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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: Sexton Show kicks off right now. We are here in

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Speaker 2: our nation's capital, probably the best it's been in a

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Speaker 2: long time.

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Speaker 1: It is pretty spectacular. It's very beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Unlike during the inauguration, it is absolutely perfect weather here.

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Speaker 2: So I am not clearing the icicles from my nose

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Speaker 2: and my eyes this time. But we have a lot

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Speaker 2: to talk to you about, and we'll dive into some

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Speaker 2: of it. We're all so excited to be setting up

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Speaker 2: some pretty important interviews and sit downs and chats with

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Speaker 2: the people who make this town run and this White House,

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Speaker 2: which is doing a phenomenal job. Clay, You're going to

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Speaker 2: have to make sure that I don't go over too

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Speaker 2: much of the territory when I was on a flight

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Speaker 2: yesterday that you cover with these LA riots. Here's what

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Speaker 2: I've got for the latest marines, seven hundred marines order

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Speaker 2: to assist in lost Los Angeles. They are expected to arrive, well,

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Speaker 2: they have been arriving. We've got Mayor Adams of New

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Speaker 2: York City saying that there are anti ice riots in

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Speaker 2: LA that would be totally unacceptable in New York. So

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Speaker 2: they're drawing a pretty hard line on that when you've

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Speaker 2: seen some other places Austin, Tampa where there are reports

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Speaker 2: of some gatherings beginning. We're very clear on this. I

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Speaker 2: think everyone's very clear on this. The right to protests

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Speaker 2: obviously protected under the First Amendment. The right to loot

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Speaker 2: a foot locker or a CVS or whatever is not

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Speaker 2: in fact covered under the First Amendment. And this whole

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Speaker 2: fight over illegal immigration enforcement is absolutely critical for the

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Speaker 2: administration and Clay I'm happy to see so far they

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Speaker 2: are taking the law and order perspective and not backing

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Speaker 2: down one inch, because this is setting a tone for

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Speaker 2: the rest.

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Speaker 1: Of the four years as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what I was talking about yesterday is I do

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Speaker 3: think this is a really concrete difference between Trump one

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Speaker 3: point zero and Trump two point zero. And you remember

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Speaker 3: very well everyone out there does. In the summer of

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty, the entire nation came unglued, and I think

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Speaker 3: a big part of that was Tim Walls, governor of Minnesota,

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Speaker 3: refusing to call out the National Guard in time to

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Speaker 3: bring peace to Minneapolis. And then what happened in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 3: Skyrocket had spiraled everywhere, and for many people it was

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Speaker 3: the end of the COVID restrictions, as you well remember,

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Speaker 3: because doctor Anthony Fauci suddenly came out after telling people

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Speaker 3: that they couldn't be in any groups at all, and said, well,

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Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of people can actually come out in

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Speaker 3: the streets in March. And many people said, wait a minute,

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Speaker 3: you were telling us that we couldn't go to the kids,

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Speaker 3: couldn't go to school, we couldn't have non essential remember

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Speaker 3: that phrase non essential business is open. And suddenly you

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Speaker 3: March in the summer of twenty twenty. And I think

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Speaker 3: in retrospect, Trump wishes that he had called out the

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Speaker 3: point zero saying we're not going to allow these protests

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Speaker 3: to flourish and take root like we did in twenty twenty. Also,

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Speaker 3: that whatever the impact is of the Trump response is

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Speaker 3: I think they were apprehensive and I think quite frankly

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Speaker 3: So this is Trump saying I learned from the first term,

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Speaker 2: That was one of the biggest mistakes I would argue

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Speaker 2: Fauci looked very hard in that moment to understand all

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Speaker 2: the implications of the CDC and allowing them to set

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Speaker 2: these policies. And I mean, I remember I spoke to

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Speaker 2: to leave this to the states.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot that was.

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Speaker 2: Unknown then looting and rioting. We knew that was bad,

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Speaker 2: lawfully and protests, that's great, that's America. The moment you

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Speaker 2: and the law still apply to you, no matter how

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Speaker 2: upset you are on this issue of a legal immigration.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, Clay, I've seen a shift in the conversation

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Speaker 2: either enforced sovereignty and begin to deport some of the

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Speaker 2: ten million that Biden brought in, or nothing else matters.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: I think if we don't establish secure borders and interior enforcement,

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Speaker 2: we just have a de facto open border. And all

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Speaker 2: the implications of this. I mean what you're seeing in

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Speaker 2: version of Medicare medical Medicare medicaid rather medical. And the

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Speaker 2: apportionment issue with members of Congress. You have far more

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Speaker 2: a couple of dozen nationwide.

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Speaker 1: Seemed to twenty at least. And this is important. I think.

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Speaker 3: I don't think a lot of audience even understands this

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Speaker 3: because I didn't know it. Illegal immigrants get counted for

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Speaker 3: million illegals, that is helping Democrats because they're overwhelmingly clustered

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Speaker 3: in sanctuary cities and otherwise there would be less Democrat representatives.

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Speaker 3: Enormously important, and it also is a reminder to everybody.

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Speaker 3: As we'll talk, we'll go deep into the law and

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Speaker 3: order aspects of all this and why it's so important

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Speaker 3: that Trump is following through. The administration has to see

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Speaker 3: this through. This is just the beginning of it too.

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Speaker 3: But Clay, this is something what happens in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: I think there had been an idea that a lot

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Speaker 3: I live in Nebraska. That's not really my problem. I

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Speaker 3: to have two or three million illegals in it, that's

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Speaker 3: their problem. No, it's actually your problem in South Carolina too.

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Speaker 3: It's a problem for the whole country. It's a problem

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Speaker 3: point here that the Democrats are pursuing is to make

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Speaker 3: voting for all the illegals who have come here, which

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Speaker 2: The days where we would tell ourselves, oh, it's just

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Speaker 2: I think everyone understands. Biden let in ten million plus

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Speaker 2: No one knows. No one knows. I mean, the administration

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Speaker 2: doesn't know this. One doesn't know what the full number

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Speaker 2: out of control that it's impossible to tabulate. We just

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Speaker 2: know that it's officially at least ten million. That's a

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Speaker 3: Totally I mean, it's more than the people who live

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Speaker 2: And also keep in mind there's now some focus on

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Speaker 2: the Reagan Amnesty, which I've talked about here in the show.

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Speaker 2: Back in nineteen eighty six, what happens probably the worst

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Speaker 2: defeated communism, defeated the Soviet Union, but that was bad,

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Speaker 4: Than it was supposed to be.

