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Speaker 2: How long has it been? Now?
Speaker 1: Spent a long time? Fourteen years? I would say, Wow.
Speaker 2: We've been working there. I've been doing this for fourteen years.
Speaker 1: Yes, he signed with the jetson all nine correct, I.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, and then I retire. So every year after
Speaker 2: I retire, I've been doing this.
Speaker 1: I guess we had a break in there. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what happened after you retire. I remember that disappeared.
Speaker 2: I went to CBS right, and then I remember us
Speaker 2: being how long ago have we when we was at
Speaker 2: the hotel with Robbie Robbie Anderson, we had to apologize
Speaker 2: to America.
Speaker 1: I'm bringing that up all the time. It's Chosen Anderson now.
Speaker 2: I know Chosen. Yeah, they brought Chosen back last week.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh he's still around. Oh he lined
Speaker 2: up passed the ball. He's like, I got you, Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 2: You line up with one with chats over me, not
Speaker 2: Tyrek Hill, Darius Tony. He lined up his whole foot
Speaker 2: was he was past the defender.
Speaker 1: He he did wave at the official like a couple
Speaker 1: of yards before.
Speaker 2: But when you do that, you have to look and
Speaker 2: wait for the ficial response. Just look look straight the
Speaker 2: fisher like, bro, you are past.
Speaker 1: The d end, Like, well, you gotta shed some light
Speaker 1: on that interview there. We used to we used to
Speaker 1: do inside the jets across the street and there were
Speaker 1: TVs up there and we were actually facing the TV.
Speaker 2: And it was brought to uh, it was brought up
Speaker 2: by ESPN Radio and we used to do it and
Speaker 2: like at some point we just had to apologize to
Speaker 2: the people about.
Speaker 1: Like you were apologizing miss Robbie. Is is kind of he's
Speaker 1: kind of he was. He was focused on a couple
Speaker 1: of other things while we're doing the interview.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was just faced out man, like only two
Speaker 2: guys I've ever had to do that with. Yeah, yo,
Speaker 2: I do that with Jerry Judy too. Like we ended,
Speaker 2: we ended the We ended me and my partner. We
Speaker 2: ended the.
Speaker 1: Interview was ESPN Radio.
Speaker 2: Yes, he was like, bro, like never, we'll talk to you, like, thanks,
Speaker 2: thanks for your time. Though he was he was promoting
Speaker 2: the product. He knew nothing about.
Speaker 1: Oh was this a Super Bowl or was Judy just
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was so bad that the PR and radio stages
Speaker 2: from Denver got hold of an interview and start calling us, like, man,
Speaker 2: this dude's an idiot and he he he was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what he was like if this dude
Speaker 2: was on something like this dude tripping listen.
Speaker 1: Robbie's a good guy. He was just focused on a
Speaker 1: couple of other things.
Speaker 2: It was a crazy interview. It was like, but you
Speaker 2: never know, some guys are don't don't speak a lot, right,
Speaker 2: So he was only giving like one word ass like bro,
Speaker 2: you know this is entertainment, right.
Speaker 1: So we came out of the break and you're still
Speaker 1: talking about it after we thanked him for coming.
Speaker 2: On, Like bro, that was the worst, all right.
Speaker 1: So the big news here this week was Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: going on Pat McAfee's show on Tuesday and his regular
Speaker 1: weekly appearance.
Speaker 2: I have money to pay Aaron Rodgers so he could
Speaker 2: be my weekly Do you.
Speaker 1: Think we should work on that for next year in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: There's a couple of things.
Speaker 1: It's gonna cost you seven digits, So there's a couple
Speaker 1: of things to get to here.
Speaker 2: We ain't got seven digits to spare like that, No surprise, right,
Speaker 2: And we got seven digits like that, then we need
Speaker 2: to we need to up my salary and we can
Speaker 2: we can do without it, no sound, no surprise right
Speaker 2: when you when you think about the statement that was
Speaker 2: made before the game saying that if it was a
Speaker 2: one point zero zero zero one point chance, it was
Speaker 2: still a chance he would play. But at this point
Speaker 2: it's no reward at all, all risk because if he
Speaker 2: hurts something and you know, looking at you know how Sam,
Speaker 2: you know got hurt last week, you know, getting hit,
Speaker 2: you know, took a vicious hit, it's no need for
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers to take Yeah, zat Zach, it's no need
Speaker 2: for Aaron to take that type of punishment. So let's
Speaker 2: just live to fight another day. The good news that
Speaker 2: came out that is he believes he wants to play
Speaker 2: a couple of years, which I believe that's what he
Speaker 2: wanted to do anyway, was to play multiple years this
Speaker 2: year and next year. And because he only played four snaps,
Speaker 2: he doesn't consider this a year or you know, maybe
Speaker 2: if he had played eight games, got hurt, then maybe
Speaker 2: he'll consider it would have considered it a year and
Speaker 2: say I want to play one more year. So now
Speaker 2: this means that the Jets has a solid commitment from him, right,
Speaker 2: you know. And the solid commitment, so I don't expect
Speaker 2: him to have to go into a hole or go
Speaker 2: into darkness retreat or anything like that. He'll do what
Speaker 2: he does to get his mind right for next year.
Speaker 2: But the fact that we know that we can have
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers for two years changes the way you go
Speaker 2: about free agency, changes about the way that you go
Speaker 2: about the draft. So you know, I think that that
Speaker 2: statement alone multiple years means to me that you know,
Speaker 2: you have to build around Aaron Rodgers because you may
Speaker 2: have an opportunity to win a Super Bowl. If you
Speaker 2: win it the first year, you have an opportunity to
Speaker 2: run it much really similar to what Tom Brady did
Speaker 2: in Town.
Speaker 1: Rogers has always played this game at such an elite level.
Speaker 1: He dealt with injuries. That last year in Green Bay
Speaker 1: before being traded over here. He tears the chilles.
Speaker 2: But that was broken hands, So that's you're.
Speaker 1: Still with the thumb right now.
Speaker 2: I think other Nixon, I really don't think about that
Speaker 2: as like a aging injury.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So That's what my question is. So he's forty,
Speaker 1: he'll turn forty one next season, But you have confidence
Speaker 1: after watching guys like Brady late in their career that.
Speaker 2: Hey, Lebron, Lebron James. You have to put all great athletes.
Speaker 2: I think in the same category. Lebron James's acts and
Speaker 2: his body to do way more than what Aaron Rodgers is, right,
Speaker 2: because you're talking about basketball, you're playing offense and defense,
Speaker 2: and you're keeping up so like you're going by people,
Speaker 2: but then now you got to check somebody as well.
Speaker 2: You know, Aaron Rodgers is just playing off and so
Speaker 2: I have full confidence that he can play at high level.
Speaker 2: And I always have this conversation with people when they
Speaker 2: talk about, well, he's forty forty one, I always say,
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, whatever his ages, take off four years and
Speaker 2: that's what his real age is. Because he was a backup,
Speaker 2: he didn't get a lot of wear and tear. He
Speaker 2: didn't get like a lot of He hasn't had a
Speaker 2: lot of injuries. He hasn't torn his acl and all that.
Speaker 2: So this is his first major injury. So I don't
Speaker 2: look at him as a typical you know, forty ye oh, quarterback,
Speaker 2: you know, and I kind of compare it to like
Speaker 2: guys like Brandon Jacobs and big guys who were young
Speaker 2: but wore down hard because the type of position that
Speaker 2: they play in the style in which they played. Right.
Speaker 2: We talk about Yeah, we talked about Earl Campbell right
Speaker 2: six years Right, we talk about some of the great
Speaker 2: like runners like Eddie George. They didn't play late into
Speaker 2: their career. I mean, Frank Gore played forever. He was
Speaker 2: an anomaly. I mean the fact that he was able
Speaker 2: to play at a high level and still absorb that
Speaker 2: type of position. But quarterbacks, especially now where where the
Speaker 2: game is so less physical in the quarterback has so
Speaker 2: much protection and probably that tackle that he got, not
Speaker 2: saying that it was illegal, but they're going to take
Speaker 2: that weight drop tackle down away as well, so you
Speaker 2: don't worry about those type of tackles going forward.
Speaker 1: So here we are three games remaining, Jets eliminated from
Speaker 1: postseason contention. It was a huge and probability to begin
Speaker 1: with as far as entering last weekend, but they lose
Speaker 1: to the Dolphins. What I think people at home struggle
Speaker 1: with is how would all this look different with Rogers
Speaker 1: Because we know that he is an unbelievable player at
Speaker 1: the most important position in all of sports. So it's hard,
Speaker 1: I think when people are taking it in and they
Speaker 1: see the Jets offensive struggles for such a long time
Speaker 1: and say, well, how different does this look if Rogers
Speaker 1: is there?
