky 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:03.560 Moore like that. 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:04.000 Yuck. 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.440 Yeah, yeah, put him in the wide receiver positions as 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:08.480 bad as any in the league. 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:13.640 How about the fall for this team at eighteen In 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:15.360 twenty twenty one, they were number one. 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:20.000 Wow, in twenty twenty two they were number five. They 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.680 fall to eighteen this year. That's Tampa Bay. 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:29.319 Ooh yeah, I mean our Evans and god when's best 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.400 days behind them? Yeah, it's a conversation. 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:33.920 I think you do have to look at the injury 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:35.600 history there, especially at Godwin. 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:36.360 Right. 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.800 You know, the running back position is largely unknown, The 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:43.920 tight end position is okay, you know they don't hit Gronk. 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:48.840 Yeah, I mean it's not even like late career Gronk 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.720 Antonio Brown role players. 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:57.040 I mean, I like Kate Auten. Yeah, but yeah, it's bad. 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:02.640 They might be lower for me, well, would they be 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:03.560 lower than this team? 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:05.520 At seventeen? 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.560 In twenty twenty one, they were twenty six In twenty 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:12.319 twenty two, they were thirty first at seventeen. 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:16.959 This year is the Chicago Bears. Hmm? 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:22.000 Are they better or worse than? Like Washington? And the 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:23.640 only reason I said that is because I think DJ 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.079 Moore and McLaurin are like, are similar, you know what 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:29.680 I mean, like they the same tier. I mean, Mooney's good, 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.400 you know, I think the tight end is is co 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:33.320 commit is good? 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.880 Adequate or yeah, you got to chase I'll see what 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:38.280 he is. 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:44.840 They get a handful of backs that are fine. Yeah, yeah, 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.920 I mean Mooney missed a lot of time. I mean 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.400 that was a bigger blow than people realize. And if 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.840 he's not the one, now he's a two slash three 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:57.120 or whatever, right, you know, it's rounding into shape. 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:03.160 At sixteen, they were thirty first and twenty twenty one seventeenth. 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:07.199 Last year they're sixteenth. Now the Detroit Lions. 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:12.080 I mean, as it's constructed right this second, and it's 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:15.720 Saint Brown and a bunch of rookies slash suspending game, it's. 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.600 Yes, basically what it has been the last couple of years. 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.360 It's a mon Ross Saint Brown and now. 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.480 What I mean, we know Jamison Williams is coming back, 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.440 so it's not like he doesn't exist. 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.200 And you don't even have Hawkinson the fallback on. 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:29.920 Now right right right, I mean that's what I mean. 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:33.200 It's rookies, it's Laporta, it's Gibbs, you. 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.920 Know, like I mean, you got Marvin Jones and Josh Reynolds. 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.760 But eh, yeah, like would you be in the DeAndre 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:40.360 Hopkins sweep stays a few of them? 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.880 Probably not what he's wanted, wants to be paid. 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:47.640 That's probably the thing period, and that that might be 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:49.840 the same for all teams right now that I'm just 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:53.480 not paying you that, Yeah, but they could use somebody 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:53.880 like that. 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.560 Though at fifteen. 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.440 They were try fourteenth and twenty twenty one they were 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:04.040 twenty fifth going into last year, they're now fifteenth. 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:07.200 The Baltimore Ravens. 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:10.560 You and I don't like the Odell signing. 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:12.800 Can you put the Ravens ahead of some of the 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:14.920 teams we've just talked about. I don't. I don't know 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:16.440 that you can see. 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.320 I was about to say the opposite. It's funny. I 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:21.880 was gonna say I would put them ahead of every 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:27.040 team we've mentioned. He did. I mean Andrews is in Kelsey, 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:28.280 but he's. 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.520 Well put on that. I would I rather. 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:37.400 Have Godwin and Evans and Kate Aughton as opposed to 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:40.280 at least they've played football last year. 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:44.440 I'd rather the Ravens, especially when you mentioned upside. 