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Speaker 2: Welcome to a special edition of No Dunk's podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm Lei Ellis.

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Speaker 2: Today we're going a long way from the basketball court

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Speaker 2: and heading to the cricket pitch, as I'll be talking

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Speaker 2: to a man who is my himself, known for the

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Speaker 2: hours and hours of joy he's bringing to cricket fans

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Speaker 2: around the world. He's been doing it for years, but

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Speaker 2: most recently during the coronavirus. His services are in demand

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Speaker 2: now more than ever. He boast a collection of more

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Speaker 2: than twenty five thousand cricket videos and DVDs, and it

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Speaker 2: was only a day or so ago he was quote

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Speaker 2: tweeted himself by the great man Shane warn he is

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Speaker 2: Rob Moody.

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Speaker 3: Rob, how are you, man?

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Speaker 4: I'm very good. How you guys going very very well?

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Speaker 3: Thanks? Man?

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Speaker 2: First off, how cool is it to have Shane Keith

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Speaker 2: Warn retweeting some of the stuff you're putting out there

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Speaker 2: on Twitter?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's pretty cool. Even last night, I've tried to

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Speaker 4: and Habajan Singh and other Pakistan players because I uploaded

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Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden it just goes viral.

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Speaker 4: And so yeah, it's pretty funny that even the test

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Speaker 4: players and ex players, they're also in locker down, so

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Speaker 4: where do they go? Straight to social media?

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Speaker 2: And everyone certainly loves seeing highlights of themselves doing something

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Speaker 2: pretty special out there too, So I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: that's why you're getting these guys retweeting you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm always surprised that most of the former

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Speaker 4: players don't have the videos of themselves from matches they play,

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Speaker 4: and so they're surprised when they go on to social

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Speaker 2: Are any of them sending you any direct messages? Trying

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's happened pretty regularly over the years, more so lately.

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Speaker 4: But they also know what the fans want to see,

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Speaker 4: you know, from their own careers. You know, I've been

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Speaker 4: asked so many times for you know, Glenn Maxwell's test

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now I read that you've been recording you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, when we were when I was

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of where you are a guest today,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you just find that stuff. And the things you

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Speaker 2: the crowd.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, especially from about the halfway point him and Jeff

435
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 4: Marsh just decided to go for it, you know, and

436
00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 4: even Marsh was hitting sixers. But yeah, that was Yeah,

437
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 4: that's definitely one of the best iconic run scoring games

438
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 4: in Ossie Ozzie Wan Day cricket in this country because

439
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 4: it just looks so clean and fast, you know. And

440
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 4: also the other thing that people don't often talk about

441
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 4: is the picture quality actually improved as what was that

442
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: was the nineties. Yeah, you know, the camera quality improved,

443
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 4: so the coverage improved and you can see the ball

444
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 4: all bit clearer. And you know, if you look at

445
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 4: the mid eighties, it's pretty hard to see even the

446
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 4: white ball in some of the games. I forget the tests.

447
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 4: So that that was the other cool thing with the

448
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 4: in the early nineties was the coverage getting better and clearer.

449
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 4: It still looks clear to this day and you can

450
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 4: see that white balls fly, which is absolutely cool, and

451
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 4: just race along the ground.

452
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Speaker 3: You know.

453
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Speaker 2: The other part what I like, it's not just the

454
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Speaker 2: sixers and the catchers and the wickets. It's some of

455
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Speaker 2: the stuff that you don't sort of remember or you've

456
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Speaker 2: compiled them yourselves.

457
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Speaker 3: You know.

458
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: One of them is the Glenn McGrath every four that

459
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Speaker 2: he's ever hit in Test cricket. But I think my

460
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 2: favorite one and I couldn't believe it. I was looking

461
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 2: at this last night. There is twenty three minutes of

462
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 2: inzamam or huk funny runouts. I mean, how do you

463
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 2: compile twenty three minutes of one guy having funny runouts

464
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 2: not just like runouts, but like goofy ones where he's

465
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: you know, he either just stops and falls over. I

466
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: think that's at the ninety nine World Cup. And then

467
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Speaker 2: there's other times where he's sort of just he's running

468
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Speaker 2: and then he just stops, and then he just starts

469
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Speaker 2: walking off. I mean, like, when did you sort of

470
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Speaker 2: see a theme there?

471
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Speaker 4: Well, everyone knew for years and that he was so

472
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Speaker 4: bad either running himself out or particularly running his teammates out.

473
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Speaker 4: And you hear it in the commentary, even in that video,

474
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Speaker 4: you hear it. It's like, you know, Ian Chapaul's on

475
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 4: any matter of time with Inzemam, you know, and they

476
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 4: already knew after a few years he was so bad,

477
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 4: and people kept asking, mate, you got to do an

478
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Speaker 4: INTERNELM compilation. I was like, oh, it's gonna take forever.