Speaker 2: Well, when you talk about war in baseball, that's what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about, ye wins over replacement or whatever, not
Speaker 2: the traditional word war.
Speaker 1: Of course, you.
Speaker 2: Would like to think that Aaron Rodgers is a plus
Speaker 2: two plus three. Well, if the Jets were plus two
Speaker 2: or plus three, where would they be. They would be
Speaker 2: in the thick of it. There would be there'll be eight,
Speaker 2: eight wins, maybe the seventh seed even.
Speaker 1: War nine, seven and six. Right if you flip it,
Speaker 1: three three wins.
Speaker 2: Yeah, three wins, that's what I'm saying. So, like you,
Speaker 2: you would think that they would be writing the thick
Speaker 2: of it in a wide open AFC where anybody gets
Speaker 2: hot and styles make fights would be able to win,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Maybe the run game would
Speaker 2: be a lot better because of non loaded boxes, because
Speaker 2: you know, if you give Aaron Rodgers off coverage, he's
Speaker 2: just gonna raise up and throw it to it and
Speaker 2: make that play. A run play and not even tell
Speaker 2: tell this offense that he's doing that. He just has
Speaker 2: his cold word is one word with his receiver. A
Speaker 2: guy playing off in cover three ten yards off Boom
Speaker 2: instead of running the ball there you go tackle my
Speaker 2: guy in space. Giving guys opportunities like Garrett, giving guys
Speaker 2: like opportunities like you know, Gibson, given guys opportunities like
Speaker 2: Lizard just to raise up. And those are just the
Speaker 2: things that his football acumen gives you advantage of. You like,
Speaker 2: he makes the game easier because because he's doing the thinking,
Speaker 2: you know, for for the team, right he's thinking at
Speaker 2: such a high level, Jedi level, that he's able to
Speaker 2: think the game and you know a lot of times
Speaker 2: that the game is more mental than it is physical
Speaker 2: at times, and he'll, you know, he'll always put you
Speaker 2: at the right position, the right play. Not saying it
Speaker 2: is going to be perfect, but it's an added advantage
Speaker 2: when you have players that can think the game the
Speaker 2: way that Aaron Rodgers can.
Speaker 1: We know the Jets have multiple offensive needs. We're not
Speaker 1: going to talk about the offseason at this point. Well,
Speaker 1: just with the Rogers conversation, talk about the defense. Does
Speaker 1: your mind go back as somebody who played the game
Speaker 1: and also who's commenting about the game every day and say,
Speaker 1: you know, I wonder how this would have played out
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three if Rogers was healthy, because it
Speaker 1: sure feels like the AFC has a open feeling that
Speaker 1: we haven't had quite some time. I mean, I know,
Speaker 1: Kansas City's defending champions and Baltimore is very good.
Speaker 2: But everybody's beatable right on any given Sunday. And if
Speaker 2: you've got a great game plan and you have you know,
Speaker 2: efficient productivity and everybody plays well, any team could be
Speaker 2: in any team in the AFC. And you imagine, like
Speaker 2: what that would have looked like with a healthy Rogers
Speaker 2: and a healthy avt Ye. You know, because Abt, I believe,
Speaker 2: is probably the most valuable player on the offensive line
Speaker 2: because of his ability to get on the edges and
Speaker 2: be able to do things. And you look at how
Speaker 2: Tipman has got better. Just imagine pulling the center and
Speaker 2: the backside tackle. What that would look like, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, being able to get extra bodies to
Speaker 2: the open side.
Speaker 1: You like avt more long term tackle, even though he
Speaker 1: can do both.
Speaker 2: No, no, I think listen it depends on what you're
Speaker 2: able to fill the team with. I think at some
Speaker 2: point we're going to have to decide what he is
Speaker 2: and what he's going to stay at, and that's something
Speaker 2: he has to decide. But I'm sure right tackles get
Speaker 2: paid more than guards. I mean, Nelson, Quentin. Nelson did
Speaker 2: a great job in raising the price for guys like
Speaker 2: that and Zach Martin this off season, so I think
Speaker 2: maybe that closed the gap. But I just need Avt
Speaker 2: to be healthy. I mean that that was a draft
Speaker 2: pick that you hit on. The talent isn't the issue.
Speaker 2: The versatility is an issue, but now the durability is
Speaker 2: an issue, and you don't know how many. I don't
Speaker 2: worry about the first injury, the tricep or the by set,
Speaker 2: whatever it was. I don't worry about those because those
Speaker 2: don't affect you as a player as far as I
Speaker 2: move before. But now you talk about the what was
Speaker 2: it Achilles? You talk about Achilles. That's that's a different thing, right,
Speaker 2: and we have to figure out, you know, as the Jets,
Speaker 2: it's what three Achilles this year? Our woods?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Abt, Aaron, Yes, I think you really have to figure
Speaker 2: out how to.
Speaker 1: It feels like injuries are off across the Yeah.
Speaker 2: But but but then particular injuries achilles has been you know, JK. Dobbins.
Speaker 2: A lot of guys, you know Phillips, right, it's a
Speaker 2: lot of guys with that. So a lot of times
Speaker 2: you have to start looking at Okay, what kind of
Speaker 2: shoes are these guys wearing? What kind of prehab can
Speaker 2: we do to strengthen and elanate the tendons so it's
Speaker 2: not so tight so it doesn't pop? Right? Most of
Speaker 2: these guys have tight calves, which means tight hamstrings. How
Speaker 2: do we loosen that up? How do we you know,
Speaker 2: make sure that we stretch those and we warm them
Speaker 2: up properly before activity every day instead of just you know,
Speaker 2: doing it when you feel like it. You know what
Speaker 2: I mean? I used too, you know, it was a
Speaker 2: fear that because I have flat feet. That later in
Speaker 2: my career, they talk about how African Americans over thirty,
Speaker 2: how they have a higher tendency because we have high
Speaker 2: calves and this is a little bit and you know
Speaker 2: other stuff. High calves which means that we flat feet,
Speaker 2: high calves, you know, a lot of tension on achilles.
Speaker 2: They were concerned so I made sure every day before
Speaker 2: I did anything, I did extensive warm up on the
Speaker 2: slant board to warm and stretch my calves and my achilles. Yes,
Speaker 2: because I already have plant fasciitis. Do you ever?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, And that's what an awful injury isn't that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go back to Rogers real quick. How want you
Speaker 1: like his mindset? When you just hear the guy talk,
Speaker 1: the hear like other dudes, like the way he phrases
Speaker 1: things and his approaches.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a he's a forward thinker, right, Like,
Speaker 2: he's a guy that's opened to everything, and an open
Speaker 2: minded person is a great person to listen to and
Speaker 2: be around because he doesn't shun ideas. He listens and
Speaker 2: internalizes his ideas. And you know, his attack to rehab
Speaker 2: and stuff like that was another example of his belief
Speaker 2: system as just as a person a right, So, I
Speaker 2: think a lot can be learned from a guy like that.
Speaker 2: It's a mindset. Yeah, like the Black Mamba, Yeah, like
Speaker 2: Kobe a little bit. So we call him White Mamba.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I wonder if he liked that, Nicknam, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we gotta get him in the studio though, you're
Speaker 1: saying seven digits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, well look, he ain't gonna charge you seven.
Speaker 2: It's his family. It's different. He might just do this
Speaker 2: off the strength off the love, I mean, because he's
Speaker 2: not going to play. So this is the greatest platform
Speaker 2: that he can do to speak to his peoples, not
Speaker 2: the McAfee show. To speak to your people directly. This
Speaker 2: is jets put out information, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So you talk to your people. You do this show.
Speaker 2: You sit in this seat. Yeah, you talk to E,
Speaker 2: A and B. Ski you take you can.
Speaker 1: Follow what you did your map back in old nine.
Speaker 1: Join it yet content as a player, and then there
Speaker 1: was a little break in action when you went to
Speaker 1: CBS stuff like that. All right, so three games remaining.
Speaker 1: What do you want to see? What do you want
Speaker 1: to see? Because if you're a fan, you're already you're
Speaker 1: so upset, disappointed that you're in the situation. But there's
Speaker 1: that tug pushing Paul right that, Hey, I want a
Speaker 1: good draft pick, but also you want your team to
Speaker 1: play well. You want to see individuals succeed. What do
Speaker 1: you want to see?