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.520 I don't care about upside and first round draft picks. 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:49.920 Those guys haven't played a down of football yet. 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:54.680 I know, I know. I think Andrews and Likely are good. 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.240 That's fine, but they're tight ends. And he said he 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.680 doesn't weigh the tight ends quite like putting. I would 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:05.720 say Kansas City with Kelsey. Kelsey's better than anybody the 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.680 Ravens have. Oh yeah, ye yeah, but not even it's 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:10.000 not it's not even close. 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.280 But he's like the third best in the league. Period. 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.920 So you tell are you telling me that that? Right now? 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:21.240 Patrick Mahomes would rather have Baltimore's pass catchers than what 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:22.200 he has. 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:24.520 In Kansas City. 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:26.800 I think you're cheating a little because those two are 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:33.760 blood brothers. Told death do his part, he might, I mean, 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.920 Andrews isn't that far off Kelse see nobody's Kelsey. 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.840 But Kelsey to me is head and shoulders above everybody 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:41.640 else is a pass catcher at the tight end position. 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:45.200 I agree, but I think, I think, I think, but 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.600 I think Kelsey is the top five pass catcher in 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.040 the league, league. 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:51.560 Regardless of position. Agreed. 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:55.360 Yes, where in fantasy football will tell you when you 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.760 have a draft, Kelsey's going to go in the first round, 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.680 Andrews is gonna go what round three or four? 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.640 I would say, yeah, yeah, and then it's a mess. 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:06.640 But I guess I'll fight you on. 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:10.160 This, Like they'll be between between Kelsey and Andrews, they'll 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:11.840 be fifteen wide receivers taken. 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:12.680 Mm hmm. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.560 Chiefs are a weird example because I think we talked 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:21.159 about this even last week that Mahomes wouldn't trade Kelsey 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:23.679 for anyone on the planet, you know, including Tyreek or 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.399 you know, especially on third and eight or in the 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.840 red zone. But the rest of that pass engine or 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.360 less of the rest of the Kansas City group is 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:33.480 really really bad. 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:34.240 Oh, I get it. 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.800 I'm just saying I like that one guy should carry 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:38.600 some serious weight. 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.560 Mm hmm. But like if the Bucks, if we're drafting, 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:44.879 who do you want first from the Bucks and Ravens. 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:46.600 Andrews is your first pick to. 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:50.200 Me, I don't know that he is Andrew Andrews or 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:53.399 Mike Evans. Now, if the quarterbacks are the same, like 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:57.560 I know, I know they aren't, I might rather have 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:58.040 Mike Evans. 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:01.160 I might rather have Chris Godwin. They probably the set, 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.639 I mean to me, they're they're in the same neighborhood. 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:08.119 Then two Bucks and then three Ravens. 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:10.800 It would be a while before I took the next one. 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:15.919 No, yeah, yeah, like those guys, the guys we just 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:20.320 talked about, like Andrews and the two Bucks guys are 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.399 both like okay, third to fifth round draft picks, and 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:26.479 then and then nobody else is getting touched for like 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:30.800 they shouldn't get touched until like round eight or nine. 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:32.520 I see what you're saying. I was talking about just 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:33.840 a Bucks Ravens. 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.120 Draft, Like I'm just yeah, but I'm saying that those two, 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.280 the two Bucks receivers to. 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.520 Me, Andrew, they compete with Andrews, and there's two of them. 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:46.639 Mm hmm, Like I just want any could do with Odell. Well, 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:47.439 I don't know what he is. 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:49.880 You know, I've been doing some of these best ball 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:57.440 underdog Drafts and Flowers, Bateman Odell. Their ADP is like identical, 0:18:57.960 --> 0:18:59.600 which I don't think as a compliment, you. 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:01.240 Know, like because nobody knows. 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.720 Nobody knows if you're the Ravens. If two of those 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:07.600 three don't care who they are are plus starters, you're fine. 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:09.199 But it might take you a while to figure out 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:11.520 who they are. And they all keep the pieces together 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:15.000