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Speaker 1: What is today? Everything's all screwed up. Now it's Wednesday
Speaker 1: here on the show, and you don't know what that
Speaker 1: means because everything's all wacky. Last night was Dynamite should
Speaker 1: be tonight, but it wasn't. It was last night Title Tuesday,
Speaker 1: and it went kind of head dad with the NXT
Speaker 1: on CW. NXT went eight to ten, Dynamite went nine
Speaker 1: to eleven, and we got results of both shows, highs
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Speaker 1: and then you know, full results are on last night's
Speaker 1: Wrestling Observer Radio with Dave and Vinie, and I will
Speaker 1: be up Thursday with a full recap as well. Well,
Speaker 1: we got to talk about that in all the news
Speaker 1: this weekend is aw Wrestle Dream and we've just added
Speaker 1: another match, so this point we got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
Speaker 1: ten main card matches and a Zero Hour match and
Speaker 1: perhaps more to be added for Zero Hour as well.
Speaker 1: But this is from the Ta Comodome on Saturday, so
Speaker 1: we'll go over the lineup for that, and then you know,
Speaker 1: this coming week we've got an NXT show. They already
Speaker 1: have five matches announced for the show. A lot of
Speaker 1: stuff going on involving in NXT and Hurricane Milton, which
Speaker 1: actually is affecting a lot of people, a lot of
Speaker 1: wrestlers down there and others as well, So we'll tell
Speaker 1: you about that. It's not looking good and we'll give
Speaker 1: the update on everything there. Also, we talked last night
Speaker 1: about Lucasaurus and how he was supposed to have been
Speaker 1: back in the gym Monday. He is not back in
Speaker 1: the gym. And a Christian last night made a comment
Speaker 1: about a serious medical issue involving lucasaurus, which we all
Speaker 1: knew about, but apparently it's much more serious than we knew.
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Speaker 1: Back in the show, Bryan Alvarez here Wrestling Observer Live
Speaker 1: like simper Viv also Wrestling Observer dot com. Seems like
Speaker 1: every day before we get to the for volity of wrestling,
Speaker 1: we've got to talk about absolute disasters and terrible news.
Speaker 1: And Hurricane Milton is the latest. It is on its
Speaker 1: way going to make landfall apparently in about nine hours,
Speaker 1: and this is likely the first time in one hundred
Speaker 1: years that Tampa's gonna get hit, and I mean they're
Speaker 1: talking like fifteen foot swells. And the mayor yesterday at
Speaker 1: Central said, if you're in an evacuation zone and you
Speaker 1: don't get out, it's not that you might die, you
Speaker 1: will die. And there are a lot of people that
Speaker 1: kind of remind there weren't a lot of people that
Speaker 1: this happened to, but when Mount Saint Helens was gonna go,
Speaker 1: it was essentially the same thing, like you need to
Speaker 1: get off this mountain and if you don't, that's it.
Speaker 1: And there were people that chose to stay and they
Speaker 1: didn't make it. So I think like they've got bridges
Speaker 1: closed now, so if you're not out, you're not out.
Speaker 1: So I guess we'll see what happens. But all the
Speaker 1: best everybody there. There's a lot of wrestlers that have,
Speaker 1: you know, hunkered down in Orlando and neighboring areas. I
Speaker 1: know there's a lot of people that couldn't make it
Speaker 1: to the show. Last night, Jeff Jarrett replaced Daddy Magic.
Speaker 1: Daddy Magic was supposed to be doing commentary for the
Speaker 1: show because they were going to tie in. I guess
Speaker 1: the Daniel Garcia announcement that he'd re sign with Daddy
Speaker 1: Magic on commentary, but he couldn't. He didn't leave. He
Speaker 1: didn't leave Florida with his family, I guess. And then
Speaker 1: Britt Baker is in Orlando, but it wasn't. I mean,
Speaker 1: she was just legitimately sick. So they told that story
Speaker 1: on the air. But all of the NXT wrestlers they
Speaker 1: can't fly back from Saint Louis. They're all stranded in
Speaker 1: Saint Louis for the foreseeable future. So man, not good,
Speaker 1: not good at all. All the best everybody out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so many people, excuse me, and so many wrestlers
Speaker 3: live in that area. We were in a text before
Speaker 3: the last hurricane kind of talking about how it used
Speaker 3: to be so many wrestlers were living in the path
Speaker 3: of where that hurricane went, because it looked like he
Speaker 3: could be up as far as Pensacola first and then
Speaker 3: down through Tampa and they kind of pretty much avoided it,
Speaker 3: but talked about how a lot of wrestlers now live
Speaker 3: Inland because of the Performance Center and because of wanting
Speaker 3: to be closer to Orlando or being closer to Jacksonville.
Speaker 3: It's just this is going right over Tampa to Orlando
Speaker 3: and then possibly even up as far as Jacksonville, and
Speaker 3: it's just going to be catastrophic what it looks like.
Speaker 3: And it's just all the best to everybody, all the
Speaker 3: best to everybody still recovering from the last hurricane.
