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<v Speaker 1>What is today? Everything's all screwed up. Now it's Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>here on the show, and you don't know what that

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<v Speaker 1>means because everything's all wacky. Last night was Dynamite should

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<v Speaker 1>be tonight, but it wasn't. It was last night Title Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>and it went kind of head dad with the NXT

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<v Speaker 1>on CW. NXT went eight to ten, Dynamite went nine

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<v Speaker 1>to eleven, and we got results of both shows, highs

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<v Speaker 1>and lows on both shows. So we're gonna get as

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<v Speaker 1>much into it as we can coming up here tonight

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, full results are on last night's

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<v Speaker 1>be up Thursday with a full recap as well. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to talk about that in all the news

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend is aw Wrestle Dream and we've just added

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<v Speaker 1>another match, so this point we got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,

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<v Speaker 1>ten main card matches and a Zero Hour match and

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps more to be added for Zero Hour as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is from the Ta Comodome on Saturday, so

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go over the lineup for that, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this coming week we've got an NXT show. They already

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<v Speaker 1>have five matches announced for the show. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff going on involving in NXT and Hurricane Milton, which

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<v Speaker 1>actually is affecting a lot of people, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>wrestlers down there and others as well, So we'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you about that. It's not looking good and we'll give

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<v Speaker 1>the update on everything there. Also, we talked last night

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<v Speaker 1>about Lucasaurus and how he was supposed to have been

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<v Speaker 1>back in the gym Monday. He is not back in

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<v Speaker 1>the gym. And a Christian last night made a comment

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<v Speaker 1>about a serious medical issue involving lucasaurus, which we all

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<v Speaker 1>knew about, but apparently it's much more serious than we knew.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the show, Bryan Alvarez here Wrestling Observer Live

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<v Speaker 1>like simper Viv also Wrestling Observer dot com. Seems like

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<v Speaker 1>every day before we get to the for volity of wrestling,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got to talk about absolute disasters and terrible news.

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<v Speaker 1>And Hurricane Milton is the latest. It is on its

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<v Speaker 1>way going to make landfall apparently in about nine hours,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is likely the first time in one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>years that Tampa's gonna get hit, and I mean they're

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<v Speaker 1>talking like fifteen foot swells. And the mayor yesterday at

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<v Speaker 1>Central said, if you're in an evacuation zone and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't get out, it's not that you might die, you

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<v Speaker 1>will die. And there are a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of remind there weren't a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 1>this happened to, but when Mount Saint Helens was gonna go,

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<v Speaker 1>it was essentially the same thing, like you need to

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<v Speaker 1>get off this mountain and if you don't, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>And there were people that chose to stay and they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make it. So I think like they've got bridges

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<v Speaker 1>closed now, so if you're not out, you're not out.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess we'll see what happens. But all the

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<v Speaker 1>best everybody there. There's a lot of wrestlers that have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hunkered down in Orlando and neighboring areas. I

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<v Speaker 1>know there's a lot of people that couldn't make it

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<v Speaker 1>to the show. Last night, Jeff Jarrett replaced Daddy Magic.

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<v Speaker 1>Daddy Magic was supposed to be doing commentary for the

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<v Speaker 1>show because they were going to tie in. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>the Daniel Garcia announcement that he'd re sign with Daddy

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<v Speaker 1>Magic on commentary, but he couldn't. He didn't leave. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't leave Florida with his family, I guess. And then

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<v Speaker 1>Britt Baker is in Orlando, but it wasn't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>she was just legitimately sick. So they told that story

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<v Speaker 1>on the air. But all of the NXT wrestlers they

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<v Speaker 1>can't fly back from Saint Louis. They're all stranded in

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Louis for the foreseeable future. So man, not good,

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<v Speaker 1>not good at all. All the best everybody out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so many people, excuse me, and so many wrestlers

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<v Speaker 3>live in that area. We were in a text before

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<v Speaker 3>the last hurricane kind of talking about how it used

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<v Speaker 3>to be so many wrestlers were living in the path

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<v Speaker 3>of where that hurricane went, because it looked like he

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<v Speaker 3>could be up as far as Pensacola first and then

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<v Speaker 3>down through Tampa and they kind of pretty much avoided it,

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<v Speaker 3>but talked about how a lot of wrestlers now live

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<v Speaker 3>Inland because of the Performance Center and because of wanting

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<v Speaker 3>to be closer to Orlando or being closer to Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just this is going right over Tampa to Orlando

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<v Speaker 3>and then possibly even up as far as Jacksonville, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's just going to be catastrophic what it looks like.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's just all the best to everybody, all the

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<v Speaker 3>best to everybody still recovering from the last hurricane.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we got it so yesterday and observer Radio

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<v Speaker 1>Dave was asking what the update was on Lucasaurus. Lucasaurus

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<v Speaker 1>had he collapsed in his house? Trying to remember all

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<v Speaker 1>the details. He collapsed in his house a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>fridays ago, and I think it was collapsed lungs, ended

