WEBVTT - How the Jets Can Bounce Back & a Conversation with Punter Thomas Morstead (12/20) 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:07.040 Official podcast was presented by win bet Betty his team 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:10.280 sport but together at went Bett, Eric Allen here at 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:15.480 one Jets Drive, joined by my partner Matt Becker Bart Scott. 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:16.560 How long has it been? Now? 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:19.880 Spent a long time? Fourteen years? I would say, Wow. 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:21.840 We've been working there. I've been doing this for fourteen years. 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:25.080 Yes, he signed with the jetson all nine correct, I. 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.480 Know, yeah, and then I retire. So every year after 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:28.560 I retire, I've been doing this. 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:31.440 I guess we had a break in there. I don't 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:34.080 even know what happened after you retire. I remember that disappeared. 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.559 I went to CBS right, and then I remember us 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:39.320 being how long ago have we when we was at 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:43.040 the hotel with Robbie Robbie Anderson, we had to apologize 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:43.559 to America. 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:47.000 I'm bringing that up all the time. It's Chosen Anderson now. 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:50.600 I know Chosen. Yeah, they brought Chosen back last week. 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:52.920 I was like, oh he's still around. Oh he lined 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.760 up passed the ball. He's like, I got you, Tyreek Hill. 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.040 You line up with one with chats over me, not 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:03.960 Tyrek Hill, Darius Tony. He lined up his whole foot 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:05.600 was he was past the defender. 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:09.720 He he did wave at the official like a couple 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:10.480 of yards before. 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.000 But when you do that, you have to look and 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.800 wait for the ficial response. Just look look straight the 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.040 fisher like, bro, you are past. 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:23.840 The d end, Like, well, you gotta shed some light 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.520 on that interview there. We used to we used to 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.479 do inside the jets across the street and there were 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.959 TVs up there and we were actually facing the TV. 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:35.720 And it was brought to uh, it was brought up 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:39.160 by ESPN Radio and we used to do it and 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.440 like at some point we just had to apologize to 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:42.480 the people about. 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.800 Like you were apologizing miss Robbie. Is is kind of he's 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:47.440 kind of he was. He was focused on a couple 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:48.840 of other things while we're doing the interview. 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.040 Yeah, he was just faced out man, like only two 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.040 guys I've ever had to do that with. Yeah, yo, 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.360 I do that with Jerry Judy too. Like we ended, 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.400 we ended the We ended me and my partner. We 0:01:58.520 --> 0:01:58.960 ended the. 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:00.960 Interview was ESPN Radio. 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:05.920 Yes, he was like, bro, like never, we'll talk to you, like, thanks, 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.120 thanks for your time. Though he was he was promoting 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:09.799 the product. He knew nothing about. 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:13.200 Oh was this a Super Bowl or was Judy just 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:13.760 I don't know. 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:17.320 It was so bad that the PR and radio stages 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:20.440 from Denver got hold of an interview and start calling us, like, man, 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:24.000 this dude's an idiot and he he he was like, 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:25.720 I don't know what he was like if this dude 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:27.919 was on something like this dude tripping listen. 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:29.880 Robbie's a good guy. He was just focused on a 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:30.880 couple of other things. 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.480 It was a crazy interview. It was like, but you 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.280 never know, some guys are don't don't speak a lot, right, 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.280 So he was only giving like one word ass like bro, 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:40.760 you know this is entertainment, right. 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.440 So we came out of the break and you're still 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:45.720 talking about it after we thanked him for coming. 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:48.160 On, Like bro, that was the worst, all right. 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:53.040 So the big news here this week was Aaron Rodgers 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:56.880 going on Pat McAfee's show on Tuesday and his regular 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:57.919 weekly appearance. 0:02:58.240 --> 0:02:59.720 I have money to pay Aaron Rodgers so he could 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:01.880 be my weekly Do you. 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:03.359 Think we should work on that for next year in 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:04.119 twenty twenty four. 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:05.320 There's a couple of things. 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.200 It's gonna cost you seven digits, So there's a couple 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:08.120 of things to get to here. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.680 We ain't got seven digits to spare like that, No surprise, right, 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:12.680 And we got seven digits like that, then we need 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.320 to we need to up my salary and we can 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:20.440 we can do without it, no sound, no surprise right 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:23.760 when you when you think about the statement that was 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:27.480 made before the game saying that if it was a 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.120 one point zero zero zero one point chance, it was 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:32.639 still a chance he would play. But at this point 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:36.520 it's no reward at all, all risk because if he 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:40.520 hurts something and you know, looking at you know how Sam, 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.720 you know got hurt last week, you know, getting hit, 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.760 you know, took a vicious hit, it's no need for 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:50.280 Aaron Rodgers to take Yeah, zat Zach, it's no need 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.920 for Aaron to take that type of punishment. So let's 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.320 just live to fight another day. The good news that 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.320 came out that is he believes he wants to play 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:00.960 a couple of years, which I believe that's what he 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.840 wanted to do anyway, was to play multiple years this 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:08.600 year and next year. And because he only played four snaps, 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:11.880 he doesn't consider this a year or you know, maybe 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.280 if he had played eight games, got hurt, then maybe 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.320 he'll consider it would have considered it a year and 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.240 say I want to play one more year. So now 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:22.159 this means that the Jets has a solid commitment from him, right, 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:25.480 you know. And the solid commitment, so I don't expect 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:27.359 him to have to go into a hole or go 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.479 into darkness retreat or anything like that. He'll do what 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:31.800 he does to get his mind right for next year. 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:33.800 But the fact that we know that we can have 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.960 Aaron Rodgers for two years changes the way you go 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.400 about free agency, changes about the way that you go 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:45.080 about the draft. So you know, I think that that 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:49.760 statement alone multiple years means to me that you know, 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:53.120 you have to build around Aaron Rodgers because you may 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:57.960 have an opportunity to win a Super Bowl. If you 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:59.680 win it the first year, you have an opportunity to 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.560 run it much really similar to what Tom Brady did 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:02.920 in Town. 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:08.159 Rogers has always played this game at such an elite level. 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:13.159 He dealt with injuries. That last year in Green Bay 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:18.000 before being traded over here. He tears the chilles. 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.400 But that was broken hands, So that's you're. 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:21.520 Still with the thumb right now. 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.599 I think other Nixon, I really don't think about that 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:26.920 as like a aging injury. 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:30.760 Yeah, So That's what my question is. So he's forty, 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:36.560 he'll turn forty one next season, But you have confidence 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:39.800 after watching guys like Brady late in their career that. 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:43.200 Hey, Lebron, Lebron James. You have to put all great athletes. 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.640 I think in the same category. Lebron James's acts and 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:50.240 his body to do way more than what Aaron Rodgers is, right, 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.360 because you're talking about basketball, you're playing offense and defense, 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:55.719 and you're keeping up so like you're going by people, 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.520 but then now you got to check somebody as well. 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.320 You know, Aaron Rodgers is just playing off and so 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.520 I have full confidence that he can play at high level. 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.080 And I always have this conversation with people when they 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.480 talk about, well, he's forty forty one, I always say, 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:11.080 Aaron Rodgers, whatever his ages, take off four years and 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.599 that's what his real age is. Because he was a backup, 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:15.320 he didn't get a lot of wear and tear. He 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:17.360 didn't get like a lot of He hasn't had a 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.039 lot of injuries. He hasn't torn his acl and all that. 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.479 So this is his first major injury. So I don't 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:27.680 look at him as a typical you know, forty ye oh, quarterback, 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.240 you know, and I kind of compare it to like 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:33.640 guys like Brandon Jacobs and big guys who were young 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.200 but wore down hard because the type of position that 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.320 they play in the style in which they played. Right. 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:44.200 We talk about Yeah, we talked about Earl Campbell right 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:47.039 six years Right, we talk about some of the great 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:49.760 like runners like Eddie George. They didn't play late into 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.080 their career. I mean, Frank Gore played forever. He was 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.400 an anomaly. I mean the fact that he was able 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.200 to play at a high level and still absorb that 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.360 type of position. But quarterbacks, especially now where where the 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:02.920 game is so less physical in the quarterback has so 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:08.200 much protection and probably that tackle that he got, not 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:11.480 saying that it was illegal, but they're going to take 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:15.240 that weight drop tackle down away as well, so you 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:18.600 don't worry about those type of tackles going forward. 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.600 So here we are three games remaining, Jets eliminated from 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:28.440 postseason contention. It was a huge and probability to begin 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.120 with as far as entering last weekend, but they lose 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.840 to the Dolphins. What I think people at home struggle 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:39.200 with is how would all this look different with Rogers 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:44.400 Because we know that he is an unbelievable player at 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:48.320 the most important position in all of sports. So it's hard, 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.160 I think when people are taking it in and they 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:53.960 see the Jets offensive struggles for such a long time 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:57.360 and say, well, how different does this look if Rogers 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:57.720 is there? 