479
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,239
Speaker 4: And it did take forever. And the funny thing was

480
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 4: I didn't need to find the funny ones. Every runout

481
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 4: was funny. They're all funny, right, Yeah, And in the

482
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 4: end I actually had to stop because it was taken

483
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 4: too long, and there was about ten that I missed

484
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 4: out on and I just left it at twenty three minutes,

485
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 4: which is which is crazy. But yeah, that's funny.

486
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Speaker 2: That one where he just sort of falls over, he

487
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Speaker 2: hits it and then he just falls. Yeah, I think

488
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: that was I think I was at that game. It

489
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 2: was out headingly in the ninety nine World Cup.

490
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Speaker 4: Yep, that's the one.

491
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I remember because I was there with

492
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Speaker 2: some friends and I was like we we just couldn't

493
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: believe what had happened. It's like this guy just like

494
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 2: you just fell over? How do you just fall over?

495
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 4: It was pretty funny. Well, that was the funniest part

496
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 4: of that game, was from memory. Australia lost that match.

497
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we did, We did.

498
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: Mowen can't I remember Mowen can hit. I think he

499
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: hit Glenn mcgrah in the last three overs, like for

500
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: thirty five runs or something like that.

501
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 4: It was.

502
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: It was actually a really it was a really good game,

503
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 2: really good atmosphere.

504
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 3: But yeah Australia.

505
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 2: Australia lost that one, but they made up for it

506
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 2: anyway in the in the end there in the end. Yeah,

507
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: So what you know now? You know, because I know

508
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: in the last couple of weeks, especially since we've all

509
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: been in quarantine here, you've been getting tons of requests

510
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: on Twitter. You know, what is the what is the

511
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: most requested? Is there one that people just keep on

512
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: asking for that. You know, you've probably tweeted out, you know,

513
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: dozens of times people keep wanting to see one particular clip.

514
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Speaker 4: No, really, it's it's more of a just a bunch

515
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 4: of stuff. I mean, people like Wow, Indians love to

516
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 4: ask for the Tan Duka l W and adelaide Off

517
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 4: McGrath in ninety nine. But yeah, that's all over YouTube anyway.

518
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 4: But for some reason people want to see the stuff

519
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 4: on Twitter, which yeah, which is a big surprise to me.

520
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 4: I mean I've always posted clips to Twitter every now

521
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 4: and again just what it can be bothered. But the

522
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 4: response there is is way better than on YouTube, which

523
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 4: I'm not quite sure why, but yeah, I can't put

524
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 4: my finger on it.

525
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: But I guess it's it's easier for people to consume

526
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 2: on Twitter. And then you know, when you see you know,

527
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: Shane Warner. I saw Shane Warner then Mark wah was

528
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: talking back to him about that clip we talked about

529
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 2: off the top of the show there the LBW in India.

530
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, when you've got when you've got

531
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: those guys there talking with each other, I mean, it

532
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: just gives such credibility to everything that you're doing and

533
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 2: you know, people that's I guess people now see you

534
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 2: as the as the archive that they can go to

535
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: and request whatever they want.

536
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 4: It's pretty funny. I mean that that particular interaction made

537
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 4: it into the news in India and there's a video

538
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 4: up of a news report which highlights my tweet, you know,

539
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 4: on the on the vision and and I'm thinking, oh, no,

540
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 4: this is this is a game be the end the

541
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 4: and for Rob.

542
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean because I thought about that as well,

543
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: because he's clearly out. It's it's no doubt that he's

544
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: out in that and that that was a huge blow

545
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 2: for austraight because he went on to make one hundred

546
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 2: and fifty five in that particular innings and we lost

547
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: that series too. I think was that the first Test

548
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: as well.

549
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 4: I believe it was first Test. He was at chippy

550
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: in the first innings and everything was going well and

551
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 4: everything didn't go well after that.

552
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: We didn't have we didn't have McGrath or Gillespie though

553
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: in that in that series.

554
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 4: Correct, we had, Yeah, we had in the first Test.

555
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: It was Mike Caspwitz and poor Rifle and then Paul

556
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 4: Wilson came in after that Adam Dale so was nowhere

557
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 4: near best attack. But we had a McGrath and Shane

558
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 4: Warner both had a year two years a pretty much

559
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: non stop up to that point, I mean, because we

560
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 4: had the ashes the year before in England and the

561
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 4: tourist Africa and it was just heaps of cricket, NonStop,

562
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 4: big summer at home against West Indies, sorry, against New

563
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 4: Zealand and South Africa and it was pretty much NonStop.

564
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 4: But by the time it got to the end of

565
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 4: that ninety seven ninety eight season, yeah, balls were struggling.

566
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 4: Andy Bigger was injured as well, Glospier was injured, McGrath

567
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 4: was injured, she went back from injury. We had to

568
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 4: pick Gavin Robertson, you know, and you know.

