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Speaker 1: Looking for him. Welcome to Week ten of the NFL season.

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Speaker 1: Week Tens Flying, Isn't that crazy? This is the twenty

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Speaker 1: in the Huddle podcast. I am Tim Twentyman, your host

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Speaker 1: and joining me this week for the Keys to the

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Speaker 1: Game element is Colton Pouncy does a great job the

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Speaker 1: Lions beat writer for the Athletic. Thanks for joining me.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so the.

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Speaker 1: Three keys every week to what's expected be really a

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Speaker 1: great game in Houston. I mean, you look at the

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Speaker 1: Texans six and three, and a lot of similarities Colton,

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Speaker 1: between these teams when I look at your coaches who

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Speaker 1: are former players, have that kind of players coach, you know, mentality,

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Speaker 1: young rosters that are up and coming. Two teams that

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Speaker 1: look like they're gonna be good for a long time.

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Speaker 1: You excited about Sunday Night.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, this would be a good matchup. I'll love the

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Speaker 2: way these teams are kind of built through the draft.

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Speaker 2: Like you mentioned, the young rosters, the.

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Speaker 4: Young top they have.

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Speaker 2: They play hard, and they play for their head coaches,

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Speaker 2: and I think they kind of take on the identity

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Speaker 2: of you know, Nico Ryans over there and Dan Campbell

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Speaker 2: here in Detroit, So yeah, they definitely kind of take

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Speaker 2: after these teams.

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Speaker 1: Well, Demigo Ryans the defensive coordinator obviously Dan Campbell with

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Speaker 1: that offensive mindset, and that really leads to the first

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Speaker 1: key for this one. I think what's going to be

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Speaker 1: a terrific matchup is Detroit's number one ranked offense against

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Speaker 1: the number two ranked overall defense in Houston. What a

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Speaker 1: terrific matchup to strength on strengths.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, you know, we'll see if will Anderson is

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Speaker 2: able to go. I think he's been kind of missed

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Speaker 2: in practice, but they got some studs over there on

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Speaker 2: that defense man. They do a really good job defending

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Speaker 4: I think they only allowed to.

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Speaker 2: Eighty one yards per game something like that, so there's

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Speaker 2: still any defense man that's gonna be tough to score

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Speaker 2: against them. At the same time, I think this line's offense,

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Speaker 2: I mean, the weapons they have. Jamison Williams is gonna

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Jared Goss on some kind of heater obviously,

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Speaker 1: They're fourth in sacks with twenty nine. They've defended fifty

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Speaker 2: It really is. I mean, I think it starts with

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Speaker 2: They've got some really good cornerbacks. I love Stanley over there.

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Speaker 1: Indoors, I think they have their their you know, red

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. You know, last week it felt like

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Speaker 1: I think they take a shot.

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Speaker 1: I think so too. I think you know, yeah, Ben

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Speaker 1: Should be fun. Absolutely, all right, let's move over to

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Speaker 1: We didn't see it last week obviously. This week huge

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Speaker 1: news made the trade for Zidarius Smith now at thirty

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Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, I think credit the lines

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Speaker 2: If they want to just tosk him out there for

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Speaker 1: But I guess we'll see, you know, and you look

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Speaker 2: you did readers to strop them there, Levi, the linebackers

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Speaker 1: Now, and you can cover behind it. And that's the key, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this secondary is so improved that safety duel

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Speaker 1: You don't just blitz the blitz. You blitz knowing that

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Speaker 1: Our third key is something that you talked about that

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Speaker 2: They're second in yards per game allowed, but I think

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Speaker 1: How does that even make sense? Are you good at

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Speaker 1: everything else and then you're giving touchdowns away in the

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Speaker 1: red zone at a seventy percent clip Colton.

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Speaker 2: Whereas the Lions they do go from the yards, but

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Speaker 2: you really have to play a lot of man coverage.

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Speaker 2: It's one on one, So can you win your responsibilities?

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Speaker 2: I think the Lions have done that defensively. Texans, they

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Speaker 2: kind of win, you know, outside of the twenties, but

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Speaker 2: they've been beat there inside the twenty and it seems

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Speaker 2: like the Lions obviously are really productive red zone offense

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to your point, I saw this on X from

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Speaker 1: one of the Houston guys. I think they've allowed nineteen

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Speaker 1: passing touchdowns this year. They allowed seventeen all of last year.

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Speaker 1: of those scores. Detroit sixty three point three percent inside

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Speaker 1: by you is to watch what happens in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: That's going to be the key. That's where Houston's allowed

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Speaker 1: Can you convert those plays? Can you get those four

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Speaker 1: Brock right tight end. I figured it was Houston week,

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Speaker 1: so why not get a Houston native? Right, Cyprus, Texas?

