1 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Pamela Anderson went to fashion week in Paris with no makeup. 2 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: Now I applaud this, I absolutely applaud this. And I 3 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: don't think she just went with no makeup as just 4 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: what her normal practices. I mean, I've seen her out 5 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: with makeup. I think that she's making a statement, which 6 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: I do like. Like I remember, I think it was 7 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Carrie Bradshaw who was making a statement with her gray hair, 8 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: and one might say it wasn't a statement, it was 9 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: just that she was letting her gray hair show. But 10 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: I do think it is a statement. I think going 11 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: to Paris Fashion Week, which is fraught with young influencers 12 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: that have millions of followers, that are using filters, ad 13 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: nauseum and face tune, Paris Fashion Week is the place 14 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: where it's a spectacle, a circus, a show. People all 15 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: over social media talk about outfit one Paris Fashion Week. 16 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: Come with me to Chanel, get ready with me to 17 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: go to a Massoony or a Mesquino or Prada or 18 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: Ammumu or whoever, don't shake Abana, whoever showing. 19 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. 20 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm not a fashion week person, as you know, but 21 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: I kind of like the balance between Pamela Anderson, having 22 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: the courage to be seen without makeup at a certain age, 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: feeling the feeling at a certain age that you feel 24 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: where it's like I am about so many things that 25 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: have nothing to do with my looks, but also wanting 26 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: to make a statement about it, Like I like that 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: Paulina makes a statement about it. I like a woman 28 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: of a certain age leaning in and making a statement 29 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: about it. Because so many young girls are so hyper 30 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: focused on how they physically look, it means they're not 31 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: focusing on themselves emotionally, spiritually. They're really focusing on the superficial. 32 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: And it's a very tempting road to go on. And 33 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: for our kids and for ourselves, we have to exercise 34 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: the other parts of ourselves that aren't about what we 35 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: look like. And I can say I've always walked that 36 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: walk and always talked that talk in my twenties and 37 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: my thirties and my forties and my fifties. I've never 38 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: been vain, and I have never defined myself by what 39 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: I look like. And yet every day on social media, 40 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: someone will criticize me and say I look like some 41 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: woman who's some anorexic person. 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: All over TikTok. 43 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: Because I've lost some weight recently because of dental surgery, 44 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: or it's that I look like skeletor or the black 45 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: circles under my eyes, or that I have like a 46 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: little patch where I'm losing hair, or the other day 47 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: I had a piece of hair stuck to my face 48 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: with cotton candy, I mean, with a marshmallow on it. 49 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: People saying I have a hair growing out of my face. 50 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: People really want to trash and bash the way that 51 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: women physically look. And there's something to being a certain 52 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: age and knowing the journey you've been on and what 53 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: it took for you to get those laugh lines, those 54 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: that crow's feet, to have the gray hair, and that 55 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: you really just want to be who you are and 56 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: you don't want it to be defined by how you look. 57 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: And many people who were sex symbols or supermodels resented 58 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: even more because they know that they were judged and 59 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: liked and defined by what they look like. And you 60 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: have to lean into it. You know, I had Tyler 61 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: Cameron on here, and you can tell that he doesn't 62 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: like to be objectified and thought of as just this 63 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: hot guy. He's undeniably hot. Then you have him go 64 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: on Andy Cohen's show, trying to get him to take 65 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: his shirt off and talking really only about how hot 66 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: he is, and make a stereotype of that, did moms 67 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: want you, you know, want to sleep with you when 68 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: you were mowing their lawns or things like that? Like 69 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: those are the low hanging fruit stereotypes that are superficial 70 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: and all about looks. And I like someone leaning into 71 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm making a statement. At Paris Fashion Week arguably the 72 00:03:53,720 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: most superficial four show put on like hours of hair 73 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: and makeup and filtering and editing and stylists and the machine, 74 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: and now it being all about young social media influencers 75 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: who have no history or education in fashion. They're just 76 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: social media famous. But it's become something even more superficial. 77 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: It used to be about actually looking at the clothes, 78 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: used to be about the art of the fabric and 79 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: the design and the inspiration, And now I think it 80 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: really is just about famous people sitting first row. And 81 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: I think Pamela Anderson made a very strong and powerful 82 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: statement and the people who said negative things. 