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Speaker 1: Oh here we go, Hour two and of Friday first

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Speaker 1: hour flew by Yankees. Moving on, Oh Canada, You're in trouble, jamac.

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Speaker 1: The last couple of weeks been a little turbulent for

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Speaker 1: your picks. I went four and three.

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Speaker 3: Last week with the Alabama game.

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Speaker 1: Puts me over the edge college. I've done some over

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Speaker 1: unders this year because the audience is doing that. I

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Speaker 1: almost did a pop this week on over under for

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Speaker 1: a receiver I did. I did an over under on

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Speaker 1: CD LAMB catches earlier that year. So the reason I

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Speaker 1: people say, why don't you just make picks, because that's

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Speaker 1: not what people are doing anymore. People are doing props,

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Speaker 1: they're doing over unders, and so I've always said, audience

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Speaker 1: drives the bus. I watched the percentage of picks people make,

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Speaker 1: and I've got another over under. We hit it last week.

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Speaker 1: We told you last week take the Patriots Panthers over,

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Speaker 1: and I got another one this week. So you're ready

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Speaker 1: to go.

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Speaker 3: Let's fire away.

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Speaker 1: Here's my blazing five.

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Speaker 2: Let's blaze it up, it up. It's Collins blazing fuck

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Speaker 2: Raiders and Colts.

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Speaker 1: I like the Colts at home to win and cover.

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Speaker 1: First of all, they lead the NFL in yards per play.

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Speaker 1: That's a big stat for the wise guys, six point five.

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Speaker 1: An incredibly efficient offense that scores on sixty six percent

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Speaker 1: of the drives. O line gives a run game in

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones plenty of space. In fact, in two home

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Speaker 1: starts this year, he's completing seventy one and a half

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Speaker 1: percent of his throats. The Raiders are beat up, tied

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Speaker 1: for the most giveaways in the league, twenty second rank defense.

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Speaker 1: They're now missing their left tackle, Colton Miller, who's their

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Speaker 1: best offensive lineman. So I think right now I get

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Speaker 1: a better all line, significantly a better consistent run game.

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Speaker 1: I think the Colts are really really talented. I've been

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Speaker 1: saying this for years. I think they're going to run

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Speaker 1: away now with this division twenty eight to twenty Colts

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Speaker 1: win it won't feel this close. They win and cover

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Speaker 1: the spread. Cowboys and Jets. I like the Jets when

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Speaker 1: the numbers plus three. Three of their four losses have

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Speaker 1: come in one score games, and when justin fields plays,

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Speaker 1: they average twenty seven a game and almost four hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys are beat up, seventeen players on the injured list,

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys in the secondary, in the old line,

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't a good pass blocking unit when they

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Speaker 1: were healthy. They've allowed thirty plus points has Dallas in

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Speaker 1: three straight games. Probably the worst defense in the league.

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Speaker 1: They're bad on third down, they're bad on the back end,

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Speaker 1: and they're all beat up. And they've also allowed a

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Speaker 1: ton of big plays and with those legs can create those.

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Speaker 1: I think the Jets at home healthier win twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: twenty seven, take the points.

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Speaker 2: Broncos at Eagles.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the Hulk. Denver plus three and a half

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Speaker 1: the side I'm on. Sean Payton ranks second in October

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Speaker 1: win percentage in the Super Bowl era, behind only John Madden.

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Speaker 1: Both losses for Denver this year have come on game

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Speaker 1: winning field goals as time expired. Best team in the

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Speaker 1: defense is tied with Seattle. It's only given up sixteen

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Speaker 1: a game. I think this roster is outstanding. Eagles have

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Speaker 1: been outgained in all four games. Now you got aj

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Speaker 1: Brown drama. The offense is thirtieth ranked. That means the

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Speaker 1: coordinator does not fit and they're not getting to the

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Speaker 1: So this team is kind of not right now, working

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Speaker 1: on all cylinders. Maybe if it's a three point spread, no,

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Speaker 1: to win close, low scoring game twenty four to twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Bucking Ears at Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: I like Seattle here, second best point differential in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: They're great at home, second least penalized team. They don't

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Speaker 1: can like Baker, though has nine turnover worthy plays this year.

