1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A shocking roadside discovery. A 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: little boy last scene with a so called depraved illegal 3 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: youth soccer coach is dead. I'm Nancy Grace. This is 4 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: Oscar Omar Hernandez is a thirteen year old student and 6 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: soccer player in Sun Valley, California. 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: Dedicated to his team and the sport. 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: Oscar eagerly agrees to help his coach make jerseys one 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: Friday night, but concerns grow when the thirteen year old 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 2: boy doesn't return home. 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: Thirteen years old, just turned thirteen. He hadn't even lived 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: thirteen years yet, he had only lived twelve years and 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: some days. Why is this little boy dead and callously 14 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: thrown on the side of the road. According to witnesses, 15 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: he was the last seen with his youth soccer coach Listen. 16 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 4: Mister Garcia a Keino was his soccer coach and on 17 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 4: that day Omar Hernandez went up to Lancaster to see 18 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 4: mister Garcia Alkeno. Two days later he was reported missing, 19 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 4: and on April second, twenty twenty five, last week, his 20 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 4: body was found in Oxnard, off the road near Leo 21 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 4: Correo State Beach. 22 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: Oscar Omar is the baby of the Hernandez family. 23 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 5: Thirteen, Oscar has settled into his life in North Hollywood, 24 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 5: known as Omar to his seventh grade classmates at the 25 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 5: Sun Valley Magnet School, he gets good grades and is 26 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 5: well liked, but above all, he's a standout soccer player. 27 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 5: If Oscar isn't helping out at home or in school, 28 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 5: you can find him at the Whitst soccer fields. 29 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: This little boy just turned thirteen, lived and breathed soccer 30 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: just like my son. He was always at the soccer field, 31 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: and we believe that is how he met. According to 32 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: Homeland Security, a depraved illegal alien who was a youth 33 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: soccer coach listen. 34 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 6: Oscar is out playing soccer. Garcia Akino approaches Oscar about 35 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 6: joining the walking Club. When garcia Akino offers him one 36 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 6: on one lessons without charge, Oscar jumps at the chance. 37 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 2: On a Friday afternoon, coach garcia Quino gives his star 38 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: student a call inviting Oscar to make some money doing 39 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: a few odd jobs at his Lancaster home. Oscar, a 40 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: hard worker who would love an addition to his allowance, 41 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 2: is immediately interested before the thirteen year old really gets 42 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: permission from his family, He grabs the next train to Lancaster, 43 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 2: a two hour trip oscar facetimes. His brother j sway 44 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: from the train, telling him coach will drop him back 45 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 2: at home tomorrow morning. 46 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: Joining me an all star panel to make sense of 47 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: what we are learning tonight. But I know this much. 48 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: The body of a thirteen year old little boy who 49 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: trusted his soccer coach implicitly was found thrown by the 50 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: side of the road like trash. But how did he 51 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: get there? What led up to that? Joining me as 52 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: I said, an All Star panel. But first let me 53 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: go to Sierra VanderBrug, crime safety reporter at La Daily News. Sierra, 54 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Tell me about this 55 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: soccer field and how is it that this little boy 56 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: is out there playing when he is approached and befriended 57 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: by an illegal alien soccer coach. 58 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 7: We still have a lot of questions about the process 59 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 7: of Garcia Keno meeting Hernandez, but reports indicate that he 60 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 7: was his soccer coach on a travel boys team located 61 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 7: out here in the San Fernando Valley. Sheriff Robert Luna 62 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 7: here in Los Angeles told us that Garcia Keno worked 63 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 7: as a coach for a youth travel soccer team called 64 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 7: Urancan Valley Boys Soccer Club, where he coached varying age groups. 65 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: You know, I'm very curious as to your take on this. 66 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: Most of Castillo joining me private investigator with the dor 67 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: Duelian Law Group, former supervisor detective with the LAPD. Mister Castillo, 68 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. It sounds like a 69 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: textbook case. A text book case. The boy lives, breathes, 70 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: and AATs soccer when he's not in school, he's at 71 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: the soccer fields, and he is approached by this youth 72 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: soccer coach and now he's dead. Moses, Yes, horrible. 73 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 8: Thank you for having me. 74 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 9: Nancy. 75 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 8: First of all, I want to tell you that these 76 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 8: groomers are great at what they do. Not only do 77 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 8: they earn the trust of the victims that they're targeting, 78 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 8: but they also gained the trust of their parents, their family, 79 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 8: to the point where they let them get on the 80 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 8: train and travel all the way two hours to where 81 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 8: he lives and spend the night. Unbelievable that this even happened, 82 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 8: but that's the reality that these groomors are so good 83 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 8: that they can convince a family to do just that. 84 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: Another thing, Moses Castillo. They dangle in front of the 85 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: children and the family that the child has amazing soccer 86 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: skills or amazing fill in the blank skills, tennis skills, 87 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: football skills, basketball skills, and that they could get a 88 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: college scholarship maybe or maybe even play pro. And for 89 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: a lot of children, I mean, it would have been 90 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: a huge carrot if my family when we were growing up, 91 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, nobody had ever been to college in our family. 