1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,319 Speaker 1: What's up is but angela, Ye, it's out Wealth Wednesday, 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: So of course Stacy tis Daily is. 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: Here with me. 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 3: Happy Wealth Wednesdays everybody. And we are so excited with 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 3: our guest, the one, the only, Rachel Rogers, who you know, 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 3: we've had her up here before. She's the founder of 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 3: Hello seven, which is an incredible empowerment platform for entrepreneurs. 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: Get into that seven figures baby okay exactly and then 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: nine thank you, And. 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: It's Small Business months, so we want to give a 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 3: special shout out and make sure that you all check 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 3: out Hello seven. 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: And but that's not what we're here to talk about today. 14 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: Rachel's thinking about y'all's kids now and she has an 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 3: incredible book that just came out called Future Millionaire, which 16 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: is targeted. 17 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: To gen z. 18 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 3: We are so excited to talk about this, especially as 19 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 3: a parent of a young is you know he's in 20 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: that's nineteen. 21 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, that's right, twenty five, yeah, thirteen to twenty 22 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 4: seven now yes, yeah, I'm gen Z. I kidding are? 23 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: I was like, I was like, this is for y'all 24 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: and you've helped so many entrepreneurs myself included. Your advice 25 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 3: is incredible. Why did you decide to focus on gen 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 3: Z this time? 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, gen Z is struggling right now if if 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 4: nobody has noticed, right young people right now is trying 29 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 4: to start their career with that housing situation, the cost 30 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 4: of student loans and having student loan debt and then inflation. 31 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 4: They don't have the buying power that their parents did. 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 4: Even if it seems like their wages are on par, 33 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 4: they're not because they're not able to buy what their 34 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 4: parents could buy, i e. They can't buy a home. 35 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 4: They can't even move out of their parents' houses, you know, 36 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 4: which means like you're never getting that guest room or 37 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 4: that podcast or that knitting room or what that gym 38 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 4: whatever you have planned when they when you when they 39 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 4: were gonna leave, but then they did it. So they 40 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 4: need a new plan. They need a new financial plan 41 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 4: that is something other than go to call to get 42 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 4: a job by a house, because that is no longer 43 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 4: accessible for so many people. 44 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: What is I mean? 45 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: It is such a different world for them, Yes, And 46 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: what are some tips you tell them one mentally to 47 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 3: not feel so overwhelmed and the mindset that they need 48 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: to be adapting to come into this world. Nothing's promised 49 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 3: everything's changing. Yes, we're having my time finding jobs as 50 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: too much information, some of it wrong, exactly wrong. 51 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 4: Yes, and like information overload for sure. I think the 52 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: key thing is Step one is what do you want? Right? So, 53 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 4: like take a step back and stop doing that. I 54 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 4: don't know how I'm gonna get it. We're not at 55 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 4: the how yet. Let's get to the what. What do 56 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 4: you actually want? What is your dream? What is your 57 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 4: million dollar dream? 58 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: Right? 59 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 4: Like, what is your vision for your life? Have one? 60 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: Right? 61 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: And and you know what I saw, I mean recently 62 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 4: that said the universe is not on a budget or like, 63 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 4: so dream big? Right? So like, what is that big 64 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 4: dream you have? I think we need to teach them 65 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 4: to have that big dream and then say, okay, now 66 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 4: what's the play Now, let's figure out our game plan 67 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 4: to slowly but surely get that. But I think they're 68 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 4: not even envisioning a life because they're just responding and 69 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 4: reacting to everything on social media and everything that's being 70 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 4: said about the economy or whatever, and they take themselves 71 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 4: out of the game before they're even in it. 72 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: So it's like researchers say about them that they resigned, 73 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 3: they don't have as much resilience because so much was 74 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: out of their control. The pandemic, yes, you know, the 75 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: job market, their student loan debt, the climate. They don't 76 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: feel empowered in any way, so they are very resigned 77 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: generation instead of tapping into their resilience. 78 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 4: Exactly, start that for them. Yeah, well, you're not going 79 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 4: to get what you want centering around like, no one 80 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 4: else is going to do it for you, including your parents. 81 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 4: So at some point you have to decide you want 82 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 4: something different and then have a willingness to put some 83 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: effort into make it happen. Does it have to be 84 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 4: like burning yourself out and working hundreds of hours and 85 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: all that. No, it doesn't have to be that. It 86 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 4: doesn't require that. I listen, I get my eight hours 87 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 4: of sleep every day, you know, the whole journey, right exactly. 88 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: But you do have to be willing to put in 89 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 4: some work and some elbow grease. And that's why I 90 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 4: think they have to tap into their dream because it's like, 91 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 4: what is that thing that's going to get you up 92 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 4: out of bed in the morning, that's going to get 93 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 4: you to go do that work? 94 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: You know, Rachel, as you're talking about this, I also 95 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: want people to tap into even what you did. You know, 96 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: you went to law school and you had a path 97 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: that you thought was charted out for you and even 98 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: opened up your own law firm and then ended up 99 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: pivoting yourself. And I just think that's important to this 100 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: story too, because even think about, like, you know, just 101 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: the resilience that you had, and also making a decision 102 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: about what you were passionate about and then actually doing it, 103 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: Because there's a big difference between feeling like you have 104 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: an idea or you're not happy in a situation that 105 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: you're in, or maybe you feel like you went to 106 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: school for something, and am I supposed to do this 107 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: thing that I went to school for and spent all 108 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: this money on, right, you know? When I graduate and 109 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: then you have to and then you end up doing 110 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,679 Speaker 1: something else that you're passionate about. But sometimes it's also 111 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: like taking those steps back to start all over again 112 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: to move forward. 