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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the New York Post.

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Speaker 3: Over the years, they have loved to publish photos of

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Speaker 3: war and put away hundreds of not thousands, of gang

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: Over the weekend, Trump and Tom Holman the borders are.

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Speaker 3: They sent hundreds of gang members and other undesirables to L. Salvador,

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Speaker 3: Because Trump invoked the Alien Enemies Act of seventeen ninety eight,

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Speaker 3: which I'm sure you haven't heard of. Let's talk with

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Speaker 3: Art Arthur here. He's with the Center for Immigration Studies.

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Speaker 3: Here's their national security and immigration expert, and Art can

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Speaker 1: How are you hey, I'm doing fine, John, Thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for having me today.

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Speaker 2: It's good to have you on.

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Speaker 3: Explain under what laws Trump was able to deport these

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Speaker 3: I know there's a judge who tried to stop the flights,

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Speaker 3: but they said, whoops, too late already there. Just go

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Speaker 1: So yeh, John, And you know, it's important to note

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Speaker 1: cooperate with US government officials and taking bad people, in

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Speaker 1: very few countries actually want any additional criminals. They many

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Speaker 1: But in this particular instance, and shortly after he took office,

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Speaker 1: Rubio met with President Naive bu Kelly of El Salvador

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Speaker 1: and President Boukela, you know, is a very good partner

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Speaker 1: So that's why those planes were landing in San Salvador

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Speaker 3: Now a judge stepped in and wanted the plane flights stopped,

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Speaker 3: There's nothing anybody can do.

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Speaker 3: Is that the way it's gonna rest. That these guys

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Speaker 1: So the judging question is Jed Boseburg, who's the chief

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Speaker 2: How does that play out?

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Speaker 1: We do have a strange standoff, and you know, really

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Speaker 3: This only works if everybody decides they're going to play along.

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Speaker 3: Can you hang on for another Art I want to

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Speaker 3: continue discussing this Art Arthur Center for Immigration Studies. He's

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Speaker 3: We continue with Art Arthur Center for Immigration Studies. He's

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Speaker 3: Nahib Bukelly keeps the worst, most violent criminals. Look up

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Speaker 1: So the Alien Enemies Actor, the AEA was enacted in

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Speaker 3: Kim wrote, I ask you to use every communication platform.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 4: six forty.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even finish the Karen Bass story about her

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Speaker 3: supporters going on the offensive and pacifically. The chief of

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Speaker 3: staff to the city council president to the useless Marquis

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Speaker 3: Harris Stawson again acting there the day of the fire.

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Speaker 3: So he's got this Joe Anne Kim, who's the chief

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Speaker 3: of staff, and she sends out this rally around Karen

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Speaker 3: Bass email.

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Speaker 2: And I forgot to.

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Speaker 3: She said that these attacks against Bass are highly partisan,

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Speaker 3: amplified by a hard right media apparatus. I don't know

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Speaker 3: what that would be, and rooted in racism.

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Speaker 6: Hah, it had to be that people in the palisades

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Speaker 6: are angry because Karen Bass is black, not because their

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Speaker 6: home burned to the ground.

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Speaker 3: Do you understand that those are even Pacific palisades? According

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Speaker 3: to Joe and Kim, it's because you're a racist that

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Speaker 3: you're angry at Karen.

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Speaker 2: Bess probably didn't know that.

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Speaker 3: You probably thought it's because she ran off to Ghana

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Speaker 3: while you're home burned to the ground and nobody from

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Speaker 3: the fire department showed up. Ah, you're wrong. This is

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Speaker 3: exactly why the right is coming after her. It's why

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Speaker 3: they're using any means they can, like this windstorm. Oh,

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Speaker 3: the firestorm has been diagraded to a windstorm. They're using

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Speaker 3: any means they can to attack her. They know that

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Speaker 3: Karen puts people first. Maybe the president of Ghana. She

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Speaker 3: put him first?

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Speaker 2: Is that crazy?

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Speaker 3: And that last quote came from Vahed krsand the president

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Speaker 3: of the Board of Public Works. Wow, he got on

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Speaker 3: a zoom webinar to praise the mayor for the recovery process.

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Speaker 3: By the way, she did go public and say that,

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Speaker 3: you know, they got a lot of it cleaned up

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Speaker 3: in the first twenty eight days. Phase one is over.

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Speaker 3: And she kind of stood there and took the glory.

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Speaker 3: That was all the federal government. That was the EPA

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Speaker 3: and the Army Corps of Engineers. Karen passed had nothing

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Speaker 3: federal government. Yes, you know, he's right, that's that's why

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Speaker 3: everybody's going after her. They're going after her because of race,

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Speaker 3: and they're going after her because Karen puts people first.

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Speaker 3: What does it even mean Karen puts people first. Also,

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Speaker 3: a strategist for the bass reelection campaign is some loser

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Speaker 3: named Doug Herman. Imagine having this job, what do you do.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to get Karen bass reelected. Really she's the running.

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Speaker 3: Doug Herman says that mayor's closest allies will rally behind

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Speaker 3: her in the face of a recall, he said the

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Speaker 3: mayor's team. The mayor's team did not ask Joan Kim

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Speaker 3: or Vahid Corsand to advocate on her behalf right, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I believe that there was no coordination at all. They

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Speaker 3: embarrassed themselves entirely on their own. This is going to

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Speaker 3: be a very entertaining year. Karen Bass tries to get

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Speaker 3: us to forget there was a fire. There was never

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Speaker 3: a fire because they never found a cause. And if

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Speaker 3: there's no cause, then there was no fire. All right,

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