92 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: If they thought, wow, she's so good at blank, we 93 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: can get her in college for free. She can get 94 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: tuition and a college education. I mean, that's the kind 95 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: of lure that makes parents believe these coaches. Absolutely. 96 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 8: They tell me Johnny's great player, he's going to be 97 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 8: a star, and so on and so forth. But I 98 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 8: gotta tell you, sources closer to the investigation have told 99 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 8: me that this was a self proclaimed coach. He wasn't certified, 100 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 8: He wasn't registered with any league as a coach whatsoever. 101 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 8: And when the authorities searched his residents, they did find 102 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 8: plato ID cards, They found registration forms, applications, which tells 103 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 8: me that some league gave them access to these children, 104 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 8: and they should never have done that. 105 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: Oh my stars, how did he do it. You're telling 106 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: me that adults believed his scam and let him have 107 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: access to these children. I mean, we know that he 108 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: approached the little boy oscar and said, wow, you're amazing 109 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: and offered him private soccer lessons coaching for free. That 110 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: doesn't happen. My son is a as a soccer player 111 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: and he gets goalie lessons. But through the school, the 112 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: school has a goalie coach that is helping the goalies. 113 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: This guy just walks out onto a soccer field, approaches 114 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: a little boy and says, hey, you're awesome. I'm going 115 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: to give you soccer coaching for free. That's what happened, Moses. 116 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 8: That is crazy. That's bizarre that it went unchecked and 117 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 8: nobody stepped in and said, hey, show me your credentials. 118 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 8: You're not certified. Parents need to be more vigilant and 119 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 8: confirmed these things. Are you going to be the coach? 120 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 8: Show me your credentials, Show me that you've been certified, 121 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 8: that you've been life scanned, that you went through a 122 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 8: background check, that you've been through the training. 123 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: All that was missed, But you know what. You know what? 124 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: Let me go to Karen Stark Guys. Karen is renownedd psychologists, 125 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: joining us out of Manhattan, TV radio trauma expert, and 126 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: you can find her at Karenstark dot com. Karen. Parents 127 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: that are uneducated, and I don't mean didn't go to college. 128 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: I don't mean that, I mean parents like my parents. 129 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: Why would they question that someone's not a soccer coach? Right? Yes, 130 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: it's easy first to say why didn't the parents know? 131 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: Why didn't the parents check him out? But I'm thinking 132 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: back when we were growing up, we were exposed to 133 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: all sorts of adults that didn't have a background check, 134 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: It didn't have credentials. So I don't really blame the 135 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: parents here. 136 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 10: This is somebody who's come across so charismatic outwardly, and 137 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 10: he was considered trusted by these children, these boys, they 138 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 10: thought he was fabulous. 139 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: How would they know anything else? 140 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 10: And the parents believed him. They are so skilled. This 141 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 10: kind of guy is so skilled at coming across that way. 142 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 10: But underneath this is a predator. This is what he wants. 143 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 10: He wants psycho sexual fulfillment, and so he does the 144 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 10: best job he can to convince them they should trust 145 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 10: him with their children. 146 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: You know, Sierra Vanderbrugg is joining us from Daily News. 147 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking at those photos, Sierra, take a 148 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: look at those photos we were just showing. It shows 149 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: the coach with a team. Now, explain to me he 150 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: was He approached a little oscar about joining the club. 151 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: What club? 152 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 7: So we had Sheriff Robert Luna here in Los Angeles 153 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 7: confirming that Garcia Kino worked as a coach for a 154 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 7: youth travel soccer league called the Hurricane Valley Boys Soccer 155 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 7: Club and that as a part of this club, he 156 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 7: coached various age groups. 157 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: Oh, a travel League's that's a lot different. Okay, Sierra, 158 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: explain what is a travel league? 159 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 7: To my understanding, a travel league would be a competitive 160 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 7: team that I would travel around to multiple locations competing 161 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 7: in soccer games. 162 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: Okay, man, And they're not school affiliated. Moses Castillo, my 163 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: son played with a similar league and they don't travel far, 164 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: but they do travel say an hour two hours max 165 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: to play basketball. So it's not really affiliated with a 166 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: school like you were saying. But it's a travel league. 167 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: And I find that really interesting because this coach, this 168 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: coach would then have access to these boys, many of 169 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: them very young and very small, away from the parents. Moses, Yes, 170 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: his move. 171 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 8: Is very, very specific and targeted. He would like to 172 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 8: get these kids alcohol, get them drunk, have them over, sleepovers, 173 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 8: that kind of thing. And some of them would wake 174 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 8: up the next morning feelings like something went wrong, something 175 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 8: happened to them, but they were just too afraid. Who 176 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 8: was shamed to speak up? But this went on for 177 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 8: a long time. 178 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: And they may not have really understood what went wrong. 