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Speaker 1: How far is that from Houston?

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Speaker 4: About thirty minutes from downtown.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so suburb of Houston. You grew up a giant

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Speaker 5: Yeah that's right. Yeah, whole childhood, love going to games

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Speaker 1: So the family at your Sunday night is prime time?

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Speaker 1: How many family you got going here? Your dad got

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Speaker 5: So though my parents are gonna be hosting probably about

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Speaker 1: How fun is that going to be? Obviously just getting

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Speaker 4: It's really fun.

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Speaker 1: And just playing on Sunday night football. Obviously, you guys

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Speaker 1: Those So, how much of the family are going to

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Speaker 1: There's no rogue uncle that's a die hard.

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Speaker 4: No, no, not a chance.

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Speaker 1: So you were, you know, one of the top tight

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Speaker 1: I want to take you back to the off season.

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Speaker 1: What jumps out about Houston? You know, do you look

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they have a great defense, They're good at holding

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Speaker 1: How big was a game like last week outdoors and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's the perfect way to put it.

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Speaker 1: What were you growing up? Were you always a tight end?

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Speaker 1: You guys are off to a terrific start seven to one,

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Speaker 1: nothing special plan, nothing.

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Speaker 4: I don't know yet. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Stayinkoy, I like it. Don't go away with the plan.

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Speaker 1: But something tells me you will be part of a

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Speaker 1: big play Sunday night in your hometown. It should be

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Speaker 1: fun to watch. It'll be a great matchup. Good luck

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Speaker 1: to you. Thanks for joining the podcast.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Twin the Huddle podcast. And now

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Speaker 1: we are going to venture out into Houston and get

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Speaker 1: a close up look at the Houston Texans. I'm joined

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Speaker 1: by Drew Dowd. He does a great job. He's been

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Speaker 1: covering the Texans since two thousand and nine. Their TV host.

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Speaker 1: You can catch him on Texas dot com. He is

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Speaker 1: very well connected everything Houston. Drew, thanks for taking the time.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Thanks a lot. Tim, good to see again. Hope you're

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Speaker 6: doing great. And boy, you guys are coming to town

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Speaker 6: with a football team.

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Speaker 3: That's a's a joke.

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Speaker 1: We're coming to town with a football team. But you've

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Speaker 1: got a football team too, with obviously the additions that

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Speaker 1: you made last year with CJ. Shroud and Will Anderson

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Speaker 1: and and you know, making the playoffs. This is a fun,

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Speaker 1: fun matchup. It's two young teams, mostly young that that

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Speaker 1: are kind of up and coming in this league. But Drew,

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Speaker 1: let's start with the injuries because I think that's a

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Speaker 1: big storyline there in Houston heading into this one. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Nico Collins has been out for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: He's eligible to come back, what's the status of him?

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Speaker 1: And then the other big one is probably Will Anderson.

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Speaker 1: Will Anderson Junior dealing with that ankle injury misspractice Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: What what's that looking at looking like on the injury

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Speaker 1: front with Houston.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, the two big names you just brought up.

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Speaker 6: You've heard good things externally about Nico Collins, but you

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Speaker 6: always wonder, well, the guy didn't practice on Wednesday, so

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Speaker 6: what will it be. You think he's gonna be out

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Speaker 6: there Sunday, but you don't know, So you always hold

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Speaker 6: reserve and reserve judgment for that one and then Will Anderson.

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Speaker 6: We saw him get banged up with the ankle on

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Speaker 6: Thursday Night Football about a week ago, so we'll see

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Speaker 6: on those two. But we did see limited participation from

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Speaker 6: linebacker Aziz al Shire. He is a captain. He is

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Speaker 6: a real motor on this defense. It's a big, big returnee.

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Speaker 6: He had been out for a few weeks, so that's

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Speaker 6: a good thing that he's back. You also have Jimmy Ward.

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Speaker 6: He's a safety, he's a captain. He practiced as well

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Speaker 6: as a limited participant on Wednesday. He missed a lot

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Speaker 6: of time with a groin. So you get those two

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Speaker 6: back coming off of IR at least designated to return.

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Speaker 6: They sort of got their window activated. Was defensive end

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Speaker 6: Jerry Hughes. He's a complimentary piece. He can still give

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Speaker 6: you some juice here and there, and this pass rush

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Speaker 6: is gonna need it if Will Anderton is not able

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Speaker 6: to go. And then you got some more cornerback depth

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Speaker 6: with the guy you guys are familiar with in Jeff Okuda.

