WEBVTT - Jaleel White Meets World 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:20.320 We spent quite a bit of time together recently and 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:23.799 with our well, Susan was not with us, so I 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.280 was gonna say with our significant others, but Susan was missing. 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:30.360 But we learned something about Writer's wife, Alex that came 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:34.960 up in conversation, and then the same thing was reiterated 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:39.680 the next day also by Writer and Will and I 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:41.040 then talked about it on the way. 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:45.280 Home, like, wow, what is it Alex? 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:49.240 Alex said when we so, Alex is a great cook 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.320 and she loves food, which and it's one of the 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:56.040 many things I love about Alex because I also love food. 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:58.200 I don't love to cook as much, but I love food, 0:00:58.240 --> 0:00:59.720 So I can talk about food with Alex for a 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.560 long time time. And then Alex was talking about how 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:07.520 she doesn't like a casual, on the go dinner, like 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:09.800 if she has to have a casual kind of on 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:12.319 the go dinner that doesn't involve a whole setup and 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:15.160 a sit down, she feels like it ruins her day, 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.080 like that's a bad day if she doesn't have a 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:17.639 good dinner. 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.520 And then she mentioned she. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:23.759 Was talking about she was gonna send me some recipe ideas, 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:25.959 and I said, oh, you don't do a taco Tuesday, and. 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:31.400 She goes, I hate tacos, and I was like, what's 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:33.280 huh hate tacos? 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:34.080 Like, what. 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:37.319 About tacos? Exactly? 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:40.600 It's kind of a bunch of really good stuff in 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:41.880 a really good thing. 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.240 Yeah, yeah, Like what's really do not like about it? 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:47.119 And I thought huh. 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:48.840 And then we talked about what it is and she 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.520 was like, I just feel like tacos are not a 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:53.160 sit down worthy meal. 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:54.600 And I was like, okay. 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:56.920 I started I was asking her about home state tacos. Yeah, 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:00.240 She's like, I like him for breakfast, that's fine. And 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:05.240 then the next day writer said, I hate tacos. 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.040 Tacos really the biggest problem with this is that we 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:14.600 live in like Taco Central. We live in East La Highland, 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:20.080 the greatest, the greatest tacos, the straightest street tacos ever. 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.400 We have a friend for his fiftieth. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:26.200 We went on a taco crawl with a professional taco guy, 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:28.600 taking us to all the different street tacos. We had 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:33.520 cheek tongue like all these amazing guacamullys or different salt 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:37.399 it was, and I could not care less. We were 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:39.400 just like, okay, we'll go along. 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:40.720 Yeah, I just don't. 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:42.519 I'm just tacos. 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:43.600 This is not you know. 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.400 I think maybe it's it's an embarrassment of riches. I 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:51.920 don't know, like everywhere I wear the Taco shirt. 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.800 Okay, you wear the Taco shirts, wear shirt the product. 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:59.160 I mean, it was so funny because we're like we're 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.079 sitting in the airport yesterday. It's just like, why do 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.280 they tell you that he hated tacos. 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.639 It's it's such a big thing for so many of 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.160 our friends because like that's what we do, especially with kids. 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.200 You go to tacos, you make tacos, and you go 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:16.120 get tacos down the street, and like everybody in La 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:17.079 like they. 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:19.680 Have the best tacos. Uh, And we're always like no, 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:20.960 can we can we do something? 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.360 Is it just tacos? Do you like Mexican food? 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:24.840 I don't really like Mexican food, though. 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:32.040 I liked California Northern California Mexican burritos and if anybody 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:33.679 knows like the Mission District burritos. 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:35.760 I'm blanking on some of the names, but like San 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:38.440 Francisco style britos, which you can't find in La. 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.760 Explain San Francisco. 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:45.800 It's a gigantic it's it's basically there's nothing. I don't 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:49.080 know exactly what's super special about it, except that it's 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.920 just the flavor profile, like whatever they do in San 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.800 Francisco and farther north, like what I grew up with 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.040 the places of assholes called Viva Mexico that I grew 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.640 up going to. They're just they're just giant burritos with 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.520 you know, normal like I usually do vegetarian. But then 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.320 there's also you know this carnitas and chicken, but tons 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.320 of guacamole, sour cream, cheese. 