179 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they wake up and their clothes may be misadjusted, 180 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: or they might feel queasy, but they don't really know 181 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: what happened. It's a nightmare scenario, especially for a little 182 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: boy like this who is just turned thirteen. So herera again, 183 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: how did this suspect meet little Oscar. 184 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 7: It's unclear the specifics of how he exactly met Oscar, 185 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 7: but we've been told that he was his soccer coach, 186 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 7: so previous relationship established as a coach to Oscar. 187 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: Moses Castillo joining me private investigator with the Dordellian Law Group. Moses, 188 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: have you seen the image of the Whitst Park facility. 189 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 8: It's huge, absolutely, That's why these predators they seek these 190 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 8: positions because that's a high victim target ridge environment. And 191 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 8: that's exactly it. I gotta tell you. On the fields 192 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 8: costs money. You have to give permits, you have to 193 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 8: pay for that. And he did this unnoticed, unchecked for years. 194 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 11: Once you see the photos of this individual, that if 195 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 11: you may have been a victim, please come forward. I 196 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 11: know it's not easy. I know it could be either embarrassing, 197 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 11: you don't want to tell somebody, but it's very important 198 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 11: that we bring justice not only to the family here 199 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 11: to my left, but any families that may have been 200 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 11: victimized by this. 201 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: How could a beautiful, young first grade teacher be stabbed 202 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: twenty times, including in the back, allegedly die of suicide? Yes, 203 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: that was a medical examiner's official ruling after a closed 204 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: door meeting. He first named it a homicide. Why what 205 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: happened to Ellen Greenberg? A huge American miscarriage of justice. 206 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: For an in depth look at the facts, see what 207 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: Happened to Ellen on Amazon. All proceeds to the National 208 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: Center for Missing and Exploited Children. 209 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: Thirteen year old Oscar Omar Hernandez eagerly takes the train 210 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: from his home in Sun Valley to Palmade California with 211 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: the hopes of helping out his coach make jerseys for 212 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: the team, But twenty four hours later, Oscar still hasn't 213 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 2: returned home, despite claims from his coach that he dropped 214 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: the team off. 215 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: This is what we know right now. According to Homeland Security, 216 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: the coach is actually a quote depraved illegal alien. Their words, 217 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: not mine. Why do they say that? And how did 218 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: this little boy end up hours away from home with 219 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: the soccer coach? Listen? 220 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 6: Later that night, Hossway tries to call Oscar again, but 221 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 6: it's not his little brother that answers. Garcia Akino picks up, 222 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 6: saying Oscar can't come to the phone because his hands 223 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 6: are dirty. Ho Suay tries to ask exactly what time 224 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 6: he can expect Oscar home, but the coach waves him 225 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 6: off once again, promising he'll bring Oscar home in a 226 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 6: reasonable time Saturday. 227 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: No, we were talking earlier, and I believe it was you, 228 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: Moses Castillo, And I understand why you said it that. 229 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: Why didn't the parents check this guy out? Why didn't 230 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: they ask for a background shit where he was certified? Well, 231 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're going to remember the name, 232 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: Jerry said, Dusky that was ultimately accused of Oh, I 233 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: don't even know how many molestations, Listen, I. 234 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 9: Was kind of thinking that he was going to get 235 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 9: off scott free with this, and then I'm just going 236 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 9: to be another kid in the front page and the 237 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 9: newspaper that has a big liar stamped across his for him. 238 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 11: The amount the damage he did and the number of 239 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 11: people that he arms is something that I don't know. 240 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 12: I don't know that anybody. 241 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: From our friends at ABC and CBS. I mean, for 242 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: Pete's sake, Karen Stark, when Castillo rightfully is saying, well, 243 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: did the parents check him out? That would be an 244 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: obvious question. We parents trust the coach, We trust the school, 245 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: right they trusted the youth league as it is called. 246 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: Here you had Jerry Sandusky, the long time, renowned, venerable coach, 247 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: the winner, and all this time he had been raping 248 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: boys in his charge, and everybody was too afraid to 249 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: say anything about. 250 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 10: It, especially especially when you think about it, Nancy. The 251 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 10: boys it's not just they weren't sure of what happened 252 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 10: in this case when they stayed overnight. It's also that 253 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 10: children are afraid to report these predators. They're in a 254 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 10: position of a started. We're talking about a coach. We're 255 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 10: talking about some someone who was very well known. The 256 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 10: parents completely trust them. Why shouldn't they, I mean everyone, you. 257 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: Know, jumping off what you just said, Karen, coach Jerry Sandusky. 