113 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 4: Yes, And I think that comes from commit because you're right. 114 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: I graduated during the two thousand and eight recession, so 115 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 4: the jobs were scarce and the ones that were available 116 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 4: to me were whack, you know, and I was just like, 117 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: you know what, I worked too hard to take this 118 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 4: job that I don't want, So I'm going to create 119 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: my own job. And I went solo and started my 120 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 4: own practice and that set off my wealth journey becoming 121 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 4: an owner like that, But it was just like it 122 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 4: was just a what I'm not going to do is 123 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 4: sit here and be broke, Like what I'm not doing 124 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 4: is moving back in with my mother. So if that's 125 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 4: not an option, then I have to what am I 126 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 4: willing to do to make it happen? And that's what 127 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 4: I did. How did you. 128 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 5: Take that leap? 129 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: Though, because even mentally we talk about and especially I 130 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: think with this book, for people to understand what it 131 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: was that made young Rachel make that leap to believe 132 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: in herself to do something different. What was it in 133 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: you that click? Was it like something that kind of 134 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: kickstarted that for you? What was that that happened for you? 135 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 4: I think the alternative was unacceptable to me, and I 136 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 4: think that gen Z could use more of that, right, 137 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 4: Like the alternative of I'm gonna live with my parents forever, 138 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 4: I'm going to be broke for a long time, I'm 139 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 4: going to be aimless, right, Like, no, not an option, right, 140 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 4: There's a vision I have for my life and this 141 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 4: ain't it, So how am I going to get there? 142 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 4: And so getting creative with figuring out how I was 143 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 4: going to make it happen, and it was for me. 144 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 4: It was a book. I read a book. I read 145 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 4: The four hour work Week because that's what was hot 146 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 4: back then, and that was about entrepreneurship. And I'm like, okay, 147 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 4: this is a path that I could try, right, let 148 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 4: me see what I could do. And then in terms 149 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 4: of funding it, I downgraded my lifestyle. So I gave 150 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 4: up my car lease, I gave it back to the dealer. 151 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 4: I had a house at the time, and I rented 152 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 4: it out and moved into a basement apartment. You know 153 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 4: that was super cheap rent. I sold all my stuff 154 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: and I downgraded my life a lot so that I 155 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 4: could live off a very little. 156 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 5: And it steps back whereas that you take to me. 157 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 4: Exactly right, And so that's what I was willing to 158 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 4: do to just then I could focus on this business 159 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 4: idea and work on making it happen. And within a 160 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 4: year I had replaced my income and then within two 161 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 4: years I was making three hundred thousand dollars a year 162 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 4: and then it only. 163 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 5: Up from there and the pandemic. You actually also really tapped. 164 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 4: In, Yes, the pandemic, we got to eight figures and 165 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 4: that's how we became an ey. 166 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: Wow. 167 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: So Rachel, now looking at Rachel who got out of college, 168 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: what would you say to that? Rachel, The most important 169 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: thing you're going to do. 170 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 4: Is trust yourself, trust your ideas, trust your creativity, trust 171 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 4: your own talent and ability. You know, because I think 172 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 4: young people don't realize that you are born with natural talent. 173 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 4: You are born with skills that you know, what comes 174 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: easy to you comes hard to other people. And learning that, 175 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 4: Like I always say, you are your first asset if 176 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 4: you have nothing else. I had no network, I had 177 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 4: no business, I had no money, but I did have 178 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 4: me right, And so become a student of yourself, like 179 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 4: take personality assessments, Really understand who you are, how you 180 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: like to work, what you know. Think about what did 181 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: people come to you for even when you were a kid, 182 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: What were you drawn to as a kid, What were 183 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 4: you naturally good at as a kid, and how can 184 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 4: you tap into that as a possible side hustle to 185 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 4: generate some money for that. 186 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: That's so funny because they used to call me the 187 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: news growing up because I always knew what was happening, like. 188 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 5: Yeahbody before it hit you know what I mean. 189 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: It's not like we have blogs back then, but I 190 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: was always the one that knew, like you heard this 191 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: session says it was in the paper today because yeah yeah, 192 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: And they'd be like Dan had an Angela know that 193 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: before everybody did. Because I always paid attention. Yeah, it 194 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: used to always come to me about things. They'd be like, here, 195 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: come to news. 196 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 5: Yeah I love that. 197 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: At me, yes, exactly, journalistic. 