Speaker 2: I want to see that. I want to see all
Speaker 2: the young players get an opportunity. I would love to see, like, listen,
Speaker 2: I know Breech probably has goals that he wants, but
Speaker 2: I want to see you know, you know, we know
Speaker 2: that Dalvin Cook probably won't be here, so I want
Speaker 2: to see I want to see a guy like is
Speaker 2: he Abana Kana get an opportunity to get meaningful rep
Speaker 2: I want to put him in tough spots. I want
Speaker 2: to see him on third down pick up blitzes because
Speaker 2: next year you're going to expect him to do that,
Speaker 2: So I'd rather him get some type of on the
Speaker 2: job training before the season start. I want to see
Speaker 2: Rutgers start. I want to see him start and see Okay,
Speaker 2: you know who knows what the future of UZAMA is,
Speaker 2: So I want to see that guy, you know, go
Speaker 2: out and start. You know, cochlan comes in and maybe
Speaker 2: you know, spells him and see if he can handle
Speaker 2: the load, the game plan, the pressure, the football action
Speaker 2: I'm trying to develop now, right, you know, I'm looking
Speaker 2: at Will McDonald like. I want to see him start.
Speaker 2: I want to see him in pressure situation. I want
Speaker 2: to see him on the strong side, leaning against the run.
Speaker 2: I want to see him anchor. I want to see
Speaker 2: him take on double teams. I want to see him,
Speaker 2: you know, be disciplined, getting up the quarterback depth, spending underneath.
Speaker 2: I want to see that. I want to see young
Speaker 2: guys put in tough situations to see how they respond
Speaker 2: on the lights turn on.
Speaker 1: I like that. What do you make of carryover? There's
Speaker 1: no carryover, right.
Speaker 2: This is more well, it's momentum.
Speaker 1: You can yeah, but you gained momentum as an individual.
Speaker 1: I'm saying like team wise, like, if you finish strong,
Speaker 1: can you take that into the offseason.
Speaker 2: Yeah. A lot of teams we talk about all the time,
Speaker 2: teams that finished seven and nine back in the day,
Speaker 2: seven and nine, and then the next year they come
Speaker 2: back and they win the division. Like we've always talked
Speaker 2: about that team's goal. It's always a team that takes
Speaker 2: that jump from six and ten and next year they're
Speaker 2: a number one seed. That's always been the case, right, right,
Speaker 2: because it's it's not a far distance from six and
Speaker 2: ten to you know, you know, thirteen and five. You
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's like what it is is
Speaker 2: learning how to finish right, and you start realizing the
Speaker 2: differences and the small details that make the difference between
Speaker 2: winning and losing. And how many of those games if
Speaker 2: you would did things right way, if you would have
Speaker 2: been disciplined, if you wouldn't have pivotal bad mistakes, where
Speaker 2: you would have been Each.
Speaker 1: Game is his own season. I know that, But why
Speaker 1: such a discrepancy when you see the second half against
Speaker 1: Houston and then you see what happened for sixty minutes
Speaker 1: against Miami.
Speaker 2: Well, in my in my opinion, Robert Sala going into
Speaker 2: this game everything that Demico Ryan are a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff that themic O Ryan knows he learned from him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you understand and know those principles, so you attack him.
Speaker 2: And on the flip side, Mike McDaniels knows a lot
Speaker 2: about conceptually what this defense does, what gives him problems,
Speaker 2: And he knows because he's practiced against him and practice
Speaker 2: over and over again. But he has the type of
Speaker 2: weapons that can really cause trouble for schematically what they do.
Speaker 2: I mean, he knew that that Robert Sala doesn't flip corners,
Speaker 2: So you gave him an idea of a matchup that
Speaker 2: he knew he could take advantage of and going over
Speaker 2: and saying, hey, I can take the best player that
Speaker 2: we have, not our best player when Tyreek Hill is here,
Speaker 2: but our best player and get him against you know,
Speaker 2: not saying DJ Red isn't a great player, but they
Speaker 2: like the matchup. Yes, a length is what gives waddle issues.
Speaker 2: Not a guy that's that's short and quick and powerful.
Speaker 2: Maybe some some some some receivers don't like length and speed, right,
Speaker 2: because that length allows guys to recover and you can't
Speaker 2: get on top of them because they can keep you
Speaker 2: at harm's length. So then he can run two right,
Speaker 2: So and so understanding that right, you know, maybe that
Speaker 2: knowledge from going against former teams, uh teammate, which that's
Speaker 2: what Salam mcdaiams was, you know, hurt. It helped them
Speaker 2: one week and hurt them the following week.
Speaker 1: What do you think the response is gonna be here?
Speaker 1: Jets are five and nine, we're playing at home. This
Speaker 1: crowd is gonna be like, hey, you guys better do
Speaker 1: something early. This is a Washington this Christmas eve bro,
Speaker 1: this is a it's a Washington team at four and
Speaker 1: ten bart they won their first two games, so talk
Speaker 1: about struggles. I mean they're two and ten in their
Speaker 1: last twelve.
Speaker 2: Well, they decided to clearly to move in a different direction,
Speaker 2: and they're flipping it. They they they traded their two
Speaker 2: best defensive players, like who trades two great pass rushers.
Speaker 2: They let Chase Young walk out the door, and they
Speaker 2: let Montes Sweat who has twelve and a half sacks.
Speaker 2: He had six for them then and now he has
Speaker 2: six and a half for the Chicago So proves that
Speaker 2: he can take the show on the road and be
Speaker 2: a multi scheme type of player. He may he's gonna
Speaker 2: end up with fifteen sixteen sacks this year. You let
Speaker 2: that walk out the door because you decided you weren't
Speaker 2: gonna pay him, But you paid your D tackles. Hooper
Speaker 2: who doubles down on paying two D tackles. Usually you
Speaker 2: pay one D tackle and one outside. Not since Minnesota
Speaker 2: has I ever seen a team invest so heavily in
Speaker 2: D tackles like the Williams brothers, Kevin and Pat Like
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it ever again. But to let two
Speaker 2: potentially all pro pass rushers go that you drafted, that's
Speaker 2: a fireable offense in itself.
Speaker 1: Sam Hall, he's the young player back there at the
Speaker 1: signal caller position. Jacobe Brissett, we saw him last week.
Speaker 1: Verse enters the game up and down the field. He's
Speaker 1: moving that offense. How's an interesting guy because he's athletic,
Speaker 1: he's tough, he's a little bit smaller. They like to
Speaker 1: throw the ball up top. On paper, I think this
Speaker 1: is a favorable matchup for the Jets. You can say
Speaker 1: that most weeks as far as their defense is going
Speaker 1: going against an opposing offense. But they like to get
Speaker 1: the ball down the field.
Speaker 2: So you gotta takes two of them, so you gotta.
Speaker 1: Stay on top of you said, scary Terry. They got Curtis, Samuel,
Speaker 1: Dodson and Dotson. So what do you think about the
Speaker 1: Jets corners against these three guys.
Speaker 2: I mean, they gotta be disciplined, right because they're going
Speaker 2: to take shots. So you can in this game, you
Speaker 2: can stop nine out of ten, but the tenants to
Speaker 2: one that people's gonna remember, depending on if it's a
Speaker 2: big play or if it's a touchdown, or if it's
Speaker 2: like a Jalen Waddow, you know, seventy yard or however
Speaker 2: long that was touchdown that takes in the gates everything
Speaker 2: that you had done the other nine times because of
Speaker 2: that one tenth time.
Speaker 1: I think this is the game where Sauce gets his
Speaker 1: first interception of the year. No, listen, he's gonna have
Speaker 1: some opportunities.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sam How is not gonna be afraid to throw
Speaker 2: the ball at anybody, right, all right, so I mean
Speaker 2: he's going after big play sleigh. Right. They've played Philadelphia
Speaker 2: very well two straight damn times that they played him.
Speaker 1: So we're taping this Wednesday morning. Robert Style hasn't talked yet.
Speaker 1: I think the starting quarterback decision for this game may
Speaker 1: go later in the week because he said that there's
Speaker 1: a possible protocols. Right, Yeah, he's in protocol. He said
Speaker 1: if he was asked directly, if he's cleared later in
Speaker 1: the week, could he start without practicing, and he said
Speaker 1: he could. But if it's Trevor Simeon, how do you
Speaker 1: make this a functional unit that we saw against Houston
Speaker 1: compared to the breakdowns that we saw against Miami, different opponent.
Speaker 2: You gotta run the ball, man, you still have to.