258 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: It wasn't that he was just a Pennsylvania state assistant 259 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: football coach, but he gave summer training to Pennsylvania's underprivileged 260 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: and at risk youth. That is where he met most 261 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: of his victims, right and they were about the age 262 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: of Oscar, the little boy Oscar that we're talking about 263 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: right now, Dubay forty five counts of sex abuse. And 264 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: look who he targeted. He targeted at risk little boys, 265 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: boys that were underprivileged boys whose parents were probably both 266 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: working or had a one parent in the home who 267 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: was working and was just happy that their child had 268 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: been picked by Sandusky to go too. He is the 269 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: second mile sports camp for underprivileged use. They probably thought, debate, 270 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: they were so lucky to get their child in the 271 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: summer camp. 272 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 13: Sandusky had a knack for picking out unsophisticated, uncultured people, 273 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 13: and he would also garner him the sympathy, the respect, 274 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 13: and the admiration of their parents, so nobody had a 275 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 13: problem with him being a part of their lives. But 276 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 13: unbeknownst to everybody, in a dark sort of hinter grund, 277 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 13: as we say, he was actually laying hands on these kids. 278 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 13: He had abnormal sexual perversions, and nobody really knew it 279 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 13: was going on. And these kids had a work sense 280 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 13: of achievement and accomplishment and kind of went along with it, 281 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 13: to get along, if you will. And it wasn't until 282 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 13: one kid cried foul and said, no, take your hands 283 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 13: off me, that the story blew wide open. So it 284 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 13: takes one kid for this whole thing to really come 285 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 13: to a halt. Unfortunately, there was a kid that was 286 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 13: courageous enough to come forward. Now Sandusky will spend the 287 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 13: rest of his life in prison. 288 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: I hope you're sitting down. He served in this capacity 289 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: twenty two years as the defensive coordinator twenty two years 290 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: assistant coach at Penn State. He received the Assistant Coach 291 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: of the Year twice. He authored multiple books related to 292 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: his football coaching experiences. He founded this nonprofit, The Second Mile, 293 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: for Pennsylvania's underprivileged children, and after he retired from Penn State, 294 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: he continued working with second Mile, on and on and on. 295 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: It took a grand jury, a secret grand jury, two 296 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: years to investigate him. He was charged with fifty two 297 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: counts of sex abuse over fifteen years that we know of. 298 00:18:54,080 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: The children were all afraid to come forward, much like this, listen. 299 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 9: I was kind of thinking that he was going to 300 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 9: get off scott free with this, and then I'm just 301 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 9: going to be another kid in the front page of 302 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 9: the newspaper that has a big liar stamped across his forehead. 303 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: Now from our friends at ABC twenty twenty and here 304 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: it seems as if history is repeating itself again. Two. 305 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: Doctor Michelle Dupree joining me, a renowned forensic pathologists, medical examiner, 306 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: former detective at Lexington County Sheriff's Department, author of a 307 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: brand new book, Money, Mischief and Murder The Murdock Dynasty 308 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: the rest of the story, but from my purposes. She 309 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: is also the author of the Homicide Investigation Field Guide 310 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: and the Child Abuse Investigation Field Guide. I'm curious because 311 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: we see here doctor Dupree, according to investigative reports that 312 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: we've obtained, the coach and I'm saying that in quotes 313 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: the illegal alien co coach first of all be friend 314 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: of the little boy at the Whitsit Park complex, offering 315 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: free soccer lessons. But then the lure went further. He 316 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: lured the little boy by saying he had odd jobs 317 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: for him at his place and that he would pay him. 318 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: So I understanding he was going to work on making 319 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: jerseys or monogramming jerseys, or something to do with the 320 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: soccer jerseys. So now you've got a little boy just 321 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: turned thirteen, alone on transit, going two hours away from 322 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: home to be alone with the coach at his house. 323 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: Quote making jerseys. Crime stories with Nancy Grace, doctor Michelle Dupree, 324 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: You've sadly worked on so many child on the side cases. 325 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: And that is the mo the modus operandi, the method 326 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: of operation. You get the child alone, whether you like 327 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: I was talking to Sierra VanderBrug earlier, whether you get 328 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: them in your vehicle, your truck, your camper, whether you 329 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: lure them to your home. You get the child alone, 330 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: and that is where everything goes sideways. How many cases 331 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: have you seen homicide cases where the child is lured away? 332 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 14: Nancy, this is a common scenario. Is this is exactly 333 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 14: how they operate. They initially meet the child. They're very personable. 334 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 14: Most of these people are personable. They are liked by 335 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 14: the kids, they're liked by the families. They gain their trust, 336 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 14: and once they gain that trust, it's a little bit 337 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 14: out of time. They continue to befriend them, continue to 338 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 14: offer them a carot if you will, and a bigger 339 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 14: reward for something. And children are trusting, you know, children, 340 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 14: I don't think like adults. In most cases, they trust adults, 341 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 14: and oftentimes they won't tell if something is a little 342 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 14: bit suspicious because they don't know. And also this is 343 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 14: an adult. They wonder when anybody really believe me or not. 344 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 14: So this is not uncommon. This is their method of operation, 345 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 14: and unfortunately it works way too many times. 