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Speaker 2: We're signing this law, right, this is back in nineteen

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Speaker 2: We're signing this and we're going to get border security.

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Speaker 2: And what you got was an amnesty several times larger,

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Speaker 2: everyone was trying to be covered under that amnesty. They

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Speaker 2: So think about that in nineteen eighty six Ambassy. There

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Speaker 2: I'm covered under that too, And then it was a

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Speaker 2: years to come. Can you think about it this time? Right?

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Speaker 2: If we just said, you know what, we'll take the

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Speaker 3: Well that's why whatever Trump does, they have set in

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Speaker 3: Let me also mention this too, as the La riot

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Speaker 3: Steve Hilton, who's running for governor. He was out on

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Speaker 3: coming out, I saw another Democrat congresswoman say, well, this

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Speaker 3: But when you've got cops with cars burning and you've

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Speaker 3: it's hard to argue it's a mostly peaceful protest. I

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Speaker 2: Apparently, also the videos and the photos which I was

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Speaker 2: for today's show, Clay the notion that you would, as

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Speaker 2: We got Steve Hilton with us. You all know him

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Speaker 5: and disturbingly, it was also the police chief and the DA,

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Speaker 5: every single person in authority in California putting out pandering

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Speaker 5: statements instead of saying very clearly, if you break the law,

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Speaker 5: you will be prosecuted and we will hold you accountable,

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Speaker 5: and we will not tolerate lawlessness and disorder. None that

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Speaker 5: nobody said anything like that. It was all to the left.

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Speaker 5: And that tells you the rot that's gone on for

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Speaker 5: so long in California. And that's what we need to change.

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Speaker 5: And the majority of people understand now what's really going

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Speaker 5: on here that we have people who are, as I say,

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Speaker 5: not really in charge, with the people at the top,

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Speaker 5: who have no interest in protecting the interests of the

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Speaker 5: majority of regular working people who are just being let

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Speaker 5: down all the time by this far left ideology.

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Speaker 3: Steve, this is not standing alone either. January thirty first,

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Speaker 3: I think it took several weeks you'll know better than me,

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Speaker 3: to put out the fires that were burning all over

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles. I'm not an expert in arson, but thankfully

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Speaker 3: lighting things on fire intentionally in Los Angeles seems like

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Speaker 3: a bad idea given the history that we just went

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Speaker 3: through But also to me, there's a connecting thread here,

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Speaker 3: and it is of Mayor Karen Bass and also Governor

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Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom being unable to make rational, reasonable decisions for

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Speaker 3: the people of Los Angeles and the people of California.

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Speaker 3: Buck and I have talked about this a lot. Buck

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Speaker 3: lived through it. In New York City, things got so

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Speaker 3: bad that people finally said, we need law and order,

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Speaker 3: we need Rudy Giuliani, mayor Bloomberg. They fixed New York

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Speaker 3: City in many ways, and they had to do it

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Speaker 3: from an outsider perspective. Do you think that's what you

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Speaker 3: could bring in our Californians? Are things getting bad enough?

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Speaker 3: Or Californians say we can't keep doing the same one

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Speaker 3: party decision making.

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Speaker 5: Yes, that is one hundred percent the central argument. We

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Speaker 5: can't that I make it. We cannot go on like this,

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Speaker 5: And you can look at it's all of the peace

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Speaker 5: the fires of course that were and there's a similar

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Speaker 5: pattern here, right, which is that the extremist policies caused

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Speaker 5: the problem. So with the fires, it was the environmental

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Speaker 5: extremism that meant that you have this tinderbox situation. They

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Speaker 5: didn't clear the brush, they didn't do anything. You co

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Speaker 5: residents were fined for protecting their own property by clearing

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Speaker 5: the brush. So they have the extremist policies that caused

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Speaker 5: the problem, and then their response to the problem is

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Speaker 5: totally incompetent, and then they just lash around blaming someone else.

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Speaker 5: Similar pattern here. It was their extremest policies that caused

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Speaker 5: this problem, the sanct you remember, it's the sanctuary state

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Speaker 5: policies that caused this whole situation because there's no cooperation

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Speaker 5: with federal immigration enforcement and law enforcement, which means that

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Speaker 5: these kinds of enforcement actions are necessary. You don't see

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Speaker 5: this in other states where you've got cooperation between the

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Speaker 5: FEDS and state and local authorities. So they caused the

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Speaker 5: problem in the first place, their response is completely incompetent

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Speaker 5: and inadequate, and then they blame someone else, in this

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Speaker 5: case obviously Trump. But there's another point I want to make,

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Speaker 5: which is about the pattern. Just a couple of weekends

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Speaker 5: what we've just witnessed this week. Last past few days,

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Speaker 5: on a smaller scale, you had an illegal party, the

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Speaker 5: roof party that got out of control, the warehouse building

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Speaker 5: hundreds of people spilling out into the local community, boarding around,

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Speaker 5: smashing up businesses, vandalism everywhere, literally setting cars on fire.

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Speaker 5: They commandeered a police car, jumping all over it, derafiting

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Speaker 5: the police car. What did the LAPD do? Nothing? Literally nothing,

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Speaker 5: They stood back and just watched while all this happened.

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Speaker 5: There was not a single arrest. That's what's the problem here.

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Speaker 5: You have people who will not enforce the law and

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Speaker 5: uphold standards of civilized behavior, which is the first responsibility

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Speaker 5: of people in government. And that message I'm drumming home

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Speaker 5: loud and clear, and I think there really will be

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Speaker 5: changed in California in twenty twenty six because we cannot go.

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Speaker 1: On like this.

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Speaker 2: Steve, real quick before we go. Is it dying down

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Speaker 2: or is there a concern here that this could continue

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Speaker 2: or maybe even worsen.

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Speaker 5: I think it is, and I think the president is

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Speaker 5: dying down and that's good to see. And I think

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Speaker 5: it's the direct result of the President's tough response, because

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Speaker 5: I mean, everywhere you go is the National Guard holding

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Speaker 5: the line. And so I think that that has clearly

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Speaker 5: made a difference. And last night was better than the weekend.

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Speaker 5: And you know, let's hope tonight is better. It's early

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Speaker 5: morning here still, so there's not nothing going on particularly,

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Speaker 5: but I think that it looks like things are getting

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Speaker 5: more under control, and of course that's something we welcome,

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Speaker 5: but it's it's exactly I think, thanks to the tough

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Speaker 5: federal response, which of course all the politicians here that's there.