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<v Speaker 1>up in the hospital, was on oxygen. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>was in really rough shape. And then I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was last weekend. The last word I got was that

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<v Speaker 1>he was doing a lot better and they were hopeful

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<v Speaker 1>that he was going to be in the gym this

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<v Speaker 1>past Monday. I think it was his past Monday. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the latest that I got, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>assumed yesterday that he was probably back in the gym again,

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<v Speaker 1>And as it turns out, he is not back in

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<v Speaker 1>the gym, and he will not be back in the

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<v Speaker 1>gym for a while, and he's not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>back wrestling, probably for a while and it's hopefully he

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<v Speaker 1>will be back wrestling in a while. So apparently there

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<v Speaker 1>were complications and I guess he got maybe a flu

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, and I guess he also he

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<v Speaker 1>had some issue and I guess they don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>it is, but maybe he had sleep apne or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So his immune system, I guess was compromised.

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<v Speaker 1>So he ends up getting this flu and bad oxygen

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<v Speaker 1>uptake as a result of whatever else turned into pneumonia.

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<v Speaker 1>And apparently he is in he is at higher risk

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<v Speaker 1>for a relapse, is what I was told. And the

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<v Speaker 1>big concern is that after all of this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they they've been running test after test after test, and

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<v Speaker 1>apparently there may be permanent damage. They found calcification in

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<v Speaker 1>a heart valve and his body is not producing iron,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he's got like a whole bunch of tests

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<v Speaker 1>that he apparently has to take. And I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's bad. So it's bad enough that he still I

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<v Speaker 1>guess has to you know, he's out of the hospital apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>but he still has to do oxygen because just like

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<v Speaker 1>things at home, it's hard to breathe, and he's got

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<v Speaker 1>to go to specialists and likes it's a potential. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say it's a career ending issue,

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<v Speaker 1>but like it could be a career ending issue. So

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<v Speaker 1>all the best. De Lucasaurus. It's one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you gotta be careful because it happens. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>pro wrestler, great shape, you know, was doing well and

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<v Speaker 1>then boom.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like it could be life changing, you know, depending

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<v Speaker 3>on what the scarring is with his lungs and how

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<v Speaker 3>much he's able to build them back up. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean think about the fact that, again I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what the guy does in his personal life, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he was healthy enough and had enough win

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<v Speaker 3>to wrestle professional wrestling matches, and he got to the

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<v Speaker 3>point where probably happened relatively quickly too. You know, the

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<v Speaker 3>symptoms were probably there for a while, but then to

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<v Speaker 3>be stricken down where you are your lungs aren't functioning,

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<v Speaker 3>and to the point where now this is there's complications.

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<v Speaker 3>This is very scary. So yeah, hopefully he's able to

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<v Speaker 3>come back and you know, forget about wrestling, but just

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<v Speaker 3>be able to get back into a full healthy, you

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<v Speaker 3>know man for his family, My god.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, all the best to uh Lucisaurus kill switch.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully he uh gets healthy, that's the main thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>something like this happens. Wrestling's wrestling, but you got to

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<v Speaker 1>get healthy and hopefully they figure out what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>and get it worked on and and he ends up healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>so all the best to him. So then, uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if this is a just a bizarre story.

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<v Speaker 1>There was reportedly an incident at the hotel where several

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<v Speaker 1>NXT talent were staying on Tuesday night.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a hell of a transition to this story.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean I just heard about it. A man

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<v Speaker 1>was reportedly ejected from the hotel twice for allegedly attempting

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<v Speaker 1>to photograph NXT talent, specifically the feat of female performers

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<v Speaker 1>as they walked through the building. Yeah, they're all stuck

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<v Speaker 1>there in this hotel. They can't leave, and uh there's

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<v Speaker 1>this guy taking pictures of everybody's feet. So he got

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<v Speaker 1>tossed out twice, and uh what next?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. What do you follow that with?

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<v Speaker 1>Taz Is recovering from surgery. That's actually good news this

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<v Speaker 1>poor guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's move up there, taz Is Is I think tomorrow

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<v Speaker 3>is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow. He's got a birthday coming. Everyone's birthday is right

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<v Speaker 1>around this time. Seawan's birthday is tonight, Vinnie's birthday is tomorrow. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>think Shawn's birthday was yesterday. Vinnie's birthday is tomorrow. Think

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<v Speaker 1>about Tony Kahn's birthday is tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>In February, when it's cold and you're snowed in, what

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<v Speaker 3>is there to do?