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Speaker 6: So there's been some good news, but you really want

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Speaker 6: the great news with those two names that you start with,

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Speaker 6: and we'll see on them, but yeah, don't don't cry

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Speaker 6: for the Texans because it's that time of year. As

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Speaker 6: you know, everybody's injured. You guys can talk Aden Hutchinson.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's everybody's going through it in their own

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Speaker 6: form or fashion.

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Speaker 3: So it's the league.

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Speaker 6: It's what you got to do, and nobody's gonna be

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Speaker 6: using injuries as an excuse for what happens.

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Speaker 1: You know, a lot of those names on the defensive

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Speaker 1: side of the ball, and credit to Demiko Ryans and

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Speaker 1: what the guys have done who've stepped into that role.

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Speaker 1: I mean the number two total defense are number three

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Speaker 1: against the past. They've really maintained through those injuries. And

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Speaker 1: and you know, obviously Lions fans know Danell Hunter, you

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Speaker 1: know very well from his time with Minnesota. He's been

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Speaker 1: a great addition to just what is it about that defense?

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Speaker 1: What is it? That is it? Demiko Ryan's scheme?

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Speaker 4: Is it just?

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Speaker 1: You know, why is that side of the football been

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Speaker 1: so consistently good? Really all year long.

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Speaker 3: Drew, They've been excellent up front. They really have. You

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Speaker 3: brought up to Neil Hunter.

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Speaker 6: He leaves the NFL and pressures he's getting to the

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Speaker 6: quarterback and his sack totals have gone up a little

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Speaker 6: bit over the last few weeks, but he's been everything

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Speaker 6: that the Texans have wanted and how they signed him

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Speaker 6: this year, You guys, they'll know all about him after

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Speaker 6: all those years in Minnesota and seeing him twice a season.

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Speaker 6: He's been excellent Will Anderson. I mean, he was the

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Speaker 6: defensive player of the month and then he gets injured.

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Speaker 6: You know the night that he gets named defensive player

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Speaker 6: of the month. But then on the interior names you

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Speaker 6: don't hear about as much. Tackles like Tim Settle. He's

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Speaker 6: been excellent since he came here, fully thought a Cossi,

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Speaker 6: he's been doing some nice things.

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Speaker 3: And then behind those two big guns.

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Speaker 6: At defensive end, he got a guy in Denico Autrey

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Speaker 6: who had eleven and a half sacks last year. He

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Speaker 6: missed the first six games of the season with a suspension,

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Speaker 6: came back, has settled in and then he has the

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Speaker 6: two sacks the other night. That's his third game back.

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Speaker 6: He's a very very important piece and you're so happy

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Speaker 6: to see him come back when you know there is

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Speaker 6: some uncertainty up front. And then I didn't even mention

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Speaker 6: Derek Barnette. The guy's a former first round pick. He's

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Speaker 6: been excellent with the Texans since they claimed him off

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Speaker 6: waivers late in the season from Philadelphia last year. So

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Speaker 6: they've been able to get out of the quarterback and

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Speaker 6: win those one on one matchups. They'll blitz of times, obviously,

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Speaker 6: but they're not relying solely on the blitz to cause

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Speaker 6: those pressures. So they've really been kind of the driving

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Speaker 6: engine of this defense, and especially so in home games

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Speaker 6: this year.

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Speaker 3: We can get into that a little bit later if

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Speaker 3: you want.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's gonna be such a huge matchup because

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Speaker 1: obviously Detroit comes to town with one of the best

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Speaker 1: offensive lines in football. Penney Suel Taylor Deck are really

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Speaker 1: too great bookend. Obviously, Frank Ragan is one of the

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Speaker 1: best centers in the league. So that should be a

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Speaker 1: terrific matchup from everything you've talked about with the depth

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Speaker 1: and talent that the Texans have up front. But over

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Speaker 1: on the other side of the football and you talk

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Speaker 1: about the offensive line with the Texans, you know, I

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Speaker 1: saw some of the you know, press conferences with Demiko

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Speaker 1: you know, early this season, and I think the first

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Speaker 1: three questions were about the offensive line, and obviously, with

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Speaker 1: the loss of the Jets last week eight sacks allowed,

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Speaker 1: eleven hits on CJ. Stroud, their second in the NFL

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Speaker 1: in sacks allowed with thirty one. What's just really been

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Speaker 1: the issue there, and is that the concern heading into

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Speaker 1: this week and really the last two months of the season,

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Speaker 1: is getting better play out of that offensive line.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you said it, and so has Demiko Ryan, So

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Speaker 6: is CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud.