569
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Speaker 2: And he made it, didn't He make a fifty as

570
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: well in that in that Test, I.

571
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Speaker 4: Think, and his first innings in the first Test. Yeah,

572
00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 4: he made a fifty and got four wickets. Yeah and yeah,

573
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 4: we all said Colin Miller on the sideline, so soon yanky, yeah,

574
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 4: so became really really good. Yeah, but yeah, we're Yeah,

575
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 4: that series was a was a tough one, but yeah,

576
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 4: no different to the many overseas teams that have come

577
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 4: to our country and just had injuries galore. Yes, you know,

578
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 4: I mean in England ninety four to five ashes, I

579
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 4: think they had these twenty one players or something that

580
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 4: just went down, you know. Yeah, the difference between the

581
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 4: First Test and the Fifth Test was chalk and cheese

582
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 4: with the players they were using. So it happens to everyone,

583
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 4: you know, oh yeah, especially away tours, which is happens

584
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Speaker 4: all the.

585
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Speaker 2: Time, well meant mentally. I mean, you know, when you're

586
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Speaker 2: on the road for maybe you know, two months at

587
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Speaker 2: a time. I mean, that's that's got to be tough

588
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: on players to you know, when they're missing their families

589
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: and things like that. I mean, I think when you

590
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: compare it to other sports, nobody spends as much time

591
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: in a different country, you know, away from their family

592
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: as cricket as it's it's got to be.

593
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: It's got to be tough on a lot of them.

594
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I saw I remember, I think it was

595
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: Marcus Trescothic from England. You know, he sort of left

596
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: the Australian tour and so did somebody else. I remember

597
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: in about two thousand and six, two thousand and seven.

598
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 4: Yes, Thorpe left a series after the first Test in

599
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 4: the nine I was a mix of injury and homesickness. Yeah,

600
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 4: obviously there was a bunch of guys in the twenty

601
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 4: thirteen to fourteen were Trot and Swan and prior or

602
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: retiring mid series, which is weird. Yeah, but yeah. Trus

603
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 4: Gothic was in two thousand and two played the first Tests.

604
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 4: Actually now that was twenty that was two thousand and six.

605
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 4: Actually that was because he he went home before the

606
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 4: first Test. He trained, did the tour match and then

607
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 4: went home. Yeah.

608
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to I want to play a little

609
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: game with you now too, Rob. So what I'm going

610
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 2: to do It's called what you got.

611
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 4: What's good?

612
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: So I'm going to give you two I'm going to

613
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: give you two choices and you have to pick whichever

614
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: one you know you think is the winner, the better one. Okay, okay,

615
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: first one, the cleanest six. We talked about it already,

616
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 2: Dean Jones off Martin Bickmill versus England, the one that

617
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: just reached out and catch at Jeffrey or Mark Wall

618
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: versus New Zealand in nineteen ninety seven at Perth, that

619
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: basically goes on the roof of the might be the

620
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: members stand.

621
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I reckon Mark Will had less pace to

622
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 4: work with and was pretty big six, So I'm going

623
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 4: to go I'm going.

624
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: To go with that one Mark Will. Yeah.

625
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: I think they actually have to get a new ball

626
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: out after that. They bring out one of those ones

627
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: that's got about, you know, thirty overs worth of the

628
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: birth of use on it because no one could get

629
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: up there and get it off the.

630
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 3: Off the roof.

631
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Speaker 2: All right, the second one better or bigger innings vvs.

632
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: Laxman's two hundred and eighty one at Calcutta two thousand

633
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: and one or Brian Lara's two hundred and thirteen at

634
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: Jamaica in ninety nine.

635
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a tough one. Both innings were under the

636
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 4: pump and both won the match and series. I think

637
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 4: I'll go with Laxman, Yeah, just because he was so

638
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 4: far behind in the game so far.

639
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: They were like three fo one hundred and ten I

640
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: think in that second innings and Tendulka went out maybe

641
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: LB to McGrath, and it was kind of it was

642
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: kind of assumed that Australia were about to win not

643
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: only that Test but the series and keep their streak alive.

644
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: At that time because they had won sixteen in a

645
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: row and then Laxman just it was just incredible.

646
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 3: Yeah that. I remember watching that with friends and we

647
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 3: were just like.

648
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: This, this is unbelieve because he made sixty in the

649
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: first innings I think, and then and that two hundred

650
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: and eighty. I mean, he just he just didn't play

651
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: a bad stroke at all.

652
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was pretty crazy. Yeah, yeah, I remember. Actually

653
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 4: my wife had glandela fever at the time. She was

654
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 4: out of action for about eight weeks and it was

655
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 4: exactly the timeframe of the Indian series. So I sat

656
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 4: a home looking out after her the whole time and

657
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 4: just thinking, well, this is great. You know, Glance live

658
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 4: in the house like Smith and Drava smashing us. We lose,

659
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 4: this is great. Yeh Did I say, yeah?