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:02.520 Well, when you talk about war in baseball, that's what 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:06.920 I'm talking about, ye wins over replacement or whatever, not 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:08.880 the traditional word war. 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.000 Of course, you. 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.680 Would like to think that Aaron Rodgers is a plus 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:19.040 two plus three. Well, if the Jets were plus two 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:23.000 or plus three, where would they be. They would be 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:26.000 in the thick of it. There would be there'll be eight, 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:30.480 eight wins, maybe the seventh seed even. 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:35.640 War nine, seven and six. Right if you flip it, 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:37.080 three three wins. 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:38.560 Yeah, three wins, that's what I'm saying. So, like you, 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.040 you would think that they would be writing the thick 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:43.439 of it in a wide open AFC where anybody gets 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.360 hot and styles make fights would be able to win, 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.000 you know what I mean. Maybe the run game would 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:52.640 be a lot better because of non loaded boxes, because 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.719 you know, if you give Aaron Rodgers off coverage, he's 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:57.160 just gonna raise up and throw it to it and 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.840 make that play. A run play and not even tell 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.199 tell this offense that he's doing that. He just has 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.880 his cold word is one word with his receiver. A 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:08.040 guy playing off in cover three ten yards off Boom 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.400 instead of running the ball there you go tackle my 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.720 guy in space. Giving guys opportunities like Garrett, giving guys 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:17.280 like opportunities like you know, Gibson, given guys opportunities like 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:20.160 Lizard just to raise up. And those are just the 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:24.080 things that his football acumen gives you advantage of. You like, 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:27.680 he makes the game easier because because he's doing the thinking, 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:31.120 you know, for for the team, right he's thinking at 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.880 such a high level, Jedi level, that he's able to 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:35.800 think the game and you know a lot of times 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:40.200 that the game is more mental than it is physical 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.120 at times, and he'll, you know, he'll always put you 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.480 at the right position, the right play. Not saying it 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.560 is going to be perfect, but it's an added advantage 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:49.680 when you have players that can think the game the 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:50.679 way that Aaron Rodgers can. 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:53.640 We know the Jets have multiple offensive needs. We're not 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:57.280 going to talk about the offseason at this point. Well, 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:02.120 just with the Rogers conversation, talk about the defense. Does 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.320 your mind go back as somebody who played the game 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:08.680 and also who's commenting about the game every day and say, 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:12.400 you know, I wonder how this would have played out 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:17.040 in twenty twenty three if Rogers was healthy, because it 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:22.439 sure feels like the AFC has a open feeling that 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:25.319 we haven't had quite some time. I mean, I know, 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.240 Kansas City's defending champions and Baltimore is very good. 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:31.880 But everybody's beatable right on any given Sunday. And if 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:33.920 you've got a great game plan and you have you know, 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:38.200 efficient productivity and everybody plays well, any team could be 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:42.400 in any team in the AFC. And you imagine, like 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:44.320 what that would have looked like with a healthy Rogers 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.800 and a healthy avt Ye. You know, because Abt, I believe, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:52.600 is probably the most valuable player on the offensive line 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.160 because of his ability to get on the edges and 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:56.840 be able to do things. And you look at how 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:00.800 Tipman has got better. Just imagine pulling the center and 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:04.079 the backside tackle. What that would look like, you know 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.320 what I mean, being able to get extra bodies to 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:07.120 the open side. 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:10.199 You like avt more long term tackle, even though he 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:10.760 can do both. 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.600 No, no, I think listen it depends on what you're 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:15.760 able to fill the team with. I think at some 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:17.960 point we're going to have to decide what he is 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.320 and what he's going to stay at, and that's something 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:24.000 he has to decide. But I'm sure right tackles get 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.719 paid more than guards. I mean, Nelson, Quentin. Nelson did 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:30.400 a great job in raising the price for guys like 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:34.120 that and Zach Martin this off season, so I think 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.400 maybe that closed the gap. But I just need Avt 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.400 to be healthy. I mean that that was a draft 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.040 pick that you hit on. The talent isn't the issue. 