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Speaker 1: TFF said that's tied for the most in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And Tampa is in too many close games. They make

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Speaker 1: more mistakes. Also, Tampa's got sixteen players on the injured list,

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, does not feel as dominant. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: Titans and Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: I like the over forty one and a half. Neither

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Speaker 1: Listen to Titans that faced four pretty good defenses Broncos, Rams, Colts, Texans,

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Speaker 1: won't be as dominant a defense. And again unrest Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Skilled people are outstanding defense for the Titans, not great.

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Speaker 1: Don't get to the quarterback. Their defense doesn't do anything

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Speaker 1: particularly well. The overs forty one and a half, it's

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Speaker 1: the horizon. Cardinals win at thirty one to thirteen. Take

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Speaker 1: the over in this game. And with that, Julian Edelman

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Speaker 1: appreciate that. On a Friday, came about last night. I

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Speaker 1: can remember this year's ago. I always thought fumbles, Julian,

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Speaker 1: last night. Blake krum Kyron Williams had five fumbles last

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Speaker 1: the best nights he's had as a pro and they

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Speaker 1: lose at home, much healthier team. What did New England

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Speaker 1: do all those years, because after seven or eight years,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we used to have them auto ball securities,

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Speaker 4: job security, and Bill would literally witch. I'm sure right

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Speaker 4: that are rooting for the team. That's how important the

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Speaker 4: So we used to talk about it, and when you

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Speaker 4: also have cutups of that defense that we were playing

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Speaker 4: were a ball hawking team. You know, I vividly remember

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Speaker 4: the Ravens. They'd always come after the ball and you'd

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Speaker 4: May not have been a fumble, but just to show

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Speaker 2: Ball securities, job security.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I've seen Darnold and Baker and Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones and now Mac Jones be reborn. I was so

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Speaker 1: impressed with him last night. First of all, anytime a

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Speaker 4: He played great. I mean he threw for what three

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Speaker 4: This is a heck of a start for the San

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Speaker 4: Francisco forty nine ers. They've really had to overcome some adversity.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was really going to hit him hard

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Speaker 4: the game. Kendrick Bourne and Mac Jones, they clearly have

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Speaker 4: success in his body language. And he's obviously matured over

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Speaker 1: Yeah, accurate, good velocity, back shoulder throw is really impressive.

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Speaker 1: Drake May. I got to tell you last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't make a lot of mistakes. They're not putting

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Speaker 1: What are you hearing from Rabel in New England on

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Speaker 1: Drake May? Because it looks like they found their guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they found a guy that they can

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Speaker 4: think can become the franchise guy. I mean it's still

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Speaker 4: super early in the evaluation process. Last week or two

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Speaker 4: still got to win these games.

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Speaker 2: And this is a good situation for.

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Speaker 4: Him now because after the loss, how did he come

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Speaker 4: to play when you're not playing very well, and he

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Speaker 4: to go play the big brother in the division who's been,

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Speaker 4: And it'll be really interesting to see if he could

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Speaker 2: The next week against the Panthers.

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Speaker 1: Well, it didn't happen often, but I've spent the last

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Speaker 4: I agree with you one thousand percent. This is what

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Speaker 2: And that's what he's been doing.

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Speaker 4: He understands that he doesn't need to take a big

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Speaker 2: Just throw the ball away.

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Speaker 1: So the Eagles aren't doing anything well offensively, and it's

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Speaker 4: Fortunate enough to play with two really good offensive coordinators,

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Speaker 4: Last year, at this point, we thought the you know,

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Speaker 4: So I still think that they're trying to figure out

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Speaker 4: I mean they're still four and oh they're collecting wins

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Speaker 1: So the Chiefs offense had been I mean like a

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Speaker 4: They're gonna have more offensive weapons this year once they

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Speaker 1: Finally, you got inducted into the Patriots Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Julian Edelman Fox NFL Kickoff Sundays on Fox it's great

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Speaker 1: seeing you man on Fox.