Speaker 2: It always stops and starts with running the ball and
Speaker 2: being effective running the ball. So they can't run the ball,
Speaker 2: then that's going to allow extra resource to be applied
Speaker 2: to stop in the pass and you know, entirely defensively
Speaker 2: I told you how great they are with I always
Speaker 2: say his name wrong. It's Pain and Allen, Right, two
Speaker 2: different guys to Iron Payne or something something that they
Speaker 2: can be game breakers. And this team still plays hard man.
Speaker 2: So this is evenly matched game and they got to
Speaker 2: figure out how to get a win. Last time you're
Speaker 2: going to be in front of your home crowd, you
Speaker 2: want to leave them with a positive taste in their mouth.
Speaker 1: We talked about it before. What do you make of
Speaker 1: the conference? What do you make of the division? Not
Speaker 1: just this year but long term? Because the just are
Speaker 1: gonna be bat on Miami for a while. Buffalo seems
Speaker 1: that they have fine on its footing here a little.
Speaker 2: Bit maybe a little bit too late. You know they
Speaker 2: had you know they have, I forgot who they have.
Speaker 2: They have a couple of tough games.
Speaker 1: I think they got the Chargers Patriots, and then Miami
Speaker 1: Miami that that that may be to get into postseason
Speaker 1: for them, and then New England. This is a crazy
Speaker 1: set up here.
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's the reset for them. Who knows that
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick is going to still be on the team.
Speaker 2: If he's going to still be there.
Speaker 1: What were your thoughts and what were your thoughts be,
Speaker 1: because there's been reports that they could part ways.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Jack's final game. I mean it could
Speaker 2: be time. Yeah, it could be time. Right, you talk
Speaker 2: about you know, they're moving on from their quarterback, you know,
Speaker 2: and they didn't do a great job in developing and
Speaker 2: I know that could be said for for this organization
Speaker 2: as well. But they're clearly going to be drafts and
Speaker 2: they're right now the number two, number overall pick. So
Speaker 2: are you going to trust Bill Belichick to develop that quarterback?
Speaker 1: I was saying, how crazy would it be if this
Speaker 1: ends up being Belichick's last game and you're sitting there
Speaker 1: with the number two overall pick heading into that matchup
Speaker 1: against the Jets and Caleb Williams is out there, Drake
Speaker 1: May's out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they have an opportunity to get a
Speaker 2: generation of what we feel like is to can't miss quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: But then, you know, people said that about many drafts
Speaker 2: and that hasn't been the case. So be careful what
Speaker 2: you wish for.
Speaker 1: So Christmas coming up, you got any plants?
Speaker 2: No, man?
Speaker 1: Just what are heetting the kids? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well the kids already taken care of, you know, Santa. Okay,
Speaker 2: with them or what. Yeah, my kids do a good job, man,
Speaker 2: I can't. They don't really act for stuff, so they're
Speaker 2: doing a good job man. So I think I think
Speaker 2: they Gucci with Sanah. But you know one thing I
Speaker 2: like is they don't really ask for stuff or really
Speaker 2: have desires for stuff. Maybe just because they buy stuff
Speaker 2: all year round, so maybe that's maybe it's a difference.
Speaker 2: But they don't really go too crazy. My daughter always
Speaker 2: wants candles, and well my daughters. If anybody wants anything,
Speaker 2: it's my daughter. But it's not really anything crazy. It's
Speaker 2: you like bomber jackets, cool jeans, and like candles, I
Speaker 2: mean gets she wanted some type of floaby thing or
Speaker 2: something to put it, put her hair in in it
Speaker 2: makes it curly when it comes out, when you come out.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Uh, let's say them here because I want people to
Speaker 1: go out to the pulse. Give me a reason why
Speaker 1: the following players are Pro Bowl worthy.
Speaker 2: Soft Gardner, I mean, Sauce is probably want the most
Speaker 2: avoided players in the league. So you can't look at
Speaker 2: stats all the time with them. Just know that heated
Speaker 2: doesn't get the ball thrown his way. He ranks high
Speaker 2: and man, the man and zone, which is rare. Some
Speaker 2: guys are dominant in one. He's dominant in both. I
Speaker 2: think he breaks over ninety five in both categories. Right
Speaker 2: before DJ Reid, DJ Reid, I think, you know, last
Speaker 2: week was a tough week, but you know that's the
Speaker 2: first time we saw him struggle. I thought he was
Speaker 2: actually playing better than the Sauce before last week. But
Speaker 2: he's been playing at a high level. And like we said,
Speaker 2: like we don't switch side, So everybody that you want
Speaker 2: to give Sauce credit for stopping or DJ Reid has
Speaker 2: done the same.
Speaker 1: Michael Carter second.
Speaker 2: Mike Carter second. I think it is one of the
Speaker 2: best players at his position. I mean, he plays at
Speaker 2: such a high level. To me, he's the best nickel
Speaker 2: in all the football CJ. Mosey, Well, Mosley's just you know,
Speaker 2: he gets underrated as far as you take it for granted, right,
Speaker 2: and that's the definition of greatness doing the small things routinely.
Speaker 2: So I mean he's already a four or five time
Speaker 2: Pro bowler. So yeah, this is just Quincy. I think
Speaker 2: had a breakout season. You you said earlier, you know
Speaker 2: on our other show that we take about where he
Speaker 2: ranks as far as tackles for loss sacks passed right right,
Speaker 2: So it's like real round, it's gonna be tough too,
Speaker 2: because you know the kid, and it's always tough to
Speaker 2: try and be the new kid breaking into a new
Speaker 2: swat because we know one of those spots is already
Speaker 2: probably reserved for Ray cron Smith because they have the
Speaker 2: best record in the AFC and he's playing at the
Speaker 2: high level. He's a brand name as well. You know
Speaker 2: this this new kid Zaire uh leads the league and tackles,
Speaker 2: so that's gonna be so it's gonna be tough. And
Speaker 2: their team is actually in the playoffs, so that it's
Speaker 2: it's all kind of factors that at least one of.
Speaker 1: Those guys should go, mostly Quincy Uh, Quentin Williams.
Speaker 2: Well, Quinn is a brand name. I don't have any
Speaker 2: problems with Quinn getting and he's getting a lot of attention.
Speaker 2: And now this sack numbers are starting to get to
Speaker 2: a respectable spot where people are like, oh that they
Speaker 2: but before it was glaring because she's getting triple team. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but look at how many the other guys are eating
Speaker 2: off his plate. Yeah, Jefferson eat off his play. All
Speaker 2: these guys are having career years because Quinn is taking
Speaker 2: up all the resources.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are the other two guys that wanting on
Speaker 1: Bryce Off and Jermaine Johnson.
Speaker 2: They both Yeah, but we know, we know, we know
Speaker 2: how this game goes. Like, you got Miles Garrett, you
Speaker 2: got some war dads, you got the Allen Josh Allen
Speaker 2: down there, no doubt like so like it's gonna be
Speaker 2: tough letting, but the fact that he'll get some votes
Speaker 2: and nominated, he'll probably be alternative alternate, you know, just
Speaker 2: speaks a lot volumes about him.
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson should get some votes. I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know the numbers aren't going to compare it to some
Speaker 1: of those other guys to he still got seventy nine
Speaker 1: catches playing with four different quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough sledding, but I think he gets respect.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, if he doesn't go, take take note
Speaker 2: because next year, hopefully you'll have Aaron Rodgers and then
Speaker 2: you'll be able to make your case.
Speaker 1: Preestall has quietly become one of the best backs as
Speaker 1: far as receiving that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just haven't been able to find a way
Speaker 2: to to for him. To run the ball. And it's
Speaker 2: weird because last year he ran the ball. That's such
Speaker 2: a crazy clip and early in the season. But you
Speaker 2: mentioned it before. It's because avt out of the lineup.
Speaker 2: I think there's a correlation here. Yeah, yeah, it's always
Speaker 2: a correlation right between those two. Ring game goes those
Speaker 2: two together. Man, they like the dynamic duel.
Speaker 1: And Tyler Conklin. I'll tell you what. From a tight
Speaker 1: end position, I know you want seeing more reps and
Speaker 1: he's definitely gonna get some more rops down the stretch.
Speaker 1: But Conklin quietly has had a nice year as well.
Speaker 2: Of course he's having a career year for himself, right,
Speaker 2: And you know, but I just say record just because
Speaker 2: like next year moving forward, he's gonna be there. You
Speaker 2: know what you're gonna get from Conkland, right, you know
Speaker 2: what he is and what he's capable of. And you
Speaker 2: want to see, like some of the young guys the future,
Speaker 2: you know, see what they can do and put them
Speaker 2: in meaningful games. Playing the preseason is not meaningful. You
Speaker 2: want to see what it's like when they got to
Speaker 2: make real, live decisions when everybody's playing.