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Speaker 5: I mean, for goodness sake, the governor of California spending

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Speaker 5: his most of his time yesterday, you know, posting on

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Speaker 5: x you know, anti Trump, trolling things and filing lawsuits.

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Speaker 1: It's protect madness madness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he apparently he has neither read nor understood the Constitution, Steve,

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Speaker 2: but that's that's not news.

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Speaker 1: We're aware of that one.

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Speaker 2: Steve Hilton, what is your site for the governor's race?

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Speaker 5: Steve Hilton for Governor dot com fo R Steve Hilton

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Speaker 5: Next Governor dot com.

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Speaker 3: Well, we encourage everybody in California who wants things to

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Speaker 3: change to go to Steve Hilton for California dot com.

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Speaker 3: Keep up the good work and sorry yeah for governor,

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Speaker 3: and stay safe out there.

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Speaker 5: Fantastic great to read you guys. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: That's Steve Hilton.

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Speaker 3: He's hopefully going to be the next governor of California,

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Speaker 3: We're up here in Washington, d C. Visiting with many

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Speaker 3: of our friends in Congress as the big beautiful bill

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Speaker 3: way through the halls of Congress. It's in the Senate

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Speaker 3: right now and senter Ron Johnson of Wisconsin is with

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Speaker 3: us and we are going to do a deep dive

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Speaker 3: on spending the bill, what should happen from his perspective,

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Speaker 3: gritty about the economic policies in place, we wanted to

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Speaker 3: bring you in because I would say you and ran

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Speaker 3: Paul Center, I think it's fair to say, are probably

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Speaker 3: at the forefront of we are spending way too much money,

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Speaker 3: and your argument has been that essentially, and you correct

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Speaker 3: me if I'm wrong on any of this, but I'm

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Speaker 3: trying to lay it out and then let you make

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Speaker 3: the case. Essentially, we have embedded the government spending that

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Speaker 3: started with COVID, that accelerated at a rapid level, as

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Speaker 3: the default basis for budgets going forward. Instead of, for instance,

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Speaker 3: after World War Two, drastically dialing back spending, we have

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Speaker 3: allowed that spending process to become the basis upon which

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Speaker 3: all budget bills since COVID have been crafted.

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Speaker 1: Is that correct? How do we fix it if it

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Speaker 1: is correct?

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, welcome to this alternate universe. Thank yes, Washington, DC.

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Speaker 4: You know why.

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Speaker 2: Both were former residents here, so we we're like reform

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Speaker 2: swamp creatures.

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Speaker 4: But you're smart enough to move out and oh yeah, okay,

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Speaker 4: I come here part time. But no, I mean you

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Speaker 4: you stated the case pretty well. We spend four point

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Speaker 4: four trillion dollars in twenty nineteen, pandemic hits spent six

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Speaker 4: point five and we never looked back. And I've probably

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Speaker 4: said this on the show. I don't know of American

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Speaker 4: family if they got ill, somebody got ill, they had

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Speaker 4: to borrow fifty thousand dollars pay for medical bills. If

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Speaker 4: they got well. The next year, they want to keep

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Speaker 4: borrowing fifty thousand dollars and keep spending at that level.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly what we've done. So four point four this

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Speaker 4: year will spend over seven trillion. That's a fifty eight

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Speaker 4: percent increase next year about seven point three. And I

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Speaker 4: know these are a lot of numbers, but that's why

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Speaker 4: I do charts, yep. And you know what's what's kind

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Speaker 4: of depressing about my charts is it lays out of

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Speaker 4: a pretty depressing reality. Let me throw some more numbers

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Speaker 4: under the Bush administration eight years, they average death sus

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Speaker 4: to two hundred and fifty billion dollars year. Obama came

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Speaker 4: in his first four years one point three trillion. I

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Speaker 4: mean that sparked the Tea Party movement. That's why I

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Speaker 4: came into town. The Tea Party movement had an impact.

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Speaker 4: And those deficits in his last term was were five

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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty billion dollars. Trump comes into office, had

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Speaker 4: to do deals with Democrats. His average deficit was eight

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Speaker 4: hundred and ten then COVID hit one year three hundred

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Speaker 4: three point one trillion dollar deficit, and again with responsible

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Speaker 4: leaders like we had in World War Two. Okay, pandemic's

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Speaker 4: over time to return to pre pandemic levels. Eh, it's

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Speaker 4: not what Biden did. Biden continued to span again this

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Speaker 4: year about seven trillion. His average deficit for four years

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Speaker 4: was one point nine trillion. Okay, wait, so let's let's.

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Speaker 2: Jump in right there, because I think that's very important,

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Speaker 2: and we have the charts to work with. But all

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Speaker 2: trying to visualize these numbers as we go where Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's holding it up.

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Speaker 1: I wish we had.

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Speaker 2: Oh we're really small. But tell me this, where is

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Speaker 2: the additional money going? Because here's what happens every time

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Speaker 2: we talk about cutting. And I also have to bring

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Speaker 2: up some of the objections to the objections to the

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Speaker 2: big beautiful bill, and I want you to address those

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Speaker 2: in a second. But first, anytime we talk about cutting,

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Speaker 2: we could light up the phones for three hours straight. Here,

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Speaker 2: how dare you you want to touch my social security?

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Speaker 2: How dare you you want to touch my medicare?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 2: Hold on a second, if those things weren't being touched.

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Speaker 2: At eight hundred billion or a trillion a year, where's

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Speaker 2: the extra trillion dollars give or take that now? Is

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Speaker 2: the post pandemic spending norm what's that money going?

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Speaker 4: It's literally across the board. And that's why I've laid

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Speaker 4: out with my pre pandemic levels of spending that analysis

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Speaker 4: where you take actual total atlays, you exclude social Security, Medicare,

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Speaker 4: and interest, spend what you need to spend, and then

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Speaker 4: you plus up all those other outlays by population growth inflation.

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Speaker 4: And if you do that for twenty nineteen, for example,

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Speaker 4: this year, you'd be spending six point five versus the seven.

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Speaker 4: You know, if you go back to Clint or a bomb,

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Speaker 4: you'd be spending five point five to six point two. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So again it's across the board, which is why one

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Speaker 4: of the solutions is we need to forensically audit every line,

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Speaker 4: every program, like dose is done.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you're telling me then that there is of

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Speaker 2: of that spending increase, if it's coming from these is

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Speaker 2: it and you're not going to touch it? Sounds like

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Speaker 2: me like you wouldn't touch the non discretionary spending, right

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Speaker 2: because that's that's you're taking Medicare, social Security, and interest.