346 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: Don't do dupree. I never cried, I never got sick. 347 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: I never vomited nothing at the site of a dead 348 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: body or on a homicide scene ever. But there was 349 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: one time I thought I was going to throw up. 350 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: I didn't, and it was when a child was on 351 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: the autopsy table. When you see children on the autopsy 352 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: table over and over and over, it's like, I know 353 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: right now, I'm preaching to the choir, but parents don't 354 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: get it. I mean, my parents didn't get it. I 355 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: was left with adults and supervised that we really didn't know. 356 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: And through the grace of God, nothing happened to me 357 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: or my brother or sister. But parents are trusting, especially 358 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: when the molester is clothed with clothed with the indisha 359 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: of reliability. He's wearing a soccer uniform. You've got to 360 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: see pictures of him with teams like we're showing you. 361 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: But he was not with a school, he was not sanctioned, 362 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: nothing like that. And I mean, do you ever get weary, 363 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: doctor Duprees seeing one child on the autopsy table after. 364 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 14: The next all the time. Nancy. It's one of the 365 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 14: worst cases a medical examiner could ever have. Children and elderly. 366 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 14: You know, they're supposed to be protected, they're trusting, and 367 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 14: they should be, but it doesn't often work out well. 368 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 14: And this is one of the reasons why. And yes, 369 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 14: it gets to me and it gets to others every 370 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 14: single time. This should not be happening to our kids. 371 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: Oscar's family is worried, sick after more than a day 372 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 2: with no sign of their thirteen year old son. 373 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 3: And soccer student. 374 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: The boys soccer coach promises he dropped the teen off, 375 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: but Oscar is nowhere to be found. Then a mysterious 376 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: text from Oscar's phone claiming the thirteen year old is 377 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: at a party with friends joining me. 378 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: Now is Anna sonoda clinical social worker who focuses on 379 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: forensic issues like this, and she's the author of Duck 380 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: Duck Groom. Anna, this is the textbook the seminal example 381 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: of luring. You heard me lay out. First, he was 382 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: approached at a Whitst soccer complex which is huge, and says, hey, 383 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: free one on one coaching for soccer because you're so amazing. 384 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: Oscar just turned thirteen. Then he lures him to his house. 385 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: Then he won't respond appropriately to the family. Now we're 386 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 1: hearing about a text, a text from a little Oscar 387 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: that says he was going to a party with friends. 388 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it would be a cold day in HG 389 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: double l that my children, who are now seventeen, would 390 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: just announce they were going to a party with friends. 391 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: That doesn't happen. I mean, I've got to know where 392 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: are you going with, who, who's driving, when you're going 393 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: to be home, what's the location? Have fun? Right? So 394 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 1: you know, Anna, I strongly believe that the coach was 395 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: texting as if he was Oscar, the little boy. 396 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 15: Absolutely, we have several examples here of a grooming situation. 397 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 15: What does that mean? What does that word grooming mean? 398 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 15: We've said it a few times already. This show grooming 399 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 15: is a perverse form of courtship. It convinces not only children, 400 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 15: but it convinces their caregivers that they are trustworthy, that 401 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 15: they're reliable, and that they're caring. This coach exploited his 402 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 15: role as a sports youth individual in order to show 403 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 15: the parents and the kids, hey, you can trust me. 404 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 15: I want what's best for you. And to single that 405 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 15: child out as special and unique is classics favoritism that 406 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 15: we see in the stages towards the grooming process for 407 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 15: sexual exploitation and in this horrific case, ultimately murder. 408 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: And of course, at this juncture, the family doesn't know 409 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: what to believe, even that they get this mystery text 410 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 1: of a little boy claiming, Hey, I'm going to a party? 411 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: What party? Mama heard anything about a party? Well, the 412 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: search is now on for little Oscar. 413 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 2: A desperate joint agency search for Oscar begins. Both the 414 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 2: LAPD and LA County Sheriff's Office scoured North Hollywood for 415 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 2: the boy. Their only lead was that he was last 416 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: seen on his way to Lancaster on the metrolink. 417 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: A massive search is on both LAPD and the La 418 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Office looking for little Oscar. Listen. 419 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: On the fourth day of the investigation, a teen boy's 420 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: body is found over seventy miles away, dumped in a 421 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: wooded area off a road near Leo Carrillo State Beach. 422 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 2: The remains are confirmed to be those of thirteen year 423 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 2: old Oscar Omar Hernandez. 424 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: I can't believe my son is dead. That is from 425 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: our friends at Katla five. And very quickly after the 426 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: body is discovered, the coach is tracked down. 427 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 12: Why couldn't at least do anything upout my case? And 428 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 12: they just left it open and then they have to 429 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 12: get to a teenage boy getting killed. 