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Speaker 6: So of all those guys on the line, the rest

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Speaker 6: of the offense, they've got to protect better. You know,

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Speaker 6: that's no secret. Nobody's speaking out of turn here. You

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Speaker 6: can't allow your quarterback, especially one like c J. Stroud

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Speaker 6: is still young, to get hit the way he's been hit.

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Speaker 6: So one of the guys who was playing left guard,

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Speaker 6: Kenyon Green, he started the season there. He's a former

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Speaker 6: first round pick. He's out for a while, maybe even

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Speaker 6: the season, we don't know, but he's not practiced. He

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Speaker 6: has the shoulder injury. He left the game. In his place,

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Speaker 6: we saw Kendrick Green, but also a guy who had

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Speaker 6: started to take some more reps there at the left

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Speaker 6: guard spot.

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Speaker 3: Atterson.

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Speaker 6: He was a rookie last year out of Notre Dame

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Speaker 6: and he started the first seven games at center in

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty three before he got injured and had to

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Speaker 6: hang it up for the rest of the season. But

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Speaker 6: he's he filled in pretty capably at left guard when

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Speaker 6: we saw him, and then he got concussed, so he's

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Speaker 6: coming back from concussion. But he was a full participant

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Speaker 6: on Wednesday. So whether it's him, whether it's Kendrick Green,

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Speaker 6: it's gonna be somebody different upfront. But it's got to change,

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Speaker 6: no matter whether it's just the left guard or the

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Speaker 6: rest of the whole unit, and not just the offensive line.

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Speaker 6: Everybody's got to be better because.

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Speaker 3: You can't sustain.

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Speaker 6: You can't just keep crossing your fingers and thinking something

602
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Speaker 6: the good is gonna happen when your quarterback is getting

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Speaker 6: battered like he's been.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Texans and playing at home. The Lions are

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Speaker 1: obviously excited to get back indoors after playing in the

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Speaker 1: rain and the cold and the wet in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: I see the picture behind you there of the guys

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Speaker 1: decked out in the red. It's gonna be a red out.

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Speaker 1: What's the atmosphere going to be like there? At the

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Speaker 1: NRG Stadium in Houston Sunday night for a NASH TV game.

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Speaker 6: They'll be amped up. It's gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 6: I know there will be a lot of Detroit Lion

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Speaker 6: fans there as well. They travel well, especially lately. But

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Speaker 6: they're gonna be pumped up. Like you mentioned, it's battle

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Speaker 6: Red Day or battle Red Night, and they'll have the

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Speaker 6: new helmets that's got the horns instead of the regular bullhead.

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Speaker 3: But they're gonna be pumped up.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this defense has been so much better at

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Speaker 6: home through the four games now, they haven't seen an

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Speaker 6: offense of the calibers of Detroit's. But if you look

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Speaker 6: at what they've done to opposing quarterbacks, they've held them

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Speaker 6: to about forty five percent completion rate. They're averaging about

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Speaker 6: three and a half sacks a game the Texans are

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Speaker 6: so they've done a really good job. And yes they

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Speaker 6: haven't played you know, the best of quarterbacks, but think

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Speaker 6: about who they have gone against. Trevor Lawrence was the

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Speaker 6: first overall pick. They had him completing less than fifty

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Speaker 6: the last time out. Anthony Richardson, they broke him. I

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Speaker 6: mean he tapped out. We saw the national news last week.

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Speaker 6: He got benched right after that, and he was having

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Speaker 6: a tough time. But you also went against Josh Allen,

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Speaker 6: the guy's a perennial MVP candidate, and you held him

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Speaker 6: to nine to thirty passing. So they've done good work

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Speaker 6: against quarterbacks. Now it's different. I'll give you all that.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's a good Lions defense coming to the offense,

636
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Speaker 6: coming to town and defense. But the Texans defense, I

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Speaker 6: think is going to be ready to rock and they'll

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Speaker 6: be up for the challenge.

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Speaker 3: And it's a mighty one for sure.

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Speaker 1: One or two guys, I know you've already mentioned a couple,

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Speaker 1: but maybe that that Lions fans aren't familiar with who

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Speaker 1: could really impact this game come Sunday night.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, keep your eyes on tight end Dalton Schultz. You

644
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Speaker 6: know he's kind of starting to heap back up. A

645
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Speaker 6: lot of the early targets this season went to Nico Collins, justifiably,

646
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Speaker 6: so he was leading the NFL in receiving yards. Stefan

647
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Speaker 6: Diggs was getting you know, implemented and integrated into the offense.