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Speaker 4: You see, that's right, that's part of mandatory. But you

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Speaker 4: also have Medicaid and we've got to fix the Obamacare

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Speaker 4: portion of that. Got a trillion dollars of other mandatory spending.

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Speaker 2: This is what I mean, where's that other trillion dollars?

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Speaker 2: That's it's it's medicaid and then just everything else.

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Speaker 4: So what they've done over years because nobody knows they're

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Speaker 4: doing this, because you have these omnibus spending bills and

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Speaker 4: just magically they move discretionary spending into the mandatory accounts.

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Speaker 4: So during COVID, that other mandatory now social cared to

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Speaker 4: Medicare or even medicaid. I think we're up top to

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Speaker 4: about two point two trillion dollars. In twenty nineteen was

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Speaker 4: six hundred and forty two billion, went to two point two.

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Speaker 4: It's been ramping down. Last year I think it was

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Speaker 4: one point three trillion. This year would be about a trillion.

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Speaker 4: That's a trillion out you mean discrationeray spending is about

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Speaker 4: one point seven.

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Speaker 2: You were a business guy. Trump was and still is

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Speaker 2: in many ways a business guy. When you say this

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Speaker 2: to him, what does he say, because he wants this

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Speaker 2: thing passed with with gusto. He wants this big, beautiful bill,

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Speaker 2: he believes. I'm sure you've talked about these numbers, right,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you talked.

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Speaker 5: I was.

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Speaker 4: I was in the White House, uh last Wednesday, and

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Speaker 4: and when my time to talk, I'd pulled out my chart.

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Speaker 1: He said.

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Speaker 3: By the way, way I've seen your last ten appearances,

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Speaker 3: you're too negative. Run One of your charts saved the

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Speaker 3: president's life. So you're so this is a different chart than.

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Speaker 4: Actually actually saved his life. Yes, so one chart saved

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Speaker 4: saved the president's life. I'm hoping this one saves America. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so what so?

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Speaker 3: He he says, what because the argument here is that

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Speaker 3: they would like to get this bill passed by July

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Speaker 3: fourth on the Senate side, it's already passed the House side.

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Speaker 3: Where are we do you think that's likely? How does

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Speaker 3: this get reconciled?

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Speaker 1: What? How? How does how does this senate?

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Speaker 3: Because it's not just you, it's Ran Paul, it's others

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Speaker 3: that have this perspective to not a huge majority, how

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Speaker 3: does this get solved?

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Speaker 4: So again, just so he told me I was being

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Speaker 4: too negative, and I took that to heart. I have

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Speaker 4: been pretty.

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Speaker 1: Generally a very jolly fellow. I will say I.

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Speaker 4: Smound my face. Okay, but you gotta lay out the reality.

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Speaker 4: So I had a great meeting just a couple of

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Speaker 4: hours ago the Vice President to Fance and Kevin Hassett,

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Speaker 4: and that was kind of what we arranged the White House. Okay,

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Speaker 4: let's let's get in the same page. You know, I

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Speaker 4: worked all weekend long. I wrote this report myself. These

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Speaker 4: are all my own charts. I'm the account here, right,

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Speaker 4: But we're gonna let Kevin Hassen his economic team go

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Speaker 4: through these, you know, check out the numbers. I'm not

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Speaker 4: sure when we're released this, but that's the first thing

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Speaker 4: you have to you have to get in the same page.

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Speaker 4: And I told the President the White House is the

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Speaker 4: first step in solving any problem, so you have to

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Speaker 4: admit you have one. So again, I have I have

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Speaker 4: been too too negative because I've been focusing on the

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Speaker 4: macro problem and I haven't been talking as positively as

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Speaker 4: I should on all the good things in the big

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Speaker 4: beautiful bill, because there are a lot of good thinge things.

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Speaker 4: We fund the border, we fund defense. This House did

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Speaker 4: a pretty good job of identifying about one point five

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Speaker 4: trillion dollars in spending reduction. That's that's good. We extend

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Speaker 4: current taxile, we take an automatic tax increase off the table,

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Speaker 4: we avoid default. Okay, those are all great things. My

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Speaker 4: only point, and I'm sorry I have to make it.

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Speaker 4: It just isn't enough. Okay. So what I've been asking

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Speaker 4: for always is a commitment to a to return to

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Speaker 4: a reasonable pre pandemic level spending and a process to

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Speaker 4: achieve and maintain it. Now I'm throwing into the method

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Speaker 4: because one and done won't work. I mean, this is

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Speaker 4: great progress that we'd be making with one big, beautiful bill.

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Speaker 4: I don't deny that, but it doesn't solve the problem.

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Speaker 4: So I'm looking for a forcing mechanism. So we come

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Speaker 4: back in this Congress. Not wait, tell winning an election.

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Speaker 2: You're telling me this is politically realistic, because that's the

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Speaker 2: next The next question is because because this is what's

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Speaker 2: being said, And you know, Stephen Miller is a very

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Speaker 2: smart in this White House.

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Speaker 1: He's been out.

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Speaker 2: There making the case that the objections to this are

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Speaker 2: more about people making a philosophical argument than operating within

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Speaker 2: the reality of what is possible, and that If you

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Speaker 2: don't do it this way, you're gonna have to work

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Speaker 2: with Democrats down the line who don't want to work

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Speaker 2: with you.

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Speaker 4: So can you address that again? We can use another

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Speaker 4: reconciliation process using the fiscal twenty twenty six budget. I

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Speaker 4: have gotten just basically positive feedback from President Trump's art

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Speaker 4: and supporters and also my supporters. Again, Republicans. We realize

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Speaker 4: we have a massive debt and death problem. Are they say, had.

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Speaker 2: Republicans who won't go along with what you want to do?

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Speaker 1: Here is that?

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Speaker 4: I mean, where's the problem. It seems so logical to us.