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Speaker 2: Great seeing you two guys.

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Speaker 1: He joins us on FS one regularly and he's on

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Speaker 1: Fox on Sundays. Plus Games with Names is his highly

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Speaker 1: entertaining podcast. Blazing five is in the books. I will

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Speaker 5: It's scary because I like your picks a lot. Colin,

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Speaker 5: The Titans just got shut out. Okay, the Titans are garbage.

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Speaker 5: the ball back door it.

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Speaker 3: Can so cam mort will keep checking.

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Speaker 5: A quick note on the Bucks I'm waiting for the

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Speaker 5: injury of or but Bucky Irving, the stud running back,

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Speaker 5: hasn't practiced this week, so Tampa could be without Mike

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Speaker 5: Evans and Bucky Irving against a top three defense in

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Speaker 5: the league in Seattle.

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Speaker 3: Not great for the Bucks.

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Speaker 1: We've got an interesting story coming up on Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: really interesting story. A coach calls him out and I

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Speaker 5: We've been watching this one all week, Colin. That's the

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Speaker 5: Ravens injuries. It is bleak. John Harbaugh just spoke to

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Speaker 5: the media. Kyle Hamilton now.

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Speaker 3: Added to the list of guys not practicing.

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Speaker 5: I mean, goodness, gracious, you see that line Texans minus

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Speaker 5: two and a half, Colin, it was Ravens minus nine and.

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Speaker 3: A half last week before Week four games.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Ravens are way better, but they're down a billion guys.

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Speaker 3: Here's Mark Andrews talking about the mindset of the team

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Speaker 3: through the injuries.

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Speaker 6: Everybody here in this organization is Who're all fighters. You know,

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Speaker 6: we've been through adversity. We know what that looks like.

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Speaker 6: And there's no quit in this group. And I'm excited

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Speaker 6: to show the world that. The beautiful thing is that

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Speaker 6: we had a lot of fighters in this group, and

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Speaker 6: you know, a deep organization with a ton of players

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Speaker 6: that are going to step up and make plays. And

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Speaker 6: I just got a lot of faith and trust in

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Speaker 6: the guys.

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Speaker 5: So uh this, I mean, the screen is almost unfathomable.

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Speaker 5: You know, this is like, I don't know what ninety

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Speaker 5: percent of these guys are, yeah.

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Speaker 3: But pro bowlers over that level.

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Speaker 1: But the Niners last night, same situation and they beat

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Speaker 1: McVeigh and Stafford.

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Speaker 3: Well they had mac Jones and Kyle Shanahan. And now

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Speaker 3: you're time out.

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Speaker 1: Cooper, I got see, I got c J. Straw. I mean, Cooper,

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Speaker 1: what you want about Cooper Rush? He had a winning

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Speaker 1: record When Mike McCarthy used Cooper Rush for a month,

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Speaker 1: Cooper Rush had a winning record.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's Mike McCarthy. Really good offensive coach. I don't

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Speaker 5: know Baltimore and Max said, you do have a good

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Speaker 5: point obviously that uh you know, the Niners are beat

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Speaker 5: up and they still won. But Kause it's the defense

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Speaker 5: that scares me. Rokwan Smith, he calls all the plays defensively. Okay,

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Speaker 5: then you're back end Kyle Hamilton. They have no pass rush,

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Speaker 5: No Van Noy your a guy who comes on the show.

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Speaker 5: Their top cornerback, Wiggins is out. Humphrey who couldn't guarden

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Speaker 5: me out of the slot right now he's down. I

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Speaker 5: mean they are in rough shape. I just on principle,

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Speaker 5: I gotta go with the Texans here under three do

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Speaker 5: you have the stomach to don't.