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:08.280 But there's something. 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:11.240 I think it's the rice and beans, this particular flavoring 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:12.840 of the rice and beans that you just don't find 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:13.320 in La. 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:15.840 Oh and I still haven't found it in La. 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:18.160 If anybody's listening, please tell me where I can get 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.320 a San Francisco style burrito in LA. I will, Oh 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.240 my god, I'm so But other than that, like you know, 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.960 the La, there's two models of La Mexican restaurants. There's 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.640 like really traditional Mexican restaurants where they're like those dark 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:33.360 caves that you go into, you know, like style, right, 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:35.320 And usually I enjoy the. 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:38.039 Food, but I just like my stomach just can't handle it. 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:39.800 I have such a black boys stomach. I'm such a 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:44.440 I don't like spicy things. And then, yeah, tacos, you know, 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.479 street tacos. It's like I'd rather go sit down somewhere 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:47.960 and haven't meal. 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:49.280 That's right, you were gonna be the first one to 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.560 tap when we go on hot ones. Finally, Oh my god, 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:52.680 I can't know. 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.280 I can't do anything spicy because even if I enjoy 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.359 it while I'm eating it, my stomach will be in 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:58.760 so much pain for days. 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:00.840 Yeah, it's not worth it. 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:01.760 What else do you hate? 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:01.960 Writer? 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:03.440 Let's get a few more things out of the way. 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:04.000 What else? 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:06.000 We know a few things will hate. We've already done that. 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:07.680 You guys heard me go on about art, so I 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:08.679 don't have to share anymore. 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:09.279 What else do you hate? 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:09.479 Writer? 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.320 I just feel like I've said I hate a lot. Yeah, jazz? 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.320 So then wait, I'm sorry, because Daniel and I on 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.480 Wednesday are going to Taco Jazz Night? Are you not 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:19.479 going to be where? 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.240 You're not coming Taco jazz night? 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.880 I'll be at this sushi poetry reading a. 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.599 More or less honestly, will and I will go to 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.760 that Insteady, that sounds good too, I. 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.160 Won't listen to the poetry, but I'll be all day long. Yeah, 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.040 I don't care. Yeah what rhymes with with Sabbi my friend? 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:36.000 That's all I gotta know. 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.520 Welcome to Pond meets World. I'm Danielle Offishal, I'm right 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:44.040 or Strong, and I'm Wilfordell. 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:49.159 If nineties tgif Programming was a baseball team, Boy Meets 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:52.039 World would have hit in the eight spot. Sure we'll 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:55.880 get run opportunities and some highlight worthy sacrifice buns, but. 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.440 None of this makes any sense to me, no idea. 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:00.400 I'm with you, I'm with you. 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:04.080 Just go to sleepwriter, But the truth is, don't look 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:07.000 for any electric power and four hundred and fifty foot 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.160 home runs from us. We were the last position player 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.800 before the terribly hitting pitcher, so we knew our role 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.520 and were thankful to be in the majors. But this 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:21.280 week's guest he was the clean up hitter, the franchise player, 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:25.640 the young man behind the world renowned Family Matters character 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:29.039 Steve Erkele, a role that was originally cast to be 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.279 a one and done appearance and then turned into a 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:37.120 cultural phenomenon. Over nine seasons, he was the face. 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:38.960 Of Erkele Dolls and Erkle Oh's. 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.360 But most importantly, he was the face of a successful 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:46.560 and rare black family sitcom on Network TV. In addition 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.640 to the iconic and lovable Nerd, he'd voice Sonic the 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.680 Hedgehog and the early animated renditions of the character, and 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:56.640 appear on shows like Bones, Castle, and Psych, eventually also 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.640 appearing on Dancing with the Stars and next up for this. 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:01.200 Busy man, the soon to. 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:05.360 Be released Star Wars Skeleton Crew on Disney Plus. He 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:09.400 also just released a memoir, Growing Up Arkle, finally telling 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:13.120 his story and detailing the peaks, valleys, and plateaus of 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:14.240 fame and fortune. 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.200 So this week on Pod Meets. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:19.119 World, we are thrilled to welcome a Hall of Fame 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.720 nineties kid actor and a well adjusted grown up in 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.560 twenty twenty four, It's jilliel White. 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.000 Yeah hear me? 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.480 Yeah? Do you hear us? 