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Speaker 4: I would say part of it is marketing. Okay, the

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Speaker 4: House was all folks on getting this thing done, and

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Speaker 4: you know they pulled literally they pulled one point five

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Speaker 4: billion dollar out of the air. It really wasn't in context.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: When I saw that, I said, you guys have said

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Speaker 4: the bar way too low. We need the trillions of

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Speaker 4: dollars in long term to get this thing done. But

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Speaker 4: then they assigned more than half of that to e

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Speaker 4: NC the committee. All they can do is medicaid, so

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Speaker 4: they just open themselves up. You're gonna slash medicaid for

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Speaker 4: and you did make the case, you realize that what

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Speaker 4: we're trying to do is fix the Obamacare portion of

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Speaker 4: Medicaid called Medicaid expansion that pays when a state puts

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Speaker 4: a buck in for a single childless you know, working

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Speaker 4: age able bodied adult, the federal government puts in nine

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Speaker 4: bucks versus a dollar state puts in for a disabled

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Speaker 4: child tetal government kicks into dollar thirty three. That has

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Speaker 4: led to all kinds of distortions. There's a great artic

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Speaker 4: on the Wall Street Journal. A father of a seventeen

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Speaker 4: year oldartistic child can't get home care for ten years

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Speaker 4: because he's being crowded out by single adults.

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Speaker 2: That should be worked on in welfare for a Medicaid

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Speaker 2: just the big giant.

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Speaker 4: And so you literally are putting it risk the benefits

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Speaker 4: for the people that we want to help, both in

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Speaker 4: Medicare and Medicaid. So you've got to root out these things.

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Speaker 4: But you have to make the case, and you can't

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Speaker 4: make it in five months. So the game plan here,

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Speaker 4: so as Ice time and Vice President is okay, it's

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Speaker 4: going to take time. I propose a budget review panel,

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Speaker 4: hire forensic auditors, take the DOGE team, transfer them over

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Speaker 4: This process a House of Senate, a White House effort

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Speaker 4: to forensically audit every all more than two thousand lines

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Speaker 4: of federal budget, more than twenty six hundred federal programs.

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Speaker 4: We've never done it. We've never done it. And even

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Speaker 4: this process, you'll notice they've exempted most spending, most programs.

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Speaker 4: They focused on a couple They get slaughtered in the

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Speaker 4: public opinion because Democrats. It's easy pickings for them, because

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Speaker 4: they have the press behind them. I mentioned on the

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Speaker 4: Sunning shows, it's so easy to be a Democrat. You

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Speaker 4: spend your mortgage, kid's future, you never be held accountable

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Speaker 4: by the media. It's hard doing what we're trying to do.

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Speaker 4: The good news for your listeners is that we're all

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Speaker 4: pretty much on the same page. We want to fix

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Speaker 4: this problem. We just are dealing with something that's very

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Speaker 4: difficult to do.

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Speaker 3: What's timing and how significant is timing from your perspective?

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Speaker 3: Because the White House has said they'd like to have

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Speaker 3: this done in the Senate by July fourth, we know

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Speaker 3: that we don't have a very big majority in the House.

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Speaker 3: So Mike Johnson, Speaker is going to have to go

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Speaker 3: back and work through whatever conciliating bill is going to

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Speaker 3: come out.

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Speaker 1: What to you does this timeframe look like.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think most people thought the House right of

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Speaker 4: the House passed the Senate would water down. I think

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Speaker 4: the absence is true. I think we're going to make

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Speaker 4: it more conservative. I think we're going to be doing

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Speaker 4: even more reductions in terms of spending. And again I've

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Speaker 4: got colleagues that are demanding it so.

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Speaker 3: And there's some people who agree with you. Chip Roy

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Speaker 3: for instance, a friend of ours on the House side

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Speaker 3: wants way more spending, right, I mean this was an

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Speaker 3: issue for Mike spending cuts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean they've voted for it because they

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Speaker 4: kicked can over the House or the Senate hoping we'd

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Speaker 4: make it more conservative.

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Speaker 2: So this part that you talk about the marketing, I'm

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Speaker 2: just going to say this. You know, we've had Senator

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Speaker 2: Ran Paul on the show. We've talked to him, We've

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Speaker 2: heard about on this and so many issues, and a

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Speaker 2: lot of the time I just think he's making great arguments.

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Speaker 2: But in this moment, to talk about how there's too

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Speaker 2: much money going to the border after ten million illegals

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Speaker 2: came in under the Obama i mean Bob administration, and

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Speaker 2: to say that that's where we're gonna We're going to

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Speaker 2: start to make the savings happen in a meaningful way,

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Speaker 2: even if numerically you could start to make I just

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Speaker 2: think it's malpractice because people and this is about saving

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Speaker 2: the country, and you know, just to save money when

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Speaker 2: you're trying to save the country. I think people view

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Speaker 2: the urgency of the border and the illegal immigration issue

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Speaker 2: as you know, the policy equivalent of a war, meaning

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Speaker 2: if we don't do this thing right, we don't have

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Speaker 2: the same America going forward.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm a really frugal guy, and I don't mind

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Speaker 4: sharpening my pencil on any spending. He has chairming Homeland Security,

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Speaker 4: he should be doing oversight on this. Again, in the

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Speaker 4: first administration, we've spent six point six billion dollars to

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Speaker 4: build four and four and fifty miles a wall. Now

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Speaker 4: they're asking forty six and a half million a billion

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Speaker 4: just for the wall.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna well, we didn't have enough money to finish

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Speaker 2: the wall though, I remember that was a problem.

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Speaker 4: But there's not there's not three thousand and four thousand

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Speaker 4: miles to have to be built. So again I think

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Speaker 4: he's got a wall guy here. He's asking the questions.

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Speaker 3: Can you stay with us a little bit absolutly because

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Speaker 3: there's some more questions, but quickly as and then Buck's

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Speaker 3: got to do a read here time frame July fourth,

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Speaker 3: any chance in your advice, I.

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Speaker 4: Think that's I think that's ambitious. I think I really

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Speaker 4: think in the Senate we're looking more before August recess.

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Speaker 1: Before August, and it has to be done before August recess.

869
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 4: Well, the time just you know, DESSI is going to

870
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Speaker 4: expire sometime mid August to late September. So that's part

871
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 4: of the pressure. I mean, that's part what they do.

872
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 4: One of the reasons they bunded this all up is, yeah,

873
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 4: I don't want to see taxes increase. I don't want

874
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 4: a default on the death. So let's just put pressure

875
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 4: on us. So I've been very upfront. I nobody should

876
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 4: be surprised. I wrote my first column on a reasonable

877
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 4: pre pandemic level spending and options to do it in

878
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 4: the Wall Street Journal on January first. So again I've

879
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 4: been I've been beating this drum.

880
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Speaker 1: For a while.

881
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: Ron Johnson in the hot seat. He doesn't like it hot.