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Speaker 1: Have the stomach I just when I watched the Niners

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Speaker 1: last night, I think they're in worse shape than Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: And I mean mac Jones. Nobody thought Mac joneses now

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Speaker 1: three and no Mac Jones was dead and buried in

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Speaker 1: this league, like worse than Daniel Jones. At least won

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Speaker 1: a playoff game. Mac Jones, the Jaguars had him. He's

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Speaker 1: a hometown kid. They're like not interested. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: my takeaway on this is, I wouldn't count the Ravens out.

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Speaker 1: I watched the Niners last night. I wouldn't count him out.

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Speaker 5: I'll just say mac Jones, you know, got to the

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Speaker 5: playoffs as a rookie with the Patriots. I know they

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Speaker 5: got smoked like forty seven to seven or whatever by

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Speaker 5: the Bills, but.

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Speaker 3: He at least got to the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Cooper rush four games, simple size, He's like

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Speaker 5: a so Lamar runs around, does all these awesome things.

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Speaker 3: Cooper's a statue. He's not mobile.

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Speaker 5: I think you have to totally change your offense, don't you.

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Speaker 1: Well, but they have some good pieces. They have good pieces.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's a Derek Henry game.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm backing Willy Anderson in this one. Let's go to the.

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Speaker 5: Next story, and that's the Great Chargers Commander's game out

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Speaker 5: here at SOFI Sunday. I will be in the building

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Speaker 5: for that one. I don't feel great about the Chargers Colin.

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Speaker 5: Big news here, Terry McLaurin has not played or practice.

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Speaker 5: He will not make the trip out west. For the

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Speaker 5: Commanders and their offense, I know they got I think

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Speaker 5: twenty seven on the Falcons with Mariota, but.

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Speaker 3: I just I didn't see.

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Speaker 5: It totally with Washington, they were totally different team without

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Speaker 5: mclaurin's stretching the field. Deebo Samuel obviously underneath is good

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Speaker 5: and for the Chargers, Joe All is doubtful.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm staying away from Charger game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's smart.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I again, love the coach, love the quarterback, love

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Speaker 1: some of the defensive players. But if you don't, it's

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Speaker 1: like Minnesota. Now, I'm staying away from Minnesota, Cleveland. If

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Speaker 1: you're missing two and three starters in the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: you know, if your run game works at works, but

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Speaker 1: stay away time for me on Minnesota and the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: I'm just staying away from those teams.

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Speaker 5: Let me ask you about so running quarterbacks have given

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Speaker 5: the Chargers problem.

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Speaker 3: Jackson Dart last week was the latest.

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Speaker 5: Do you think Jayden Daniels coming off a knee injury

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Speaker 5: in two weeks out is.

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Speaker 3: Going to be running at all?

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 2: He came back.

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Speaker 3: Remember last year he was injured.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 5: We're not going glass Joe Burrow on him, but he

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Speaker 5: was banged up last year and didn't run for a bit,

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Speaker 5: and it kind of took away his superpower, which is

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Speaker 5: the Josh Allen Lamar. I could just make things happen.

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Speaker 5: I'm rooting Chargers here obviously. I think the Chargers get

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Speaker 5: it done. This is kind of a big swing game

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Speaker 5: for them that you don't want to lose two games

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Speaker 5: of Washington and the Giants back to back, because now

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Speaker 5: the Chiefs are playing the Jags and if they win

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Speaker 5: that they're creeping back in the division.

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Speaker 1: And here comes Denver, which played very well against Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: and I think he has a chance to beat Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: So this division is going to go down to the

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Speaker 1: last two or three weeks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, probably will. All right, let's go to baseball for

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Speaker 5: the final story.

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Speaker 4: Calm.

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Speaker 2: There was some.

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Speaker 5: Controversy in the Cubs Padres game if you're watching on

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Speaker 5: the screen, you could see that pitch was definitely low

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Speaker 5: to Xander Bogart's clearly out of the strike zone. Bogarts

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Speaker 5: loses his mind. The Padres were irate. Here's Bogarts on

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Speaker 5: the terrible call.

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Speaker 2: After the game, we talk about it now, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know it's a balling Yeah, it's just the whole game,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Can't go back in time

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Speaker 2: and talking about it now won't change anything. So it was.