198 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 4: On my report card as a kid, it was always 199 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 4: Rachel's an excellent student, but she talks too much. But 200 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 4: now I get paid to talk, you know, So like 201 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 4: those that's exactly what I'm talking about. Those things are 202 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: the things that are the best pathway for you to 203 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 4: get wealth. Is like connecting to what you're naturally good at. 204 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: Because what you're already great at, if you double down 205 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 4: on that, you have the ability to be world class 206 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 4: at it, right, and that's where when you become one 207 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 4: of one. That's where so much wealth opportunity is. So 208 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 4: you know, sometimes people are like, I want to get 209 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 4: good at this, and it's like if that's not your 210 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 4: if you're naturally not good at that, don't try, because 211 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 4: you're gonna be mediocre at best with a lot of effort, 212 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 4: versus where it just feels easy to show. 213 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:19,599 Speaker 5: Up, coning in on the natural abilities that you already have. 214 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: I think of all the things I've tried and everything 215 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: I'm glad that I did. But my mother and my 216 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 3: teachers used to always say to me, you don't have 217 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: d NA, you have w h y journalists. I'm like, oh, 218 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 3: I is a journalist before I even knew I was 219 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 3: a journalist. Yes, sure, yes, exactly what you're doing without 220 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 3: realizing it. 221 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 4: Yes. So when people are like, what's the hottest business 222 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 4: that I should start, I'm like, the one that's hot 223 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 4: for you? What do you get excited about? What's going 224 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 4: to get you out of bed in the morning? Cause, like, 225 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 4: you know, I coach people. I'm on the planes and 226 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 4: I'm coaching people. I'm on the train and I'm coaching 227 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 4: you know, Like it's like I naturally do it, you know. 228 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 4: I'm like, tell me your problem so I can fix 229 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 4: it for you, you know, and help you fix it. And 230 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 4: so it's like those things that you would do for free, 231 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 4: when you can get paid to do that, you're just 232 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 4: going to become better and better and better at it. 233 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: You know, Rachel, I also feel like a lot of 234 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: people because we have, like you said at earlier, access 235 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: to information overload and access to people's lives and social media, 236 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: and a lot of times comparisons like this person's here, 237 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: why am I only here? One thing that I hear 238 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: people can constantly try to put you down for is 239 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: if you have a job or a career instead of 240 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: being an entrepreneur, yes, yeah, and so so silly and 241 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: agreed and so fresh out of college as people are 242 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: trying to figure out or fresh out of high school 243 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: whatever it is that you're doing, when it's time to 244 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: get out in the world, and if your alternative is 245 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: living at your parents' house and you don't want to 246 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: do that, and it's time to get your first job, 247 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: right what advice would you give to people who are 248 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: in that position right now where it can be really 249 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: daunting to go on all these job interviews not get 250 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: what you want, and sometimes it just makes you feel 251 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: defeated to the point where you're like, I don't need 252 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: and want to try this anymore. I'm gonna just start 253 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: a business and being an entrepreneur because everyone's saying entrepreneurship, entrepreneurship, be. 254 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 5: Your own boss. 255 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 256 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 4: Well, the bottom line is, if you have no money 257 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 4: and you're trying to build wealth, is gonna be daunting regardless. 258 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 4: So get comfortable with daunting, you know, get comfortable with discomfort, 259 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 4: make peace with rejection. This is all part of the 260 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 4: journey to success. And if you want to avoid that, 261 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 4: then you're gonna stay in your mom's basement indefinitely, you know. 262 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 5: If she has a basement. Exactly, you lucky if you'll 263 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 5: be on the couch. 264 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 4: You're right on the couch, exactly how long you want 265 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 4: to be there. But the approach, I think people need 266 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 4: to recognize one that looking for a job is a 267 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 4: full time job, you know, So like the I'm just 268 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 4: gonna send resumes, No, you got to send the cover letter. 269 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 4: You have to be thoughtful and intentional and like make 270 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 4: your list of one hundred different places that you're gonna 271 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 4: apply and then intentionally show up every day and just 272 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: do as many as you can per day. Like that's 273 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 4: literally what it looks like. I think people think I'm 274 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 4: just shoot off a couple of resumes. No, girl that 275 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 4: ain't handle, So they're not teaching them and they don't. 276 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: They're not developmentally there. I mean, I have my son, 277 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 4: I have a nine ten year old. They're just not. 278 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: And he's great, but I. 279 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: Wanted to visit him recently at college and I was 280 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 3: talking to some of the students up there and all 281 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 3: of them were like, gosh, none of us are getting 282 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 3: internships this summer. And they meant it and they were present, 283 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: and they're like, we filled out our resumes, we sent 284 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: them early, and. 285 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 4: No one called. 286 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: No, you know, no one called. 287 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 3: So I was talking to one of them and I 288 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 3: was like, well, when did you find out you weren't 289 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 3: getting in? How did you find out you weren't getting 290 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 3: an internship? And she's like, I had to call the 291 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: company and I just called them a couple of weeks ago. 292 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 3: I applied for this back in December, and I'm like, 293 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: don't you guys have career counseling and stuff And. 294 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: She's like yes. 295 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, so they're just telling you submit a resume 296 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: in December and just wait. 297 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, there's that, ain't it. I'm like, that's not 298 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: how it happens at all. 299 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, when I was applying for jobs, I applied like 300 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 4: at a hundred at a time. Literally, yeah, and I 301 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 4: was looking for a clerkship. I applied to one hundred judges. 302 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: And I think they did that, but it was just 303 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: their expect I know what it's like. I've been a 304 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 3: corporate in corporate for twenty years and I've been an entrepreneur. 