Speaker 1: And this is what the final three games are going
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Speaker 1: We're at your by punter Thomas Morristaid. Thomas, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. One thing I got to
Speaker 1: ask you, what are you most proud of her this season?
Speaker 1: You got twenty eight points down inside the twenty, you
Speaker 1: got fifteen down inside ten, and I believe you have
Speaker 1: six down inside the five yard lift.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know the exact numbers, so that's cool
Speaker 4: to hear. You know, I think I'm just proud of
Speaker 4: being here. You know, three years ago, I got cut
Speaker 4: from the Saints and had a bad injury, and I
Speaker 4: just struggled to kind of get past it and couldn't
Speaker 4: get a work out with anybody just because of my age,
Speaker 4: And you know, I just kind of made a commitment
Speaker 4: to myself that I was going to just stay ready
Speaker 4: and get back healthy, and if I didn't get an opportunity,
Speaker 4: then I could live with it.
Speaker 5: But I if.
Speaker 4: I did get an off and I wasn't ready, I
Speaker 4: would regret it. So I just trained and it was
Speaker 4: very frustrating time because I feel like I was the
Speaker 4: best punter in the league for a decade. In the
Speaker 4: twenty tens, and to not even be given a workout
Speaker 4: or you know, get an opportunity was difficult.
Speaker 5: So I just stayed ready.
Speaker 4: And then when I came here in the week two
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty one, you know, I showed everybody that
Speaker 4: I was still playing at an elite level.
Speaker 5: And then and so just kind of the.
Speaker 4: You know, the I've seen the really good side of
Speaker 4: this business and and the tough side of the business,
Speaker 4: and to kind of like persevere through that and have
Speaker 4: to go to a few different teams to kind of
Speaker 4: get my you know, get back in and to kind
Speaker 4: of like really just you know, been I called elite consistency.
Speaker 5: You know, I don't have the highest punt or the
Speaker 5: farthest punt in the league.
Speaker 4: And to be statistically competing at the top of the
Speaker 4: you know league in a bunch of areas and doing
Speaker 4: it as the oldest player at my position and have
Speaker 4: come through that and my kids to have seen me persevere,
Speaker 4: it's like a really unique opportunity.
Speaker 5: And so I'm just proud to be here.
Speaker 1: You're not an old guy, but by NFL standards, you
Speaker 1: are an old guy. Yeah, So thirty seven, you got
Speaker 1: four kids, what other ages and what has been a
Speaker 1: like been a been at all been like for you
Speaker 1: as far as them being able to watch dad on
Speaker 1: the field perform at such an lead level.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I've got Maxwell's nine boy, Beckett is eight boy,
Speaker 4: Maggie's six girl, and Rossallely is four girl, and it's
Speaker 4: been amazing. I remember about two weeks after I got
Speaker 4: cut three years ago, and you know, it was the
Speaker 4: first time me and my wife kind of sat down
Speaker 4: and kind of felt like somebody died, like we were
Speaker 4: grieving like our homes in New Orleans and we've been
Speaker 4: there my whole career. And she just finally asked, like
Speaker 4: after two weeks, she was like, so, what do you
Speaker 4: think you want to do? And I just remember like
Speaker 4: telling her, I said, you know, I know it doesn't
Speaker 4: look great right now, but I just know I'm not
Speaker 4: done right, I'm and I'm I just need to like
Speaker 4: recalibrate and get back into my training how I've been
Speaker 4: able to for so long, Like I already know what
Speaker 4: the script is, you know what I mean, I know
Speaker 4: how to do what I you know how to train
Speaker 4: what I need to do to get back. And I said,
Speaker 4: what do you think you know, because it's going to
Speaker 4: now not have the stability. It could be us moving around,
Speaker 4: it could be a lot of change.
Speaker 5: And she just said, you know, all.
Speaker 4: I know is you've got an opportunity to show your kids,
Speaker 4: particularly your boys, who are the older ones that kind
Speaker 4: of know what's going on. You've got an opportunity to
Speaker 4: show them how to get up when you get knocked down.
Speaker 4: And I I just remember being like floored that she
Speaker 4: just hit me with that, Like it was basically like
Speaker 4: nothing else matters. People are telling you to retire, don't
Speaker 4: ruin your legacy. You've done it all with the Saints
Speaker 4: and all this stuff. And she was like, you've got
Speaker 4: a chance to show your kids how to handle some
Speaker 4: adversity and you may never get this opportunity again. And
Speaker 4: I remember just being floored. And so, yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: it's been amazing. They know, you know, it was hard
Speaker 4: on them, right. Are we allowed to be Saints fans anymore?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll always be Saints fans, you know, well we're
Speaker 4: you know, we still live there and they love the
Speaker 4: team and we still root for that team. But they've
Speaker 4: kind of learned the business side as well, and you know,
Speaker 4: you know, well do you have to do? You have
Speaker 4: to keep working because then you're going to be gone.
Speaker 4: And you know, it's just there's a lot of dynamics.
Speaker 4: And so they've they've kind of been through it with
Speaker 4: with us all. We've all done it together, and I'm
Speaker 4: really proud of it. And uh, you know, there's been
Speaker 4: sacrifices made by everybody. You know, we moved everybody up
Speaker 4: here this year, and we pulled them out of their
Speaker 4: school homeschooling this year so that we could all be together.
Speaker 4: And that's been hard because they're they're missing all their
Speaker 4: buddies down south and going somewhere where you don't know anybody.
Speaker 4: So it's been a challenge for them, but it's also
Speaker 4: been kind of a growing experience for the family. We've
Speaker 4: kind of we're all together, and we've made it to
Speaker 4: where a lot of friends have been able to come
Speaker 4: up and visit and stay with us and come have
Speaker 4: a cool experience up in New Jersey, New York, and
Speaker 4: and so it's been good. It's been a good change
Speaker 4: and a good good year of growth of the family.
Speaker 4: And honestly, I feel like we've kind of as a family,
Speaker 4: we've gotten away from the rat race. Because of that,
Speaker 4: we've created our own schedule and we've kind of had
Speaker 4: a nice Yeah, we found a teacher here in Floram
Speaker 4: Park who is who specializes in in that, and so
Speaker 4: she comes to the house a few hours every day
Speaker 4: and kind of, you know, Mom's helping out, Lauren's helping out,
Speaker 4: but but she's like teacher and so that mom can
Speaker 4: still be mom and you know, not have to be
Speaker 4: both all the time.
Speaker 5: So it's been good.
Speaker 4: It's been a good challenge and it's allowed the kids
Speaker 4: to kind of have a little more freedom and we
Speaker 4: haven't been rushing around constantly getting the kids out the
Speaker 4: door to all these different things. They still have a
Speaker 4: few activities, but it's been a little bit of a
Speaker 4: recharge for our family this year, and it's been nice.
Speaker 1: Can you talk about being AFC Special Teams Player of
Speaker 1: the Week after the Giants game when you had one
Speaker 1: of the best puny performances I've ever seen, So you're
Speaker 1: talking about Juts franchise history. I only go back twenty
Speaker 1: three years here, but if you go back to nineteen sixty,
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody ever pointed better than you
Speaker 1: in that game. And why was it such an emotional
Speaker 1: moment for you following the win.
Speaker 5: Just because of what I talked about.
Speaker 4: One of my most proud about being is just being
Speaker 4: here and having kind of you know, persevered and to like,
Speaker 4: it's not just it wasn't just that performance, right, I
Speaker 4: mean we just had a pun a lot that day.
Speaker 5: I just got my number called lot.
Speaker 4: It was it just you know, I felt it from everybody,
Speaker 4: and I felt it before that game. That just magnified everything, right,
Speaker 4: But I felt the love and support from teammates where
Speaker 4: like there's only one of us on every team, right,
Speaker 4: a kicker and a punter, and so like, as a
Speaker 4: general rule, you want your teammates to be like Glad
Speaker 4: that you're their punter in that in every game.
Speaker 5: Right, That's how I look at it, Right.
Speaker 4: If I'd like to be the better player eighty percent
Speaker 4: of the games, if that makes sense, that's kind of
Speaker 4: my mark of being super valuable to the team. And
Speaker 4: I felt that almost every single game this year, where
Speaker 4: it's like, all right, we're Glad more Stead's our guy,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, And that it just kind
Speaker 4: of spilled over in that and it was emotional, and.