Speaker 1: And then we got it so yesterday and observer Radio
Speaker 1: Dave was asking what the update was on Lucasaurus. Lucasaurus
Speaker 1: had he collapsed in his house? Trying to remember all
Speaker 1: the details. He collapsed in his house a couple of
Speaker 1: fridays ago, and I think it was collapsed lungs, ended
Speaker 1: up in the hospital, was on oxygen. I mean, he
Speaker 1: was in really rough shape. And then I think it
Speaker 1: was last weekend. The last word I got was that
Speaker 1: he was doing a lot better and they were hopeful
Speaker 1: that he was going to be in the gym this
Speaker 1: past Monday. I think it was his past Monday. But anyway,
Speaker 1: that was the latest that I got, and so I
Speaker 1: assumed yesterday that he was probably back in the gym again,
Speaker 1: And as it turns out, he is not back in
Speaker 1: the gym, and he will not be back in the
Speaker 1: gym for a while, and he's not going to be
Speaker 1: back wrestling, probably for a while and it's hopefully he
Speaker 1: will be back wrestling in a while. So apparently there
Speaker 1: were complications and I guess he got maybe a flu
Speaker 1: or something like that, and I guess he also he
Speaker 1: had some issue and I guess they don't know what
Speaker 1: it is, but maybe he had sleep apne or something
Speaker 1: like that. So his immune system, I guess was compromised.
Speaker 1: So he ends up getting this flu and bad oxygen
Speaker 1: uptake as a result of whatever else turned into pneumonia.
Speaker 1: And apparently he is in he is at higher risk
Speaker 1: for a relapse, is what I was told. And the
Speaker 1: big concern is that after all of this, you know,
Speaker 1: they they've been running test after test after test, and
Speaker 1: apparently there may be permanent damage. They found calcification in
Speaker 1: a heart valve and his body is not producing iron,
Speaker 1: and so he's got like a whole bunch of tests
Speaker 1: that he apparently has to take. And I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's bad. So it's bad enough that he still I
Speaker 1: guess has to you know, he's out of the hospital apparently,
Speaker 1: but he still has to do oxygen because just like
Speaker 1: things at home, it's hard to breathe, and he's got
Speaker 1: to go to specialists and likes it's a potential. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's a career ending issue,
Speaker 1: but like it could be a career ending issue. So
Speaker 1: all the best. De Lucasaurus. It's one of those things
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta be careful because it happens. You know,
Speaker 1: pro wrestler, great shape, you know, was doing well and
Speaker 1: then boom.
Speaker 3: Just like it could be life changing, you know, depending
Speaker 3: on what the scarring is with his lungs and how
Speaker 3: much he's able to build them back up. I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean think about the fact that, again I don't
Speaker 3: know what the guy does in his personal life, but
Speaker 3: you know, he was healthy enough and had enough win
Speaker 3: to wrestle professional wrestling matches, and he got to the
Speaker 3: point where probably happened relatively quickly too. You know, the
Speaker 3: symptoms were probably there for a while, but then to
Speaker 3: be stricken down where you are your lungs aren't functioning,
Speaker 3: and to the point where now this is there's complications.
Speaker 3: This is very scary. So yeah, hopefully he's able to
Speaker 3: come back and you know, forget about wrestling, but just
Speaker 3: be able to get back into a full healthy, you
Speaker 3: know man for his family, My god.
Speaker 1: So yeah, all the best to uh Lucisaurus kill switch.
Speaker 1: Hopefully he uh gets healthy, that's the main thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: something like this happens. Wrestling's wrestling, but you got to
Speaker 1: get healthy and hopefully they figure out what's going on
Speaker 1: and get it worked on and and he ends up healthy,
Speaker 1: so all the best to him. So then, uh, I
Speaker 1: don't know if this is a just a bizarre story.
Speaker 1: There was reportedly an incident at the hotel where several
Speaker 1: NXT talent were staying on Tuesday night.
Speaker 3: It's a hell of a transition to this story.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I just heard about it. A man
Speaker 1: was reportedly ejected from the hotel twice for allegedly attempting
Speaker 1: to photograph NXT talent, specifically the feat of female performers
Speaker 1: as they walked through the building. Yeah, they're all stuck
Speaker 1: there in this hotel. They can't leave, and uh there's
Speaker 1: this guy taking pictures of everybody's feet. So he got
Speaker 1: tossed out twice, and uh what next?
Speaker 3: I don't know. What do you follow that with?
Speaker 1: Taz Is recovering from surgery. That's actually good news this
Speaker 1: poor guy.
Speaker 3: Let's move up there, taz Is Is I think tomorrow
Speaker 3: is it?
Speaker 1: Tomorrow. He's got a birthday coming. Everyone's birthday is right
Speaker 1: around this time. Seawan's birthday is tonight, Vinnie's birthday is tomorrow. Actually,
Speaker 1: think Shawn's birthday was yesterday. Vinnie's birthday is tomorrow. Think
Speaker 1: about Tony Kahn's birthday is tomorrow.