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:33.200 I can hear you? 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:33.840 Just fine? 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.280 Okay, good welcome. 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:39.760 We are so excited to have you here with us. 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:44.880 Even though Boy Meets World aired after you, I still 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.960 feel like you are just are very very strong lead. 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:55.640 In and you are now you still are. Did you 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:57.480 even know Boy Meets World existed? 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:00.800 Oh? Very much. So you can really you guys, and 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.840 you ever brought into replaces, you guys right in replaces 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.640 now that I understand it the way I understand it now, yeah, 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:10.120 I get it, but I would. 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.800 Love to hear that. Please explain that to us. 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:13.280 No. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:18.600 So, so, all the shows on TGIF were originally all 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:21.440 the shows on TGIF were originally owned by one of brothers. 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.280 And this is the part of the business, guys, that 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.320 you know, we were never privy to as young performance. 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:34.600 And when it became legal for Disney to begin making 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.719 their own content for their own network, that was illegal 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:42.040 before nineteen ninety six, you could not do that network 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:47.679 add to order their their properties from other studios. 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.199 That that's what creates a fair market in capital. 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.680 So once they were allowed, the big crunch happened, and 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:58.160 then Universal merged with NBC, and Disney bought up ABC 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.520 and they all start the all started hustling to own 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:03.160 their for verticality. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:04.960 They wanted to get rid of us. 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.680 So the first show that they did that was in 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:14.960 house cooked was was was Bringing a Teenage Witch And 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.880 Melissa is a genius. Her mom is a gangster. Yes, 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:23.800 her mom is a complete gangster. And uh, they got 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:29.200 the rights to uh Sabrina and they did a movie 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:29.959 of the week. 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:31.920 For proof of for proof of. 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:34.000 Concept, Yeah, yep. 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:36.120 For Paula bought it for a dollar. She walked in 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.360 and she bought it for a dollar for. 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.560 Proof of concept, and then she marched herself in there 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:47.239 and she sold that concept to to ABC Disney Touchstone 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.760 at the time, and they're like, great, you're you're going 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:55.280 to replace Family Matters and step by step because we 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:56.040 own you guys. 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:56.960 So that's so. 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.600 I think a lot of times sometimes people don't understand 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.880 the business something and how that affected us. So if 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:06.800 I had been owned by let's say, Disney, then I 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:08.520 probably would have ended up working with you guys or 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.600 doing co promotion. If I had gotten off of Warner 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.320 Brothers books and said, hey, I've had a big little 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.160 tantrum holdout or something and said I'm not working anymore 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:22.960 unless my contract is with Disney for future future endeavors. 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:23.760 But you know, I. 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:27.839 Didn't have none of us people kids, none of us 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:32.040 had representation that would ever stick their neck out. 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.199 For a kid and to piss off business affairs. No 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:37.080 kidding Me's not happened. 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:39.920 Yes, I mean that is leading into my My next 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:44.360 question was, I would love to imagine between Will's genius 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:47.760 brain and your genius brain. Could we imagine an Eric 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:49.600 and Erkle crossover moment? 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:54.360 Please? What would that crossover have been. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:55.920 If? 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:59.199 I'll tell you if, if, if somehow my contract had 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:05.880 changed immediately after after Disney brought ABC and I became 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:11.880 more of a Disney employee, Yeah, I promise you that 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:12.560 would have happened. 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:14.280 Yea, yeah, yeah, I think it would have too. 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:19.840 Immediately. Yeah, And we never did a crossover with you. 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:21.920 We didn't do a crossover because you were owned by 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:22.960 two different studios. 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:24.120 Wow, shees. 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:26.760 Meanwhile, I did a crossover with everybody. 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:28.400 They put me on step by step, they put me 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.520 on full, they put because those are all Wanner Brothers shows. 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:33.760 So that's why it's like sometimes it's tough and you 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:35.319 just gotta got to take it on the chin with 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.920 fans and people, well why didn't you and why didn't you? 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.800 Like guys, it was all different back then. It was 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.680 about ownership. It was about you know, companies growing and 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:45.880 gaining control and. 