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Speaker 6: It was bad and tank golf A abs exit because

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Speaker 6: this is terrible.

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Speaker 5: I know you're deep in the baseball right now. I'm

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Speaker 5: just curious where you are on this system, Like why

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Speaker 5: test it in spring training and not use it in

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Speaker 5: the postseason?

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Speaker 2: What do I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like? The pitch clock was I remember years ago being

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Speaker 1: on a flight UH and I sat next to a uh,

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Speaker 1: the Richmond Minor League baseball general manager, and they were

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Speaker 1: using the pitchclock already in the minor league for a

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Speaker 1: couple of years, so they wanted to you know, the

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Speaker 1: pitchclock was dramatic. Traditionalists hated it. Pictures, the Union and everybody,

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Speaker 1: you know, people were like, well oh wha, wha, whoa.

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Speaker 1: So they used it in the minor league for a

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Speaker 1: couple of years. Well, now this system you're getting, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get rid of the you know, look you look

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Speaker 1: at that system.

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Speaker 7: Is it?

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Speaker 1: The traditionalists, the umpires don't like it, so you want

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Speaker 1: to get things right by the way they used it

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Speaker 1: in the All Star Game. Super efficient, super quick, and

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Speaker 1: it works. So they're just I have no problem with

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Speaker 1: baseball doing due diligence here. Baseball, for the last three years,

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Speaker 1: it has made multiple changes. They've often gone to them.

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Speaker 1: One of the great advantages that baseball has over every

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Speaker 1: other sport. They have a minor league system and they

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Speaker 1: can experiment in the minor leagues and then bring it

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Speaker 1: into the show. So it's it's you know, it's funny

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Speaker 1: about baseball. Baseball fans will say, well, oh, football only

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Speaker 1: has got one game a week. We're at a big disadvantage.

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Speaker 1: The advantage of baseball. It's every night, so you get

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Speaker 1: so emotionally invested. Like with baseball, I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: sit and watch beginning to end regular season games. I'll

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Speaker 1: see highlights, I'll see them three innings, But like last night,

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Speaker 1: I could all day I'm sitting around waiting to watch

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Speaker 1: the Yankees and Red Sox, and I think the emotion.

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Speaker 1: I mean, here in Chicago, it's like nobody was on

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Speaker 1: the train. Everybody was home watching the Cubs, listening on radio,

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Speaker 1: or at Wrigley Field. So I mean, my take is

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Speaker 1: Baseball's made a lot of changes over the last three

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Speaker 1: years and they've nailed all of them. So they're going

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Speaker 1: to use the minor league system. They tried it in

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Speaker 1: the All Star Game. Next year we'll have it, and

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm in a back baseball. I think they've had

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Speaker 1: a hell of a three year run.

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Speaker 5: So this is similar to in the NFL where you

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Speaker 5: can challenge plays, and in the NBA they have this

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Speaker 5: new challenge system with the Hawkeye camera. But the padres

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Speaker 5: were so ticked off. There's video of their reaction at

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Speaker 5: the end of the game, Like, I mean, they were

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Speaker 5: losing their minds going after the officials and the umpires.

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Speaker 5: Like here they are leaving and look at the padres.

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Speaker 5: They kind of got to be held back from going

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Speaker 5: after the umpires and listen, man.

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Speaker 3: I understand the frustration. It's the ninth inning.

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Speaker 5: And everyone watching, with five million people watching, can see

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Speaker 5: that it was out of the strike zone.

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Speaker 3: Don't you want him to get it right. It's just disappointing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's I think most umpires are great.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was at the Illinois USC game this

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Speaker 1: weekend and two different officials, three actually came up to

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Speaker 1: me and thanked me. That said, hey, I appreciate you always.

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Speaker 1: You have a reputation as you will defend officials. And

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Speaker 1: my take is I didn't grow up with all these

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Speaker 1: thirty seven replays. Think about this, in a football stadium

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five or in a baseball park in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, there's only one person who only sees

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Speaker 1: the play once, the umpire or the official. They get

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Speaker 1: at once in real speed, So everybody crushes these guys.