Speaker 3: In February, when it's cold and you're snowed in, what
Speaker 3: is there to do?
Speaker 1: And then it as he turns fifty seven on Friday,
Speaker 1: But like all I heard was he's fifty seven. He
Speaker 1: walks around like he's ninety seven, and he's got airports
Speaker 1: he's got to go through and arenas he's got to
Speaker 1: go through, and you know, apparently like his wife. And
Speaker 1: you know how Hook is actually Guys, if I say
Speaker 1: that and you think you don't know how Hook is,
Speaker 1: you actually do because if you ever watch AW, that
Speaker 1: is a great example. Hook and Moxley are the two
Speaker 1: examples where what you see is what you get. That's
Speaker 1: who these guys are. And Hook being Hook, I guess
Speaker 1: was always telling his dad, like, just fix your knee, dude.
Speaker 1: So apparently he went in and fixed his knee and
Speaker 1: full knee replacement surgery and hopefully for his birthday, for
Speaker 1: his fifty seventh birthday, I hope he will walk around
Speaker 1: like he's fifty seven and not ninety seven. So all
Speaker 1: the best of Tazz as well.
Speaker 3: And well he won't be able to do that on
Speaker 3: his fifty seventh birthday.
Speaker 1: Well probably not on the actual birthday, but no, you know,
Speaker 1: he'll he'll get there. And then I don't have an
Speaker 1: update on Britt Baker except she was sick, like sick
Speaker 1: enough that they wouldn't let her get on the airplane.
Speaker 1: But I was told it was not something like, you know,
Speaker 1: she's on death's door or anything, but just like some
Speaker 1: flew or whatever and just sick as a dog. So anyway,
Speaker 1: best wishes her as well, and we'll try to get
Speaker 1: in some better news after the break, right, maybe we
Speaker 1: can talk about javaon Observer Live.
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Speaker 1: Here in the show, Brian Alvarez here, Wrestling Observer Live.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, I'll say, let me adjust in my chair. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll say this all right, Randy, and Javon wasn't a disaster, Okay,
Speaker 1: It wasn't a disaster. It was exactly what I thought
Speaker 1: they were gonna do, Like exactly, Randy dominates the match,
Speaker 1: Javon gets a comeback, he literally got a near fall,
Speaker 1: and then they went for the big wacky springboard into
Speaker 1: the r KO finish. They actually messed it up. But
Speaker 1: it's a new Randy Orton. He's a father, kids are
Speaker 1: in the crowd, and he was like, eh, lifted the
Speaker 1: guy up, gave him the RKO, laughed at how stupid
Speaker 1: it looked, and it was over and that was it.
Speaker 3: So Javon won't be getting fired like Ken Kennedy U.
Speaker 1: The guy afterwards or whatever. And I mean, here's the thing,
Speaker 1: here's a thing. Well that's another thing. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say this. Okay, if you think that this greatly helped
Speaker 1: and elevated Javon Evans, let's talk money. I got a
Speaker 1: lot of can sellia, all right, I got a lot
Speaker 1: of cancellia. Did it kill him?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: Am I gonna hear the same crap I hear after
Speaker 1: every Javon wrap. He's only twenty, He'll be fine. Yes,
Speaker 1: I will hear the same thing. But you know what
Speaker 1: actually kind of made me mad? What's okay. I had
Speaker 1: a booking idea which they didn't do because.
Speaker 3: No one listens to you. We've established that no.
Speaker 1: But listen to this. I thought, okay, you want to
Speaker 1: give Javon the rub. I know they think that the
Speaker 1: rub is he has a enough competitive match, he gets
Speaker 1: a near fall and then he gets RKO to death
Speaker 1: and pinned. Okay, I think that, you know, okay, that's
Speaker 1: their usual. But you know what really get the guy
Speaker 1: over is if they do a match for a while
Speaker 1: and listen, I said, Gallus, it made people met. I
Speaker 1: don't care who it is, Axiom and Nathan frad whoever.
Speaker 1: Somebody runs in attacks both guys and then we get
Speaker 1: a tag match where Randy teams with Javon Evans and
Speaker 1: maybe Randy hits an r KAO out of nowhere. This
Speaker 1: bloke stumbles to a feet and Javon does a springboard
Speaker 1: RKAO out of nowhere and Javon pins the guy. I
Speaker 1: promise you, I promise you. That would have done far
Speaker 1: more to get Javon over than what they did. And
Speaker 1: the irony is this. Earlier on on the same show,
Speaker 1: they had two big stars from the main roster, the
Speaker 1: women's tag team champions Bianca bell Air and Jade Cardial
Speaker 1: and they teamed her with Kolanie Jordan. They had a
Speaker 1: six person match. The match was actually really good, and
Speaker 1: then Bianca and Jade hit a big move and they
Speaker 1: go bob am. Kilanie goes up top hits her spring
Speaker 1: split legged moon salt and Klannie gets the pit and
Speaker 1: the freaking place went nuts and Kilanie celebrates with Biank
Speaker 1: and Jade. They're all on the same level. I was like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how you do it. They literally did it on
Speaker 1: the same show with somebody else. It's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I quit. Who cares. He'll he'll be on the main
Speaker 1: roster by forty you know, he'll get his run, He'll
Speaker 1: all be great and everything like that. God whatever, who cares.