660
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 3: That was.

661
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah that Brian Lara two hundred and thirteen though, just

662
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: quickly on that. I mean that saved that series for

663
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: the West Indies too, because if he doesn't make it

664
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 2: in that then Australia almost certainly win Go two up

665
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: in that series and it's a dead series. But he

666
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: hit one hundred and fifty in that series. He had

667
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 2: another one hundred and thirty eight as well. That was

668
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: one of the best series I've ever seen, even though

669
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: it was two two in the end, but you know,

670
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 2: just seeing Lara when he virtually at that point already

671
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: the West Indies just didn't have anyone. They that dominant

672
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: era was well and truly on its way out. But

673
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: Lara was just just incredible.

674
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 4: It was awesome. Mean, you couldn't believe it. And I'd

675
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 4: wake up because those matches started midnight Australian time and

676
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 4: they go to sort of seven am eight am, and

677
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 4: I just I remember very clearly with the two thirteen.

678
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 4: I fell asleep around two am, and I woke up

679
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 4: about three and I thought, oh, Lara's still in, went

680
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 4: back to bed, woke up again about five and I'm like,

681
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 4: he's still in. And then I woke up at the

682
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 4: end of the day's play. I was like, we still

683
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 4: got no wickets. It's still four down and Jimmy Adams

684
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 4: was on about seventy or eighty and Lara's on the

685
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 4: swe hundred and I thought, oh no, this is not happening.

686
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: Well, Lara as well, on that inning when he was

687
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: on ninety nine, he took a risky single and was

688
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: so close to being run out because the all the

689
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: fans ran out into the ground, but no one knew

690
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: if you was in or out. But luckily he you know,

691
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: for him and that series he was, he was safe.

692
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 2: But it was very close, all right. Number three here

693
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: a better over. We got Andrew flint Off to Ricky

694
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: pont at edge Baston in two thousand and five, or

695
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 2: was in akram at the ninety two World Cup when

696
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: he got out Alan Lamb and Chris Lewis.

697
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 4: Well, the World Cup over was pretty pretty epic. The

698
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 4: Flintoff has a bit of a history of creating pretty

699
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 4: amazing over was one of the callous as well, and

700
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 4: the Ponting one was pretty It was pretty epig again,

701
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 4: the one of the most iconic series ever. You know, yes,

702
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 4: I think history look at the ninety two to one

703
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 4: being the being the most famous. But I only go

704
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 4: with Flintoff just because the the home crowd would going

705
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 4: nuts and even though there were heaps of Pakistan supporters

706
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 4: at the MCG that Ponting over and just that whole

707
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 4: game was insane.

708
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that series was amazing and the thing

709
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: I liked about that with Andrew Flintoff and five Michael

710
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: Vaughan basically just said sort of like what Javid min

711
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: Dad said doing and recount just just go into just

712
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: bowl as fast as you can. And because he got

713
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: justin Langer with I think the second ball that over,

714
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 2: and then every ball to Ponting including the.

715
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 3: No ball, you know, Ponting looked.

716
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: Like he was a scrub out there and it was

717
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 2: just he could have been out l BW almost first ball,

718
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: and then he gets bad on one that goes to slip,

719
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: and then and the one that gets him out.

720
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a perfect, perfect delivery.

721
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 4: It's just crazy. And when you see that now you think,

722
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 4: man flint off, he must average like twenty two or

723
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 4: twenty three with the ball. And you see his record

724
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 4: and you think, what it's pretty It's not certainly not

725
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 4: bad by any means, but for the amount of match

726
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 4: turning moments he was capable of and renout for in

727
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 4: his career, his record should be a whole lot better

728
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 4: because we saw him bowl from that series onwards and

729
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 4: every time even the next ashes in Australia and the

730
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 4: next one in England and two thousand and nine he

731
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 4: bossed every time he bowled. You know, he looks awesome,

732
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 4: never got hit around, and then you think, man, how's

733
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 4: this guy stillurging thirty two or thirty three with the ball?

734
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 4: You know that's crazy, but yeah, yeah, I think even

735
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 4: the English fans can answer that. But I guess in

736
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 4: an all round package, you know, you hope that you

737
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 4: have an all round up, much like you know, both

738
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 4: of them. Stats aren't mind blowing either, but when you

739
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 4: can turn a match with bat or ball, those are

740
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 4: things that you hope you're all around it can pull off,

741
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 4: you know. And I'm sure English fans don't care about

742
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 4: his average when he when they think about what he

743
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 4: achieved in in those particular two ashes series and five

744
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 4: and nine, which was just awesome.