Speaker 5: You know, people keep asking.
Speaker 2: What are you going to retire?
Speaker 5: Like how much long do you want to do this?
Speaker 4: And all that stuff, And it's just because of my age,
Speaker 4: but it's like, I don't feel like I'm at that point.
Speaker 4: I know I'm not at that point, but at the
Speaker 4: same time, you know that statistically you're kind of close,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And so I don't know.
Speaker 4: I feel like it's kind of like a glimpse into
Speaker 4: the aging process just in life.
Speaker 5: It's just relative to football.
Speaker 4: It's like you get closer to the end and you're
Speaker 4: still able to enjoy doing the things you're doing. It's
Speaker 4: hard not to appreciate it differently, especially when you've not
Speaker 4: had it, when you've lost it at some point and
Speaker 4: you've been on the street, you haven't had a job,
Speaker 4: and to get back in there's just a different level
Speaker 4: of appreciation for.
Speaker 5: Being able to do it. And I guess that's that's
Speaker 5: why I can explain.
Speaker 1: That how is that dynamic being a punner, Because I
Speaker 1: think on Sunday against up your next opponent, which of
Speaker 1: course is the Washington Commanders, you were going to set
Speaker 1: a career high in terms of punts for a season.
Speaker 1: I think you're previous.
Speaker 5: I've already passed it.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a season. I thought it was.
Speaker 5: We're over eighty for the season. I've never done that before.
Speaker 1: So so so okay, so speak to that. I don't
Speaker 1: know if there's speak to the dynamic of Hey, offensively,
Speaker 1: we want to score points. I want to be part
Speaker 1: of a winner, but also as a performer, you like
Speaker 1: going out on the field and helping the tea.
Speaker 5: I don't think of it that way.
Speaker 4: You know, I've I've punted forty three times a few
Speaker 4: times in my career for a whole for a whole season, right,
Speaker 4: which is like half of what we've done this year.
Speaker 4: And my point in saying that is, I don't look
Speaker 4: at it like people ask, do you root to punty?
Speaker 4: You excited to like I'm like, of course, I want
Speaker 4: to score on every drive. Like you know, I would
Speaker 4: say that, I just stay ready and whenever my name
Speaker 4: is called or then you know, the team is called,
Speaker 4: I'm excited to go do that job that rep because
Speaker 4: coach has decided that's the best play for us to
Speaker 4: have the best chance to win. Right, So I'm I'm
Speaker 4: excited for the op when it comes, but like I'm
Speaker 4: pumping my fist when we get a big third down
Speaker 4: conversion and it's first down.
Speaker 5: Now we're going.
Speaker 4: So but I'm not like, you know, okay, take it.
Speaker 4: I can let my breath out now and breathe like
Speaker 4: I'm I'm not disappointed either way. I'm excited when we
Speaker 4: keep it keep it moving. But you know, when I
Speaker 4: get my name called to go do my job, I'm
Speaker 4: it's like it's the best play we have to win
Speaker 4: the game, or at least in the eyes of coach,
Speaker 4: And so I'm excited to go execute whatever they asked
Speaker 4: me to execute.
Speaker 1: So, so, why have you excelled as a directional kicker
Speaker 1: throughout your career? Because you talked before, I'm not the
Speaker 1: best to hang time. Maybe I'm not the best directional guy,
Speaker 1: but bottom line is you are one of the more
Speaker 1: proficient punters over the course of your career.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't want to like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: sometimes I get you know. The best way I can
Speaker 4: answer that is sometimes it's nice to humble yourself and
Speaker 4: your own speech in your own mind, and it's not because
Speaker 4: of a lack of confidence. My point in saying that
Speaker 4: is that if you were to put me at the
Speaker 4: NFL combine I'm not going to have the highest punt
Speaker 4: that is possibly hitting. That's the guys that come out
Speaker 4: every year. They're so talented. They can absolutely hammer a
Speaker 4: football super high and super far. If I kick the
Speaker 4: ball over fifty six fifty seven yards, I've probably kicked
Speaker 4: my coverage. Like, I'm not trying to ever do that,
Speaker 4: Whereas I know some guys they're trying to hammer it
Speaker 4: as far as they can every time, and that's what
Speaker 4: they do, right, So I'm not knocking myself. I do
Speaker 4: think in a way it's a compliment to myself that
Speaker 4: if I'm up here in averages and I'm never kicked
Speaker 4: it as far as the best guys, that tells you
Speaker 4: that my efficiency is is elite. And I do feel
Speaker 4: like if they had a metric for ball striking in
Speaker 4: this league and just hitting type of ball you want
Speaker 4: to hit consistently where you want it to go, I
Speaker 4: think I'd be the number one guy.
Speaker 5: And so.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not trying to knock myself when I
Speaker 4: say those things, but I do know that if you
Speaker 4: hit spirals that go to the location you want them
Speaker 4: to go, you really should not ever have a not
Speaker 4: have a job. You know what, I mean, so if
Speaker 4: you if you can tell your gunners and your punt
Speaker 4: team that hey, this ball is going to be in
Speaker 4: this range in this part of the field, and everybody
Speaker 4: knows that and they can all synergize with that, you
Speaker 4: should be able to control games.
Speaker 5: And well you're doing it at all this year.
Speaker 1: Well because you got forty seven points of fifty plus yards.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well we've punted a lot, you know.
Speaker 4: So but you know, I you know, it's it's you know,
Speaker 4: it's like I said, I'm it's it's not exciting to
Speaker 4: you know, pub your your punter whenever the offense is struggling.
Speaker 4: But it is cool to be on a team where,
Speaker 4: you know, field position has all the games we've won
Speaker 4: have been the defense has played really really well, and
Speaker 4: the special team has played really well and so and
Speaker 4: offense has contributed. But it's been very much a complement
Speaker 4: of football, no turnovers, play the field position game, and
Speaker 4: it's been exciting to be a part of those wins
Speaker 4: and some even some of the losses that we've have
Speaker 4: been really close in, we've we've kind of had a
Speaker 4: chance because of those field position games, and so you know,
Speaker 4: that's that's what that's what I get paid to do.
Speaker 5: So it's exciting to be a part of that.
Speaker 1: What's it like working with Greg Zerline because for my money, again,
Speaker 1: you talk about you having a fantastic year, this is
Speaker 1: probably the best kicking year in the history of this franchise.
Speaker 1: I mean, you put you two guys up against anybody
Speaker 1: in the league right now as far as the combinations concerned.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, it's all about what have you done for
Speaker 4: me lately? And it's all about your next performance. So
Speaker 4: having said that, I think we've I think we've been
Speaker 4: at the top of the I think all three specialists
Speaker 4: have performed at a super high level. We have none
Speaker 4: of us have been perfect, but we've all done I
Speaker 4: think we've all played at a very high level. You know,
Speaker 4: I think Greg's missed one extra point and a fifty
Speaker 4: something yardfield goal this year, and so he's like ninety
Speaker 4: six percent.
Speaker 1: And you guys aren't playing a dome at home games.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'll say that's another sense of sort of surprise.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: I don't want to call it pride, but just.
Speaker 1: Well, people were wondering at twenty one, right, does he.
Speaker 4: Have Yeah, Well, I've always been you know, personally I've
Speaker 4: been accused of being a dome punter, and so being
Speaker 4: able to have success outside in some tougher conditions has
Speaker 4: been you know, it feels good to be like, no,
Speaker 4: you know, I've just been a good punter that happened
Speaker 4: to play in a dome. So, you know, it definitely
Speaker 4: offers challenges different inside as supposed to outside. But there's
Speaker 4: a lot more excitement to the play because there's a
Speaker 4: little more variability and rain, snow, things like that, and
Speaker 4: so it's just a different just you just play the
Speaker 4: game a little differently. But yeah, I think all the
Speaker 4: specialists have been you know, have been pretty solid this year,
Speaker 4: and it's been fun just to work together. Our group
Speaker 4: is just we have a lot of experience. I think
Speaker 4: Henny's in his seventh year, and I think this is
Speaker 4: year twelve for Greg and this is fifteen for me.
Speaker 4: So we just kind of all been around the block
Speaker 4: a little bit and we all enjoy working together and
Speaker 4: so it's just been a nice energy just all come
Speaker 4: to work together.
Speaker 1: What would it mean to you to get a Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl nod here at thirty seven.
Speaker 5: It'd be pretty cool. It'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 4: I've been the first alternate like six or seven times
Speaker 4: in my career, and you know, it's been a hard
Speaker 4: pill to swallow a number of times when I thought
Speaker 4: I should have gone and it'd be cool. So you
Speaker 4: don't make it a goal every year, or I don't
Speaker 4: because I don't control it right now.