Speaker 3: They would have did the same sort of thing. You'd
Speaker 3: be complaining they did the same.
Speaker 1: No, I would not. You think I'm gonna complain about
Speaker 1: them doing my idea twice. No, I feel like finally.
Speaker 3: You would complain. Fact, think did it? That's so you'd
Speaker 3: be fine with you know what else.
Speaker 1: K Klan's only twenty five. She'd have been fine, but
Speaker 1: you did it right with her? Do we have to
Speaker 1: wait till this blokes twenty five years old? Do we
Speaker 1: have to wait till I watch this guy in the
Speaker 1: CW for five years before we pull the trigger on him?
Speaker 1: Five years.
Speaker 3: More of a stamp of approval in their eyes? Did
Speaker 3: will be? You know what you're turning into. You're turning
Speaker 3: into the guy who's still complaining about Carter signing there
Speaker 3: for that four year deal. It's gonna kill his career
Speaker 3: because he's signing there.
Speaker 1: I never complained about Ben Carter signing.
Speaker 3: A lot of people did I didn't.
Speaker 1: Does anybody even know you want to complain about what
Speaker 1: somebody else complain about? That's fine, but I never did.
Speaker 3: I'm just bringing it up because that's the person that
Speaker 3: you sound like. Okay, like that.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you think I sound like someone else.
Speaker 1: I actually didn't say that.
Speaker 3: I know you didn't. I'm finally, and I'm not accusing
Speaker 3: you of saying that so you can stamp your feet
Speaker 3: over there. I'm just saying you're right. They're not doing
Speaker 3: everything I think to make Javon Evans as big of
Speaker 3: a star as they should. I just it's amazing how
Speaker 3: this one sticks in your craw to the point where
Speaker 3: you know, okay, fine, he'll make it by forty, you know,
Speaker 3: come on.
Speaker 1: Please, well you know what, I'll just say this. When
Speaker 1: he makes it before forty, let me know. I'll wait, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll wait.
Speaker 3: Will you still be He's gonna be thirty nine.
Speaker 1: They'll go, it's twenty Hold on a second, he's twenty now,
Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty four, so this will be twenty forty four. Okay,
Speaker 1: by twenty forty four, when you're forty, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: like early in life, people are gonna be living like
Speaker 1: a hundred twenty. So he'll probably be thirty nine years old,
Speaker 1: and I'll have the same bloke telling me, eh, he's
Speaker 1: only thirty nine. He'll still be fine. Everything is good, man.
Speaker 3: He'll still be on NXT. He'll be the Keenan Thompson
Speaker 3: like he is on Saturday Night Live of MXT. At
Speaker 3: that point, it'll be like him and Sean will be
Speaker 3: looking both ways in a rocking chair, going back and forth,
Speaker 3: and I guess see him. Punk will be down there
Speaker 3: taking over for Sean, and Javon can still be there, like,
Speaker 3: you know, just if he can get one more chance,
Speaker 3: you know, he'll still be there with him probably fell and.
Speaker 1: Emily, Now I started off with a negative, but I'm
Speaker 1: a fair man. And let me tell you something. My
Speaker 1: favorite thing in NXT in months, and my favorite thing
Speaker 1: on either show last night was this frickin' Obafemi Tony
Speaker 1: D match. Oh my god, dude. It was like it
Speaker 1: was everything coming together. Like if you don't watch NXT
Speaker 1: and you watch the match, it'll be kind of like,
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, that was pretty cool, good good heat.
Speaker 1: It was like a good match or whatever. But like,
Speaker 1: you gotta follow this from the very beginning, like you
Speaker 1: gotta watch. You gotta like follow what they've done with
Speaker 1: Oba Femi, Like this guy is just like he's unbeatable.
Speaker 1: He's unbeatable, and he's gigantic, and he just kills everybody
Speaker 1: and nobody stands a chance. And then they've got Tony D.
Speaker 1: And they did this storyline where Tony D faced Oba
Speaker 1: Femi and Oba broke him. He broke Tony D, just
Speaker 1: broke his spirit and Tony D like he just gave
Speaker 1: up and he walked out and like he was all miserable,
Speaker 1: and they're trying to find out what's wrong with Tony
Speaker 1: D and does he want to rematch and then Tony
Speaker 1: finally had missed this big murderous gangster babyface finally admits,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm scared. I can't beat this guy.
Speaker 1: And the family's like, why are you talking like this?
Speaker 1: And it ends up with Rizzo. They're doing like the
Speaker 1: Rocky storyline, and Rizzo's just like, dude, I know you
Speaker 1: really want this. I know you want to do this.