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<v Speaker 1>And then it as he turns fifty seven on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>But like all I heard was he's fifty seven. He

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<v Speaker 1>walks around like he's ninety seven, and he's got airports

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<v Speaker 1>he's got to go through and arenas he's got to

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<v Speaker 1>go through, and you know, apparently like his wife. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know how Hook is actually Guys, if I say

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<v Speaker 1>that and you think you don't know how Hook is,

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<v Speaker 1>you actually do because if you ever watch AW, that

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<v Speaker 1>is a great example. Hook and Moxley are the two

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<v Speaker 1>examples where what you see is what you get. That's

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<v Speaker 1>who these guys are. And Hook being Hook, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>was always telling his dad, like, just fix your knee, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>So apparently he went in and fixed his knee and

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<v Speaker 1>full knee replacement surgery and hopefully for his birthday, for

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<v Speaker 1>his fifty seventh birthday, I hope he will walk around

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<v Speaker 1>like he's fifty seven and not ninety seven. So all

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<v Speaker 1>the best of Tazz as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And well he won't be able to do that on

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<v Speaker 3>his fifty seventh birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>Well probably not on the actual birthday, but no, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll he'll get there. And then I don't have an

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<v Speaker 1>update on Britt Baker except she was sick, like sick

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<v Speaker 1>enough that they wouldn't let her get on the airplane.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was told it was not something like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's on death's door or anything, but just like some

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<v Speaker 1>flew or whatever and just sick as a dog. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>best wishes her as well, and we'll try to get

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<v Speaker 1>in some better news after the break, right, maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>can talk about javaon Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike SIMPERVV on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Here in the show, Brian Alvarez here, Wrestling Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh, I'll say, let me adjust in my chair. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say this all right, Randy, and Javon wasn't a disaster, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a disaster. It was exactly what I thought

0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:48.960
<v Speaker 1>they were gonna do, Like exactly, Randy dominates the match,

0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Javon gets a comeback, he literally got a near fall,

0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:59.200
<v Speaker 1>and then they went for the big wacky springboard into

0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:03.080
<v Speaker 1>the r KO finish. They actually messed it up. But

0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:06.159
<v Speaker 1>it's a new Randy Orton. He's a father, kids are

0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:09.119
<v Speaker 1>in the crowd, and he was like, eh, lifted the

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<v Speaker 1>guy up, gave him the RKO, laughed at how stupid

0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.520
<v Speaker 1>it looked, and it was over and that was it.

0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.919
<v Speaker 3>So Javon won't be getting fired like Ken Kennedy U.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy afterwards or whatever. And I mean, here's the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a thing. Well that's another thing. But I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say this. Okay, if you think that this greatly helped

0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and elevated Javon Evans, let's talk money. I got a

0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:43.240
<v Speaker 1>lot of can sellia, all right, I got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of cancellia. Did it kill him?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I gonna hear the same crap I hear after

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<v Speaker 1>every Javon wrap. He's only twenty, He'll be fine. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I will hear the same thing. But you know what

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<v Speaker 1>actually kind of made me mad? What's okay. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a booking idea which they didn't do because.

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<v Speaker 3>No one listens to you. We've established that no.

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<v Speaker 1>But listen to this. I thought, okay, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>give Javon the rub. I know they think that the

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<v Speaker 1>rub is he has a enough competitive match, he gets

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<v Speaker 1>a near fall and then he gets RKO to death

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<v Speaker 1>and pinned. Okay, I think that, you know, okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>their usual. But you know what really get the guy

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<v Speaker 1>over is if they do a match for a while

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<v Speaker 1>and listen, I said, Gallus, it made people met. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care who it is, Axiom and Nathan frad whoever.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody runs in attacks both guys and then we get

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<v Speaker 1>a tag match where Randy teams with Javon Evans and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Randy hits an r KAO out of nowhere. This

0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.080
<v Speaker 1>bloke stumbles to a feet and Javon does a springboard

0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:56.600
<v Speaker 1>RKAO out of nowhere and Javon pins the guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>promise you, I promise you. That would have done far

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<v Speaker 1>more to get Javon over than what they did. And

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<v Speaker 1>the irony is this. Earlier on on the same show,

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<v Speaker 1>they had two big stars from the main roster, the

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<v Speaker 1>women's tag team champions Bianca bell Air and Jade Cardial

0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:26.399
<v Speaker 1>and they teamed her with Kolanie Jordan. They had a

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<v Speaker 1>six person match. The match was actually really good, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Bianca and Jade hit a big move and they

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<v Speaker 1>go bob am. Kilanie goes up top hits her spring

0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.840
<v Speaker 1>split legged moon salt and Klannie gets the pit and

0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:47.040
<v Speaker 1>the freaking place went nuts and Kilanie celebrates with Biank

0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:52.800
<v Speaker 1>and Jade. They're all on the same level. I was like, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how you do it. They literally did it on

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<v Speaker 1>the same show with somebody else. It's like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I quit. Who cares. He'll he'll be on the main

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<v Speaker 1>roster by forty you know, he'll get his run, He'll

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<v Speaker 1>all be great and everything like that. God whatever, who cares.

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<v Speaker 3>They would have did the same sort of thing. You'd

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<v Speaker 3>be complaining they did the same.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I would not. You think I'm gonna complain about

0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:26.520
<v Speaker 1>them doing my idea twice. No, I feel like finally.