305 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 3: I know what it's like to work with big corporations. Yeah, 306 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 3: they're not going to know. They're not even go that's 307 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: just not. 308 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 4: They're getting like tens of thousands of apps and all 309 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 4: these kids are like, oh, I want to do an 310 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 4: internship at you know, movie studio X or this, and 311 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 4: they're not hearing it. Yes, okay. So that's part two 312 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 4: of my advice, which is recognizing that eighty percent of 313 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 4: the job market is never advertised. So your network is essential. 314 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: And that's one of the benefits of going to college. 315 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 4: You know, when people say like, oh, college is not necessary, 316 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't think it should be compulsory. You 317 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 4: should have a plan, like if you're going to spend 318 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 4: the money, be intentional about what you're going to get 319 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 4: out of it. But getting a professional network out of 320 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 4: college is key. So like your professors, tap them, your 321 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 4: you know, your favorite teachers, some of your classmates, the 322 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 4: people who come in and do talks at. 323 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: College umni network. 324 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, Like you got to tap in and ask 325 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 4: how I got out. 326 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 5: That's how I got. 327 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: One of my first internships was through the alumni network 328 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: because a lot of the alumni will hire interns that 329 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: went to the same college as them. Yes, And I 330 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: actually somebody who I went to school with told me 331 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: that he got funding for his business by code calling 332 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: people from his alumni network at his college. And because 333 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: you have access to people, and usually people will be 334 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more gracious when they're like, oh, we 335 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: went to the same school, we had this, Yeah, we 336 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: graduated from the same place, and he actually got funding 337 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: for his business just by making these code calls to people. 338 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. So the point is, like, there's some legwork that 339 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 4: has to be done, or my friend calls it footwork, right, 340 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 4: you gotta be willing to do the footwork, right. So, 341 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 4: like some of that is reaching out, showing up every day, 342 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 4: being the squeaky wheel, right, not being forgotten. How can 343 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 4: you be memorable? But those like booking those informational interviews, 344 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 4: making sure people know who you are, making sure people 345 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 4: know what you're looking for, what you've gone to school 346 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 4: for so that when something comes up. Even now in 347 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 4: my company, we're small business and we keep hiring, like 348 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 4: all of the latest roles have been filled with somebody 349 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 4: who knows somebody right right before we even get to 350 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 4: advertise it, Like we put the job descripture together, before 351 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 4: it even up on the website, somebody's like, oh I 352 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 4: know someone, or I went to college with someone or whatever. 353 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 4: We interview them and they wind up getting the job. 354 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 4: So you got to use your network and tap into 355 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: that ray. 356 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: So how do you feel about people using like chat 357 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: GBT when they're sending cover letters? 358 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 5: Can you tell? 359 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 4: And you know, I'm fine with using tools, but recognized 360 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 4: like the tool is it's an assistant. It's not the writer, right, 361 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 4: So like you're the writer and it's a writer's assistant, right. 362 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 4: That's how to think about it. And you need to 363 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 4: be the ultimate editor. So if you, like, I think 364 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 4: chat GBT is great to get your like crappy first 365 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 4: draft done right, get that dumb fast, yes exactly, and 366 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 4: then you edit it because you can add personal story, 367 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 4: you can add some emotion more connection to it that 368 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 4: you're not going to get out of chat GBT. So 369 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 4: like that's how to do it. Get the first draft 370 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 4: done quick and then finesse it, you know, and also 371 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 4: with AI the it's all about asking the right questions. Yes, 372 00:15:58,680 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 4: the prompts. 373 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, the p that you're telling it like like co 374 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 3: writing or something with it even telling it. But I 375 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: don't you know, I'm not comfortable saying this because it 376 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: doesn't sound like me because of this reason. And it's 377 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: all about the prompts. That's a whole other conversation, right, 378 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 3: But we let some college students know that you were 379 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: going to be here today and we have some questions. 380 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 4: I love it. 381 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 5: Let's me good questions, questions you want me to start? 382 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: Yep? 383 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 5: Okay, all right. 384 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: So Ethan's question, what's the formula for a great interview? 385 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: How do you stand out against other candidates? 386 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 4: Yes? So number one, make sure that you're prepared, so 387 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 4: know what the company is, know what their goals are 388 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 4: as much as you can, like deep dive into as 389 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 4: much research research as you can on the internet to 390 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 4: understand this company and like what is it, what is 391 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 4: it trying to accomplish, what is its goal? And then 392 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 4: if you can drill down to like if it's a 393 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 4: large company, maybe figure out the department that you're going 394 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 4: to be interviewing at. What is the goal of that department? 395 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 4: Who are the players in that department? Do your LinkedIn 396 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 4: research so that you know who they are? That way, 397 00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 4: if you're interviewing, because I used to go on into 398 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 4: is where you start with one person, then you start 399 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 4: meeting other people. So it's like as much as if 400 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 4: you have a little background on everybody, right, you understand 401 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 4: because that's what I look for in an interview. I'm like, 402 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 4: does this person care to know I have a podcast, 403 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 4: I have books, I have all kinds of stuff. If 404 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 4: you didn't put no effort into figuring out what Hello 405 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 4: s Oven does, I'm not interested, you know. So you 406 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 4: got to show that you actually want this job, that 407 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 4: you care, that you want to understand what they're doing, 408 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 4: and you're thinking about how you're going to add value 409 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 4: to this company, right, like, how are you going to 410 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 4: make all these people who work here? How are you 411 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 4: gonna make their lives easier? Because that's what's going to 412 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 4: make them want to hire you. 413 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 5: Do you throw out a number? 