882
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 2: He prefers it cold. He's from Wisconsin, but we'll keep going. Look,

883
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: we're not dealing this debt. You know it, I know it,

884
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 2: which means that there's those long term issues of governance

885
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: and issues with the dollar, and owning gold is just

886
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: one way to prepare for that uncertain future. I've been

887
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: a gold guy for over a decade. My dad gave

888
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: me my first gold coin when I was in my twenties.

889
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 2: He said, you know what, he's a big gold believer,

890
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 2: and I've been a big gold believer ever since. I've

891
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: been building up my gold reserves, and man, the price

892
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: of gold has seen great appreciation in just the past year,

893
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: up forty percent. I'm also a big history guy. Clay

894
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: likes refer to us as history nerds. What has there

895
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: ever been a time when there's been a civilization in society?

896
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: They said, you know what, you know what, I don't

897
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: need gold, no value in that. Yeah, there's a reason

898
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: for this, all right, And that's why I think you

899
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: should call the Birch Gold Group.

900
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: That's who I use.

901
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 2: Trump administration is doing a lot to try to write

902
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: the ship, but they're not going to able to do

903
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: at all. And there's a lot more that we have

904
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: to look at in the future. In terms of the

905
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: spending gold makes sense. And by the way, you can

906
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: invest in gold or you could just have part of

907
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: your savings in a gold ira or four oh one k.

908
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: Very solid moves. One of the best ways to protect

909
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: your savings out there and to diversify. With Birch Gold's help,

910
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: text my name Buck to ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight.

911
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: I just bought some more gold myself, bars and coins

912
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 2: about two months ago. Text Buck to ninety eight ninety

913
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: eight ninety eight. Birch Gold will send you a free

914
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: infoKit on gold. No obligation, just useful information. Again. Text

915
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: my name Buck to ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight

916
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 2: or go to this website birch goold dot com slash Buck.

917
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: Clay and I in Washington, d c our Nation's capital,

918
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: but you're always with us when we're on the air

919
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: and off the air. Clay I was getting a salad

920
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: yesterday right from the airport, you know, trying to stay healthy,

921
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: trying to be beach ready over here to the that

922
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: I can. You know, Clay and Hi are trying to

923
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 2: be trying to be fit radio hosts, which puts us into.

924
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: A that's certainly by the way in Oxymoron, you know what.

925
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: Usually radio hosts like our bacon cheeseburgers. But I was

926
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 2: in there and within a few minutes of setting foot

927
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 2: in DC, some of our wonderful listeners came up to

928
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: me and they said they love the show and they

929
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: were visiting here. They were not swamp natives, but they

930
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: were visiting our nation's capital. So it's great to be

931
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: here with all of you. As you know, we've got

932
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of meetings lined up with the people

933
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: calling the shots here. Some at their request, they said

934
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 2: they want to spend some time with us. So we're

935
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: here doing our DC tour so we can touch base

936
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: with everybody from the President on Dowd who is running things.

937
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,479
Speaker 2: And also over the weekend, Clay. You know, we've talked

938
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 2: a little bit here about how it would be fun

939
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 2: to get you and Laura. We all know Laura is

940
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: going to be a fantastic shot if she isn't already

941
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: do a range day. So my brother Mason and I

942
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: completed the NRA Pistol Instructor Certification course over the weekend.

943
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 2: Had to call had to actually go through a bunch

944
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: of a bunch of range qualifications in order to do it.

945
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: But we came through.

946
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: You are wondering, it's fifteen yards steel sites, twenty shots.

947
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: I know a lot of you are instructors, and I

948
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: know a lot of you are instructors, you know, black

949
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: belt with three stripes on and all that. But for

950
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 2: those who aren't instructors, it was fifteen yards iron sights.

951
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 2: That wasn't a requirement, but our guy wanted us to

952
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: make sure we were dialed in, so it was fifteen

953
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 2: yards iron sights at least I think it was sixteen

954
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 2: or seventeen out of twenty in that six inch target.

955
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, so Clay, we can set up a range

956
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: day for you now. It'd be absolutely fantastic. NRA certified

957
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: and ready to rock and roll big timers. Yeah, that

958
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 2: would be a lot of fun.

959
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: Because my wife is pretty fired up about the need

960
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 3: for firearms training.

961
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: So I mentioned this on Mother's Day.

962
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 3: She had the kids and me out on the range

963
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 3: getting trained in firearms. I know, I loved it. I

964
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 3: saw the photos, I saw the video of it was

965
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 3: I don't know how many people wanted to spend their

966
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 3: Mother's day that way. My wife was that was brilliant.

967
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 3: I was so pleased to see it. I'll just tell

968
00:48:58,840 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 3: you though.

969
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: It was fun. During there were about twenty people in

970
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: this class. We had an excellent instructor down in South Florida.

971
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: But we had about twenty people in the class, and

972
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: I'd say about half of them. It was only two days, right,

973
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 2: it was Saturday and Sunday all day. But at the

974
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: end they all came up to like, hey man, love

975
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: the show. So we had a lot of I was like,

976
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 2: I think we're in a pistol class in South Florida

977
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Speaker 2: with NRA members and these are people that shoot a lot,

978
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 2: a lot of law enforcement, a lot of a lot

979
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: of people who guns are something that they're caring for

980
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: part of their job who were in the class. And

981
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 2: we had a lot of Clay and Buck people in there.

982
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: So it was unsurprised. Yeah, I was like, I think

983
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: we're with our people here. I looked around and was like, oh,

984
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: we are with our people. I think there's also I mean,

985
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: this is not going to surprise. We were up here

986
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 2: for Inauguration Day. But I do think that there are

987
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: a lot of people that the Trump team has brought

988
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: into DC. Even though DC is ninety two percent or

989
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: whatever it is of a Democrat stronghold. You know, I

990
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 2: lived here during Republican administration, and I lived here for

991
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: during at least part of a Democratic So I was

992
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: here for the Bush years, basically second Bush term. I

993
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 2: lived the whole second Bush term. I lived in DC

994
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: more or less, and the first two years of Obama,

995
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 2: I think I was here. And then when you have

996
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 2: that transition from one party to the other, it feels

997
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: like a very different town just based on who's here

998
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: and the vibe.

999
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 3: I was a kid, so it was less noticeable to me,

1000
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 3: meaning I was in college. But I came in at

1001
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 3: the very end of the Clintons and then the George W.