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<v Speaker 3>You would complain. Fact, think did it? That's so you'd

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<v Speaker 3>be fine with you know what else.

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<v Speaker 1>K Klan's only twenty five. She'd have been fine, but

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<v Speaker 1>you did it right with her? Do we have to

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<v Speaker 1>wait till this blokes twenty five years old? Do we

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<v Speaker 1>have to wait till I watch this guy in the

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<v Speaker 1>CW for five years before we pull the trigger on him?

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<v Speaker 1>Five years.

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<v Speaker 3>More of a stamp of approval in their eyes? Did

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<v Speaker 3>will be? You know what you're turning into. You're turning

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<v Speaker 3>into the guy who's still complaining about Carter signing there

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<v Speaker 3>for that four year deal. It's gonna kill his career

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<v Speaker 3>because he's signing there.

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<v Speaker 1>I never complained about Ben Carter signing.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people did I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Does anybody even know you want to complain about what

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else complain about? That's fine, but I never did.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just bringing it up because that's the person that

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<v Speaker 3>you sound like. Okay, like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care if you think I sound like someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually didn't say that.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you didn't. I'm finally, and I'm not accusing

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<v Speaker 3>you of saying that so you can stamp your feet

0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:29.560
<v Speaker 3>over there. I'm just saying you're right. They're not doing

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<v Speaker 3>everything I think to make Javon Evans as big of

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<v Speaker 3>a star as they should. I just it's amazing how

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<v Speaker 3>this one sticks in your craw to the point where

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<v Speaker 3>you know, okay, fine, he'll make it by forty, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>come on.

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<v Speaker 1>Please, well you know what, I'll just say this. When

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<v Speaker 1>he makes it before forty, let me know. I'll wait, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll wait.

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<v Speaker 3>Will you still be He's gonna be thirty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll go, it's twenty Hold on a second, he's twenty now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's twenty twenty four, so this will be twenty forty four. Okay,

0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:08.159
<v Speaker 1>by twenty forty four, when you're forty, you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>like early in life, people are gonna be living like

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred twenty. So he'll probably be thirty nine years old,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll have the same bloke telling me, eh, he's

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<v Speaker 1>only thirty nine. He'll still be fine. Everything is good, man.

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<v Speaker 3>He'll still be on NXT. He'll be the Keenan Thompson

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<v Speaker 3>like he is on Saturday Night Live of MXT. At

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<v Speaker 3>that point, it'll be like him and Sean will be

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<v Speaker 3>looking both ways in a rocking chair, going back and forth,

0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:34.720
<v Speaker 3>and I guess see him. Punk will be down there

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<v Speaker 3>taking over for Sean, and Javon can still be there, like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just if he can get one more chance,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he'll still be there with him probably fell and.

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<v Speaker 1>Emily, Now I started off with a negative, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a fair man. And let me tell you something. My

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<v Speaker 1>favorite thing in NXT in months, and my favorite thing

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<v Speaker 1>on either show last night was this frickin' Obafemi Tony

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<v Speaker 1>D match. Oh my god, dude. It was like it

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<v Speaker 1>was everything coming together. Like if you don't watch NXT

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<v Speaker 1>and you watch the match, it'll be kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, yeah, that was pretty cool, good good heat.

0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:21.399
<v Speaker 1>It was like a good match or whatever. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta follow this from the very beginning, like you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta watch. You gotta like follow what they've done with

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<v Speaker 1>Oba Femi, Like this guy is just like he's unbeatable.

0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:35.480
<v Speaker 1>He's unbeatable, and he's gigantic, and he just kills everybody

0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and nobody stands a chance. And then they've got Tony D.

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<v Speaker 1>And they did this storyline where Tony D faced Oba

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<v Speaker 1>Femi and Oba broke him. He broke Tony D, just

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<v Speaker 1>broke his spirit and Tony D like he just gave

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<v Speaker 1>up and he walked out and like he was all miserable,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're trying to find out what's wrong with Tony

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<v Speaker 1>D and does he want to rematch and then Tony

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:03.000
<v Speaker 1>finally had missed this big murderous gangster babyface finally admits,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm scared. I can't beat this guy.

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:10.199
<v Speaker 1>And the family's like, why are you talking like this?

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:14.480
<v Speaker 1>And it ends up with Rizzo. They're doing like the

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Rocky storyline, and Rizzo's just like, dude, I know you

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 1>really want this. I know you want to do this.