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Speaker 1: These games go fast. The guys are now throwing one

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Speaker 1: oh four. It's just harder to officiate. And then you're

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Speaker 1: subject to criticism because you have fumbles last night happening

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Speaker 1: in the Rams Niners game at the bottom of a

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Speaker 1: pile and you can see it. And so I think

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Speaker 1: we all. I don't like crushing officials because first of all,

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Speaker 1: you get fans worked up and they already get tons

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Speaker 1: of abuse. The first baseball game I ever went to

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Speaker 1: as a kid in the Kingdome. They were booing the umpires.

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Speaker 1: So they already get death threats and all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I think last year, you just last year Fox

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Speaker 1: during the super Bowl last year, think about this. Fox

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Speaker 1: used two hundred and forty cameras. The first Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: had like four. We used two hundred and forty cameras.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't that apply to your work?

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Speaker 5: Smarter, not harder, Like, let's just bring on the bring

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Speaker 5: on the robots, bring on the cameras.

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Speaker 3: Let's get it right.

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Speaker 1: I would over listen to the NFL doesn't have full

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Speaker 1: time officials. If you could just use cameras and chips,

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Speaker 1: why wouldn't I wouldn't football. I don't think you can

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Speaker 1: never do that past down, No, I mean, I'm but

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Speaker 1: I think people beat up the officials. And it's like, guys,

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Speaker 1: it's a hard job that's gotten a lot harder.

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Speaker 5: Colin eight master, Yeah, the padres worked what eight months

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Speaker 5: for this?

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Speaker 3: They get to the ninth inning, they're down three to one.

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Speaker 5: Runners is going position, and you get this crap, Like

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Speaker 5: I would be pissed, I'll be ticked off.

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Speaker 2: Oh I get it.

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Speaker 1: Jmack with the News, Well that's the.

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Speaker 2: News and thanks for stopping by.

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Speaker 1: It's The Herd Live, very very interesting article. So Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick at Carolina has been nothing short of a disaster.

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Speaker 1: Like they're not competitive, They're getting blown out by average teams.

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Speaker 1: I don't think any of us thought this. I mean

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Speaker 1: not all of us thought they were gonna roll the

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Speaker 1: you know, roll through the schedule. I thought they would

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Speaker 1: lose to Clemson. But this one coach has an explanation.

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Speaker 2: Next, be sure to catch live editions of The Herd

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Speaker 2: weekdays in Noon Easter nin am Pacific on Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 5: Big Noon is back in ann Arbor and Michigan's own

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Speaker 5: president Dae is leading the charge. The pregame party starts

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Speaker 5: at ten am Eastern. Then it's quarterback Bryce Underwood and

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Speaker 5: the Wolverines going head to head with Wisconsin at noon

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Speaker 5: Big Noon Saturday only on socks.

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Speaker 1: So Bill Belichick assembled a very poor roster. We said

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Speaker 1: that after the first game against TCU, they just do

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Speaker 1: not many good players. So a coach, a Group five

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Speaker 1: head coach said this, they miscalculated the way they were

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Speaker 1: taking guys in the portal and paying dudes. It made

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Speaker 1: me wonder did they actually understand the landscape they were in.

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Speaker 1: Did they understand they're in the ACC, not the Conference

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Speaker 1: USA or Sun Belt? Like, we got beat by North

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Speaker 1: Carolina a bunch of kids, And I like, why the

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Speaker 1: blank is North Carolina beating us on kids? They're recruiting

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Speaker 1: the guys we recruit. And this is a coach in

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Speaker 1: a smaller program and a smaller conference. So Belichick seventy

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Speaker 1: three years old, basically, and I have a theory on

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Speaker 1: this number one, to get the best guys in the portal,

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Speaker 1: because Carolina had some money. To get the best guys

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Speaker 1: in the portal, you gotta kiss a lot of butt,

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Speaker 1: and you gotta work much harder. And Bill wasn't up