745
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was definitely an impact player, but the longevity

746
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: just wasn't really there for his career. But you know,

747
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: he was a bigger guy as well, and I think

748
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 2: those injuries caught up with him a little bit later.

749
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up being both of them though,

750
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: because he's one of the options in this next one

751
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: here who had who had more arrogance mainly as a

752
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: batsman ian both of them or Viv Richards.

753
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 4: Vi Riches any day.

754
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, because with both of them, the famous Vi

755
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 5: Richard swagger, I mean, bowlers would think that they had

756
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 5: a plan.

757
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 4: And it didn't work. With both of them, you knew

758
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 4: that he didn't have immense amount of patience, didn't have

759
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 4: the technique that Viv had. Obviously, you know, Viv averaged fifty,

760
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 4: but both of them obviously on his day could go nuts.

761
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 4: But we've had more days where he did much more,

762
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 4: bigger things. And yeah, I think with both of you

763
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 4: knew that balls knew that if you could keep it tight,

764
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 4: you know, he'd eventually nick one or as Viv, you'd

765
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 4: just be hoping, like hell that Yeah, he just didn't

766
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 4: get going because he was just unstoppable.

767
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: He tortured us in the eighties. I mean like anytime

768
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: he battered, you just felt that he could just swagger

769
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: his way to eighty without even really trying, you know,

770
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: no helmet, you know, murv Hughes would come in with

771
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: his trying to you know, trying to intimidate him, and

772
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: Viv would just hit him all around the park without

773
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: even barely making that much effort, you know, and then

774
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: he'd just sort of you'd have the collar there and

775
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: he'd be doing a bit of gardening on the pitch

776
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: and it was just like this guy is just incredible.

777
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 2: He just doesn't he just knows how good he is

778
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: and he's not scared of anyone or anything.

779
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 4: It's pretty crazy. And one of the bizarre stats with

780
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 4: Vi Richards that he only actually had one match win

781
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 4: in Test hundred in Australia, which is exactly the same

782
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 4: as Lara. Yeah, only one. Viv's other two hundreds in

783
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 4: Australia which he only had three three in Test cricket

784
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 4: in Australia. The other two were in draws. Save with Lara,

785
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 4: Aloa only had one innings in Australia where it was

786
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 4: was in a win a Test when that was in

787
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 4: ninety six ninety seven. But with Viv it was more

788
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 4: than that. It was it was all the One Day

789
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 4: Series which Westynys seemed to come here every year, was

790
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 4: so unfair in the end, I mean, it just couldn't

791
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 4: believe it. And when he did hit an eighty, you

792
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 4: know at the Gabriel or the Whack or something, it

793
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 4: was news, you know, because people didn't score centuries all

794
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 4: the time in the one days back then, you know,

795
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 4: so and yeah Berfoot hit three or four fours and

796
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 4: that was news for the weekend. He just wanted to

797
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 4: see those four fours again.

798
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: But you know, they just that the West Indies had

799
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 2: such coolness to them as well. You know, they turned

800
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 2: up and they just the way they walked and talked,

801
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 2: and then they went out and again they just brutalized

802
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: Australia throughout throughout the eighties. I mean everyone kind of did, though,

803
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: Like Australia weren't very good in the eighties at all.

804
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: I remember, you know a series again New Zealand about

805
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: eighty four eighty five, like that was one where we

806
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 2: had to win, you know, because it was like we've

807
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: got to at least be able to beat New Zealand.

808
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we didn't.

809
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 3: We didn't, Yeah, we didn't. But that was at least

810
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 3: that was like.

811
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: A struggle for us then because it felt remember England

812
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: in eighty six eighty seven, like they what was that

813
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: series score?

814
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: I know that they won that one three to one.

815
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: Three to one, yeah, and that was you know, pretty

816
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: comfortable as well. So it was so tough for Australia

817
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: just to get any sort of victory. And then not

818
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 2: only that, you know, Viv and Curtly Ambrose and Michael Holding,

819
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 2: and they were all just so cool as well. It

820
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: was like, man, these guys are just they're perfect. You know,

821
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: they're way way better than way better than us a

822
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:43,959
Speaker 2: cricket and way cooler than us as well.

823
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 4: Definitely cool. There was something I found out just the

824
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 4: other day which I did not know, and I can't

825
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,479
Speaker 4: believe I didn't know. Austraight tough was Dinny's in eighty

826
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 4: four for a Test series, and we were next you

827
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 4: to go there in eighty eight, which would have meant

828
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 4: going there in me eighty eight and then facing them

829
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 4: again a home in the eighty nine summer. And I

830
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 4: only found out that the Strain Cricket Board lobbied to

831
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 4: cancel that mid eighty eight series because they didn't want

832
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 4: to repeat of eighty four where we played ten Tests

833
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 4: in a row against West Indies and obviously got smashed.