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:23.359
<v Speaker 1>We'll train you, and she talks him into training again,

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 1>and it was really clever because like the way they're

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:27.920
<v Speaker 1>doing the storyline, you're thinking, well, he has to beat

0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:31.400
<v Speaker 1>oba Femi, but then it's like, dude, no one's beating

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:34.639
<v Speaker 1>oba Femi. This guy's unstoppable. And then they did a

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:37.240
<v Speaker 1>thing like a week ago where Tony is, you know,

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:39.880
<v Speaker 1>they're kind of going, you know what, maybe you're gonna win,

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 1>but even if you don't win, man, brother, you gave

0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:44.480
<v Speaker 1>it your all. And as soon as they said that,

0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought, okay, like this is gonna be a cool

0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 1>storyline and he's gonna go on. He's not gonna beat

0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 1>oba Femi. So they train him and everything like that,

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 1>and they're doing this match and the match is like fine,

0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:55.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's okay, there's decent heat or whatever. But

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 1>then they do a spot where they both tumble outside.

0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 1>It's all from memory, by the way, I don't even know.

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:03.239
<v Speaker 1>They all tumble outside and the families they made a

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:06.240
<v Speaker 1>wall and they're staring down Oba Femi and Oba Femi's

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:08.919
<v Speaker 1>just laughing at him, and he's laughing at Tony and

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 1>he shoves Stacks and Luca Crucofino and in taking a bump,

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 1>they knock down Rizzo and Tony's stirring to his feet

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden he sees Oba and he

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:23.159
<v Speaker 1>sees Rizzo and man, it's on like nick bone and

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 1>he just fires up and he makes the best baby

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:28.640
<v Speaker 1>face comeback. And this dude's throwing Oba around and they're

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 1>doing all these great near falls and then like his

0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:34.199
<v Speaker 1>big move is a spinebuster, and they go outside and

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Oba's getting his choke slam through the announced table, but

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:38.639
<v Speaker 1>Tony picks him up and bom, he puts him to

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 1>then oun table with the spinebuster plays going nuts. He

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:44.880
<v Speaker 1>throws him in the ring. He hits another spinebuster. It's like, man,

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>it's now or never, brother, you at you're finished to

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:49.800
<v Speaker 1>a table and in the ring and he covers one two.

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Oba kicks out and it's like, ah, man, this is great,

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:55.119
<v Speaker 1>but like he ain't beating this guy, and Oba just

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 1>does the zo He doesn't even just kick out, he

0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:59.400
<v Speaker 1>kicks out and he does a zombie sit up. As

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I go, well it was good, Walt lasted and he

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:04.800
<v Speaker 1>freaking grabs Tony by the throat and he goes for

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 1>his big choke slam and Tony Sunset flips down his

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:12.879
<v Speaker 1>back jackknife cradle one two three. This building blew up,

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:15.879
<v Speaker 1>and Tony's like he does the big like it's not

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>like a pro wrestling thing. He's like, God, he just

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:21.400
<v Speaker 1>is so excited that he got this guy. Dude, this

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:27.160
<v Speaker 1>was awesome, absolutely freaking great, the best thing I've seen

0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>in NXT in months. God, it was so good. But

0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:32.439
<v Speaker 1>you have to watch the watch. You have to dedicate

0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:34.200
<v Speaker 1>yourself to the whole thing for to be as great

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<v Speaker 1>the rest. But man, this is great, absolutely great. I

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's fighting words. Mike.

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<v Speaker 3>You wouldn't get within ten feet to me, buddy, that's

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. I couldn't beat you up unless I got close.

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<v Speaker 3>You couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't just go.

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<v Speaker 3>But I know, but I know what I could do

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<v Speaker 3>And I tell you what, there's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of ways I'm stupid about Spokane.

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<v Speaker 3>What else?

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<v Speaker 1>Hit me with it?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, believe me, you'll be hit with it. Tony d

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was going to be so goofy at

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what, with how the thing paid off,

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<v Speaker 2>You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 1>In the show, Brian Alvarez here Wrestling Observer Live like

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<v Speaker 1>simper vv also Wrestling Observer dot Com down to Earth

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<v Speaker 1>again so raw this past Monday night? Should we talk ratings?

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone care? Anyway? They took out that third hour and

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<v Speaker 1>the show did fine. It didn't do like a a

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<v Speaker 1>gigantic number anything before. It is slightly up one point

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<v Speaker 1>five to five million viewers and a point for seven,

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<v Speaker 1>very similar to last week. But as we also had

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<v Speaker 1>a Kansas City chiefs versus New Orleans Saint match with

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor swift so natural fifteen point eight million and a

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<v Speaker 1>four point three four rating, and also a New York

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<v Speaker 1>Yankees versus can't see the Royals playoff game three point

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<v Speaker 1>four eight million and a point eight three. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. See him, well, there's a missing period here,

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<v Speaker 1>it says to see him Punk interviewed at one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seventy one million viewers. I think that's one point

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<v Speaker 1>seventy one. But that was the high point of the

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<v Speaker 1>show when he said he's going home and uh, this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>what a what a what a schedule? He's got? How

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<v Speaker 1>many matches he had this year? Three I'm not kidding,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you. Yeah, the Royal rumble and then

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<v Speaker 1>the Drew match and then another Drew match. Was hurt

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<v Speaker 1>well he was hurt well, I know, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>on that whole time.