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Speaker 1: for it. Secondly, a little the Charlie Weiss thing when

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Speaker 1: Bill comes in thinking, maybe you know, schematically, I'm dealing

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Speaker 1: with a bunch of ACC football coaches. We're gonna outsmart

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Speaker 1: these guys, and you know, we're gonna build a culture.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to have five star guys. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that's true, but I will tell you one

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Speaker 1: thing that is unequivocally true. And one of the concerns

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Speaker 1: I had when Belichick and Mike Lombardi took it over.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, they're pros, they're pro guys. Charlie Weis is

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Speaker 1: a pro guy. He's not gonna understand. He's not gonna

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Speaker 1: have that feel. He's done a butt kisser. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of that New Jersey rough personality. And that's fine, but

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Speaker 1: that's a pro personality. You have to kiss Bob, you know.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson Jim Harbaugh are one those one and two

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll. It worked both ways. Pete's got a big personality.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy's got a big personality, and Harbaugh, you know, can

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Speaker 1: really turn it on and off personality wise. Bill doesn't.

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Speaker 1: And I've said this for years. There's only I remember

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Speaker 1: telling Rex Ryan this one time. I said, dude, you'd

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Speaker 1: be a great college coach. You did well in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You could do college because Rex can talk to talk.

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Speaker 1: Rex is very verbal, big emotion, good looking guy, big smile,

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Speaker 1: full of laughs. Rex Ryan would have worked in college,

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Speaker 1: but he wasn't as good as some of the other

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Speaker 1: NFL coaches. And John Gruden to me, I would hire

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Speaker 1: him in a heartbeat in college football. Gruden again, personality

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Speaker 1: can turn on the charm. He could recruit. So Rex,

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Speaker 1: Ryan and Gruden were the two guys to me that

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Speaker 1: would always work. Mike Tomlin, I think is kind of

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Speaker 1: a dude. He'd walk in, you know, the mom would

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Speaker 1: be impressed, the dad would think he's cool to play.

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Speaker 1: I think Mike Tomlin can work at the college level

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Speaker 1: as well, but my theory is not all He's got

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Speaker 1: Bill Parcells. In college. He'd have no time for nonsense.

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Speaker 1: Bill Parcells would spend five minutes with one booster and

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Speaker 1: be like, get me out of here. Belichick's not built

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Speaker 1: for college football. He never had any interest in it.

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Speaker 1: I love Urban Meyer. Urban's not a pro coach. I

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Speaker 1: remember talking to Urban about this, and Urban said, I

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Speaker 1: spent my sundays watching film because I didn't watch NFL football.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, there is a sensibility in the NFL

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Speaker 1: saban perfect for college dominating personality that's not going to

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Speaker 1: work in pro football. So Bill was always a little

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Speaker 1: cranky and difficult, and you know, distract that. It feels like,

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Speaker 1: and I think a lot of this is I mean,

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Speaker 1: you watch them against TCU and you're like, they don't

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Speaker 1: have enough players, they don't have any speed here, average quarterback,

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Speaker 1: no big speed, no great pass rushers, and I think

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Speaker 1: some of it is to get those kind of guys,

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Speaker 1: you got to turn on the charm and Bill didn't

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Speaker 1: have any interest in that. That's just not who he is.

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Speaker 1: I'm not blaming him. Great legendary coach. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid would love college football. Andy wants to sit

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Speaker 1: down and design plays all day long. Sean Payton could

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Speaker 1: put on a you know he could. He could recruit

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Speaker 1: for a little while, but he wants to sit in

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Speaker 1: a room, get the glasses, look at the play sheet,

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Speaker 1: design plays. He's brilliant at it. Peyton would be a

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Speaker 1: pretty good recruiter. But you know, Kyle Shanahan to me,

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Speaker 1: is not a college guy. Kyle Shanaan and not his dad.