83 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: About her are vile. 84 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: How could you talk about what someone else should look 85 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: like and how they should have done it? Differently, like 86 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: that's the low. I've talked about people's choices, but to 87 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: talk about someone's physical appearance is really just like that's 88 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: a despicable, disgusting person. Anyone who talks about anyone's physical 89 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: appearance in a negative manner should immediately be removed from 90 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: social media, never to return again. That should be a 91 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: TikTok and Instagram rule, Like you talk about someone's physical 92 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: appearance negatively, you are banned for life. What is worse 93 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: for young people? 94 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 2: What is worse? Nothing? 95 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: So there's so much discussion about Travis Kelsey and Taylor 96 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: Swift something we really don't know very much about it 97 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: all because I've said before that Taylor Swift is as 98 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: famous as the Queen, and every move that she makes 99 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: and every nod that she you know, takes towards towards 100 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: Blake Lively or hug of Travis's mom or whatever they're doing, 101 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: she knows she's doing. So she knows whatever plan she 102 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: has or whatever is going on that we don't know. 103 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: But it does beg the question can there be two 104 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: peacocks in a relationship. The only reason that I am 105 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: not sure about this relationship, although they both deserve to 106 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: be happy. They're both beautiful, they're both young and in 107 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: their prime. Is that it's very hard for there to 108 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: be too peacocks in a relationship. Many of the relationships 109 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: at work with celebrities is one peacock. Matthew McConaughey is 110 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: the peacock in his relationship. Matt Damon is the peacock 111 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: in his relationship. Jennifer Lopez is the peacock in her relationship. 112 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: I am the peacock in my relationship. I believe that 113 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: Haley Bieber is the peacock in that relationship. That's a 114 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: harder one, that's a much harder one. That's when it 115 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: gets to be harder, you know. But I believe that 116 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: Taylor would have to be the peacock in the relationship 117 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: with Travis because he could just stick to like the 118 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: art and the game of football. But when I watch 119 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: him dance around and be the real charismatic entertainer, he 120 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: seems like the peacock. And you know, there were jokes 121 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: about who put each other on the map, and people 122 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: were mad. Men were mad around America that women were 123 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: saying that Taylor put Travis on the map because two 124 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: men and two football, which is massive the NFL is massive. 125 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: It's about ten percent as massive as Taylor Swift is, 126 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: but it's still massive. In his world of football, He's 127 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: on a massive map and he's the peacock. So it's 128 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: just interesting if there can be two people that really 129 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: have that level of fame, that have those responsibilities, someone's 130 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: gonna have to hang back Tom Brady and Giselle. He 131 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: was the peacock in the end. She stayed home in 132 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: Boston to watch the kids, and then she decided it's 133 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: my turn to be the peacock again, and he wanted 134 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: back in. He wanted to go back to playing football. 135 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: So it's not that easy for two people to be 136 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: in the light, you know, to be in the spotlight. 137 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: It's just not that easy. And it's not shady. It's 138 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: just not that easy what happened with Travis and Taylor. 139 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: I was a little bit in trouble for saying it 140 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: was a little over the top. I said what I said. 141 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm not I like her her work, ethic is remarkable, 142 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: her concert was amazing, good role model for girls. New chapter. 143 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: I thought it was a little over the top. Why 144 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: can't I have an opinion? I thought that with the 145 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: mom you don't go hug the mom in the first aid. 146 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: Those moms will cut a bitch. Anyone's mom foot well 147 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: kind of bitch. She knows, and she said on the 148 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: Today Show it's okay. It was okay, meaning her or whatever. 149 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: They'll play the game I've been with. The more you 150 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: kiss a mom's ass, my fiance's mom, she's amazing. She's 151 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: one of us. She's not looking for any son's girlfriend 152 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 1: of friance to like kiss her ass. That's the weak 153 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: The strong woman plays the middle, is respectful, is lovely, 154 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: but gains the respect of the mother in law, not 155 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: like not being all over So I don't think if 156 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: she really liked him, which she probably didn't, it was 157 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: played right. It was either a deal with the NFL 158 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: or just she wants to be known as like that 159 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: hot sexy girl, not like just the girl next door 160 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: blondielocks or who cares? She's out with her girlfriend. She's 161 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: having fun. I like that answer, and people like, who cares? 