Speaker 1: We'll train you, and she talks him into training again,
Speaker 1: and it was really clever because like the way they're
Speaker 1: doing the storyline, you're thinking, well, he has to beat
Speaker 1: oba Femi, but then it's like, dude, no one's beating
Speaker 1: oba Femi. This guy's unstoppable. And then they did a
Speaker 1: thing like a week ago where Tony is, you know,
Speaker 1: they're kind of going, you know what, maybe you're gonna win,
Speaker 1: but even if you don't win, man, brother, you gave
Speaker 1: it your all. And as soon as they said that,
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, like this is gonna be a cool
Speaker 1: storyline and he's gonna go on. He's not gonna beat
Speaker 1: oba Femi. So they train him and everything like that,
Speaker 1: and they're doing this match and the match is like fine,
Speaker 1: you know, it's okay, there's decent heat or whatever. But
Speaker 1: then they do a spot where they both tumble outside.
Speaker 1: It's all from memory, by the way, I don't even know.
Speaker 1: They all tumble outside and the families they made a
Speaker 1: wall and they're staring down Oba Femi and Oba Femi's
Speaker 1: just laughing at him, and he's laughing at Tony and
Speaker 1: he shoves Stacks and Luca Crucofino and in taking a bump,
Speaker 1: they knock down Rizzo and Tony's stirring to his feet
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he sees Oba and he
Speaker 1: sees Rizzo and man, it's on like nick bone and
Speaker 1: he just fires up and he makes the best baby
Speaker 1: face comeback. And this dude's throwing Oba around and they're
Speaker 1: doing all these great near falls and then like his
Speaker 1: big move is a spinebuster, and they go outside and
Speaker 1: Oba's getting his choke slam through the announced table, but
Speaker 1: Tony picks him up and bom, he puts him to
Speaker 1: then oun table with the spinebuster plays going nuts. He
Speaker 1: throws him in the ring. He hits another spinebuster. It's like, man,
Speaker 1: it's now or never, brother, you at you're finished to
Speaker 1: a table and in the ring and he covers one two.
Speaker 1: Oba kicks out and it's like, ah, man, this is great,
Speaker 1: but like he ain't beating this guy, and Oba just
Speaker 1: does the zo He doesn't even just kick out, he
Speaker 1: kicks out and he does a zombie sit up. As
Speaker 1: I go, well it was good, Walt lasted and he
Speaker 1: freaking grabs Tony by the throat and he goes for
Speaker 1: his big choke slam and Tony Sunset flips down his
Speaker 1: back jackknife cradle one two three. This building blew up,
Speaker 1: and Tony's like he does the big like it's not
Speaker 1: like a pro wrestling thing. He's like, God, he just
Speaker 1: is so excited that he got this guy. Dude, this
Speaker 1: was awesome, absolutely freaking great, the best thing I've seen
Speaker 1: in NXT in months. God, it was so good. But
Speaker 1: you have to watch the watch. You have to dedicate
Speaker 1: yourself to the whole thing for to be as great
Speaker 1: as it was. And I suffered through dedicating myself to
Speaker 1: the whole thing because I had to watch, you know,
Speaker 1: the rest. But man, this is great, absolutely great. I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear one bad thing about this or
Speaker 1: that's that's fighting words. Mike.
Speaker 3: You wouldn't get within ten feet to me, buddy, that's
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 1: That's right. I couldn't beat you up unless I got close.
Speaker 3: You couldn't.
Speaker 1: I can't just go.
Speaker 3: But I know, but I know what I could do
Speaker 3: to you. I know what I could do to you.
Speaker 3: And I tell you what, there's a lot.
Speaker 1: Of ways I'm stupid about Spokane.
Speaker 3: What else?
Speaker 1: Hit me with it?
Speaker 3: Oh, believe me, you'll be hit with it. Tony d
Speaker 3: How this thing started with him going after the North
Speaker 3: American title, and you remember how convoluted things were coming
Speaker 3: out of the deal with no quarter catch crew. I
Speaker 3: can't believe they were able to take this where they did.
Speaker 3: I thought it was going to be so goofy at
Speaker 3: times with them in the restaurant all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: But you know what, with how the thing paid off,
Speaker 3: I think it's great. And now he's always got one
Speaker 3: thing over this monster overthem me, he's got to win.
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Speaker 2: You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez
Speaker 2: and Mike semper VV on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1: In the show, Brian Alvarez here Wrestling Observer Live like
Speaker 1: simper vv also Wrestling Observer dot Com down to Earth
Speaker 1: again so raw this past Monday night? Should we talk ratings?
Speaker 1: Anyone care? Anyway? They took out that third hour and
Speaker 1: the show did fine. It didn't do like a a
Speaker 1: gigantic number anything before. It is slightly up one point
Speaker 1: five to five million viewers and a point for seven,
Speaker 1: very similar to last week. But as we also had
Speaker 1: a Kansas City chiefs versus New Orleans Saint match with
Speaker 1: Taylor swift so natural fifteen point eight million and a
Speaker 1: four point three four rating, and also a New York
Speaker 1: Yankees versus can't see the Royals playoff game three point
Speaker 1: four eight million and a point eight three. So that's
Speaker 1: what happens. See him, well, there's a missing period here,
Speaker 1: it says to see him Punk interviewed at one hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy one million viewers. I think that's one point
Speaker 1: seventy one. But that was the high point of the
Speaker 1: show when he said he's going home and uh, this guy,
Speaker 1: what a what a what a schedule? He's got? How
Speaker 1: many matches he had this year? Three I'm not kidding,
Speaker 1: let me tell you. Yeah, the Royal rumble and then
Speaker 1: the Drew match and then another Drew match. Was hurt
Speaker 1: well he was hurt well, I know, but he was
Speaker 1: on that whole time.