Speaker 5: I don't control how people vote or how coaches voter,
Speaker 5: players vote.
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, if you're providing
Speaker 4: value for your team and the team is glad that
Speaker 4: you're their guy, it's a it's a good feeling.
Speaker 5: And certainly felt that this season.
Speaker 1: Well the fans still have a little bit of time
Speaker 1: they can get out and vote.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, it's like I said, it's appreciated no matter
Speaker 4: what happens. It's it's irrelevant to how this season has
Speaker 4: been for me individually. You know, I've feeled the love
Speaker 4: from all the fans game day at the stadium, and
Speaker 4: it's just it's fun to It's it's nice to feel valued.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't care what your job is, it's
Speaker 4: nice to feel valued. So I definitely felt that.
Speaker 1: You're definitely are valued by Jet Nation and your teammates.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you about this, two thousand and nine,
Speaker 1: you come in to the league, got SMU first year,
Speaker 1: you're playing in the Super Bowl. Yeah, halftime, Peyton says,
Speaker 1: doing an onside kick. What's the thought process there for
Speaker 1: him or me? For you? Once you hear that that's
Speaker 1: the call.
Speaker 4: I panicked, I mean I was ri I was terrified. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, I'd never he said we were going to
Speaker 4: run lead, right, So that's not that they're losing.
Speaker 5: We're losing ten six.
Speaker 4: And and honestly, we've you know, to be only down
Speaker 4: ten six, I mean they kind of we were, I think,
Speaker 4: feeling pretty good about where we were at at halftime
Speaker 4: to only be down for and coach had said we
Speaker 4: were going to run it, not if just what. It
Speaker 4: was just gonna be a question of when. But I
Speaker 4: didn't believe we would actually do it. And and Peyton,
Speaker 4: Manny's on the other side.
Speaker 1: So if you don't get that ball, it's ten six,
Speaker 1: they get the lead and he's got a short field.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think part of it was just possession, right,
Speaker 4: it was less of I mean, one of the drives
Speaker 4: they had in the first their touchdown drive they had
Speaker 4: in the first half, I had punted it ball down
Speaker 4: to the four yard line and they went ninety six
Speaker 4: yard and scored a touchdowns. So I think coach felt
Speaker 4: more like, hey, it was worth the risk on the
Speaker 4: short field to just have a chance to get another possession.
Speaker 5: That was going to be the difference.
Speaker 4: And so and at the time with the rules on
Speaker 4: you know, kickoff rules are different now, but at the
Speaker 4: time you could have guys get a full on running
Speaker 4: start and so the odds of recovering a true surprise
Speaker 4: on side kick.
Speaker 5: Were close to two thirds.
Speaker 4: So people say it was super aggressive and a major gamble,
Speaker 4: but it was like, you know, if you're at the
Speaker 4: blackjack table and the dealer flops a six over, you know,
Speaker 4: if you've got a chance to double down, you double down.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what you got right, you've you do
Speaker 4: it because deal was gonna bust.
Speaker 5: And it was.
Speaker 4: It was kind of like that. Even though it was
Speaker 4: super aggressive and felt like a gamble, two out of
Speaker 4: three times you do that, at the time, the odds
Speaker 4: where you're going to get it, So it was not
Speaker 4: the odds were in our favorite to go do it.
Speaker 4: And and so he called it and I was freaked out. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean I just didn't believe we'd do it. I
Speaker 4: really didn't believe we do it. We'd said we'd run
Speaker 4: different fakes throughout the season. We never did, but it's
Speaker 4: probably because we were winning all the time. And so yeah,
Speaker 4: we just thank god the halftime's like thirty something minutes
Speaker 4: long because of the half, you know, the whole halftime
Speaker 4: show and the glitz and glamor of the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: So I had time to kind of process it and
Speaker 4: almost have like a I don't know, a therapy session
Speaker 4: with myself, you know, in the locker, and I'm you know,
Speaker 4: at the time, I used to never take my helmet off.
Speaker 4: It was a long story, but basically I got I
Speaker 4: was unprepared for a play in my last player my
Speaker 4: senior year of college. Couldn't find my helmet and I
Speaker 4: didn't think we'd punt, and they sent the punt team
Speaker 4: out and I was frantic, and I shanked the punt
Speaker 4: last That's why my college career ended. And so I
Speaker 4: always kept my helmet on and I looked like such
Speaker 4: as spas. I was just sitting like this nervous little
Speaker 4: rookie with this helmet on all halftime, just thinking about
Speaker 4: what I had to do. And I was pretty negative
Speaker 4: in my mindset about it, and I was thinking, man,
Speaker 4: if I screw this up, letting down the team, letting
Speaker 4: down our whole city of New Orleans, there's one hundred
Speaker 4: million people watching this, and.
Speaker 5: Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And so I was.
Speaker 4: Pacing around and then I kept this picture of my
Speaker 4: coach at my locker that was from college who passed
Speaker 4: away the day after got drafted, named Frank Gann Senior.
Speaker 4: He's an all time great especiallyams coordinator in the NFL.
Speaker 4: And I just looked up at his picture and he
Speaker 4: used to have this acronym ac DC, which was the
Speaker 4: more aggressive, more confident, more disciplined, and better communicators. Those
Speaker 4: teams won, and I thought, well, this is pretty aff
Speaker 4: an aggressive, and I kind of relaxed, and then I thought,
Speaker 4: you know, every time coach called us to hit this
Speaker 4: in practice, I hit it how, you know, exactly how
Speaker 4: I needed to. And then I was like, man, if
Speaker 4: we get this, we're gonna win this game. And then
Speaker 4: by the time I went out for halftime, I was confident.
Speaker 5: I was still.
Speaker 4: My nerves were it's hard to explain, they were still
Speaker 4: through the roof. And and the worst part is you
Speaker 4: can't go out and practice it. So I'm out here
Speaker 4: just hitting kickoffs as far as I can. At the back,
Speaker 4: Pat mcfee's there, punter. We had drafted as rookies together,
Speaker 4: and I'm talking to Pat saying, you know, I'm like, hey,
Speaker 4: tell you returner or not to bother even going out there.
Speaker 5: This is going to be in the stands.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to sell the kool aid to anybody I can,
Speaker 4: just to talk myself into it. And I went over
Speaker 4: the sideline and got in the huddle and John Carney,
Speaker 4: an old kicker who had kicked for us that season,
Speaker 4: was coaching us through the playoffs, and he used to
Speaker 4: always tell me ten percent when I would go out
Speaker 4: to kick this ball. And he grabbed me last person
Speaker 4: that said something to me, and I turned around to
Speaker 4: him and he said, TIMO one percent, like he knew
Speaker 4: I was just. I was just I was charged up. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he said, timo one percent. And I just went out
Speaker 4: there and honestly, I just said a little prayer and
Speaker 4: I said, Frank, I hope you're watching, and and we
Speaker 4: went out. I kind of blacked out, Oh you hit it.
Speaker 4: We got it, went down and scored and I ended
Speaker 4: up winning it was pretty cool.
Speaker 2: So cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's carried Saints win the Super Bowl along
Speaker 4: with winning the Super Bowl and being part of the
Speaker 4: history of that and and you know, that's awesome, and
Speaker 4: that's that's a forever thing. You know, We've already had
Speaker 4: a ten year reunion, There'll be a twenty year reunion,
Speaker 4: they'll be a thirty year reunion. It's a lifelong, cool
Speaker 4: brotherhood that you're part of. But for my career, it's
Speaker 4: really been super beneficial because, you know, specially being a specialist,
Speaker 4: so much a mental game, right, and the days you
Speaker 4: don't feel as good as you want to feel, you're
Speaker 4: not as confident as you want to feel, to be
Speaker 4: able to take yourself back to big moments like that
Speaker 4: when the pressure was on and you had to have it,
Speaker 4: and to remind yourself that you've got the goods to
Speaker 4: get it done and not be lying to yourself.
Speaker 5: It's you actually believe that.
Speaker 4: It's to be able to go back and think about
Speaker 4: that play and numerous other plays have had my career,
Speaker 4: whereas like the games on the line here and to
Speaker 4: be able to think back to that and be like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I've got it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: I'm going to be able to control myself.
Speaker 4: I'm going to be able to get it done and
Speaker 4: to really believe that has carried me a lot through
Speaker 4: a lot of tougher times or tough days at the office.