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.679 The versatility is an issue, but now the durability is 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.480 an issue, and you don't know how many. I don't 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.480 worry about the first injury, the tricep or the by set, 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.320 whatever it was. I don't worry about those because those 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.280 don't affect you as a player as far as I 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.960 move before. But now you talk about the what was 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:04.080 it Achilles? You talk about Achilles. That's that's a different thing, right, 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.640 and we have to figure out, you know, as the Jets, 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:11.400 it's what three Achilles this year? Our woods? 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:12.360 Yes? 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:17.400 Abt, Aaron, Yes, I think you really have to figure 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:18.640 out how to. 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.640 It feels like injuries are off across the Yeah. 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:28.319 But but but then particular injuries achilles has been you know, JK. Dobbins. 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.400 A lot of guys, you know Phillips, right, it's a 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.480 lot of guys with that. So a lot of times 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.920 you have to start looking at Okay, what kind of 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:38.920 shoes are these guys wearing? What kind of prehab can 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:42.480 we do to strengthen and elanate the tendons so it's 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.920 not so tight so it doesn't pop? Right? Most of 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:48.120 these guys have tight calves, which means tight hamstrings. How 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:49.960 do we loosen that up? How do we you know, 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:53.600 make sure that we stretch those and we warm them 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:57.840 up properly before activity every day instead of just you know, 0:12:57.920 --> 0:12:59.480 doing it when you feel like it. You know what 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:01.520 I mean? I used too, you know, it was a 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.600 fear that because I have flat feet. That later in 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:08.040 my career, they talk about how African Americans over thirty, 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.360 how they have a higher tendency because we have high 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.560 calves and this is a little bit and you know 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:16.240 other stuff. High calves which means that we flat feet, 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.960 high calves, you know, a lot of tension on achilles. 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.040 They were concerned so I made sure every day before 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:24.560 I did anything, I did extensive warm up on the 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:29.160 slant board to warm and stretch my calves and my achilles. Yes, 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.400 because I already have plant fasciitis. Do you ever? 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:38.600 Yeah, I know, And that's what an awful injury isn't that. Yeah, 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:42.320 let's go back to Rogers real quick. How want you 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.319 like his mindset? When you just hear the guy talk, 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:48.880 the hear like other dudes, like the way he phrases 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:50.160 things and his approaches. 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:52.840 I mean, he's a he's a forward thinker, right, Like, 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:56.480 he's a guy that's opened to everything, and an open 0:13:56.520 --> 0:14:00.360 minded person is a great person to listen to and 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:04.400 be around because he doesn't shun ideas. He listens and 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:09.720 internalizes his ideas. And you know, his attack to rehab 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.640 and stuff like that was another example of his belief 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.200 system as just as a person a right, So, I 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.320 think a lot can be learned from a guy like that. 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:22.840 It's a mindset. Yeah, like the Black Mamba, Yeah, like 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.600 Kobe a little bit. So we call him White Mamba. 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:31.160 Oh yeah, I wonder if he liked that, Nicknam, Yeah, 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.760 so we gotta get him in the studio though, you're 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:35.080 saying seven digits. 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.040 Yeah, man, well look, he ain't gonna charge you seven. 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.880 It's his family. It's different. He might just do this 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.640 off the strength off the love, I mean, because he's 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.720 not going to play. So this is the greatest platform 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.200 that he can do to speak to his peoples, not 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.520 the McAfee show. To speak to your people directly. This 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.240 is jets put out information, you know what I mean. 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.960 So you talk to your people. You do this show. 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.680 You sit in this seat. Yeah, you talk to E, 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:02.800 A and B. Ski you take you can. 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:06.240 Follow what you did your map back in old nine. 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:11.680 Join it yet content as a player, and then there 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:13.240 was a little break in action when you went to 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.960 CBS stuff like that. All right, so three games remaining. 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.280 What do you want to see? What do you want 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:24.200 to see? Because if you're a fan, you're already you're 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:29.000 so upset, disappointed that you're in the situation. But there's 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:33.880 that tug pushing Paul right that, Hey, I want a 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.240 good draft pick, but also you want your team to 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.560 play well. You want to see individuals succeed. What do 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:40.280 you want to see? 