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<v Speaker 3>But let's be honest in this day and age in

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<v Speaker 3>professional wrestling, in both companies, especially AW, but in both companies,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, how many people are sitting there and getting

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<v Speaker 3>paid and they're not working, and they are not injured,

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<v Speaker 3>They're just sitting there. And that the one thing about

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<v Speaker 3>it is, you know, artistically, it drives you nuts. You

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<v Speaker 3>do lose time. You know, every day you get another

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<v Speaker 3>day older, and you want opportunities, you want to do things.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, in another way, if you live frugally enough,

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<v Speaker 3>you take some of that money and sock it away

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<v Speaker 3>and just take advantage of these times that you can

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<v Speaker 3>have with your family or cultivating other things in your

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<v Speaker 3>life that may not have to do with wrestling that

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<v Speaker 3>you may be able to branch off to.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, anything else from the two shows last night?

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<v Speaker 1>A quick look here, we talked about all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're setting up.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, it doesn't say much about aew since we didn't

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<v Speaker 3>talk about them at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the only thing, Well, I'll get to that

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<v Speaker 1>in a minute. Bruh, you want me to just skip

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth like a mission and.

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<v Speaker 3>From both shows? Yeah, do we have anything else to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get to it. Calm down there, Theory, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>do we have anything else to talk about from these

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<v Speaker 1>two shows? The answer is yes, So I'm talking about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Rhetorical question.

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<v Speaker 1>Axiom and Nathan and Frasier beat Theory and Grayson Waller.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody broke up, but they had another tease for Theory

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<v Speaker 1>and Grayson Waller breaking up. Could somebody do me a

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<v Speaker 1>favor and go back and find out when they began

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<v Speaker 1>teasing these men were gonna break up. Was it WrestleMania

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<v Speaker 1>or was it before that? I think maybe they'd been

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<v Speaker 1>teasing and we thought it was gonna happen at WrestleMania.

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<v Speaker 1>When did they start teasing the breakup of Austin Theory

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<v Speaker 1>and Grayson Waller. It has to have been like six

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<v Speaker 1>months now, that's ridiculous. We're still waiting for this breakup.

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<v Speaker 1>So that happened then?

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<v Speaker 3>Is anybody? But the thing is maybe they're right. Does

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<v Speaker 3>anybody care?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? What did it be done? I'm sick of it?

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<v Speaker 3>What's okay? What's is this far worse for you than

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on with Kofe and Xavier and them right

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<v Speaker 3>in that No.

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<v Speaker 1>That's only been like three months. Crayson and Austin Theory

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<v Speaker 1>have been at least triple that at least.

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<v Speaker 3>I just at some point they're gonna have that match,

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<v Speaker 3>and if Biggie doesn't come out and just scare them

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<v Speaker 3>both down and look disappointed like the brother of the

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<v Speaker 3>guy that was trying to give people up in the

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<v Speaker 3>Godfather and the Senate hearings and he just had they

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<v Speaker 3>brought in the brother from Sicily to stare him down,

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<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden he forgot about everything. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what Biggie needs to do now.

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<v Speaker 1>This Ava character in storyline is completely incompetent. So next

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<v Speaker 1>week we have a number one contenders match Wes Lee

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<v Speaker 1>versus Ethan Page because they both want to shout at

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<v Speaker 1>the title. And then she adds because of his performance tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm adding Javon Evans. See how about Obafemi who had

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<v Speaker 1>a significantly significantly more impressive performance who also lost, but

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>who's basically undefeated otherwise, unlike Javon.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe turned an ankle.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That was stupid. And then we've got Stephanie Vakierre and

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<v Speaker 1>Ren Sinclair. Tony D celebrates his title win. Nikita Lyons

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<v Speaker 1>has return. She'll face Lola Ice. She returned in a

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<v Speaker 1>backstage interview segment with Lola. That's her big return and

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<v Speaker 1>that's and she's been out like nine months.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be a lot of bad kicks and punches

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<v Speaker 3>in that match.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro and the Halloween Havoc Wheel returns. Spin the Wheel

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<v Speaker 1>make the deal a gimmick wheel. It's so gimmicked it

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<v Speaker 1>makes it even better. It's like you spin it, it

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<v Speaker 1>goes really fast and lands on.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, you know what? When is how long is

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Speaker 3>Gigi Dolan out for? Is it a long period of time?

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<v Speaker 3>No clue, because that would be a perfect time to

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<v Speaker 3>bring her back.

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<v Speaker 1>So then we add the NXT show or the Dynamite

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<v Speaker 1>Show and.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there anything to talk about on this show?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there was a totally, absolutely bizarre angle where

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<v Speaker 1>Darby calls out rody King. He asks Brody King to

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<v Speaker 1>attack him. Brody King refuses, so Darby slaps him across

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<v Speaker 1>the face. So then Brody hits him and then Darby

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<v Speaker 1>assaults him with a boulder. And I looked it up,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, and it is a boulder ten point one.