430 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 5: The same day Oscar's body is discovered, his soccer coach, 431 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 5: forty three year old Mario Garcia Akino, is arrested, but 432 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 5: not in connection to Oscar. Garcia Akino is accused of 433 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 5: attempting to molest a sixteen year old boy. The teen 434 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 5: also spent the night and felt extremely sleepy after drinking 435 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 5: an orange juice. Garcia Akino offered him old police. Garcia 436 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 5: Akino twice tried to pull down his pants, but he 437 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 5: fought garcia Akino off and called nine one one. The 438 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 5: incident occurred more than a year ago in February of 439 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 5: twenty twenty four. 440 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 2: Oscar's family hasn't seen the boy in over twenty four 441 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 2: hours after he was. 442 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 3: Expected home Saturday morning. 443 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: A text from his phone claims Oscar is at a 444 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 2: party with friends, but Oscar's friends don't have any knowledge. 445 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 3: Of a party. 446 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 2: The thirteen year old has reported missing, and an intense 447 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 2: search is launched for the boy. 448 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: Karen Stark, don't you see the significance of this mysterious 449 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: text from the little boys and I'm going to a party? 450 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: And then can't you just say the mom and the 451 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: brother calling hey what party? 452 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 5: Hey? 453 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: What party? To all the friends and they know nothing 454 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: about it. This means I believe that the coach was 455 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: using the little boy's phone to text as if he's Oscar. 456 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: That's a whole nother level of premeditation, and we're familiar 457 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: with it. 458 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 10: Nancy, remember Brian Laundry, right, And he took the phone 459 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 10: and he made the mistake of calling the grand by 460 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 10: the name. People do that, Murderers do that. They take 461 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 10: advantage of whatever they can. I'm not the least bit 462 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 10: surprised because this guy needs to cover up. He's desperate 463 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 10: to make sure that nobody finds out what he did. 464 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 10: And I'm not surprised to happen because over time, in 465 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 10: this kind of situation, the person gets bolder and bolder 466 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 10: and bolder. 467 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened here. Now you hear Philip 468 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: Dubay claiming that, oh, it was just a delight, b 469 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: s a delay that cost Oscar his life. Listened to 470 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: one of the first alleged victims. 471 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 12: I go to sleep, I see him like trying to 472 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 12: pull down my shorts and I woke up. I proused 473 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 12: him and he told me it was all the Joe. 474 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 11: In February of twenty twenty four, Garcia Aquino befriended a 475 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 11: Silmar family who allowed their juvenile son to stay with 476 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 11: him at his residence in Palmdale. The family subsequently filed 477 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 11: a criminal report with the Palmdale Sheriff's Station alleging sexual 478 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 11: abuse of their child, Moses Christilla. 479 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: I think my head's gonna blow off. That originally was 480 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: from our friends at NBC LA. Now you heard, But 481 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what dog he's got in the fight 482 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: with skin in the game because normally he is on 483 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: LA law enforcement like a cheap suit. But today, when 484 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: it works in the defense's favor, it's like, oh, it 485 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: was just a mistake. Did you hear the first boy? Well, 486 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: probably not the first one of the prior molestation victims. 487 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: I go to sleep, I see him trying to pull 488 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: my down my shorts. I woke up. I punched him, 489 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: and he told me it was a joke. Absolutely. 490 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 8: As a sex crime detective I was for twenty years 491 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 8: with LAPD, this breaks my heart. We did drop the 492 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 8: ball on this poor victim. The case was submitted to 493 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 8: the d's office electronically and hist under queue, untouched for months. 494 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 8: That's what sources familiar with the investigation have told me. 495 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 8: And when the investigators called the disease office to follow up, 496 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 8: they realized that nobody had looked at this case for 497 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 8: a long time. And that's where we dropped the ball. 498 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: Oh you know what, I don't like what you just said, 499 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: Castillo drop the ball. That's like oops, I dropped the ball. 500 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: This is abandoned and malignant heart dropped the ball. Oscar 501 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: is dead because somebody dropped the ball Ana Sonota. That's 502 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: not all listen. 503 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 11: Detectives learned that there was another unrelated child sexual abuse 504 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 11: case being handled by the Los Angeles Police Department's Foothill 505 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 11: Division involving Garcia Aquino. On April second, twenty twenty five, 506 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 11: the new information from both the Sheriff's Department and the 507 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 11: Police Department cases, the District Attorney Office filed one felony 508 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 11: count of assault with intent to commit a sexual offense 509 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 11: on Mario Garcia. He was taken into custody in the 510 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 11: city of Los Angeles and he was then subsequently transferred 511 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,719 Speaker 11: to the custody of the Sheriff's Department. 512 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:32,479 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Teos here at Vanderbrook joining 513 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: us from the Los Angeles Daily News Sierra how many 514 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: at this juncture? How many young boy victims do we 515 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: know of? At this point? 