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:41.680 I want to see that. I want to see all 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:45.280 the young players get an opportunity. I would love to see, like, listen, 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:49.000 I know Breech probably has goals that he wants, but 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.400 I want to see you know, you know, we know 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:54.560 that Dalvin Cook probably won't be here, so I want 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:56.000 to see I want to see a guy like is 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:59.960 he Abana Kana get an opportunity to get meaningful rep 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:02.760 I want to put him in tough spots. I want 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:06.160 to see him on third down pick up blitzes because 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.160 next year you're going to expect him to do that, 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:10.200 So I'd rather him get some type of on the 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.000 job training before the season start. I want to see 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.920 Rutgers start. I want to see him start and see Okay, 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:19.800 you know who knows what the future of UZAMA is, 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.480 So I want to see that guy, you know, go 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:25.720 out and start. You know, cochlan comes in and maybe 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:27.680 you know, spells him and see if he can handle 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:31.080 the load, the game plan, the pressure, the football action 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:33.720 I'm trying to develop now, right, you know, I'm looking 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:35.640 at Will McDonald like. I want to see him start. 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.600 I want to see him in pressure situation. I want 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.000 to see him on the strong side, leaning against the run. 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:42.760 I want to see him anchor. I want to see 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:44.680 him take on double teams. I want to see him, 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.760 you know, be disciplined, getting up the quarterback depth, spending underneath. 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:49.760 I want to see that. I want to see young 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:53.000 guys put in tough situations to see how they respond 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:53.840 on the lights turn on. 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.640 I like that. What do you make of carryover? There's 0:16:57.680 --> 0:16:59.000 no carryover, right. 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:01.800 This is more well, it's momentum. 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:06.960 You can yeah, but you gained momentum as an individual. 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.639 I'm saying like team wise, like, if you finish strong, 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:11.200 can you take that into the offseason. 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.200 Yeah. A lot of teams we talk about all the time, 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:16.280 teams that finished seven and nine back in the day, 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:18.600 seven and nine, and then the next year they come 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.200 back and they win the division. Like we've always talked 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.360 about that team's goal. It's always a team that takes 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.840 that jump from six and ten and next year they're 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:29.120 a number one seed. That's always been the case, right, right, 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:32.560 because it's it's not a far distance from six and 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:36.320 ten to you know, you know, thirteen and five. You 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.800 know what I mean. It's like what it is is 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:41.720 learning how to finish right, and you start realizing the 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:45.040 differences and the small details that make the difference between 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.159 winning and losing. And how many of those games if 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:48.920 you would did things right way, if you would have 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:53.640 been disciplined, if you wouldn't have pivotal bad mistakes, where 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:55.120 you would have been Each. 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.639 Game is his own season. I know that, But why 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.679 such a discrepancy when you see the second half against 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.800 Houston and then you see what happened for sixty minutes 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:04.480 against Miami. 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:10.280 Well, in my in my opinion, Robert Sala going into 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.080 this game everything that Demico Ryan are a lot of 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:15.480 stuff that themic O Ryan knows he learned from him. Yeah, 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:19.360 so you understand and know those principles, so you attack him. 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:23.640 And on the flip side, Mike McDaniels knows a lot 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:27.159 about conceptually what this defense does, what gives him problems, 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:30.600 And he knows because he's practiced against him and practice 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:32.879 over and over again. But he has the type of 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:36.800 weapons that can really cause trouble for schematically what they do. 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:42.280 I mean, he knew that that Robert Sala doesn't flip corners, 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.280 So you gave him an idea of a matchup that 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:47.840 he knew he could take advantage of and going over 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:49.960 and saying, hey, I can take the best player that 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.440 we have, not our best player when Tyreek Hill is here, 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:55.159 but our best player and get him against you know, 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:58.400 not saying DJ Red isn't a great player, but they 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:02.600 like the matchup. Yes, a length is what gives waddle issues. 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:07.040 Not a guy that's that's short and quick and powerful. 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:11.560 Maybe some some some some receivers don't like length and speed, right, 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.600 because that length allows guys to recover and you can't 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:16.159 get on top of them because they can keep you 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:19.520 at harm's length. So then he can run two right, 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:24.119 So and so understanding that right, you know, maybe that 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:30.360 knowledge from going against former teams, uh teammate, which that's 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:33.840 what Salam mcdaiams was, you know, hurt. It helped them 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:35.640 one week and hurt them the following week. 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:39.560 What do you think the response is gonna be here? 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:43.879 Jets are five and nine, we're playing at home. This 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.919 crowd is gonna be like, hey, you guys better do 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:49.719 something early. This is a Washington this Christmas eve bro, 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.199 this is a it's a Washington team at four and 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:56.040 ten bart they won their first two games, so talk 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:58.240