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Speaker 6: He's out for the rest of the season, so you

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Speaker 6: won't see him. So we've seen Dalton Schultz get his chances,

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Speaker 6: so he's he's a guy on offense. I'd keep your

651
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Speaker 6: eyes on. And I mentioned Autrey earlier in the watch

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Speaker 6: out for him. He can play, he's nasty, He's a

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Speaker 6: guy that general manager executive vice president Nick Cassio this

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Speaker 6: offseason during the season when he was coming back, he

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Speaker 6: labeled him a real pain in the ass, an ass kicker.

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Speaker 6: It's pretty strident words from Cassio and and Autrey he's

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Speaker 6: a good one.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see what he does.

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Speaker 1: You know, is this big too? Just because the losses

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Speaker 1: to Green Bay Minnesota obviously beat Chicago, but you don't

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Speaker 1: want to go one in three against the North obviously.

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Speaker 1: It's it's the division, you know, is key for any team.

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Speaker 1: And I know these are interconfidence so you know, interconference,

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Speaker 1: so's it's you know, it doesn't it's not huge in

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Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things. But is there anything to that,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, not wanting to lose, you know,

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Speaker 1: three times within one division.

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Speaker 3: There might be something to that.

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Speaker 6: I think on a grander scale, it's that awful taste

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Speaker 6: they've got in their mouth after last week on national TV,

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00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 6: looking so poorly and knowing that they're not that team.

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Speaker 6: You know, they're better than what they put out there

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Speaker 6: the other night. Now, they they gotta fix things and

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Speaker 6: they got to play better, and I think they think

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Speaker 6: they can. I know they think they can. So they

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Speaker 6: get a second chance. They get to do it on

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Speaker 6: Sunday Night football. And yeah, they want to beat a

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Speaker 6: good team. They just want to get back down the winning,

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Speaker 6: winning track. But I think, yeah, sure, they probably want

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Speaker 6: to do better against the AFC North than they have them.

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Speaker 3: It's a it's a.

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Speaker 6: Rough tumble division and uh man, that's some pretty serious stuff.

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Speaker 3: But they're six and three.

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Speaker 6: They want to get to seven and three and kind

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Speaker 6: of keep that stranglehold on their own division, the AFC South,

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Speaker 6: because you know, you saw the Colts and what they've

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Speaker 6: been doing, and a couple of weeks ago when the

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Speaker 6: Colts came to town that the Colts won that game.

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Speaker 6: Technically the Texans and Colts would have been tied atop

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Speaker 6: the AFC South. But that win and then everything we've

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Speaker 6: seen since, it's kept that little gap in between the two.

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Speaker 1: All right, final one here is is, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Texans stay at top the AFC North, they get to

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Speaker 1: seven and three, they really control their own destiny. And

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Speaker 1: by beating Detroit, if what happens, what's the biggest key

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Speaker 1: for Drew Doherty for the Texas to come away with

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Speaker 1: a win at home Sunday night in front of a

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Speaker 1: national audience.

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Speaker 6: Got to be able to run, and they have been

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Speaker 6: able to run with Joe Mixon. You got to keep

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Speaker 6: getting turnovers and takeaways and limittures. But you know, you're

702
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Speaker 6: tied for eighth in the NFL and turnover to Frenchell.

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Speaker 6: Lions are tied for first, so you got to be

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Speaker 6: better than them, and that's a tough task. But above

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Speaker 6: all else, you've been solid in the first half as far.

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Speaker 3: As scoring points.

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Speaker 6: You got to get way better after the intermission, because

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Speaker 6: aside from the win over New England a few months

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Speaker 6: or a few weeks back, the Texans have basically averaged

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Speaker 6: about six to seven points in the second half of

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Speaker 6: games this year.

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Speaker 3: You can't do that against a team like this.

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Speaker 6: You've got to score more and you got to limit them,

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Speaker 6: and you got to make things tough on.

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Speaker 1: Jared goff oh Drew, what a fun matchup. Who would

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Speaker 1: have thought at the beginning of the year, like Houston

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Speaker 1: and Detroit to first place teams, huge matchup, maybe two

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Speaker 1: teams that could meet in the Super Bowl in February.

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Speaker 1: There really are that good. It should be a fun

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Speaker 1: matchup strength on strength offense versus this tourn a big defense.

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Speaker 1: It'll be a fun matchup, a redout national TV. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to it. I'm sure you are too. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining me so much. I appreciate the time, and

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Speaker 1: I'll look look for you in the press box.

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Speaker 6: Make sure I say hello. Hen't wait, Tim, good to

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Speaker 6: see it. Travel safe and we'll see a Sunday night

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Speaker 6: Man