1002
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 3: Bush era, and then left right before nine to eleven,

1003
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 3: which obviously changed things tremendously for the worst in so

1004
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 3: many different ways. I mean, one of the reasons we're

1005
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 3: up here now is obviously to get as many Senators

1006
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 3: in as possible. You heard from Ron Johnson yesterday. We

1007
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 3: had Tommy Tuberville and Marsha Blackburn in here. We want

1008
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 3: to talk to as many newsmakers as we can in person.

1009
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 3: A lot more. We're going to have Marco Rubio in

1010
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 3: studio with us on Thursday for a couple of segments

1011
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 3: which I think you guys will really enjoy. Secretary of

1012
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 3: State will dive into some of those Ukraine questions that

1013
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 3: so many of you have, and also what's going on

1014
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 3: in the Middle East with Iran. A lot of different

1015
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 3: things we can talk about with Marco Rubio. But my

1016
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 3: seventeen year old and his friend, I'm in charge of him,

1017
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 3: and I was telling you yesterday we were in Georgetown.

1018
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: I am so thankful that I've got a seventeen year

1019
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 3: old boy, because if I had a seventeen year old daughter,

1020
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 3: there's no way she's gonna be I said, hey, guys,

1021
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: just make sure he and his friend, Hey, make sure

1022
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 3: you're back by by dark, and you guys can run

1023
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 3: around and you can be in Georgetown.

1024
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, Buck, if I had

1025
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: a seventeen.

1026
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 3: Year old daughter, there's no way on planet I would

1027
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 3: be letting her run around in Washington, d C. I

1028
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 3: would be nervous about her because because you have obviously

1029
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 3: you know I have this with my wife. Yeah, where

1030
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 3: you have the location finder on your phone. Yeah, my

1031
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 3: wife Kerry knows where I am at all times. She

1032
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 3: knows where she were, you know, and vice versa. But

1033
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 3: I know you have that with your boys. Yeah, of course,

1034
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 3: you know immediate family. If you had a seventeen year

1035
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 3: old daughter, what do you think she have to carry

1036
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 3: a GoPro around? You know, kind of like a like

1037
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 3: a cop, Like she has to wear a body cam

1038
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 3: just to make sure everything is on the up and up.

1039
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 3: I was glancing down just to make sure, you know, like, hey,

1040
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 3: where are they when we were having drinks and and.

1041
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: That's what I was like. I mean, if I had

1042
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: a seventeen year old.

1043
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 3: Daughter, there's no way on the planet I would be like, hey,

1044
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: just go wonder around. And you and your teenage girlfriend

1045
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 3: just go wonder around in Georgetown, have as much fun

1046
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 3: as you want.

1047
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: Just make sure you're back by dark.

1048
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 3: No, Dad, they would, they would, Unfortunately for them, they

1049
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 3: would have to do every meal with dad. And and

1050
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: I'm not as much worried about the boys running around.

1051
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 3: Maybe that's a poor decision by me on parenting, but

1052
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: who's the disciplinarian of you? And my wife is way

1053
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 3: tougher than I am. That's probably not gonna surprise you.

1054
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 3: But but I actually I think I think Carrie is

1055
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 3: gonna be for you, young James. I think Carrie's gonna

1056
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be visiting life, buddy. You don't want me

1057
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 3: to turn this over to your mom, right. I think

1058
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 3: Carrie's gonna be the law and order in our house.

1059
00:52:58,520 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 3: She's pretty tough on him sometimes.

1060
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: It's kind of funny we both are in that position.

1061
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be the one.

1062
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: That's like, you know, stuff happens.

1063
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 3: It's I already feel a little bit sorry for the

1064
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 3: girlfriends of these, uh, these boys, because I don't think

1065
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 3: that my boys that I don't think she's gonna go

1066
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 3: too easy on them. So anyway, I give thanks every

1067
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 3: single day that I've got three boys instead of three girls.

1068
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 3: And I was thinking about that yesterday as as we

1069
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: were rolling through enjoying.

1070
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: Let's Dive and you know this one better than me.

1071
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: I saw some of it over the weekend. I know

1072
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: you talked to Riley Gaines yesterday. There's some updates to this.

1073
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: The Simone Biles, who I remember, I got all that

1074
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 2: you got. Crush, I mean, Crush might be a little struck.

1075
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 2: There were some there was some sour leftists out there

1076
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 2: saying some mean.

1077
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 3: Things things because you said on the show that you

1078
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 3: have gotten ripped for harder than by like national media figures,

1079
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 3: very like your takee. I'm sitting here, I am like

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Speaker 3: to port them by the millions. And no problem, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I don't think we need to celebrate Simone Biles stepping

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Speaker 3: away from her team during the Olympics.

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Speaker 4: I didn't say that.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't like, oh, she's a coward, you know whatever,

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Speaker 2: And she's an incredible shape and I'm not, and she's

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00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 2: a world class gymnast. I just said, you know, if

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Speaker 2: you pull a hammy and you can't finish the injured list,

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00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 2: you go on the exactly. That's all I was saying.

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Speaker 2: And I got all these people are so so so

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Speaker 2: there's a little little history here, a little history here,

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Speaker 2: and I got actually got, I got tagged by a

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00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: few national media figures on that one. But anyway, update

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00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 2: everybody on the latest here. Because she said, as I said,

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Speaker 2: along too. Look I saw this from her fart Riley

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00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: gains to say, Riley Gaines looks like a man. Every

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Speaker 2: guy in our audience is like, nah, sorry, and every

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Speaker 2: gal I think, but I just you know, every guy's like, no,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't look.

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Speaker 1: Like a man. Nice dry.

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Speaker 3: It was a tough argument out of nowhere, though, for

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Speaker 3: those of you missed it, Riley was on yesterday talking

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Speaker 3: about this. Simone Biles just ripped her for saying and

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00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 3: all Riley had done that set precipitated this was Riley

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00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 3: shared a photo of a Minnesota high school softball championship

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00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 3: team and a was on the girls team, which is

1106
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 3: absurd and way taller. And all she said was they've

1107
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 3: turned the comments off so people on social media couldn't react,

1108
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 3: and out of nowhere, Simone Biles decided to tee off

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Speaker 3: on her and then said you look like a man,

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Speaker 3: which again, I mean, Simone Biles has done all these

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Speaker 3: body positivity things. Riley is five, you know, she measured

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Speaker 3: herself like five to five or five six. So now,

1113
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 3: after multiple days of just getting attacked like crazy for

1114
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 3: being on the wrong side of this issue, I wonder

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00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 3: you haven't seen this. I want to read Simone Biles

1116
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 3: has some sort of strange pr apology up and here's

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00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 3: what she posted just a little bit ago. I wanted

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00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 3: to follow up from my last tweets. I've always believed

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Speaker 3: competitive equity. First of all, buck competitive equity. Competitive equity

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Speaker 3: is not a thing. Competitive equality is a thing. The

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Speaker 3: entire point of competition is to eliminate equity. We don't

1122
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 3: want everybody to be the exact same, but I always

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Speaker 3: believe competitive equity and inclusivity are essential in sport. The

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00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 3: current system doesn't adequately balance these important principles, which often

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Speaker 3: leads to frustration and heated exchanges. And it didn't help

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Speaker 3: for me to get personal with Riley, which I apologize for.