Speaker 3: But let's be honest in this day and age in
Speaker 3: professional wrestling, in both companies, especially AW, but in both companies,
Speaker 3: I mean, how many people are sitting there and getting
Speaker 3: paid and they're not working, and they are not injured,
Speaker 3: They're just sitting there. And that the one thing about
Speaker 3: it is, you know, artistically, it drives you nuts. You
Speaker 3: do lose time. You know, every day you get another
Speaker 3: day older, and you want opportunities, you want to do things.
Speaker 3: But you know, in another way, if you live frugally enough,
Speaker 3: you take some of that money and sock it away
Speaker 3: and just take advantage of these times that you can
Speaker 3: have with your family or cultivating other things in your
Speaker 3: life that may not have to do with wrestling that
Speaker 3: you may be able to branch off to.
Speaker 1: All Right, anything else from the two shows last night?
Speaker 1: A quick look here, we talked about all of that.
Speaker 1: They're setting up.
Speaker 3: Say, it doesn't say much about aew since we didn't
Speaker 3: talk about them at all.
Speaker 1: I guess the only thing, Well, I'll get to that
Speaker 1: in a minute. Bruh, you want me to just skip
Speaker 1: back and forth like a mission and.
Speaker 3: From both shows? Yeah, do we have anything else to talk.
Speaker 1: I'll get to it. Calm down there, Theory, I said,
Speaker 1: do we have anything else to talk about from these
Speaker 1: two shows? The answer is yes, So I'm talking about it.
Speaker 3: Rhetorical question.
Speaker 1: Axiom and Nathan and Frasier beat Theory and Grayson Waller.
Speaker 1: Nobody broke up, but they had another tease for Theory
Speaker 1: and Grayson Waller breaking up. Could somebody do me a
Speaker 1: favor and go back and find out when they began
Speaker 1: teasing these men were gonna break up. Was it WrestleMania
Speaker 1: or was it before that? I think maybe they'd been
Speaker 1: teasing and we thought it was gonna happen at WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: When did they start teasing the breakup of Austin Theory
Speaker 1: and Grayson Waller. It has to have been like six
Speaker 1: months now, that's ridiculous. We're still waiting for this breakup.
Speaker 1: So that happened then?
Speaker 3: Is anybody? But the thing is maybe they're right. Does
Speaker 3: anybody care?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What did it be done? I'm sick of it?
Speaker 3: What's okay? What's is this far worse for you than
Speaker 3: what's going on with Kofe and Xavier and them right
Speaker 3: in that No.
Speaker 1: That's only been like three months. Crayson and Austin Theory
Speaker 1: have been at least triple that at least.
Speaker 3: I just at some point they're gonna have that match,
Speaker 3: and if Biggie doesn't come out and just scare them
Speaker 3: both down and look disappointed like the brother of the
Speaker 3: guy that was trying to give people up in the
Speaker 3: Godfather and the Senate hearings and he just had they
Speaker 3: brought in the brother from Sicily to stare him down,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden he forgot about everything. That's
Speaker 3: what Biggie needs to do now.
Speaker 1: This Ava character in storyline is completely incompetent. So next
Speaker 1: week we have a number one contenders match Wes Lee
Speaker 1: versus Ethan Page because they both want to shout at
Speaker 1: the title. And then she adds because of his performance tonight,
Speaker 1: I'm adding Javon Evans. See how about Obafemi who had
Speaker 1: a significantly significantly more impressive performance who also lost, but
Speaker 1: who's basically undefeated otherwise, unlike Javon.
Speaker 3: Maybe turned an ankle.
Speaker 2: You don't know.
Speaker 1: That was stupid. And then we've got Stephanie Vakierre and
Speaker 1: Ren Sinclair. Tony D celebrates his title win. Nikita Lyons
Speaker 1: has return. She'll face Lola Ice. She returned in a
Speaker 1: backstage interview segment with Lola. That's her big return and
Speaker 1: that's and she's been out like nine months.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a lot of bad kicks and punches
Speaker 3: in that match.
Speaker 1: Bro and the Halloween Havoc Wheel returns. Spin the Wheel
Speaker 1: make the deal a gimmick wheel. It's so gimmicked it
Speaker 1: makes it even better. It's like you spin it, it
Speaker 1: goes really fast and lands on.
Speaker 3: Oh god, you know what? When is how long is
Speaker 3: Gigi Dolan out for? Is it a long period of time?