834
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 4: And Bob Simpson had taken over as coach by then,

835
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 4: obviously in eighty five eighty six, so he lobbied apparently

836
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 4: to get that series scrapped and save it for the

837
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 4: next time we would do to go there, which was

838
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 4: ninety one, So that could have been they could have

839
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 4: made a big difference to whether we won the eighty

840
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 4: nine Ashes or not if we had just played West

841
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 4: Indies for ten Tests in a row and obviously got smashed.

842
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 4: So yeah, I actually, yeah, I think that's amazing if

843
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: that actually is true that you know, I think I

844
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 4: read the official line from Cricket Australia is that the

845
00:43:55,320 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 4: West Dindies board canceled it. But yeah, whatever, but I

846
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 4: Be's marriage.

847
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: Those days are so long gone now though, I mean

848
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: we you know, Australia hasn't played the West Indies in

849
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 2: Australia since two thousand, have they?

850
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 4: Is that right? We last played West Indies in Australia

851
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 4: when Adam Voges's got the massive two hundred, which was

852
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 4: twenty fifteen sixteen season. Yeah right. We played the min

853
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 4: Australia in two thousand and five or six where Mike

854
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 4: Cussy and Brad Hodge debuted, and then again in two nine,

855
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 4: twenty ten and yeah, and then twenty fifteen sixteen where

856
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 4: Voges came on the scene. It was just making double

857
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 4: hundreds for Fine against everyone. Yeah.

858
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I've been living overseas. I've been living in

859
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: North America for nearly fifteen years now. So I have

860
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: lost a little bit of touch with the cricket from there,

861
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: but it just doesn't have that same appeal anyway though.

862
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 2: You know when you know, because like you go down

863
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: the line of players, you know, Jeffrey Doujon and Malcolm

864
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: Marshall and Gus Logi and Larry Gomes, you know, all

865
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 2: those guys, they were all just so Woden Greenwich and

866
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: Desmond Haynes. I mean, they were just household names to everybody.

867
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were iconic. I mean I was just remembering

868
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: the other day that in twenty ninety ten West Indy's

869
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 4: played a young opening batsman who made a century on

870
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 4: debut and virtually never played again, Adrian Barrath, and he

871
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 4: was like nineteen, I think it was eighteen at the time,

872
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 4: and everyone was thinking, wow, finally a West Indy star

873
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 4: who's young. Next c and O twos letter is gone.

874
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 4: So definitely the player recognition has definitely dipped obviously a lot.

875
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 4: I mean these days people can't believe that the worst

876
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 4: Dinies were at what they were successful at all because

877
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 4: you just can't see it. There's literally no there's nothing

878
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 4: there that you see in their play that you can

879
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 4: see that they were ever you know a team that

880
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 4: could get anywhere near number one, let alone sustain it

881
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 4: for twenty years. Yeah, it's unbelievable.

882
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 2: So that's the last, the last what you got there.

883
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 2: I want to ask you what was Australia's biggest test win.

884
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: I think I'm pretty sure I know where you're going

885
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 2: to go here, but I'll ask it anyway. The eighty

886
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: nine Ashes which was four nil to Australia, or the

887
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: ninety five two to one West Indies series.

888
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, ninety five for sure, you could just CeNSE it.

889
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 4: I mean when Steve aug got the two hundred, it

890
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 4: was just insane. The whole country was just like you know,

891
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 4: from my generation, I never saw us beat them ever.

892
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 4: I mean the last time we beat the West Indies

893
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 4: before that was seventy five, seventy six, I mean before

894
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 4: either of us were born. So I literally grew up

895
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 4: just like Poms have grew up in the nineties, seeing

896
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 4: England get smashed. That's why two thousand and five was

897
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 4: so huge for us. But the difference with ninety five

898
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 4: was that you could tell this was a West Indies

899
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 4: team that was absolutely beatable, and whereas the Aussie team,

900
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 4: if they got harder to beat for a few years

901
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 4: after two thousand and five, because they were definitely keen

902
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 4: to restore some pride there was with Cindy's. They had

903
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 4: already had a few years where they were winning. I

904
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 4: mean they went to England in ninety one and drew.

905
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 4: After we played them and beat them, they went to

906
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 4: England and drew a series again, so they didn't beat England.

907
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 4: The last time they beat England in England was nineteen

908
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 4: eighty eight, So yeah, that's so they were already on

909
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 4: the way down, and they'd already lost viv and Desmond,

910
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 4: Haynes and Greenwich and Doujon and Logi and Marshall, so

911
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 4: ninety five seemed like a ripe time to beat them.

912
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 4: And they had a host of batsmen who were not

913
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 4: much good. You know, they didn't last the series. Stuart

914
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 4: Williams and Sherwan Campbell, Carl Hooper was the same random

915
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 4: batsman as he always was. Keith Arthuren did absolutely nothing.