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00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 3: These are sensitive, complicated issues that I truly don't have

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Speaker 3: the answers or solutions too, but I believe it starts

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00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 3: with empathy and respectful Well, this is written for her

1130
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 3: by some PR crisis team.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. We know that you and I have

1132
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: been in this game long enough to know that.

1133
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 3: And she's still going, Oh, I'm sorry, No, no, no, the

1134
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 3: PR team wrote this ridiculous statement. I was not advocating

1135
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 3: for policies that compromise fairness in women's sports. My objection

1136
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 3: is to singling out children for public scrutiny in ways

1137
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,760
Speaker 3: that feel personal and harmful. Individual athletes, especially kids, should

1138
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 3: never be the focus of criticism of a flawed system.

1139
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: They have no control over.

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Speaker 3: I believe sports organizations have a responsibility to come up

1141
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 3: with rules supporting inclusion while maintaining fair competition, which is

1142
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 3: actually impossible. We all want a future for sport that

1143
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 3: is fair, inclusive, and respectful hugs and kisses, Simone. Yeah, okay,

1144
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 3: so that was written by a PR team. Yeah, but

1145
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 3: she realizes there are a few things here. First of all,

1146
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 3: her position, first and foremost, her position is not just

1147
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 3: on her real position. I don't mean the PR thing,

1148
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 3: the thing that she said about Riley, her position on

1149
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 3: men and women's sports is irrational and indefensible. And then

1150
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 3: to add on top of that, to go after a

1151
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 3: honestly anyone's appearance based on a political issue like this,

1152
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 3: you've always really lost just to start off with, I mean,

1153
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 3: to do to the like you look like a man thing.

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Speaker 2: Fortunately Riley, you know, would have to get into this,

1155
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 2: but no one thinks Riley looks like a man. I mean,

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00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 2: she's a very very lovely woman in very good physical condition.

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00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 2: And I just think that she realized that she did

1158
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 2: real brand damage here on top of the political issue.

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Speaker 1: You don't attack somebody's appearance.

1160
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Speaker 4: Especially somebody who's really good looking, like that's just insane.

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Speaker 3: I think she lit herself on fire here. And it

1162
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 3: took three four days for her to put out this

1163
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 3: Mealy mouthed jumbly, not particularly well. Even with all of

1164
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 3: the PR dollars that she's spending, that was just a

1165
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 3: jumble of nothing. And when you just type out what

1166
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 3: somebody tells you to say, I would have more respect

1167
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 3: for even though I would disagree with her completely, if

1168
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 3: she just said I said what I said, I'm right now.

1169
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you own it.

1170
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: At least I know I wouldn't.

1171
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: Agree with to play Travis Speescher right there, I'm doubling down, tripling.

1172
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that I'm not gonna say at some

1173
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 3: point in my career something that I didn't intend to say,

1174
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 3: but in twenty years it's never happened, So you should apologie.

1175
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,959
Speaker 3: I've been married twenty years. Look, you should apologize if

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00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 3: you do things that you don't intend to do and

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00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 3: that that that are not reflective of your intentionality.

1178
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: But that's not this.

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00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 2: Also, she could have written she she could have just

1180
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 2: written out and said, you know, and we would know

1181
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: it was from her, meaning she actually did the writing.

1182
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 2: Someone Biles could could write out on her Twitter or

1183
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 2: Instagram or wherever this is.

1184
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: And Riley that was that was wrong.

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00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: You know, you're a beautiful young woman and a talented athlete,

1186
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry that I would.

1187
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that I would cross the line.

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00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 2: There's a heated political issue and I just want to

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00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 2: have respect for all people or whatever, something where she

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00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: doesn't even have to get too deep into the politics

1191
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 2: of it, but something that's a little bit heartfelt. This

1192
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 2: is my PR team came in and cleaned up my mess,

1193
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: which to me is once again inauthentic, Like I just

1194
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: don't believe that she wrote this herself, and clearly of course,

1195
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 2: but so that's what so it's it's not an authentic apology.

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00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: If it's an authentic apology, you write it yourself. You

1197
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: just say, look, I cross the line, my bad. I

1198
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 2: wouldn't do that again, and you know, and you could

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Speaker 2: move on from there. But to me, this is just

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Speaker 2: I still wonder, Buck, what is the intent here. She's

1201
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: not that active on social media, she's not that political.

1202
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Speaker 2: Did someone pay her to attack Riley like this? It

1203
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense to me that you would suddenly

1204
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 2: decide based on a photo of a Minnesota she might

1205
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: have seen someone else that she respects and likes or

1206
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 2: that wants the approval of. This is just me surmising

1207
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: or analyzing this, and and she thought that there was

1208
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Speaker 2: an opportunity here to score some points with someone or

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01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 2: some group that she wants the admiration of, because I

1210
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: agree with you, this is not you know, they're they're

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Speaker 2: like when when Keith Albburn's chirping at you, it's because

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Speaker 2: he's always chirping and everybody, right, I mean that's his job, right,

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. You disagree like most people, I think,

1214
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 2: like someone Biles and now they don't. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Keith Olberman has a constituency miserable, childless, sixty five year

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Speaker 2: old women that he represents, and.

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Speaker 3: That's just the way it goes. And he looks more

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Speaker 3: and more every single day like a five year old

1219
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Speaker 3: lesbian true story in front of mine. Just got back

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Speaker 3: from a trip with his family to Ireland. Do you

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Speaker 3: know who he bumped into on the street in Dublin?

1222
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1226
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Speaker 1: She said she doesn't like it.

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Speaker 4: She's gonna come home.

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Speaker 3: Of course she doesn't like it. I mean, America, the

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Speaker 3: Irish don't like her. There may be this would be

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Speaker 3: a fun debate. If you're super wealthy, as Rosie is.

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