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:46.800 All this other stuff. 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:48.120 And it's like, you know, at the end of the day, 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:49.920 we were kids having fun exactly. 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:50.640 I wouldn't have. 0:11:50.760 --> 0:12:03.760 I wouldn't have known the first thing about that me neither. No, 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.240 you and I both have something other than just being 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.360 on a T G I F show in common. Both 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:16.800 Urkle and Topanga were originally intended to be one time 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:18.000 guest stars on. 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:18.680 The case. 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:26.160 That we also found that out. Recently we had Danica 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.760 McKellar on and she playing Winnie Cooper. It was the 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:30.800 same thing for her. She was also supposed to be 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:32.280 a one off episode. 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:36.760 Yeah, do you imagine that show without Winnie exactly? 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:37.720 So? 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:42.480 Do you remember your audition for Steve Rkle. 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:46.199 I remember it very very well, I really do. Nobody 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:46.840 wanted the job. 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:48.920 Everybody wanted the job of the Q kid that was 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.920 supposed to, you know, the good looking kid, and Laura 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:55.240 had the big crush on because they thought that would 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:58.920 be a recurring like it's some type of boyfriend care right, and. 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:00.920 You know that. 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.840 It just it just went the way it went. It was. 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.600 I remember the first time I went, nobody dressed up 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:08.199 as a nerd. 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:08.800 I did. 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:15.080 I talked about that in my book, and nobody dressed up. 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.640 And then in the second audition, all of a sudden, 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:20.320 I had two or three guys dressed up as me. 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:22.520 I'm like, oh man, it's messed up. 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:27.360 I dressed up last time for the first one, and 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:30.360 and and now I got copycats. So what I did 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.360 to try to give myself steal a leg up was 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.480 I walked into the room and I introduced myself to 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.000 the producers aste vertical in character. 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.640 I never I never let them meet delete break it. 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:44.720 Yeah, so great. 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:46.880 I just walked right in and just and just start 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:47.680 playing a character. 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:49.360 And how old were you at this point? 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:50.240 I was twelve? 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:54.160 Wow? What year was this? What year did step did? 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:54.800 Did family? 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:56.319 Where you were? 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:01.559 Some of you were not even born, you were your 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:05.640 fathers some of you No, it was eighty nine. 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:09.200 I remember this because you'll never I'm sure never remember 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:10.920 this because it was just a day in your life, 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.319 but it was an hour of your life. But to me, 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.280 it was magical. So I was on a Nickelodeon show 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.960 at the time in New York, and once a year 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:22.440 they would fly us out to interview the big stars 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.200 of the television shows that we all grew up watching. 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:29.160 And I went to the set of Family Matters. Oh, 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:32.160 and I interviewed you and a number of the other 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:33.840 actors and It was the first time I was ever 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.080 on a sitcom set, and it was sitting watching one 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:39.960 of your run throughs that made made me go, this 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.120 is what I need. I have to do this, I 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:42.840 have to be here. 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.120 I don't know why, but I do slightly remember that. 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:49.960 Yeah, you, but we would have people sometimes. 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:53.760 As a guest watch out run through. Obviously that ever happened. 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:55.720 We were just as excited to perform for you as 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:57.720 you may have been to watch us. So I'm sure 0:14:57.720 --> 0:14:59.400 I greeted you and was like, so so I did. 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:01.640 Oh no, you were very you were very all. Everybody 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.640 was very very sweet. We interviewed you, Reginald vel Johnson, 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:06.720 we've introyed some of your cast members, and it was 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:09.120 just a magical day in my life and career. You 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.520 were very, very nice to me, but it was what 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:13.360 I was. 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:17.400 One of the biggest compliments I got was just recently. 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.520 Actually, I ran into Ashton and Mela at a at 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:24.600 the opening of Into Its Dome here in La and 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.680 Mila was like, I have to pay you a big compliment, 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.600 and I'm like, oh, Mila, Kuna said a big compliment. 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:30.040 Information. 