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>It was inches in diameter. That was for sure a boulder.

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<v Speaker 3>People think about boulders, they think about the flintstones.

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't care what they think about folks.

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<v Speaker 3>Its hand. It was the same rock he beat on

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<v Speaker 3>the cars with last week.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll still put it this way. It was as big

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 1>as Mike's brain. So how big was that rock?

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<v Speaker 3>Mike?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you it was a boulder. But it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter what he hit him with. The fact is the

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<v Speaker 1>baby Face came out darre the heel to just attack him.

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 1>The heel goes, I'm not gonna attack you, brother, So

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<v Speaker 1>the Babyface slaps him. Well, now the Heel retaliates, and

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<v Speaker 1>so because he retaliated, the baby Face starts hitting him

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<v Speaker 1>with a freaking rock. That was weird, dude, Well that

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 1>was weird.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, a lot of emotion on this show, because

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 3>in ten minutes we had three interviews. That was the

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:12.239
<v Speaker 3>first ten minutes of the show, was three interviews, two

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<v Speaker 3>of which were about things from the past and trying

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<v Speaker 3>to save someone by putting them in a dark place

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 3>and then possibly killing them or maiming them. Because John

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<v Speaker 3>Moxley had a cold open to the show with the

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<v Speaker 3>music in theme lighting talking about how he's going to

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 3>drag Brian Danielson into this dark place so he can

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 3>eventually bring out the best him in so he can

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:40.240
<v Speaker 3>kill him and let him go. And that's what brody

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 3>King and Darby were basically talking about here too, or

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 3>Darby and brody Key were talking about here too. So

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of emotion on this show, a lot of

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:53.359
<v Speaker 3>there's always a lot of darkness. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>fathers with obviously with Christian we have Chris Jericho invoking

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 3>Jay Brisco, so Mark and cut a promo serious about

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<v Speaker 3>their match, and I'm looking forward to their match, to

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<v Speaker 3>be honest, two old pros going at it. I look

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<v Speaker 3>forward to seeing what they're going to do. But how

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<v Speaker 3>they build up to a lot of this stuff, there

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<v Speaker 3>is a dark element that's really over a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 1>We had an angle where Don Callous traded Rouche for

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<v Speaker 1>Lance Archer, So Jake the Snake Roberts is the new

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<v Speaker 1>head of La Faccion in Gobernables?

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<v Speaker 3>Is is that a Mexico thing? Does Rooshti work triple

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<v Speaker 3>A where Jake could go down and Callous like, seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because I don't think he's going back.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of heat.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well that's the only way that that would even

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<v Speaker 3>think about making sense to me. Jake Robert shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>on TV period point.

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<v Speaker 1>Playing Well the reason The reason is well, they had

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<v Speaker 1>to do something and rushe obviously wanted to be with

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.920
<v Speaker 1>LFI and not the Callus family would be my guess.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know they had to do something. So

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<v Speaker 1>Archer's not doing anything with Jake, you know, callous. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure wants a big killer. They don't do nothing with

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<v Speaker 1>Lance Archer, so it's all fine, it's just silly. We

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<v Speaker 1>had Hologram and Commander, which was what I've been asking for.

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Give me one random lucha match on the show every week.

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:16.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't care who's in it, I don't care what

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>it's about, just flip and fly fans. This was the

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<v Speaker 1>most heated thing on the show was this match. By

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<v Speaker 1>the end, they loved it. And we had Daniel Garcia

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 1>announcing that he's back. He's back. He re signed and

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 1>announced it in front of seventeen hundred people and Spokanne

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:37.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't get the reaction it might have gotten Buffalo a

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 1>larger crowd. But he's back. And then we had it Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>Willow Say and Jamie and nyla number one contenders match

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 1>because Britt was gone and I'll tell you what's notable here.

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<v Speaker 1>So ends up with Willow winning and then they go

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<v Speaker 1>up on the stage and they have a stare down

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Mariah and Willow, and Mariah tries to slap her, but

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<v Speaker 1>Willow grabs her wrist to stop the slap and freakin

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<v Speaker 1>Mariah magoes bah and she headbutted Willow so hard right

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<v Speaker 1>in the face, and she immediately grabs her own head

0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:23.280
<v Speaker 1>and Willow grabs her own face. She starts streaming blood.

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<v Speaker 1>They do a thing backstage and like Willow's all cut

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 1>right here, like she here tooth went through her lip

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. I was like, dude, what are we doing?

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:33.919
<v Speaker 1>What are we doing? You just head butted her right

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<v Speaker 1>in the freaking mouth as hard as you could. So anyway,

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>she got her revenge later by pouncing Mariah through the wall.

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<v Speaker 3>Look that was But the thing is she didn't and

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 3>that was kind of weird. And they do this too often.