916
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, Arthurdon had one good innings. Arthurdon had one.

917
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 2: Good innings against Australia that was in Brisbane and you

918
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 2: know hit the hundred fifty seven not out. But that

919
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: was the only time he ever made and he runs

920
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: against this. Yeah, and that that Steve War two hundred.

921
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: I believe that was one where the big the big

922
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 2: cat runs out onto the ground to congratulate it.

923
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 4: And that was like five am, six am as the time,

924
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 4: and you just thought, oh my god, this is intense.

925
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 4: I mean, Steve War of all the players, I mean,

926
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 4: of all the guys to take on the West Dinners

927
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 4: in that series. You were sure it was going to

928
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 4: be Slater or Boon, you know, they're the guys who

929
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 4: are going to do it for us. Was they both

930
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 4: had pathetic series and Steve War of all the guys.

931
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 4: You know, like two years prior to that, you're thinking, man,

932
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 4: Steve was okay, but it's still averaging early forties. But

933
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 4: then he comes out and averages one hundred in this

934
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 4: West Indie series out of nowhere, and all of a sudden,

935
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 4: number one player in the world, not Teddulka, not Lara,

936
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 4: and you thought wow, and his statue just went through

937
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 4: the roof. And Glamor Gras as well, I mean, after

938
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 4: that series, Glamor Gras, Steve wore that they was the

939
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 4: number one go and yeah, and proven as well after

940
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 4: that for the next decade they were the best.

941
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: So at one point Steve, Steve Wore and Mark Wall

942
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: were one and two in the world too.

943
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 4: I believe it wasn't longer after that series because Mark

944
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 4: Wohr had a couple of great years after that too,

945
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 4: you know, ninety six, seven, ninety eight they were great

946
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 4: for him, and so, yeah, that was a pretty awesome time.

947
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 4: We had San Juan on fire, mcgrad on fire, and

948
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 4: our backup balls were all getting pretty useful wickets two

949
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 4: rifle and Caspirit's flaming McDermott was on the way out,

950
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 4: but we didn't. We didn't miss McDermott at almost at all.

951
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: No, No, Well, Gillespie came along pretty quickly after that,

952
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 2: and I mean he was incredible. Yeah, he was incredible

953
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: in that ninety seven Ashes tour.

954
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 4: Yeah that that goes back to back tours in SAfrica

955
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 4: and England where he just looked really quick. Oh yeah, incredible.

956
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 4: And then then all of a sudden, Brett Lee comes

957
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 4: along and You're like, wow, we got some serious pace here.

958
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 4: I was scared of even watching bretley ball in the

959
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 4: first year or so of his career. In one days

960
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 4: and tests, he was absolutely just ferocious him and show

961
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 4: Abaktar it was just like wow, like this is seriously

962
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 4: just out and out, just express bowling, which is awesome.

963
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great.

964
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: It's great with you know, a show of Bacta, you know,

965
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 2: coming after Waka Unis and was in Macram. You know,

966
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: he was quicker than those guys. But he was also

967
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 2: you know, had the chains going, he had the hair going,

968
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: he had his shirt open like he was all that

969
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 2: emotion that it was so captivating to watch. I mean

970
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 2: sometimes like he would get hit for tons, but other

971
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: times you've seen him just dismantle like the wickets, you know,

972
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 2: just destroy them. I think it was against this Australia

973
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: in in In Dubai or Shaja or something like that,

974
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: where he just ruins the Australian top order where it's

975
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: just it's just out and outpace. You know, that's what

976
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: he was capable of. But he just he was just

977
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 2: inconsistent with it, I thought. But you know, the Pakistani

978
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: team a little bit like the West Indies, like they

979
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: they've always had fun players to watch, like you know,

980
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 2: sayd Awa and Akram of course a Missa Hale at

981
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: the top of the order. You know, like throughout their time,

982
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of chaos arounding the Pakistani team.

983
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: There's you know, a different coach and a different captain

984
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: every couple of weeks. But some of those guys were

985
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: just such talented cricketers. They were always so incredibly fun

986
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 2: to watch.

987
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 4: I thought, yeah, well Pakistan is Pakistan, but you never

988
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 4: quite knew who was going to you know, front up

989
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 4: when they played. But they always seem to have a

990
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 4: much more quality bowling attack with whatever series they they played,

991
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 4: and you always knew it was going to be at

992
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 4: least two of Akram or Unice or Showbaktar or even

993
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 4: the other guys Mohammed Zahid and Maham Akram. And they

994
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 4: always had just fast guys, you know, I always fast.

995
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 4: I always had good spinners, you know, but it was

996
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 4: always always the bad thing that was prone to.

997
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and fielding as well, they were. They were just

998
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: terrible in the field to drop catches and.

999
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 4: Team of phil toofnals most of the time.