414 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: If they're like, so, what are your salary expectations? 415 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 4: I think you can throw out a number, Yes, and 416 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 4: if they don't meet it, that's fine. But understand that 417 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 4: eighty seven percent of young professionals when they are negotiating 418 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 4: for their start salary, when they ask for more money, 419 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 4: eighty seven percent of them get it. Sixty percent of 420 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 4: them never ask, right, So if you make the ask, 421 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 4: your chances of getting it are extremely high. So you 422 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 4: just just ask no matter what, They're not going to 423 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 4: take the job away because you ask for more money 424 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 4: unless you ask for something ridiculous, you know, like be like, 425 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 4: be reasonable. You can easily do Department of Labor research 426 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 4: on like what market rate is absolutely you know in 427 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 4: the ORMs exactly, So like do your research. I'm like, 428 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 4: y'all know how to go on TikTok and deep dive 429 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 4: on a story right, like that you're interested in, So 430 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 4: do the same thing, deep dive on these companies and 431 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 4: figure out like what they're interested in, why they're hiring you, right, 432 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 4: and how you can sort of present yourself as the 433 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 4: solution to their problem. 434 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 3: You got that, Ethan, Okay, now we have eleanor a 435 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: lovely young woman. What are the most common mistakes gen 436 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,239 Speaker 3: z is making in their job search and how can 437 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 3: they avoid them? 438 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 4: I think honestly being lazy. Hmm, it's really like it's 439 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 4: partly not doing that research. The expectations, just expecting like 440 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 4: I deserve a job, you know what I mean? And 441 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 4: like no, just expect to like expect that you baby, 442 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 4: you don't, you know what I mean? And you have 443 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 4: to show that you do. Right, So make your case. 444 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 4: Be willing to make an argument. Right, So imagine you're 445 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 4: in a court of law making an argument as to 446 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 4: why the judge needs to make a decision in your favor. Right, 447 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 4: Like that's how you want to position yourself and come 448 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 4: with the evidence. What you got, Where projects have you done? 449 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 4: Come prepared to talk about your college career, volunteer work 450 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 4: you've done, past jobs, internships, how you've added value, how 451 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 4: you helped with particular campaigns. Like be ready and also 452 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 4: be ready to talk, like answer the questions of like 453 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 4: what's your weakness or what's the time where you had 454 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 4: a challenging time. 455 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 5: Definitely going to ask you what they're going. 456 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 4: To ask you, So be prepared with that and give 457 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: them real answers. 458 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, say, don't say my weakness is I just work 459 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 5: too hard? 460 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 461 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't want to hear that. 462 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: Oh I know we heard some nevermind, Yeah. 463 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 4: It's like it's like not knowing. They want to see 464 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 4: that you are self aware, right, So show that you're 465 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 4: self aware. And also I encourage people to like actually 466 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 4: be yourself, bring your full personality to it, because I 467 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 4: think people want to see like do I actually like 468 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 4: this person? Do I want to work with this person? 469 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 4: And you're also testing it because you might be like, 470 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 4: you know what, I want this job, but I don't 471 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 4: like none of y'all and I don't want to. So 472 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 4: you interviewed them as well. You asked some questions as well, 473 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 4: and come prepared with questions about the kind of workplace 474 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 4: that it is and how you know, you could ask 475 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 4: them what would what are you most looking for in 476 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 4: a candidate? Like what would make your life the most easy? 477 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 4: These are questions nobody asks, and they want to be 478 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 4: asked because they will. They're trying to make their life easy. 479 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 4: That's why they spending the money to hire. 480 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: A good question when they say you have any questions 481 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: for us, Yeah, it's like what would make your life easier? 482 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 4: How could I show up and do this job in 483 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 4: a way that would be a game changer for you? 484 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 5: How do you recover. 485 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: Let's just say you went to an interview and you 486 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: feel like, ooh, I didn't put my best foot forward. 487 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: I messed up on an answer. Somebody I know recently 488 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: went on a job interview and had a bad case 489 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: at Vertigo and it was yeah, something like. 490 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: That, I know. 491 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 5: And then you feel like, well, that's it lust that. 492 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 4: No, don't don't take it as that. So what I 493 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 4: would do, especially something like that, like I've actually shown 494 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 4: up to an interview not dressed the way I want 495 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 4: to be dressed because my luggage got lost, you know 496 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And so the story tell the story, right, 497 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 4: Like tell the story anyway, and show how you're taking 498 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 4: this challenging moment and showing your resilience and your willingness 499 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 4: to show up no matter what regardless, right, Like that's 500 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 4: part of you. Pivot it. And then for someone who, 501 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 4: like with the case of Vertigo, I tend to follow 502 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 4: up email and say here's what happened. I'm, you know, 503 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 4: so grateful for the opportunity. I would love the opportunity 504 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 4: even for a fifteen minute zoom conversation and just like 505 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 4: show them, like tell them the truth and see if 506 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 4: they want to give you another opportunity. Like, you're dealing 507 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 4: with humans, right, so be human and expect them to 508 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 4: be human in response, and if they're not, maybe you 509 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 4: don't want that job anyway. 