Speaker 3: No clue, because that would be a perfect time to
Speaker 3: bring her back.
Speaker 1: So then we add the NXT show or the Dynamite
Speaker 1: Show and.
Speaker 3: Is there anything to talk about on this show?
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a totally, absolutely bizarre angle where
Speaker 1: Darby calls out rody King. He asks Brody King to
Speaker 1: attack him. Brody King refuses, so Darby slaps him across
Speaker 1: the face. So then Brody hits him and then Darby
Speaker 1: assaults him with a boulder. And I looked it up,
Speaker 1: by the way, and it is a boulder ten point one.
Speaker 1: It was inches in diameter. That was for sure a boulder.
Speaker 3: People think about boulders, they think about the flintstones.
Speaker 1: I don't care what they think about folks.
Speaker 3: Its hand. It was the same rock he beat on
Speaker 3: the cars with last week.
Speaker 1: I'll still put it this way. It was as big
Speaker 1: as Mike's brain. So how big was that rock?
Speaker 3: Mike?
Speaker 1: I'll tell you it was a boulder. But it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter what he hit him with. The fact is the
Speaker 1: baby Face came out darre the heel to just attack him.
Speaker 1: The heel goes, I'm not gonna attack you, brother, So
Speaker 1: the Babyface slaps him. Well, now the Heel retaliates, and
Speaker 1: so because he retaliated, the baby Face starts hitting him
Speaker 1: with a freaking rock. That was weird, dude, Well that
Speaker 1: was weird.
Speaker 3: You're right, a lot of emotion on this show, because
Speaker 3: in ten minutes we had three interviews. That was the
Speaker 3: first ten minutes of the show, was three interviews, two
Speaker 3: of which were about things from the past and trying
Speaker 3: to save someone by putting them in a dark place
Speaker 3: and then possibly killing them or maiming them. Because John
Speaker 3: Moxley had a cold open to the show with the
Speaker 3: music in theme lighting talking about how he's going to
Speaker 3: drag Brian Danielson into this dark place so he can
Speaker 3: eventually bring out the best him in so he can
Speaker 3: kill him and let him go. And that's what brody
Speaker 3: King and Darby were basically talking about here too, or
Speaker 3: Darby and brody Key were talking about here too. So
Speaker 3: a lot of emotion on this show, a lot of
Speaker 3: there's always a lot of darkness. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: fathers with obviously with Christian we have Chris Jericho invoking
Speaker 3: Jay Brisco, so Mark and cut a promo serious about
Speaker 3: their match, and I'm looking forward to their match, to
Speaker 3: be honest, two old pros going at it. I look
Speaker 3: forward to seeing what they're going to do. But how
Speaker 3: they build up to a lot of this stuff, there
Speaker 3: is a dark element that's really over a lot of it.
Speaker 1: We had an angle where Don Callous traded Rouche for
Speaker 1: Lance Archer, So Jake the Snake Roberts is the new
Speaker 1: head of La Faccion in Gobernables?
Speaker 3: Is is that a Mexico thing? Does Rooshti work triple
Speaker 3: A where Jake could go down and Callous like, seriously.
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I don't think he's going back.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of heat.
Speaker 3: Okay, well that's the only way that that would even
Speaker 3: think about making sense to me. Jake Robert shouldn't be
Speaker 3: on TV period point.
Speaker 1: Playing Well the reason The reason is well, they had
Speaker 1: to do something and rushe obviously wanted to be with
Speaker 1: LFI and not the Callus family would be my guess.
Speaker 1: And then you know they had to do something. So
Speaker 1: Archer's not doing anything with Jake, you know, callous. I'm
Speaker 1: sure wants a big killer. They don't do nothing with
Speaker 1: Lance Archer, so it's all fine, it's just silly. We
Speaker 1: had Hologram and Commander, which was what I've been asking for.
Speaker 1: Give me one random lucha match on the show every week.
Speaker 1: I don't care who's in it, I don't care what
Speaker 1: it's about, just flip and fly fans. This was the
Speaker 1: most heated thing on the show was this match. By
Speaker 1: the end, they loved it. And we had Daniel Garcia
Speaker 1: announcing that he's back. He's back. He re signed and
Speaker 1: announced it in front of seventeen hundred people and Spokanne
Speaker 1: didn't get the reaction it might have gotten Buffalo a
Speaker 1: larger crowd. But he's back. And then we had it Yep,
Speaker 1: Willow Say and Jamie and nyla number one contenders match
Speaker 1: because Britt was gone and I'll tell you what's notable here.
Speaker 1: So ends up with Willow winning and then they go
Speaker 1: up on the stage and they have a stare down
Speaker 1: Mariah and Willow, and Mariah tries to slap her, but
Speaker 1: Willow grabs her wrist to stop the slap and freakin
Speaker 1: Mariah magoes bah and she headbutted Willow so hard right
Speaker 1: in the face, and she immediately grabs her own head
Speaker 1: and Willow grabs her own face. She starts streaming blood.