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:52.720
<v Speaker 3>Willow comes in as Mariah's cutting the interview and gives

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 3>her a pounce and knocks her over. And then Willow,

0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:57.919
<v Speaker 3>instead of jumping on her, this woman that just head

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 3>butted her in the face, she starts to cut promo. Okay, fine,

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:04.239
<v Speaker 3>just tell her yell at her real quick, get out

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:08.440
<v Speaker 3>of there. It's this longer. It wasn't forever, but it

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:11.080
<v Speaker 3>was too long of a promo as Mariah is just

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:13.880
<v Speaker 3>laying there on the ground. And then they cut to

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 3>Mariah and it's even longer of her just laying there

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:20.960
<v Speaker 3>on the ground. It was just How does that make

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 3>any real sense at all to me? It just doesn't.

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Mercedes meet Emmy Soakrara, Emmi Sockra did not win the

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>titles in this match. Here and then we had the

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:34.439
<v Speaker 1>best thing on the show by Miles, which was the

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 1>interview with Will Ospray and Don Callous. I mean, it

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:41.799
<v Speaker 1>was awesome. They finally have broken Ospray away from the

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Callus family and Don admitted that he sent out Ta

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Keshta to attack Ospray last week. Osprey cuts a promo

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:52.759
<v Speaker 1>on him, ends up getting attacked by Takeshta. They end

0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:54.719
<v Speaker 1>up having Don actually took a bump. That's the most

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:58.959
<v Speaker 1>newsworthy thing. And then finally Kyle comes out and Don

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:02.960
<v Speaker 1>wants him to screwge Osprey. He won't do it. Takeshna

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>goes back after Osprey, Ricochet comes down to set up

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 1>their three way. I mean, you gotta watch the whole segment,

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 1>but it was great. This was great, tons of heat

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:14.839
<v Speaker 1>and by far the best thing on the show.

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 3>Can somebody get some sort of message to Callous from me?

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 3>And you can mix it up in any type of

0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 3>way so it doesn't have to be for me, But

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 3>I can't be the only one who looks at the

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 3>screwdriver and goes, this is so stupid. This has been

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 3>stupid every time they've used it, unless it's a metaphor

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 3>for something, and if that's the case, explain it. But like, otherwise,

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 3>unless you're going to jam it in people's eyes, like,

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:44.080
<v Speaker 3>why are you using this as a weapon of destruction?

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 3>It was like Claudio last night using the tiny hammer

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 3>to hammer Wheeler da in the ribs. It didn't. It

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:56.480
<v Speaker 3>doesn't come across to me with the visual that you

0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 3>want it to at all, like at all, it looks

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 3>it looks kind of corny, to be honest. So uh.

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Then the main event was Danielson and Wheeler versus Claudio

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 1>and Pack and uh man, this Brian is just a wreck.

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:15.960
<v Speaker 1>It's just a wreck. And the story is the Heels

0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:17.839
<v Speaker 1>come out. They try to hit a bunch of big

0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:20.360
<v Speaker 1>finishes on Brian, but he kicks out everything, puts the

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Labell lock on Pock for the submission, dives on Moxley.

0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:27.320
<v Speaker 1>They have a big brawl the heels, they kill poor Wheeler.

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Brian comes back out to do yes chance over Wheeler's corpse,

0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 1>and the thing is, guys, I'm not saying he's never

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:40.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna wrestle again. But this might have been the last

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:44.240
<v Speaker 1>television match ever in the career of Brian Danielson because

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:46.799
<v Speaker 1>if he does come back, it should only be on

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:49.480
<v Speaker 1>pay per view. So this might have been the last

0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:52.880
<v Speaker 1>television match in the career of Brian Danielson. And like

0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 1>it was fine, but it was just a small crowd.

0:44:57.280 --> 0:45:00.799
<v Speaker 1>It was just sad watching this year. Ship here two,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know man back in a moment Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike Simper Vivi on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Back here on the show, I made it, Wrestling Observer Live. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Wrestling Observer Live. No Lance Storm show today. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>him on Observer Live. But we do have a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff coming up over the next few days. Tonights

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<v Speaker 1>to Brian and Vinnie and Granny and Craig Show celebrating

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<v Speaker 1>Sean and Vinnie's birthdays, as well as watching an old

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<v Speaker 1>nw A Mid South and talking to Grain. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be an eight thirty Pacific eleven thirty Eastern gotta

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:07.320
<v Speaker 1>start a half hour late here today. Uh, I forgot

0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 1>what day it was. I have to uh teach jiu jitsu,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll be back for eight thirty instead of eight.

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<v Speaker 1>And then uh tomorrow, now you know, Mike, you're on

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:20.560
<v Speaker 1>your own. I have to chaperone a field trip. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go see cat kid Comic Club apparently in Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully it's good, not some dumb play and kid comic club. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>get with the get with the program. Brother, don't be old,

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<v Speaker 1>So that'll be uh, that'll be Mike tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't want to be young.

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<v Speaker 1>And also Brian and Vinie tomorrow talking a W A NXT.

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