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:35.520 I met you at the l Capitan Theater and I 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:40.320 just recognized you and I said hi. And I had 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:43.320 not even done like one major job yet, I was 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.800 still trying to break into the business. And you just 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:50.200 said the most encouraging things to me. When my agent, 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:52.040 I guess her agent was with her at this at 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:55.680 this screening, and you just talked to me like I 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:57.040 was already in the business. 0:15:58.200 --> 0:15:59.760 I just I thought that was It was such a 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:00.840 huge compliment to. 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:04.000 Me because to a certain degree, I know I'm a performer, 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.760 but I kind of feel just like destined to be 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:11.520 in this business. My parents never tried to put me 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:13.560 in this business for any other reason. They're making money 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:17.120 to go to college. We had no like sneaky ulterior 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:20.000 motives about anything. So I've always been able to just 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:24.680 see other talent, no matter where they were in their growth, 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.000 you know, Like you know, there's so many people I 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:31.840 became friends with before they even blew up. Lamar and Morris, 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.480 who just won an Emmy. I met that dude at 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.400 a friends giving. I just thought he was the funniest 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.520 guy at the friends giving before he'd ever done a 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.600 single commercial, And before I know what, I look up 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.040 in two years and he's got ten national commercials on 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.840 the air and he's going on a new girl. So 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.040 I really take pride in having met people who have 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.200 gone on to become something in this business because it 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:57.200 reminds me it's still a spiritual journey, this thing of 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:58.760 being able to communicate with people. 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:00.680 Well, you met me, so. 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:08.359 You mentioned that, just kind of intuition almost, of knowing 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:11.600 to walk into the room and to address to introduce 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:13.399 yourself as Steve Rkle. 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:14.920 Where do you think that came from. 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.600 By the time Family Matters came around and you were twelve, 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:20.400 you had already had quite a bit of experience right 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:21.480 in the in the industry. 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:22.120 Yeah. 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:26.080 I auditioned plenty. I'd done about fifty national commercials. Wow, 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.920 I had full of television guest spots. Shows you guys 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:33.479 that wanted to remember the Jeffersons, Mister Belvidere or stuff. Yes, 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.840 and but really, honestly, I was just a kid that 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:39.639 was desperate to get a freaking Saga Genesis, and I 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:41.320 was really pissed off those guys dress like me. 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:45.679 It wasn't deep. I'm a competitive dude, you know. I 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:47.520 got to grab some more rebounds to win the game. 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:51.360 That's just who I am as a person, and you. 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.120 Know, people were just like, that's such genius method acting whatever. 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.439 It was like, Nah, these guys copy my steeves. So 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:57.960 I just I had to do something. 0:17:57.840 --> 0:17:58.960 At the next level. 0:17:59.320 --> 0:17:59.520 Yeah. 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:01.800 I mean what you didn't know at the time is 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:04.280 that you probably already had the part. Just knowing that 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:07.320 they have actually informed those other guys to dress like 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.480 you means that you had already defined the character. 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:11.600 You know, like you had that part the second you 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:12.159 want to. 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:14.680 By the way, I tell her, never do that again. 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:18.440 She's just literally probably the most delicious plate of food while. 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:23.399 You're podcasting the middle of a podcasts, go ahead. 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:23.959 Eat your waffle. 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:26.440 No one will mind to say, I'm advocating now for 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.639 we all get waffles podcast new thing. 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:31.200 Everyone loves to hear people too. 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:37.359 That an apple slice? 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:40.960 Did she peel the apple for you? Is that is? 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:42.320 Oh my god? 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:43.520 Nice? 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:44.920 Nice? 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:49.080 Or do you you. 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:51.359 Know? 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:54.320 But we did well? 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:02.760 Is amazing? This is phenomenal. 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:09.639 O my god, apples, peeled apples and waffles every morning. 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:11.840 Listen, you are living the life. 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:15.600 So we have talked a lot on this podcast about 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:19.720 never really feeling like our jobs were very safe as 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:22.840 child actors for at least the first couple of years 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:27.400 of the show, we were always thinking, yeah. 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.959 We're lucky to be here. They oh my gosh, this 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:31.000