Speaker 1: They do a thing backstage and like Willow's all cut
Speaker 1: right here, like she here tooth went through her lip
Speaker 1: or whatever. I was like, dude, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: What are we doing? You just head butted her right
Speaker 1: in the freaking mouth as hard as you could. So anyway,
Speaker 1: she got her revenge later by pouncing Mariah through the wall.
Speaker 3: Look that was But the thing is she didn't and
Speaker 3: that was kind of weird. And they do this too often.
Speaker 3: Willow comes in as Mariah's cutting the interview and gives
Speaker 3: her a pounce and knocks her over. And then Willow,
Speaker 3: instead of jumping on her, this woman that just head
Speaker 3: butted her in the face, she starts to cut promo. Okay, fine,
Speaker 3: just tell her yell at her real quick, get out
Speaker 3: of there. It's this longer. It wasn't forever, but it
Speaker 3: was too long of a promo as Mariah is just
Speaker 3: laying there on the ground. And then they cut to
Speaker 3: Mariah and it's even longer of her just laying there
Speaker 3: on the ground. It was just How does that make
Speaker 3: any real sense at all to me? It just doesn't.
Speaker 1: Mercedes meet Emmy Soakrara, Emmi Sockra did not win the
Speaker 1: titles in this match. Here and then we had the
Speaker 1: best thing on the show by Miles, which was the
Speaker 1: interview with Will Ospray and Don Callous. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was awesome. They finally have broken Ospray away from the
Speaker 1: Callus family and Don admitted that he sent out Ta
Speaker 1: Keshta to attack Ospray last week. Osprey cuts a promo
Speaker 1: on him, ends up getting attacked by Takeshta. They end
Speaker 1: up having Don actually took a bump. That's the most
Speaker 1: newsworthy thing. And then finally Kyle comes out and Don
Speaker 1: wants him to screwge Osprey. He won't do it. Takeshna
Speaker 1: goes back after Osprey, Ricochet comes down to set up
Speaker 1: their three way. I mean, you gotta watch the whole segment,
Speaker 1: but it was great. This was great, tons of heat
Speaker 1: and by far the best thing on the show.
Speaker 3: Can somebody get some sort of message to Callous from me?
Speaker 3: And you can mix it up in any type of
Speaker 3: way so it doesn't have to be for me, But
Speaker 3: I can't be the only one who looks at the
Speaker 3: screwdriver and goes, this is so stupid. This has been
Speaker 3: stupid every time they've used it, unless it's a metaphor
Speaker 3: for something, and if that's the case, explain it. But like, otherwise,
Speaker 3: unless you're going to jam it in people's eyes, like,
Speaker 3: why are you using this as a weapon of destruction?
Speaker 3: It was like Claudio last night using the tiny hammer
Speaker 3: to hammer Wheeler da in the ribs. It didn't. It
Speaker 3: doesn't come across to me with the visual that you
Speaker 3: want it to at all, like at all, it looks
Speaker 3: it looks kind of corny, to be honest. So uh.
Speaker 1: Then the main event was Danielson and Wheeler versus Claudio
Speaker 1: and Pack and uh man, this Brian is just a wreck.
Speaker 1: It's just a wreck. And the story is the Heels
Speaker 1: come out. They try to hit a bunch of big
Speaker 1: finishes on Brian, but he kicks out everything, puts the
Speaker 1: Labell lock on Pock for the submission, dives on Moxley.
Speaker 1: They have a big brawl the heels, they kill poor Wheeler.
Speaker 1: Brian comes back out to do yes chance over Wheeler's corpse,
Speaker 1: and the thing is, guys, I'm not saying he's never
Speaker 1: gonna wrestle again. But this might have been the last
Speaker 1: television match ever in the career of Brian Danielson because
Speaker 1: if he does come back, it should only be on
Speaker 1: pay per view. So this might have been the last
Speaker 1: television match in the career of Brian Danielson. And like
Speaker 1: it was fine, but it was just a small crowd.
Speaker 1: It was just sad watching this year. Ship here two,
Speaker 1: I don't know man back in a moment Observer Live.
Speaker 2: You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez
Speaker 2: and Mike Simper Vivi on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1: Back here on the show, I made it, Wrestling Observer Live. Yes,
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Speaker 1: him on Observer Live. But we do have a bunch
Speaker 1: of stuff coming up over the next few days. Tonights
Speaker 1: to Brian and Vinnie and Granny and Craig Show celebrating
Speaker 1: Sean and Vinnie's birthdays, as well as watching an old
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Speaker 1: gonna be an eight thirty Pacific eleven thirty Eastern gotta
Speaker 1: start a half hour late here today. Uh, I forgot
Speaker 1: what day it was. I have to uh teach jiu jitsu,
Speaker 1: so I'll be back for eight thirty instead of eight.
Speaker 1: And then uh tomorrow, now you know, Mike, you're on
Speaker 1: your own. I have to chaperone a field trip. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go see cat kid Comic Club apparently in Seattle.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's good, not some dumb play and kid comic club. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: So that'll be uh, that'll be Mike tomorrow.
Speaker 3: No, I don't want to be young.
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