510 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: Right, you can say something like, well, I know I 511 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: stood out and you remember me? 512 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? Literally that. 513 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: Yes, Now, this is so helpful because they are a 514 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 3: tricky generation and a lot of them don't know what 515 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 3: proactive looks like. 516 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're always called gen Z and even millennials. Oh, 517 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: they're so lazy. 518 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: They're this, they're that, And I'm like, think about what 519 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 3: they grew up in. They didn't see they didn't have 520 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 3: those models over proactive looks. Like all they had to 521 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: do was accept a lot of stuff that was thrown 522 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 3: at them. Yeah, so this is super helpful. 523 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, And also like what areas are they proactive in? Right? Like, 524 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 4: like you know using social media? Great? How can you 525 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 4: use social media to help you get a job? Make 526 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 4: some connections there? 527 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 3: Right? 528 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 4: Ask for informational interviews so you can like just be 529 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 4: in people's psyche when they see job opportunities and can 530 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 4: point you in the direction. So, like, what do you 531 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 4: have that you are enjoying that you are actively a 532 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 4: part of and how can you tap into that to 533 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 4: help you get the job. 534 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: You know, since you brought up social media, let's just 535 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: say when you were younger, you were in social media 536 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: and you did some things that's googleable. 537 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,479 Speaker 2: Because that is so real when we were in college. 538 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: The employees are looking at that. Now when they're hiring, 539 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: they do look at your social media. Should you bring 540 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: it up or should you just not bring it up 541 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: and hope they didn't see it? Because sometimes that's also 542 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: hard to navigate because there could be things maybe you 543 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: were young and a little wild, or you did some 544 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: crazy thing, said something, and now if someone does it 545 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: search it shows up. 546 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 5: How does somebody handle that? 547 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 4: Well, that could be a story that you use when 548 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 4: they say, like, what's the time that you made a 549 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 4: mistake and how did you recover? Use that as an 550 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 4: opportunity to say, well, here's a mistake that I made 551 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 4: and if you searched, you know, I don't know if 552 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 4: you did or not, but if you search it, you'd 553 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 4: find it. And you know, it's unfortunate that that's the case. 554 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 4: But here's what I'm doing differently now, and I use 555 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 4: this as an opportunity to teach other people, right, like 556 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 4: or whatever, but like find a way to use that 557 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 4: as a story. That's an answer to one of their questions, right, 558 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 4: because what people are looking for when they are hiring 559 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 4: is like somebody who's going to show up, be reliable 560 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 4: and do the job right. And so like, how can 561 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 4: you use everything, even a setback, to show I'm reliable 562 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 4: and I'm willing to push through and show up regardless. 563 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: You know, that's what people want. So you just got 564 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 4: to be useful. If you are useful, you will always 565 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 4: have a job. Okay, Like if you are when when 566 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 4: it's time for layoffs, the most useful person is the 567 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 4: last person you looking to let go. Okay, Like you're like, 568 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 4: how can we keep her at all costs because you 569 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 4: can't afford to lose her because she's that helpful, you know. 570 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 4: So that's what you're looking to be, is like, how 571 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 4: can I show up and just be as helpful as possible, 572 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 4: as supportive of as possible, and learn as much as possible. 573 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 4: That's the other thing. In the process of being helpful 574 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 4: and showing up and being reliable, you learn more. And 575 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 4: the more you learn, the more you have skills that 576 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 4: you can then parlay into whatever your next thing. Is 577 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 4: this is going to be so helpful. This is the 578 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 4: stuff they're not learning in school. And something else that 579 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 4: Rachel has that y'all will love is she has so 580 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 4: much information on side hustles. Yes, listen, cause here's why. 581 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 4: And that's the other thing I was going to say, 582 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 4: is your job, Like we need to stop thinking of 583 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 4: the job as like, Okay, I got the job, check done, 584 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 4: money handled, No wrong, That's why you still broke, That's 585 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 4: why you still live with your parents even when you 586 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 4: do have a job. Right. So, No, the job is 587 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 4: just the starting point. The job is the seed money 588 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 4: for whatever else is coming next, you know. So use 589 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 4: the job as a way to cover your expenses and 590 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 4: have a little extra capital and start a side hustle 591 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 4: and have a n their revenue stream and make it 592 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 4: something fun that you enjoy. Make it something again aligned 593 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 4: with your personality and skill set, something that's not another 594 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 4: forty hour week job. Like don't open another a retail 595 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 4: store that requires you to be there all night, right 596 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 4: for example, like no, look for something that is a 597 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 4: couple of hours a month that can generate some extra cash, 598 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 4: and that extra cash is what you use, some of 599 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 4: it for joy and having fun and vacations or whatever. 