516 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 7: We know that there were two charges filed against Garcia A. 517 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 7: Keno now in relation to previous sex abuse cases, one 518 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 7: from twenty twenty two and one from twenty twenty four. 519 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 7: But during this press conference, we did hear. Sheriff Robert 520 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 7: Luna emphasized that police and sheriff department believe that there 521 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 7: may be more victims. They are searching for more victims. 522 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 7: Anyone with information or who believes they've been a victim 523 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 7: of Garciaqino. They asked contact them and that they were. 524 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: Looking at everything. 525 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 7: Authorities believe there may be more assault victims or missing 526 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 7: persons connected to Garciaqino. They are open, they are looking 527 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 7: for both. 528 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: Okay, everybody sitting down, You may need to lay down 529 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: for this too. Listen to the La County Sheriff Robert Luna. 530 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 11: Garcia Quino was a youth travel soccer coach with the 531 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 11: Hurricane Valley Boys Soccer Club in the Silmar area, working 532 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 11: with different age divisions. He had no reported criminal history. 533 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: BS and you know, Sheriff Leuna, I like you, I 534 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: do anything against you. But why did you just say 535 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: that he had no reported criminal history? Did you not 536 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: just hear the boy victim? That happened over a year 537 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: ago and nothing was done. So while there's not a conviction, 538 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: there is un arrest, there is an allegation let me rephrase, 539 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: fell on the assault with intent to commit a lude 540 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: act twenty twenty two felon the assault with intent to 541 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: commit rape lud act on a child age fourteen or fifteen. 542 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: Those are the ones that we have been able to 543 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: dig up. How many more are out there? I mean, 544 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, Moses Castillo, isn't it true step statistically when 545 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: a child molester is caught once that there are dozens 546 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 1: of prior undetected child molestations. Absolutely. 547 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 8: That's why the message here today is if you're out 548 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 8: there and you're a victim of this evil monster, please 549 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 8: come forward. It was never your fault, and I want 550 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 8: you to know that one hundred percent, and you have 551 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 8: the support of the victim services that are going to 552 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 8: be coming for you and available to you. 553 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: Nothing was done on prior claims of child molestation against 554 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: the so called traveling coach. Nothing was done, The files 555 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: gathered dust, and now a little boy is dead and 556 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: his body thrown on the side of the road. Listen, 557 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: we don't. 558 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 4: Have the actual details of how he was killed at 559 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 4: this exact moment, nor do we have all the reports 560 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 4: that will come in when the coroner. 561 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: Produces his They've already performed an autopsy and it turned 562 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 2: out there was a lot of alcohol in his urine. 563 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 12: This is a stable. 564 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 3: That's the only thing left to investigate is whether he 565 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 3: was sexually imputed. 566 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: The things and my boys drink and I'm sure of 567 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: that why because he didn't resist, guys. That is from 568 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: our friends at Univision thirty four LA. It's almost more 569 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: than I can take in what we are hearing, Doctor 570 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: Michelle Dupree. The boy found on the side of the 571 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: road like his trash. I imagine days had passed. Are 572 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: we going to be able to get a CEOD cause 573 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: of death and we'll be able to Will we be 574 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: able to tell had the boy been molested? 575 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 14: Yes, Nancy, I think we will. We can often tell 576 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 14: so much even though time has passed, and in this case, 577 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 14: it's likely that we did find alcohol in the blood. 578 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 14: But we're also probably going to be able to tell 579 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 14: that he may have been strangled or certainly if there 580 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 14: was any type of blunt force trauma, which is typical 581 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 14: in cases like this, especially the strangulation. 582 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: So how long will alcohol still be in the victim's system. 583 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 14: It can be in there for days, Nancy. If we 584 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 14: can't get it in the blood, we can take it 585 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 14: from the vitreous, which is an excellent long term way 586 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 14: to get this kind of toxicology report. 587 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: Vitreous is what. 588 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 14: Vitreous is, the fluid inside the eyeball. It's well protected. 589 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 14: It gives us a very good pre mortem indication of 590 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 14: many things like electrolytes or alcohol content. 591 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: Okay, let me just warn the LA District Attorney, do 592 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 1: not jump on the bandwagon. But apparently he is listen. 593 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 8: If he had been arrested on that earlier alleged defense, 594 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 8: he wouldn't have been on the streets, and he certainly 595 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 8: would not be working as a coach. 596 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 4: In order to develop the evidence for any particular offense, 597 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 4: as we will be providing in court. It doesn't happen overnight. 598 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 4: So even though that original offense occurred back in February 599 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 4: of twenty twenty four, that investigated started approximately within I 600 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 4: forgot within weeks of that particular investigation. But you have 601 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 4: to actually go through all the different parts of an 602 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 4: investigation before you ever get to it. 603 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 5: Why would the government, knowing he had such an accusation, 604 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 5: allow him to be free? 605 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, why would they? That's where our friends at KTLA five. 606 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: You know, as much tap dancing as the DA's doing. 