162 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: What do you care? 163 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: If she was over the top, she was having fun. 164 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: But whatever she was doing, she was knowing she was 165 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: doing it because she is like Queen Elizabeth, and every 166 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: move and every eyelash is looked at, so she knew 167 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: what she was doing. And then some people said it 168 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: was to cover up like her carbon footprint, her CO 169 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: two emissions, that she needed a diversion and a distraction 170 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: because something was coming out. And she's the number one 171 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: on the list. Yeah, she's doing a worldwide tour traveling, 172 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: and she's moved markets, she's changed economies. We cannot have 173 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: everything happen at the same time. I think she's built 174 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: up cities. They've given her to the Keysta cities. 175 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 176 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: Is she supposed to walk, go on a rickshaw, sit 177 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: in a friend flintstone car with the bottom out, and 178 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: use her feet? How the fuck is she supposed to 179 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: get everywhere? Jeff Blue, I literally don't know. What is 180 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: she supposed to do? Calling elon Musk, stop at Morris First, 181 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: and then go down to fucking Milwaukee. 182 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: I have no idea. 183 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: I'm not a scientist. So let's say she's number one 184 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: on the list. What is she supposed to fucking do? 185 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: Take all her fans on the plane with her. 186 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 187 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: Someone tell me you're gonna say I'm ignorant. 188 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 2: Maybe I am. I don't know. 189 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: The NFL pushed it a little, but they didn't. They 190 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: made millions of dollars. The ratings were up so high, 191 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: and they leaned all the way in. Men are starting 192 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: to get aggravated because they want football back. Like I've 193 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: heard a couple of men that I really like in 194 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: respect that are like, okay, like I like it, and 195 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: it's good for this and it's good for business, and 196 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: tailor is good for the NFL. But like one guy 197 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: on one of the tiktoks said, like it's the only 198 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: fucking thing I had for myself. A lot of men 199 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: are like, we don't need to cut the tailor every 200 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: second during the game. The NFL does need to do 201 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: that because it's bringing in viewers and they're selling merch 202 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: and it's bringing in tens and hundreds of millions of dollars. 203 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: Like it's a real number changer. She can move an economy. 204 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: But men who just you know, want the remote and 205 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: a beer and some wings are not loving the tailor effect. 206 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: They just want their game back. I'm just hearing I 207 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: heard Paul talking about it. He's like, all right, we 208 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: did it, we got it. Let's can we have our 209 00:10:54,880 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: game back. Beckham's reality show I didn't even know they 210 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: were fucking real human beings. I thought there were wax 211 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: figures or those little cake people on British wedding cakes, 212 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: did not know they were real. It's almost like something 213 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: i'm saving. I'm not the person that buys the outfit 214 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: and wears it. The first day that I get it, like, 215 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: I don't put it on and the next day some 216 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: people do that, like you're that or you're not. On 217 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: the opposite, I'm always like I have. This is my craziness. 218 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: I save things so I like, I'll buy something that 219 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: I think is phenomenal and it will not see the 220 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: light of day, no exaggeration, for five years. It'll sit 221 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: in my closet like just waiting its turn, like me 222 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: with the mechal Like it's just waiting its turn. And 223 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: that's how I feel about the Beckhams. I'm saving it. 224 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil it. I'm not listening to 225 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: anything about it. It's like the best piece of like cake. 226 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: That's like I'm taking it out of the fridge. I 227 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: wanted to get to room temperature. It's gonna glisten and 228 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: then I'm going to take small bites. I don't want 229 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: to devour it. I don't want to binge it. I 230 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: don't want it to be over quickly. I don't like that. 231 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: I don't like when a good story or a good 232 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: show is over quickly. I don't like when, like someone 233 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: I know is like, oh my god, and I have 234 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: a story about this person, but I'm like, no, hold on, 235 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: where were you sitting? 236 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: What were you wearing? What did you order? Like? 237 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: I because I wanted to go slow. I don't want 238 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: it to burn. I like thinks slow. So I will 239 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: watch the Beckham thing like one minute at a time. 240 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: I love saving, I'm savoring. I'm obsessed. Loved him waiting 241 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: online to meet the Queen. Loved that she fucking looks 242 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: like she's made of ice and doesn't give a good fuck. 243 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: But like waited like another silent assassin, My silent assassins. 244 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: Nikki Hilton, Princess Kate Anna Winter is the head, the 245 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: hbic and silent assassin. I always want to call her 246 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: pascous spice. It's not a diss, it's how I think 247 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: of her. N Victoria Beckham. I've warned her dresses a 248 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: million times, live for it, and I'm all you know, 249 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: am as a fucking sound assassin too. 250 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: I'm waiting. 