600 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 4: And then the other half of it use to invest 601 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 4: because the ultimate goal with wealth is to separate your 602 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 4: labor from your earnings. When you've done that, now you're 603 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 4: on the road to building wealth. And so like we 604 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 4: need all of those steps. You get the job because 605 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 4: you just need the initial capital. Then you start the 606 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 4: side hustle. Now you own something, You've got this extra 607 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 4: money coming in that doesn't is not necessarily paying you 608 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 4: for hours, right, and then that money because fifty percent 609 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 4: of America does not invest. And the reason why is 610 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 4: because they say they can't afford it. That's why you 611 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 4: need the side hustle so that you can afford to invest, 612 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 4: because you can't afford not to write if you want 613 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: to and not like I'm not talking about four to 614 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 4: one case acts out to for one K. And then 615 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 4: you need a brokerage account on top of that where 616 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 4: you're also investing on top. 617 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 5: Of that because you start the better that the earlier 618 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 5: conversation for. 619 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, examples of some side hustles. There's a whole 620 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 3: part in this book talking about that. What are some 621 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 3: top three that come to mind? 622 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, So, speaking of social media, you could easily go 623 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 4: into local businesses and say, hey, are you looking for 624 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 4: a social media manager? I can handle your social media 625 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 4: for you and get more foot traffic coming your way. 626 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 5: Everyone's looking for that. 627 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 4: Listen. All of my clients like cafes, bakeries, retail stores, 628 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 4: they all it's like all reels. The more reels they post, 629 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 4: and so now it's all about training their team to 630 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 4: post reels constantly, right, and that's what's getting the more. 631 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: That's a great idea for a summer job. These kids 632 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 3: are having a hard time finding that. Just walk and 633 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 3: walk around your neighborhood. Yeah, if that's something you're good at. 634 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 4: If you're not good at it, obviously don't sell it 635 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 4: because you're not going to be good at it and 636 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 4: they're not going to be satisfied. Another thing you could 637 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 4: do is like live events, right, Like could you do 638 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 4: event planning for different companies or different people like throw 639 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 4: parts parties or baby showers or that kind of thing. 640 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 4: That's another thing that you know, people are always looking 641 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 4: for someone to help them with the event planning kind 642 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,959 Speaker 4: of stuff, So that's another option. Another option is like 643 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 4: it's something with computers, like if you're really good, like 644 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,479 Speaker 4: this is how my son's brain work. He can fix anything. 645 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 4: So it could be like digital cleanup. Right, we all 646 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 4: have like files that are a hot mess express and 647 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 4: someone comes over and gets it all organized for us, 648 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 4: you know, over a period of time. That could be 649 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 4: another thing that you could do from home. You can 650 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,239 Speaker 4: build websites other stuff like that. But like, really I 651 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 4: have one hundred different options in the back of the 652 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 4: book just to like get people's wheels turning with like 653 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 4: all different all over the place, using all different types 654 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 4: of talents and skills. Because really the key is it 655 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 4: needs to be something that easy for you, something you're 656 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 4: naturally good at, right, something that's fun for you, so 657 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 4: that it feels like a hobby where you get paid 658 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 4: rather than feeling like a second job where it's exhausting 659 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 4: to you. 660 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 3: So is that the answer to Legare's question for you was, 661 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 3: how can gen z find financial independences to with an 662 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 3: entry level salary in this economy? 663 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't, you don't. But what you do though, 664 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 4: is that, Okay, the entry level salary is like, that's 665 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 4: that that's my baseline that makes store, like the basic 666 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 4: bills get paid. And then you take a little bit 667 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 4: of that money and you use it to start a 668 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 4: side hustle, you know, and it really you don't need 669 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 4: a lot of seed capital to start a service business. 670 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 4: You just need yourself and your willingness to show up 671 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 4: and do it. But if you you know, if you 672 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 4: want to get business cards, if you want to get 673 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 4: a simple website done, or if you want to do 674 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 4: a little bit of advertising like on so run some 675 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 4: ads on social right like those, that's what you might 676 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 4: use a little I my seed money was three hundred dollars. 677 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 4: Okay period that this eight figure business came from. Okay, 678 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 4: so you don't have you don't need a lot of cash, Okay, 679 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 4: you when you started, I emailed one hundred people that 680 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 4: I knew, and I said, will you hire me? Or 681 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 4: will you send me someone who could use my services? 682 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 4: I said, here's my business that I'm starting, Here's what 683 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 4: I do and who I do it for. Can you 684 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 4: a hire me if you need my services or be 685 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 4: send someone my way? And from that got my first 686 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 4: three clients. And then from the first three clients, more 687 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 4: clients came, and more referrals came. And also too, a 688 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 4: lot of encouragement, a lot of support, a lot of 689 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 4: that helps spread the world, like that also helps, Like 690 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 4: let's not underestimate the power of having some community support 691 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 4: like that. 692 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 5: Helps and do a great job. 693 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: That's really also the foundation of it because where it 694 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: can spread fast when you're great, but it can also 695 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: spread fast when you're not. Yes, So just remember that 696 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: is you have reputation on the line. So when you 697 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: get those three clients, yes, that's what's going to bring 698 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: more clients, or it can also ruin your business if 699 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: you're not communicating, if you're not delivering what you're supposed 700 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: to deliver. And I also think what's really important is 701 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: being able to grow in your field too, So you 702 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: always have to this definitely like the school of YouTube, 703 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of things you can learn how 704 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: to do better, more efficiently, and also to evolve with 705 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: the times. Yes, just by going online, you don't even 706 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: have to always spend money, yes anymore. 