607 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: He need to just admit the truth. There's no way 608 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 1: to fix this now. They dropped the ball. As Castillo 609 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: said earlier, why is it that we so willingly trust 610 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: sports coaches named Larry Nasser? I wish I never heard it, sir. 611 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: If what you did and touching these. 612 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 7: Victims in all of these accounts was ungloved. 613 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: Is that correct? 614 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 12: Yes, you fear that her. 615 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: And it was not for any medical purpose? Is that correct? 616 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 7: It was for your own purpose? 617 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 15: Is that correct? 618 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:19,959 Speaker 9: Yes? 619 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: I don't want another young gymnast, Olympic athlete, or any 620 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: individual to experience the horror that I and hundreds of 621 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: others have endured. One of my heroes right there, Simone Biles. 622 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 1: That was from our friends at NBC. Just think about it. 623 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: At that elite level, an Olympic coach molesting scores of 624 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: young girls, some as young as thirteen. I can hardly 625 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: stand to look at him. He makes me sick just 626 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: to look at him. Girls representing our country. This little 627 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: boy is dead, his body thrown on the side of 628 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: the road and behind bars. The description by Homeland Security 629 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: is a depraved illegal alien. There's no telling how many 630 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: little boys were molested by him, and he had an 631 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,959 Speaker 1: a sonoda unfattered access to them. 632 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 15: Absolutely, predators run on gas, grooming access, and space. Coaches, 633 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 15: especially travel coaches, have an exceptional amount of gas. They 634 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 15: get time away with the child, they built trust with 635 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 15: the parents. In Nancy, parents are good, parents are doing 636 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 15: what they can. This family had high hopes for what 637 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 15: this sports coach was going to be able to do 638 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 15: for their son. How many countless families are in the 639 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 15: same position, and predators, by golly, they know it and 640 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 15: they exploit that every time. 641 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 1: You know, Karen Stark, I'm not sure if I told 642 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: you about this, but I remember a Methodist lay leader 643 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: who was a college professor came and spoke at our 644 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: church and promised to coach me free, because you know, 645 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: we were broke Spanish private Spanish coaching, and my parents 646 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: let me, along with my sister go to this guy's 647 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: home with his family that was an hour away. And 648 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it. My parents were so happy that 649 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: I could get this private coaching in Spanish. Was taking 650 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 1: Spanish at school. It's just like that point. It was 651 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: in the fifth grade and they thought, oh, something we 652 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: can't afford that we can give her. So it's it's 653 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 1: not the parent's fault, and I don't want to portray 654 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: that way. 655 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,280 Speaker 10: It's not the parent's fault, Nancy. That's so correct, because 656 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 10: we're talking about master manipulators. They are charming. Their exterior 657 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 10: is trusting. They act like you can trust them with 658 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 10: your children, and parents are looking for help. They're in 659 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 10: a position of authority in that way, and you can't 660 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 10: count on the children. Unfortunately. Parents believe that maybe their 661 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 10: children would tell them that something was wrong, but the 662 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 10: children are afraid. They don't understand, they don't know how 663 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 10: to come forward, they don't even have the words for 664 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 10: it developmentally. So it is a terrible problem, really a 665 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 10: terrible problem that parents need to be aware of and 666 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 10: investigate who's with your children beforehand. 667 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: Guys, let me announce that there is a gofund me 668 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: for Oscar Hernandez's family. They're just trying to get money 669 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,040 Speaker 1: to pay off the funeral. It's at go fund me 670 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: dot com Oscar Omar Hernandez. Right now, the state is 671 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: building its case, and when I say building its case, 672 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: I mean looking for other child victims. I believe that 673 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: these other child victims will testify in a court of 674 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: law under the theory of similar transactions to bolster the state's 675 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: case in the murder of Little Oscar. The state is 676 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: also looking for these victims and looking for witnesses to 677 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: possibly seeing the coach with Little Oscar. If you know 678 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: or think you know anything about this case, please dial 679 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: eight one eight three seven four five to four one 680 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 1: five or toll free eight hundred two two two A 681 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: four to seven seven repeat eight hundred two two two 682 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: eight four seven seven. I believe that's the number I 683 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: would use because the States already dropped the ball on 684 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 1: the case already. I would go with crime Stoppers. And 685 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,320 Speaker 1: now we remember an American hero, Deputy Sheriff Levy Petway, 686 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 1: Lownes County Sheriff's Alabama, passed away in the line of duty, 687 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: survived by his wife after twelve years serving LA law enforcement. 688 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: American hero Deputy Sheriff Levy Petway