1000
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: The you know, just going back to that ninety five

1001
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: West indist or I know, you know, you put it

1002
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 2: up on Twitter just a couple of weeks ago, a

1003
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: week or so ago about those those photos that they

1004
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: were selling, you know those limited edition photos I've got

1005
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 2: I've got one of those, yeah, one hundred and fifty bucks,

1006
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 2: and I got a framed and you know, it's been

1007
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 2: It was at home in Australia because you know, when

1008
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: I moved overseas, I just sort of left it. But

1009
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: then I said to Dad a few years ago, I said, Dad,

1010
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: send it over man, I've got to get it up.

1011
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: So now I'm trying to find a place here to

1012
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: put it up in my house. It doesn't mean a

1013
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: whole lot obviously to my wife and kids. They were

1014
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 2: born and raised it. Or my wife is from Peru actually,

1015
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: but you know, so crickets. Cricket's not a big thing

1016
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: here in this household. But they're going to see that

1017
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: up in the house pretty soon.

1018
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, they're for a couple of years. Well that

1019
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 4: they got old pretty quick because Tony was was selling

1020
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 4: them like you know, like the guy on TV is

1021
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 4: selling the steak knives. You know, it just it all

1022
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 4: became a bit tacky and and the fans were just

1023
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 4: cringing over some of the h and some of the

1024
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 4: ones that were selling weren't even crickets.

1025
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, that's the thing, because I think that

1026
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 2: I think the Warpath one was like, you know, the

1027
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: second or third one that they had, and they were

1028
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: still kind of unique. But then then you're right, they

1029
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: just started then like Mark Taylor hits a hundred, like

1030
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: let's you know, against someone in Sydney, and it's like, well,

1031
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 2: that doesn't really mean anything. You know that the first

1032
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 2: couple actually had some meaning behind them. Yeah, but I

1033
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,919
Speaker 2: guess they sold. They sold well enough that they thought,

1034
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 2: you know, let's just let's just start pumping them out now,

1035
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: and until it was as long as people keep buying them.

1036
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, And after that they started doing bats that were

1037
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 4: just randomly signed without a whole lot of context, like

1038
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 4: a captain's bat or something, and he thought a couple

1039
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 4: of man like captain's bat. Really, I mean, it's okay,

1040
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 4: but they were just trying to count with any way

1041
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 4: they could just put whatever signatures onto bats. And yeah,

1042
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 4: thankfully it all sort of ended for a couple of

1043
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 4: years because it and the prices went up too. If

1044
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 4: they won one hundred and fifty bucks, after a couple

1045
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 4: of years there was like five hundred, one thousand dollars.

1046
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 4: Livertagh To fifty two thousand. It was like, come on, Tony,

1047
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 4: wind it up, pal.

1048
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 2: Well, this has been awesome, Rob, has been a lot

1049
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 2: of fun talking to you. I really enjoy all the

1050
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: work you've been doing. So, just in case people don't

1051
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: know where to follow you, you're on Twitter at Ruberlinda

1052
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 2: two correct and has that across all social media products

1053
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 2: Facebook and yeah great, okay, well yeah, man, keep it up.

1054
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: You're certainly keeping people entertained. And I'll leave you with

1055
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: this one to see if he can find it. I

1056
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 2: tweeted you you've been You've got a ton of a

1057
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 2: ton of requests coming through. It's Joe Angel against Richie

1058
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 2: Richardson at Perth in ninety three. He tries to send

1059
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 2: him in a bouncer and Richie Richie puts him about

1060
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: twenty five rows back.

1061
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 3: I think he hooks him. He hooks him over there.

1062
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 4: So he does. If you've got time, I've already done it.

1063
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 4: I'll actually tag you in it.

1064
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 3: Oh I probably didn't tag you.

1065
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 4: I probably didn't tag in it, but I saw it

1066
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 4: and I went straight to it. He's two six is

1067
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 4: actually and then it's caught on the boundary. Yeah.

1068
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when Richie had the great big sombrero almost

1069
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 2: out there when he used to play. Yeah, all Joe Angel,

1070
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: Joe Angel, I think I think Australian cricket the board

1071
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: thought that Joe Angel might have been the next big thing,

1072
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: but his career didn't last all that long unfortunately in

1073
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 2: the for Australia.

1074
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 4: No I did. I liked being Joe, but he was

1075
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 4: he was on a short leash. There was one innings.

1076
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 4: You know, get wickets, we get smashed, goodbye. Yeah, maybe

1077
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Speaker 4: you should be wearing a blue cape because I think

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Speaker 4: the Golden West Australia cap probed him to him.

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Speaker 2: No, no, I think you're right there. All right, Rubell, thanks,

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Speaker 2: thanks so much for your time and keep up the

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Speaker 2: great work.

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Speaker 4: No problem, love to chat.

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Speaker 3: Thanks