707 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 4: And that's why I we're again I'm going to drill 708 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 4: this home, like when you choose something that feels aligned 709 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 4: for you, you're more likely to do a better job. 710 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 4: When it is like I would rather do anything but 711 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 4: deliver for this client on this Like you're in a 712 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 4: bad way because you're going to procrastinate. Listen, I'm the 713 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 4: Queen of procrastinators, right. So it's like, if I'm doing 714 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 4: something that I really don't want to be doing, it 715 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 4: is like so hard to get myself to do it. 716 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 4: But if I'm doing something I love and it's fun, 717 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 4: I'm there all day. Let's go what's next? Right, then 718 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 4: you're hungry and your hype about it versus drained energetically 719 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 4: by it. So choosing something that feels good for you, 720 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 4: that feels like yes, I could do that, that feels 721 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 4: like yes I can deliver on that. That's what you want, 722 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 4: so that you don't you know, over promise and then 723 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 4: under deliver. This is the opposite of what you want 724 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 4: to do. 725 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: So it's great salary advice. 726 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 3: So listen La Garett, Ethan and eleanor you know what 727 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 3: to do, Yes, and. 728 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 2: You're going to get your job. You're going to get 729 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 2: your side hustle. Balance. 730 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: Talk to these kids about how do you find balance 731 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 3: when you have a job and a side hustle, especially 732 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 3: at their age. 733 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 4: So balance looks like it's not about the eighteen step 734 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 4: skincare routines that you see on social media. It's not 735 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 4: about spa days and all this other nonsense. It's about sleep, Okay, 736 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 4: go to bed and get your eight hours. 737 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 5: You've got righting about that since before we start, and 738 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 5: that's why. 739 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: That's one of her secrets to success. She gets her 740 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: eight outs. 741 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, the entire time I've been building this business, 742 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 4: it is a rare occasion for me to not get 743 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 4: my eight hours. 744 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 5: That's amazing. 745 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 4: You know. I am committed to my sleep because you 746 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 4: know why you show up and you're just ready to go, 747 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 4: versus like if you're out drinking and then you're supposed 748 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 4: to show up for a client the next day, you're 749 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 4: not gonna be your best self, right, So you've got 750 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 4: to be responsible with your time and your energy and 751 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 4: manage that. You know, yes, have fun, but have fun 752 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 4: on the day like when you don't have work the 753 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 4: next day, you know. So sleep is key. One movement, 754 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 4: like get up and go for walks, Like you could 755 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 4: do a whole fitness routine if you want, but literally, 756 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 4: if you just walk twenty minutes every day, you're gonna 757 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 4: get good ideas. While you walk, You're gonna be able 758 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 4: to self regulate your emotions, like all of that rejection 759 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 4: you're managing you regulate it more when you are walking 760 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 4: and exercising. So let me tell you what old people 761 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 4: have it, right, Okay. They go to they get their sleep, 762 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 4: they go there for their walks every day, they eat 763 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 4: dinner at five thirty, like they know what they're doing. 764 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 4: And we actually need. 765 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: To follow that grandfather. 766 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 4: Listen then, and that needs to be like listen during 767 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 4: the work week, this is how we get to. On 768 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 4: the weekends, we go to have a good time, stay out, laid, 769 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 4: drink whatever you want to do. But during the work week, 770 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 4: like do it like your grandfather. 771 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: Okay, And they did say that millennials are drinking a 772 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: lot less. 773 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, different and focused. 774 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 3: We want them to go find you right now. So 775 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 3: where can they find your book and where can people 776 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: reach out to you? 777 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 4: Yes, so you can find me at Rape Rogers DSQ 778 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 4: on social media. Hello seven dot co is the website 779 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 4: for my company. And if you go to Future Millionaire 780 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 4: Book dot com and you can get a free class 781 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 4: that I'm teaching. So you get two copies of the 782 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 4: book and with that you get a free class called 783 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 4: money Camp. I'm teaching at May twelfth to the sixteenth 784 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 4: every night, so I'll be teaching lessons from the book 785 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 4: and doing Q and A just like this with the audience. 786 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 4: So buy two copies, come get this free class and 787 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 4: get some more get your questions answered. And also to 788 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 4: just getting in community like that is just gonna you 789 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,479 Speaker 4: meet other people and you see how possible it is. 790 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad you ended that with community because 791 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: i know that's one of the things you stress so 792 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: much as being one of the keys to being successful 793 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: and happy. 794 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,719 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, being around people who are also ambitious, who 795 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 4: are also on the same path, and you see them winning, 796 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 4: and that encourages you to go, oh, let me go, 797 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 4: Oh they made how much? Okay, let me get over 798 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 4: here and do this because clearly it works motivation and 799 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 4: then also they'll hire you. You hire each other. You 800 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 4: create this like microeconomy, supporting everybody and speaking your name 801 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 4: and Roomsfolo. Opportunity that happens in community. So get yourself 802 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 4: into a community. And this is a free one. 803 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 3: Well, y'all go to Amazon right now order Future Millionaire. 804 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 3: Rachel's books are so effective and you feel like you 805 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 3: really have a companion. So we thank you. Thank you 806 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 3: for what you've done for a generation. Z for what 807 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 3: you're going to do and promise you'll come back. 808 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely. And also it's fun too. There's some hilarious stories. 809 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 4: My first side hustle was illegal, so they can read 810 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 4: that story and laugh. 811 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: And for our next show, how did your side hustle 812 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: from Jail? 813 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 3: I guess who our guest will be. We love her, 814 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 3: We love you. Happy Wealth Wednesdays everybody. 815 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 5: Thank you Rachel 816 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 4: Well