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Speaker 1: Those are pro guys. They're just they're pro guys. Not

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Speaker 1: all TV guys can do radio. Not all radio guys

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Speaker 1: can do TV. It's communication, right, it's storytelling right. Not

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Speaker 1: really so college and pro is different. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Bill works. I will say this, for about a year,

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Speaker 1: the mac Jones Belichick thing worked. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: very interesting. Julian Edelman talking about he's been humbled and

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Speaker 1: he's grown up. The knock on him. Was I remember

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Speaker 1: hearing this about mac Jones is that he was called

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Speaker 1: McEnroe Jones down in Alabama. He had a big temper,

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Speaker 1: you know, he was a dominant high school player, dominant

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Speaker 1: college player, and he didn't have a lot of time

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Speaker 1: for nonsense. And he went to the NFL and he

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Speaker 1: got humbled fast. And I heard remember he did a

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Speaker 1: couple he'd like kick guy. He had that weird sort

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Speaker 1: of Grayson Allen thing from Duke, and I heard there

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Speaker 1: was a little uprising in the Patriots locker room and

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Speaker 1: a couple of the guys went to him and said, hey,

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Speaker 1: stop that stuff, that cheap shot stuff. You know who

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Speaker 1: pays for that? Us lineman guys will do that to us,

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Speaker 1: And so I mean, go back to the kicking stuff.

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Speaker 1: It was like brutal. It's like what do you when

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Speaker 1: you're eight? But yet last night, after the win in

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Speaker 1: which he performed very well, he was very humbled. To Mike.

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Speaker 7: They brought me here to play as a backup, and

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Speaker 7: that's my job. And Brocks the starter of this team,

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Speaker 7: and right now he's dealing with something and I'm just

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Speaker 7: trying to get some wins for him, so it helps

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Speaker 7: us down the line and at the end of the day,

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Speaker 7: that's what it's all about. Like I've been in his position,

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Speaker 7: I'm inn a starter and you want your backup to

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Speaker 7: go in there and win because at the end of

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Speaker 7: the season that could be the hit or miss between

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Speaker 7: a playoff or not.

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Speaker 1: I will say there are times that an athlete wears

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Speaker 1: a suit that I know will not look good on me,

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Speaker 1: and that is one of the instances. I'm not even

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Speaker 1: sure it looked good on him, but anyway, so that

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Speaker 1: that good for him. And I will say Sean McVay

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Speaker 1: had the bye of the day. If you were watching

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Speaker 1: that game in overtime last night, and if you're on

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Speaker 1: the East Coast, you were probably watching the Yankees in

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Speaker 1: the post game. So there was a fourth and one

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Speaker 1: for the Rams in overtime and Sean McVay went he

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Speaker 1: went really, really vanilla on the play. And I hate

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Speaker 1: banging on coaches for play calling. I absolutely hate it.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, McVeigh felt so bad. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what to say. I mean, it's hard to criticize a

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Speaker 1: guy when he says this after the call.

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Speaker 2: It's a bad call. It's a bad call by me.

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Speaker 8: It was a poor decision by me right there. In hindsight,

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Speaker 8: I wish I would have, but no, we were We

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Speaker 8: came in here to try to win the football game.

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Speaker 8: It didn't go down for Scary that wasn't even a thought.

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Speaker 8: But the play selection was very poor. I'm sick right

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Speaker 8: now because I put our players in a spot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's a guy that takes loss is hard

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Speaker 1: for the record. If you look at the Niners schedule

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Speaker 1: the next nine weeks, Rams and Bucks maybe the only

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Speaker 1: playoff teams they play. That was a huge win for

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Speaker 1: San Francisco last night, and I thought they had a

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Speaker 1: couple of calls go against them. I thought there were

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Speaker 1: a couple of bad calls in that game that went

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Speaker 1: in the favor of the Rams. So I mean you

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Speaker 1: start looking at that schedule. I mean it was not

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Speaker 1: daunting to begin with, but outside of the Rams and

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Speaker 1: the Bucks in the next nine weeks, that is a

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Speaker 1: That was a monster win for San Francisco. Monster Rams

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Speaker 1: schedules much tougher our number three on a Friday. Man,

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Speaker 1: he's baseball, He's crazy.