Speaker 1: You know, what's the thought process? People were following you
Speaker 1: on social media as far as before you board that
Speaker 1: plane on the road, you get that selfie there's TEAMO
Speaker 1: in front of the plane. How long you been doing that?
Speaker 4: I think since my rookie year. So I just kind
Speaker 4: of I don't know why I started doing it.
Speaker 1: I just did you do a week way first game year?
Speaker 4: I can't, honestly, I can't remember, but I can't remember
Speaker 4: not doing it, so I don't At some point it
Speaker 4: became a thing, and so yeah, I've just always done it,
Speaker 4: and I think, you know, fans of mine over time
Speaker 4: get used to seeing it's it's almost so dull.
Speaker 5: And so boring.
Speaker 4: I'm just you know, I'm just wearing and now I
Speaker 4: just looked like a freaking dad out there, just you know,
Speaker 4: rocking up in a polo flannel whatever shirt and khakis,
Speaker 4: and I don't know, I think a lot of people
Speaker 4: just they kind of look forward to it and see
Speaker 4: you know, kind of a regular looking dude that's getting
Speaker 4: to do a cool thing, and I don't know people
Speaker 4: appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I guess the run to the sidelines quite afflict as well, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I kind of have a little disdain from the
Speaker 6: fact that that I got put on Hard Knocks because
Speaker 6: I'd never really gotten any attention from it other than
Speaker 6: a few teammates, and you know, I not that I
Speaker 6: have a problem with it, but it was, you know,
Speaker 6: I think some people thought I was looking for attention
Speaker 6: and I've just always done that.
Speaker 4: You know, for a long time. I didn't pump much
Speaker 4: throughout the season, so it's kind of a way to
Speaker 4: kind of keep myself loose. So I haven't done as
Speaker 4: much sprinting this year because I've kind of been a
Speaker 4: little looser throughout the game. But yeah, it's kind of
Speaker 4: just part of you know. I think I said it
Speaker 4: best to Randall in the Hard Knock Steel. I said,
Speaker 4: I don't know how to I don't know what to
Speaker 4: tell you. I just know what I.
Speaker 5: Need and he was like, hey, you do you brother?
Speaker 5: You know it's working. So so yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's that I got to ask you about Rogers here.
Speaker 1: He indicated early this week that he's not going to
Speaker 1: play in twenty twenty three. Robert Sala of course said
Speaker 1: today that he's going to be activated, but he's not
Speaker 1: going to play. With that being said, you're thirty seven,
Speaker 1: have a career year. He's going to be forty coming
Speaker 1: off in Achilles. What do you think is next for
Speaker 1: Aaron in terms of his career? Obviously going to be
Speaker 1: with the Jets, and he's professed his love for this
Speaker 1: place and his teammates and the organization and things like that.
Speaker 1: How excited are you from your perspective a guy who's
Speaker 1: been in a room with him to see his next chapter.
Speaker 4: Look, I mean, that's one of the reasons I came
Speaker 4: was to be a part of that, be a part
Speaker 4: of winning, and obviously not just Aaron, but we've had
Speaker 4: like a gauntlet of injuries, especially on the offensive side
Speaker 4: of the ball this year, and you know, nothing's guaranteed
Speaker 4: in life, and you know it's uh so, I don't
Speaker 4: know what's you know, if anybody knew, you know that
Speaker 4: there you know, So you know, I'm excited for him.
Speaker 4: There's nothing better than a good comeback story. You know,
Speaker 4: there's nothing better than doing something that people tell you
Speaker 4: you can't do.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 4: You know, obviously he's he's got such a microscope on
Speaker 4: him and everything he's doing. And but you know, I've
Speaker 4: enjoyed getting to know him this season.
Speaker 5: And I'll be.
Speaker 4: Honest with you, I wasn't a huge Aaron right before
Speaker 4: getting here, just from what I've seen in the media
Speaker 4: and and uh, just falling along over his career, kind
Speaker 4: of an abrasive guy, and and you know, and I've
Speaker 4: really enjoyed getting to be teammates with him and getting
Speaker 4: to know him, and uh, seeing how he ticks, you know,
Speaker 4: it felt like a guy who loves the attention, and
Speaker 4: and just now getting to know him this year, I'd say,
Speaker 4: he really doesn't care what anybody else thinks outside of
Speaker 4: the people that he cares about, you know, his teammates
Speaker 4: or his family or people that he's close with. He's
Speaker 4: he just doesn't care and he's going to do what
Speaker 4: he thinks is the right thing. And and I respect that.
Speaker 4: So I really enjoyed getting to be teammates with him.
Speaker 4: And you know, no matter how things go in the future,
Speaker 4: I'll be pulling for him.
Speaker 1: Nothing better than a great comeback story. You're authoring your
Speaker 1: own comeback story.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we all we all have our on our own
Speaker 4: books to write, you know, and uh, it's cool when
Speaker 4: you get to cross paths with with special people and
Speaker 4: so yeah, it's I'll be I'll be pulling for him
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 1: But talking about you as far as your comeback story,
Speaker 1: it's still ongoing. Now, what's Christmas going to be? Like
Speaker 1: the Morstead House? You play Christmas Eve? Yep, so you
Speaker 1: gotta go to the hotel.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 1: You're gonna line up, suit up, hopefully get a w
Speaker 1: against the commanders and then you to go home. And
Speaker 1: what do we got planned?
Speaker 4: Well, we're going to try to find a church service
Speaker 4: Christmas Eve to get to We're obviously getting out a
Speaker 4: little bit later than would be ideal for five o'clock
Speaker 4: bank probably not a five o'clock mass, but we'll see.
Speaker 4: We my wife's kind of looking into that right now
Speaker 4: because the whole family's going to the games. We may
Speaker 4: find try to find a church, like really close to
Speaker 4: the stadium if we can.
Speaker 5: Sneak off to that.
Speaker 4: And then yeah, I mean my kids are at the
Speaker 4: age where you know, they're all living upstairs, upstairs in
Speaker 4: the house.
Speaker 5: And all the.
Speaker 4: Feet pitter pattern down the stairs for Christmas morning. Is
Speaker 4: you know, all the excitement is like legitimate, and we're
Speaker 4: in a really cool place with that. With the kids,
Speaker 4: they're all young enough and that you know they'll be
Speaker 4: up before any of us. So it's an exciting time
Speaker 4: and I certainly don't take it for granted.
Speaker 5: We're looking forward to it. I'm glad we're all together
Speaker 5: this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very cool. Congratulations and an outstanding season. You got
Speaker 1: three games remaining and you've enjoyed your experience here in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Then you come back in twenty three
Speaker 1: and obviously the life of the kicker or plunter the
Speaker 1: National Football League is always a little bit people on
Speaker 1: the move, right. It's you had that long stay in
Speaker 1: New Orleans, but would you like to be back?
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure I would.
Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, we made a commitment to
Speaker 4: come up here and really see what it was like
Speaker 4: and do it as a family, and we had a
Speaker 4: great setup in New Orleans and we still have our
Speaker 4: house down there. But well, you know, we brought everybody
Speaker 4: up here and so you know, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's I've really since COVID happened, really it's
Speaker 4: been COVID and then getting released and having to jump
Speaker 4: around a little bit to get back in. We've gotten
Speaker 4: to a point where we just enjoyed such stability for
Speaker 4: so long, and we've grown a lot in the last
Speaker 4: three years. Our family has and me my wife, and
Speaker 4: you learn to deal with things as they come, and
Speaker 4: you stop worrying about or trying to plan too far.
Speaker 2: Out, you know.
Speaker 4: And uh, that's been a big learning for me, or
Speaker 4: it's been a challenge for me because I am kind
Speaker 4: of you know, I'm a planner. I like to have
Speaker 4: things laid out, and we just kind of enjoyed life
Speaker 4: as it's come, the experiences as they come, and we've
Speaker 4: been present and and I think that's one of the
Speaker 4: reasons I'm playing so well.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm just enjoying it. And uh, you know,
Speaker 5: you know, you get the questions about the future and
Speaker 5: all I knows.
Speaker 4: I'm enjoying my time right now, and you know, I'm
Speaker 4: focused on playing well this week and that's all I
Speaker 4: can do, and we'll see how things turn out.
Speaker 1: Yes, staying in the president and that's the kids are
Speaker 1: going to have a lot of presents.
Speaker 5: And a few more than more than they probably should,
Speaker 5: and Thomas.
Speaker 1: Moore said, you've had a hell of a year. Fans.
Speaker 1: You can get out and vote for the Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: right now. A number of Jets deserving, including this man, Timo,
Speaker 1: thanks a lot
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me appreciate it.