251 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed Kim forty five minutes late fashion Week. Interesting 252 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: that shows will not that shows will wait and they 253 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: get mad and Anna Winter doesn't like it, and that 254 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: she's always early. I respect that, I think for her, 255 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: like it'll fuck up her whole day of Dominoes in 256 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: fashion week, and that makes sense, Like so she could 257 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: be really aggravated, but you have to. 258 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: You saw Anna ice Kim out. 259 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: Because of the tardiness, and you kind of gotta respect 260 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: Anna Wintour being the HBI c Oh, that's what. 261 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, she and Martha. 262 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: She's the hbic of all hbics. She is the head 263 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: bitch and charge. And I have now decided. I'm sure 264 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: I've hated on the Mecallen pass. I don't even know why. 265 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: I mean, hate on everything. If you're gonna hate on that, 266 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: it's all the same shit, like everything all a. Fashion 267 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: Week has become marketing and social media and young influencers 268 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: and who cares? Don't hate the player, hate the game. 269 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: I want to go to the met Gala. I don't 270 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: think I'll ever get invited, and I don't know why. 271 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: Is it because I go to TJ Max because Anna 272 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: Wintur says that things that end up like she said 273 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: Cerullian Blue, like goes down the chain. 274 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: And I understand. 275 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: I think I dress well when I want to, and 276 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: I think I have good taste, and I think it's 277 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: nice that I dress not for pretense for who I 278 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: really am. And I think, like you know, I recite, 279 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: I upcycle clothes and I'll wear something again, and I'm 280 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: not about like putting on the whole head to toe 281 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: logo of something, which I know designers hate. And Tom 282 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: Ford has said that he hates when someone wears like 283 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: his clothes the way it was on the runway, Like 284 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: he appreciates more creativity and a lot of looks are 285 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: inspired by like hipster on the street fashion. And I 286 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: kind of do what I want. I don't beat to 287 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: anyone's drum. I've never had stylist. I pulled something out 288 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: of my own closet when I went to the Emmys. 289 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: I don't. 290 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: I also don't borrow, and I would think Anna Winter 291 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: would like that. I don't borrow. I find it grabby 292 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: like cal Can. I borrow it the thing and they'll 293 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: give it back like what I'm a boss bitch, I'm 294 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: an HBI see like Anna Winter, you know what I do. 295 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: And ask Fernando from Oscar to Lorenta because he always says, 296 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: if you're going to that and you want to borrow something, 297 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: I'll give it to you. I do it with Nikki 298 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: all the time, and I'm like, I don't fucking borrow, bitch, 299 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: I'll I don't test drive men I want to buy, 300 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: and I don't test drive clothes, so I buy my 301 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: own shit. 302 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: So yes. 303 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: Exception, Andy Cohinms supposed to get a Lifetime Achievement Award 304 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: from MTV and so at the last minute, I guess 305 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: he said no where he couldn't go, and so they 306 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: gave the god damn trophy to me, the popcorn thing, 307 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: which is hysterical because Andy like thought that was a 308 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: big smoking gun, so did Teddy and Tamra, and I 309 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: was like, who gives a fuck? All these awards are bought, 310 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: and your Walk of Fame store, Andy is purchased, and 311 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: so it's all bought. So what do I care you 312 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: calling me? I get to go on stage and give 313 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: a fake speech about a fake award and get attention 314 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: of a reason of makeup. Count me fucking in raise 315 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: my hand. So that was last minute. So and that 316 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: was my exception that I called Fernando and he let 317 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: me borrow a red dress that I wore, but it 318 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: wasn't a dress that I would want, And if I 319 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: wanted it, I would have said can I buy it after? 320 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: Because I'm not looking to test drive and not buy. 321 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm not looking to fuck you and then you're gonna 322 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: leave the next day like you're gonna want Moist's moving 323 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: will be in the driveway. So if there's a dress 324 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: that I want to borrow, which I never ever do 325 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: except for that exception, I would want to know that 326 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: then I could buy it because I don't want to 327 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: put it on and have to take it off. 328 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: And a same thing. It's why I don't barrow jewelry. 329 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: Bar jewelry. 330 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: It's gonna cost me one hundred thousand dollars and I mean, 331 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: I'll be like, Paul, please can I have it? 332 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: So I buy. 333 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: I would think Ada Winter would respect that I'm putting 334 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: money into the fashion machine at all levels. I run 335 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: the gamut from air mes priceless pieces down to fucking 336 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: the dollar store, and I've bought stuff at the seven 337 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: dollars store next to my own apartment. For that reason, 338 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: I should. I want a lobby, and I want want 339 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: to go to the met gala because I want to know. 340 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: That I could land it. 341 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: I seek approval. I care less about going inside. If 342 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: I go inside, I don't need to sit with celebrities. 343 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: I'd like to sit with executives. I'd like to sit 344 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: with people like Ted Sarandos, like an Elon Musk type, 345 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: like a Mark Zuckerberg type. He probably wouldn't go, But 346 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: like you know, leaders of industry, I don't need to 347 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: sit next to, you know, celebrities. It's not interesting to me. 348 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: I'd like or I'd like to sit next to on 349 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: a win tour. I mean, I'll tell I would take that. 350 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure that you know no one wants to do that. Well, 351 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: so my goals are lofty. I want to be next 352 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: to powering power machines or film philanthropists, and I want 353 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: to stick the landing with the red carpet. I think 354 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: I could do it. I know, I think I think 355 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: I know who my glam team would be. I'm not 356 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: yet sure what I would wear. I wouldn't try to 357 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: hit a fucking home run because I'm not gonna go 358 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: and wear like a leaning Tower of Pisa or giant 359 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: like you know, Lady Gaga. I would know my place 360 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: as on the very bottom of that list. But the 361 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: way that I made it onto the Forbes List top 362 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: hundred I was. I think I was a hundredth maybe 363 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: ninety nine, but I was on the cover. But I 364 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: fucking made it, I didn't. 365 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 2: A win is a win. A win is a win. 366 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: So if I got in there, I would dress for 367 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: my stage in that place, but I could fucking nail it. 368 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: So I want to go. 369 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: To the Mecgala. I've decided, and I've done three hundred 370 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: million dollars in relief work. I am about to change 371 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: the entertainment industry forever in a way that I would 372 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: think someone like goin a Wintour who's secretly or probably 373 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: not so secretly in her circle, despises reality TV. She's 374 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: no dumb dumb and she cashed the Kim and Kanye check. 375 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: But I say what I said. Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner, 376 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: everybody thinks they're an expert on it, and everyone says 377 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: that the Queen of the North is winning and his 378 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: pr machine placed a lot of things. Divorce is a 379 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: long game. Sadly, they have been burned and they have 380 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: quickly learned that you cannot fuck around with the tides. 381 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: You cannot fuck around the ocean, and the media is 382 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: the ocean, and it will drown you and you just 383 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: have to roll with it. But you don't ever really 384 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: know what's going on in a divorce. 385 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 2: You don't know. 386 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: We didn't know what was going on with Kelly Rutherford, 387 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: the Mom and Gossip Girl, because we thought that the 388 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: man was a villain and he did something wrong and 389 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: they got divorced, and then all of a sudden she 390 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: loses custody of her kids. Now I have no idea 391 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: who's right and who's wrong. It doesn't matter. It means 392 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: it's a long road. One person may choose to speak, 393 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: the other person's team may say, do not say a 394 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: goddamn word, and then you know, maybe the pendulum swings 395 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: in their favor or the opposite, you know, like if 396 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: you're a Chris Humphreys and Kim Kardashian and you're breaking up. 397 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: Her machine was ready early and more powerful back in 398 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:09,479 Speaker 1: the day when everybody wasn't as media savvy, and you know, 399 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: she got ahead of it like it is a game 400 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: and a dance, but you just don't really know what's 401 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: going on behind closed doors. You cannot possibly know, and 402 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: even her friends and his friends can't possibly know. Everybody's 403 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: playing fifty percent for the most part, in most situations 404 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: short of illegal activity, short of stalking and harassment and 405 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: things that are really problematic. But for the most part, 406 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: most therapists think that most divorces are garden variety. Most 407 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: divorces not. You know, Kelly Clarkson did not have a 408 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: garden variety divorce. From what I understand, I can Tina 409 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: Turner did not have a garden variety divorce. I did 410 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: not have a garden variety divorce. And every divorce is painful, 411 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: and every divorce is horrible and like a death. But divorce, 412 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: by nature is hard, and it's hard to know if 413 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: two people are decent human beings, if there's really anyone 414 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: wrong right, it's not possible for us to discern what's 415 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: going on behind closed doors in a divorce. There's just 416 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: no way. 417 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: You gotta let the whole thing play out. 418 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: Later on, the truth comes out, and the villain's not 419 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: always who you think the villain is.